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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, April 17, 2017 at 9:52:06 PM

Artist: Kikuo
Title: Ten Sho Sho Ten Sho
Tags: Dubstep Hatsune_Miku Kikuo Vocaloid Kikuo_P Glitch hop Drumstep Vocastep Marathon Dolphin
BPM: 170
Filesize: 9608kb
Play Time: 06:04
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Taiko by the fabulous Dolphin
Timing by Charles445 and pishifat
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First.

rank this pls
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rank this pls

you are beautiful
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My god, this map. Sent chills down my spine as I was playing it. Once it's done I'm going to play the hell out of it until my fingers fall off.
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rly fun map but unrankable cause of all the unsnapped sliders

edit: ohh my... im so dumb its all snapped :o
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22:52 No Dap: Every SV change
22:52 No Dap: you need to put NC
22:52 Squigly: i do
22:52 No Dap: k
22:52 No Dap: also the intro
22:52 No Dap: SV change
22:52 No Dap: numbers are so random
22:53 No Dap: also this part 00:27:783 -  if you don't do NC
22:53 No Dap: players are gonna die
22:53 Squigly: but ive had bad hr players get passed that part
22:54 Squigly: it isnt as bad as you think c;
22:54 Squigly: i always have that in mind with my beginnings
22:54 Squigly: because i tend to have problems with beginnings
22:54 Squigly: ill make them a new combo though
22:54 No Dap: yeah that doesn't mean
22:54 No Dap: you can leave that like that
22:54 No Dap: also
22:54 No Dap: 01:00:246 - I really strongly recommend
22:54 No Dap: you don't use long 1/6 streams
22:54 Squigly: well
22:54 Squigly: i wouldnt either but
22:55 No Dap: players can of course pass that section if they just stream 
22:55 Squigly: i think i am have to go and keep it
22:55 No Dap: but its not really a good play
22:55 Squigly: yes
22:55 Squigly: yea
22:55 No Dap: cuz they are just streaming without any rhythm
22:55 Squigly: that is the rythym
22:55 Squigly: its 1/6
22:55 No Dap: I would use sliders
22:55 Squigly: i just dont want to make it too messy
22:56 No Dap: no you're making it messy
22:56 No Dap: by having a 1/6 stream there
22:56 Squigly: it looks fine and plays fine
22:56 Squigly: i know its 1/6
22:56 Squigly: there are 1/6 streams in a lot of maps
22:57 Squigly: sliders wouldnt be right is what im saying
22:57 No Dap: also you  lied about Nc 02:00:248 - 
22:57 Squigly: they dont fit
22:57 Squigly: yeah
22:57 Squigly: i dunno i didnt really think a repeating slider mattered i can fix it though
22:57 Squigly: if i must
22:57 Squigly: i know
22:57 No Dap: 02:00:998 - 
22:57 No Dap: what about this though
22:57 Squigly: but there isnt a problem with it
22:58 Squigly: yeah i know
22:58 Squigly: i just realized
22:58 Squigly: i map some of this when i am really tired maynh
22:58 No Dap:  are you absoultey sure this is 1/16? 02:04:953 (2) - 
22:58 Squigly: what would you think it too be
22:58 No Dap: this whole section 02:04:953 (2) - 
22:58 Squigly: it sounds most fitting to me
22:58 No Dap: I would add NC on every new bpm
22:59 No Dap: the thing is
22:59 No Dap: the hitsound is
22:59 No Dap: disgusting
22:59 Squigly: i havent changed them yet
22:59 No Dap: use 1/8
22:59 No Dap: I think it's more fitting
22:59 Squigly: i dont
22:59 Squigly: ...
23:01 No Dap: I think that's about it
23:01 No Dap: I don't wanna nazi mod
23:01 Squigly: mk
23:01 Squigly: lol
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22:52 No Dap: Every SV change
22:52 No Dap: you need to put NC
22:52 Squigly: i do
22:52 No Dap: k
22:52 No Dap: also the intro
22:52 No Dap: SV change
22:52 No Dap: numbers are so random
22:53 No Dap: also this part 00:27:783 -  if you don't do NC
22:53 No Dap: players are gonna die
22:53 Squigly: but ive had bad hr players get passed that part
22:54 Squigly: it isnt as bad as you think c;
22:54 Squigly: i always have that in mind with my beginnings
22:54 Squigly: because i tend to have problems with beginnings
22:54 Squigly: ill make them a new combo though
22:54 No Dap: yeah that doesn't mean
22:54 No Dap: you can leave that like that
22:54 No Dap: also
22:54 No Dap: 01:00:246 - I really strongly recommend
22:54 No Dap: you don't use long 1/6 streams
22:54 Squigly: well
22:54 Squigly: i wouldnt either but
22:55 No Dap: players can of course pass that section if they just stream 
22:55 Squigly: i think i am have to go and keep it
22:55 No Dap: but its not really a good play
22:55 Squigly: yes
22:55 Squigly: yea
22:55 No Dap: cuz they are just streaming without any rhythm
22:55 Squigly: that is the rythym
22:55 Squigly: its 1/6
22:55 No Dap: I would use sliders
22:55 Squigly: i just dont want to make it too messy
22:56 No Dap: no you're making it messy
22:56 No Dap: by having a 1/6 stream there
22:56 Squigly: it looks fine and plays fine
22:56 Squigly: i know its 1/6
22:56 Squigly: there are 1/6 streams in a lot of maps
22:57 Squigly: sliders wouldnt be right is what im saying
22:57 No Dap: also you  lied about Nc 02:00:248 - 
22:57 Squigly: they dont fit
22:57 Squigly: yeah
22:57 Squigly: i dunno i didnt really think a repeating slider mattered i can fix it though
22:57 Squigly: if i must
22:57 Squigly: i know
22:57 No Dap: 02:00:998 - 
22:57 No Dap: what about this though
22:57 Squigly: but there isnt a problem with it
22:58 Squigly: yeah i know
22:58 Squigly: i just realized
22:58 Squigly: i map some of this when i am really tired maynh
22:58 No Dap:  are you absoultey sure this is 1/16? 02:04:953 (2) - 
22:58 Squigly: what would you think it too be
22:58 No Dap: this whole section 02:04:953 (2) - 
22:58 Squigly: it sounds most fitting to me
22:58 No Dap: I would add NC on every new bpm
22:59 No Dap: the thing is
22:59 No Dap: the hitsound is
22:59 No Dap: disgusting
22:59 Squigly: i havent changed them yet
22:59 No Dap: use 1/8
22:59 No Dap: I think it's more fitting
22:59 Squigly: i dont
22:59 Squigly: ...
23:01 No Dap: I think that's about it
23:01 No Dap: I don't wanna nazi mod
23:01 Squigly: mk
23:01 Squigly: lol


