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Luna
Burn is fun and a very good strategic pick :v
Asagi Mutsuki

Luna wrote:

Burn is fun and a very good strategic pick :v
Hyakki Yakou anyone? Agreed :v Excellent map to sightread on XD
Marcin
As I said, I'll be working on statistics (pretty simple, but used to only find out the winners of groups :P) here is preview of what it will look like for interested. http://tournaments.hiroto.eu/
OzzyOzrock
I'm assuming there's literally no reasoning for these map picks being miles more difficult than those in TWC's past.

...But if one were to be made up, it'd probably be to close the gap between acc fights and actually skill, which is a bad reason on its own.
boat

OzzyOzrock wrote:

I'm assuming there's literally no reasoning for these map picks being miles more difficult than those in TWC's past.
With the lack of new players the general "skill ceiling" keeps rising for each year that goes by and what was considered considered "hard" a few years ago doesn't come close to what's considered "hard" today. In every gamemode, all maps are in general harder than they used to be.
lolcubes

boat wrote:

All of the maps should have been put into the HR bracket imo :X
And yyy's (lepi's) BSPower Explosion added.

Don't hurt me please.
Backfire

boat wrote:

OzzyOzrock wrote:

I'm assuming there's literally no reasoning for these map picks being miles more difficult than those in TWC's past.
With the lack of new players the general "skill ceiling" keeps rising for each year that goes by and what was considered considered "hard" a few years ago doesn't come close to what's considered "hard" today. In every gamemode, all maps are in general harder than they used to be.
Except for the fact there is considerably less skilled players playing this year, no offense to everyone out there.

Like, go look at least years team and this years teams. Maybe like 12 hardcore, could have won it all teams last year, compared to the maybe 6-7 this year. It is mostly the fault of not letting us have A and B teams or mixed country teams. We lost out on so many quality players.

I was even telling Ono it might be better if he made the maps easier this year. Howeverrrrrrrr another reason he has done this is perhaps because of the format, which is the format of getting rid of a team each week and having us all play over the weekend against everyone in each pool.

It makes sense but it also doesn't. I think this was handled fairly-well, considering.
Nashmun
I personally think you are all underestimating what people can do, even if we don't know them enough. I also think there are more new players that we think, but as they don't show up in forums nor in chat, people just assume they just don't exist. We'll see how it turns out this week-end, but I think it's a good thing to spice up the difficulty each year.

tl;dr : I think.
TimmyAkmed
Is there any news about the matchs that will be streamed or no stream at all for the group stage ?
OzzyOzrock
Oh dear, is there even info on if it's going to be streamed? I'm so bad.
LZD
How are going the matches, there are streaming of them? Need info i was afk the whole mornig
787B

TimmyAkmed wrote:

Is there any news about the matchs that will be streamed or no stream at all for the group stage ?
OnosakiHito
Right now we have a temp solution: http://www.twitch.tv/onosakihito
There you can watch some rounds of the TWC.
DarkStoorM
It was a good game girls X)
Bass
Poland2stronk
Catgirl
Good luck to all teams! :D
Coro
restofasia2stronk ;_;
Yuzeyun

Bass wrote:

Poland2stronk
Poland can into win
Nashmun
Good game Ukraine, it was a fun match ! :3
Acrith

_Gezo_ wrote:

Bass wrote:

Poland2stronk
Poland can into win
Are you suprised? :>
Luna
Good game Sweden, was fun o/

SPOILER
And I'd like to point out my impeccable management skills, getting every single member of my team to play in that match huehuehue

TKS
good game everybody!
Nashmun
gg Argentina, Canada ! Good luck for your next matches !
karterfreak
gg Russia and France. Hope to see you in the later rounds France to even the score!
Juuryoushin
Well played, it was intense and close between you two !

