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Feint - Outbreak (feat. MYLK)

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Kujinn
1,390 posts
Joined December 2013
Topic Starter
Kujinn
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday 28 November 2018 at 20:04:50

Artist: Feint
Title: Outbreak (feat. MYLK)
Source: Rocket League
Tags: kujinn kergio _orange stingy monstercat monster cat drum and n bass dnb electro dubstep
BPM: 175
Filesize: 5678kb
Play Time: 01:51
Difficulties Available:
  1. _orange's Normal (2.06 stars, 190 notes)
  2. Kergio's Insane (4.6 stars, 426 notes)
  3. Stingy's Hard (3.43 stars, 235 notes)
  4. Uprising (5.42 stars, 410 notes)
Download: Feint - Outbreak (feat. MYLK)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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#3

normal - _orange
hard - Stingy
insane - Kergio
extra - me

Check out Arutsuki's Map ~
Last edited by Kujinn , edited 46 times in total.
Grrum
886 posts
Joined November 2011
Grrum
Hi. Here for M4M from my queue. Hope this helps!

[General]

Imo, having a countdown doesn't complement a calm introduction of a song, and I would prefer not having one.

[Easy]

00:30:821 (2,3,1) – Don't you think this looks a bit misaligned? http://puu.sh/yu0BB/ce1e69b860.jpg I think there's more aesthetical connections you can make between these objects.

01:07:850 (1) – I got lectured by neonat on my map that my lowest difficulty didn't have enough moments of rest for new players. I do agree with that sentiment, and we worked together to find moments where 2/1 sliders would work. Do consider finding moments to take the player out of constant 1/1 rhythms. For instance, every other reverse slider starting at 01:10:592 (1) – and 01:16:078 (1) – could be turned to 2/1 sliders.

01:24:992 (2,3) – blanket is off

[_orange's Normal]

00:15:392 (3,4) – and 00:18:135 (5,1) – There's a little bit of jerky discomfort between these notes, which I think is totally fine, it's pretty easy to get adjusted to that, and it gives it a nice quirk. However, 00:12:992 (1,2) – is very smooth flow. I feel smooth flow isn't what this section is about, so try making the flow more jerky.

00:55:507 (3,4) – This rhythm felt unnatural and complicated. One reason is because sliderends are passive gameplay elements, so it didn't make sense that I was supposed to treat 00:55:678 – as a serious note. I'm sure you can think of some other rhythms that play a little nicer, but if you want my suggestion, I'd do this: http://puu.sh/yu0ho/aa205ac3a5.png

01:44:107 (2,3,4) – (3) is in a very unnatural places after a reverse slider. It feels kind of jerky to get to. Sometimes that's not so bad, but (4) is in such a natural place to be that it feels like I should click at (4) after the reverse. There's a big logical disconnect to me, and I don't think new players will be receptive to the complexity. Consider creating a different pattern here (it seems like you need more room) or rethinking what you want out of this.

[Stingy's Hard]

Map description says this is still WIP, and so let me know when you finish this and I'll mod it then. Just find me in game

01:51:735 (1) – It would make for a more cohesive mapset if you ended the map here like all the other difficulties. Additionally, I don't like the pacing of mapping this section out because it's so weak. Imagine if you were forced to watch the end credits of a movie.

[Kergio's ]

00:25:335 (1,2) – Explain what you're trying to do by making this a big jump. I was pretty confused why this note was supposed to be exciting. Instead of the current 2.88 spacing, I felt like 1.99 spacing like at 00:28:592 (2,3) – was a more natural way to play this part. If it's spaced this far for aesthetic reasons, I would prefer you use a different aesthetic.

00:32:021 – I know you're not going with the singer and that you want to express the downbeat and that I might not be the target audience, but I wish this strong vocal had more to it in the map. (Phew, glad I picked this one to show. Looking closer, some of these vocal syncopations are on a ¼ note which sounds like hell to emphasize so maybe just here since this vocal is strong)

01:07:850 (1) – Imo, the strong bass drop and start of the kiai should feel stronger than the drum build-up before this. It's possible that the 1/1 gap after 01:07:507 (1) – is causing me to feel too rested and not allowing enough emphasis on the bass drop. Consider making it a ½ slider.

[Uprising]

00:47:964 (3,4,5,6) – I like that there is a jump here, but this felt much more intense than the rest of this section. I didn't think this high intensity complemented the rest of the map or express anything in particular in the song, so I would prefer if the jump were smaller. Also, blankets like 00:47:621 (2,6) - are misaligned if you care.

01:07:850 (1,2,3,4,5) - Imo, the strong bass drop and start of the kiai should feel stronger than the drum build-up before this.

01:17:450 (1,2) – These notes are high-pitched. They feel different and special in the music. I like to think of osu! as a dance since movement is one of the key forms of engagement the game has to offer. I feel like the movement in the map does not go far enough to expressing the differences and unique sounds of the song. All of 01:15:221 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) – feel like the same pattern since the movement is the same clockwise flow, yet I feel there are more nuances like 01:17:450 (1,2) – that can be expressed by offering changes in direction and different flow structures. These details really help me connect with the experience.

01:30:650 (4,5) – I feel this is a hard way to introduce the new rhythm. (4) points up, but I'm supposed to move down, so it felt really jerky, and since I wasn't really sure of the rhythm yet, it felt pretty awkward. Compared to later parts like 01:36:135 (4,5,6) - , this part felt like too much.

