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ULTRA TOWER - Kibou no Uta (TV Size)

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Nevo
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Nevo
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 3:34:28 PM

Artist: ULTRA TOWER
Title: Kibou no Uta (TV Size)
Source: 食戟のソーマ
Tags: Shokugeki no Soma Food Wars! opening op 1 Shiratoi Agatsu Armin A_r_M_i_N Renumi japanese anime
BPM: 177
Filesize: 17918kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. A r M i N's Insane (4.64 stars, 249 notes)
  2. Agatsu's Normal (2.12 stars, 145 notes)
  3. Insane (4.19 stars, 270 notes)
  4. Shira's Hard (3.2 stars, 206 notes)
Download: ULTRA TOWER - Kibou no Uta (TV Size)
Download: ULTRA TOWER - Kibou no Uta (TV Size) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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The Story of This Map
Where do I even begin with this set. Well I guess it's best to start off with what I call the big 3 Nevo maps, Dream Solister, Otsukimi Recital, and Kibou no Uta. Where I learned how to map through Dream Solister and I met people and learned I love mapping through Otsukimi Recital. Kibou no Uta is where I got all my motivation. It's a fun tale, sometime in the summer of 2016 I was on vacation in Bermuda with a little laptop that ran the editor with like 20 fps. I was fairly new and I spent a lot of time in #modhelp, one day then BN Kibbleru was asking for people to np their maps since he was bored, I was extremely terrified so I nped it and then waited as he went through each map. After like a hour or so he got to my map and god i remember it so clearly. He was modding it for about 5 minutes and I asked him in pm if it was bad, his reply was yeah saying it lacked structure and rhythm consistency and pointed out a few patterns. I then said thank you! He was confused asking why after he just roasted my map I would thank him. I then proceeded to explain that after so long just the fact a BN looked at my map and gave really helpful feedback was enough to make my overfilled with joy. Ever since then I have had this motivation to just make maps that has lasted and lasted even today. :3c

This map as it is right now is not in its original state it is currently the remapped version I made in July 2017 of which I didn't rank until now since I didn't really want to rank my big three original maps but with me closing in on ranked map 100 I feel it would be perfect to rank it before I hit the milestone.

Also this is technically the oldest things I've mapped ranked since it was made before Yubi Bouenkyou :D

Here's the oldest version I have https://nevo.s-ul.eu/X7QfQ0cj

Hey Look it's where my motivation comes from

Old Description
remapped after a year lol

Going for Rank!
Agatsu's Normal by Agatsu
Shira's Hard by Shiratoi
Light Insane by Nevo
A r M i N's Insane by A r M i N
Hitsounds by Renumi

i need a normal and hard gd :( need a normal

Original Set
Old Description
[One Year later]This was my first try ever for rank and I just want new mappers to know that sometimes it's better to move on than stick on the same project. This map is hands down one of the most important maps I have ever mapped and I hope maybe one day I'll remap but who knows.

I want the Rank but I'm fixing small things


Normal - Gentle and slow easy for the new players.
Hard - More jumps and patterns.
Yukihira Style - A bit spread out faster more intricate paterns the way the song is meant to be played.

[=HUGE THANKS TO THE MODDERS]Hobbes2
Maq
missa1912
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Nitrous
Hazu-
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100bit
snoopeh
Rose Melody
Kantzm8
-soramaru-
roshan117
Net0
Down <3
-NanoRIPE-
Hpocks
Lilyanna
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Last edited by Nevo , edited 236 times in total.
Izzywing
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2,251 posts
Joined March 2016
Izzywing
From #modreqs

Overall - Combo colors!

Hard -

Your combos are pretty long, I'm pretty sure you can split up some of the longer ones (14-16 hit combos)

00:16:624 (12) - i'd blanket this

00:39:142 (7,8,9) - awkward flow, and kinda weird to read for this diff

00:44:903 (11,12) - flow here is weird, too spaced I think

01:17:634 (9,10,11) - this part seems overly spaced

Your last combo is 22 long, definitely needs a shortening.

Overall this diff was a lot of fun, I think there was some spacing issues overall (some jumps felt out of place), but it played well and I liked a lot of the patterns.

Yukihara Style -

Same thing with the combos, some of them feel too long.

This diff is very similar to your hard, to the point where its very noticeable (esp. the beginning and end). Why not change the shapes / location a bit to differentiate more? Or was this on purpose?

Not super good at modding harder diffs sry :c

Normal - Woah, a 2.9 star normal O_o

AR seems low for its difficulty.

TBH I feel like you should rebrand your Hard as a "light insane" or similar and call what you currently have as "normal" hard. It has the specs of a normal, sort of (AR, CS, etc), but the mapping is like a hard difficulty. It's very hard to read because the map elements get clogged up with the low AR and big CS.

It's also hard for me to mod because I don't exactly know what you're going for with the normal...there are jumps in there that definitely do not belong in a normal difficulty. Is it supposed to be hard or normal? If it's supposed to be normal then the map overall is way too hard, but if it's supposed to be harder than you can't really call it normal.

Sorry if that didn't make sense, hope you understood though.

Good luck!
Maq
49 posts
Joined November 2015
Maq
from modreqs

SPOILER
Normal
Overall I would say to make the SV slower, and make sure that sliders dont overlap each other, but I'll mod what's here
00:04:081 (4) - NC
00:07:810 (9) - ^
00:13:912 (5) - ^
00:19:844 (5) - I think something like this: http://prntscr.com/b5bgn5 would play better
00:35:581 (8) - NC
00:35:411 (7) - ^
00:39:649 (8) - ^
00:43:716 (7) - ^
00:46:259 (14) - ^
00:50:505 (7) - ^
00:54:573 (8) - ^
01:06:109 (7) - Add a note here and make it a NC

Honestly this whole map just needs to be redone. Combos of +7/8 are unrankable, and having notes overlapped and stacked the way you made it really doesnt play well at all. This goes for the other difficulties as well. When you remap, use distance snap to properly space notes throughout the song to make it more playable. Also, utilize the beatmapping threads for more tips on making a good map.
Good luck!
missa1912
549 posts
Joined July 2015
missa1912
Hi! from #modreq

Yukihara Style

your map has good rhythm, you only need to work more on the aesthetics

  • 00:08:488 (1,2,3,4,5) - This part should be on white ticks

    01:21:697 (1) - I think from here you can do a fast ending (remove some slider and put cilrcles so you can make them jumps, or only increases the speed of slider an meke that part more fast, this is just my nazi opinion :D )
also you shoul put some tags, this is a little help with the metadata

  • Title: 希望の唄 (TV Size)
    Romanised Title: Kibou no Uta (TV Size)
    Source: 食戟のソーマ
    Tags: Shokugeki no Soma Food Wars! opening op 1
and also sorry for my bad english, gl with your map! :)
PhantomHunt3r
118 posts
Joined September 2015
PhantomHunt3r
Normal
00:04:081 (1,2,3,4) - this combo feels a bit off maybe do something like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5180901 also flows better
00:10:437 (3,4,5) - should be moved over a tick
00:28:462 (4) - i think this should be spaces, dont quote me
other then that, this is good in my eyes

hard
00:09:505 (6) - this should be moved to the white tick to the right
00:57:963 (2,3,4,5) - this should be moved to fit the feel of the map, this maybe? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5180951
01:00:508 (1) - this should be closer to the notes
01:00:508 (1) - ^ but closer to the next combo

yukihira special
00:01:369 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - is this a copy from the beginning of hard? if so, it has the same mistake
00:45:751 (1,2,3) - this could be closer but i dont know this is your call
01:23:391 (2) - this should be fliped if you want to keep this, but again your call
fun map so far

thank you for modding my map, so this is a little thank you gift
Nitrous
1,206 posts
Joined October 2015
Nitrous
From my Modding Queue

General
  1. Metadata Conflicts over Difficulties
  2. Set Preview Time: 00:27:106 - Try setting it here
  3. Try using different Colors:
    Use the code below
    [Colours]
    Combo1 : 255,174,53
    Combo2 : 255,250,51
    Combo3 : 77,77,251
    Combo4 : 251,74,74
Normal
  1. Since this is Normal, please keep your Distance Snap consistent
  2. 00:09:844 (2,3) - Duplicate (2) then make it mirror with itself
  3. 00:13:912 (3,1) - Blanket this
  4. 00:49:140 (3) - Unsnapped Object
  5. While I have no issues with the rhythm, consider remapping because of the map's flow.
Hard
  1. Tons of Unsnapped Objects
  2. While I have no issues with the rhythm, consider remapping because of the map's flow.
Yukihara Style
  1. Tons of Unsnapped Objects
  2. While I have no issues with the rhythm, consider remapping because of the map's flow.

Thanks for using my queue and Good luck with Ranking!
Hazu-
3,881 posts
Joined July 2014
Hazu-
Hi, from #modreqs :3

General

  1. Check AiMod (Ctrl+Shift+A)
  2. Don't focus so much on the vocal.

Normal

  1. Normal needs Distance Snap
  2. 00:22:022 (5) - New Combo, very long combo
  3. 00:58:641 (5) - ^
  4. 01:02:719 (6) - When the Kiai is normally begins with New Combo.
  5. 01:13:567 (6) - Nwe Combo and Finish.
  6. 01:18:991 (3) - Finish
  7. 01:21:697 (4) - New Combo

Hard

  1. 00:10:437 (8) - in 00:10:522 -
  2. 00:10:776 (9) - in 00:10:861 -
  3. 01:17:634 (9) - New Combo
O-Moei
O-Moei
Hello !, from #modreqs. Whoa ! Anime ! I hope I'm helpful here. :D

General :
Disable Countdown ! (Not needed)
Some Timing Point(s) conflicts at every diffs
01:25:595 (1) - This spinner end hit sound, better making it 5%-10% Audio
Sorry to be rude, but I don't get the BPM Timing. Are you sure 177 BPM is the correct one ?

Normal :
To be honest, Normal diff will be lovelier if you use the same Distance Spacing at every circles. Imagine a "beginner" confused playing this diff
How about making patterns that easily read by trainees ? :)
00:08:488 (5) - 00:13:912 (3) - 00:27:445 (3) - New Combo
00:09:505 (2) - 00:12:217 (1) - 00:12:556 (1) - 00:15:268 (3) - 00:17:980 (1) - 00:31:513 (1) - 00:24:055 (1) - 00:26:767 (1) - Remove New Combo
Oh my ! Lot of uncontrolled combos number. Oh ! I've heard this song carefully, better keep the combos around 4-6 combos

Hard :
Nah, on this Hard diff, better keep the combos around 6-8 combos. Please listen the rhythms !
Some movements supposed to be an Insane diff, please re-consider ! >:(
00:57:624 (1) - Stack it with the slider end before

Yukihara Style :
On this diff, better keep the combos around 8-12 combos. Please listen the rhythms !
I see, Hard diff still copied from this diff, eh ?
I can't really follow playing this. Sorry to say this, but maybe re-map is a good idea :o

Nah, that's all I can give. Is this a reading map ?, because it's rare to find anime map with reading mapping style. Nah I hope I'm helpful and won't change your style. Good luck ! :)
DeletedUser_6181859
DeletedUser_6181859
Hey from my queue, my name is Max 100bit, and this is my mod!
Well, opinion of modder is opinion of modder.
Do not judge strictly, I could be wrong.
And yep, I am just learning. My english is bad, so sorry for googletranslate.
===========
...I see in this mapset.
General - change resolution of all bg-pictures to 1366x768 and remove "Yukihara Style" (because you have it in diffname), "Nevo" (because it's you) and "2" from Tags
Also i think you don't need another timing-points except first
Normal - i can't mod this because you have REALLY BIG Distance Spacing. Change this to ~1.1.
Hard - change Slider Velosity to ~1.4 and read this guide
Yukihara Style - change Distance Spacing to ~1.6 and change Slider Velosity to ~1.6, also read same guide
DO NOT GIVE KUDOSU!
Good luck!
karstgalvis
67 posts
Joined January 2015
karstgalvis
hello :D
normal diff:
00:11:030 (1) - reverse slider? (3ticks) http://puu.sh/p6978/e12758a079.jpg
00:13:912 (3) - not sure about the velocity.
00:37:615 (2) - reverse slider instead of triplet
00:43:038 (3) - not sure about this. try something else

can't decide for other diffs. some places seems a bit off with the sliders, maybe it's just me.
example: last diff's 00:44:903 (11)
Nevo
Global Moderator
1,184 posts
Joined November 2015
Topic Starter
Nevo
Thank you for the mod
DeletedUser_2179411
DeletedUser_2179411
Hi

M4M from #Modreqs ..

Yukihara Style
00:05:098 (4) - Make he slider more beautiful ..
00:09:844 (3) - Stack the head of this slider with the previous slider which is 00:08:488 (1) -
00:11:369 (5,1,2) - http://i.imgur.com/N2gl4Uw.png make it like this ..
00:12:556 (2,3) - Use DS to make it more follow the beat .. Or you can make it like this -> http://i.imgur.com/zMQwWb7.png .. its up to you ..
00:16:115 (2) - Stack it with this slider at the tail -> 00:14:929 (2) -
00:17:980 (1) - Change this slider place .. it look not good .. sorry !
00:19:844 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - you can make it like this .. http://i.imgur.com/31sSJO5.png .. or any shape you like like Star ot square its up to you .. be creative ..
00:22:022 (1.2.3.4) - i should recommended for you to change the shape of your sliders .. cause its looks off .. sorry again !
00:24:733 (1,2,3,4) - ^ Same ..
00:31:513 (5) - Change the slider place please ..
00:32:022 (6) - Stack this circle with the next slider 00:32:530 (9) - This one ..
00:34:733 (6) - change the shape of this slider too ..
00:35:581 (9) - NC
00:37:615 (1,2) - make it like this .. it looks good .. http://i.imgur.com/pR4JzAg.png
00:42:360 (3) - make the tail of this slider stacks with the head of the previous slider ..
00:44:055 (8) - make this slider stacks with previous circle which is 6 ..
00:51:861 (1) - make this slider more beautiful ..
00:56:438 (2) - stack it with the previous circle 00:55:760 (4) - this one ..
01:08:991 (2) - Stack it with slider 4 ..
01:14:923 (2) - make this slider long to the next white line .. and change the slider (1,2) into lines without curves ..

ok so basically you can put the sliders and circles staking to each other .. so it will fit the pattern if you don't know where you should put it ,,
and you should respect DS .. cause it will help you ..
Most of my mod is stacking .. cause if you did .. you will not struggle with mapping thing ..
i hope i helped you ..
and GL in your map ..
Kantzm8
445 posts
Joined January 2016
Kantzm8
from #modreq

very quick mod

Yukihara
00:27:276 (1,2,3) - These notes are not stacked nicely. Change it so that both the x and the y value increases by 3-4 for each note in the triplet.
00:43:716 (7) - NC
01:14:584 (1,2) - Make these line up symmetrically for aesthetic purposes
umitya
74 posts
Joined April 2014
umitya
Normal
spacing 1.00


