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higurush
I made a video for those people who are bad at streams. Note that I am still not a pro at streams, but with these techniques I could stream 1,5-2x faster within a very short time.

[HD] Osu! Stream techniques for dummies. ( Tutorial )




:!: Please do not flame here. Some people would treasure this video. :!:
kriers
worry about accuracy before speed .-.
Salvage
Sadly i almost allways miss with my tablet and not the kb, pretty stupid on certain spacings :(
gat1toneku
i still don't really get it ==
so which technique should i use to stream fast?
Kuria
click more, stream more.
very simple conclusion yet not all the people really take an attention about it :/
Mismagius
speed > accuracy


that's what I learned with tapping
Liut

gat1toneku wrote:

i still don't really get it ==
so which technique should i use to stream fast?
you should stream fast with your own "more comfortable" position .
Other then that it's just natural preposition and a bit of practice
Royboyvdm
That hitting 2 buttons on the same time seems a bit unaccurated, not like if im streaming im even trying to pay attention to the rithme or timing, just trying to combo it and not fail the map XD
Topic Starter
higurush

kriers wrote:

worry about accuracy before speed .-.
This topic is not about accuracy, but streamspeed : )
The accuracy is everyone's own problem. They should practice more and more.
CXu

kriers wrote:

worry about accuracy before speed .-.
those

higurush wrote:

kriers wrote:

worry about accuracy before speed .-.
This topic is not about accuracy, but streamspeed : )
The accuracy is everyone's own problem. They should practice more and more.
worry about accuracy before speed .-.
The stream speed is everyone's own problem. They should practice more and more.
Liut
so what ? op didn't say "stream speed it's everything!!1111!!!"
higurush putted efforts to help someone .
kriers
if you wanna get good: find a comfortable streaming technique -> master lower bpm like 120-140 bpm (mastery = 98-100% accuracy on od8) -> use this technique on higher bpm and sync your fingers to all kinds of paces
Topic Starter
higurush

those wrote:

worry about accuracy before speed .-.
The stream speed is everyone's own problem. They should practice more and more.
Let's presume that the one, who needs help is accurate and can do jumps too etc, but only lack the streamspeed. : )


Liutprando wrote:

so what ? op didn't say "stream speed it's everything!!1111!!!"
higurush putted efforts to help someone .
Yup, stream speed is not everything. That's why I made the video. I am one of those speedjumpers who lacked the streamspeed before and I developed my own technique to be able to do any kind of stream, but at least have no miss on them.


higurush wrote:

:!: Please do not flame here. Some people would treasure this video. :!:
YodaSnipe
OMG that acc is so horrible. People should really not listen to this dude, won't help you at all. If you wanna get better at streaming do exactly like kriers said, that's pretty much what I do and any stream that I can keep up with is probably going to be 98-100% acc.
Mesita
shouldn't a rythm game be more about accuracy?
Well, i hope this tutorial helps someone in the future, but in my experience, if you wanna get faster fingers then you have to start playing faster songs all day untill you get them.
Salvage
Yep, accuracy > speed all the way, everyone should understand this first before wanting to be cookiezi.
silmarilen
this topic isnt about accuracy, its about speed.
if you think this video is crap because you get a low accuracy go make your own topic about streaming high speed with good accuracy, this is about just streaming high speed and not caring about accuracy.
Drafura

silmarilen wrote:

this topic isnt about accuracy, its about speed.
if you think this video is crap because you get a low accuracy go make your own topic about streaming high speed with good accuracy, this is about just streaming high speed and not caring about accuracy.
Maybe people think this is not the good way to become an accurate streamer. I mean, it's ok for speed but who really want to have only speed ? The next step should be accuarcy + speed and starting with this training may not be right for the final objective...
aRtii-
just play everyday
Agnes
Not even gonna fully participate in this conversation. But holy shit.

It's osu!. Not Osu!. :I
kriers

Agnes wrote:

It's osu!. Not Osu!. :I
Pff that is so pedantic. Who cares?
Agnes

kriers wrote:

Agnes wrote:

It's osu!. Not Osu!. :I
Pff that is so pedantic. Who cares?
I doooo.