Good luck!
HootOwlStar
765 posts
Joined May 2014
HootOwlStar
  • general
  1. this is probably one of the best background image i've ever seen in this game it's so impressive and fascinating
  2. disabling the countdown would serve better due to reasons enlisted by @pinataman and the countdown doesn't even sync with the bpm at all + remember to add in the tags
  3. starting from 00:34:935 - until 00:44:535 - consider to make a crescendo in hitsound volume for the lower difficulties since currently the introduction of the hitclap is too loud and out of the blue
  • easy
  1. aesthetic nitpicks: 00:21:221 (1,2) - extremely triggered that this pattern isn't a perfect reflection + 00:26:707 (1) - slider shape is quite unimpressive imo and https://puu.sh/yuf8M/1e933140df.JPG + 01:00:992 (1) - accidental nc
  2. 01:07:507 - this beat is essential since it's the opening of the drop, but it seems like the current restriction will be the spinner recovery time. consider to shorten the spinner to 01:06:478 - or start the spinner at 01:02:364 - or map the spinner part with circles and sliders idk
  3. 01:51:392 (5) - would suggest to convert the slider to two circles with one beat gap in between in order to emphasize 01:51:735 -
  • normal
  1. 00:18:135 (5) - would suggest splitting the slider to a circle followed by a slider at 00:18:478 - for better beat/bar counts
  2. this difficulty is relatively weak in selecting and portraying rhythm emphasis choices. the rhythm doesn't fit with the major sounds like in 01:11:964 (4,5) - 01:17:450 (4,5) - etc, and the way the beats are represented is confusing due to restrictions of distance snapping especially starting at 01:29:792 - . personally would suggest some reworks for the rhythm in the kiai sections
  • hard
  1. 00:44:192 (2,3,4,5,1) - suggestion for rhythm. placing a gap before 00:44:535 - would serve better in order for indication of lower rhythm intensity and the introduction of the pre-chorus
  2. starting from 00:56:878 - until 01:02:107 - I would suggest to rework on the rhythm choices. the 1/4 introductions are too out of the blue and gimmicky for the players of this level + the rhythm are too vocal-based instead of using overall representation which includes the drumbeats etc
  3. the spinners are ironically the let-down factor of this beatmap since the parts covered are so rich in rhythm and yet simply covered with spinners. consider to map those sections, it would be a plus overall
  4. the kiai sections are really fun to play to be honest so props for that
  • insane
  1. 01:19:678 (1) - accidental nc + 00:49:678 (4,1) - consider to stack as similar notes before eg. 00:46:592 (3,4) - 00:47:964 (3,4) -
  2. 01:16:592 (3,4) - 01:21:050 (4,5) - stacking in these parts doesn't contribute well in rhythm emphasis and they would be misleading to read since players might interpret them as 1/4 like in other stacks of the kiai
I believe the set would be great after some more polishing. anyway tons of luck
NeilPerry
301 posts
Joined May 2011
NeilPerry
Hello.

  • General:
  1. add tags abt genre, gders, etc.
  2. Recover widescreen supp from all diffs and count time(out of rythm) from yop diff easy and hard
  3. And just my suggestion make 4-th combocolour more bright to fit more for bg and being not so lackluster (try something like this https://puu.sh/yuiRa/e153ce30fe.png)


    Uprising:
  4. Put volume on timing red line with 30%. Unrankable issue
  5. 00:23:621 - place soft whistle for consistency
  6. 00:33:564 (1) - if you wanted to emphaze vocal with this reverse then it snapped not correctly. vocal placed on 1\6 ticks (https://puu.sh/yuiVt/4aedd166d3.jpg) but better way keep it 1\1 for consistency with previous reverses https://puu.sh/yuj39/71fe3f1541.jpg
  7. 00:36:135 - Should be clickable cuz oof vocal emphazing. You starting ignore it very sharp and create resonance in rythmic. try just copy previous stuff(https://puu.sh/ytQ0c/5052235f77.jpg)So in that way you will create more smooth bridge from part with vocal emphazing to part with beats emphzing
  8. 00:46:935 (4) - mby place slider 1\2 here cuz sound which u emphazed ends perfectly on red tick 00:47:107 - it should give more sense at all
  9. 00:52:421 (4) - same
  10. 00:58:250 (1,2,3,4) - 00:59:964 (2,3,4) - 01:02:707 (2,3,4) - 01:04:078 (2,3,4) - create more even ds for them. (http://puu.sh/ytQh9/512021bdb9.jpg) it will improve overall aesthetic xd
  11. 01:12:135 (2,3) - 01:17:621 (2,3) - 01:23:107 (2,3) - 01:24:907 (3,4) - 01:26:278 (3,4) - 01:31:335 (2,3) - 01:34:078 (2,3) - 01:36:821 (2,3) - 01:39:564 (2,3) - 01:42:307 (2,3) - 01:45:050 (2,3) - 01:47:792 (2,3) - 01:50:535 (2,3) - will be coll to add normal or soft whistle on that notes to make your hitsounds more brighter and emphazed background sound which they follow
  12. 01:46:592 (2) - move it right or blanket it with previous(i dont like how blanket will work tbh :D) http://puu.sh/yujaj/2712c74ac9.jpg

    Kergio's Insane:
  13. Put 20% volume on red timing point.
  14. 00:33:564 (1) - this i mentioned in top diff. it's wrongly snapped. vocal on 1\6 ticks. better just place it on 1\1 rythmic as previous.
  15. 00:38:707 (4) - NC for consistency
  16. 00:48:478 - what abt make it clickable to show intensity of music better? 00:47:964 (3,4,5) - cuz all 1\2 ticks got progression in music
  17. 01:35:021 - dont see any reason to skip clap beat. u emphazed it previously somehow
  18. 01:45:992 - same idea
  19. 01:40:249 (7) - u emphazed it with NC previously
  20. 01:45:392 (4) - same

    Stingy's Hard:
  21. U should make volume control. All map in 48% volume but sound parts a bit different with dynamic and volume. so better take example from top diff
  22. 00:23:964 - in this part was bad idea to catch vocal rythm cuz it wrongly snapped.
  23. 00:25:507 (4) - this is out of music following. u dont catch vocal as well and miss background sound as well too. place it on white ticks. 00:26:707 (1) - also shodnt be extend to red tick http://puu.sh/yukai/6f883811cb.jpg just use simple rythm for it. for now it sounds rly weird.
  24. 00:34:764 (1) - should start on white tick. for now sliderhead placed on nothing
  25. 00:36:478 (3) - randomly emphazed. 00:37:678 (1) - this havnt any sense with start on red tick https://puu.sh/yukhV/ac8699ec9f.jpg try this
  26. 00:39:221 (5,1) - same for this https://puu.sh/yukjQ/18ed67ebb4.jpg
  27. 00:56:878 - rise ds some for this part. looks rly clatchy
  28. 01:42:478 (5) - make it reverse to follow rythm concept
  29. 01:47:964 (5) - same
  30. 02:07:850 - mute spinner end

