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AnFace


well okay


loctav you did this didn't you
Lover
France 16-0 gg
karterfreak

AnFace wrote:



well okay


loctav you did this didn't you
Why yes, yes he did. He pretty much fucked up the entire brackets with seedings that make no sense, yay!
Trash Boat
lol
wait
what?
Nashmun

Tasha wrote:

AnFace wrote:



well okay


loctav you did this didn't you
Why yes, yes he did. He pretty much fucked up the entire brackets with seedings that make no sense, yay!
It's not like it's totally random, I personally think 1vs 4 and 2vs3 would have been better, but this is still totally acceptable.
Love
there the hell is the bracket anyways
karterfreak

Nashmun wrote:

It's not like it's totally random, I personally think 1vs 4 and 2vs3 would have been better, but this is still totally acceptable.
1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3 is kinda how seeds work but I'm done arguing this point, it's like beating a dead horse at this point.
OnosakiHito
RO16 Mappool is (since yesterday) out. Check out the wiki for more information.

Information:
  1. 22 different mappers
    - 2x: OnosakiHito
    - 1x: TW-KUMA01, Alace, Sushi, ignorethis, Lundlerol, mingmichael, Nashmun, [Shalon], NatsumeRin, Firce777, lolcubes, _Gezo_, lepidopodus, MoonFragrance, tsuka, wmfchris, kanpakyin, KanaRin, climbb65588, TKSalt, Mapper_31
  2. Genres / game / etc.: instrumental, country, japanese, anime, english, classic, vocaloid, k-pop, rock, touhou, BMS
  3. Song lenght: 13 x 1 minute, 6 x 2 minutes, 3 x 3 minutes, 1 x 6 minutes
  4. 4 maps used in previous TWCs
Mappool contains various maps which requier different skills, such as:
  1. reading finishers
  2. playing streams
  3. (dealing with SV changes)
  4. beeing able to play faster songs
  5. (stamina)
  6. tricky patterns
  7. 1/6 game play.
Formation:

  1. NoMod: From easier maps(top) to the harder maps (bottom), approximately.
  2. HD / HR: Contains one longer map
  3. DT: One slower BPM map.
  4. FM: Should be fair for all three play kinds (NM/HD/HR)
    - 1# BPM 190 - finisher usage
    - 2# BPM 178 - common map
    - 3# BPM 180 - 1/6 notes
    - 4# BPM 168 - long map + stream
You are always able to PM me in forum new maps. Preferable your own map, since you know how you mapped it and want to show me your best work.
I hope you like the mappools. Good luck to all participants!

Previous announcement; http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2845635
Acrith
Upload it in one pack, please...
Marcin

Acrith wrote:

Upload it in one pack, please...
No one poked me. Doing so right now.
Yuzeyun

OnosakiHito wrote:

  1. 22 different mappers
    [...], _Gezo_,
Well that was unexpected.
DarkStoorM
So, let's get the party started with new mappool xD
Nashmun
Ohgod, one of my maps picked again \:D/

btw, we have the schedule for next week but we still haven't seen the bracket yet, any news ?
Nwolf
http://puu.sh/6PQ3E/2d9507d84b.png

posted by loctav yesterday in #taiko
Nashmun
Yeah I know but I was expecting something we can actually read.
AnFace

Nashmun wrote:

Yeah I know but I was expecting something we can actually read.
http://tournaments.hiroto.eu/

i assume it's the group letter and ranking number within the group
karterfreak
I took the liberty of making brackets using Loctav's strange methods of seeding for those who actually want to see them some time in the near future.

http://challonge.com/TWC2014
Acrith

OnosakiHito wrote:

RO16 Mappool is (since yesterday) out. Check out the wiki for more information.

Information:
  1. 22 different mappers
    - 2x: OnosakiHito
    - 1x: TW-KUMA01, Alace, Sushi, ignorethis, Lundlerol, mingmichael, Nashmun, [Shalon], NatsumeRin, Firce777, lolcubes, _Gezo_, lepidopodus, MoonFragrance, tsuka, wmfchris, kanpakyin, KanaRin, climbb65588, TKSalt, Mapper_31
  2. Genres / game / etc.: instrumental, country, japanese, anime, english, classic, vocaloid, k-pop, rock, touhou, BMS
  3. Song lenght: 13 x 1 minute, 6 x 2 minutes, 3 x 3 minutes, 1 x 6 minutes
  4. All maps are the first time in use (no previous TWC)
Are you sure about Gangnam Style? (TWC#3 Group Stage) o/
And Paradise LOST? (TWC#2 Group Stage)
And Babylon? (TWC#3 Group Stage)
OnosakiHito
Yeah, I got informed about this before. I forgot about the older TWCs, but most guys didn't played the map anyway, so it should be fine.
Nashmun
So, from now all matches are going to be streamed on the official twitch channel, right ?
OnosakiHito
Probably. If not, I will be here for all matches.
Krah
There is a clear lack of cool banner here.