Besides, it's not gonna be my problem once Rena-chan enters the thread about this guy's skill.
Cho_old
Being able to pass a stream no matter your accuracy is better than not being able to do it atall.

<-- 140bpm limit for 10 months now.
Kanye West

Cho wrote:

Being able to pass a stream no matter your accuracy is better than not being able to do it atall.

<-- 140bpm limit for 10 months now.
"Passing" streams is not hard.

Step 1. Line up your cursor properly
Step 2. Insert face on keyboard (or mouse).
Step 3. Roll face back and forth.

Only hard part about streams is being able to play them accurately (with all 300's).
kriers

Agnes wrote:

Rena-chan
Call the firefighters! Flame incoming! /o/
Natteke

kanye west wrote:

Cho wrote:

Being able to pass a stream no matter your accuracy is better than not being able to do it atall.

<-- 140bpm limit for 10 months now.
"Passing" streams is not hard.

Step 1. Line up your cursor properly
Step 2. Insert face on keyboard (or mouse).
Step 3. Roll face back and forth.

Only hard part about streams is being able to play them accurately (with all 300's).
That's exactly how I do it!
Cho_old
If "Passing" streams isn't hard then clearly I've missed something, because to me 150bpm+ is just impossible.
kriers

Cho wrote:

If "Passing" streams isn't hard then clearly I've missed something, because to me 150bpm+ is just impossible.
stop whining. Not everyone is bound to get good at this game.
Try a new peripheral?
Or maybe revise your technique.

Possibilities are endless!
Jenny

kriers wrote:

if you wanna get good: find a comfortable streaming technique -> master lower bpm like 120-140 bpm (mastery = 98-100% accuracy on od8) -> use this technique on higher bpm and sync your fingers to all kinds of paces
120-170 BPM 100%, 170-190 >97%, 200-210 >95% ;w;
Topic Starter
higurush
Okay then. Let's imagine a song which is very fast, have nice spacing and timing with perfect jumps, but the beatmap comes to a streampart that you can't do normally. You find yourself troubled, annoyed, you are in great anger that you can't stream faster to not to miss that streampart. If you do one of the techniques this vid shows you, that fits to that beatmap's part you could pass that stream. After all, passing is better than missing right? Your accuracy at the end will still be around 95-98% and the FCing is not a problem within.

On the other hand, you could gain this advantage in 1 day. It's faster than practicing a whole month to get you fingers faster. Most of the players are playing this game as a hobby. They just want to have some fun, but there are parts in beatmaps that could ruin their fun. They don't have time to practice day by day. They need something like a miracle that helps them instantly.

That is what this video about.
kriers

higurush wrote:

Okay then. Let's imagine a song which is very fast, have nice spacing and timing with perfect jumps, but the beatmap comes to a streampart that you can't do normally. You find yourself troubled, annoyed, you are in great anger that you can't stream faster to not to miss that streampart. If you do one of the techniques this vid shows you, that fits to that beatmap's part you could pass that stream. After all, passing is better than missing right? Your accuracy at the end will still be around 95-98% and the FCing is not a problem within.
That is like taking a shortcut into a realm you don't belong to. If you keep taking shortcuts, you will possibly cut off your ability to do streams the proper way and you could end up stuck at 200 bpm+

higurush wrote:

On the other hand, you could gain this advantage in 1 day. It's faster than practicing a whole month to get you fingers faster. Most of the players are playing this game as a hobby. They just want to have some fun, but there are parts in beatmaps that could ruin their fun. They don't have time to practice day by day. They need something like a miracle that helps them instantly.

That is what this video about.
Yeah ok if that's all there is to it from your part, then be my guest. I know people who regard this game for nothing more than a game to increase reflexes and don't give a single thought towards accuracy even despite the fact that this is a rythm game :(
Compared to those, you're not even close to as bad since you're just trying to get better.

