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Megpoid GUMI - Miracle-Gumiracle

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Topic Starter
Vanmonky
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, November 14, 2009 at 3:20:02 PM

Artist: Megpoid GUMI
Title: Miracle-Gumiracle
Source: Vocaloid2
Tags: Hatsune Miku Len Ren Kagamine KAITO
BPM: 160
Filesize: 6155kb
Play Time: 03:14
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (3 stars, 247 notes)
  2. Hard (4.93 stars, 553 notes)
  3. Insane (5 stars, 735 notes)
  4. Normal (4.32 stars, 329 notes)
Download: Megpoid GUMI - Miracle-Gumiracle
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My first ranked beatmap!

A little info about this song. Miracle-Gumiracle, sung by Megpoid GUMI, is another version of the Miracle-Hinacle song (by IOSYS) which was mapped by -SiN-. Enjoy the nice voice and the great song.
NoHitter
Your BPM is correct:

Offset is 1070.
Topic Starter
Vanmonky
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Torran
Wow, a Vocaloid sounds like this 0_0, way better than Miku

Anyways, Timing:
BPM 160
Offset 1,045

Starred!
Topic Starter
Vanmonky

NoHItter wrote:

Your BPM is correct:

Offset is 1070.
I tried this offset but I don't think this is the exactly offset, because some of the circles' sounds were lagging.

soradg123 wrote:

Wow, a Vocaloid sounds like this 0_0, way better than Miku

Anyways, Timing:
BPM 160
Offset 1,045

Starred!
And after I tried this offset, this works!!
Thanks for the offset (and also the new BPM) and the star (this is my first time got a star)!
Topic Starter
Vanmonky
I wanna ask some questions...

1. May I use the zero stack leniency?
2. Which better, with lyrics or without lyrics?
DJPop
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
Vanmonky

DJPop wrote:

1. No
2. It's your desire
1. Why? Because that's unrankable?
2. I'm asking suggestion :P
Torran

VanMoNky wrote:

I wanna ask some questions...

1. May I use the zero stack leniency?
2. Which better, with lyrics or without lyrics?
1. As DJPop said, unrankable (Wait, if it's unrankable then why is the option even there in the first place!?)
2. With lyrics, imo
Topic Starter
Vanmonky

soradg123 wrote:

1. As DJPop said, unrankable
2. With lyrics, imo
1. But THIS BEATMAP use that trick and the map ranked.. Explain to me please..
2. Alright~
Torran

VanMoNky wrote:

soradg123 wrote:

1. As DJPop said, unrankable
2. With lyrics, imo
1. But THIS BEATMAP use that trick and the map ranked.. Explain to me please..
2. Alright~
Post subject: Re: Rate the Mapping Technique - Nominations

peppy wrote:

Keep in mind that is very unrankable.
Well, not completely... Plus, that beatmap looks sorta old, probably before the rules were implemented...
Topic Starter
Vanmonky
Owh.. So.. I may not use that trick?
But.. I have made the map this far using the trick :(

Thanks before.
Topic Starter
Vanmonky
All finished! Ready to be mod!
Krisom

soradg123 wrote:

Wow, a Vocaloid sounds like this 0_0, way better than Miku

Gumi is the last oficial vocaloid, and alongside with Gakupo, they were published by Internet Co. and their voices are both taken from profesional singers. Megumi Nakajima Made Gumi's voice, and if I'm not wrong, Gackt made Gakupo's voice...

Exelent song! I'll see if I can mod anything right now, and I'll edit.


EDIT:
I warn ya, I'm noobish at modding, so I may (and most likely, I will) say something stupid.

General:

I love what you did with the skin, background, all the Kiai Modes seem to be nicely placed. Playing this song it's visually very enjoyable. But, some sliders look weird..

Easy:

00:24:85 (1). It's not bad, I just remember having problems reading this one as a slider, mainly becouse it's hidden...
01:50:92 (1,2,3,4,5) This one follows the beat as always, but confuses me in placing. Maybe you could try something like this...?
Or you could just ignore me. Yeah, that's fine too X3

Normal:
02:07:70 - 02:08:45. Why is there a blank space between two breaks?

