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Section 1: 00:01:539 (1) - 00:07:016 (3) -
Section 2: 00:07:254 (1) - 00:11:301 (5) -

I feel like the flow of section 2 is too tame when you compare it to parts like 00:01:539 (1,2) - 00:02:968 (1,2) - etc. in section 1 which forces the player to snap to each point because of the timing. If anything, section 2's flow should equally be as snappy if not more because the music increases in intensity

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this can be fixed by flipping sliders/ctrl+ging them so even though that there's a pause in the music, it still forces the player to have some kinda mouse movement

parts like 00:07:611 (2) - 00:09:039 (2) - 00:10:468 (2) -

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example could just be to make section 2 a more dense version of section 1 essentially

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hi spork

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fixed ig?

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00:02:611 (2) - I feel like you shouldn't skip the beat in the middle, the drum is way more predominant than 00:02:016 -. Basically do the same as 00:03:325 (3) - 00:04:040 (2)

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changed into repeat 1/2 slider

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00:06:420 (1) - tbh this sounds like its supposed to be a triple instead of what u have rn esp since there's nothing on the blue tick

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ya looking at the overall rhythm of the map you have a good amount of triples and not that rhythm u had for it which doesn't rely show up again until like 03:58:558 (3) - which i'd argue a lil would also be a triple

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yes, fixed

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00:21:539 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - the rhythm here is kinda random? it seems like you just put in 4 circles and a slider and just repeat it without any thoughts

there are sounds at 00:21:778 (3,3) - you should map and you should incorportate more movement

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This is insane, I wont do anything crazy. besides that part is one of the strongest part of the song, so I made it 1/2 rhythm to make it denser compared to other part.
By doing this, that pattern also gives contrasity since there's no part of the song similar to that

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00:38:682 (1,2) - Don't really think these sliderends should be snapped that way, would be more natural if they were snapped to 1/1s to match vocals. https://i.imgur.com/2SowWbp.png ; at the moment feels like you're ignoring these vocals for the sake of nothing, because there are no sounds in these 1/2 beats

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00:43:682 (3) - Pretty much the same as above, try enlarging this by 1/2 until 00:44:159

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fixed

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00:40:111 (3) - this looks a bit too much like a normal straight slider, i think it should flare out some more at the base so that it would be more easily distinguishable/not misread for a straight

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I'd argue that 00:38:682 (1,2,3) - should just look cleaner in general 'cause it is really out of place compared to everything else and the song doesn't really warrant it all too much when you consider how 00:41:539 (1,2,1) - looks

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00:40:111 (3) - fixed this slider to make it more readable.

00:38:682 (1,2,3) - eh... I think it's fine, I feel like it's not out of place. might need another confirmation on this one

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00:40:587 (1) - i would actively map this with a short 1/2 slider instead of passively, as you were mapping the start of vocals actively on 00:38:682 (1,2,3) - 00:41:063 (2,3) -

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you would then have to adjust 00:40:587 (1) - afterwards too and map sth there

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fixed

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00:45:468 - What about adding a circle here for vocals, feels quite empty as now

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added 1 circle

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00:46:420 (3,4,5) - fix the stack

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done

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00:49:397 (1,1) - fix the stack

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done

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00:50:825 (3) - Vocal emphasis is near to 0 here, try removing the repeat and filling 00:51:182 - 00:51:301 - with circles

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fixed and also 00:51:301 - I used 1/2 slider instead

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00:56:063 (1) - changing this to 2 1/2 sliders would make more sense sicne you mapped the vocals in this section but ignored this sound 00:56:301 -

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It has similar rhythm 00:55:111 (3) - as this tho. so I dont think I need to change this

I also personally like this rhythm, and the part on 00:56:301 - already got emphasize by the angle direcion of the slider, so I believe it's fine

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00:57:968 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - would add in some movement so it isn't boring to play

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ok

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00:58:682 (1) - 01:01:301 (2) - these slider feel really out of place in rhythm when u compare it to the overall section of
00:58:682 (1) - 01:13:204 (1) -