Anyways. Good luck with that and it's nice that you want to share your discovery with others, but really, no thanks.
Topic Starter
higurush

kriers wrote:

That is like taking a shortcut into a realm you don't belong to. If you keep taking shortcuts, you will possibly cut off your ability to do streams the proper way and you could end up stuck at 200 bpm+
Taking shotcuts always make disadvantages for you. But well, I can do 230 bpm streams. Developing time was around 2 weeks, but it can be learned in 1 day. Insant boost up in 2 weeks. That's what I need. Before I developed this thing I could barely do 150 bpm longstreams. Now its up to my mood how much bpm I want to do : )
Isn't this fine for a hobbyst? I just want to enjoy the song, this freaking good game. Isn't all the rythm games about? :d

kriers wrote:

Yeah ok if that's all there is to it from your part, then be my guest. I know people who regard this game for nothing more than a game to increase reflexes and don't give a single thought towards accuracy even despite the fact that this is a rythm game :(
Yeah, accuracy matters for a rythm game too, but not everyone could SS every map. I mean its enough to get 95-98% acc on a map.
kriers

higurush wrote:

kriers wrote:

That is like taking a shortcut into a realm you don't belong to. If you keep taking shortcuts, you will possibly cut off your ability to do streams the proper way and you could end up stuck at 200 bpm+
Taking shotcuts always make disadvantages for you. But well, I can do 230 bpm streams. Developing time was around 2 weeks, but it can be learned in 1 day. Insant boost up in 2 weeks. That's what I need. Before I developed this thing I could barely do 150 bpm longstreams. Now its up to my mood how much bpm I want to do : )
Isn't this fine for a hobbyst? I just want to enjoy the song, this freaking good game. Isn't all the rythm games about? :d
how can you know it only takes 2 weeks? save 1 day!?
Say if I find some new technique to work at and share it with my friends, I always end up with the most benefits in the shortest amount of time, simply because I'm a better player >_>
Topic Starter
higurush

kriers wrote:

how can you know it only takes 2 weeks? save 1 day!?
I mean I developed the technique in 2 weeks, but most of the people could learn this in 1 day. Say what, I save time for them, while I am making sweat for it. And just share this for free.

What do I get for it?
  1. 10% Thank You
  2. 30% General stuff
  3. 60% Flame, bullying, etc.
Does it worth the time?
  1. As a player? - Yes
  2. As a person? - No
kriers

higurush wrote:

What do I get for it?
  1. 10% Thank You
  2. 30% General stuff
  3. 60% Flame, bullying, etc.
but I did discoveries like these too. You know what I did? I kept my mouth shut, because I knew things like these would happen :>
Topic Starter
higurush

kriers wrote:

but I did discoveries like these too. You know what I did? I kept my mouth shut, because I knew things like these would happen :>
Don't be a zombie. Don't be just one of the people. Be yourself. Don't be scared of flaming. Let your thoughts out. It's natural that some people won't agree with you. But you could help others. Isn't that a precious feeling you would treasure? Just be proud of yourself that you are not "one of those".

If everybody would shut their mouth, then where would the world lead to?
Flanster
lol, ill try these techinuqes, even though my mouse cant aim for shit \:D/
Kanye West

Lolicore Flandre wrote:

lol, ill try these techinuqes, even though my mouse cant aim for shit \:D/
Blame the player, not the equipment xD
Topic Starter
higurush

Lolicore Flandre wrote:

lol, ill try these techinuqes, even though my mouse cant aim for shit \:D/
The aimgod may guide you on your shoulders! :D
kriers

higurush wrote:

kriers wrote:

but I did discoveries like these too. You know what I did? I kept my mouth shut, because I knew things like these would happen :>
Don't be a zombie. Don't be just one of the people. Be yourself. Don't be scared of flaming. Let your thoughts out. It's natural that some people won't agree with you. But you could help others. Isn't that a precious feeling you would treasure? Just be proud of yourself that you are not "one of those".