Hard:
01:12:95 (6). Is this one ok?
01:37:60 (10) I'd change this slider for a circle, but that's just me.
02:07:70 - 02:08:45. Same as normal.

Insane (I just watched autoplay on edit, I can't play like that yet...):
02:07:70 - 02:08:45. Same as normal.


Sorry I could not be of help. But I really would like this one get ranked, it's great.

Star!
cyanberryio
I'm taking care of [Easy] rawr.

I must say, you're a creative storyboarder~ But some of it don't fit.
The following are NOT suggestions and I ask you change them! D:
WTF@all the bookmarks. ._.
The following should be the only Kiai sections of the map, remove the rest: 00:38:54 - 01:02:54, 01:38:54 - 02:02:54, 02:38:54 - 03:02:54.
00:25:60 (1) - Illegal overlapping. [Before you pull the Marisa card, that's an OLD map]
00:32:73 - lolwut break? Remove the break that's somehow on the slider.
00:52:42 (1) - NO
01:17:17 (2) - Uhh...I'm having thoughts that this is bad.
01:36:67 (3) - No, please! D:
01:40:42 (7) - Someone needs to be smacked for this. CHANGE IT!
Cursor in stroyboard that is not difficulty specific, remove it! Then full submit.

Skin:
comboburst.png should be 768px height.
star2.png should not be that big.

Not going to star until there are no more illegal parts. >_> Maybe I'll stop by everyone once in a while to see. xP
-SiN-
22:58  *AgnesChan is playing (Megpoid GUMI - Miracle-Gumiracle)[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/9416] [Easy]
22:58 <AgnesChan> : WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK WAS THAT SLIDER ABOUT /nobanchobot
22:59 <AgnesChan> : ...Er, sorry for the language.
22:59 <AgnesChan> : There was a slider overlapping another
22:59 <AgnesChan> : and i didn't see it coming
22:59 <AgnesChan> : That HAS to be removed or fixed
Kitsunemimi
The star.png is too big or too opaque IMO. Maybe make it less intense?

[Insane]:
00:02:54 + 00:08:54 (timing) - You're not allowed to have kiai sections that close
00:10:79 (9) - Even it out
00:24:85 + 00:25:60 + 00:26:54 (timing) - Once again, the kiai rule
00:26:54 (1) - A little bit too squiggly. Make the BPM 0.5x and unsquiggle the slider a bit
00:28:42 (5-9) - Obvious example of why to raise the stack tolerance
00:38:54 + 00:50:54 (timing) - Unfortunately, that's too close as well
01:05:73 (timing) - Random ending of kiai?
01:08:35 (timing) - Useless section
01:08:54 (timing) - Kiai rule and useless section (it's a break)
01:11:73 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Kinda copying -SiN-'s IOSYS - Miracle Hinacle it seems...
01:33:29 (7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Don't overlap
01:40:42 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Hitsounds and circle timing is the exact same as -SiN-'s map
01:44:73 (7,8,9,10,11,12) - Spacing
01:57:85 (1,2) - It's not quite aligned properly...
02:07:70 - 02:08:45 (break) - What the heck?
02:23:73 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Copying
02:25:23 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - omg ugly random hircircle colours
02:35:17 (1-13) - Unreadable
02:42:67 (6,7,8) - Illegal
03:03:85 (4) - Spacing
03:09:85 (4) - ^
03:11:73 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ...copying what you did earlier...
03:14:59 - 03:17:05 (timing) - Super overkill kiai rule right there. There were so many stars that it lagged me down to 20 FPS

So there it is. It seems you have a lot of illegal things in your map, I suggest taking care of those quickly. Also, even if it's the same song, try to make your map as different as possible from the original. Until you do so, I'm not starring. I may have seemed a bit nazi for a couple of those suggestions though :P

Good luck on ranking >.>
Topic Starter
Vanmonky

Krisom wrote:

Normal:
02:07:70 - 02:08:45. Why is there a blank space between two breaks?

