Kuusou Ressha

I think it sounds fine. It's following the song and I've re-listened with hs off to make sure.

#3663125
2 same issues 2 different answers.

I resolved it before looking at this. I'll give kudosu

fixed

I can hear multiple sounds for the streams there

mute hitsounds and listen closely and you will understand

00:14:787 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - same here

03:56:272 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - here too

its a contrast issue, here there is indeed smth every 1/4 but mapping as stream is a bit overkill since not every 1/4 beat is important. 00:16:844 is where all the 1/4 kicks occur and thus streams are appropriate. Doesnt make sense if you mapped both sections with the same rhythm density due to the different intensities

dont listen them, all good

I think it's fine

Can I reopen this?

This overmapping would be your style, but I think sound is too weak to map with stream things. Additionally its expression is too similar with 00:16:844 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - which have much stronger drum sounds.

I highly recommend replacing them into reverse slider thing or smaller spacing for expressing lower intensity.

I'll nerf the spacing for contrast of these intro streams before the more pronounced 1/4 kicks. do you think that I should also nerf the spacing for 03:54:215 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - 03:56:272 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - as well? Or would those be fine as they are due to the higher pitch of the section carrying some of intensity of the previous section to justify the spacing?

I don't nc 00:14:101 (18) - as I think it would look weird for there to be 2 nc back to back with 00:14:444 (1) - so I follow the same pattern here and don't nc these 2 kicksliders as it is too close to 00:16:501 (1) - in time

that's called mapper's intention, you literally said "the same sliders" and "same sounds". It's not really the fault of the mapper if the song repeats itself over a prolonged period of time.

I want to keep the straight sliders and red anchor sliders. I do try to add a bit of variation by ctrl+g on the longer red anchor sliders such as with 00:21:643 (2) - and 00:24:386 (2) -

just a deviation from the repetitive rhythm choice so the player will notice it as a sort of signal that it's the end of a section and transition into another one

nerfed 00:41:358 (4,5,6) - and buffed 00:42:215 (2,3,4,5) -

I like to minimize the use of circles for this part as it is really chill

this is low spacing chill part so I think it is fine to keep it stacked

I don't really like having it up there as I want it to follow the flow and kinda face downwards like 00:52:501 (3) - so I'll just make 00:53:701 (2) - positioned to be blanket by 00:54:215 (1) -

If you're talking about the spacing between 00:58:501 (4,5) - , then I believe it is fine because the vocals are just the slightest bit more intense and higher than 00:56:443 (2,3) -

01:01:415 (5,6) - in addiction this stack has more sense than 00:59:015 (1,2)

agree
00:59:015 (1,2) - not stacking them would be better imo to emphasize both vocals properly. It works better here 00:56:272 (1,2) - because it's only one vocal

moved 00:59:186 (2) - this placement kind of goes against my rules of avoiding overlapping stuff but it fits alright into this section with more loose placement

the big pause in there is important imo. just preference thing

buffed #3661766/10090169

01:16:672 (3,1) - for example it looks good

02:00:558 (3,1) - same issue

I do this to have some variation in the structure for future objects but it does have scuffed spacing. I'll try to figure something out

buffed them all a bit #3661766/10090169

I'm pretty sure this guy stacked them to represent the vocals

represent vocals and it transitions into the kicksliders

found it a bit odd while playing. weird transition to vocal rhythm cause u are still following drum at 01:15:301 then you kick slider 01:15:472 even tho no vocal here. then you switch back to drum for 01:15:815 (1) -

01:15:301 (7,8,1) - a 01:15:643 (2) - su
and then 01:15:815 (1,2,3,4,1) - is just trying to make it follow drum so it plays similarly to other sections

I believe that it plays fine and changing to the drums for the last 5 notes is justified to make variation in rhythm to give more emphasis on vocals immediately after it

it okey, just a progression

the presence of vocals in that part dictates the spacing so I have it greater there

???

true it is kinda repetitive with the slidershapes, but I try to make object placement different and reuse some of the structure with how objects interact with each other

fixed

and the rest of them

how do you find it "weird", what's the actual problem?