    Orange's Normal:
  31. As i told in hard diff. it should be controlled with volume more.
  32. 00:12:992 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - should be restruct by NC (in that way should be fine https://puu.sh/yukyW/78a966f6f8.jpg)
  33. 00:36:307 (4) - extend it to white tick to make more sense
  34. 00:39:050 (4) - same
  35. 01:12:478 (5) - what abt try change rythm of slider to make more sense? and it will looks more rythm structured http://puu.sh/yukFB/a82c1fcb07.jpg
  36. 01:17:964 (5) - 01:23:450 (5) - same for this
  37. 01:27:735 - dont see any reason ti skip this

    Easy:
  38. VOLUMEEEEEEEEE xd it should be volume change won useless greenlines
  39. 00:26:707 (1) - i know u can make it more even and will be cool to make perfect blanket with next object as (00:32:192 (1,2) - )
  40. 00:40:421 (1) - 00:43:164 (1) - as it dnb stuff u can up low diff quality by hitsounding slider ticks. for now its sounds rly abruptly

    best of luck o/
_orange
440 posts
Joined September 2015
_orange

NeilPerry wrote:

Hello.


  • Orange's Normal:
  1. As i told in hard diff. it should be controlled with volume more. yeah. i copied volumes from top diff
  2. 00:12:992 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - should be restruct by NC (in that way should be fine https://puu.sh/yukyW/78a966f6f8.jpg) i thiink its okay, if anyone else suggests it then ill change
  3. 00:36:307 (4) - extend it to white tick to make more sense
  4. 00:39:050 (4) - same idk i want to follow the vocals
  5. 01:12:478 (5) - what abt try change rythm of slider to make more sense? and it will looks more rythm structured http://puu.sh/yukFB/a82c1fcb07.jpg maybe if someone else suggests to do this
  6. 01:17:964 (5) - 01:23:450 (5) - same for this
  7. 01:27:735 - dont see any reason ti skip this following synth

HootOwlStar wrote:

[notice]

  • normal
  1. 00:18:135 (5) - would suggest splitting the slider to a circle followed by a slider at 00:18:478 - for better beat/bar counts but it's the same as the others
  2. this difficulty is relatively weak in selecting and portraying rhythm emphasis choices. the rhythm doesn't fit with the major sounds like in 01:11:964 (4,5) - 01:17:450 (4,5) - etc, and the way the beats are represented is confusing due to restrictions of distance snapping especially starting at 01:29:792 - . personally would suggest some reworks for the rhythm in the kiai sections could you be more specific? what do you want me to change about the rhythm? make it denser?

pinataman wrote:

[_orange's Normal]

00:15:392 (3,4) – and 00:18:135 (5,1) – There's a little bit of jerky discomfort between these notes, which I think is totally fine, it's pretty easy to get adjusted to that, and it gives it a nice quirk. However, 00:12:992 (1,2) – is very smooth flow. I feel smooth flow isn't what this section is about, so try making the flow more jerky.

00:55:507 (3,4) – This rhythm felt unnatural and complicated. One reason is because sliderends are passive gameplay elements, so it didn't make sense that I was supposed to treat 00:55:678 – as a serious note. I'm sure you can think of some other rhythms that play a little nicer, but if you want my suggestion, I'd do this: http://puu.sh/yu0ho/aa205ac3a5.png

01:44:107 (2,3,4) – (3) is in a very unnatural places after a reverse slider. It feels kind of jerky to get to. Sometimes that's not so bad, but (4) is in such a natural place to be that it feels like I should click at (4) after the reverse. There's a big logical disconnect to me, and I don't think new players will be receptive to the complexity. Consider creating a different pattern here (it seems like you need more room) or rethinking what you want out of this.
no reply = fixed
thanks everyone!

aaa
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beaw
637 posts
Joined July 2015
beaw

pinataman wrote:

[Stingy's Hard]
01:51:735 (1) – It would make for a more cohesive mapset if you ended the map here like all the other difficulties. Additionally, I don't like the pacing of mapping this section out because it's so weak. Imagine if you were forced to watch the end credits of a movie. idk what else to do

HootOwlStar wrote:

  • hard
  1. 00:44:192 (2,3,4,5,1) - suggestion for rhythm. placing a gap before 00:44:535 - would serve better in order for indication of lower rhythm intensity and the introduction of the pre-chorus <3 nice
  2. starting from 00:56:878 - until 01:02:107 - I would suggest to rework on the rhythm choices. the 1/4 introductions are too out of the blue and gimmicky for the players of this level + the rhythm are too vocal-based instead of using overall representation which includes the drumbeats etc fixed a tad bit :o
  3. the spinners are ironically the let-down factor of this beatmap since the parts covered are so rich in rhythm and yet simply covered with spinners. consider to map those sections, it would be a plus overall okie <3
  4. the kiai sections are really fun to play to be honest so props for that thanks a lot ;w;

NeilPerry wrote:

Stingy's Hard:
  1. U should make volume control. All map in 48% volume but sound parts a bit different with dynamic and volume. so better take example from top diff
  2. 00:23:964 - in this part was bad idea to catch vocal rythm cuz it wrongly snapped. what
  3. 00:25:507 (4) - this is out of music following. u dont catch vocal as well and miss background sound as well too. place it on white ticks. 00:26:707 (1) - also shodnt be extend to red tick http://puu.sh/yukai/6f883811cb.jpg just use simple rythm for it. for now it sounds rly weird. I really think it's okaty because the whole point of the section is vocals ;w; and it does follow them?
  4. 00:34:764 (1) - should start on white tick. for now sliderhead placed on nothing vocal?
  5. 00:36:478 (3) - randomly emphazed. 00:37:678 (1) - this havnt any sense with start on red tick https://puu.sh/yukhV/ac8699ec9f.jpg try this ;w;?
  6. 00:39:221 (5,1) - same for this https://puu.sh/yukjQ/18ed67ebb4.jpg ;w;??
  7. 00:56:878 - rise ds some for this part. looks rly clatchy okay :o
  8. 01:42:478 (5) - make it reverse to follow rythm concept hmmm but I like how it is c; it adds variation
  9. 01:47:964 (5) - same
  10. 02:07:850 - mute spinner end
http://puu.sh/yvG95/371d002ab5.osu

Kujinn, please fix any hitsounding issues!
Last edited by beaw , edited 3 times in total.
_orange
440 posts
Joined September 2015
_orange
update for my normal diff bc HOS explained what he meant

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Kergio
140 posts
Joined December 2014
Kergio

pinataman wrote:

Hi. Here for M4M from my queue. Hope this helps!