Hard:
02:07:70 - 02:08:45. Same as normal.

Insane:
02:07:70 - 02:08:45. Same as normal.
Thanks for the star, thanks for fix. You are the first person who mod my map ^^

but, these blank between two breaks are something like trap, you know..
lying players..
it's okay to let them used, isn't it..?
Topic Starter
Vanmonky
@ Harris73

Ehm.. I think you're really wrong. About copying -SiN-'s map, I even never finished playing any diff of his Miracle-Miracle map. I swear, I really DON'T KNOW that the hitsounds or circle timing or anythings in my map are the same as -SiN-'s map. I know you wouldn't believe me, but at least I've told the truth..

@ Krisom, Alex0686, -SiN-, Harris73

Thanks for the mod. I've uploaded it. Please check them back~
Agnes
I was working with Harris and Alex for this. Finally, my Normal mod comes for this.

Blue is Suggestions.
Red is VERY vital.

Problems
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General: I really wouldn't suggest 1/8th timing, seeing as this is your first beatmap. See a BAT or a mapping expert about this. D;

[Normal]
00:28:541 - I doubt this is rankable to some BATs. You might want to fix this...
00:16:79 (3) - Shorten this out by pulling the end point a bit so the slider can end on the blue snap. (Suggestion from Sun_and_Lunar)
02:26:525 - Another possibly unrankable slider. Fix this as well.
03:05:73 (Hitsounds on 1,2,3,5,6,7,8,9) - 1,2 will be claps, 3 is a whistle, 4,5,6,7 is a clap, and 8,9 being a whistle. (This is a recommendation from Sun_and_Lunar)

I'm sorry, but this can't get a star from me until the vital parts are fixed...

Edit: Yay, I see the changes! <3 Star'd~ Keep it up, Van.
Topic Starter
Vanmonky
Thanks AgnesChan, Harris, & Alex ;)
I've fixed them all and uploaded.

Thanks for the suggestion agnes. But, really, I can handle this 1/8th timing. Seriously.

Mod/Star/BAT request please :lol:
Jinxy
This map should not have anything on 1/8, except spinners.

[Easy]
00:25:60 (1) - Move it out, may be unrankable, I don't know.
03:11:73 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Some areas are very stacky, but this caught my attention. It may be a little hard for a newb to grasp, but you don't have to change.
03:13:74 (6,7) - Move to the nearest white tick.

[Normal]
00:50:54 (1) - WHAT THE HELL? Completely unrankable.
01:00:81 (5) - Move this 1/8 to the right. OR Remove this and start the spinner at 01:00:85.

[Hard]
00:52:79 (7) - Make this a horizontal copy of (6)

[Insane]
03:13:60 (3,4) - Make this a horizontal copy of (1,2) [Note] Spacing may suffer slightly, but that is not a problem.


Good job on this.
Topic Starter
Vanmonky
Allright. I've fixed them all and uploaded.
Thanks for the mod and thanks for the star~

Mod/Star/BAT request please :lol:
EEeee
hmm weird, it says i already had this map, i must have forgot to mod it back in the day, sorry

Easy
01:42:67 (4) - new combo this and this diff is perfect

Normal
nice diff, set preview point in this diff though, make sure it matches others

Hard
00:01:04 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - aww shizz, nice combo dude
01:48:85 (1) - make this 2000+(make sure auto can get at least 2000) i think this is still illegal
02:43:42 (6) - new combo?
03:11:73 (8) - ^

insane
01:48:85 (1) - 1000 spinner? fix that, and i hope i didn't miss anymore, if u see one, make sure to fix
02:35:92 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - i would add a new combo at 5,9, and 13, consider this

Overall
nice map, but i noticed in ur comment that u said this map is complete, if so and if u want this to get ranked, move it to pending, cause atm it's in WIP :P
also cute sb at the corner :P

*star
Xgor
lemme see...why does osu! like Vocaloids so much....