Some shit I screened from the match and myself, It might be fun.
Pagliaccio

Nashmun wrote:

Good game Ukraine, it was a fun match ! :3
ty, we enjoy it too :3
FlyingKiwi
Everyone was waiting to watch this, what was wrong with streaming? BTW, why is there a Round of 16? It's 20 teams, so 2 teams in each group going to the Quarter-Finals?
tucheqtxz
I'm waiting to view the stream... what happens?
Coro
Team Singapore's out, see you next year I guess ._.
Luna
Very good match, Malaysia! Super close.
3-4 ;w;
gg
Asagi Mutsuki
It was fun playing with you Germany ;w; even though I've only played in 1 match
OtakuFreak

cdhsausageboy wrote:

It was fun playing with you Germany ;w; even though I've only played in 1 match
Cdh et D:
btw congratz \:D/
Jerry
gg Germany! Awesome match, had lots of fun :3c
Luna
gg Japan too strong
How to beat?
Pagliaccio

Luna wrote:

gg Japan too strong
How to beat?
I think it's possible only with a huge club ;p
karterfreak

I Am Support wrote:

I'm waiting to view the stream... what happens?
Ono's been streaming it on a backup stream at http://www.twitch.tv/onosakihito
OzzyOzrock
So, here's a story.

In the US v Poland game, at one point we picked Tabidachi no Shuen or whatever, and we were like 'yeah we can all do well on that song'. So we're in, HR and all, and at 1:30 of the song, a norton pop-up comes up covering my screen. I have not missed yet, and there was no break until way later so I had to play with this pop-up above me. It was like playing with HR + HDx2, I think I missed one 2 notes until around ~2:51 of the song, when I was able to get rid of it, when I realized that it didn't close, rather now, I was out of osu! and on the pop-up, so no hits were registering for that bit.

gg norton op
Noobita

OzzyOzrock wrote:

So, here's a story.

In the US v Poland game, at one point we picked Tabidachi no Shuen or whatever, and we were like 'yeah we can all do well on that song'. So we're in, HR and all, and at 1:30 of the song, a norton pop-up comes up covering my screen. I have not missed yet, and there was no break until way later so I had to play with this pop-up above me. It was like playing with HR + HDx2, I think I missed one 2 notes until around ~2:51 of the song, when I was able to get rid of it, when I realized that it didn't close, rather now, I was out of osu! and on the pop-up, so no hits were registering for that bit.

gg norton op
meh excuses
TimmyAkmed

OzzyOzrock wrote:

So, here's a story.

In the US v Poland game, at one point we picked Tabidachi no Shuen or whatever, and we were like 'yeah we can all do well on that song'. So we're in, HR and all, and at 1:30 of the song, a norton pop-up comes up covering my screen. I have not missed yet, and there was no break until way later so I had to play with this pop-up above me. It was like playing with HR + HDx2, I think I missed one 2 notes until around ~2:51 of the song, when I was able to get rid of it, when I realized that it didn't close, rather now, I was out of osu! and on the pop-up, so no hits were registering for that bit.

gg norton op
I know that feel it happens to me so often ;w; but it's the firefox update haha

Great games everybody!
OnosakiHito
You are using norton? poor guy.
Oh, give me a little more time before the mappool gets released.
DarkStoorM
My gameplay was bad and I should feel bad.
Aka

DarkStoorM wrote:

My gameplay was bad and I should feel bad.
if u feel so dunno wat should I fell tho :roll:
Pagliaccio

Aka wrote:

if u feel so dunno wat should I fell tho :roll:
/me slaps
baka noone from our team blame you for not being as good as we are
stop crying we still love you no matter how you play :3
AnFace


well okay


loctav you did this didn't you
Lover
France 16-0 gg
karterfreak

AnFace wrote:



well okay


loctav you did this didn't you
Why yes, yes he did. He pretty much fucked up the entire brackets with seedings that make no sense, yay!
Trash Boat
lol
wait
what?
Nashmun

Tasha wrote:

AnFace wrote:



well okay


loctav you did this didn't you
Why yes, yes he did. He pretty much fucked up the entire brackets with seedings that make no sense, yay!
It's not like it's totally random, I personally think 1vs 4 and 2vs3 would have been better, but this is still totally acceptable.
Love
there the hell is the bracket anyways
karterfreak

Nashmun wrote:

It's not like it's totally random, I personally think 1vs 4 and 2vs3 would have been better, but this is still totally acceptable.
1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3 is kinda how seeds work but I'm done arguing this point, it's like beating a dead horse at this point.
OnosakiHito
RO16 Mappool is (since yesterday) out. Check out the wiki for more information.

