Shmiklak wrote:

m4m

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1. nazi suggestion. this slider 00:00:360 (1) - is really wry. move point to make it like here http://shmiklak.s-ul.eu/kV4MGebk Fixed. Nice catch XD.
2. since you did these clickable 00:04:616 (4,5) - this should be clickable too 00:04:414 - idk how will you do it, maybe you'll make slider shorter, or sth like that, but it should be clickable. Fixed XD
3. how did you make NCing? you did nc after one 1/1 beat and then you make nc after 2 beats. that's not right. you should have consistent logic. I thought I fixed them all
4. uh really ugly overlap :v 00:18:197 (1,3) - what about move 00:19:008 (3) - to 176;32? it will be blanketing with 00:18:197 (1) - and also we'll avoid this overlap. Uhh... no, it'll break the flow from 3-4. And 4 is kinda calm, I'll leave it that way.
   also pls avoid all simillar overlaps. you have much of them in your map. But that's my style orz

good luck

Time Capsule wrote:

this not a mod

simple review
you got a right sample set there but the hs not really consistent especially if you trying to follow the original beat of the song
i still offering my help for polishing (i will rehsing instead actually) base on original beat like what you actually trying to do
if you allow me to, i would also direct modding (this mean i suggest pattern and give the change details of part i change)
so the final form is hit sounded diff with my mod apply in it (tbh not much change needed for the patten) Sure, I'm not good at hitsounding :v Teach me pls xD Btw, don't mod directly. Ask me first before changing :3 たのむぞ。:3

medata
(原唱者)Original Artist:CHiCO with HoneyWorks
(作詞)Lyricist：Gom
(作曲)Composer：Gom．cake
add to tag? kek xD oke wkwk besok aja :v

take a star ~ Thx for star :3
good luck

1. 00:00:360 (volume level)
   00:14:954 (volume level) (custom set number)
   
   Ranking Criteria - Timing
   
   No two uninherited or two inherited timing sections should be placed at the same point. An inherited timing section may be placed on an uninherited timing section (but only to change the slider speed). Having two uninherited or two inherited sections on top of each other will cause problems within the beatmap.
   
   
2. hanya uneg2,hitsound clapnya (untuk drum) agak terlalu keras gitu,nggk terlalu sesuai dengan suara drum yg di musik

-NanoRIPE- wrote:

ok sesuai janjiku

[General]

1. 00:00:360 (volume level)
   00:14:954 (volume level) (custom set number)ok
   
   Ranking Criteria - Timing
   
   No two uninherited or two inherited timing sections should be placed at the same point. An inherited timing section may be placed on an uninherited timing section (but only to change the slider speed). Having two uninherited or two inherited sections on top of each other will cause problems within the beatmap.
   
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2. hanya uneg2,hitsound clapnya (untuk drum) agak terlalu keras gitu,nggk terlalu sesuai dengan suara drum yg di musik