now everyone see's our disagreements mom ;_;
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Uh, only difficulty

- 01:19:691 (5) - Maybe open this slider up a bit?
- 02:56:433 (1) - I don't really think this should be a new combo
- 03:17:169 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I like the idea of what you have going for this stream, but maybe spread it out just a tad bit? ;w;
- 03:29:717 (1) - Again here, I don't think a new combo is necessary
- 03:46:365 (1) - And here with the non-needing combo xD
- 04:14:630 (1) - You should make the ending of this spinner quieter o:
- 04:31:523 (1) - Maybe instead of making this slider curve the way it is, curve it to maybe like this, ( example ) That way it can match with the slider before it
- 05:04:591 (18) - I was thinking that you could add a note here. ( If that time that I put doesn't work, click this~ Time line picture. And I'm suggesting that, because if you listen, there's a beat in between the stream and the next repeating slider


There you go squigloo ;w; and remember, your map, your changes ><
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Short mod incoming ;w;
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Uh, only difficulty

- 01:19:691 (5) - Maybe open this slider up a bit?
- 02:56:433 (1) - I don't really think this should be a new combo
- 03:17:169 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I like the idea of what you have going for this stream, but maybe spread it out just a tad bit? ;w;
- 03:29:717 (1) - Again here, I don't think a new combo is necessary
- 03:46:365 (1) - And here with the non-needing combo xD
- 04:14:630 (1) - You should make the ending of this spinner quieter o:
- 04:31:523 (1) - Maybe instead of making this slider curve the way it is, curve it to maybe like this, ( example ) That way it can match with the slider before it
- 05:04:591 (18) - I was thinking that you could add a note here. ( If that time that I put doesn't work, click this~ Time line picture. And I'm suggesting that, because if you listen, there's a beat in between the stream and the next repeating slider


There you go squigloo ;w; and remember, your map, your changes ><

sv changes demand new combos, you silly girl >v>
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Generally SV changes do not require NC when there are multiple sliders slightly increasing/decreasing in similar pattern.


Example: 02:41:962 (1,1) - Follows a similar pattern so you don't need to double slider 1 here.


