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AnFace

Nashmun wrote:

Loctav wrote:

I miss Korea
I don't.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwrCEX1ElJ8
Nashmun
So, how many counties have registered so far ? With all those countries not jumping in, I'm afraid the 32 slots won't be filled tomorrow D:
Topic Starter
Loctav
We are having issues filling all slots. Considering to change the tourney setup due to this
Nashmun
This is not a good news for taiko community. I'm sure we do have enough players to fill all slots but people tend to focus more about having a God like team rather than getting 3 regular players from the same country :( . Anyway, looking forward to see the teams
Haereticus
So , will the teams come out tomorrow ?

Can't wait to see which countries there are.
Topic Starter
Loctav
The checkthroughs of all rosters will be done tomorrow. Please finalize your rosters until tomorrow, since all changes will be forfeited later. The checkthroughs are starting then and then I will release a list of all countries that are going to participate. I will try to find an appropriate solution in case of a lack of teams. Don't worry.
BrokenArrow
Just to be sure (since you posted in the middle of the night): Do you mean we have time to finalize our roasters until (including) Monday or only for the rest of today?
Topic Starter
Loctav
I mean Sunday, 23:59:59 UTC+0 (11:59:59pm)
Cyntu
wtf only 20 countries? what??¡?
Jp-Tiger
\:D/
Nashmun
Indonesia, Argentina where ? No scandinavian country ? Come on guys....
Niva

Nashmun wrote:

Indonesia, Argentina where ? No scandinavian country ? Come on guys....
*randomly passing by*

Umm, idk about us... To be honest, the hype on us about this event can be considered very low, although Thelma himself said he's still looking for members...

I can't really certain about Indonesia's condition right now, let's just see later anyway (:

Good luck to all participants on this event anyway!
Haereticus
Where did you see the countries ? url plz ;w;
Nashmun
Haereticus
Thanks Nashmun
- Yuuka Niya -
Sad to see that.
But when A.B team is not allowed. Really easy to be like this situation..

I think it's not easy to have enough countries to attend.Then what will you decide Loctav?
Cyntu
Argentina had a full team, fu come onnn u.u
Nearex

Nashmun wrote:

Indonesia, Argentina where ? No scandinavian country ? Come on guys....
Here we are :(
Full team as Cyntuu says.

Please can you explain why we get kicked off? why don't you let us play? :cry: :cry:
Nashmun

- Yuuka Niya - wrote:

Sad to see that.
But when A.B team is not allowed. Really easy to be like this situation..

I think it's not easy to have enough countries to attend.Then what will you decide Loctav?
Actually I'm pretty sure we do have 32 countries with at least 3 regular players. I've seen some players not participating because : "We don't have enough players in my country" even though I could find at least 2 others players who plays every days and has more than 10k PC. But some people just tend to think that if you can't FC every ranked map then you're not capable of playing in the TWC. Unfortunately, this is not giving a good image of taiko community because it has grown since last year but we have the impression it haven't just because of that.
karterfreak
I'm not gonna speak for Loctav because I don't know the whole situation, but did you guys follow the rules for registering? This happened before where some people didn't send a PM to Loctav after registering like is required in the rules.
- Yuuka Niya -

Nashmun wrote:

- Yuuka Niya - wrote:

Sad to see that.
But when A.B team is not allowed. Really easy to be like this situation..

I think it's not easy to have enough countries to attend.Then what will you decide Loctav?
Actually I'm pretty sure we do have 32 countries with at least 3 regular players. I've seen some players not participating because : "We don't have enough players in my country" even though I could find at least 2 others players who plays every days and has more than 10k PC. But some people just tend to think that if you can't FC every ranked map then you're not capable of playing in the TWC. Unfortunately, this is not giving a good image of taiko community because it has grown since last year but we have the impression it haven't just because of that.

are u really sure? Though I haven't calculate before,but maybe u can have a compare with the owc..
Then, though some players have pc more than 10k, they don't want to join either, for a not very correct example ,Rokodo?
Nashmun
I calculated how much countries we could gather just with players I already know, and I could gather more than 20 countries, and I wasn't that far from 32. Yes the issue is players not wanting to join and some not even being asked because they are not known in the taiko community (ie. people think they don't exist).