[Hujan]
00:03:603 (3) - lurusin slidernya plis (maksud saya itu ujung slidernya nggk sejajar dengan headnya)Ngk ah, ane lbh suka yg ini.
00:04:414 (4,5,6) - nih tiga circle serangkai ini penempatannya terlalu kaku imo fixed.
00:09:076 (4) - kenapa reverse slider? gw nggk denger apa2 di 00:09:076 (atau telinga gw yg rusak ya) mungkin majukan slidernya ke 00:09:177 - dan juga jgn di reverse slidernya ada suara piano ._.
00:10:900 (3) - turunin dikit lah,terlalu deket tuh dengan (1),slider aja deket masa hati gw nggk Itu sengaja sih, tp oke lah turunin dikit. Kalo hatilu mah :V
00:11:711 (4) - nc disini? biar emphatize ke pianonya (kan juga ini marathon map) sip.
00:22:656 (4) - ctrl j? biar enak flownya ngk ane lebih suka yg ini.
00:48:197 (2,4) - overlap yg buruk bagiku oke oke XD ane rubah, soalnya ada yg ngetik ini jg.
00:53:467 (2) - blanketnya nggk sempurna,coba pindahin ke (260,140) buat blanketnya perfecto Fixed. Tapi bukan 260 140
00:54:075 (1) - nih finish gunanya apa coba? nggk pas ke rhythm oh oke. XD
01:25:089 (2) - mungkin sorong ke kanan dikit? biar kelihatan pergeraknnya antara slider (1) dan (2)? Ngk ah ane lbh suka yg ini xd
01:31:575 (2,3) - knp di deketin? Yang nomor 3 lebih pelan. Sama ditambah keinginan ane :V
01:39:886 (2,3,4,5) - nih pattern flownya terlalu edgy imo (coba di kasih variasi kalau bisa) Emng sengaja begitu, soalnya ane suka yg begini XD
01:43:737 (1) - coba hindari overlapnya (rada aneh aja sih) mungkin kasih bentuk slidernya sejajar dan sama bentuknya slider 01:43:332 (1) ok
01:52:251 (1,2) - knp di deketin? agak aneh sih soalnya dsnya nggk consistent.gimana kalau circle (2) stack dengan slider (1) yg panjang 01:53:062 (1) terus geser slider (1) yg 01:52:251 (1) ke (448,96) biar enak penempatannya (aduhh maaf ya nggk bisa kirim gambarnya soalnya pc gw udah di ujung tanduk,udah mau deket ajal nih) ane suka pattern yg ini
02:05:224 (1) - clapnya ngeganggu banget(atau whistlenya ya kwwkwk) clap.
02:21:440 (3) - knp nggk finish? soalnya cymbalnya keras disini luh ok
02:23:872 (1,2) - terlalu kaku imo :3 Sengaja XD
02:49:818 (3,1) - overlap yg buruk imo kayaknya itu gpp,
02:53:872 (1,3) - ^ ^
03:00:359 (3) - why not finish? kelewatan :V
03:19:008 (1,2,3) - terlalu dekat huehue kayaknya itu gpp, soalnya suaranya pelan.
03:27:116 (2,1) - coba di deketin dkit soalnya agak kaget rhythmnya disini gpp biar pada kaget. XD
04:03:399 (2) - lebih baik circle dulu baru slider biar nggk terlalu tiba2 slidernya kayak 04:06:643 (2,3) ngk ah, lebih demen yg ini.
04:19:008 (1,1) - nih overlap rada anu... :3 XD tp ane jg suka yg ini xd
04:40:899 sampai 04:43:737 - kenapa hanya slider yg berbalik-balik? ada vocal knp nggk emohatize ke vocal aja? kalau gitu2 terus terlalu monoton entar ane liat dulu deh. Tp sih ane lbh suka yg ini orz
04:47:386 sampai 04:53:872 - ^

itu aja
ini mod hanya opini ku doang,jangan di masukin ke hati
sorry mod gw kek sampah (nggk ada gambar,cuma tulisan doang zzzzzz) LOL

and GL !

Yahuri wrote:

