That's not a claim, it's a passing suggestion.
If someone claimed to be an important role to the town, wouldn't you be cautious not to vote him? The Mafia would have their time at night, but the role claimer shouldn't get lynched by the town.Derekku Chan wrote:
1) You are lying about your aux role and are either:
a) Mafia: So it doesn't even matter that you're role claiming since you can't night kill yourself, but you may get lynched during the day.
By "Townie" I assume you mean a citizen/villager/whatever without an aux role. I don't see how that'd be stupid? Well it's not my problem anyway.Derekku Chan wrote:
b) Townie: Very stupid thing to do.
Indeed, which makes adam somewhat suspect because he is voting for me. Then again, if he were the Mafia, he'd kill me anyway. So I think it's safe to say he does believe I am the Mafia and he is not. That is, I am clearing adam's name as a suspect Mafia for me.Derekku Chan wrote:
2) You really are the doctor and:
a) We may not lynch you because the doctor is a valuable asset for the town.
Newbie mess-up. =[ As you say it was an accident and got you killed in your first game. I'm not convinced this is A Bad Thing quite yet because nothing has come from it.Derekku Chan wrote:
b) Your early role claim is very suspicious which may cause us to lynch you.
Indeed they likely will, unless for some reason they think I am lying, and I'm just a villager.Derekku Chan wrote:
c) Mafia will lynch you so you can't help the town.(Unless you are mafia)
If that is a formal resignation please PM the mod so he knows to find a replacement.kuwarudo wrote:
Since all of you are always pissed off I think I'll leave, my role is just a fucking townie anyway, get another player for this game. I'm leaving.
Yeah, yeah, I'll stop. Sorry. =X I'll get more serious into the game from now on.Echo wrote:
Tell me why I shouldn't be pissed off about scrolling through two pages of strager and kuu posts that contain nothing but trash.
This could be a crazy tactic used by kuu. He's acting so strange that he must be a Mafia. But then again, why would a Mafia attract so much attention to himself? Once that is discovered (by maybe a real Mafia) those voting against kuu may retract their votes. Thus, fingers would be pointed away from kuu, which is the original plan, because kuu is a Mafia.Olinad wrote:
Anyway, I'll wait a bit more before voting as usual... right now I'd vote for Kuu just because he's so pissing me off with all those messages... -.-' But I dunno if it's a good idea for the game.
You mean to say we should discuss who you should vote for? ;P0_o wrote:
my vote is now pending future discussion ^_^
EST (GMT -05:00) here as well. DST applies but hopefully this won't cross into whatevermonthDSTchangesthetime.0_o wrote:
also, could everyone post their time zones? I'm EST -0500
No worries. You'll be killed on Night one anyway.Olinad wrote:
I'm still going to school every morning til saturday... so I won't be here so much!
strager wrote:
Indeed, which makes adam somewhat suspect because he is voting for me. Then again, if he were the Mafia, he'd kill me anyway. So I think it's safe to say he does believe I am the Mafia and he is not. That is, I am clearing adam's name as a suspect Mafia for me.
Sorry, I just couldn't resist. The way you say it makes it sound funny.parody wrote:
Adam is voting for me, thus he must be a townie.
Aww. =[LadySuburu wrote:
Finding a replacement for Kuu.
Why are you defending yourself?strager wrote:
If someone claimed to be an important role to the town, wouldn't you be cautious not to vote him? The Mafia would have their time at night, but the role claimer shouldn't get lynched by the town.
adam's done absolutely nothing to convince anyone that he's not mafia. All he's done is put a vote on you with no explanation. You have no reason to clear his name unless you already know he's a townie.strager wrote:
Indeed, which makes adam somewhat suspect because he is voting for me. Then again, if he were the Mafia, he'd kill me anyway. So I think it's safe to say he does believe I am the Mafia and he is not. That is, I am clearing adam's name as a suspect Mafia for me.
Villagers don't lie about aux roles.strager wrote:
Indeed they likely will, unless for some reason they think I am lying, and I'm just a villager.Derekku Chan wrote:
c) Mafia will lynch you so you can't help the town.
Circular reasoning, buddy. In other words, you've said absolutely nothing.strager wrote:
This could be a crazy tactic used by kuu. He's acting so strange that he must be a Mafia. But then again, why would a Mafia attract so much attention to himself? Once that is discovered (by maybe a real Mafia) those voting against kuu may retract their votes. Thus, fingers would be pointed away from kuu, which is the original plan, because kuu is a Mafia.