About Argentina not being in pending countries, I guess it's because we couldn't gather 32 teams, so they decided to cut off the number of participant to 20, and if you sent your application after 20 teams then maybe you're not on the list. But this is just an assumption, we should wait for the official answer ;)

EDIT : After reading the wiki page, it looks like this is the case. We now have 4 groups of 5 teams and #1-#4 of each group ascend to the knock-out stage. If we could gather more than 20 countries and having to reject some, maybe we can try to gather 24 teams, make 6 groups of 4 teams, make #1-#2 ascend + the 4 best #3. As we have to play the group stage in one single week-end, it will be easier for both part to make groups of 4 teams ?
pw384
Good luck there.
JhowM

Nashmun wrote:

If the teams really wanted to register they could have done it during the given time. Unfortunately the fact is, a lot of country just don't want to participate.
Yeah, you're right.

Anyway, good luck everyone.
Topic Starter
Loctav
Every team underruns the same check. If you want to change your roster, do it now. Your team hasn't been checked yet, so you can still exchange some members. But hurry up. Whenever the check started, changes are invalid.
Topic Starter
Loctav
Doublepost: I know that you have a different "culture of forum postings", but I decided to remove any post that weren't contributive to any discussion at all. Every post that lacks of a basic content got removed and will be removed in future.
yuan_0312
I think the top8 (A-Z)Canada France Germany HongKong Japan Korea Taiwan and [?]
Nashmun
Still only 4 validated teams ? Will the checks be totally performed until Saturday ?
Trash Boat
can we spec the TWC through osu! or from another website?
Riari

Trash Boat wrote:

can we spec the TWC through osu! or from another website?
I'm sure that you will be able to watch a stream on twitch and spec the players individually.
Nashmun
Yup, matches will be streamed on twitch through the official world cup channel here : http://www.twitch.tv/osulive
mliencheng
Wow, this year's TWC is so fair \(´・∀・`)/

I bet the champion will be Korea this time .

Good job.
Nashmun
-applerss- in the Korea team ? That was unexpected :p . Anyway, interesting teams we have here, can't wait to see the groups.
Trash Boat
and Argentina is in. at what time will start the live stream. my timezone is UTC -3
Choco Filled
this sounds interesting :D

So goodluck guys and ofc PH. team still pending i wonder why?
XK2238
>mfw no Taiwan

also


HR AURA 2STRONK

looks like this year will be different from recent ones, huh? lol
anyways good luck to all o/
Choco Filled

XK2238 wrote:

>mfw no Taiwan

also


HR AURA 2STRONK

looks like this year will be different from recent ones, huh? lol
anyways good luck to all o/
i didnt notice they have a new captain as well xD

XK why your team didnt join yet? i wonder why,,,
Nashmun

XK2238 wrote:

also


HR AURA 2STRONK
Wut ?

Also H-3 for the drawings if everything is alright \o/
AnFace

XK2238 wrote:

>mfw no Taiwan

also


HR AURA 2STRONK

looks like this year will be different from recent ones, huh? lol
anyways good luck to all o/
gimme dat free mod
Luna
We're up against Japan and Malaysia? It's last year all over again /o/
Asagi Mutsuki
We're up against Japan and Germany? GG then lolololololololol
HeatKai

Luna wrote:

We're up against Japan and Malaysia? It's last year all over again /o/
oh stop it you hr master
Jerry
Oh man this is gonna be so fun fdsjafdjsivdvdfvsn
Pagliaccio

Luna wrote:

We're up against Japan and Malaysia? It's last year all over again /o/
Japan? Malaysia? Lol, France+Canada gg wp cya next year :D
Trash Boat
whats the live stream? i thought it started today
karterfreak
Hoping we get the songs for group stage posted soon! Want to get practicing! :)
Yuzeyun

Luna wrote:

We're up against Japan and Malaysia? It's last year all over again /o/
ПРИВЕТ, РОССИЯ.
Topic Starter
Loctav

Tasha wrote:

Hoping we get the songs for group stage posted soon! Want to get practicing! :)
I aim to release everything on the evening. Scheduling needs some time :D
Nashmun
What's the final answers about streaming group stage ? Can we stream at least few matches or no matches at all will be streamed ?
Topic Starter
Loctav

Nashmun wrote:

What's the final answers about streaming group stage ? Can we stream at least few matches or no matches at all will be streamed ?
This will be decided during the week after some followups and testings
OnosakiHito
Group Stage Mappool is out. Check out the wiki for it.

