Liar Mask (TV Size)

(you should dq right away if there is an unrankable and since discussion on the post is going nowhere with these comments i decided to do it now)

Fixed

but the drum structure does change and so do the highlights of the guitar, most notable in 01:24:435 - , the pattern goes on and persists for 3 measures which was why i entertained the idea of this being correct, please elaborate how this is objectively wrong as a viewpoint

like i know how syncopation works but in this case the drums and the guitar line up, usually you'd have something hit on the red tick and then continue with the main metronome on whites right after

this is not the case here, am i missing something?

like just saying it's objectively incorrect is cool and all, but please help me understand the rationale here

the drum pattern changes to reflect double bpm which is a common thing that some songs do, the snares start to land on red ticks and the bass in the song continues to happen on every white tick, then about the guitar, the emphasis in melody lands on 01:21:769 - 01:22:269 - 01:22:602 - apart from the first one all others line up with the normal metronome which just means that 1st one is a syncopation which is also very common in songs and doesnt need additional timing

I can say that there are only snare sounds on 01:21:769 01:22:103 01:22:436 etc ticks, but not drums. If they were drums then I would say the map needs a new redline here 01:21:769.

I think that snares shouldn't be the the ones to rely on while adding a redline. Strong drum should be on big white tick and it should start the counting, not the snare. For example 00:54:936 is a drum, and the whole part alternates its position on strong beats, either its on big white tick, or on red tick before 00:56:103. But anyway the counting starts from the drum

u can also tap to the song in the timing screen and when this section hits you dont feel the need to readjust or anything because apart from syncopated guitars like 01:21:769 - nothing else shifts from the normal metronome

Interestingly, the song structure is not exactly 4/4. I don't see a problem with some metronome resets to better fit the song while playing on nightcore.

@Oko Syncopations can happen either before or after main beat as far as im understanding, so in this case it
does main beat first and syncopated after on red.
Can't fully say if it's correct or not to use on osu, cuz it fuck ups menu pulsing and NC mod as well and as i don't exactly remember seeing similar cases to compare, but it is "supposed" to be correct reason to avoid more resets just from musical point. Drum rhythm shldn't be the key point here as either can be valid.

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so what to do?

keep it without redlines, bcus its just double time composition

and it isn't like the song doesnt give any up-beat feeling before either, in the chorus some hihats land on up-beats (redticks)

I hope we figured everything out in this mod. Closed.

i have no idea why every ranked mapset ignored that O_O

fixed

the timing without the extra redlines you suggested would've been correct, now the timing is offset by half a beat for this section

current is incorrect now, just remove both lines

nexus is right those are just syncopated notes not downbeats

adding redline for downbeat reset there is just wrong

really makes u think why the other ranked maps ignored this

nexus is right but also metronome reset on 00:54:936 - for nightcore beats lining up in the kiai would be epic and valid

having guitar/snares landing on white ticks feels more natural so I agree with defreeyay

i agree -- having the reset to shift the downbeat feels fine and it's the end of the song anyways. i don't think it hurts to keep (it kinda feels consistent to match up to 01:18:936 - this section too)

shifting the downbeat seems accurate to how the listeners would feel the downbeat when listening, definitely keep the current timing

the song is composed there to give double bpm feeling, doesnt mean the downbeats changed

and if u listen to how the drums repeat themselves it would make more sense to not add any redlines

redlines is gone... fixed

video offset should be -20ms

мерси боку, добавил видос

чел ты гений

forgot to mention, the most annoying thing in this current audio its some extraneous sound at beggining, this is the main reason why you should change

этот звук именно в опенинге был, а так да, это аудио лучше. пофиксил

also tag xen separately

fixed

should anime size be standardized into (TV Size)? sorry if im incorrect but cuz this was in an anime

Nope, because author already have a name for short version (anime size) of this song.

your reasoning is confidently incorrect. it should be (TV Size) as per standardization

If a song is used in a television program, web series, or direct-to-video series, such as an opening/ending/insert song, use a (TV Size) marker at the end of the current title. If there is an existing TV size marker in the title, replace it with (TV Size).

I didn't comment on the title as it was correct

sry, my bad. fixed

Resolved

artist: 真山りか
romanised artist: Rika Mayama

you forgot about japanese artist

Resolved

this list is not exhaustive, might apply up until 00:25:604 -

like ur insane guy gets it

xenon doesnt

If I understand correctly, it's done

changed