we talked about hitsounding n stuff

01:59 William K: Yahuriii
01:59 William K: may I ask some help?
01:59 Yahuri: heyo
01:59 Yahuri: sure
01:59 William K: wait
02:00 William K: open your PM box in web
02:00 William K: I PM-ed you there
02:00 *William K is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/s/466996 CHiCO with Honeyworks - 11 Gatsu no Ame [Hitsounding 2]]
02:00 William K: I'm asking for hitsound opinions orz
02:00 Yahuri: o boi hitsounding
02:01 William K: yeah it's hard
02:01 Yahuri: i can just replace the original file i have already right
02:01 William K: hmm
02:02 William K: sure
02:02 Yahuri: 00:04:414 (4) - add whistle cuz strong piano
02:03 *William K is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/s/466996 CHiCO with Honeyworks - 11 Gatsu no Ame [Hitsounding 2]]
02:03 William K: you have this?
02:03 Yahuri: i replaced the file yes
02:03 William K: sure
02:03 William K: ok
02:04 William K: does it sound weird? ._.
02:05 Yahuri: the hitwhistle2 is a little questionable
02:05 William K: why?
02:05 Yahuri: well
02:06 Yahuri: its not really
02:06 William K: match the music?
02:06 Yahuri: blending with the guitar
02:06 Yahuri: yeah
02:06 William K: then I'll delete it XD
02:06 Yahuri: the clap is on point tho
02:07 William K: what'd you mean by on point?
02:07 Yahuri: fits perfectly
02:07 William K: so it's good
02:07 Yahuri: yup
02:07 William K: ok :3
02:07 William K: does my hitsounding seems good? :V
02:08 Yahuri: 00:29:345 - remove clap
02:08 William K: okay
02:09 Yahuri: 00:32:589 (4) - same
02:09 Yahuri: 00:32:994 (6) - ^
02:09 Yahuri: 00:33:197 (7) - ^
02:09 William K: 00:32:791 (5) - should I add clap here?
02:10 William K: I don't need to focus at the low sounded clap?
02:10 Yahuri: assuming youre using hitsounds to follow the music ONLY, no
02:10 William K: ohh okay :3
02:10 Yahuri: 5 is a guitar, not clap
02:11 William K: 00:36:035 (4,5) - so I must remove claps here too
02:12 Yahuri: yup
02:12 William K: 00:42:318 (4,5,6,7,8) - here too
02:13 William K: 00:42:521 (5,6) - oops clap here :3
02:13 Yahuri: 00:42:724 (6) - clap only here
02:13 Yahuri: 5 is more of a bass drum thing
02:14 Yahuri: you can add an additional hitsound for that if you want to
02:14 William K: lol isn't my clap a drum? :V
02:14 William K: XD I'm deaf lol
02:14 Yahuri: its a drum but a different type of drum lol
02:14 William K: I see XD
02:15 Yahuri: like you dont just have the synth-drum and then the clap-ish drum thing and use the same hitsound for both
02:15 Yahuri: cuz thats just wat
02:15 William K: orz lol
02:16 William K: but my hitsounding's not bad?
02:16 Yahuri: 00:41:710 (3,4,5) - also spacing here confusing
02:16 Yahuri: needs some work
02:16 Yahuri: but its not terrible
02:17 William K: lol
02:17 Yahuri: 00:55:190 - 00:55:494 - what is this Dx
02:17 William K: 00:42:318 (4,5) - I think this's fine orz
02:17 William K: triplets? XD
02:17 Yahuri: listen on 25%
02:17 Yahuri: its some weird thing
02:18 William K: yeah xd
02:18 William K: 1/12 thing
02:18 William K: but no one would here that one
02:18 William K: should I map that? XDD
02:18 Yahuri: ummm
02:18 Yahuri: if you want to? idk
02:18 Yahuri: but if you dont then add clap here 00:55:291 -
02:19 Yahuri: might work better
02:19 William K: yeah added
02:19 William K: to cover that weird one XD
02:19 Yahuri: 00:58:940 - heres a nice spot for the drum sampleset
02:20 Yahuri: 00:59:345 - maybe ^
02:20 Yahuri: 00:59:751 - yup^
02:20 William K: hmm so i should add 1 more sample?
02:20 Yahuri: no just change the sampleset
02:20 William K: ohh ok
02:20 Yahuri: the default drum has some good ones
02:21 William K: 00:59:345 - I think its not ._.
02:21 William K: 00:59:751 - yeah I hear this one
02:21 Yahuri: ok
02:22 Yahuri: 01:01:778 - add clap
02:22 Yahuri: 01:01:879 (5) - add clap....maybe lol
02:22 William K: 00:58:737 (4) -
02:23 William K: here, It would be more fitting with Drum finish or clap