[Kergio's ]

00:25:335 (1,2) – Explain what you're trying to do by making this a big jump. I was pretty confused why this note was supposed to be exciting. Instead of the current 2.88 spacing, I felt like 1.99 spacing like at 00:28:592 (2,3) – was a more natural way to play this part. If it's spaced this far for aesthetic reasons, I would prefer you use a different aesthetic. Changed (I hope this is better)

00:32:021 – I know you're not going with the singer and that you want to express the downbeat and that I might not be the target audience, but I wish this strong vocal had more to it in the map. (Phew, glad I picked this one to show. Looking closer, some of these vocal syncopations are on a ¼ note which sounds like hell to emphasize so maybe just here since this vocal is strong) I'd rather leave it the way it is

01:07:850 (1) – Imo, the strong bass drop and start of the kiai should feel stronger than the drum build-up before this. It's possible that the 1/1 gap after 01:07:507 (1) – is causing me to feel too rested and not allowing enough emphasis on the bass drop. Consider making it a ½ slider. I think it's fine

Good luck!

NeilPerry wrote:

Hello.


  • Kergio's Insane:
  1. Put 20% volume on red timing point. Ok
  2. 00:33:564 (1) - this i mentioned in top diff. it's wrongly snapped. vocal on 1\6 ticks. better just place it on 1\1 rythmic as previous.Ok
  3. 00:38:707 (4) - NC for consistency Ok
  4. 00:48:478 - what abt make it clickable to show intensity of music better? 00:47:964 (3,4,5) - cuz all 1\2 ticks got progression in music
  5. 01:35:021 - dont see any reason to skip clap beat. u emphazed it previously somehow Changed
  6. 01:45:992 - same idea Changed
  7. 01:40:249 (7) - u emphazed it with NC previously
  8. 01:45:392 (4) - same


    best of luck o/

HootOwlStar wrote:

  • general
  1. this is probably one of the best background image i've ever seen in this game it's so impressive and fascinating Tbh yeah

    • insane
    1. 01:19:678 (1) - accidental nc + 00:49:678 (4,1) - consider to stack as similar notes before eg. 00:46:592 (3,4) - 00:47:964 (3,4) - stacked and removed NC
    2. 01:16:592 (3,4) - 01:21:050 (4,5) - stacking in these parts doesn't contribute well in rhythm emphasis and they would be misleading to read since players might interpret them as 1/4 like in other stacks of the kiai Changed
I believe the set would be great after some more polishing. anyway tons of luck
Thanks you guys

Update
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Grrum
886 posts
Joined November 2011
Grrum
Hey. Continuation from my previous mod, so no kudosu. Also, remove the WIP label on the map description for Stingy's Hard to remove any confusion to modders since I didn't want to have to mod something twice in case this was going to be changed.

[Stingy's Hard]

Include a kiai

00:29:278 (1) – This is going with the vocals, so it feels weird that the strong vocal at 00:32:535 – isn't acknowledged. Can you end the slider there or change the rhythm up that draws attention to that vocals to stay consistent with 00:29:278 (1) – ?

00:58:421 (5,1) – This is going really strong with the vocals, but then 00:59:621 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) – is ignoring the vocals. There was a rhythmic disconnect with the song here for me. The problem is probably more with 00:58:421 (5,1) – since everything else is going with the drums.

01:07:850 (1) – This is overlapping the HP bar. http://puu.sh/yxvTP/aae1550bbd.jpg. Try bringing it down.

01:42:478 (5,6) – This ¾ gap felt pretty unintuitive. I really had to force myself to wait that extra amount of time which didn't feel right. You've been doing a reverse slider at similar places like 01:31:764 (6) - and I didn't understand why I was supposed to change my rhythm up, so I feel like that would play nicer for this part.

01:51:735 (1) – Following up from above, what you could do is delete all the objects after this and make the spinner end here instead. Or maybe put a circle here and then delete everything after this.
beaw
637 posts
Joined July 2015
beaw

pinataman wrote:

Hey. Continuation from my previous mod, so no kudosu. Also, remove the WIP label on the map description for Stingy's Hard to remove any confusion to modders since I didn't want to have to mod something twice in case this was going to be changed.

[Stingy's Hard]

Include a kiai ok

00:29:278 (1) – This is going with the vocals, so it feels weird that the strong vocal at 00:32:535 – isn't acknowledged. Can you end the slider there or change the rhythm up that draws attention to that vocals to stay consistent with 00:29:278 (1) – ? ok

00:58:421 (5,1) – This is going really strong with the vocals, but then 00:59:621 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) – is ignoring the vocals. There was a rhythmic disconnect with the song here for me. The problem is probably more with 00:58:421 (5,1) – since everything else is going with the drums. I'm confused because it does follow drums. I just have a note there for filler.

01:07:850 (1) – This is overlapping the HP bar. http://puu.sh/yxvTP/aae1550bbd.jpg. Try bringing it down. moved to the right, too.

01:42:478 (5,6) – This ¾ gap felt pretty unintuitive. I really had to force myself to wait that extra amount of time which didn't feel right. You've been doing a reverse slider at similar places like 01:31:764 (6) - and I didn't understand why I was supposed to change my rhythm up, so I feel like that would play nicer for this part. I'm really confused too because it's just a variation even though it's the same rhythm in the music.