[Overall]

AHH kiai time abuse! (please remove 0:02:58 , 0:05:58, 0:50:54, 1:02:54,1:50:54, 2:02:54,2:50:54 and 3:02:54.....)
Also i think it's great that you SB the lyrics (osu! needs more of this kind of SB :D )

[Easy]

Nice difficulty although i would call it Normal.....(that's maybe just me...)
Although i think that 02:40:42 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) is a bit confusing.... and the sliders are a bit short for a easy...

[Normal]

00:39:29 (5,6,7,1,2) - Confusing X,x

[Hard]

GAAA..... i suck at modding hard diffs (i need to get better)
01:48:85 (1) - Spinner gives only 1000 (t needs 2000 to be rankible)
02:25:23 (1,2,1,2) - These claps are pretty annoying......

[Insane]

........I can FC this on CTB :P
Download: Xgor - Megpoid GUMI - Miracle-Gumiracle [Insane] (2009-10-21) CatchTheBeat.osr
I HATE MODDING INSANES!

Great map thats undoubtedly worth a star!
*star*
-SiN-

Xgor wrote:

Also i think it's great that you SB the lyrics (osu! needs more of this kind of SB :D )
no. osu! need more animated SB :p
(peppy want something like that more xD)

looks like this is good already.
have a star~
Topic Starter
Vanmonky
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
ayey
"~Starred~" :)
Sun and Lunar
nice map :D

since all unrankable slider gone... star :P
Topic Starter
Vanmonky
Allright~
thx ayey and sun lunar~

Now this map has 8 stars. Moved to pending~
Kitsunemimi
...You're not supposed to give kudosu for starring posts >.>

also, star
NoHitter
Don't place the inherited timing sections that change in volume/hitsounds [soft or normal] directly during the time the note is supposed to be hit. If the player hits it too early or too late then the it may sound not that quite right.

Now for the modding:

Easy

Good

Normal

My only concern here is that AImod (Ctrl+Shift+A) finds errors in spacing.
Example: 01:00:295 (3) - This should be further away.
Correct some of these. Be wary that AImod may makes mistakes too, but it's good to browse over it.

Hard

Same as above, I'm worried about the distance snapping, but since this is a Hard diff, it's more lenient

Insane

^

Starred
Topic Starter
Vanmonky
Thanks JInxyjem, Harris73, and NoHItter for the star!
Sorry Harris, idk it's illegal.

@ NoHItter

I've fixed them. Uploaded~
Yes_old
insane
00:05:73 (1) - weird that it has soft hitsound when other places that sound like this doesnt
00:32:17 (8) - new combo?
00:53:54 (7) - nwecombo
00:53:73 (1) - no new combo
01:12:95 (8) - delete note? ._.
01:26:26 (2,3,4) - new combo these since you did this the first part of the song? like 00:20:17 (1)
01:37:04 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - some hitsounds here would be nice
01:53:54 (6) - new combo?
03:13:98 (x) - add note?

easy
00:32:35 (5) - i dont like this note ;-;
00:40:42 (2) - clap at end?
00:43:42 (2) - ^
00:52:42 (1) - ^
00:55:42 (1) - ^
01:29:92 (4) - new combo
01:40:42 (7) - clap at end?
01:43:42 (4) - ^
03:13:23 (5) - new combo?
03:14:54 (1) - lower volume for this spinner

hard
00:56:17 (11,12) - not a fan of this placement ;---;
01:12:95 (6) - delete note?
01:28:79 (9) - clap at end
02:24:67 (12) - delete a repeat?
02:44:54 (1) - finish
02:48:85 (1) - ^
03:10:60 (6) - align with 4
03:12:85 (6) - spacing
03:14:54 (1) - lower volume

make sure all the combo colors throughout all the difficulties are the same ._.?

great job!!!! i like this map a lot. here's a star in hopes this will be ranked soon~
Topic Starter
Vanmonky
Thanks Yes. Fixed and uploaded.
anonymous_old
Normal
SPOILER

00:29:54 (1) : This song is a light and airy piece, so try not to use linear sliders.
01:22:98 (2) : When overlapping sliders, try to make the next one a new combo, so they they are different colors.
02:03:201 : This is a long break, consider doing something with the SB, because we're stuck looking at the spinning monkey. :3
02:30:67 : Add a beat here.