EDIT : typo fixed
Nashmun

Krah wrote:

There is a clear lack of cool banner here.



<3
Luna
Why does France always have the greatest banners for any event ever?
Who do you hire to design them?
DarkStoorM
Hey, US!
;DDDDDDDDDD
We will remember

[edit] That wild Skype sound xD
Nashmun

Luna wrote:

Why does France always have the greatest banners for any event ever?
Who do you hire to design them?
Don't worry Luna, I made one just for you :



*Hides*
OnosakiHito
Oh, nice that they are not skipping the... beginning.
Haha Nashmun
Luna

Nashmun wrote:

Luna wrote:

Why does France always have the greatest banners for any event ever?
Who do you hire to design them?
Don't worry Luna, I made one just for you :



*Hides*
glorious
however,
Nashmun


hurr, purrfect size

or extra wide :
LZD
lol best designer ever nash xD
[TaikoTori]

Nashmun wrote:

10/10 would use again, thx Nash
DarkStoorM
Sup Germany
FlyingKiwi
It's still cool even you put random pics. BTW, could you please live stream all the matches next year...
Nashmun
These are not random pics ;_;
DarkDunskin
Th1s is so aw3sum!
Stash-Moon gud ideaaaa!
Greatest banner evaaa :D
Cyclohexane
I might as well say this here so you guys can know in advance.

I will be there to commentate the matches on Saturday, but not Sunday. Sorry about that. I have to celebrate my father's birthday and I'll be taken pretty much the entire day.
Topic Starter
Loctav
I am sure OnosakiHito will cover up your loss on Sunday. With his cute English
Cyclohexane
He's the map selector anyway, so he probably knows a lot more than I do when it comes to the TWC in general.
I'm just here to drive hype trains
AnFace


i'm ready
lolcubes

Mr Color wrote:

I'll be taken pretty much the entire day.
Should I call Liam Neeson?
Luna
gg Hong Kong too strong
Please delete all video evidence of me playing that Hidden map, that totally didn't happen *coughcough*
Nashmun
Poor Luna ;_;

Don't worry, you're still pro :3
Taadashi

Luna wrote:

gg Hong Kong too strong
Please delete all video evidence of me playing that Hidden map, that totally didn't happen *coughcough*
*pats*
Luna
Random fun fact: Broken and Tori are no better than me on that map :'D
Nashmun
Thanks to all the UK team for this awesome match, every game was so close I almost had an heart attack :<

Really good job guys <3
karterfreak
Grats to Spain.

edit: I stand corrected. Right at the bottom of course... The rule still makes no sense though.
[ Lilith ]
RIP in peace Canada.
Topic Starter
Loctav

Tasha wrote:

Grats to Spain.

Oh, and by the way. There's nothing in the rules stating that 2v3's are not allowed. The only mentions of 3v3 are that it is a 3v3 tournament and that you need 3 players to participate in the tournament (which is under REGISTRATION), and that a match may only be postponed 10 minutes if there is not 3 players on a team. It does not say to disqualify them if they do not have 3 players during the match.





sorry tho
Topic Starter
Loctav
Greetings everybody, official notice incoming.
After sorting out the issue with Canada vs Spain with the game administration, we decided to give Canada the chance to rematch this game. Please keep in mind that this is an exceptional decision since one player of the Canadian team didn't attend to the match in time because he mixed up the time zones (I hate time zones, seriously).

So then, Canada is given the chance to rearrange a rematch against Spain, which must happen until Tuesday, 18th Feb 2014 23:59:59 UTC. Yet, the Spanish team must agree that they want to rematch it.
It might also be that we can not cover this rematch with a stream, due to organizational limitations, and if we cover it, we can not announce it largely before.

Anyways, for the potential opponent, Japan, we will only schedule one date for both encounters. This means that Japan does not have to pay attention to the winner of the rematch, since the scheduled time will stay the same, regardless of who wins that match.

Please don't that for granted. This has been decided to bring optimal results in measuring the this year's Taiko World Cup champion by skill and not by mistakes resulting out of time zone confusion.

If the rematch is not able to happen before the said deadline, the previous decision will stay and Canada still loses by default against Spain.

I hope this compromises pleases everyone, the participants, the administration and the audience. Let's keep the world cup running. Sorry for the inconveniences.

Schedules and mappool will be released by tonight. And oh yes, I wanted to post a bracket. The wiki hates everyone right now, so here - have a sexy bracket (still RO16 but whatever)

karterfreak
Going to be attempting to get in contact with Spain as soon as possible. Hopefully they're willing to have the match still.

edit: Spain is unable to make a match during the weekday. Canada is officially out.
Topic Starter
Loctav
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... _web#gid=5

So there we go with the next match schedule and mappool. Until the wiki is fixed, you can look up the current information right in the document instead. I am going to update the wiki as soon as it gets accessible again.
OnosakiHito
Q-Finals Mappool is out. Check out following link: p/2876346.