For one, you missed the part I quoted:Echo wrote:
Why are you defending yourself?strager wrote:
If someone claimed to be an important role to the town, wouldn't you be cautious not to vote him? The Mafia would have their time at night, but the role claimer shouldn't get lynched by the town.
I was merely saying that if I were Mafia I would role claim to defend myself (because you wouldn't want to lynch a Doctor unless you were a Mafia, of course). But I am not role claiming to defend myself.Derekku Chan wrote:
1) You are lying about your aux role and are either:
a) Mafia: So it doesn't even matter that you're role claiming since you can't night kill yourself, but you may get lynched during the day.
I never said I was convinced he wasn't Mafia. I'm just saying for today I won't consider him a possible target for vote.Echo wrote:
adam's done absolutely nothing to convince anyone that he's not mafia. All he's done is put a vote on you with no explanation. You have no reason to clear his name unless you already know he's a townie.strager wrote:
Indeed, which makes adam somewhat suspect because he is voting for me. Then again, if he were the Mafia, he'd kill me anyway. So I think it's safe to say he does believe I am the Mafia and he is not. That is, I am clearing adam's name as a suspect Mafia for me.
Eh? Is that a rule, or are you stating a general trend?Echo wrote:
Villagers don't lie about aux roles.strager wrote:
Indeed they likely will, unless for some reason they think I am lying, and I'm just a villager.Derekku Chan wrote:
c) Mafia will lynch you so you can't help the town.
Indeed it is circular reasoning. However, because of this circular reasoning I believe kuu was trying to confuse (see his odd posts) and thus is a Mafia.Echo wrote:
Circular reasoning, buddy. In other words, you've said absolutely nothing.strager wrote:
This could be a crazy tactic used by kuu. He's acting so strange that he must be a Mafia. But then again, why would a Mafia attract so much attention to himself? Once that is discovered (by maybe a real Mafia) those voting against kuu may retract their votes. Thus, fingers would be pointed away from kuu, which is the original plan, because kuu is a Mafia.
Agreed.Echo wrote:
mod: can we get a vote tally please?
Or night kill. I think I meant both. Doesn't matter.derekku chan wrote:
c) Mafia will lynch you so you can't help the town. (Unless you are mafia)
First, you claim an important role. Then you make a post saying that people shouldn't be voting for someone who claims a role. How is that not defending yourself!?strager wrote:
I was merely saying that if I were Mafia I would role claim to defend myself (because you wouldn't want to lynch a Doctor unless you were a Mafia, of course). But I am not role claiming to defend myself. And it's not true that I'm using that to defend myself. So I'm not sure where you think I'm defending myself.
strager wrote:
So I think it's safe to say he does believe I am the Mafia and he is not. That is, I am clearing adam's name as a suspect Mafia for me.
Read that and tell me you never said you weren't convinced. You were absolutely totally completely convinced in the first quote that adam is not mafia.strager wrote:
I never said I was convinced he wasn't Mafia.
There's no reason for townies to claim aux roles. "Drawing attention" away from the real aux roles almost never works. The only people with reason to claim an aux role are either wolves or the real aux role.strager wrote:
Eh? Is that a rule, or are you stating a general trend?Echo wrote:
Villagers don't lie about aux roles.
I think he was just raging, actually.strager wrote:
Indeed it is circular reasoning. However, because of this circular reasoning I believe kuu was trying to confuse (see his odd posts) and thus is a Mafia.
Oh, I misread your statement. I thought by lynch you meant kill during the Night.Derekku Chan wrote:
Or night kill. I think I meant both. Doesn't matter.derekku chan wrote:
c) Mafia will lynch you so you can't help the town. (Unless you are mafia)
No, I was asking a question:Echo wrote:
First, you claim an important role. Then you make a post saying that people shouldn't be voting for someone who claims a role. How is that not defending yourself!?strager wrote:
I was merely saying that if I were Mafia I would role claim to defend myself (because you wouldn't want to lynch a Doctor unless you were a Mafia, of course). But I am not role claiming to defend myself. And it's not true that I'm using that to defend myself. So I'm not sure where you think I'm defending myself.
strager wrote:
If someone claimed to be an important role to the town, wouldn't you be cautious not to vote him?