Information:
  1. 19 different mappers
    - 2x: climbb65588, Alace, KanaRin, Flower, lolcubes
    - 1x: Nashmun, 31, MMzz, inaba-tan, TKSalt, OnosakiHito, qoot8123, hs714, toara_fict, spboxer3, MoonFragrancy, Reyshel, bossandy, lepidopodus
  2. Genres / singer / etc.: BMS, english, japanese, anime, classic, folk, cytus, instrumental, Hatsune Miku, k-pop, eurobeat
  3. Song lenght: 8 x 1 minute, 7 x 2 minutes, 5 x 3 minutes, 2 x 4 minutes
  4. Using three previous used maps
Mappool contains various maps which requier different skills, such as:
  1. reading finishers
  2. playing streams
  3. dealing with SV changes
  4. beeing able to play faster songs
  5. stamina
  6. slider game play (Map: Kara - Step).
Formation:

  1. NoMod: From easier maps(top) to the harder maps (bottom).
  2. HD / HR: Contains one easier HD/HR map but which are longer than the other maps from their mod bracket.
  3. DT: One slower BPM map.
  4. Free Mod: Should be fair for all three play kinds (NM/HD/HR)
    - 1# Map: 165 BPM
    - 2# Map: 170 BPM
    - 3# Map: 180 BPM
You are always able to PM me in forum new maps. Preferable your own map, since you know how you mapped it and want to show me your best work.
I hope you like the mappools. Good luck to all participants!
Topic Starter
Loctav
Moreover, the match schedule has been released.
Please consult the wiki page to insight this information.
OzzyOzrock
Is there a beatmap pack for the songs? That'd be nice.
lolcubes
Luna
Fun maps, but pretty easy set tbh
Owens and Calamity Fortune should have been free mod imo, they are really awesome on both HR and HD (and of similar difficulty with each mod)
Manima ni = <3, but also a bit too easy for a tiebreaker maybe
[TaikoTori]
It is supposed to be easy, Luna. :D It is the first round, after all. I agree with Luna otherwise, tho. Very fun!
AnFace

Luna wrote:

Fun maps, but pretty easy set tbh
Owens and Calamity Fortune should have been free mod imo, they are really awesome on both HR and HD (and of similar difficulty with each mod)
Manima ni = <3, but also a bit too easy for a tiebreaker maybe
everything should be free mod
nomod is so hard
Nashmun
Good mappool indeed, I like those HR picks :) (And omg Burn in the nomod bracket :3)
And I agree with Luna that the tiebreaker might be too easy.
Lover

_Gezo_ wrote:

ПРИВЕТ, РОССИЯ.
Bonjour, France!
Luna
When do we get the final rosters confirmed? There's still three pending.
Topic Starter
Loctav
When it's ready (most likely today)
Nwolf
Stupid map list

as if anybody would ever look at it but w/e
Backfire
You would pick some shit with a stream all like kkkdkkk fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

also your map difficulty is so silly, Nuclear Fusion is like 100x more easy than the bbn map ;_;

pls fix or am I just really stupid and bad
karterfreak
Ironically enough I find Nuclear Fusion to be the hardest of the maps due to the 1/6 making it the hardest to FC.
[TaikoTori]
Nuclear Fusion is the hardest to Fc while Burn is the hardest to acc imho.
Nashmun

Backfire wrote:

You would pick some shit with a stream all like kkkdkkk fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

also your map difficulty is so silly, Nuclear Fusion is like 100x more easy than the bbn map ;_;

pls fix or am I just really stupid and bad
Not sure if trolling or just stupid.
abrian

Luna wrote:

Fun maps, but pretty easy set tbh
Owens and Calamity Fortune should have been free mod imo, they are really awesome on both HR and HD (and of similar difficulty with each mod)
Manima ni = <3, but also a bit too easy for a tiebreaker maybe
Im sure you SSed it with HR before...:/ manima ni
Topic Starter
Loctav
Finalized all rosters.
Backfire

Nashmun wrote:

Not sure if trolling or just stupid.
You could refrain from making inappropriate comments like this. Some patterns are harder for others. If I find something hard, it makes me a troll?

