2015-09-15 01:57 Bearizm: What's the problem? :c
2015-09-15 01:57 Natsu: no mods
2015-09-15 01:57 Natsu: an intended speed rank by circlejerking?
2015-09-15 01:57 Bearizm: but I did receive a lot of feedback when it was unsubmitted
2015-09-15 01:57 Bearizm: i.e: Mazzerin, Asphyxia, and some friends you prolly don't know.
2015-09-15 01:58 Natsu: and no one provide it to the thread
2015-09-15 01:58 Bearizm: they were small changes
2015-09-15 01:58 Bearizm: as the feedback is positive
2015-09-15 01:58 Bearizm: Asphyxia suggested a huge one tho
2015-09-15 01:58 Bearizm: he made me remap some parts in the kiai
2015-09-15 01:59 Bearizm: there was a huge spike in the end, so i had to change it.
2015-09-15 01:59 Natsu: ya but by not posting the logs
2015-09-15 01:59 Bearizm: huge sudden spike*
2015-09-15 01:59 Natsu: seems that just pishifat did mod it
2015-09-15 01:59 Bearizm: idk, it was 3 days before it was submitted
2015-09-15 02:00 Bearizm: you can confirm with asphyxia that he said the kiai was overdone and he said it seems that i mapped for the sake of pp, which it looks like I do a while back.
2015-09-15 02:00 Bearizm: He didn't tell me to remap it, but his feedback suggests me to change it, so i did. and now it builds up accordingly.
2015-09-15 02:01 Bearizm: I believe that there's no reason to complain about speedranking. If you can, why not? It'll only add more beatmaps into the game.
2015-09-15 02:01 Natsu: ya I'll try atleast to give some feedback
2015-09-15 02:01 Bearizm: ok.. xd
2015-09-15 02:11 Bearizm: we can irc if you want
2015-09-15 02:11 Bearizm: actually, i'd prefer it if you thread it xd
2015-09-15 02:12 Natsu: I'll post, I'm bit slow when modding
2015-09-15 02:12 Bearizm: ah it's fine c:
2015-09-15 04:36 Bearizm: I applied one of them..
2015-09-15 04:36 Bearizm: Idk, I just have this map planned.
2015-09-15 04:36 Bearizm: sorry about the declines.. you shouldn't deny that kd
2015-09-15 04:38 Bearizm: pls, I'm not a bad person. Don't make me look like one :c
2015-09-15 04:38 Natsu: I should cause lol
2015-09-15 04:39 Bearizm: hmm?
2015-09-15 04:39 Bearizm: Don't take it personally, please.
2015-09-15 04:39 Natsu: U are one of the people that complain about overmap,, but now u justify the triplets, ¨everyone does¨
2015-09-15 04:39 Natsu: also wasn't a full mod
2015-09-15 04:39 Bearizm: Yes.
2015-09-15 04:39 Bearizm: Yea :p
2015-09-15 04:39 Bearizm: but isn't it true that people do it and they actually get away with it.
2015-09-15 04:40 Bearizm: if a QAT DQ'd for overmapping and it's actually true, then don't blame them
2015-09-15 04:40 Natsu: yes and that just make sounds a bit hypocrital to post in other maps about it no?
2015-09-15 04:40 Bearizm: I wasn't complaining about overmapping, I was complaining about how QATs gets shitted on because they pointed out that several parts are overmapped.
2015-09-15 04:41 Bearizm: unless the overmapping is blatant. like Skystar's licca
2015-09-15 04:41 Natsu: skystar rarely overmap tbh
2015-09-15 04:41 Natsu: also u should atleast remove the white tick triplet
2015-09-15 04:42 Bearizm: you sure? xd
2015-09-15 04:42 Bearizm: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/647844 Qrispy Joybox - licca]
2015-09-15 04:42 Bearizm: 01:20:221 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
2015-09-15 04:42 Bearizm: 01:22:670 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
2015-09-15 04:42 Bearizm: also, he used a lot of triples in the second kiai.
2015-09-15 04:42 Natsu: why u bring me other maps lol
2015-09-15 04:42 Bearizm: when they're not there.
2015-09-15 04:42 Bearizm: Because you said Skystar rarely overmap xd
2015-09-15 04:42 Bearizm: what do you mean white tick triplet?
2015-09-15 04:42 Bearizm: they start in red
2015-09-15 04:43 Bearizm: and what's wrong with that anyways.. it's the song. there are sounds of triplets (drums) there :p
2015-09-15 04:43 Natsu: 01:25:071 (2,3,4) -
2015-09-15 04:43 Bearizm: or actually, ye one of them starts in white tick
2015-09-15 04:43 Bearizm: but that's the song..
2015-09-15 04:44 Natsu: that overmap triplets are usually justify ¨by adding more emphasis to the white sound¨
2015-09-15 04:44 Bearizm: but that part isn't overmapped....