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im assuming you are trying to follow the singers held out vocals but in this scenario I think it's better to break off following vocals because you have more prominent and more important sounds on parts like 00:59:634 - 01:01:420 -

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ok imo i really think this particular section of 00:58:682 (1) - 01:13:204 (1) - needs a rhythm rework,

my problem is that there are such prominent drums and guitar riffs in this section that following the vocals more often than not ignores it when it should be mapped because its more stronger than the vocals

this is especially on a problem on a part like 01:00:229 - because this could lead the player into misreading the timing of the hit circle, there's a strong drum right before it

some missed parts like 00:59:634 - 01:01:420 - too I feel like should rlly be mapped

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just giving my two cents here - I'm not sure if this is enough to warrant as a problem, I think suggestions would fit nicely here. Considering this is an insane diff, undermapping here and giving the focus on vocals really fit nicely. Rhythm isn't too crazy here so other parts of the song such as kiai can really shine as the harddest part of the map with more comlex rhythm

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I do agree with mikasa on 01:01:301 (2) - specifically because the vocal is being followed everywhere else in that section and the mapper just skips it there :3c (slider should just start on where the vocal starts)

I think 58:682 is fine tho, it's the end of a section, so the notes feel ok

same with 00:59:634 - , i don't think it warrants a vocal revamp 'cause the vocal is a longer note :3c

I also see that too ( #2259978 ) pointed that out

also ya suggestion stamp is fine

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uh.. idk what this is all about but I feel like it has relation #2259978
this.
so I rework the rhythm on 01:01:062 (1,2) - this part. if there's still a problem, please reopen.

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01:01:062 (1,2) - make it vocal follow? this rhythm choice only this diff and I feel a little uncomfortable

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yes

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01:07:729 (1,2,3) - would change the look/flow of the sliders even more so its different from 00:22:968 (1,2) - 00:34:397 (1,2) - which has a different slider rhtyhnm

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made it curved

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and made different rhythm

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the strings are at 01:07:729 01:07:967 01:08:205 and 01:08:443

would change the rhythm to something like https://prnt.sc/112kqy6 so it isn't just mapped to the drums

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but I want to emphasize the drum...

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also used different rhythm

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01:11:776 (4,5,6) - Space out to 0.5 ds for consistency with similar patterns maybe? Would help make sure it doesn't get read as a stack, which is used to portray 1/4 rhythm in this diff.

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02:33:083 (1,2) - it's not like that everywhere, and it's an insane so people should be able to read it tbh

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I think it's not a problem, please reopen if it must be fixed

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01:12:014 (6) - i feel like the pause here is unnecessary because you've been following along the singers vocals previously so might as well make it consistent with a slider instead

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also with my suggestion, it makes it a lot easier to read when 01:12:371 (1) - starts because most of the sliders have been starting on white where as this starts on red

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01:12:014 (6) - changed to 1/2 slider

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you can reopen, if it's still doesnt fit

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01:18:680 - Could add at least a 1/2 slider here, vocals around here are way too predominant to be ignored that wya

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done

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01:26:061 (1) - ctrl+G here for better flow and distance maybe?

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I think it's fine, because I tried to give the the top diff vibes, and I think it's not really a problem considering this part of the song should be harder compared to other sections.

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01:26:299 (2,3) - this could be nerfed a bit as you only really have the big circle->slider jumps on vocals in this chorus so would make more sense to keep doing that (examples: 01:24:394 (3,4,1) - 01:19:513 (3,1) - etc) something like this perhaps? https://i.imgur.com/uxGYlYA.png

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fixed the spacing

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01:31:537 (2) - not stacked, intentional?