00:06:793 (1) - blanket
00:09:505 (1) - ^
00:11:539 (5) - reference; (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5372009)
00:15:946 (2) - check slider end reference
00:22:530 (2,3,4) - same shepe 00:22:022 (1) -
00:25:242 (4,5,6) - ^ 00:24:733 (3) -
00:38:801 (3) - ^ 00:38:293 (2) -
00:40:327 (2,3) - ^ 00:39:649 (1) -
00:56:607 (6) - put on space 1.00
00:59:319 (4) - same shepe 00:58:641 (3) -
and blanket
01:01:014 (6) - blanket
01:12:889 (5) - same shape 01:12:211 (4) -
01:13:567 (6) - NC
01:14:923 (1) - not NC

Hard
00:16:624 (4) - add NC
00:16:963 (5,6,7) - same shape 00:16:624 (4) -
00:19:844 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - same spacing please
00:22:022 (1,1,1,1,1) - slider end don't use finish sound
00:24:733 (1,1,1,1,1) - ^
00:24:394 (2) - slider start-end use finish sound
00:27:106 (2) - add finish sound
00:29:140 (7) - same shape 00:28:801 (6) -
00:31:005 (3) - ^ 00:30:666 (2) -
00:33:717 (3) - ^ 00:33:378 (2) -
00:31:343 (4) - don't need clap sound
00:34:056 (4) - ^
00:36:089 (10) - ^
00:37:445 (3) - ^
00:37:445 (3) - ^
00:45:750 (1,2,3) - ^
00:49:150 (4) - slider start add finish sound
00:54:234 (4) - same shape 00:53:895 (3) -
00:55:421 (3) - ^ 00:55:082 (2) -
00:56:438 (1) - blanket
00:56:946 (3) - same shape 00:56:607 (2) -
00:59:488 (1) - clap is 00:59:488 (1) - better
01:00:505 (1) - don't need finish sound
01:03:058 - slider end is here
01:10:347 (3) - blanket
01:10:516 (4,5) - Too much overlap
　　　　　　　　reference;　https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5372194
01:13:566 (1,2) - don't need clap
01:13:566 (1) - slider start add finish sound
01:15:431 (3) - blanket
01:18:143 (2) - blanket or specing 1.5
01:19:330 (1) - blanket
01:20:347 (4) - same shape 01:20:008 (3) -
01:21:697 (1,2,1,2) - same overlap 01:22:713 (1,2) -
Yukihara Style
00:12:556 (2,4) - overlap
00:14:251 (2) - same shape 00:13:912 (1) -
00:14:929 (2) - ^ 00:14:590 (1) -
00:14:590 (1,1) - overlap
00:19:844 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - same spacing
00:22:022 (1,2,3,4,5) - slider end don't use finish sound
00:24:733 (1,2,3,4,1) - ^
00:27:106 (2) - add finish sound
00:27:445 (3) - slider start add finish sound
00:31:343 (4) - don't use clap sound
00:34:056 (4) - ^
00:36:089 (2) - ^
00:37:445 (6) - ^
00:39:649 (7) - overlap
00:41:852 (1) - not new combo
00:42:360 (3) - add NC
00:43:547 (6,2) - overlap
00:45:751 (1,2,3) - not clap
00:49:150 (4) - add NC and add finish sound
00:59:488 (5) - not clap
00:57:624 (1) - not NC
01:03:397 - not finish sound
01:06:448 (2) - overlap
01:08:991 (2) - blanket
01:09:499 (4) - overlap
01:13:567 - add finish sound
01:17:296 (1) - NC
01:18:143 (2) - overlap
01:18:313 (3) - ^
01:18:991 - add finish sound
01:19:330 (1) - not NC
01:21:697 - add finish sound
01:22:205 - ^
01:22:713 - ^
01:23:222 - ^
01:23:730 - ^
01:24:069 - ^
01:24:408 - ^
01:24:917 - ^
01:25:425 - ^

That's all
Good lack! ;) ;)
Nevo
Global Moderator
1,184 posts
Joined November 2015
Topic Starter
Nevo

-soramaru- wrote:

Normal
spacing 1.00


00:06:793 (1) - blanket
00:09:505 (1) - ^
00:11:539 (5) - reference; (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5372009)
00:15:946 (2) - check slider end reference
00:22:530 (2,3,4) - same shepe 00:22:022 (1) -
00:25:242 (4,5,6) - ^ 00:24:733 (3) -
00:38:801 (3) - ^ 00:38:293 (2) -
00:40:327 (2,3) - ^ 00:39:649 (1) -
00:56:607 (6) - put on space 1.00
00:59:319 (4) - same shepe 00:58:641 (3) -
and blanket
01:01:014 (6) - blanket
01:12:889 (5) - same shape 01:12:211 (4) -
01:13:567 (6) - NC
01:14:923 (1) - not NC

Hard
00:16:624 (4) - add NC
00:16:963 (5,6,7) - same shape 00:16:624 (4) -
00:19:844 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - same spacing please
00:22:022 (1,1,1,1,1) - slider end don't use finish sound
00:24:733 (1,1,1,1,1) - ^
00:24:394 (2) - slider start-end use finish sound
00:27:106 (2) - add finish sound
00:29:140 (7) - same shape 00:28:801 (6) -
00:31:005 (3) - ^ 00:30:666 (2) -
00:33:717 (3) - ^ 00:33:378 (2) -
00:31:343 (4) - don't need clap sound
00:34:056 (4) - ^
00:36:089 (10) - ^
00:37:445 (3) - ^
00:37:445 (3) - ^
00:45:750 (1,2,3) - ^
00:49:150 (4) - slider start add finish sound
00:54:234 (4) - same shape 00:53:895 (3) -
00:55:421 (3) - ^ 00:55:082 (2) -
00:56:438 (1) - blanket
00:56:946 (3) - same shape 00:56:607 (2) -
00:59:488 (1) - clap is 00:59:488 (1) - better
01:00:505 (1) - don't need finish sound
01:03:058 - slider end is here
01:10:347 (3) - blanket
01:10:516 (4,5) - Too much overlap
　　　　　　　　reference;　https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5372194
01:13:566 (1,2) - don't need clap
01:13:566 (1) - slider start add finish sound
01:15:431 (3) - blanket
01:18:143 (2) - blanket or specing 1.5
01:19:330 (1) - blanket
01:20:347 (4) - same shape 01:20:008 (3) -
01:21:697 (1,2,1,2) - same overlap 01:22:713 (1,2) -
Yukihara Style
00:12:556 (2,4) - overlap
00:14:251 (2) - same shape 00:13:912 (1) -
00:14:929 (2) - ^ 00:14:590 (1) -
00:14:590 (1,1) - overlap
00:19:844 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - same spacing
00:22:022 (1,2,3,4,5) - slider end don't use finish sound
00:24:733 (1,2,3,4,1) - ^
00:27:106 (2) - add finish sound
00:27:445 (3) - slider start add finish sound
00:31:343 (4) - don't use clap sound
00:34:056 (4) - ^
00:36:089 (2) - ^
00:37:445 (6) - ^
00:39:649 (7) - overlap
00:41:852 (1) - not new combo
00:42:360 (3) - add NC
00:43:547 (6,2) - overlap
00:45:751 (1,2,3) - not clap
00:49:150 (4) - add NC and add finish sound
00:59:488 (5) - not clap
00:57:624 (1) - not NC
01:03:397 - not finish sound
01:06:448 (2) - overlap
01:08:991 (2) - blanket
01:09:499 (4) - overlap
01:13:567 - add finish sound
01:17:296 (1) - NC
01:18:143 (2) - overlap
01:18:313 (3) - ^
01:18:991 - add finish sound
01:19:330 (1) - not NC
01:21:697 - add finish sound
01:22:205 - ^
01:22:713 - ^
01:23:222 - ^
01:23:730 - ^
01:24:069 - ^
01:24:408 - ^
01:24:917 - ^
01:25:425 - ^

That's all
Good lack! ;) ;)
Thank You! I'm really bad at hitsounds
roshan117
144 posts
Joined April 2016
roshan117
This was from my queue!

Normal
01:23:730 (1,2) - Replace the hitcircles 1 and 2 with a slider,because having 2 hitcircles kinda feels out of place. (make sure to add the hitsounds to both the beginning and the end of the slider)
01:20:855 (4,5) - Replace these 2 hitcircles with a slider also (remember to have hitsounds on both ends of the slider!)
overall
Your beatmap was done really sollid (that's why I only have 2 suggestions), and you are a really good beatmapper. I hope my mods have helped, and I wish the best for this map.
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roshan117 wrote:

This was from my queue!

Normal
01:23:730 (1,2) - Replace the hitcircles 1 and 2 with a slider,because having 2 hitcircles kinda feels out of place. (make sure to add the hitsounds to both the beginning and the end of the slider)
01:20:855 (4,5) - Replace these 2 hitcircles with a slider also (remember to have hitsounds on both ends of the slider!)
overall
Your beatmap was done really sollid (that's why I only have 2 suggestions), and you are a really good beatmapper. I hope my mods have helped, and I wish the best for this map.
Thank You! :)
Net0
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Hello there, another TV size \o/ . Shokugeki is all about the 'plot' :3
Small mods suggestions, take ALL of this as suggestion

General:
You can add "tv size" into the tags, is really helpful. Considering this anime you can also tag the content of it into the tags, such as food, shounen, ecchi, etc.


Timing:

1)
You can always improve the music by making specific parts of the song with higher hit sound notes or lower ones. I can make a suggestion, at 00:27:276 - you can make the hitsound lower and rise it at 00:49:150 -

Compose:

Yukihira Insane

1) At this point 00:04:420 (3,4) - there's a place for a single note there, following the vocals, it would look like this

But remember it's a suggestion

2)About combos: I would start a new combo here 00:19:336 (5) - , Instead of this 00:03:064 (1,2) - I would use this 00:03:064 (3,1) - , Instead of this 00:05:098 (4,1,2) - I would go with 00:05:098 (4,1,1) - Same goes to this 00:07:810 (3,1,2) - -> 00:07:810 (3,1,1) - . Start new combo here 00:51:861 (3) -

3) The flow here it's really odd 00:37:616 (1,2,1,2) - , it's playable, but I think you can improve this

Really liked this song, hope you can rank this :D
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well that happened 8-)
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MAP IS UNDER HEAVY REMAPPING 4 Thanks to #modhelp i actual know what I'm doing :D
edit: 1/3 of the way done I've rammapped Yukihara Style 6 times and I finally think I got it perfect.
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15:13 Nevo: is it not ok to use many red
15:14 Exa: Well
15:14 Exa: Red anchors create a very intense curve
15:14 Exa: And when you have calm vocals and some electric guitar on the back
15:14 Exa: And you constantly use such intense curves
15:14 Nevo: that makes sense
15:14 Exa: It seems weir
15:14 Exa: d
15:14 Nevo: I like the curve look
15:15 Exa: How it looks it //ok//
15:15 Nevo: but i agree
15:15 Exa: How it plays it the problem
15:16 Exa: Also try to find a relatively calm curve like 00:28:796 (8) -
15:16 Exa: And just copy/ paste the slider
15:16 Exa: so it doesn't look like you constantly make new sliders with new curves
15:16 Nevo: maybe it was because i was trying to "fit" the notes like a puzzke
15:16 Nevo: puzzle*
15:16 Exa: use ctrl+g h j to move it around
15:16 Exa: and ctrl+r to rotate
15:16 Nevo: i know
15:16 Exa: Egh yeah trying to fit in the sliders like a puzzle seems more like a robot made this
15:16 Nevo: lol
15:16 Nevo: maybe i am one
15:17 Exa: It's nice to have that human imperfection as an aesthetic touch
15:17 Exa: Maybe you are :o
15:17 Nevo: i still dont know what structure means
15:17 Nevo: kibberu mentioned it
15:17 Nevo: and i forgot to ask
15:17 Exa: Egh that's
15:17 Exa: Hm
15:17 Exa: Let me try to give you a short definition
15:17 Nevo: i kinda get it
15:17 Nevo: but not 100%
15:18 Exa: A map is well-structured when all objects are somehow related to eachother with a common logic behind their relationships
15:18 Nevo: so my map isnt
15:18 Nevo: or kinda is
15:18 Exa: Like if there is a slider and a note
15:18 Exa: and these are blanketed
15:18 Exa: then they are structured, aestheticaly
15:19 Nevo: i follow
15:19 Exa: hm?
15:19 Nevo: i understand what your saying
15:19 Nevo: just does my map have any structure
15:20 Exa: It doesn't look like it
15:20 Exa: If you think you know exactly why everything is the way it is
15:20 Exa: Then it has structure
15:20 Nevo: oh
15:20 Exa: But the structure that you might see, is not apparent to me
15:20 Nevo: makes sense
15:20 Exa: 00:08:488 (2,1,2) - Like how are these 3 connected
15:20 Exa: 00:24:389 (2,1) - Why make that overlap
15:21 Exa: 00:25:237 (2,4) - Why not stack
15:21 Exa: 00:28:628 (7,1) - Again overlap
15:21 Exa: That's for aesthetics
15:21 Exa: It's sutff like these that make me/ anyone question whether or not your map has structure
15:21 Exa: any structure*
15:21 Nevo: makes sense
15:21 Nevo: thank you for finally explain it
15:21 Nevo: one more thing
15:22 Nevo: does my map sound right
15:22 Exa: "sound"?
15:22 Exa: maps don't sound
15:22 Exa: they play
15:22 Nevo: because no one said anything about if i even have to notes correct
15:22 Nevo: well
15:22 Nevo: i mean do the circles make sense
15:22 Exa: what do you mean by "sound"
15:22 Nevo: im not over or unmapping
15:22 Nevo: under
15:23 Nevo: or do the circles and sliders fit the song
15:23 Nevo: idk how to ask this
15:23 Exa: if you mean the rhythm, then I can definitely spot more than a few mistakes
15:23 Exa: 00:33:372 (2) - A quick one is this
15:23 Exa: You start sliders on red ticks
15:23 Exa: Which result in skipping/ not having the player tap on the white ticks
15:23 Exa: which usually contain stronger beats
15:23 Exa: You are asking me if the rhythm that you've used is right
15:23 Exa: And I am answering XD
15:24 Nevo: lol
15:24 Exa: 00:39:644 (3) - I like how you always start the next 4 measures with a 1/1 slider
15:24 Exa: 00:41:000 (1) -
15:24 Exa: 00:42:355 (1) -
15:24 Exa: 00:43:711 (2) - And you just deside to stop doing that here
15:25 Exa: 00:44:898 (1) - And then there's this
15:25 Exa: 1/1 starting on red
15:25 Exa: there's a huge-ass beat right in the middle of the slider which the player cannot tap on XD
15:25 Nevo: i fixed it
15:25 Nevo: thanks for that lol
15:26 Exa: There are more little mistakes like that so be on the lookout
15:26 Exa: 00:46:254 (4,4) -
15:26 Exa: 00:49:982 (3) - ????
15:26 Exa: 00:51:338 (2) -
15:27 Exa: 00:54:558 (1,3) - You keep making these weird overlaps
15:27 Nevo: 01:02:734 (6) - is this ok at all
15:27 Nevo: XD
15:27 Nevo: i need to do fine movement
15:27 Exa: well um
15:27 Exa: it's not //nad//
15:27 Exa: bad*
15:27 Exa: it's just
15:27 Nevo: i ont like it
15:27 Exa: weird to be there out of a sudden
15:27 Nevo: i hear a note there though
15:28 Exa: 00:55:067 (2) - Dude these sliders look like they tripped and fell and broke their leg omg
15:28 Nevo: i abuse my map
15:28 Exa: Yeah there is a beat in there
15:28 Nevo: when the sliders dont listen i snap them and bend them to my will
15:29 Exa: oh shit
15:29 Exa: sliders beware
15:29 Nevo: *snap*
15:29 Nevo: so its ok to use red points like here01:22:867 (2) -
15:29 Exa: It's not about whether or not it's ok
15:30 Nevo: because the note hits "harder" then vocals
15:30 Exa: Sure it's ok
15:30 Exa: Does it look good though?
15:30 Exa: Did it play good?
15:30 Nevo: posibly
15:30 Nevo: lol
15:30 Nevo: i have some heavy fine tuning
15:30 Nevo: if i can call it that
15:30 Exa: You can emphasize strong vocals in other ways than using red anchors
15:30 Exa: I personaly rarely use red anchors
15:30 Nevo: deathstreams \=D/
15:30 Exa: *only red anchors
15:31 Nevo: i dont only use red
15:31 Exa: *only red anchors on a slider
15:31 Exa: You can just cut the flow if you want to emphasize something that bad
15:31 Nevo: makes sense
15:31 Nevo: 01:22:867 (2) -
15:31 Exa: Like if the flow is going right, make a slightly curved slider that will turn the player to the left
15:31 Nevo: again with that slider
15:31 Nevo: doesnt it seem off
15:32 Nevo: any way you think i can fix it?
15:32 Exa: yes
15:32 Exa: because it starts on a red tick
15:32 Exa: and the player taps on a very quiet note
15:32 Nevo: whoops
15:32 Exa: a fix would be to not use a slider there
15:32 Nevo: wrong note
15:32 Nevo: 01:02:734 (6) -
15:32 Exa: but start a slider on the previous white tick instead
15:32 Nevo: that obne
15:32 Exa: oh
15:33 Nevo: lol
15:33 Exa: well yeah
15:33 Exa: there's a beat in the middle of it
15:33 Exa: so I'd say to cut the low SV
15:33 Exa: and map it as a normal 1/1
15:33 Exa: it's weird to lower the SV when the vocals go ham
15:33 Nevo: wut is 1/1
15:33 Nevo: wait
15:33 Nevo: im dumb
15:33 Nevo: nv,
15:33 Nevo: nvm
15:34 Exa: XD
15:34 Exa: It's 2/1
15:34 Nevo: yeah\
15:34 Nevo: i never change the snap divsor
15:34 Nevo: is it ok to increase the spacing in the kai time bit
15:34 Exa: well that's no problem
15:34 Nevo: i alreadt did
15:35 Exa: sure
15:35 Nevo: thank you again very much
15:36 Nevo: now to but this conversation somewhere so i dont lose it
15:36 Nevo: XD
15:36 Exa: do /savelog
15:36 Exa: ;3