Information:
  1. 22 different mappers
    - 2x: OnosakiHito
    - 1x: TW-KUMA01, Alace, Sushi, ignorethis, Lundlerol, mingmichael, Nashmun, [Shalon], NatsumeRin, Firce777, lolcubes, _Gezo_, lepidopodus, MoonFragrance, tsuka, wmfchris, kanpakyin, KanaRin, climbb65588, TKSalt, Mapper_31
  2. Genres / game / etc.: instrumental, country, japanese, anime, english, classic, vocaloid, k-pop, rock, touhou, BMS
  3. Song lenght: 13 x 1 minute, 6 x 2 minutes, 3 x 3 minutes, 1 x 6 minutes
  4. 4 maps used in previous TWCs
Mappool contains various maps which requier different skills, such as:
  1. reading finishers
  2. playing streams
  3. (dealing with SV changes)
  4. beeing able to play faster songs
  5. (stamina)
  6. tricky patterns
  7. 1/6 game play.
Formation:

  1. NoMod: From easier maps(top) to the harder maps (bottom), approximately.
  2. HD / HR: Contains one longer map
  3. DT: One slower BPM map.
  4. FM: Should be fair for all three play kinds (NM/HD/HR)
    - 1# BPM 190 - finisher usage
    - 2# BPM 178 - common map
    - 3# BPM 180 - 1/6 notes
    - 4# BPM 168 - long map + stream
You are always able to PM me in forum new maps. Preferable your own map, since you know how you mapped it and want to show me your best work.
I hope you like the mappools. Good luck to all participants!

Previous announcement; http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2845635
Acrith
Upload it in one pack, please...
Marcin

Acrith wrote:

Upload it in one pack, please...
No one poked me. Doing so right now.
Yuzeyun

OnosakiHito wrote:

  1. 22 different mappers
    [...], _Gezo_,
Well that was unexpected.
DarkStoorM
So, let's get the party started with new mappool xD
Nashmun
Ohgod, one of my maps picked again \:D/

btw, we have the schedule for next week but we still haven't seen the bracket yet, any news ?
Nwolf
http://puu.sh/6PQ3E/2d9507d84b.png

posted by loctav yesterday in #taiko
Nashmun
Yeah I know but I was expecting something we can actually read.
AnFace

Nashmun wrote:

Yeah I know but I was expecting something we can actually read.
http://tournaments.hiroto.eu/

i assume it's the group letter and ranking number within the group
karterfreak
I took the liberty of making brackets using Loctav's strange methods of seeding for those who actually want to see them some time in the near future.

http://challonge.com/TWC2014
Acrith

OnosakiHito wrote:

RO16 Mappool is (since yesterday) out. Check out the wiki for more information.

Information:
  1. 22 different mappers
    - 2x: OnosakiHito
    - 1x: TW-KUMA01, Alace, Sushi, ignorethis, Lundlerol, mingmichael, Nashmun, [Shalon], NatsumeRin, Firce777, lolcubes, _Gezo_, lepidopodus, MoonFragrance, tsuka, wmfchris, kanpakyin, KanaRin, climbb65588, TKSalt, Mapper_31
  2. Genres / game / etc.: instrumental, country, japanese, anime, english, classic, vocaloid, k-pop, rock, touhou, BMS
  3. Song lenght: 13 x 1 minute, 6 x 2 minutes, 3 x 3 minutes, 1 x 6 minutes
  4. All maps are the first time in use (no previous TWC)
Are you sure about Gangnam Style? (TWC#3 Group Stage) o/
And Paradise LOST? (TWC#2 Group Stage)
And Babylon? (TWC#3 Group Stage)
OnosakiHito
Yeah, I got informed about this before. I forgot about the older TWCs, but most guys didn't played the map anyway, so it should be fine.
Nashmun
So, from now all matches are going to be streamed on the official twitch channel, right ?
OnosakiHito
Probably. If not, I will be here for all matches.
Krah
There is a clear lack of cool banner here.