01:51:735 (1) – Following up from above, what you could do is delete all the objects after this and make the spinner end here instead. Or maybe put a circle here and then delete everything after this. why was I the only one who mapped that lmao
http://puu.sh/yIQmQ/8e92792497.osu.
Kujinn
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Kujinn
Revived, will reply to mods soon.
_orange
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_orange
🎉
Kergio
140 posts
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Kergio
woah
beaw
637 posts
Joined July 2015
beaw
yes
Kujinn
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should I switch to modv2?
Arutsuki
630 posts
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Arutsuki
don't go v2, only villains do that
Mir
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Mir
hi

add tags >:

for all diffs:
hitsounding-wise its weird that every finish is placed with sacrificing the kick hitsound when you can easily use drum sampleset + soft additions to get the finish + the kick which is particularly obvious in places like 01:40:764 - (on the topdiff). there should be a kick here because every other pattern has one here, but because theres a finish somehow a kick isnt put here x_x

normal:
01:43:507 (1,2,3,4,5) - this whole pattern looks out of place with the map, 1,2 is overlapped and 3,4 have the same visual distance from 2 which could be confusing to newer players. i think if you rearranged this a bit it could be more fitting and easier to understand, especially with rhythm this weird

00:34:935 - hitsounding here is weird with the rhythm you used. youre focusing vocals pretty hard which leaves random snares/kicks to sound on some beats. i think removing the drum hitsounds and replacing it with more whistles then starting the drums from 00:40:421 - where there's more density to support those hitsounds would be less jarring.

easy diff did this better by keeping the snares all covered by something, like 00:36:650 - 00:39:392 - are empty in this diff. if you want to cover those sounds it would be a lot better cuz the snare is usually the thing people keep constant in passive hitsounding anyways.. up to you what you want to do here

hard diff also suffers from this issue. same solutions are posed to it but it might be better to just remove the drum hitsounding and use more whistles since the rhythm heavily favors vocals

hard:
00:57:564 (3,4) - can you raise spacing to like 1.1x so these and similar patterns dont overlap?

01:22:250 (3) - implied flow says this should probably be straight, but up to you

01:36:392 - missing kick

01:49:078 (1) - honestly this seems like such a cop-out lol.. there's still stuff to map here even though theres a whirring sound in the back. really takes away from the full feeling of this part by just putting a spinner here. seems like more something i'd see in an easy/normal diff but definitely not in a hard diff (even the easy/normal mapped this out)

01:51:735 - this whole part has no hitsounds because nobody else mapped it, so add some whistles or something here

insane:

01:06:821 - would just continue the hitsounding on all 1/4, really weird to just hitsound 1/2 but be playing 1/4 especially when the song is doing 1/4

for all of these ncs 01:34:507 (1,2) - you could swap them because the blue tick doesnt really fit to be nc'd when the song emphasizes the white
for all of these triples 01:35:021 (4,5) - they seem exactly like 01:31:335 (2,3,4) - but dont have a drum on the 4, so a rhythm like https://i.imgur.com/uaWDet6.png might fit if you want to follow the drums more. hitsound accordingly if you do

01:51:478 - skipped sound here that you mapped for 01:50:964 (1,2) - which seems weird. i get that you wanna keep the star pattern but it hurts the consistency. maybe try a 1/4 slider of some kind? or just a square pattern instead if you end up changing the rhythm

another:
00:02:021 (1,2,3,4) - vs. 00:04:764 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - contrast in density is way too high. i get the variation but going from circle + 1/1 reverse to 4 1/1 circles is too big of a change. it could be less contrasting if you replaced 00:04:764 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - with 1/1 sliders instead like https://i.imgur.com/qSAWI1X.png which would fit way more imo

00:24:992 (6,7,8,9,1) - i wouldn't put full 5 note bursts in one of the calmest parts of the songs, even with this low spacing... it just feels like the calmness of the song isn't being represented well with having such high density spikes. i wouldn't do more than a triple for this part, and even then having too many triples in a row ruins the feel too so

00:36:307 - 00:37:421 - 00:44:535 (1) - 00:45:907 - kick hitsound

01:17:278 (2) - kinda expected this to be ctrl+g considering the rest of the pattern, even if 01:17:450 (1) - is further down it just plays better to me cuz its more expected and was done for 01:22:078 (2,2,2) - as well

speaking of 01:22:078 (2,2,2) -, 01:22:421 (2) - looks kinda out of place cuz of the overlap with 01:22:078 (2,2) - which makes it stand out a lot. maybe a pattern like https://i.imgur.com/1jKXXGi.jpg would be nice?

01:28:421 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - this is.. overkill imo. there's nothing significant on the white ticks to warrant a streamjump and not even the topdiff does any of this stuff. i can let the spaced 1/4 01:11:964 (1,2,3) - slide even though i don't think they are fitting either, but i cannot agree with the streamjumps here

01:41:792 - 01:43:164 - 01:44:535 - 01:47:278 - 01:48:650 - 01:50:021 - missing claps

uprising
00:39:907 - unsure why these are hitsounded with kicks and 00:34:935 - arent.. they're both kickdrums in the song so its probably worth covering both.