Thanks So Much Exa :D
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Hi! From #modreqs
[Yukihara Style]
First, We talk about the hitsound issue.
(1) Whistle : Actually, a whistle is hard to use. It used to be emphasized that you want. If you can't make head nor tail of something, add at every red beats.
(2) Finish : A finish add when you hear the cymbals sound, or when you want to emphasize strongly.
(3) Clap : Especially the clap sound in your map is very irregular. I recommend to you add a clap at every white beat of second and fourth.

Next, I'll teach you about the NC cycle.
A NC is usually added at every downbeats(In the Easy and Normal diff, usually added at every two downbeats). The explain about downbeat is every white beat of first. It looks longer than other white beats. Most mappers add a NC like this. Exceptionally, add it when the song was separate from front part. Another case, add it when you emphasize pattern or note very very strongly.

Your map didn't follow like this, so you must fix two issue that I said above.

■ 00:58:287 (3,4) - Why this spacing is same with front circle? It need to give more distance that the rhythm is longer than other, otherwise it will be rhythm misreading to player.
■ 01:03:410 (1,2,3,4) - It's undermapped. You ignored sound a lot that you must express. Listen once again and remap this part.

You have to study about the patterns refer to other map of good mappers. Your slider usage disturb the flow and also looks not good for visible stability. I think that you make the rhythm on whole song is better than other issue. Yes, you can make better map soon if you study hard to make the nice pattern.

I hope that you fix the NC and the hitsound in whole of your mapset first. It's a lot more neat that way.
Anyway, I hope this mod's kinda useful.. good luck with this!
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Down's big help
2016-06-20 01:06 Nevo: hello thank you for modding ,my map
2016-06-20 01:06 Nevo: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/968525 ULTRA TOWER - Kibou no Uta (TV Size) [Yukihara Style]]
2016-06-20 01:06 Down: np~
2016-06-20 01:06 Nevo: i have a question
2016-06-20 01:07 Nevo: mainly about how my sliders break the flow
2016-06-20 01:08 Down: 00:16:963 (2,1) - Do you think that this flow is fine?
2016-06-20 01:09 Nevo: no
2016-06-20 01:09 Nevo: i was looking for a example
2016-06-20 01:09 Nevo: thank you very much
2016-06-20 01:10 Nevo: its been very hard to fix things because no one tells me what good and whats not
2016-06-20 01:10 Nevo: thank you fo providing a example
2016-06-20 01:10 Nevo: also
2016-06-20 01:10 Nevo: you have the most helpful mod as I had no idea how to hit sound
2016-06-20 01:11 Down: oh.. I glad to hear that xD
2016-06-20 01:11 Down: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5431928 Making like this is better flow imo
2016-06-20 01:12 Down: and you copy 00:17:302 (1) - this slider and paste at 00:17:641
2016-06-20 01:12 Down: then rotate 60 degree
2016-06-20 01:14 Down: "copy" is very useful on mapping.
2016-06-20 01:14 Down: ctrl + shift + r : rotate function key
2016-06-20 01:14 Nevo: what is 00:17:302 (1) - supposed to look like
2016-06-20 01:14 Nevo: i think60 degree is off
2016-06-20 01:15 Nevo: i use copy and ctrl shift r
2016-06-20 01:15 Down: oh
2016-06-20 01:15 Down: -60 degree
2016-06-20 01:15 Nevo: lol
2016-06-20 01:15 Down: kk sorry ;w;
2016-06-20 01:16 Nevo: like this http://puu.sh/pzdwT/085367247d.jpg
2016-06-20 01:16 Down: Cool
2016-06-20 01:18 Down: I introduce useful site for mapping.
2016-06-20 01:18 Down: t/208596
2016-06-20 01:19 Down: You can make sliders neat if you read that.
2016-06-20 01:19 Nevo: http://puu.sh/pzdDl/6f07f03dbe.jpg
2016-06-20 01:19 Nevo: oh thx
2016-06-20 01:20 Down: Any good luck, now I'll mod other maps.
2016-06-20 01:20 Nevo: thank you very much
2016-06-20 02:19 Nevo: can you look at my map again?
2016-06-20 02:21 Down: omg.. much better!
2016-06-20 02:21 Nevo: YES!
2016-06-20 02:21 Down: especially 00:01:369 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - this part is awesome
2016-06-20 02:22 Nevo: i have a few bad bits
2016-06-20 02:22 Nevo: but i think i finally get it
2016-06-20 02:31 Down: umm
2016-06-20 02:31 Down: But still wrong the NC cycle.
2016-06-20 02:31 Down: http://puu.sh/pzgmK/8dde42af30.PNG
2016-06-20 02:31 Down: Can you see the long white tick?
2016-06-20 02:32 Nevo: yes
2016-06-20 02:32 Down: You must be add NC here.
2016-06-20 02:32 Down: and remove rest NC.
2016-06-20 02:33 Nevo: where
2016-06-20 02:34 Down: Every long white ticks
2016-06-20 02:34 Nevo: all of them?
2016-06-20 02:34 Nevo: oh wait
2016-06-20 02:34 Nevo: ohhhhh
2016-06-20 02:35 Down: yes but not small white tick.
2016-06-20 02:35 Down: only long white ticks
2016-06-20 02:35 Nevo: what about 00:12:556 (2) -
2016-06-20 02:35 Nevo: its weird
2016-06-20 02:37 Down: It's not weird to background music.
2016-06-20 02:37 Nevo: where i put the nc
2016-06-20 02:37 Nevo: i mean
2016-06-20 02:37 Down: don't focus the vocal sound.
2016-06-20 02:37 Down: 00:12:556 (1) - yes
2016-06-20 02:37 Down: here
2016-06-20 02:37 Down: 00:12:217 (1) - remove NC here
2016-06-20 02:38 Down: 00:13:912 (4,1) - NC swap
2016-06-20 02:39 Down: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5432239 It's easy.. just add a NC every downbeats.
2016-06-20 02:41 Nevo: there
2016-06-20 02:41 Nevo: i think i fixed them
2016-06-20 02:42 Nevo: whoops
2016-06-20 02:42 Nevo: forgot some
2016-06-20 02:42 Down: gj It's correct.
2016-06-20 02:46 Down: Please one more check the clap.
2016-06-20 02:46 Down: Add it every white beat of "second and fourth".
2016-06-20 02:46 Nevo: whoops i removed notes and forgot to fix that
2016-06-20 02:47 Down: lol
2016-06-20 02:51 Down: I've got to get out.
2016-06-20 02:51 Down: I'll recheck later.
2016-06-20 02:51 Nevo: same
2016-06-20 02:51 Nevo: thank you very much
Thank You A LOT Down :D :D :D :D :D
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Hi ~ NM request from #Modreq

[Metadata]
- add tv size for the title like this "希望の唄 (TV Size)"
- remove "Nevo and Yukihara style" because its aiready exist on the beatmap (Diff name and Author name)
- 01:03:494 - why kiai time here? i think the kiai time must started here 01:02:734 and ended here 01:21:681
[box=Hard]
okay about the BG,the BG Size for this diff is unrankable (1197x768) maybe you must search another BG ~ for this diff

about the NC ~ your NC on this diff looks inconsistent ~ example : 00:02:725 (2,1) and 00:09:166 (9,1)

Down wrote:

Next, I'll teach you about the NC cycle.
A NC is usually added at every downbeats(In the Easy and Normal diff, usually added at every two downbeats). The explain about downbeat is every white <a href="#">beat</a> of first. It looks longer than other white beats. Most mappers add a NC like this. Exceptionally, add it when the song was separate from front part. Another case, add it when you emphasize pattern or note very very strongly.
^ follow the advice from Down

00:22:017 (1,2,1,2) - why u use slider with same shape and same place? i think its looks very confuse
00:24:728 (1,2,1,2) - ^
00:27:271 (1,3) - stacked
00:53:542 (1,4) - ^
00:56:000 (4) - move this slider to previuos white tick (00:55:915)
00:59:473 (5,7) - bad overlap
01:03:410 - add circle here
01:06:790 (3,5) - bad overlap
01:09:663 (1,3) - ^
01:11:015 (5,7) - ^
01:13:550 (5,1) - ^
01:14:397 (2,4) - imperfect stacked
01:16:261 (1,2,2) - bad overlap
01:18:295 (4,1) - ^
01:23:375 (2,2) - ^
01:24:901 (1,1) - maybe stacked?

hmmmm this diff looks bad in terms of NC,Blanket,Rhythm,Hitsound.Pattern and etc ~ maybe you should remap this diff ~ (suggestion)