EDIT : typo fixed
Nashmun

Krah wrote:

There is a clear lack of cool banner here.



<3
Luna
Why does France always have the greatest banners for any event ever?
Who do you hire to design them?
DarkStoorM
Hey, US!
;DDDDDDDDDD
We will remember

[edit] That wild Skype sound xD
Nashmun

Luna wrote:

Why does France always have the greatest banners for any event ever?
Who do you hire to design them?
Don't worry Luna, I made one just for you :



*Hides*
OnosakiHito
Oh, nice that they are not skipping the... beginning.
Haha Nashmun
Luna

Nashmun wrote:

Luna wrote:

Why does France always have the greatest banners for any event ever?
Who do you hire to design them?
Don't worry Luna, I made one just for you :



*Hides*
glorious
however,
Nashmun


hurr, purrfect size

or extra wide :
LZD
lol best designer ever nash xD
[TaikoTori]

Nashmun wrote:

10/10 would use again, thx Nash
DarkStoorM
Sup Germany
FlyingKiwi
It's still cool even you put random pics. BTW, could you please live stream all the matches next year...
Nashmun
These are not random pics ;_;
DarkDunskin
Th1s is so aw3sum!
Stash-Moon gud ideaaaa!
Greatest banner evaaa :D
Cyclohexane
I might as well say this here so you guys can know in advance.

I will be there to commentate the matches on Saturday, but not Sunday. Sorry about that. I have to celebrate my father's birthday and I'll be taken pretty much the entire day.
Topic Starter
Loctav
I am sure OnosakiHito will cover up your loss on Sunday. With his cute English
Cyclohexane
He's the map selector anyway, so he probably knows a lot more than I do when it comes to the TWC in general.
I'm just here to drive hype trains
AnFace


i'm ready
lolcubes

Mr Color wrote:

I'll be taken pretty much the entire day.
Should I call Liam Neeson?
Luna
gg Hong Kong too strong
Please delete all video evidence of me playing that Hidden map, that totally didn't happen *coughcough*
Nashmun
Poor Luna ;_;

Don't worry, you're still pro :3
Taadashi

Luna wrote:

gg Hong Kong too strong
Please delete all video evidence of me playing that Hidden map, that totally didn't happen *coughcough*
*pats*
Luna
Random fun fact: Broken and Tori are no better than me on that map :'D
Nashmun
Thanks to all the UK team for this awesome match, every game was so close I almost had an heart attack :<

Really good job guys <3
karterfreak
Grats to Spain.

edit: I stand corrected. Right at the bottom of course... The rule still makes no sense though.
[ Lilith ]
RIP in peace Canada.
Topic Starter
Loctav

Tasha wrote:

Grats to Spain.

Oh, and by the way. There's nothing in the rules stating that 2v3's are not allowed. The only mentions of 3v3 are that it is a 3v3 tournament and that you need 3 players to participate in the tournament (which is under REGISTRATION), and that a match may only be postponed 10 minutes if there is not 3 players on a team. It does not say to disqualify them if they do not have 3 players during the match.





sorry tho
Topic Starter
Loctav
Greetings everybody, official notice incoming.
After sorting out the issue with Canada vs Spain with the game administration, we decided to give Canada the chance to rematch this game. Please keep in mind that this is an exceptional decision since one player of the Canadian team didn't attend to the match in time because he mixed up the time zones (I hate time zones, seriously).