01:06:821 (1,2,1,2) - as i mentioned in the insane, the song does support 1/4 snares here so hitsounding that could be nice


double check your hitsounds cuz i found a lot of issues with them, and make sure they fit the rhythm of the diff you're copying to (if you use the copier) because with the normal and hard there's clear conflict between the rhythm mapped and the rhythm hitsounded

depending on the replies i get you may call me back for this.
Arutsuki
630 posts
Joined December 2015
Arutsuki

Mir wrote:

hi

another:
00:02:021 (1,2,3,4) - vs. 00:04:764 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - contrast in density is way too high. i get the variation but going from circle + 1/1 reverse to 4 1/1 circles is too big of a change. it could be less contrasting if you replaced 00:04:764 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - with 1/1 sliders instead like https://i.imgur.com/qSAWI1X.png which would fit way more imo i can change this if you really insist on it but it's literally just 1/1s... there's no real "contrast" apparent from it since it's so slow and mindless to play. it would be a whole different story with 1/2s for example but these slow rhythms don't really matter that much lol

00:24:992 (6,7,8,9,1) - i wouldn't put full 5 note bursts in one of the calmest parts of the songs, even with this low spacing... it just feels like the calmness of the song isn't being represented well with having such high density spikes. i wouldn't do more than a triple for this part, and even then having too many triples in a row ruins the feel too so I feel like they're justified cuz the background hi-hats go constantly and it's fitting to fill up rhythm gaps with it. like you said they're very low spacing which again makes it mindlessly simple to play compared to the other, more intense parts. even the part after puts the player more on edge with the rhtyhm complexity difference. density isn't the only factor

00:36:307 - 00:37:421 - 00:44:535 (1) - 00:45:907 - kick hitsound fixed

01:17:278 (2) - kinda expected this to be ctrl+g considering the rest of the pattern, even if 01:17:450 (1) - is further down it just plays better to me cuz its more expected and was done for 01:22:078 (2,2,2) - as well but then 01:11:792 (2) - wouldn't be consistent with those and there's no way it would play better ctrl+g. I can 01:22:764 (2) - ctrl+g this instead to keep it all consistent and well introduced

speaking of 01:22:078 (2,2,2) -, 01:22:421 (2) - looks kinda out of place cuz of the overlap with 01:22:078 (2,2) - which makes it stand out a lot. maybe a pattern like https://i.imgur.com/1jKXXGi.jpg would be nice? good point, i'll arrange it to overlap like 01:16:593 (2,2,2) -

01:28:421 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - this is.. overkill imo. there's nothing significant on the white ticks to warrant a streamjump and not even the topdiff does any of this stuff. i can let the spaced 1/4 01:11:964 (1,2,3) - slide even though i don't think they are fitting either, but i cannot agree with the streamjumps here yea i agree the difference isn't big enough for that spacing, changed so it keeps the quad formation but the jump isn't actually spaced with the exception of 01:29:364 (4,1) -

01:41:792 - 01:43:164 - 01:44:535 - 01:47:278 - 01:48:650 - 01:50:021 - missing claps wasnt too sure about it cuz it would just be giving feedback on something you don't click, but fixed now anyway
thank you for modding

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_orange
440 posts
Joined September 2015
_orange

Mir wrote:

normal:
01:43:507 (1,2,3,4,5) - this whole pattern looks out of place with the map, 1,2 is overlapped and 3,4 have the same visual distance from 2 which could be confusing to newer players. i think if you rearranged this a bit it could be more fitting and easier to understand, especially with rhythm this weird yeah i fixed this in a previous mod Reform/(or should i still say kujinn?) didn't see the post!!!11

reform said he was going to handle hs stuff
00:34:935 - hitsounding here is weird with the rhythm you used. youre focusing vocals pretty hard which leaves random snares/kicks to sound on some beats. i think removing the drum hitsounds and replacing it with more whistles then starting the drums from 00:40:421 - where there's more density to support those hitsounds would be less jarring.

easy diff did this better by keeping the snares all covered by something, like 00:36:650 - 00:39:392 - are empty in this diff. if you want to cover those sounds it would be a lot better cuz the snare is usually the thing people keep constant in passive hitsounding anyways.. up to you what you want to do here
@reform
APPLY THIS UPDATE FROM BEFORE p/6379894
Kergio
140 posts
Joined December 2014
Kergio

Mir wrote:

hi


insane:

01:06:821 - would just continue the hitsounding on all 1/4, really weird to just hitsound 1/2 but be playing 1/4 especially when the song is doing 1/4
Reform is said he was gonna fix hitsounds and stuff

for all of these ncs 01:34:507 (1,2) - you could swap them because the blue tick doesnt really fit to be nc'd when the song emphasizes the white
Alright, Fixed NC's

for all of these triples 01:35:021 (4,5) - they seem exactly like 01:31:335 (2,3,4) - but dont have a drum on the 4, so a rhythm like https://i.imgur.com/uaWDet6.png might fit if you want to follow the drums more. hitsound accordingly if you do. I think it's fine the way it is

01:51:478 - skipped sound here that you mapped for 01:50:964 (1,2) - which seems weird. i get that you wanna keep the star pattern but it hurts the consistency. maybe try a 1/4 slider of some kind? or just a square pattern instead if you end up changing the rhythm.
Alright fixed
Kujinn
1,390 posts
Joined December 2013
Topic Starter
Kujinn

Mir wrote:

hi

add tags >:

for all diffs:
hitsounding-wise its weird that every finish is placed with sacrificing the kick hitsound when you can easily use drum sampleset + soft additions to get the finish + the kick which is particularly obvious in places like 01:40:764 - (on the topdiff). there should be a kick here because every other pattern has one here, but because theres a finish somehow a kick isnt put here x_x

normal:
01:43:507 (1,2,3,4,5) - this whole pattern looks out of place with the map, 1,2 is overlapped and 3,4 have the same visual distance from 2 which could be confusing to newer players. i think if you rearranged this a bit it could be more fitting and easier to understand, especially with rhythm this weird

00:34:935 - hitsounding here is weird with the rhythm you used. youre focusing vocals pretty hard which leaves random snares/kicks to sound on some beats. i think removing the drum hitsounds and replacing it with more whistles then starting the drums from 00:40:421 - where there's more density to support those hitsounds would be less jarring.

easy diff did this better by keeping the snares all covered by something, like 00:36:650 - 00:39:392 - are empty in this diff. if you want to cover those sounds it would be a lot better cuz the snare is usually the thing people keep constant in passive hitsounding anyways.. up to you what you want to do here

hard diff also suffers from this issue. same solutions are posed to it but it might be better to just remove the drum hitsounding and use more whistles since the rhythm heavily favors vocals

hard:
00:57:564 (3,4) - can you raise spacing to like 1.1x so these and similar patterns dont overlap?