It's consistent throughout this section and after the first stack I think a player sightreading can figure it out and not find it that weird. imo this represents the drums and vocals pretty well with the pause in cursor movement

added a little spacing

its fine as it is but i would recommend not fully spacing it since similar bursts in elsewhere are normal like 01:27:129 (1) - 01:10:672 (1) - 00:43:243 (1) -

the sounds you are trying to compare it to, those sounds are very different. the increased spacing is highlighting the last note like at 01:37:415 (1,2,3,4,1) - and 01:48:043 (1,2,3,4,1) - as the drums end on a sort of high note that I have to put emphasis on. I do it with a 6 note slider to stream at 1x spacing following the sv and just delete one note before the end of the stream to give that emphasis while not affecting the gameplay too much. I think this is appropriate and doesn't really need to be changed

#3656717/9816911

I like to keep these curved and red anchor slider shapes but I will try my best to have variation with the placement of them

added double, did soemthing similar to the example but with curved slider and adjusted surrounding objects to make it feel more comfortable and consistent with similar sounds in the rest of the kiai

02:07:758 (2,3,4) - here too

addressed with #3657504/10426609

trying to capture both the vocals and drums here. I'll change the rhythm

at 02:00:558 (3,1) - , the long curved slider comes off from the sliderend of the red anchors slider while 01:49:586 (3,1) - has the curved slider blanketing the sliderhead of the red anchor slider

made it clickable sound. I tried it with different slidershapes and I don't usually scale down the 2 red anchors slider to be anything but 1/1 but for this one case I will as other slidershapes just do not play well with the surrounding objects and clash too much with the consistent slidershapes that I use

02:55:929 (1) -

fixed

I tried it with a slidershape like 00:51:986 (2) - but making jumps after it where the first note will be blanketed by the slider does not look or play well with future objects. the long curved slider is sufficient

ok

I feel like I hear a lot of emphasis in the music starting on 02:19:243 (1) - and it starts building up to 02:21:301 (1) - from that point and is different to the lower spacing 1/2 patterns

revised the rhythm

adding kickslider wouldn't really follow the song as there is a clear pause at 02:25:501. I feel like the current spacing should be sufficient as it's the same as the previous stream just without kickslider

added kickslider

made kickslider #3657487/10095412

this map doesn't have any short stream with gradual acceleration in spacing. it has 02:18:558 (1,2,3,4,1) - this little decelerating stream but that's it. I don't want too much break in consistency

I can increase to get half beat approach circle spacing at most while keeping the overlap with the previous slider like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/18533291/adfb but it doesn't do much. I've also tried changing the triplet to come out more from the top or right side but it makes the overlap horrendous between 02:30:043 (1,1) -

#3661765/10248634

Adjusted surrounding objects and changed the shape of the triplet to make it not look like it's a 1/4 pattern anymore. Also made the spacing a little less different between 02:30:043 (1,2) - and 02:30:729 (1,2) - but can still justify the difference with the increasing intensity

to match the increasing intensity and indicate to the player that there will be a more spaced 1/4 pattern than the previous objects

added snare sound to replace the default normal hitclap

buffed them

objects interaction is different. 01:49:586 (3,1) - has sliderhead blanketed by long curved slider while 02:55:243 (2,3,1) - has the long curved slider placed according to the approach circle of 02:55:243 (2) -

03:20:101 (5) - 03:20:272 (1) - same

oh bruh

03:21:986 (6) - 03:22:158 (1) -

I'll just get rid of the nc cause I don't nc 01:26:443 (4) - 01:59:358 (4) - 02:10:329 (4) - because it feels like it would make too many nc too close to eachother and the next slider or streams are always nc already. the only time I would do it is with 01:15:472 (1) - where it is a stream going into it

the way the objects interact is different, the slider shapes are just the same.

03:53:872 (1) - has the long curved slider's sliderend being blanketed by the red anchors slider while 01:49:586 (3,1) - has the red anchors slider's head blanketed by the long curved slider

what do you suggest then? Also, in the ranked version the slider is even longer, this is a subjective mod.

really big emphasis on that sound with this long slider

may u make this 11/4 slider pls? will make more sense :3

it's fine as it is. I think ending this long slider on a sound makes sense rather than ending it on nothing

I did make that a triplet because it plays better with the object placement but I can also justify it by saying it is one long vocal unlike how the 5 note bursts I use often have 2 syllables or different pitches so this pause in cursor movement can contribute to putting more emphasis on 03:22:329 (1) -

the sound is distinct enough to justify doing a long accelerating stream like I did

slider to stream at 1.5x being weird

fixed

wtf two months later lol

following the same sound as the intro with 00:12:387 (1) - 00:14:444 (1) -

03:49:758 (1) - to 03:53:872 (1) - also follows the guitar like in the intro before transitioning into the streams