2015-09-15 04:44 Bearizm: you can hear the triple sound there
2015-09-15 04:44 Bearizm: it's almost inaudible but they're there
2015-09-15 04:44 Bearizm: it's just like Asphyxia's United.
2015-09-15 04:44 Bearizm: triples are almost inaudible but they're there, correct? nobody complained, but when I complained, i get a lot of hate for it.
2015-09-15 04:45 Bearizm: Me and asphyxia is cool tho.
2015-09-15 04:45 Natsu: cause ofg the way u did it maybe?
2015-09-15 04:45 Natsu: I didn't know that map so I can't give my opinion on it
2015-09-15 04:45 Bearizm: you mean overdone?
2015-09-15 04:45 Bearizm: 01:24:532 (2) -
2015-09-15 04:45 Bearizm: 01:25:071 (2) -
2015-09-15 04:45 Bearizm: 01:25:610 (2) -
2015-09-15 04:45 Bearizm: there's a constant increase of distance there
2015-09-15 04:46 Natsu: triplet will sound better 01:24:982 - tbh
2015-09-15 04:46 Bearizm: those are just to emphasis the song's background. it sounds higher and higher every time
2015-09-15 04:46 Bearizm: but the song suggests otherwise
there's no triplet there.
2015-09-15 04:46 Bearizm: also about hitsounds
2015-09-15 04:47 Bearizm: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/533048 eyelis - Mirai e no Tobira (OVA EDIT)]
2015-09-15 04:47 Natsu: 01:23:994 (3,1) - this should have higher spacing than
2015-09-15 04:47 Bearizm: ^ this is Rizia's version
2015-09-15 04:47 Natsu: 01:24:353 (1,2) -
2015-09-15 04:47 Bearizm: hmm
2015-09-15 04:47 Natsu: mean u explain why not?
2015-09-15 04:48 Bearizm: huh? because if i make that closer, it would feel like an anti jump since the DS used constantly gets bigger
2015-09-15 04:48 Natsu: 01:24:712 (4,1,2) - same
2015-09-15 04:48 Natsu: 01:25:251 (4,1,2) - this one is worst
2015-09-15 04:48 Bearizm: also, 01:24:353 (1) - whether if this has higher DS or not, it shouldn't matter because the previous object is a slider, it's easy to hit it.
2015-09-15 04:48 Natsu: and actually 1 the stongest beat is like antijump at this part
2015-09-15 04:49 Bearizm: if anything, i should move 01:23:994 (3) -
2015-09-15 04:49 Natsu: ya that's why it should have more distance 1 stronger sound and previous object is a slider
2015-09-15 04:49 Bearizm: and 01:25:431 (1) -
2015-09-15 04:49 Natsu: yes atleast do that
2015-09-15 04:50 Bearizm: ok.
2015-09-15 05:02 Bearizm: ok so..
2015-09-15 05:03 Natsu: ?
2015-09-15 05:03 Bearizm: i made the triplet jumps consistent
2015-09-15 05:03 Bearizm: MORE, consistent.
2015-09-15 05:03 Natsu: that's cool
2015-09-15 05:03 Bearizm: arrghh
2015-09-15 05:04 Bearizm: alright then, that was nice.
2015-09-15 05:04 Bearizm: again, you could post this chat in thread if you want.
2015-09-15 05:04 Bearizm: I'll KD, i mean, you did help.
2015-09-15 05:04 Natsu: XD
2015-09-15 05:04 Bearizm: and I'm sorry if I'm stubborn
2015-09-15 05:04 Bearizm: I know I am xd
2015-09-15 05:05 Natsu: u can post that if you want,
2015-09-15 05:05 Natsu: and yes u begin a bit with the: I feel like the quality within this map is sufficient enough to be qualified, so why not. not to sound so cocky b
2015-09-15 05:05 Bearizm: well it is.
2015-09-15 05:06 Bearizm: it was only a slight revision to how i did it
2015-09-15 05:06 Natsu: I think that every map can still improve with more modding, but if you feel that is right to qualify it without much feedback and other BNs agree with that its fine
2015-09-15 05:06 Bearizm: Ok... again, please post this chat to the thread xd
2015-09-15 05:07 Bearizm: I don't want to deny your kd after all that checking.
2015-09-15 05:07 Bearizm: just edit your post or something i'll kd that post once you edit it.
2015-09-15 05:09 Bearizm: no?
2015-09-15 05:09 Natsu: I'll edit later,or u post it tho
2015-09-15 05:10 Bearizm: i'll just KD your last post.
2015-09-15 05:15 Bearizm: thank you for the check..
2015-09-15 05:15 Bearizm: I hope I don't leave a bad impression of myself to you xd
2015-09-15 05:16 Natsu: mmmm not really, but just look you like doesn't matter what u want to speedrank it without feedback xD
2015-09-15 05:16 Bearizm: whoa..