01:22:250 (3) - implied flow says this should probably be straight, but up to you

01:36:392 - missing kick

01:49:078 (1) - honestly this seems like such a cop-out lol.. there's still stuff to map here even though theres a whirring sound in the back. really takes away from the full feeling of this part by just putting a spinner here. seems like more something i'd see in an easy/normal diff but definitely not in a hard diff (even the easy/normal mapped this out)

01:51:735 - this whole part has no hitsounds because nobody else mapped it, so add some whistles or something here

insane:

01:06:821 - would just continue the hitsounding on all 1/4, really weird to just hitsound 1/2 but be playing 1/4 especially when the song is doing 1/4

for all of these ncs 01:34:507 (1,2) - you could swap them because the blue tick doesnt really fit to be nc'd when the song emphasizes the white
for all of these triples 01:35:021 (4,5) - they seem exactly like 01:31:335 (2,3,4) - but dont have a drum on the 4, so a rhythm like https://i.imgur.com/uaWDet6.png might fit if you want to follow the drums more. hitsound accordingly if you do

01:51:478 - skipped sound here that you mapped for 01:50:964 (1,2) - which seems weird. i get that you wanna keep the star pattern but it hurts the consistency. maybe try a 1/4 slider of some kind? or just a square pattern instead if you end up changing the rhythm

another:
00:02:021 (1,2,3,4) - vs. 00:04:764 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - contrast in density is way too high. i get the variation but going from circle + 1/1 reverse to 4 1/1 circles is too big of a change. it could be less contrasting if you replaced 00:04:764 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - with 1/1 sliders instead like https://i.imgur.com/qSAWI1X.png which would fit way more imo

00:24:992 (6,7,8,9,1) - i wouldn't put full 5 note bursts in one of the calmest parts of the songs, even with this low spacing... it just feels like the calmness of the song isn't being represented well with having such high density spikes. i wouldn't do more than a triple for this part, and even then having too many triples in a row ruins the feel too so

00:36:307 - 00:37:421 - 00:44:535 (1) - 00:45:907 - kick hitsound

01:17:278 (2) - kinda expected this to be ctrl+g considering the rest of the pattern, even if 01:17:450 (1) - is further down it just plays better to me cuz its more expected and was done for 01:22:078 (2,2,2) - as well

speaking of 01:22:078 (2,2,2) -, 01:22:421 (2) - looks kinda out of place cuz of the overlap with 01:22:078 (2,2) - which makes it stand out a lot. maybe a pattern like https://i.imgur.com/1jKXXGi.jpg would be nice?

01:28:421 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - this is.. overkill imo. there's nothing significant on the white ticks to warrant a streamjump and not even the topdiff does any of this stuff. i can let the spaced 1/4 01:11:964 (1,2,3) - slide even though i don't think they are fitting either, but i cannot agree with the streamjumps here

01:41:792 - 01:43:164 - 01:44:535 - 01:47:278 - 01:48:650 - 01:50:021 - missing claps

uprising
00:39:907 - unsure why these are hitsounded with kicks and 00:34:935 - arent.. they're both kickdrums in the song so its probably worth covering both.

01:06:821 (1,2,1,2) - as i mentioned in the insane, the song does support 1/4 snares here so hitsounding that could be nice


double check your hitsounds cuz i found a lot of issues with them, and make sure they fit the rhythm of the diff you're copying to (if you use the copier) because with the normal and hard there's clear conflict between the rhythm mapped and the rhythm hitsounded

depending on the replies i get you may call me back for this.
fix hitsounds on all diffs and applied mods. Also added tags and stuff ~
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hard
01:00:307 (3,4) - ds

insane
01:50:964 (1,2) - nc swap

another
yeah i still think the intro density switches too abruptly with 00:02:021 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - etc
the quints are.. in the wrong spot too i noticed after talking to lasse. https://i.imgur.com/hT6Wo9G.png should be https://i.imgur.com/pDmUdO1.png instead :/

01:29:364 (4,1) - spacing here should be similar to 01:28:678 (4,1) - cuz having the only streamjump in the map at the end of a 13 note stream 65% into the map is pretty cruel

01:30:821 (4,5) - also eehhh on second thought not really too much fan of these after looking more closely on the recheck. they feel a little too much in the context of the spread. for an insane these seem very forced into the map, it would fit more on an extra than an insane imo anyway cuz they just feel overdone. as i mentioned in my original post i dont really like them so much and thinking over it further, they're a core part of the structure of the map. i'll just leave it be assuming you aren't going to change them (which is kinda what i expect considering your previous reply)

anyways, since im basically saying im not particularly a fan of the concepts and density used in the another diff i'll take my leave. good luck with the set~
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Arutsuki's Another removed as requested.
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Mir wrote:

insane
01:50:964 (1,2) - nc swap
yes
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i didnt mean you had to remove it lol...
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Mir wrote:

i didnt mean you had to remove it lol...
LOL, no, Arutsuki asked for it to be removed.
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o

also the hard diff.. would be nice if i had a reply so i know what changed @Stingy
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Mir wrote:

o

also the hard diff.. would be nice if i had a reply so i know what changed @Stingy


I’ve tried telling you twice that I remapped it and you modded before it updated but you never answered me
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thats what the forums are for

so whats the status on it? is it remapped and up to date or..?
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Mir wrote:

thats what the forums are for

so whats the status on it? is it remapped and up to date or..?