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fixed

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01:34:632 (1,2) - It's the climax of the kiai and vocals/drums are really intense, however your rhythms are way too underwhelming. I'd really suggest some kind of rearrangement here using more 1/2s rather than two 1/1 repeats

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not really 1/2 only, added some 3/4. please do re-open if it's still an issue

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02:12:489 (4) - i dont get why there is a 2/1 gap when there is alot of things still happening in the music, would map the empty space

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emphasizing the vocal since it's the most simple and hearable for low ranked player.
hearable by means obvious. and also it's not kiai so it's fine

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02:18:680 (4) - Could make the sliderend visible, 1/4 kicks like that have more leniency, but since this is 3/4 may be a bit problematic

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done

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02:19:632 (3,4) - it would be better if you control g'ed the rhythm so it would be mapped to the song better

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done, I can only hope this doesn't cause misread xp

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02:20:346 (1,2) - would make this rhythm similar to what u have on 00:57:254 (1,2,3,1) - instead as It better follows vocals + instruments

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done

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02:20:346 (1) - you mapped the finish actively here but mapped it passively at 02:20:823 (2) - .

would change the rhythm so the finish at 02:21:061 is clickable

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I want to emphasize 02:21:299 (1,2,3,4,5) - this part, that's why I mapped it passively in 02:20:823 (3) - here

also to give contrast

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02:21:299 (1) - i have like mixed feelings about this pattern, I feel like it makes sense where it's placed but I also think you should introduce some kinda easier variant of it earlier like on 00:57:968 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - so that the players are better prepared for it

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it doesnt have to be the exact shape but just something where you have to somewhat stay in place not rlly to play it

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ok, fixed

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ctrl + g this 02:31:774 (1) - to make 02:31:536 (3,1) - easier to read (it looks like a 1/4 because of the repeat sliders right before)

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changed

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Love the break gimmick in this part 02:35:345 - but i feel like the gap is a bit too big here specifically 'cause you only do like 1,5 beat gaps elsewhere in the 2nd half of the section (namely 02:31:774 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - ) - a note on 02:35:345 - could add a bit more cohesiveness for your section :3c

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02:35:464 - added circle in here

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03:10:582 (1) - This one should be shorten by 1/4, it makes no sense rhytmically as now because the violin is at 03:10:820

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done

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03:12:725 (4) - should be 1/3

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fixed and added nc

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03:16:297 (1,1,6) - why is the same sound mapped in 3 different ways in the same section ? Use the same rhythm for every one of them

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What? all of them are different imo. Even if it's the same, I also want variety

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03:19:154 (7) - it makes sense why u did this, but personally as this entire section is pretty flowy in movement I would not stack it to continue with that flowy movement cuz rn it causes a really sharp stop

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03:20:582 (6) - could just do a really pretty long slider here as an alternative if you don't want to fix the flow or add more sliders due to the guitar :3c

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03:18:916 (6) - changed this into repeat slider

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03:31:058 (2,1) - this is like rly close to a 3.0x difference and I think you should also make the jump same distance on 03:31:773 (2,1) - as well if not more cuz its rising in music, rn it goes down in distance

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imo it makes sense with vocals to be a bad boi with the spacing contrast, don't think it necessarily needs a change 'cause it's not that obvious in gameplay

I would've prob commented on it too if it was like a hard diff or something but since it's an insane I think doing this should be ok

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just like what spork said, I think it's fine

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03:43:439 (1,2,3) - Musical representation here can be improved, if you hear carefully, the music starts decreasing its intensity from 03:43:439 - but then upscales again at 03:44:154 -. In summary, 03:44:154 (3) - mapping this in nearly the same manner as the previous two sliders doesn't fit that well, so try using some more engaging rhythms with 1/2 instead

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fixed

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03:58:439 (1,2,3) - wouldnt stack this instead make it have some kinda movement for difficulty progression and to match how movement heavy 03:57:725 (1,2,3) - previously was

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03:58:439 - there's also just not enough 1/4 in the song to warrant a 3-way reverse, so i'd just do a lot of single taps and maybe a singular 1/2 slider TBH

03:58:439 - alternatively, a 1/1 slider from the vocal on this spot could also be cool and then a note on 03:58:796 -

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???? this is fine imo. I don't get it, please re-open if this part is still wrong, thanks ^^

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04:22:011 - Not gonna lie but the whole ending feels way too underwhelming taking into account it's an Insane and more interesting rhythms can be used. You can try using 1/1 sliders with circles in-between and some more variations there, but as now it's literally 22 seconds of just clicking 2/1 sliders

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remapped the whole thing

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a

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fixed

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