GL ~
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To bad I'm putting it here until you do.
2016-06-21 00:32 Modorenai: normal only?
2016-06-21 00:32 Nevo: yes
2016-06-21 00:32 Modorenai: free kudos for blanket requests?
2016-06-21 00:32 Modorenai: :O
2016-06-21 00:32 Nevo: its bad
2016-06-21 00:32 Modorenai: WHOAH
2016-06-21 00:32 Nevo: k
2016-06-21 00:32 Modorenai: WJHPOAH
2016-06-21 00:32 Nevo: WOAH
2016-06-21 00:32 Modorenai: WOOOOOW
2016-06-21 00:32 Modorenai: FREE KDS
2016-06-21 00:32 Modorenai: EVERYONE
2016-06-21 00:32 Modorenai: GET IN HERE
2016-06-21 00:32 Nevo: lol
2016-06-21 00:32 Modorenai: FREE KDS
2016-06-21 00:33 Modorenai: :D
2016-06-21 00:33 Modorenai: I kinda just woke up
2016-06-21 00:33 Nevo: if you make a post thats not "its good" i give kudos
2016-06-21 00:33 Nevo: lol
2016-06-21 00:33 Nevo: its 4 am
2016-06-21 00:33 Nevo: i wanna get feedback
2016-06-21 00:33 Modorenai: 10:33 am
2016-06-21 00:33 Modorenai: :D
2016-06-21 00:33 Nevo: been mapping for so long
2016-06-21 00:35 Modorenai: okay
2016-06-21 00:35 Modorenai: first things
2016-06-21 00:35 Modorenai: it's a normal
2016-06-21 00:35 Modorenai: so you should avoid overlapping
2016-06-21 00:36 Nevo: lol
2016-06-21 00:36 Modorenai: 00:48:457 (2,2) -
2016-06-21 00:36 Modorenai: like here
2016-06-21 00:36 Modorenai: they are on the screen at the same time
2016-06-21 00:37 Modorenai: 01:20:330 (3,4) - why are these so close to eachother
2016-06-21 00:37 Nevo: is this better http://puu.sh/pAorp/fe956603f4.jpg
2016-06-21 00:37 Nevo: idek
2016-06-21 00:37 Nevo: lol
2016-06-21 00:37 Nevo: fixed
2016-06-21 00:38 Modorenai: hmm
2016-06-21 00:38 Modorenai: 00:01:369 (1,2,1,2) -
2016-06-21 00:38 Modorenai: all is fine
2016-06-21 00:38 Nevo: its weird
2016-06-21 00:39 Modorenai: well
2016-06-21 00:39 Modorenai: today's mapping
2016-06-21 00:39 Modorenai: .. :D
2016-06-21 00:39 Nevo: i updated
2016-06-21 00:39 Modorenai: 00:01:369 (1) - like, i'd split it into circle and slider
2016-06-21 00:40 Modorenai: 00:49:644 (2,3) -
2016-06-21 00:40 Modorenai: you just
2016-06-21 00:40 Nevo: wow that's better lol
2016-06-21 00:40 Modorenai: created
2016-06-21 00:40 Modorenai: a huge jump
2016-06-21 00:40 Nevo: rip
2016-06-21 00:40 Modorenai: :o
2016-06-21 00:40 Nevo: yeah let me play around with it
2016-06-21 00:40 Nevo: the sliders are big af
2016-06-21 00:41 Nevo: ok
2016-06-21 00:41 Nevo: i got it!
2016-06-21 00:42 Nevo: updated
2016-06-21 00:42 Nevo: again
2016-06-21 00:42 Modorenai: 00:04:420 (1) - 2x 1/1 slider would be nice, but here again
2016-06-21 00:42 Modorenai: I actually shouldn't suggest much rhythm changes, even if they are nice
2016-06-21 00:42 Modorenai: xD
2016-06-21 00:43 Modorenai: also
2016-06-21 00:43 Modorenai: you NC too often
2016-06-21 00:43 Nevo: i used the same nc i did with the other diffs
2016-06-21 00:43 Nevo: im not really good at it
2016-06-21 00:44 Modorenai: 00:01:708 (1) - remove this nc
2016-06-21 00:44 Modorenai: 00:03:064 (1) - remove this nc
2016-06-21 00:44 Modorenai: and so on
2016-06-21 00:44 Modorenai: 00:04:081 (2) - could start nc from here
2016-06-21 00:45 Modorenai: like
2016-06-21 00:45 Modorenai: if you listen to the song
2016-06-21 00:45 Nevo: yeah
2016-06-21 00:45 Nevo: but some people say im inconsistant
2016-06-21 00:45 Nevo: lol
2016-06-21 00:45 Modorenai: well
2016-06-21 00:45 Modorenai: since it's normal
2016-06-21 00:46 Modorenai: it has got not so many hitobjects
2016-06-21 00:46 Modorenai: so nc over 2 big white ticks is most common
2016-06-21 00:46 Nevo: OHHHHH
2016-06-21 00:46 Modorenai: so your numbers would stay below 10
2016-06-21 00:46 Nevo: thats what that guy meant
2016-06-21 00:46 Nevo: some guy said change it like that
2016-06-21 00:46 Nevo: but he had really broken english
2016-06-21 00:46 Nevo: so it came out... welll it made no sense
2016-06-21 00:47 Modorenai: xd
2016-06-21 00:47 Modorenai: also, blanketing on lower diffs is really important imo, since it looks clean and easy to read :)
2016-06-21 00:48 Nevo: i have no idea how to make ar4 clean
2016-06-21 00:48 Nevo: xD
2016-06-21 00:48 Nevo: i tried
2016-06-21 00:48 Nevo: but they kinda bunch up
2016-06-21 00:48 Modorenai: well
2016-06-21 00:48 Modorenai: have you checked out other maps
2016-06-21 00:48 Nevo: yes
2016-06-21 00:49 Nevo: its hard to me
2016-06-21 00:49 Nevo: looking at normal and easy diffs
2016-06-21 00:49 Nevo: im weird
2016-06-21 00:49 Nevo: lol
2016-06-21 00:50 Modorenai: like
2016-06-21 00:50 Modorenai: mappers these days are kinda lazy with normal/easy diffs
2016-06-21 00:51 Nevo: lol
2016-06-21 00:51 Nevo: i dont think im lazy
2016-06-21 00:51 Nevo: i just have no idea how to do them
2016-06-21 00:53 Modorenai: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/207848 MuryokuP - Sweet Sweet Cendrillon Drug [Normal]]
2016-06-21 00:54 Nevo: kk
2016-06-21 00:54 Nevo: thx for the help
2016-06-21 00:54 Modorenai: but
2016-06-21 00:54 Modorenai: I'm not done :o
2016-06-21 00:54 Nevo: oh
2016-06-21 00:54 Nevo: lol
2016-06-21 00:55 Modorenai: also
2016-06-21 00:55 Modorenai: one of your mods mentioned consistant distance spacing
2016-06-21 00:55 Modorenai: so yeah
2016-06-21 00:57 Modorenai: t/368245/start=0
2016-06-21 00:57 Nevo: yeah i fixed most of it now i think
2016-06-21 00:57 Modorenai: :o
2016-06-21 00:57 Modorenai: damn dude
2016-06-21 00:58 Modorenai: idk what i just did
2016-06-21 00:58 Modorenai: but this looks nice
2016-06-21 00:58 Modorenai: :D
2016-06-21 00:58 Nevo: lol
2016-06-21 00:58 Modorenai: CRTL+G 00:03:064 (1)
2016-06-21 00:58 Modorenai: also you could improve the blanket of it.. :D https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5438955
2016-06-21 00:59 Modorenai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5438960
2016-06-21 00:59 Modorenai: it looks nice
2016-06-21 00:59 Nevo: wow
2016-06-21 00:59 Nevo: XD
2016-06-21 00:59 Nevo: that is better
2016-06-21 00:59 Modorenai: and avoids a little bit the the circular movement you have way too much of
2016-06-21 00:59 Modorenai: in the beginning
2016-06-21 00:59 Nevo: yeah i thought it was weird
2016-06-21 01:00 Modorenai: 00:07:132 (1,2,1,1,1) -
2016-06-21 01:00 Modorenai: should find another placement for these
2016-06-21 01:01 Modorenai: first 10 seconds
2016-06-21 01:01 Modorenai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5438967
2016-06-21 01:01 Modorenai: do you get what im hinting?
2016-06-21 01:01 Modorenai: :D
2016-06-21 01:03 Modorenai: also, stack00:06:793 (2) - with 00:05:437 (2) -
2016-06-21 01:03 Modorenai: or wait..
2016-06-21 01:04 Nevo: im updating
2016-06-21 01:04 Nevo: updated
2016-06-21 01:05 Modorenai: 00:05:776 (1,2,1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5438981 meh but better than going into the same place again :D
2016-06-21 01:06 Modorenai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5438988
2016-06-21 01:07 Modorenai: this is perfect blanket :D
2016-06-21 01:07 Nevo: i think i got it
2016-06-21 01:07 Nevo: im submitting
2016-06-21 01:07 Nevo: update it
2016-06-21 01:08 Modorenai: 00:03:064 (4) -
2016-06-21 01:09 Modorenai: fix this blanket and then start arranging everything
2016-06-21 01:09 Modorenai: xD
2016-06-21 01:10 Nevo: omfg
2016-06-21 01:10 Nevo: i think i got it Again!
2016-06-21 01:10 Modorenai: you moved 00:05:776 (3) - :o
2016-06-21 01:10 Nevo: wait
2016-06-21 01:11 Nevo: im updating it again
2016-06-21 01:11 Nevo: lol
2016-06-21 01:11 Modorenai: dude
2016-06-21 01:11 Modorenai: lol
2016-06-21 01:11 Modorenai: 00:04:420 (1) and 00:07:132 (1) -
2016-06-21 01:11 Modorenai: just because
2016-06-21 01:11 Modorenai: i show you something nice
2016-06-21 01:11 Nevo: ok update it again'
2016-06-21 01:11 Modorenai: doesn't mean you have to copypaste xD
2016-06-21 01:11 Nevo: i changed it
2016-06-21 01:11 Nevo: lol
2016-06-21 01:11 Modorenai: sure
2016-06-21 01:12 Modorenai: the rhythm remains the same
2016-06-21 01:12 Modorenai: but pathing should not repeat itself xD
2016-06-21 01:12 Modorenai: unless the song requires it
2016-06-21 01:12 Nevo: its a big circle
2016-06-21 01:12 Nevo: lol
2016-06-21 01:12 Nevo: but they dont overlap anymore
2016-06-21 01:14 Modorenai: well yeah
2016-06-21 01:14 Modorenai: :D
2016-06-21 01:14 Nevo: is it good
2016-06-21 01:14 Modorenai: Well
2016-06-21 01:14 Modorenai: If you would blanket it
2016-06-21 01:14 Modorenai: then I'd say yes
2016-06-21 01:14 Modorenai: :D
2016-06-21 01:14 Nevo: can i get a picture
2016-06-21 01:14 Nevo: of wut you mean
2016-06-21 01:15 Nevo: i think im blanketing the wrong stuff
2016-06-21 01:15 Modorenai: dno how you can do that
2016-06-21 01:15 Modorenai: xD
2016-06-21 01:15 Nevo: hmmm
2016-06-21 01:15 Modorenai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5439021
2016-06-21 01:15 Modorenai: 00:03:064 (4) -
2016-06-21 01:16 Nevo: ohhhhhhhhh
2016-06-21 01:16 Modorenai: literally
2016-06-21 01:16 Nevo: i get it
2016-06-21 01:16 Modorenai: use the approach circles
2016-06-21 01:16 Modorenai: to blanket
2016-06-21 01:16 Modorenai: easy
2016-06-21 01:16 Modorenai: also, you might want to disable grid snap while you're blanketing
2016-06-21 01:16 Modorenai: it's easier that way imo
2016-06-21 01:18 Modorenai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5439031 you probably saw this too
2016-06-21 01:18 Modorenai: well
2016-06-21 01:20 Modorenai: 00:19:671 (6,7,8) - this could be a pattern
2016-06-21 01:20 Nevo: k
2016-06-21 01:22 Nevo: http://puu.sh/pAqcU/7d1c072e33.jpg
2016-06-21 01:22 Modorenai: like, atm it's just straight sth :D
2016-06-21 01:22 Nevo: better?
2016-06-21 01:22 Nevo: lol
2016-06-21 01:22 Nevo: ok i have got to go to sleep
2016-06-21 01:22 Modorenai: yus
2016-06-21 01:22 Modorenai: triangles
2016-06-21 01:22 Modorenai: :D
2016-06-21 01:22 Nevo: its going onto 530
2016-06-21 01:22 Nevo: lol
2016-06-21 01:22 Nevo: am
2016-06-21 01:22 Nevo: umm
2016-06-21 01:22 Nevo: anything else but it on the forum
2016-06-21 01:22 Nevo: oh wait
2016-06-21 01:22 Nevo: one last update
2016-06-21 01:23 Modorenai: well
2016-06-21 01:23 Modorenai: I'm not gonna give you a mod
2016-06-21 01:23 Modorenai: unless you propely blanket stuff, if you intend to blanket, but i'd suggest it
2016-06-21 01:24 Modorenai: and improve your play area usage
2016-06-21 01:24 Nevo: you can just say a sentence
2016-06-21 01:24 Nevo: ill give youkudos
2016-06-21 01:24 Nevo: you help me out a lot
2016-06-21 01:24 Nevo: lol
2016-06-21 01:24 Modorenai: .. xD
2016-06-21 01:24 Modorenai: well
2016-06-21 01:24 Nevo: i feel you did
2016-06-21 01:24 Modorenai: I'd have to post this conversation
2016-06-21 01:24 Modorenai: but I'm too lazy
2016-06-21 01:24 Nevo: i have ot
2016-06-21 01:24 Nevo: /savelog
2016-06-21 01:25 Nevo: so il post
2016-06-21 01:25 Modorenai: well
2016-06-21 01:25 Nevo: so no one thinks i gave u kudos for nothing lul
2016-06-21 01:25 Modorenai: you cant give kudos to me
2016-06-21 01:25 Nevo: up to you
2016-06-21 01:25 Modorenai: xD
2016-06-21 01:25 Nevo: a sentence in the forum
2016-06-21 01:25 Nevo: is like one kudos
2016-06-21 01:25 Modorenai: well
2016-06-21 01:25 Modorenai: to get kds
2016-06-21 01:26 Modorenai: you'd need at least 3 suggestions
2016-06-21 01:26 Nevo: ok
2016-06-21 01:26 Nevo: well
2016-06-21 01:26 Nevo: how about you copy and paste thos talk
2016-06-21 01:26 Nevo: lul
2016-06-21 01:26 Modorenai: xD
2016-06-21 01:26 Nevo: just do /savelog
2016-06-21 01:26 Modorenai: well; I said i'm too lazy
2016-06-21 01:26 Modorenai: :D
2016-06-21 01:26 Nevo: welp
2016-06-21 01:26 Modorenai: do you know where osu folder is located? :D
2016-06-21 01:26 Modorenai: you literally
2016-06-21 01:27 Nevo: C:\Users\Me\AppData\Local\osu!\Chat
2016-06-21 01:27 Modorenai: have to go to options
2016-06-21 01:27 Nevo: replace me obv
2016-06-21 01:27 Nevo: lol
2016-06-21 01:27 Modorenai: and press that open osu folder
2016-06-21 01:27 Modorenai: like dam
2016-06-21 01:27 Nevo: you can open skin folder
2016-06-21 01:27 Nevo: then go back
2016-06-21 01:27 Nevo: xd
2016-06-21 01:29 Nevo: well im off
2016-06-21 01:29 Nevo: ill messege you later
Hpocks
445 posts
Joined January 2015
Hpocks
Returning m4m

[General]

  1. IIRC, the images you use as backgrounds need to have dimensions of exactly 800 x 600 (I needed to do that for my map). You could reduce the size of the background images through any simple photo editor (I actually crop mine in MS paint lol)
[Normal]
  1. 00:03:064 (4) - Move down one grid space (on tiny) to fit blanket
  2. 00:05:776 (3) - Move down one grid space to avoid claustrophobia with 00:04:420 (1) -
  3. 00:07:132 (1) - ^, but to the right
  4. 00:08:488 (3) - Snap dat boi!
  5. 00:12:556 (1,2) - Would be better if they were the same slider, you know what I mean.
  6. 00:12:556 (1,3) - Thats an overlap. Place it directily over the tail of (2) if youd like, but dont leave it like that
  7. 00:17:302 (3,5) - O V E R L A P
  8. 00:20:676 - There is a strong clickable note here that you dont take advantage of. This is one of those moments when you want to click because it is a high note in the song, but it is just a lousy slider tail. Perhaps try to edit the area around it to make this note clickable
  9. 00:24:728 (1,4) - Would look better if these were congruent
  10. 00:26:762 (5,6,1) - Is this distance snap intrustion intentional?
  11. 00:30:661 (7) - Would fit better with (6) if moved up one and one to the right
  12. 00:36:932 (3,5) - I think this overlap is intentional, but it is ugly. Try making (5) directly on top of the (3) slider (in the DS constraints of course)
  13. 00:38:288 (5,6) - Ok you cant have an overlapped blanket.
  14. 00:40:322 (2,3) - Move 3 down a bit so 2 flows in it. Like if you kept going in the direction the tail is moving of (2), it would flow into (3) like a halfpipe
  15. 00:41:508 (4) - This might be difficult to read. I suggest contacting a BN (https://osu.ppy.sh/g/28) for this
  16. 00:43:711 (3,1) - Should be on the same place, should it not? (The tail of 3 being on the head of 1)
  17. 00:50:491 (1,3) - Again, I would excuse this overlap if the tail of (3) was aligned with the body of (1)
  18. 00:51:847 (3,4,5) - - What happened to the distance snap? Hitting a brick wall is no excuse for this young man
  19. 00:55:067 (6,1) - (6) should flow into (1) as described above
  20. 00:55:745 (1,3) - There is just no excuse for this one
  21. 01:01:687 (2,1) - Overlap
  22. 01:16:939 (6,2) - Should/could be on top of eachother, unless you are doing it on purpose
  23. 01:17:618 (1,3) - ^, to an extent
  24. 01:21:681 (1,4) - Hisssssssssss
  25. 01:24:392 (1,2) - Blanket?
  26. 01:28:460 - Make this green inherted point REALLY QUIET so the sound of the spinner ending doesnt wake the cat and distrupt the slow tuneout the song is doing
[Comments]
The difficulty started off nicely, but it went quickly down hill with ill-shapen sliders and piles of overlaps. I didnt mention all of the overlaps / slider flow screwers, so I suggest going through the song yourself and taking my examples to find other places that might not be too clean.