Hard
SPOILER

00:07:23 (7,8,9,10) : Not a nice overlap.
00:12:67 (5,6) : Move these lower below 3.
00:31:701 : Add a beat here (?)
00:44:54 (1) : Instead of giving this slider a "{"-shape, you should make it .5x speed.
01:54:48 (6) : Move this beat so that it's vertically parallel with 4.
01:54:67 (7) : Move this beat so that it's vertically parallel with 5.
02:03:201 : This is a long break, consider doing something with the SB, because we're stuck looking at the spinning monkey. :3
02:35:17 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) : Nice Samba de Amigo-stye. :D
03:03:62 (4) : Move this forward by 1 tick on 1/8.
Topic Starter
Vanmonky
I've added new SB.
Check it out! I know the SB is really really foolish. But I need some suggestions.

Fixed and Updated.
Derekku
[General]
o_o This map is VERY nicely made for your first. I love the SBing and lyrics and colors and *w*

[Easy]
00:48:85 (1) - For any spinners in this map like this one (where the next beat is only white tick after the spinner), perhaps put the following beat closer to the middle so that it's easier to hit after finishing the spinner? Spinners can be challenging for newer players, so placing a following beat far away can make it even more difficult.
01:24:85 (5,1) - I LOVED this. It wasn't enough that I like when there's a slider, a pause, and then another slider over it as a different color, but the storyboarded flash of light was just AWESOME

[Normal]
*Maybe turn overall diff up a notch?
00:39:29 (5) - I like this but it's kind of hard to see under (4) (and (3) is a little bit hard to see too on top of (4))
01:00:29 (4,5) - Kinda hard to hit. I'd extend (4) to the white tick and either delete (5) or move (5) to the red tick and move the spinner forward to the white tick and shorten it.
02:00:85 (5) - Either delete it or move the spinner up to the white tick.

[Hard]
*Maybe turn overall diff up a notch?
00:02:17 (7,8,9) - Too spread out, which makes this very difficult. (1-9 is kinda hard to read in the first place anyway) Please change this ._.
01:37:79 (1) - Maybe move this forward to the blue tick and shorten?
02:00:90 (1) - Move forward to the white tick and shorten (I keep saying this because the spinner comes in while you're still hitting notes/sliders which can be confusing/distracting)
02:26:59 (1) - Move forward to the red tick and shorten
02:32:63 (1) - ^
03:00:90 (1) - Move forward to the white tick and shorten
03:03:52 (4) - Move forward to the blue tick (check other triplet sections like this to make sure)

[Insane]
02:26:63 (1) - Move forward to the red tick and shorten~
02:32:63 (1) - ^
02:35:17 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - 1/2 beat jumps? Those are HARSH ._. (But really nice if one can pull them off)
03:14:54 (1) - Move up to the blue tick and shorten~

Nice job (b'.')b
varq
Easy
No problems by me

Normal
No problems by me

Hard
- What's with all the weird in-combo jumps?
- The "Overall Difficulty" should be increased, the approach circles are too slow.
00:01:42 (3,4) - Hard to read
00:02:17 (7,8,9) - Harder to read
00:23:07 (11) - The clap sounds really weird here
03:09:29 (2) - I really don't like this. Could it be changed to a slider lasting a 1/2 and repeating once?

Insane
02:35:17 (1~13) - Too much distance increase, but maybe that's just me. :/
02:43:23 (2) - This slider is extremely hard to see when playing the map.

Starred~
Topic Starter
Vanmonky
Thanks derekku chan ^^
But, some your suggestions about the spinner can't be used. Auto must get at least 2000 bonus on spinner to be ranked. If I follow your suggestion, auto can only get 1000. So, sorry.

Thanks varq. Followed!