2015-09-15 05:16 Bearizm: I did get feedback.
2015-09-15 05:17 Bearizm: You have no idea how many finished unsubmitted maps I have, and I ask for a testplays and feedback from them.
2015-09-15 05:17 Natsu: but you can prove it? that's the problem
2015-09-15 05:18 Bearizm: sure
2015-09-15 05:18 Bearizm: prove the unsubmitted maps or the feedback?
2015-09-15 05:18 Bearizm: well i don't save the logs
2015-09-15 05:18 Bearizm: but asphyxia did
2015-09-15 05:18 Bearizm: because i said "time to experiment with QAT's diff spike leniency"
2015-09-15 05:18 Bearizm: this was before I changed a lot of things in the jump
2015-09-15 05:18 Natsu: see that's the problem will be ok if they post logs or siomething, but is like no feedback to me :l
2015-09-15 05:18 Bearizm: s
2015-09-15 05:19 Bearizm: but the map wasn't submitted..
2015-09-15 05:19 Bearizm: you can ask Pandiar, Mazzerin, javagame100, fallist (great players these 2), pkhg, samplefish, handsome, pishi
2015-09-15 05:19 Bearizm: those guys tested my maps before it was submitted.
2015-09-15 05:20 Bearizm: this map was finished 3 days ago. so only pishi saved the log because he tested 1 day before the submission.
2015-09-15 05:20 Bearizm: and he said he was going to bubble it so...
2015-09-15 05:21 Natsu: but I dont see nothing worng to get some more people to brintg their suggestions
2015-09-15 05:22 Bearizm: it's not. I never said it is, but some maps don't need them.
2015-09-15 05:22 Bearizm: I'm saying that it's not very necessary
2015-09-15 05:23 Bearizm: some people can rank stuff fast, some cannot.
2015-09-15 05:24 Natsu: yes I can probably do a tv size map every day and rank it as well
2015-09-15 05:25 Natsu: but that's real good?
2015-09-15 05:25 Bearizm: sure
2015-09-15 05:25 Bearizm: why not?
2015-09-15 05:25 Bearizm: as long as it's good enough.. the thing is.. I don't map for people. I map for myself xd
2015-09-15 05:26 Natsu: ya but idk i feel it wrong tho
2015-09-15 05:27 Bearizm: that's not a valid answer... Some people choose to rank things fast, some don't. Those who can, probably do it. Like captin, or Milan. I don't see you complaining in their threads :c
2015-09-15 05:27 Bearizm: Why me?
2015-09-15 05:27 Natsu: if u see im too busy modding alot, to complain at every map
2015-09-15 05:27 Bearizm: LOL xd
2015-09-15 05:27 Natsu: I just was looking at bubble maps to qualify something lol
2015-09-15 05:28 Natsu: and saw yours was a random
2015-09-15 05:28 Bearizm: oooh
2015-09-15 05:29 Bearizm: well
2015-09-15 05:29 Natsu: and I was like wut
2015-09-15 05:29 Natsu: ranking system is not going well here
2015-09-15 05:29 Bearizm: xd
2015-09-15 05:30 Bearizm: what
2015-09-15 05:30 Bearizm: alright then. I guess it's not wrong to look from your perspective, but simply saying that "speedranking is bad because it FEELS wrong" doesn't justify your point.
2015-09-15 05:30 Bearizm: yea it's never bad to look for MORE feedback, but when does it end?
2015-09-15 05:30 Natsu: speedranking isn't bad lol
2015-09-15 05:31 Bearizm: well then what is it?
2015-09-15 05:31 Bearizm: because that's what i'm getting from you :c
2015-09-15 05:31 Natsu: probably with more feedback like 4 mods atleast lol and 4 hours old map I'll not care
2015-09-15 05:31 Natsu: my problem is not how old is the map is the lack of mods
2015-09-15 05:31 Bearizm: ah lol
2015-09-15 05:31 Natsu: mods are suggestions nothing more nothing less
2015-09-15 05:31 Natsu: so u basically upload at map get opinions then rank
2015-09-15 05:32 Natsu: so you are missing the opinions part
2015-09-15 05:32 Bearizm: Well, it's not like BNs don't check your map.
2015-09-15 05:32 Bearizm: BNs check maps before bubbling, if it's ok then bubble/qualify, if it's not, then it's modded.
2015-09-15 05:32 Bearizm: I'm sure you know that lol
2015-09-15 05:33 Natsu: yes, but that isn't moral correct lol
2015-09-15 05:33 Natsu: I can do pretty much the same with a friend map lol, but is that correct?
2015-09-15 05:34 Natsu: even old mappers with great experiece alwats get feedback before moving their map fowards
2015-09-15 05:34 Bearizm: why not? I don't need people's opinion for my map lol. their opinion will be shown in the map ratings don't even matter most of the time.