I think one of the issues is the distance snap, and looking through the song again, I am a bit concerned if you even used it at all! (Distance Snap, also known as DS, is the thing that keeps the notes from being the same distance away from eachother). That really should be fixed

Good luck!
Lilyanna
1,918 posts
Joined March 2016
Lilyanna
Hi from modreqs
since im new at modding ill try help with little placing and spacing ^^
Normal
00:02:386 (3,4) - its not blanket correctly fix it like http://puu.sh/pDB0z/ee0f993efd.jpg
00:04:081 (5) - stack with the end of this slider 00:02:386 (3) -
00:07:132 (1) - move this a litte down so its blanket with 00:06:793 (4) - and stack 4 with 00:08:149 (2) - make it like this http://puu.sh/pDBxr/cffa4d30fb.jpg
00:08:488 (3) - move little up blanket with 00:08:149 (2) - and stack these 00:08:149 (2,4,2) -
00:12:556 (1,3) - move 1 up to stack it with 3
00:13:234 (2,4) - stack
00:24:050 (5) - move it a litte down and stack these 00:23:033 (3,6) - same here 00:28:457 (3,5) -
00:33:881 (5,7) - stack
00:35:576 (1,3) - stack
00:43:711 (3,4) - blanket
00:51:169 (2,3) - spacing is wierd
01:08:142 (7,8) - blanket
Hard
00:07:132 (3,4) - its not blanket well
00:08:488 (1,2,1) - spacing is awkward just space the 2 from the sliders
00:10:861 (2,1,2) - try this http://puu.sh/pDCSC/0cc2a0130b.jpg
use ctrl-arrows for better blankets and polishing
00:15:268 (1) - move litte down to blanket with 00:14:929 (4) -
00:14:929 (4,2) - stack
00:20:676 (1) - remove nc
00:22:017 (1,2,1,2) - remove white point no need http://puu.sh/pDDaD/823a60f60e.jpg
00:39:474 (6,1) - its noy blanket correctly
01:08:987 (2,1) - overlap just place 2 little up on the right side
01:22:867 (6) - remove nc
01:23:714 (9) - nc
01:24:392 (1) - remove nc
01:25:409 (1) - remove nc

i hope i helped good luck with ur map :D
Nevo
Global Moderator
1,184 posts
Joined November 2015
Topic Starter
Nevo

Lilyanna wrote:

Hi from modreqs
since im new at modding ill try help with little placing and spacing ^^
Normal
00:02:386 (3,4) - its not blanket correctly fix it like http://puu.sh/pDB0z/ee0f993efd.jpg Yes
00:04:081 (5) - stack with the end of this slider 00:02:386 (3) - Yes
00:07:132 (1) - move this a litte down so its blanket with 00:06:793 (4) - and stack 4 with 00:08:149 (2) - make it like this http://puu.sh/pDBxr/cffa4d30fb.jpg Yes
00:08:488 (3) - move little up blanket with 00:08:149 (2) - and stack these 00:08:149 (2,4,2) - Yes
00:12:556 (1,3) - move 1 up to stack it with 3 Yes
00:13:234 (2,4) - stack Yes
00:24:050 (5) - move it a litte down and stack these 00:23:033 (3,6) - same here 00:28:457 (3,5) - Yes
00:33:881 (5,7) - stack Yes
00:35:576 (1,3) - stack Yes
00:43:711 (3,4) - blanket Yes
00:51:169 (2,3) - spacing is wierd Yes
01:08:142 (7,8) - blanket Yes
Hard
00:07:132 (3,4) - its not blanket well Yes
00:08:488 (1,2,1) - spacing is awkward just space the 2 from the sliders Yes
00:10:861 (2,1,2) - try this http://puu.sh/pDCSC/0cc2a0130b.jpg Yes
use ctrl-arrows for better blankets and polishing Yes
00:15:268 (1) - move litte down to blanket with 00:14:929 (4) - Yes
00:14:929 (4,2) - stack Yes
00:20:676 (1) - remove nc No
00:22:017 (1,2,1,2) - remove white point no need http://puu.sh/pDDaD/823a60f60e.jpg Yes
00:39:474 (6,1) - its noy blanket correctly Yes
01:08:987 (2,1) - overlap just place 2 little up on the right side Yes
01:22:867 (6) - remove nc Yes
01:23:714 (9) - nc Yes
01:24:392 (1) - remove ncNo
01:25:409 (1) - remove nc No
i hope i helped good luck with ur map :D
Good mods thank you 8-)
MikasaSerket
520 posts
Joined December 2014
MikasaSerket
okokokokokok hitsound mod i lied

insane
00:01:369 - 00:13:912 - ok mostly that section, remove all the claps you added to the sliders 00:01:708 - 00:03:064 (3) - 00:10:522 - this is because as far as I am aware, I thought the pattern was supposed to be claps on every reverse slider but you ruined that pattern with 00:08:488 (5) - and 00:10:522 (9) - . to add on, when coverted to taiko, the claps themselves aren't really that at all consistent since it follows no particular pattern so it's pretty random to just add them for the heck of it. and and to double add on, it's a rather soft part of the song so having loud inconsistent claps come out of nowhere ruins it
00:11:369 (2) - lul just a random whistle coming through, yeah it's totally not like it doesn't follow any patterns and shouldn't be there remove it :dd
00:13:912 - 00:19:336 - you got like a nice beat going with the claps and then 00:16:285 (3) - 00:18:658 (1) - ruins the fun :d the pattern of the claps in that area is like, every two white ticks there is a clap on the first one. 00:16:285 (3) - remove the clap from here because you alreayd have 1 on the next slider and 00:18:658 (1) - change the clap from the red tick to the white one k thanks
00:19:336 (1) - when the drummer hits the cymbal you use a clap to represent that instead of a finish which is nice, uhm not really. that's supposed to be a finish not a clap lul i dont see any reason to use a clap xd
00:22:017 - 00:26:593 - why are you using finishes on the entire slider when the music only calls for it being at the beginning/start of the sldier :d xd xxd the finishes from start to end do not match the drummer one bit and looking at the ranked version of this map the mapper of that one only had finishes at the beginning of each slider xddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
00:27:440 - that should be a finish instead of a clap because the drummers cymbal and stuff
00:27:440 - 00:49:135 - ; starting from 00:27:779 - add clap 00:27:949 (2) - remove clap 00:28:796 (1) - remove clap and add finish 00:29:135 (2) - add clap 00:29:474 (3) - remove clap 00:29:813 (5) - add clap 00:30:152 (1) - remove clap then add finish. Now do you get the pattern of the hitsounds? It should remain consistent in that part because it follows mostly the drums. and like, stop using a clap on the drummers cymbals xd
not to say that there isn't problem concerning your blanketing, but since this was a m4m and there wasn't a lot to mod on my map, I only modded what I felt was needed
Apply what I said to other diffs and your good
My Angel Ranko
5 posts
Joined September 2014
My Angel Ranko
Short mod

Yukihira style
00:08:319 (4) - Since this is the slow part i think it would work better without this note
00:49:135 (1) - I feel like the kiai part here isn't mapped as intense as it should be,feel like the part after the kiai is harder/more intense than the kiai itself.
Hard
01:00:491 (2) - The space after this slider feels empty maybe make it a repeat slider

Slider art:
00:22:525 (2) - make this slider like the others (remove the little bump)

00:23:033 (1) - same as above (very tiny bump)

Can't mod normal,good luck with your map!
Lefia
674 posts
Joined August 2014
Lefia
Hi hi NM mod here~

mod
[general]

the timing point is wrong, please change it to
(177 BPM) 00:00:353 with 353 offset
(177 BPM) 00:22:022 with 22022 offset
(177 BPM) 00:49:150 with 49150 offset
(177 BPM) 01:01:364 with 61364 offset
(177 BPM) 01:21:697 with 81697 offset
delete the other timing point

please change the hard diff's BG

I'll mod this after you change the timing point

AND DON'T GIVE ME KUDOSU RIGHT NOW!

don't need this part for kiai mode 00:49:150

[Normal]

recheck blanket
recheck NC

00:02:386 (3) don't need the other point of the slider
00:04:420 (1) move it to x:196 y:184
00:19:675 (6,7,8,1) newbie will coonfused at this part, just make it like this

00:30:157 (6) NC and remove NC at 00:31:513 (1)
00:34:733 (7,1) overlap
00:38:293 (5) NC and remove NC at 00:39:649 (1)
00:41:005 NC and remove NC at 00:42:360
00:42:022 there is a strong beat here, you should do something
00:45:581 (4,5) looks ugly, make the (5) follow the (4) angle

[Yukihira style]

00:19:844 how about like this?

00:34:225 strong beat here, pls do something
00:36:259 (6) remove finish hitsound
00:43:377 remove finish hitsound and add finish hitsound here 00:43:716
00:47:455 strong beat here, please do something
01:19:330 (6,8) overlap

sorry, only mod 2 diff

Good luck~~

GL~
DeletedUser_6181859
DeletedUser_6181859
Heyo from queue again, I'll recheck your map
Previous mod: p/5151148
If you changed little things from this mod - do not give kudosu.
===

Song and beatmaps

  1. Kiai should be start from 01:02:719 , not from 01:03:397

Normal

  1. Fix all mistakes with Distance Spacing: Ctrl+Shift+A -> Check distance snap
  2. 00:04:081 (5,2) - this overlap looks ugly, make stack if possible
  3. 00:08:149 (2,3) - improve blanket
  4. 00:23:547 (5,6) - ...thanks, you kill perfectionist in me.
  5. 00:34:733 (5,6) - strange flow i think...
  6. 00:38:293 (5) - nc
  7. 00:39:649 (8,1) - you have strange pattern here because overlap, can you remap this moment?
  8. 00:46:767 (4,6) - overlap again
  9. 00:49:150 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2) - you have wrong NCs here, try to set right.
  10. 01:04:075 (1,2) - identical
  11. 01:06:448 (4,5) - fix this antiflow
  12. 01:13:567 (1,2,3) - 1 and 3 - identical, also fix blankets
  13. 01:16:957 (6,1,2,3) - so many overlaps
  14. 01:20:008 (4,6) - ^
  15. 01:21:025 (7,1) - where is jump?
  16. 01:21:697 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1) - this jump is so hard for novices, fix it

Hard

  1. omg... why you don't using Distance Snap?
  2. Also using red sliderpoints in 1/2 sliders looks very ugly.
  3. 00:16:285 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - so many 1/2 sliders, it's boring
  4. 00:35:581 (1,3) - make in the same height
  5. 00:45:072 (1,3) - fix overlap
  6. 00:51:861 (1,3) - ^
  7. 00:59:658 (3,2) - ^
  8. 01:00:505 (2,1) - ^
  9. 01:02:041 (3,1) - you can stack here
  10. 01:09:499 (1,3,1) - overlaps...
Okay, If I'll mod this farther I'll will repeat myself. Boring mapset.
Good luck!
{end of mod}
Shyotamaze
917 posts
Joined December 2014
Shyotamaze
Hi, from my modding queue

General
  1. Some tips that helped me a lot when I started mapping if you're interested:

    Kuki wrote:

    also a few general tips for all of you guys cause you're just starting out

    reuse placement! if you've put down a few notes, and want to know where to place the next note, put it where one of those notes were! Check some of my maps or relatively any good quality map to see this (and the reusing notes to create structure) method used almost 100% of the time.

    try to have consistent spacing! the only reason you should change the spacing is for emphasis. if something is quiet and soft, lower the spacing. if something is loud and heavy, make the spacing higher. You should try to find a consistent distance snap to use throughout the whole diff. You don't even need to use distance snap, just use it as a guideline for what to do. check the upper right corner when you have a note selected to see the spacing between the note ahead of it and the note behind it.
Yukihara Style
  1. 00:05:098 (3) - Stack with 00:04:081 (4) - or 00:02:386 (2) - 's head
  2. 00:05:776 (1,2) - Fix blanket
  3. 00:07:810 (3,4,5) - ^
  4. 00:19:844 (2,4,6) - Maybe just stack them, looks a bit weird right now
  5. 00:23:038 (1) - This one doesn't have the same curve as the other sliders of that part, try to make them consistent
  6. 00:26:259 (2,2) - Fix stack
  7. 00:27:445 (1,3,4) - The overlaps make it a bit confusing to read
  8. 00:28:462 (4,3) - Stack?
  9. 00:30:666 (2,3) - Collides
  10. 00:31:005 (3,1) - ^ and fix blanket with 00:31:344 (4) -
  11. 00:42:869 (2,4) - Stack?
  12. 00:44:394 (3,5) - Collides
  13. 00:54:573 (1,2) - Weird flow, try to rotate 2 a bit
  14. 01:10:347 (3,5) - Stack?
Nice map, recheck your NCs they are a bit inconsistent
Good luck! ;)
Nevo
Global Moderator
1,184 posts
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Topic Starter
Nevo

100bit wrote:

Heyo from queue again, I'll recheck your map
Previous mod: p/5151148
If you changed little things from this mod - do not give kudosu.
===

Song and beatmaps

  1. Kiai should be start from 01:02:719 , not from 01:03:397

Normal

  1. Fix all mistakes with Distance Spacing: Ctrl+Shift+A -> Check distance snap
  2. 00:04:081 (5,2) - this overlap looks ugly, make stack if possible
  3. 00:08:149 (2,3) - improve blanket
  4. 00:23:547 (5,6) - ...thanks, you kill perfectionist in me.
  5. 00:34:733 (5,6) - strange flow i think...
  6. 00:38:293 (5) - nc
  7. 00:39:649 (8,1) - you have strange pattern here because overlap, can you remap this moment?
  8. 00:46:767 (4,6) - overlap again
  9. 00:49:150 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2) - you have wrong NCs here, try to set right.
  10. 01:04:075 (1,2) - identical
  11. 01:06:448 (4,5) - fix this antiflow
  12. 01:13:567 (1,2,3) - 1 and 3 - identical, also fix blankets
  13. 01:16:957 (6,1,2,3) - so many overlaps
  14. 01:20:008 (4,6) - ^
  15. 01:21:025 (7,1) - where is jump?
  16. 01:21:697 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1) - this jump is so hard for novices, fix it

Hard

  1. omg... why you don't using Distance Snap?
  2. Also using red sliderpoints in 1/2 sliders looks very ugly.
  3. 00:16:285 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - so many 1/2 sliders, it's boring
  4. 00:35:581 (1,3) - make in the same height
  5. 00:45:072 (1,3) - fix overlap
  6. 00:51:861 (1,3) - ^
  7. 00:59:658 (3,2) - ^
  8. 01:00:505 (2,1) - ^
  9. 01:02:041 (3,1) - you can stack here
  10. 01:09:499 (1,3,1) - overlaps...
Okay, If I'll mod this farther I'll will repeat myself. Boring mapset.
Good luck!
{end of mod}
Good mod but you need to give me some slack it's my first map.
As for the DS yes i use it the whole time after 20+ mods some notes become unsnapped.
As for it being a boring mapset..... It's a slow song what do you expect? A 6 Star Dubstep map.
If you didn't mean to be rude I understand it just kinda offends me when you say boring mapset....
paydayzcool
390 posts
Joined October 2014
paydayzcool
Hi there Nevo,

This is a modding post from my queue.