If everybody would shut their mouth, then where would the world lead to?
what. Yeah, but I still made sure I had something useful to say first \:D/
Topic Starter
higurush

kriers wrote:

what. Yeah, but I still made sure I had something useful to say first \:D/
How mysterious you are 8D :D
Waryas
Yo the true technique is to play dt on high bpm songs who have lots of single tap and only a few 260+bpm streams, smash both fingers same time for those, here free top10 for a dt than only a few players can do and accuracy dont matter cause its only like 20 notes out of 800 sometimes!!!

I AM SMART
Flanster

kanye west wrote:

Lolicore Flandre wrote:

lol, ill try these techinuqes, even though my mouse cant aim for shit \:D/
Blame the player, not the equipment xD
Try my broken optical mouse, then talk.actually I dont want anyone to touch it,its hell

Over 6 months ago I was reaching my skill peak with an accuracy of 99.18, then this mouse screwed up and i struggled until now im at 98.89

need a tablet I dont trust mice anymore orz
kriers

higurush wrote:

kriers wrote:

what. Yeah, but I still made sure I had something useful to say first \:D/
How mysterious you are 8D :D
Really? I'm just saying that I waited a long time before I started visiting the forums. I never open up topics in forums, though, mostly because I keep my ideas to myself and friends and also because it's enough to add a little wisdom here and there without making a whole thread about a single idea.
Topic Starter
higurush

kriers wrote:

Really? I'm just saying that I waited a long time before I started visiting the forums. I never open up topics in forums, though, mostly because I keep my ideas to myself and friends and also because it's enough to add a little wisdom here and there without making a whole thread about a single idea.
Off-topic?


Have you read this part of the main post?
  1. higurush wrote:

    :!: Please do not flame here. Some people would treasure this video. :!:
Your comments started to become a bit offensive, rather than ideas with wisdom. It is far more than "I disagree, I know something better" part.
Please stop being an "Ojou-sama".
kriers
lol ok
Mismagius
I still think as a tapper that accuracy < speed

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/10112

this is not exactly about speed but you get my point
Cyclohexane
So I kinda skimmed through the thread because it had a lot of bitching that I didn't care about apparently, but I just wanna ask this:

I can be pretty damn accurate on slow streams up to, let's say, 140bpm. Past that limit, my fingers just can't keep up on long streams anymore. I've tried many key setups and techniques, but it always seems to fail me at around 140bpm. I use the keyboard on my netbook (don't have anything else really except for a standard hama USB keyboard). Should I keep practicing, should I get better equipment or is it just me who's slow? You can see that 2 stream maps are my most played maps, I have drilled them A LOT. I don't tend to notice much improvement though. However I was able to get a C rank on MENDES and a B rank on Himiko, which believe it or not, is pretty damn badass for my standards.

The video was very interesting, sadly these were techniques I already tried and thought of, they were definitely clever but I couldn't put them to use efficiently, unfortunately.
Tom69_old
For a Rank you need an FC (or at least a high Combo), for the FC you need the speed. So why the hell be bitchy about 2-3% Accuracy and sacrifice a potential Rank? Of course depends if you want the Score or the Accuracy. :/

Same thing the other way round: If you FC but get a low accuracy you might not get the Rank. But srsly guys... at long 230+ BPM Streams (only parts where you really need DoubleTapping) there probably aren't more than 10 FCs. And those usually got a way worse accuracy. Ever tried streaming Mad Machine normally? I bet you get an even worse accuracy than with DoubleTapping as you will be getting waaaay more 100s and 50s.
(Well, if your name is jesse1412 or whoever can stream 270 BPM ignore this)

If these Techniques are 'Shortcuts' then what's wrong about using them? If you want to improve other techniques you can just play them instead...


It's clear for me: Trade accuracy for an FC or don't. That's everyone's own decision; no need to flame.



Ohh and btw.
@ about 240+ BPM Doubletapping doesn't even yield 100s if done correctly, just in case you wanna keep the high accuracy.
(Of course depends on OD... but I can get 99.XX% and nearly FC on http://osu.ppy.sh/s/32883 . Could I without DoubleTapping? No, both accuracy and combo would be way worse.)
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