there's still no replacement for the kudosu system, why is this being forced on mappers and modders when it is not done yet?This may be "just a design thing" but modding v2 in addition to previously mentioned issues is big and bulky.
Let's look at a
single point made on modding v2
while white space is important to differentiate different items, the extent to which this is done, as circled in red, is
absolutely excessive.
it's a waste of space.
more than
half of this image is just empty space! half!!
with so much of it, i can only see maybe 3-4 points with replies on my very large screen at a time without having to zoom out.
compare it to a mod on a map and its reply that's in v1
in which you can see and read over a dozen points at a time. everything is still clear as to what is what. it's easy to look at and see the entire thing all at once unless a modder's post is very lengthy.
v2 in comparison is a pain in the ass to read through. I can't see how long a modder's post is at a glance, I have to scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll. If i want to look for a specific point without knowing the time it was posted at, i have to scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll. It's inefficient.
- It should be possible to see only a specific modder's points at a time. It's already possible to just see posts you made yourself by clicking "mine" so this should be doable.
- fix the fucking design to waste less space.
- ability to sort mod posts either by the timestamp, or the date they were posted. Make the date posted sorting option the default to give an idea of how a map has changed over time.
- give mappers the ability to mark points as irrelevant if a difficulty has been remapped.
- there's no forum emotes on the mod v2 thread. emotes can help convey emotion!! bring them back!!
- points on previously uploaded but no longer existing difficulties should still be accessible. reasons detailed below.
- add pagination if a difficulty's mod thread has over a certain number of replies, like 20. scrolling through someone's map's thread if it has 100+ points would be hellish.
- give mapset host the ability to give other specified users the ability to resolve issues. this would address the current problem with GDers replying and unable to resolve themselves. these other users would be marked as "Guest Mapper" similar to how the host mapper is marked with a green tag.
- instead of kds per point, maybe make a mapper able to access a drop down list of those who have posted suggestions or problems in the mapset. from this menu, they could then award kudosu just like in the forum.
- when scrolling through a thread, the box for posting an issue would remain always visible at the top of the screen. this would make it easier for modders to review other points at close timestamps while reviewing their own, or just to read over the thread in general while writing their mod points. Much better than having to constantly scroll aaaalll the way down to a point, then aaalll the way back up to the box for posting a point.
- make it possible for a mapper to edit the map description! currently this can only be done by finding the beatmap's forum thread or updating the map!
that's terrible!!
Also currently, if a difficulty changes beatmap number due to being renamed, or deleted and added back between uploads,
all points made on it disappear into an abyss. They become unviewable, unfindable, and unrepliable.
Except weirdly enough, they still get counted in the number of open issues on the beatmap watch page if they were never resolved:
this pictured mapset only currently has 8 accessible open issues, but this number has been different after I
1.) added a test difficulty
2.) posted 5 comments on it
3.) deleted the difficulty, and re uploaded the set without it.
the test points I made are inaccessible.
but this number... must mean that those points must exist.. somewhere.
A mapper should be able to mark that "this old difficulty" is the same as a difficulty currently on the set through some sort of management menu to merge points from a previous difficulty name or beatmap number into a current difficulty's thread.
This is extremely important to prevent accidentally erasing all modding on a difficulty due to changing the name of it.
"you have to be careful to rename the difficulty and upload without going to osu's menu" is extremely risky and will result in a lot of headaches from accidentally erased mods, unlike modding threads where all posts remain viewable no matter what you do.
In its current form, I do not see what benefits modding v2 brings. I feel like the modding format should have been kept the same, but upon posting timestamps in a post the website would ask what type of point it is "praise, suggestion, problem, none". "None" would be for supplementary timestamps in a specific point, such as examples or comparisons. These would then be viewable on the top timeline, and posting points mentioned before would notify the modder similar to how it currently does in modding v2.
The fact that modders and mappers were still choosing to use v1 shows that v2 is being forced too soon without obvious benefits.
and now that's been taken away from us.
great.
Also, the hype train encourages circlejerk abuse by encouraging mappers to just ask a bunch of friends to praise it instead of actually getting modder feedback or shooting their well earned stars at a mapset to get it to the 12 minimum for rankability
EDIT 99:my christmas wish:
make it possible to view bookmarked threads and watched maps together on the same page.
I personally detest email notifications and always use the bookmarks page on the current website to keep up with both map threads and other threads such as modding queues I stalk.
so being able to still view these both in one place like was possible before v2 came would be nice.
EDIT 100:also
modv2 is completely fucked on the mobile page, why is there even a mobile page if the layout gets so badly messed up? it's much easier to zoom into the desktop version of the page than read this mess.
lol
EDIT 101:after some further experience in modding v2:
When a mapper responds, they mark a point as resolved.
If a modder doesnt think it's resolved, it gets reopened.
This cycle can currently continue endlessly if mapper and modder disagree.
there should be a feature that after, say, 3 resolved/reopened posts between a mapper and a modder, it would be required for a third opinion, that of a second modder, to be posted for the point to be resolved again. This would encourage further community discussion and can prevent one modder and mapper from arguing endlessly over something they disagree upon. Reopening the thread by the same initial modder would be disabled after the third time.