Saying I am defending myself (however implicitly) is baseless. So I'll completely disregard your attacks on my defense.Echo wrote:
Also part in bold - what do you mean you're not defending yourself? That's a baseless statement with no evidence.
I meant to say I wasn't convinced by someone else. Sorry.Echo wrote:
strager wrote:
So I think it's safe to say he does believe I am the Mafia and he is not. That is, I am clearing adam's name as a suspect Mafia for me.Read that and tell me you never said you weren't convinced. You were absolutely totally completely convinced in the first quote that adam is not mafia.strager wrote:
I never said I was convinced he wasn't Mafia.
I see, that's something you've learned from experience? I'll keep that in mind for the next games I play, and even this game when the Cop shows up (if there even is a Cop; see my post a few pages back).Echo wrote:
There's no reason for townies to claim aux roles. "Drawing attention" away from the real aux roles almost never works. The only people with reason to claim an aux role are either wolves or the real aux role.strager wrote:
Eh? Is that a rule, or are you stating a general trend?Echo wrote:
Villagers don't lie about aux roles.
There is an exception, of course, when it's all planned out, but you can't talk behind the scenes in this game so you can't use someone else as a substitute and act through them to protect yourself.
Heh, I guess so. Kinda hard to discern for me; I don't know kuu.Echo wrote:
I think he was just raging, actually.strager wrote:
Indeed it is circular reasoning. However, because of this circular reasoning I believe kuu was trying to confuse (see his odd posts) and thus is a Mafia.
That's a rhetorical question. You're telling us not to vote for you, ie. defending yourself.strager wrote:
No, I was asking a question:strager wrote:
If someone claimed to be an important role to the town, wouldn't you be cautious not to vote him?
Your posts are defensive. This argument is based on your posts, not just random guesses in the air.strager wrote:
Saying I am defending myself (however implicitly) is baseless. So I'll completely disregard your attacks on my defense.Echo wrote:
Also part in bold - what do you mean you're not defending yourself? That's a baseless statement with no evidence.
So you admit that you convinced yourself adam is townie? My point still stands - you can't convince yourself someone is townie when they haven't made a single proper post unless you already know they're townie.strager wrote:
I meant to say I wasn't convinced by someone else. Sorry.
So now you're admitting cop? General rule: first to mention cop in any way is cop themselves.strager wrote:
I see, that's something you've learned from experience? I'll keep that in mind for the next games I play, and even this game when the Cop shows up (if there even is a Cop; see my post a few pages back).
I was going to write that myself.0_o wrote:
@Echo, imo you can't really blame him for getting defensive when every post you make attacks each sentence of his one by one
And how exactly does mentioning the cop imply that he's claiming cop??
sorry, but this whole thing is making me a tad suspicious...
That's mostly because he hasn't had a chance to get on. When he did get on not much was going on. If I were you I'd wait like 14 hours until he has had a chance to post again.0_o wrote:
And since nardi has barely posted anything, I'll throw a vote his way and see if that makes him speak up
We'll see. I don't really find nardi particularly suspicious, it's just that everyone else just seems innocentstrager wrote:
That's mostly because he hasn't had a chance to get on. When he did get on not much was going on. If I were you I'd wait like 14 hours until he has had a chance to post again.0_o wrote:
And since nardi has barely posted anything, I'll throw a vote his way and see if that makes him speak up
(I'm not disagreeing with your reasoning; I'm just saying you may be a bit early. Then again you can always change your vote.)
Don't dodge the question.Echo wrote:
Firstly, strager never claimed doctor. He just went with what I said. The real doctor would have tried to cover it up. strager, on the other hand, admitted it straight away.strager wrote:
D= I didn't mean to.Echo wrote:
dammit WHY do the doctors always need to expose themselves on the first day?Secondly, he admitted to convincing himself adam is townie without adam making any real posts. Plus, he completely ignored this accusation in his last post.Echo wrote:
So you admit that you convinced yourself adam is townie? My point still stands - you can't convince yourself someone is townie when they haven't made a single proper post unless you already know they're townie.strager wrote:
I meant to say I wasn't convinced by someone else. Sorry.The cop role shouldn't be on your mind, since he's useless until after the first night. Therefore, mentioning it is a tad suspicious. Why would strager be thinking about the cop, then?0_o wrote:
And how exactly does mentioning the cop imply that he's claiming cop??
I have stated:Echo wrote:
Don't dodge the question.
strager wrote:
You're attacking. Am I supposed to just take that?
Okay, I will.