So then, Canada is given the chance to rearrange a rematch against Spain, which must happen until Tuesday, 18th Feb 2014 23:59:59 UTC. Yet, the Spanish team must agree that they want to rematch it.
It might also be that we can not cover this rematch with a stream, due to organizational limitations, and if we cover it, we can not announce it largely before.

Anyways, for the potential opponent, Japan, we will only schedule one date for both encounters. This means that Japan does not have to pay attention to the winner of the rematch, since the scheduled time will stay the same, regardless of who wins that match.

Please don't that for granted. This has been decided to bring optimal results in measuring the this year's Taiko World Cup champion by skill and not by mistakes resulting out of time zone confusion.

If the rematch is not able to happen before the said deadline, the previous decision will stay and Canada still loses by default against Spain.

I hope this compromises pleases everyone, the participants, the administration and the audience. Let's keep the world cup running. Sorry for the inconveniences.

Schedules and mappool will be released by tonight. And oh yes, I wanted to post a bracket. The wiki hates everyone right now, so here - have a sexy bracket (still RO16 but whatever)

karterfreak
Going to be attempting to get in contact with Spain as soon as possible. Hopefully they're willing to have the match still.

edit: Spain is unable to make a match during the weekday. Canada is officially out.
Topic Starter
Loctav
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... _web#gid=5

So there we go with the next match schedule and mappool. Until the wiki is fixed, you can look up the current information right in the document instead. I am going to update the wiki as soon as it gets accessible again.
OnosakiHito
Q-Finals Mappool is out. Check out following link: p/2876346.

Information:
  1. 20 different mappers
    - 2x: TW-KUMA01, MMzz
    - 1x: KinomiCandy, OnosakiHito, Loctav, Pheon, aabc271, littlecar3370, biwako, Mapper_31, lolcubes, TKSalt, Fraolinch, Kayesara, climbb65588, Kurosanyan, lepidopodus, OzzyOzrock, Rokodo, Love
  2. Genres / game / etc.: happycore, rock, classic, electronic, instrumental, anime, jpn folk, vocaloid, english, touhou, japanese
  3. Song length: 9 x 1 minute, 8 x 2 minutes, 2 x 3 minutes, 3 x 4 minutes, 1 x 7 minutes
  4. X maps used in previous TWCs
Mappool contains various maps which require different skills, such as:
  1. reading finishers
  2. playing streams
  3. low BPM
  4. 1/3 gameplay
  5. reading skill on low BPM maps with HD
  6. reading skill on high BPM maps with HR
  7. accuracy
Formation:

  1. NoMod: From easier maps(top) to the harder maps (bottom), approximately.
  2. HD: Low BPM maps
  3. HR: High BPM maps
  4. DT: From easier maps(top) to the harder maps (bottom), approximately.
  5. FM: Should be fair for all three play kinds (NM/HD/HR)
    - 1# BPM 180 - common map
    - 2# BPM 200 - odd patterns
    - 3# BPM 175 - 1/6 notes
    - 4# BPM 130 - high acc skill required
You are always able to PM me in forum new maps. Preferable your own map, since you know how you mapped it and want to show me your best work.
I hope you like the mappools. Good luck to all participants!

Previous announcement: p/2860918
Fraolinch
omai wat
OnosakiHito
Everyone so suprised.

Nwolf
Igorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Tewiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii(x2)
Dragons
IVALTEK
inside identity
snow prism
Demetori (somebody please play a tie, thx)

this map pool is perfect kk


btw, 3 maps in previous twcs
Yuzeyun

OnosakiHito wrote:

[*]HD: Low BPM maps =>100-130 bpm, what hardly anyone can play
[*]HR: High BPM maps => 190-220 bpm, which is not uncommon to see
at least include 230+ BPM maps in HR to make it balanced :(
Love

Nwolf wrote:

Igorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Tewiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii(x2)
Dragons
IVALTEK
inside identity
snow prism
Demetori (somebody please play a tie, thx)

this map pool is perfect kk


btw, 3 maps in previous twcs
yw for that demetori map
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