Nuclear Fusion is INCREDIBLY EASY except for one 1/6 part. Parts like it, are not hard, but just make it inconsistent. Things like bbn are actually hard and kind of inconsistently mapped, possibly because it's not very good, but that's just my opinion. A lot of times, I struggle with hard patterns on slower maps. It's just the nature of the kddk playstyle. ddkk or kkdd don't find it hard, since they don't have to swap hands and play it backwards. I guess I am seriously just stupid though, thanks for teliing me.
Aka
all what i can say is that this year is much harder than previous :о
Pizzicato
these are all too hard for me :[
boat
All of the maps should have been put into the HR bracket imo :X
Aka

boat wrote:

All of the maps should have been put into the HR bracket imo :X
+1 for the Burn map, such a pain >:
Nashmun
RIP Burn :( .
Luna
Burn is fun and a very good strategic pick :v
Asagi Mutsuki

Luna wrote:

Burn is fun and a very good strategic pick :v
Hyakki Yakou anyone? Agreed :v Excellent map to sightread on XD
Marcin
As I said, I'll be working on statistics (pretty simple, but used to only find out the winners of groups :P) here is preview of what it will look like for interested. http://tournaments.hiroto.eu/
OzzyOzrock
I'm assuming there's literally no reasoning for these map picks being miles more difficult than those in TWC's past.

...But if one were to be made up, it'd probably be to close the gap between acc fights and actually skill, which is a bad reason on its own.
boat

OzzyOzrock wrote:

I'm assuming there's literally no reasoning for these map picks being miles more difficult than those in TWC's past.
With the lack of new players the general "skill ceiling" keeps rising for each year that goes by and what was considered considered "hard" a few years ago doesn't come close to what's considered "hard" today. In every gamemode, all maps are in general harder than they used to be.
lolcubes

boat wrote:

All of the maps should have been put into the HR bracket imo :X
And yyy's (lepi's) BSPower Explosion added.

Don't hurt me please.
Backfire

boat wrote:

OzzyOzrock wrote:

I'm assuming there's literally no reasoning for these map picks being miles more difficult than those in TWC's past.
With the lack of new players the general "skill ceiling" keeps rising for each year that goes by and what was considered considered "hard" a few years ago doesn't come close to what's considered "hard" today. In every gamemode, all maps are in general harder than they used to be.
Except for the fact there is considerably less skilled players playing this year, no offense to everyone out there.

Like, go look at least years team and this years teams. Maybe like 12 hardcore, could have won it all teams last year, compared to the maybe 6-7 this year. It is mostly the fault of not letting us have A and B teams or mixed country teams. We lost out on so many quality players.

I was even telling Ono it might be better if he made the maps easier this year. Howeverrrrrrrr another reason he has done this is perhaps because of the format, which is the format of getting rid of a team each week and having us all play over the weekend against everyone in each pool.

It makes sense but it also doesn't. I think this was handled fairly-well, considering.
Nashmun
I personally think you are all underestimating what people can do, even if we don't know them enough. I also think there are more new players that we think, but as they don't show up in forums nor in chat, people just assume they just don't exist. We'll see how it turns out this week-end, but I think it's a good thing to spice up the difficulty each year.

tl;dr : I think.
TimmyAkmed
Is there any news about the matchs that will be streamed or no stream at all for the group stage ?
OzzyOzrock
Oh dear, is there even info on if it's going to be streamed? I'm so bad.
LZD
How are going the matches, there are streaming of them? Need info i was afk the whole mornig
787B

TimmyAkmed wrote:

Is there any news about the matchs that will be streamed or no stream at all for the group stage ?
OnosakiHito
Right now we have a temp solution: http://www.twitch.tv/onosakihito
There you can watch some rounds of the TWC.
DarkStoorM
It was a good game girls X)
Bass
Poland2stronk
Catgirl
Good luck to all teams! :D
Coro
restofasia2stronk ;_;
Yuzeyun

Bass wrote:

Poland2stronk
Poland can into win
Nashmun
Good game Ukraine, it was a fun match ! :3
Acrith

_Gezo_ wrote:

Bass wrote:

Poland2stronk
Poland can into win
Are you suprised? :>
Luna
Good game Sweden, was fun o/

SPOILER
And I'd like to point out my impeccable management skills, getting every single member of my team to play in that match huehuehue

TKS
good game everybody!
Nashmun
gg Argentina, Canada ! Good luck for your next matches !
karterfreak
gg Russia and France. Hope to see you in the later rounds France to even the score!
Juuryoushin
Well played, it was intense and close between you two !

Some shit I screened from the match and myself, It might be fun.
Pagliaccio

Nashmun wrote:

Good game Ukraine, it was a fun match ! :3
ty, we enjoy it too :3
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