In the end it's all about mapper's preference. I find your mapping style and way of using new combos a bit confusing, but that's just me~
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https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1825609 raw shift f12, above is resized 66.6% scale or smth
IM NOT A SCRUBBA NOOB
here is replay hoho0h0h0h0 btw------ if this ever gets ranked, i will never be able to pull this off again + inb4 snowwhite HDHR 98%
http://puu.sh/aexql/02ba34ee85.osr
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https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1825609 raw shift f12, above is resized 66.6% scale or smth
IM NOT A SCRUBBA NOOB
here is replay hoho0h0h0h0 btw------ if this ever gets ranked, i will never be able to pull this off again + inb4 snowwhite HDHR 98%
http://puu.sh/aexql/02ba34ee85.osr

how many retries if i may ask c:
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Squigly wrote:
Axarious wrote:
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IM NOT A SCRUBBA NOOB
here is replay hoho0h0h0h0 btw------ if this ever gets ranked, i will never be able to pull this off again + inb4 snowwhite HDHR 98%
http://puu.sh/aexql/02ba34ee85.osr

how many retries if i may ask c:

One: last time I played this map was when you told me 'NO S SCRUB' '/me leaves' in #spectator.
Edit: your previous ver was like 1:50 + long break -> random spinner at 4-5 minutes in.
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Hello!

Well, I gotta say i am disapointed, this song had potential to have an amazing map, but what i played, it just wasn't how it was supposed to be... Unfortunately, i have to say that you don't have enough skill as a mapper to pull this off, and here is why:

- The map style for this really isn't fitting for a dubstep song, even if it has slow inherited points and fast ones, the sliders themselves are the biggest problem: being round and circular. It needed some squared points or just overall having bends to fit the bassline.
- The spacing looked too simple for any Insane/Extra difficulty map, looked like a beginner map at first.
- Lots of patterns don't really follow the song that well, and just seem to be filler objects, like 02:52:197 (3,4,5) or 05:43:394 (1,2,1), i still dont get what those part were supposed to follow.
- Also there appears to be some overmapping, places like these 00:51:246 (6,7) or 01:03:511 (5) where it just adds more objects for no apparent reason (none other than making the map more difficult on purpose that is).

Lastly, it needed new combo colors, but probably an even better idea: a Storyboard. If made properly, the storyboard could be something like changing BG color to warn about sudden slider velocities or simply different bpm changes that can be too hard to read out. Or simply something more enterntaining than a static BG that didn't really fit the song :\

Well I'll just have to say this: If you really want to continue with this map, i suggest practicing alot more with pattern creativity on complicated songs, mostly dubstep, creating also lots of different sliders as experience, and most importantly, play more maps. Because if you can play this map correctly everytime, it's even easier to detect it's flaws and looking for better ways to improve it.

Sorry if I wasn't helpful at all, i tried ;_;
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Well, I gotta say i am disapointed, this song had potential to have an amazing map, but what i played, it just wasn't how it was supposed to be... Unfortunately, i have to say that you don't have enough skill as a mapper to pull this off, and here is why:

- The map style for this really isn't fitting for a dubstep song, even if it has slow inherited points and fast ones, the sliders themselves are the biggest problem: being round and circular. It needed some squared points or just overall having bends to fit the bassline.
- The spacing looked too simple for any Insane/Extra difficulty map, looked like a beginner map at first.
- Lots of patterns don't really follow the song that well, and just seem to be filler objects, like 02:52:197 (3,4,5) or 05:43:394 (1,2,1), i still dont get what those part were supposed to follow.
- Also there appears to be some overmapping, places like these 00:51:246 (6,7) or 01:03:511 (5) where it just adds more objects for no apparent reason (none other than making the map more difficult on purpose that is).

Lastly, it needed new combo colors, but probably an even better idea: a Storyboard. If made properly, the storyboard could be something like changing BG color to warn about sudden slider velocities or simply different bpm changes that can be too hard to read out. Or simply something more enterntaining than a static BG that didn't really fit the song :\

Well I'll just have to say this: If you really want to continue with this map, i suggest practicing alot more with pattern creativity on complicated songs, mostly dubstep, creating also lots of different sliders as experience, and most importantly, play more maps. Because if you can play this map correctly everytime, it's even easier to detect it's flaws and looking for better ways to improve it.

Sorry if I wasn't helpful at all, i tried ;_;


that was an awful mod, dont ever start off saying something like that ever again. if you cant see where i was going with any of this then i think you should question yourself because apparently everyone else can. though i have been trying to find a storyboard. i never overmap, everything you pointed out was completely wrong, just dont take a map like mine next time please. clearly its too much.
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