Information:
  1. 20 different mappers
    - 2x: TW-KUMA01, MMzz
    - 1x: KinomiCandy, OnosakiHito, Loctav, Pheon, aabc271, littlecar3370, biwako, Mapper_31, lolcubes, TKSalt, Fraolinch, Kayesara, climbb65588, Kurosanyan, lepidopodus, OzzyOzrock, Rokodo, Love
  2. Genres / game / etc.: happycore, rock, classic, electronic, instrumental, anime, jpn folk, vocaloid, english, touhou, japanese
  3. Song length: 9 x 1 minute, 8 x 2 minutes, 2 x 3 minutes, 3 x 4 minutes, 1 x 7 minutes
  4. X maps used in previous TWCs
Mappool contains various maps which require different skills, such as:
  1. reading finishers
  2. playing streams
  3. low BPM
  4. 1/3 gameplay
  5. reading skill on low BPM maps with HD
  6. reading skill on high BPM maps with HR
  7. accuracy
Formation:

  1. NoMod: From easier maps(top) to the harder maps (bottom), approximately.
  2. HD: Low BPM maps
  3. HR: High BPM maps
  4. DT: From easier maps(top) to the harder maps (bottom), approximately.
  5. FM: Should be fair for all three play kinds (NM/HD/HR)
    - 1# BPM 180 - common map
    - 2# BPM 200 - odd patterns
    - 3# BPM 175 - 1/6 notes
    - 4# BPM 130 - high acc skill required
You are always able to PM me in forum new maps. Preferable your own map, since you know how you mapped it and want to show me your best work.
I hope you like the mappools. Good luck to all participants!

Previous announcement: p/2860918
Fraolinch
omai wat
OnosakiHito
Everyone so suprised.

Nwolf
Igorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Tewiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii(x2)
Dragons
IVALTEK
inside identity
snow prism
Demetori (somebody please play a tie, thx)

this map pool is perfect kk


btw, 3 maps in previous twcs
Yuzeyun

OnosakiHito wrote:

[*]HD: Low BPM maps =>100-130 bpm, what hardly anyone can play
[*]HR: High BPM maps => 190-220 bpm, which is not uncommon to see
at least include 230+ BPM maps in HR to make it balanced :(
Love

Nwolf wrote:

Igorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Tewiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii(x2)
Dragons
IVALTEK
inside identity
snow prism
Demetori (somebody please play a tie, thx)

this map pool is perfect kk


btw, 3 maps in previous twcs
yw for that demetori map
OnosakiHito
@^: Next time suggest your maps a little earlier please. Haha
Nashmun
Any news about that Canada vs Spain match ?
Dess1210

Tasha wrote:

Going to be attempting to get in contact with Spain as soon as possible. Hopefully they're willing to have the match still.

edit: Spain is unable to make a match during the weekday. Canada is officially out.
Nashmun ^
Topic Starter
Loctav
Updated the wiki
.late

Canada lost by default because they were unable to arrange a rematch in time. Just as notification~
Nashmun
Good Game Malaysia, that was a good match ! :3

May Keluang Man be with you guys <3
taiko_maniac1811
lol Nashmun xD
btw great game France :3
was lots of fun although we lost ww

We wish the advancing team good luck :3
Jerry
Awesome match France, had alot of fun playing with you guys <33

MAWARUCHI SURVIVERRRRRRRRRR BEST MAP
Topic Starter
Loctav
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/4881567
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/4879703
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/4883646

Match histories ^

China won by default because Chile didnt manage it to attend with 3 team members in time.

Sorry that we didnt have a stream and no backup plan ;___; I'll try my best to have a backup at least ready for next week.
OnosakiHito
Korea was impressive with their HD pick. Never thought they would all HD S it.
-Kazu-
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/4887956
dropping this before suicide
- Yuuka Niya -
Chile really good rival and I feel so sorry for you..

and something to ono: I don't think HD is only interesting to play at that low BPM.. maybe you'll choose https://osu.ppy.sh/b/66266 as a HD pick in the final match?
OnosakiHito
^: Are you serious? lol
Yuzeyun
I propose only under 60 BPM picks HD and above 220 for HR from now on
-Kazu-
distorted lovesong [taikosaki] for HR picks pls
- Yuuka Niya -

OnosakiHito wrote:

^: Are you serious? lol
in fact I'm serious.. HR pick is still playable, DT pick is too easy..HD pick is not suit for playing...
aabc271

- Yuuka Niya - wrote:

OnosakiHito wrote:

^: Are you serious? lol
in fact I'm serious.. HR pick is still playable, DT pick is too easy..HD pick is not suit for playing...
If that map is really chosen, then HD is really not suitable for playing lol
I'm fine with low BPM HD picks, but I don't think anyone can play that without memorization. It's just way too slow with unreasonable OD.
DT might be a bit easy, but I guess Ono arranges so to show that slower DT can still be hard ( Refer to RO8 DT list )
And btw, am I the only one who think HR is really difficult due to high BPM ? It seems that you guys are all so pro at sightreading :?
FlyingKiwi
Did you have technical difficulties to stream?
XK2238

aabc271 wrote:

And btw, am I the only one who think HR is really difficult due to high BPM ? It seems that you guys are all so pro at sightreading :?
you're not alone
Trash Boat
so how did Argentina went?
- Yuuka Niya -

- Yuuka Niya - wrote:

OnosakiHito wrote:

^: Are you serious? lol
in fact I'm serious.. HR pick is still playable, DT pick is too easy..HD pick is not suit for playing...
If that map is really chosen, then HD is really not suitable for playing lol
I'm fine with low BPM HD picks, but I don't think anyone can play that without memorization. It's just way too slow with unreasonable OD.
DT might be a bit easy, but I guess Ono arranges so to show that slower DT can still be hard ( Refer to RO8 DT list )
And btw, am I the only one who think HR is really difficult due to high BPM ? It seems that you guys are all so pro at sightreading :?[/quote]


maybe we have a different thinking about HD..
I think HD should be mainly without memorization..reading HD maps is fun.
If that tomoyo map is OD5 or OD6 .do you think that's a good pick for HD in final ono?
Jikson[m9]

- Yuuka Niya - wrote:

Chile really good rival and I feel so sorry for you..

and something to ono: I don't think HD is only interesting to play at that low BPM.. maybe you'll choose https://osu.ppy.sh/b/66266 as a HD pick in the final match?

NO please, NO. That song disgusts
Topic Starter
Loctav
Mappool and schedule are out. Woop
- Yuuka Niya -

Jikson[m9] wrote:

- Yuuka Niya - wrote:

Chile really good rival and I feel so sorry for you..

and something to ono: I don't think HD is only interesting to play at that low BPM.. maybe you'll choose https://osu.ppy.sh/b/66266 as a HD pick in the final match?

NO please, NO. That song disgusts
sorry I just used a very bad example but I just want to say only go for very low BPM songs for HD picks is not good D:
TKS
i should have to memorize HD,HR maps.
i want to run away from the TWC _(X3」 ∠)_
Kagami Yuki
I don't think HR>230BPM is playable.
It will hurt our eyes x_x
those maps need our memorize skill,but no reading skill.
Nashmun

- Kagami Yuki - wrote:

I don't think HR>230BPM is playable.
It will hurt our eyes x_x
those maps need our memorize skill,but no reading skill.
Nope, I can read them but I can't memorize a single pattern :< .
Asagi Mutsuki
dat crazy mappool :o
Kagami Yuki

Nashmun wrote:

- Kagami Yuki - wrote:

I don't think HR>230BPM is playable.
It will hurt our eyes x_x
those maps need our memorize skill,but no reading skill.
Nope, I can read them but I can't memorize a single pattern :< .
Nashmoe have special reading skill. LOL
Yuzeyun

- Kagami Yuki - wrote:

I don't think HR>230BPM is playable.
It will hurt our eyes x_x
those maps need our memorize skill,but no reading skill.
I love reading 260 BPM HR (>ω<)
Jikson[m9]

- Kagami Yuki - wrote:

Nashmoe have special reading skill. LOL


Hey that gag hahahahahahahaha
Cyclohexane
Really unsure about Shuriken HD. Seems extremely easy for semi-finals.
Kagami Yuki

_Gezo_ wrote:

I love reading 260 BPM HR (>ω<)
France all have special reading skill.I believe that.
LOL
OnosakiHito

Mr Color wrote:

Really unsure about Shuriken HD. Seems extremely easy for semi-finals.
Agree.
Backfire

OnosakiHito wrote:

Mr Color wrote:

Really unsure about Shuriken HD. Seems extremely easy for semi-finals.
Agree.
Then change it?
OnosakiHito
Once the mappool is announced it won't be changed anymore.
But I'm always open for opinions.
Backfire

OnosakiHito wrote:

Once the mappool is announced it won't be changed anymore.
But I'm always open for opinions.
It's only been a day, I doubt there will be any qualms if you change it.
Topic Starter
Loctav
No changes.
FlyingKiwi

Loctav wrote:

Mappool and schedule are out. Woop
So quick.
LZD
GO FRANCE, after all we are neighboors \:3/
Nashmun
We'll do our best \:D/
LZD
/me gives extra power to nash >:O
karterfreak
Nash, if you guys don't win I'm not sending you a baguette *hides*
Trash Boat
why not French toasts?
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