Fixed & updated. Please mod~

Btw, the update history is very long.. Rank this map so it won't be longer anymore~ lol
anonymous_old

VanMoNky wrote:

Thanks derekku chan ^^
But, some your suggestions about the slider can't be used. Auto must get at least 2000 bonus on spinner to be ranked. If I follow your suggestion, auto can only get 1000. So, sorry.

Thanks varq. Followed!

Fixed & updated. Please mod~
that's for spinners.
Derekku
x_x Thanks for the reminder. I knew I was forgetting something about spinners...

Well, as long as no one else thinks that it's a problem that they're popping up while the player is still hitting notes/sliders, then it's fine :)
Luneko
Nice map ^^
Hard is kinda Confusing but its ok :)

Have a Star!
Topic Starter
Vanmonky
thanks killerrind ^^

---

Fixed all mistakes I found and fixed the SB. Updated!
BAT request please...

SPOILER
It's so hard to find a BAT to see the new mapper's map, such as me...
For anyone who read this, please find a BAT for me :(
And thanks..
Andrea
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Alice
SPOILER
For BATs, just try to catch one of their modding queue before they get closed or ask gently a BAT that says he accept mod request or something (in his signature for example) o_o... Usually they won't come alone, especially for new mappers as you said, of course *cough*reallywellknownmappersthateveryoneloves will get their map modded by BAT fast, but, when you're a new mapper, either as I said you try to catch a BAT either you wait for lots of priority (or mod and shoot with kds stars)

Hmmm. Really there's only nazi to say xDD So take this mod as suggestions, especially for make the map prettier to play/see because there's no timing/spacing problem I guess.. Hope it will be a bit helpful though ;_;
Insane
00:10:79 (9) - Turn of grid snap and align it with endpoint?
00:26:35 (1) - I don't like this new combo :/
00:27:48 (2) - reaaalllyyy nazi but 1 grid up looks better doesn't it? D:
00:52:04 (10) - it's really to make it prettier so don't do it if you don't want to redo spacing for kinda-nothing: align with previous 5,8, etc? (hope you see what I mean)
01:48:67 (1) - It feels a bit out of place.. I don't know but sounds like notes are missed before, but in any way I don't like how this spinner is placed, suggest to remove and replace with notes and reversed sliders or something, or either add notes before and make it start after but I dunno about 2000 bonus then D:
02:25:23 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - I can't lie: this plays pretty well. But I'm afraid to say poor tag players ><;

Hard
00:02:54 (9) - Not sure about this out-of-map note O:..
01:48:48 (7) - I hate saying this: 1 grid right?
02:45:85 (2) - I personally don't care but people may ask you to change this for semi-hidden note (but I'm not gonna bug you with this I'm not against hidden notes, and not even semi-hidden lol)
03:10:42 (5) - Why ;_; 1 grid down :3;;

Normal
I usually don't like when there are jumps on normal but there's a big warning here and normal diffs or todays are lots of horrible hardish normal so seriously I'm gonna say nothing.

Easy
00:25:60 (1) - I don't really like this new combo.

Just for this you already became another fav mapper of mine. You used to take your time to do a pretty decent map for your first, not to say awesome (cool storyboard, really nice mapset) , and something that doesn't really need mods (as I said mine is really suggestions lol, doubts they are real problems here.). You have my star, hope for a quick rank :3 *favs*
Topic Starter
Vanmonky
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Arusha Shuna
i dunno about this but... :|

Download: Megpoid GUMI - Miracle-Gumiracle (VanMoNky) [Normal].osu

anyways nice map! :)
Topic Starter
Vanmonky
Allright.. So, arusha..
What did you change?
Loginer
General
Very well-made beatmap, although it wouldn't hurt to use a few more whistle samples on Hard and Insane IMO.

[Insane]
01:22:98 (4) - Move this slider down a tad.
02:16:42 (5,6) - Move these hit circles closer to (4).
02:22:42 (5,6) - Same here.
03:06:48 (4,1,2,1) - Move these closer to (9).

[Easy]
Might want to remove the "JUMP!" on 00:35:17 and 02:35:17 since there are no actual jumps here on this difficulty.

Should be rankable once you've fixed these things.
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