[Normal]
00:02:386 (3,4) - If you look closely enough, there's a blanket error with these two notes.
00:03:064 (4,5) - ^
00:07:132 (1,2) - Slight but noticeable blanket error
00:08:149 (2,3) - ^
00:55:082 (5,1,2,3,4) - imo, this looks better: https://puu.sh/qbeG4/6e7e31438f.png followed by: https://puu.sh/qbeHf/82102e433f.png and: https://puu.sh/qbeLC/c1338c7ff0.png
01:02:719 (1,2) - Blanket error with these notes
01:04:075 (1,2) - Make these sliders parallel.
01:14:584 (2,3) - Blanket error again
01:24:408 (1) - Move this note further away from 01:23:730 (5). Use DS
[]

[Hard]
00:07:132 (3) - Use DS. It looks weird without it.
00:35:581 (1,2,3) - ^
00:42:191 (4,1) - slight blanket error
00:53:217 (1,2) - Blanket error
00:55:760 - Add a note here.
00:55:929 (1,2) - Blanket error
01:14:923 (1,2) - ^
[]

[Yukihara style]
00:08:488 (5) - If you are going to use bezier sliders, ensure that they are even. Like this: https://puu.sh/qbfqK/8ec589a819.png
00:10:861 (1,2,3) - Blanket errors
00:13:912 (1,2) - ^
00:17:302 (3,4) - ^
00:32:530 (5,1) - ^ (look at the follow circle)
00:32:869 (1,2) - ^
00:43:716 (1,2) - Curve the slider a bit more inward to fix the blanket error:
01:10:347 (3,4) - Blanket error
01:15:770 (2,3) - ^
[]

Nice map, but try to focus on blanketing more.

Also, if I sound too strict, you can choose not to give me any kudosu. XDDDDDD
I Must Decrease
913 posts
Joined June 2013
I Must Decrease
wow!
17:55 Nevo: im rdy
17:55 Xexxar: hello
17:55 *Xexxar is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/968525 ULTRA TOWER - Kibou no Uta (TV Size) [Yukihara Style]]
17:55 Xexxar: this your diff?
17:55 Nevo: yes
17:55 Xexxar: 00:01:369 (1,2) -
17:55 Xexxar: clean blanket
17:55 Xexxar: http://puu.sh/qenyR/1f9a6f7659.jpg
17:56 Xexxar: 00:04:081 (4,3) -
17:56 Xexxar: why is this not stacked
17:57 Xexxar: also how come hte triangle isnt properly evenly spaced
17:57 Xexxar: is there a reason/
17:57 Nevo: good questions
17:58 Xexxar: 00:05:098 (3) -
17:58 Xexxar: also while im at it
17:58 Xexxar: why these shapes of sliders
17:58 Xexxar: its not really a problem
17:58 Xexxar: i just dont like how they look personally
17:58 Xexxar: a curve would be a bit more intuitive
17:58 Xexxar: its also things like
17:58 Nevo: okey
17:58 Xexxar: how 2's angle plays no bearing into the direction of the slider
17:59 Xexxar: generally i like the angles of previous notes to impact the design and angleing of a slider
17:59 Xexxar: but idk maybe thats me
17:59 Nevo: i curved it
18:00 Xexxar: 00:05:776 (1) - same blanket possibility, not required, but a good way to justify the location of the note
18:00 Xexxar: also sorry im going slow
18:00 Xexxar: having a talk with another person atm
18:00 Xexxar: 00:08:319 (4,5) -
18:00 Xexxar: blanket
18:00 Xexxar: 00:08:488 (5,7) - awkwardly overlapping slider body and note
18:00 Xexxar: consider adjusting to avoid this
18:01 Xexxar: 00:10:861 (1,3) -
18:01 Xexxar: lol
18:01 Xexxar: you really should work on the polishing of your blankets
18:01 Xexxar: do you know how to check blankets?
18:01 Xexxar: 00:12:386 -
18:02 Xexxar: i dont understandf why there is a sudden change in SV here
18:02 Nevo: somwhat
18:02 Xexxar: guitar?
18:02 Xexxar: that seems really unintuitive
18:02 Xexxar: would just recommend not doing that since it seems unnatural
18:02 Xexxar: the guitar's pitch isnt what you're focusing
18:02 Xexxar: if you were more actively following hte guitar instead of vocals
18:02 Xexxar: it would make more sense
18:02 Xexxar: but it seems like the SV is implying that vocals are more intense
18:02 Xexxar: not the guitar
18:03 Nevo: removed
18:03 Xexxar: 00:13:234 (3) -
18:03 Xexxar: instead of doing a 1/1 slider
18:03 Xexxar: why not like, a 1/2 into a 3/4 toi make the downbeat onto 00:13:912 (1) - more intnese
18:03 Xexxar: 00:14:251 (2,3,4) -
18:04 Xexxar: this all looks really haphazard
18:04 Xexxar: and sloppy
18:04 Xexxar: arbitrary locations etc
18:04 Xexxar: ill stop commenting on thjem
18:04 Xexxar: but it really lacks rhyme / reason in my opinion
18:04 Nevo: okey
18:04 Xexxar: 00:19:844 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - this pattern is fine
18:05 Xexxar: but i feel you could definitely reflect the raise in intensity a bit better
18:05 Xexxar: with some more dynamic spacing
18:05 Xexxar: rahter then the same DS for all notes
18:05 Xexxar: 00:17:302 (3,4) -
18:05 Xexxar: obviously more blanket stuff
18:05 Xexxar: im just gonna say check all blankets
18:05 Xexxar: rather than waste time pointing them all out
18:06 Xexxar: 00:22:022 (1,2,1,2) -
18:06 Nevo: kk
18:06 Xexxar: make these the same spacing from eachother
18:06 Xexxar: in terms of visuals
18:06 Xexxar: also holy
18:06 Xexxar: pls copy paste them
18:06 Xexxar: rather than make them different everytime
18:06 Xexxar: it loosk terribnle
18:06 Xexxar: 00:24:055 (1,1) -
18:06 Xexxar: overlapping can be avoided, or atleast make more purposeful with spacing thats not randomyl in the cdenter of the note
18:06 Xexxar: ie Directly over the end / start
18:06 Xexxar: or something
18:06 Nevo: moved it
18:06 Xexxar: avoid having slider bodies overlap
18:07 Xexxar: im gonna ignore aesthetic stuff
18:07 Xexxar: and look at the gameplay at this point
18:07 Xexxar: everything i've said can be applied throughout
18:07 Nevo: ok
18:08 Xexxar: also you're timing swrong
18:08 Nevo: god dammit
18:08 Xexxar: 00:49:150 (1) -
18:08 Xexxar: the SV is a bit high here
18:08 Xexxar: but i havent seen chorus
18:08 Xexxar: to compare
18:09 Xexxar: 00:59:658 (3) -
18:09 Xexxar: missed clap
18:09 Xexxar: yeah
18:09 Xexxar: it seems weird
18:09 Xexxar: 00:49:150 -
18:09 Xexxar: to increase SV here
18:09 Xexxar: to the kiai's DS
18:09 Xexxar: i can see increasing it abit
18:09 Xexxar: but now it seems like this area
18:10 Xexxar: is the same intensity at the chorus
18:10 Xexxar: which doesnt rly make sense :P
18:10 Xexxar: 01:05:431 (1,2) -
18:10 Xexxar: stuff like this in a kiai is really awkward
18:10 Xexxar: this is the most intense part of hte song
18:10 Xexxar: yet you've lost notes
18:10 Xexxar: cause of the weird gaps in rhythm
18:10 Xexxar: i recommend finding ways to bridge these gaps with slider ends
18:10 Xexxar: etc
18:10 Xexxar: to make it more full
18:10 Xexxar: 01:06:279 -
18:10 Xexxar: for ex
18:10 Xexxar: theres a note right there
18:10 Nevo: yes]
18:10 Xexxar: you're skipping
18:11 Xexxar: alright
18:11 Xexxar: Now i'm gonna give you the correct timing
18:11 Nevo: i used the same timing as the ranked verison
18:11 Nevo: i thiink
18:11 Nevo: im retarded abd prob changed it
18:14 Xexxar: uh
18:14 Xexxar: is there a ranked version
18:14 Xexxar: if so
18:14 Xexxar: just use that
18:14 Nevo: ok
18:14 Xexxar: saves me the trouble of figuring out
18:14 Xexxar: whats happening
18:14 Nevo: i did though
18:14 Xexxar: also
18:14 Xexxar: Yukihira is apparently the correct name of the character for which this diff refers to
18:14 Xexxar: idk if thats correct
18:14 Xexxar: but someone messaged me saying that
18:15 Nevo: um
18:15 Xexxar: alright wellllll anyway
18:15 Xexxar: Anything else i can help you with
18:15 Xexxar: Questions
18:15 Xexxar: comments
18:15 Xexxar: concerns
18:15 Xexxar: regards
18:15 Xexxar: etc
18:15 Nevo: all i can say is
18:15 Xexxar: Otherwise I'm gonna post htis log.
18:15 Nevo: i love you
18:15 Xexxar: wow!
18:15 Xexxar: xd
18:15 Nevo: and gl
Jayne
14 posts
Joined January 2016
Jayne
Hi! I'm from #modreq. New to modding, but hope I can provide some help!

Normal
General: Good map, with decent blanketing of sliders throughout. Beatmapping matches the song well.
Timing: Fine
Audio: Fine

Score: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5701490

Notes:
00:53:895 (2,3) - To help with flow, move the 3 note closer to the start of the four, and the 2 slider a bit farther to the left.
01:18:991 (3,4) - The 3 slider does a poor job of blanketing the 4 note compared to the rest of the song.
00:10:861 (2,3) - The 3 note might work better if it's in line with the 2 sliders flow, or even symetrical w/ the 4 slider.

Hard
General: Fun map, good use of double. Challenging for its SR, but in a good way.
Timing: Fine
Audio: Fine

Score: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5701557

Notes:
00:27:106 (4,5,1) - Make the 4 note and 5 note in line with the start of the 1 slider, and THEN blanket the 5 note with the 1 slider.
01:08:143 (1,2,3) - Make the 2 note equally separated between the end of the 1 slider and the start of the 3 slider.

Yukihira Style
General: Really, really, easy for its SR. Consider increasing the AR or the OD.
Timing: Fine
Audio: Fine

Score: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5701564

Notes:
I struggled to find anything to correct, so.... good job!
Nevo
Global Moderator
1,184 posts
Joined November 2015
Topic Starter
Nevo

SF_Jayne wrote:

Hi! I'm from #modreq. New to modding, but hope I can provide some help!

Normal
General: Good map, with decent blanketing of sliders throughout. Beatmapping matches the song well.
Timing: Fine
Audio: Fine

Score: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5701490

Notes:
00:53:895 (2,3) - To help with flow, move the 3 note closer to the start of the four, and the 2 slider a bit farther to the left. Done
01:18:991 (3,4) - The 3 slider does a poor job of blanketing the 4 note compared to the rest of the song.Done
00:10:861 (2,3) - The 3 note might work better if it's in line with the 2 sliders flow, or even symetrical w/ the 4 slider.
Done

Hard
General: Fun map, good use of double. Challenging for its SR, but in a good way.
Timing: Fine
Audio: Fine

Score: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5701557

Notes:
00:27:106 (4,5,1) - Make the 4 note and 5 note in line with the start of the 1 slider, and THEN blanket the 5 note with the 1 slider.Done
01:08:143 (1,2,3) - Make the 2 note equally separated between the end of the 1 slider and the start of the 3 slider.Done

Yukihira Style
General: Really, really, easy for its SR. Consider increasing the AR or the OD. 10 remaps to this diff it was 4.7 stars at one point lol
Timing: Fine
Audio: Fine

Score: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5701564

Notes:
I struggled to find anything to correct, so.... good job!
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Planecakes
275 posts
Joined August 2015
Planecakes
yooo! I'm from #modreq. This will be a small mod because i'm new to modding...

You should set preveiw point to your map, if you don't know how to do that please ask #modhelp.
Yukihira Style
00:19:336 (1) - Ugly slider, it's important to have a nice and clean map.
00:24:733 (1,2,1,2) - Change to something simple and don't repeat from 00:24:733 (1,2,1,2) - I would redo this part if i was you.
00:27:276 (3) - NC
00:27:445 (1) - Remove NC
00:30:666 (2,3) - Too close
01:22:713 (5) - Remove NC
01:22:883 (1) - NC

Good luck with ranking
Saruh
7 posts
Joined December 2014
Saruh
From #modreq :)
I love this song and anime! I'm new to modding, but I'll see what I can do.

Normal
This is a very difficult normal map! I'm positive I wouldn't pass it when I was at that skill level. I'm not sure how to mod this! :(

00:08:488 (3) - This should end on the white tick
00:41:005 (1,2,3,1) - Too many overlaps for a noob to read
00:59:658 (1) - It's a really fast spinner! But I'm also just slow...

Hard
00:04:081 (2,1) - This part might be better with just 1 slider, like this: https://puu.sh/qhIYl/e5f62c32c9.png
00:41:852 (3,4,1) - This part would look better blanketed: http://puu.sh/qhGyl/fd5082e326.png
00:42:869 (2) - Distance snap this circle between the sliders (or just put it spaced evenly between the sliders)
01:01:364 (1,2,3,4,1) - My favorite part :D

I like this map! ~ :D

Yukihira Style
00:08:319 (4) - I guess this part just feels weird since it's mapped on the non-upbeat intro
00:13:234 (3,4,5) - Same with this, because it's still in the non-upbeat intro
01:24:578 (2,3,4) - This would look better blanketed (but I guess it matches the previous note? Sorry I'm bad at this :cry: )

Decent map :) It's very newly-insane-map-player friendly. I think the AR is perfect. (Anywhere from 8.4-8.8 would do for this map to me)

I know I wasn't much help :(, but I look forward to this map getting ranked :D Good luck
Nevo
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1,184 posts
Joined November 2015
Topic Starter
Nevo

Saruh wrote:

From #modreq :)
I love this song and anime! I'm new to modding, but I'll see what I can do.