No I’m not at home and I haven’t sent it to Reform yet. ;/

Some parts of it are remapped though
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stingy:
00:37:507 (1) - should be like this: https://i.imgur.com/MI7QTLj.png could just add a circle on 00:37:507 -
01:11:278 (3,2,3,4) - the stack is eww can you manually stack the triple underneath
01:34:935 (7) - could make these 1/4 reverses so you can capture the blue tick drum
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Mir wrote:

stingy:
00:37:507 (1) - should be like this: https://i.imgur.com/MI7QTLj.png could just add a circle on 00:37:507 -
01:11:278 (3,2,3,4) - the stack is eww can you manually stack the triple underneath
01:34:935 (7) - could make these 1/4 reverses so you can capture the blue tick drum
fixed all will gib update when you inswer my ingame messages lmfao
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Stingy wrote:

Mir wrote:

stingy:
00:37:507 (1) - should be like this: https://i.imgur.com/MI7QTLj.png could just add a circle on 00:37:507 -
01:11:278 (3,2,3,4) - the stack is eww can you manually stack the triple underneath
01:34:935 (7) - could make these 1/4 reverses so you can capture the blue tick drum
fixed all will gib update when you inswer my ingame messages lmfao
Updated ~
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seems fine to me. tell me when you're ready to get this rolling
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was told it's ready, lets go
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self popped, fixed volumes on _orange's normal
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easy spinners needs more recovery time
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Strategas wrote:

easy spinners needs more recovery time
Lowered both spinners to 1 measure rather than 1 and a half
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hard
00:18:478 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - first square with no emphasis on 4th note, the second is?
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Normal and ex : 01:06:478 - Isn't the volume decrease too drastic here, The kick at 01:06:478 - is still really loud and 20% HS volume makes the hitobjects sound almost inaudible.
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DeRandom Otaku wrote:

Normal and ex : 01:06:478 - Isn't the volume decrease too drastic here, The kick at 01:06:478 - is still really loud and 20% HS volume makes the hitobjects sound almost inaudible.
Removed those points and have volume at 55%. It was initially for build up but now that I listen to the music, it isn't necessary.
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Strategas wrote:

hard
00:18:478 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - first square with no emphasis on 4th note, the second is?
you explained in discord but I still don't understand

http://puu.sh/B9nhD/ae93935815.osu
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updated stingy's diff
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for stingy
00:18:478 (1,2,3,4) - is a perfect square while 00:19:850 (1,2,3,4) - is not a perfect square - it has 00:20:878 (4) - spaced more than the rest. is there a reason for that?
can't really put it any other way

also kudosu my bub pop post ty
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Strategas wrote:

for stingy
00:18:478 (1,2,3,4) - is a perfect square while 00:19:850 (1,2,3,4) - is not a perfect square - it has 00:20:878 (4) - spaced more than the rest. is there a reason for that?
can't really put it any other way

also kudosu my bub pop post ty

I really have no idea what you want but I already updated it so I hope it’s fine ;w; they’re all stacked now
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hmm lets try like this

00:19:850 (1,2,3) - has 0.85x ds spacing and 00:20:535 (3,4) - has 1.00x ds spacing making the square inperfect

it's really not a big deal just a thing I noticed and seems like a mistake, so would rather see that adjusted before nominating
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maybe use pictures to illustrate what you mean..? xD
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thought about pictures, but I don't think it's obvious enough when it comes to polishing shapes

current

should be
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Wtf how did I not notice that I’ll fix when I’m home
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http://puu.sh/Bg0kZ/1942fe0fcf.osu
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Stingy wrote:

http://puu.sh/Bg0kZ/1942fe0fcf.osu
updated
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uprising
01:06:478 (1) - unsnapped...
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Strategas wrote:

uprising
01:06:478 (1) - unsnapped...
fixed ~
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from 00:12:992- 00:34:935- no hitsounding at all, atleast use whistles like the other diffs do for strong sounds like 00:15:392-
from 00:34:935- also could use more hs, by adding some claps
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updated stingy's diff ~
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Modding v1 Pog

// Uprising
- Would be cool if either of 01:12:307 (4,5,6) - 01:23:278 (4,5,6) - and/or 01:17:792 (4,5,6) - would be the same spacing as the other (preferably be the later one for easier 1/4th stuff)

// Kergio
The following few dont really need a Nc as their follow up mostly plays the same thing, but without the Nc; So unless this is some sort of very special thing to you, please consider changing them
- 00:37:335 (1) -
- 00:40:078 (1) -

// Stingy
- I really dislike the stacking patterns around 00:26:535 (1). Thing is, as long as they sit on something special (odd vocals, stop-n-go like sounds, drop) then it'd be fine to do it once in a while, but with this section specifically, you have 10-12 objects being stacked in a 9sec timeframe. In my eyes, 00:27:392 (2,3) - 00:32:021 (1,2) - seem fine, but anything else should be mapped in a normal manner. It basically comes down to "if you do too many special things, then nothing is special anymore".
- 00:40:250 (1) - Should probably map this like 00:37:507 (7,1) - (with a stack). The vocal starts kinda late and missing the downbeat is a big meh.
- 00:44:278 (5) - Another big meh that the downbeat is kinda just in the middle of the combo, and then on a Sliderend as well for me. How about https://puu.sh/BNBAd/8f81a65af7.png ?
- 00:53:964 (1) - Should probably let this start on the downbeat after it, as it spins for the sound, not the vocals (As it also stops on a beat/sound, not vocal).
- I dont feel like Sliders like 01:08:878 (1) - (every of their kind, there are a few) work due to them starting on a different thing than they end on, as well as having the downbeat on their repeat. Patterns like 01:10:250 (4,1) - work much better, could combine them with Circles or whatever as well.
- 01:42:135 (3,4,5,6) - 01:47:621 (3,4,5,6) - Why not like 01:36:650 (3,4,5,6) - ? Kinda skipping the beat on (5)'s tail

// _orange
- 00:26:192 (5) - Is really weird, starting on a minor vocal redtick after the previous Slider kinda eh'd its way onto the other vocal redtick before that. How about simplifying it to something like this? https://puu.sh/BNBKW/673b3c3ae0.png
- 00:33:221 (2) - Could replace this with a Circle. Not a fan of placing Sliders on people breathing in in Normals :v
- 01:27:907 (3) - Might also want to place a Circle here to normalize the rhythm. 6/4 is eh and there are enough things to place something on

// Easy
- I'd almost suggest to remove the Spinners and replace with Sliders as they all turn out the be pretty short in length, especially as an Easy. It's in the ok-zone, but those lengths can feel very ninja to new players.

Also, just want to point out that for some reason _orange's diff gives me a ton of unsnapped false-positives, but like, an unusual amount of them. Dont think they'd matter but I'd like to have it at least written down somewhere https://puu.sh/BNBZt/4cce6a6d95.png
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