Normal
This is a very difficult normal map! I'm positive I wouldn't pass it when I was at that skill level. I'm not sure how to mod this! :(

00:08:488 (3) - This should end on the white tick
00:41:005 (1,2,3,1) - Too many overlaps for a noob to read
00:59:658 (1) - It's a really fast spinner! But I'm also just slow...

Hard
00:04:081 (2,1) - This part might be better with just 1 slider, like this: https://puu.sh/qhIYl/e5f62c32c9.png
00:41:852 (3,4,1) - This part would look better blanketed: http://puu.sh/qhGyl/fd5082e326.png
00:42:869 (2) - Distance snap this circle between the sliders (or just put it spaced evenly between the sliders)
01:01:364 (1,2,3,4,1) - My favorite part :D

I like this map! ~ :D

Yukihira Style
00:08:319 (4) - I guess this part just feels weird since it's mapped on the non-upbeat intro
00:13:234 (3,4,5) - Same with this, because it's still in the non-upbeat intro
01:24:578 (2,3,4) - This would look better blanketed (but I guess it matches the previous note? Sorry I'm bad at this :cry: )

Decent map :) It's very newly-insane-map-player friendly. I think the AR is perfect. (Anywhere from 8.4-8.8 would do for this map to me)

I know I wasn't much help :(, but I look forward to this map getting ranked :D Good luck
All mods applied :D
Fanteer
483 posts
Joined February 2016
Fanteer
Hi
M4M

Normal

00:28:801 (4) - bad slider
00:49:827 (2) - ^
00:33:547 (2,4) - overlap
00:39:649 (1,1) - ^
00:34:225 (3,1) - bad flow
00:38:293 (7) - NC
00:39:649 (1) - remove NC
00:42:360 (1) - ^
00:43:038 (2) - NC
I do not understand system NC
00:44:733 (6,1) - fix overlap
00:44:733 (6,3) - it's ugly
01:01:702 (2,2) - ugly overlap
01:05:770 (3,5) - ^
01:07:465 (6,7) - fix blanket
01:13:567 (1,2) - ^
01:16:618 (5,1) - overlap
00:55:928 (1) - FIX ( ctrl+shift+A )
You are using often overlap, for beginners, it will be difficult to play.
Make fewer overlaps.

Good Luck :)
Melter
534 posts
Joined October 2014
Melter
Yukihira Style

stop using ds

Most of the emphasis you can't fix now because you already used distance spacing, but just for a next timer

00:03:064 (3) - nc, you may also want to space this out more because it is a stronger beat
00:06:793 (2,1) - this should have more spacing between eachother because the beat is stronger on 1 than 2
00:06:793 (2,3) - stack this onto the slider end of 00:05:098 (3) -
00:06:793 (2,3) - not stacked well
00:08:488 (5) - nc
00:09:844 (7) - nc
00:11:539 (3) - wanna blanket this approach circle 00:10:861 (1) -
00:12:895 (2,3) - more spacing between because new lyric
00:13:573 (5) - this would fit better as a slider because the bass is carried on until 00:13:573 (5) -
00:14:590 (1) - un-nc
00:17:641 (4,1) - more spacing from eachother because new lyric
00:24:055 (1) - un-nc
00:26:767 (1) - un-nc
00:27:954 (2,2) - this overlap makes me kinda sad...
00:28:632 (5,1) - should be more spaced for more emphasis
00:29:818 (5,1) - should be more spaced for more emphasis
00:31:344 (4,1) - this definitely needs more spacing for more emphasis
00:32:530 (5,1) - same thing
00:34:055 (5,6) - more emphasis
00:34:225 (6) - nc
00:35:411 (9,1) - Now this is fine. Do you want to know why? Because reversing the flow can also signify emphasis. Good job ;^)
00:36:767 (4,1) - i dont see the need for stacking these
00:38:123 (6,1) - more emphasis blah blah blah
00:39:140 (1) - un-nc
00:39:479 (2,1) - more emphasis
00:40:666 (5,1) - idk
00:42:191 (4,1) - same thing
00:43:547 (4,1) - eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek
00:44:903 (5,1) - same thing as all the others above
00:46:259 (6,1) - same thing
00:48:293 (4,5) - these sliders are mapped to the wrong thing, it should be on the next white tick
00:48:971 (6) - remove object
00:49:488 (2) - i dont see the need for a repeat because the lyric only goes for 1/2
00:49:488 (2,3) - blanket
00:51:014 (4,5) - these sliders fit better 00:51:014 (4,5) -
00:54:573 (5) - nc
00:55:082 (6,8) - this overlap is hard to read for newer players
00:55:760 (8,1) - more emphasis
00:56:946 (2,1) - this definitely needs more emphasis
01:04:075 (1) - put this sliderend on 01:03:228 (2) -
01:05:092 (4,1) - emphasis
01:05:940 (2,3) - this object messes up the flow and it doesnt really make sense for this part of the song.
01:06:448 (4,1) - v
01:07:974 (5,1) - emphasis blah blah blah
01:09:499 (6) - nc 01:09:160 (5,6) - emphasis also
01:10:347 (8) - put this on 01:09:499 (6) - sliderend
01:11:533 (1) - de-nc, remove finish
01:12:041 (4,1) - emphasis
01:13:397 (5,1) - ^
im tired of emphasis mod, im just gonna do the rest
01:21:702 - woah? this sv is overkill for a diff like this
01:22:205 (3,4) - stack on 01:21:533 (5) -
01:22:713 (1) - un-nc
01:22:374 (4,1) - fix overlap please
01:22:883 (2) - nc
01:24:069 (4) - stack sliderstart on 01:23:391 (2) - sliderstart
01:25:595 (1) - would be better if started on 01:25:595 (1) - and ended 01:25:595 (1) -
Nevo
Global Moderator
1,184 posts
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Topic Starter
Nevo
after 331 days its ungraved!
Renumi
907 posts
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Renumi
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Nevo
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Nevo
here it is
00:05 Nevo: now
00:05 Nevo: where tf do i put it
00:05 Nevo: XD
00:06 Nevo: nvm
00:06 Nevo: i got THIS
00:07 Renumi: you got THIS
00:08 Renumi: btw your emphasis is super fuckd
00:08 Renumi: 00:28:801 (1) - 00:30:157 (1) -
00:09 Renumi: space the first one out more ;v
00:09 Nevo: ok
00:09 Renumi: 00:34:225 (2) - here too
00:09 Nevo: 00:32:869 (1) - here too
00:09 Renumi: 00:39:649 (6) - maybe here as well
00:09 Renumi: ah yeah
00:09 Renumi: you get the point xd
00:09 Nevo: keep
00:09 Nevo: mnarking them out
00:09 Renumi: everything falling on a string if you wanted to be more consistent
00:10 Renumi: o ok,
00:10 Renumi: 00:36:598 (5,1) - emphasis like this is good imo
00:10 Renumi: like you can clearly tell 1 has more space
00:10 Renumi: cause string :u
00:10 Renumi: 00:41:005 (1) - here space
00:11 Renumi: 00:46:428 (1) -
00:11 Renumi: 00:49:150 (1) - this lands on a cymbal finish fadsgasghsdgfasdf spac3e it
00:11 Nevo: uh
00:11 Nevo: thats clsoe since its small gap thing
00:11 Nevo: fromthe last object
00:12 Renumi: o i get you
00:12 Nevo: like its actually normal space but since the last slider exted
00:12 Nevo: penis
00:12 Nevo: !
00:13 Nevo: ok
00:13 Nevo: im caught up now
00:13 Nevo: !
00:13 Renumi: ok so now i can say that 01:01:014 (3,4) - im kinda against using two circles here :v
00:13 Nevo: wanna here funny meme
00:13 Renumi: but you can keep them if you want
00:14 Renumi: sure
00:14 Renumi: xd
00:14 Nevo: 01:00:505 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - these dont even exist in ranked verison
00:14 Nevo: its legit me staright pp mapping
00:14 Renumi: smh
00:15 Nevo: 01:01:014 (3,4) - i would say these make sense
00:15 Nevo: 01:00:166 (2,3,4) - but
00:15 Nevo: theres like nothing on thsoe
00:15 Nevo: XD
00:15 Renumi: maybe they'renot in the ranked version cause they don't fit,,? //RUNS
00:15 Renumi: ya xD
00:15 Nevo: THEY DONT
00:15 Nevo: IK
00:15 Nevo: BUT PP
00:15 Nevo: jk
00:15 Nevo: imma just remove it
00:15 Nevo: wait
00:15 Nevo: i could leave it in
00:15 Nevo: and get pp1
00:15 Nevo: jk
00:16 Renumi: you could keep it if you think you could defend it hard enough
00:16 Renumi: but the thing is
00:16 Renumi: you can't
00:16 Renumi: so
00:16 Renumi: xD
00:16 Nevo: i mean
00:16 Nevo: i could say some stupid shit like
00:16 Renumi: "the circles represent all the struggles in his life you just don't get it"
00:16 Nevo: im trying to build the player up for the kiai section
00:16 Nevo: which tends to use this pattern alot
00:17 Renumi: ew bad reasoning xd
00:17 Nevo: this song is also about tragic love
00:17 Nevo: im to lazy right now
00:17 Renumi: if you wanna go that way that's fine by me :^)
00:17 Nevo: :v
00:17 Nevo: im not
00:17 Nevo: just
00:17 Nevo: goota
00:17 Nevo: figure dis out tho
00:17 Nevo: fuck it if that erased review map can spam jumps
00:17 Nevo: SO CAN I
00:17 Nevo: thats not a reason
00:18 Renumi: "if someone else did it i can too smh"
00:18 Renumi: bad reason
00:18 Renumi: bad
00:18 Nevo: 00:59:997 (1,2,3,4) - this should be two sliders
00:18 Nevo: ik
00:18 Nevo: its not a reason
00:18 Nevo: it was joke qq
00:18 Nevo: urgh
00:18 Renumi: yee you get it ;w;
00:18 Nevo: :V
00:18 Nevo: i dont want like 8 sliders in a row
00:19 Nevo: ok
00:19 Nevo: fixed
00:19 Renumi: you could just convert it to two sliders and keep 01:00:675 (1,2,3,4) -
00:19 Nevo: :)
00:19 Nevo: i did
00:19 Nevo: :V
00:19 Renumi: yay :u
00:19 Nevo: if this was an extra
00:19 Renumi: 01:02:719 (1) - your pattern would be rip but this is so strong
00:19 Nevo: :V
00:20 Renumi: cmon man :v
00:20 Nevo: hold my beer
00:20 Nevo: imma buff whole map to 10 stars
00:20 Nevo: IM JOKING
00:20 Nevo: DW
00:20 Renumi: CONCERN
00:20 Nevo: uh
00:20 Nevo: bullshit reason
00:20 Nevo: i think
00:20 Nevo: but 01:02:719 (1) - is spaced big
00:20 Renumi: smh,
00:20 Nevo: just the extend slider fuk
00:21 Nevo: yeah it should be bigger
00:21 Renumi: not that hard to hit it tho
00:21 Nevo: but
00:21 Nevo: :C
00:21 Renumi: you either do ti for player experience or aesthetics
00:21 Renumi: :u
00:21 Nevo: 01:02:719 (1) - ok
00:21 Nevo: ok
00:21 Nevo: what if i blanket this
00:22 Nevo: to 01:02:211 (2) - 
00:22 Nevo: :V
00:22 Nevo: https://puu.sh/wPaHu/3501f79803.jpg
00:22 Nevo: wait
00:22 Nevo: FUCK THE SLIDER IS FAR
00:22 Nevo: AS NFJKLNGIJK'
00:22 Renumi: YEAH
00:22 Renumi: LOL
00:22 Nevo: :c
00:22 Nevo: fuck the player
00:22 Renumi: i had the same idea but then i realized "o fuk nevo's not gonna like that LOL"
00:22 Renumi: :c
00:22 Nevo: i'll do it
00:22 Nevo: if oyu think its fine lol
00:23 Renumi: you'd need to rearrange things so it doesn't come off as a tiny diffspike tho
00:23 Renumi: but i'm sure you know that already
00:23 Nevo: :thinkgin:
00:25 Renumi: what'll you do :thignkn:
00:27 Nevo: hmmm
00:28 Nevo: idk what to do
00:28 Renumi: well tbh you could keep it,, but be prepared for experienced modders to call you out on it :u
00:28 Nevo: ik
00:28 Nevo: just
00:28 Nevo: :V
00:28 Nevo: 01:02:719 (1) - blankets around
00:28 Nevo: that circel
00:30 Renumi: yea noticed :d
00:30 Nevo: but
00:30 Nevo: past that
00:30 Nevo: :thignknin:
00:30 Renumi: 01:01:364 (1,2,1,1) - this is good aesthetically but not playing wise :c
00:32 Renumi: lemme know when you're caught up and stuff :u
00:32 Nevo: ok
00:32 Nevo: now
00:32 Nevo: ?
00:33 Renumi: lit
00:33 Nevo: i kinda
00:33 Nevo: remapped like 5 seconds
00:33 Nevo: XD
00:34 Renumi: ayy xD
00:34 Nevo: :DDDDDDD
00:35 Renumi: 01:06:109 (4,5) - this is pretty far compared to 01:04:753 (3,4) - which are like the same sounds :v
00:35 Nevo: FUCK
00:35 Nevo: I KNEW YOU WOULD SAY IT
00:35 Renumi: i know you're probably trying to give emphasis so the 6 but
00:35 Renumi: you know
00:35 Renumi: LOL
00:35 Nevo: i was looking at it like
00:35 Nevo: ...
00:35 Nevo: i should change this
00:35 Nevo: BUT
00:35 Nevo: hewres what i did
00:36 Renumi: oh boy here we go
00:36 Nevo: wait
00:36 Nevo: fuck i broke my logic one sec
00:36 Nevo: 01:04:753 (3) - imma try to emphasis these notes a little more
00:36 Renumi: LOL
00:38 Renumi: yea?
00:38 Nevo: i fucked
00:38 Nevo: up
00:38 Nevo: hold my beer
00:39 Renumi: lmfao ok
00:39 Nevo: OK
00:39 Nevo: I GOT IT
00:39 Nevo: !
00:40 Nevo: my big issue is like
00:40 Renumi: LET'S HEAR IT
00:40 Nevo: i move one thing
00:40 Nevo: and i destroy everything else
00:40 Nevo: xd
00:40 Renumi: breaks pattern xd
00:41 Nevo: eh
00:41 Renumi: the struggle of mappers having an aesthetic based style is that
00:41 Renumi: patterns man :c
00:41 Nevo: at this point its better to just send
00:41 Renumi: patterns man :c
00:41 Nevo: https://puu.sh/wPbdT/0c211dee72.osz
00:41 Nevo: SEE LIKE
00:41 Nevo: I USED TO JUST BE ABLE TO THROW SHIT ANYWHERE
00:41 Nevo: but since EVERYTHING FUCKING STACKS
00:41 Nevo: its hard
00:41 Nevo: :c
00:42 Renumi: oh man
00:42 Renumi: dang rip :c
00:42 Nevo: even tho
00:42 Renumi: (it looks better now tho :eyes:)
00:42 Nevo: i kinda said fuck it
00:42 Nevo: i hope it doesn
00:42 Nevo: does
00:43 Nevo: im sure my ncs still trigger you
00:43 Nevo: XD
00:43 Renumi: it's better if i don't mention em :^)
00:43 Nevo: you can
00:43 Nevo: like
00:43 Renumi: i learned that nc's are never perfect and that some people have different logics behind them
00:43 Nevo: im shit
00:43 Nevo: oh
00:43 Nevo: ok
00:43 Renumi: so i'd rather not
00:43 Nevo: my logc is
00:43 Renumi: ye a
00:43 Nevo: :V
00:43 Nevo: basically
00:44 Renumi: if i had to assume your logic it's so that your placements look neat and don't cause followpoints or something xd
00:44 Nevo: wow
00:44 Nevo: you think im smart or something?
00:44 Nevo: i just do it cuz i hear guys voice or pitch change
00:44 Nevo: :VV
00:44 Renumi: LOL
00:45 Nevo: my 1 2's are so my shit is easy to read tho
00:45 Nevo: like
00:45 Nevo: inyubi
00:45 Nevo: :V
00:45 Renumi: i noticed that :u
00:46 Nevo: i glad you think i have that much knowledge tho
00:46 Nevo: Xxd
00:47 Renumi: hehe xd
00:47 Nevo: :^)
00:47 Nevo:  (´・◡・｀)
00:47 Nevo: (´・◡・｀)
00:47 Renumi: 01:07:804 (6,1) - and 01:09:160 (6,1) -
00:47 Renumi: spacing consistency = where
00:47 Renumi: :c
00:48 Nevo: wait
00:48 Nevo: what
00:48 Renumi: i think they should both be the same distance like
00:48 Nevo: ok
00:48 Nevo: fiuxed
00:48 Nevo: :)
00:48 Renumi: 01:09:160 (6,1) - has a bigger blanket
00:48 Renumi: o yay
00:48 Nevo: FUIXE
00:48 Renumi: :o
00:48 Nevo: D
00:49 Nevo: oh god my most hated part
00:49 Nevo: is coming up
00:49 Nevo: :thithintkgnigntg:
00:49 Renumi: 01:14:923 (1) - this is the only tim you use a repeated slider wth why
00:50 Nevo: ding ding ding
00:50 Renumi: talk about flow break
00:50 Nevo: you win the prize of finding my most hated part
00:50 Nevo: :D
00:50 Nevo: i fucking hate how i mapped it
00:50 Nevo: xD
00:50 Renumi: i knew it :^)
00:50 Renumi: fix it then xD
00:50 Renumi: easier said than done :v)
00:51 Renumi: 01:13:567 (1) - this too wth
00:51 Renumi: 01:18:991 (1) -
00:52 Nevo: huh
00:52 Renumi: why'd you decide to use 1/1 sliders all of a sudden on a kiai full of 1/2's and stuff
00:52 Nevo: well
00:52 Nevo: i always get the complaint of
00:52 Nevo: "you only use 1/2 sliders"
00:52 Nevo: which
00:52 Nevo: i do
00:52 Nevo: wont even lie
00:52 Nevo: :V
00:52 Renumi: true :u
00:52 Nevo: and i was like
00:53 Renumi: but i mean, you could always keep them; i just don't like how they're inconsistent with the rest of the kiai xD
00:53 Nevo: :V
00:53 Renumi: granted it's the second half of the kiai so you have little battle ground
00:53 Nevo: meow
00:53 Nevo: i dont want anything thats "oh it may be fine"
00:53 Nevo: i want it will be fine
00:53 Nevo: depsite the fact whatever i do
00:54 Nevo: is not fine
00:54 Nevo: :V
00:54 Renumi: well what i'd do is make every slider that falls on a while tick a 1/1 slider :v
00:54 Renumi: then you wouldn't get complaints and it would be fine
00:54 Nevo: everysingle
00:54 Nevo: :(
00:54 Renumi: stuff like 01:02:719 (1) - and 01:04:075 (1) -
00:54 Nevo: fuck that
00:54 Renumi: yea :c
00:54 Nevo: mor pp
00:55 Renumi: LO
00:56 Renumi: 01:21:697 (1,1) - wtf is that overlap
00:56 Nevo: oh
00:56 Nevo: uh
00:56 Nevo: i cant map 1/1 sldiers
00:56 Nevo: at all
00:57 Nevo: like
00:57 Nevo: im really bad at it
00:57 Nevo: XD
00:57 Nevo: i need ideas :c
00:59 Renumi: once again
00:59 Renumi: what will nevo do
00:59 Nevo: meow meow
01:01 Renumi: :(
01:02 Renumi: 01:24:917 (1) - suggestion but make this blanket with 01:24:408 (1) -
01:02 Renumi: easy fix and makes the ending a bit more rounded out
01:03 Nevo: banan
01:03 Renumi: a
01:07 Nevo: ok
01:07 Nevo: redy
01:07 Nevo: :D
01:07 Nevo: :c
01:08 Renumi: yay then that's all
01:08 Nevo: (´・◡・｀)
01:08 Nevo: https://puu.sh/wPbWU/7c3d926277.osz
01:08 Renumi: wait no
01:08 Renumi: 00:42:022 (6) -
01:08 Renumi: what's tHIS
01:08 Nevo: oh fuck
01:08 Nevo: UNPLAYABLE
01:08 Renumi: it's so passive
01:08 Renumi: UNPLAYABLE
01:08 Nevo: WAIT
01:08 Nevo: THE SLDIER SHOULD BE THERE
01:08 Nevo: shoundt?
01:08 Nevo: or the blanket
01:09 Nevo: cuz that blanket is
01:09 Nevo: CANCER
01:10 Nevo: https://puu.sh/wPc2V/76e18bc4a3.osz
01:10 Nevo: my sound on my pc
01:10 Nevo: is
01:10 Nevo: so broken rn
01:10 Nevo: lmao
01:11 Nevo: meow mewop
01:11 Nevo: flamo
01:11 Nevo: lmfao
01:12 Nevo: i got no sound
01:12 Nevo: except osu
01:12 Nevo: FUCK THE MAP AINT 4 STARS NO MROE
01:12 Nevo: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
01:12 Renumi: LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
01:12 Nevo: oh well i should still get my I star thing when i upload
01:12 Nevo: heres a fun fact
01:13 Nevo: all the striaght sliders in the map
01:13 Nevo: are rotated by 6 degrees
01:13 Nevo: except for one
01:13 Nevo: .....
01:13 Nevo: UNPLAYABLE
01:13 Nevo: fix
01:13 Nevo: ed
01:14 Renumi: 6 degrees?
01:14 Renumi: dang i did the same once
01:14 Renumi: except they were by 2 and not 6 xd
01:14 Nevo: :V
01:14 Nevo: i normally jsut make them all random
01:14 *Nevo is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1328650 supercell - The Bravery (TV Edit)]
01:15 Nevo: but after that i got triggered at how i made two differant rotations
01:15 Nevo: :V
01:15 Renumi: they all look the same lo
01:15 Nevo: :)
01:15 Nevo: the bravery has this part where i copy paster
01:15 Renumi: lmao
01:15 Nevo: but its two differant angels
01:15 Nevo: so i got
01:15 Nevo: REALLY TRIGGERED
01:16 Nevo: the fact that yubi is only 5.25 TRIGGERS ME
01:16 Renumi: only*? xd
01:16 Nevo: i want it to be more
01:16 Nevo: but like
01:16 Nevo: :(
01:17 Nevo: welp
01:17 Nevo: is it time to ungrave
01:17 Nevo: kibou
01:17 Renumi: time to get a million gd's and mods
01:17 Renumi: :^)
01:17 Nevo: nah imma get
01:17 Nevo: a easy noraml hard
01:18 Nevo: and call it a day
01:18 Nevo: its not some pp map like
01:18 Nevo: ...
01:18 Nevo: everyhitng i map
01:18 Nevo: :V
01:18 Nevo: lmfao 
01:18 Nevo: it has 40 sp
01:19 Nevo: just call a bn to it now
01:19 Nevo: ez
01:19 Renumi: kill it
01:19 Nevo: :c
01:19 Nevo: wait
01:19 Nevo: what
01:19 Nevo: are you saying delete it
01:19 Nevo: !
01:19 Nevo: :c
01:20 Renumi: nono
01:20 Renumi: :c
01:20 Renumi: haha woah 4:20 here
01:20 Renumi: blaze it man :eyes:
01:20 Nevo: ok
01:20 Nevo: what do i do right now
01:20 Nevo: ungrace?
01:20 Nevo: ve
01:20 Nevo: ?
01:20 Nevo: :;thi8ngik nmi:
01:23 Renumi: maybe??//..,
01:23 Renumi: i want kd too thanks
01:23 Renumi: i need to farm so i cna ebeocmeo bna ,.
01:24 Nevo: if i ungrave
01:24 Nevo: you need to gd
01:24 Nevo: remember
01:24 Nevo: :))))))))D)D)D)D)D)D
01:24 Nevo: penis
01:24 Nevo: (´・◡・｀)
01:24 Renumi: i could try xd
01:24 Nevo: fuck it
01:24 Nevo: wait
01:24 Nevo: actaully
01:24 Nevo: hmmmmmmm
01:24 Renumi: no promises :^)
01:24 Nevo: :C
01:24 Renumi: hmmmmmmmm? :c
01:24 Nevo: post the mod
01:24 Nevo: and if i ungrave
01:24 Nevo: i kds
01:24 Nevo: :D
01:24 Nevo: wait a second
01:24 Nevo: ....
01:25 Nevo: i dont wanna ungrave and not do anything
01:25 Nevo: ya feel
01:25 Renumi: smh
01:25 Nevo: i just
01:25 Renumi: yea
01:25 Nevo: need to logically think
01:26 Nevo: im sure i'll ungrave
01:26 Nevo: soon
01:27 Nevo: just
01:27 Nevo: gotta
01:27 Nevo: think
01:27 Nevo: :thinkginignign:
01:28 Renumi: okay y  ,, y,
01:28 Nevo: hmmmmmm
01:28 Nevo: i wonder if i can get gds
01:28 Nevo: who would
01:28 Nevo: i mean theres you
01:28 Nevo: but then
01:28 Nevo: :thignkning:
01:29 Nevo: i doubt i can map a hard
01:29 Nevo: actually
01:29 Nevo: i did try
01:29 Nevo: like last week
01:29 Nevo: eh
01:29 Renumi: hard diffs are just insanes mapped with a ds higher than 1.0x
01:29 Renumi: smh
01:29 Nevo: #announce
01:30 Renumi: poggers
01:30 Renumi: the madman has done it
01:32 Nevo: 331 days
01:32 Nevo: lfamo
01:34 Renumi: o
01:35 Renumi: should i post the irc
01:35 Nevo: sureeeeeee
01:35 Renumi: fuk eyaer
01:38 Renumi: ok posted kinda
01:39 Renumi: :^)
01:39 Nevo: lol
01:39 Nevo: one sec
coco
410 posts
Joined January 2017
coco
From my mod queue :D
Insane
00:15:946 (4,1) - For a second here you switched from following the vocalist to the guitar. If have been following guitar from the beginning, then 00:10:861 (1) and 00:11:539 (3) switch from guitar to vocalist.
If you say that you switched somewhere in between those 2 parts, notice that the whole beginning section's guitar and vocals line up so it's impossible to tell when you switch.
00:20:691 (1) - I think that if you want to emphasize this note you could consider putting it in the middle of the triangles rather than just making a larger jump.
01:08:652 (3,4) - This spacing is twice as large as the beats around it, but the 1/2 gaps are the same. There aren't any big changes in the music either, so you should keep the spacing the same as the other beats around it. Edit: after playing it a few more times I notice there are a lot more other instances of that same spacing thing. I'm not sure why, but it just feels like the one I pointed out is more noticeable and harder to hit.

This map has really good flow. I didn't even need to think to where I put my cursor (except maybe that little spacing problem), it just moved on its own.

Awesome anime. Even better map :)
Nevo
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Topic Starter
Nevo

cococolaco wrote:

From my mod queue :D
Insane
00:15:946 (4,1) - For a second here you switched from following the vocalist to the guitar. If have been following guitar from the beginning, then 00:10:861 (1) and 00:11:539 (3) switch from guitar to vocalist.
If you say that you switched somewhere in between those 2 parts, notice that the whole beginning section's guitar and vocals line up so it's impossible to tell when you switch.

With the section starting 00:13:573 (1) - and ending with 00:19:336 (1) - I was trying to repeat the same thing, by using an extended slider to reflect the vocal (00:13:573 (1) - 00:14:929 (1) - 00:17:641 (1) - ) since it sounds like he's start a new sentence or something idk. the exception is 00:16:285 (1) - which is just there for consistences sake. the sliders that follow the extended slider are trying to reflect that drum beat? I'm bad with instruments lol The beat repets its self three times then a new vocal starts. I may have gone overkill with explaining this section though lmao. 00:10:861 (1,2,3) - these sliders arent the same because they lack that drum beat in the background. IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE (im dumb)
tl;dr no change

00:20:691 (1) - I think that if you want to emphasize this note you could consider putting it in the middle of the triangles rather than just making a larger jump.

I like the bigger jump since it's easy to read and more conventional

01:08:652 (3,4) - This spacing is twice as large as the beats around it, but the 1/2 gaps are the same. There aren't any big changes in the music either, so you should keep the spacing the same as the other beats around it. Edit: after playing it a few more times I notice there are a lot more other instances of that same spacing thing. I'm not sure why, but it just feels like the one I pointed out is more noticeable and harder to hit.

the reasoning behind the spacing change is that 01:08:821 (4) - is a louder beat I think the reason it's uncomfortable is because of how its basically in the lowest part of the playfield so it may not feel very normal to hit, I'm going to leave it unless someone else says something about it.

This map has really good flow. I didn't even need to think to where I put my cursor (except maybe that little spacing problem), it just moved on its own.

Thank you :)

Awesome anime. Even better map :)
josh1024
232 posts
Joined October 2014
josh1024
From the queue:

I can smell the effort of 32 graveyarded maps from here lol.

Anyways just a few places that I felt uncomfortable.

00:05:607 (4) next note is stonger than this yet gap sizes suggests the opposite.
00:13:573 (1,2) maybe decrease the gap so they ressemble 00:14:929 (1,2) for consistency.
00:19:336 (1,2) not sure why you have small gap here while all gaps later are large not that 2 is weaker.
Nevo
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1,184 posts
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Topic Starter
Nevo

josh1024 wrote:

From the queue:

I can smell the effort of 32 graveyarded maps from here lol.

Anyways just a few places that I felt uncomfortable.

00:05:607 (4) next note is stonger than this yet gap sizes suggests the opposite.
00:13:573 (1,2) maybe decrease the gap so they ressemble 00:14:929 (1,2) for consistency.
00:19:336 (1,2) not sure why you have small gap here while all gaps later are large not that 2 is weaker.
applied all thank you :D
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