02:23 Yahuri: 01:06:237 (4) - 01:06:643 (6) - drum sampleset here too
02:24 Yahuri: 00:58:940 - clap works better here
02:25 William K: ok "3
02:25 William K: :3*
02:25 Yahuri: '3'
02:25 William K: xD
02:26 William K: kay do part 2 now
02:26 Yahuri: wuts that
02:27 Yahuri: 01:07:656 - ?
02:27 William K: wat wat?
02:27 Yahuri: whats part 2
02:27 William K: 01:07:454 (2) - here's part 2
02:28 Yahuri: i have no clue what the individual clap sounds like here cuz my music player is dumb
02:28 Yahuri: but if its just that bass-ish noise you can probably switch it out for a more accurate sound
02:28 William K: LOL
02:28 Yahuri: though the current sound makes a nice addition imo
02:29 William K: :3
02:29 William K: 02:00:967 - should I put drum here
02:29 Yahuri: 01:20:426 (2) - remove clap
02:30 Yahuri: 02:00:967 (3) - its a softer clap
02:30 William K: ok :3
02:30 Yahuri: so yeah you can add it in
02:30 Yahuri: 02:01:170 (4) - add clap
02:30 Yahuri: 01:59:548 (3) - same
02:30 Yahuri: 01:56:305 (3) - ^
02:31 Yahuri: 01:57:318 (6) - ^
02:31 William K: yeah
02:31 Yahuri: 01:57:926 (8) - ^
02:31 Yahuri: do all that XD
02:31 William K: I haven't done after the kiai XD
02:31 Yahuri: well
02:31 Yahuri: check over the kiai for over-hitsounding
02:32 William K: okay :3
02:32 William K: it's over-hitsounding right XD
02:32 Yahuri: uhh
02:32 Yahuri: thats first time ive called it that
02:32 Yahuri: i dont know what else to say XD
02:33 William K: xD
02:33 Yahuri: just make sure youre not putting hitsounds where they dont make sense
02:33 William K: okay XD
02:34 William K: don't need to focus on small sounds right
02:34 Yahuri: depends on how small youre talkin bout
02:34 William K: xD
02:34 Yahuri: but the most audible are the most important
02:34 Yahuri: so make sure you catch those
02:35 Yahuri: (unless its like melody or something, dont hitsound every single note lol)
02:35 William K: 02:21:237 (3) -
02:35 William K: what about these?
02:35 Yahuri: i would hitsound the start
02:35 Yahuri: and the end
02:36 Yahuri: the reverse point doesnt have anything on it
02:36 William K: should I play with volume there
02:36 Yahuri: nah
02:36 Yahuri: intensity doesnt change that much i think
02:36 William K: 02:21:845 -
02:36 William K: this part?
02:36 William K: I mean that part XD wrong paste :V
02:37 Yahuri: wut
02:37 William K: 02 21 845
02:37 Yahuri: maybe a small change
02:38 Yahuri: 02:34:413 (1) - here you definitely want a volume change tho
02:38 William K: yeah
02:40 William K: 02:32:791 (1) - play with volume here?
02:40 Yahuri: 03:13:332 (1) - you can do a SV increase here and end here 03:16:575 -
02:40 Yahuri: not necessary 02:32:791 (1) -
02:40 William K: ohh sure
02:41 William K: what's not necessary :V
02:41 Yahuri: the volume change
02:41 Yahuri: you can add a whistle there tho
02:41 Yahuri:
02:41 William K: I didn't put volume change there :V
02:42 Yahuri: well you proposed to
02:42 William K: 02:33:602 (1) - btw should I change volume here?
02:42 William K: xD
02:42 William K: like the one I did before I re-hitsounded?
02:42 Yahuri: not necessary
02:43 Yahuri: 02:44:143 (1) - cute
02:44 William K: lol what's cute XD
02:44 Yahuri: slider
02:44 William K: lol is it cute? XD
02:44 Yahuri: i think so
02:44 William K: LOL
02:45 Yahuri: 02:59:751 - 02:59:954 - 03:00:156 - drum sampleset
02:46 Yahuri: 03:00:156 - actually maybe not here, thats more of cymbals Dx
02:46 William K: sure XD
02:50 Yahuri: 04:12:116 (2,3) - 04:12:724 - 04:12:926 - 04:13:535 - drum sampleset
02:50 William K: lol wtf you're fast
02:51 William K: 03:15:967 (5,6) - drum sampleset
02:51 Yahuri: wut
02:51 Yahuri: yes
02:51 Yahuri: 03:15:764 (4) - this works too
02:52 William K: yeah
02:52 Yahuri: 03:29:345 - same
02:53 Yahuri: 03:59:751 - 03:59:954 - same 04:00:562 - maybe?
02:54 William K: waiittt
02:54 William K: XDDD
02:54 Yahuri: 04:00:967 (2) - same 04:01:575 (3) - same 04:01:372 (2) - maybe
02:54 Yahuri: lol
02:54 William K: 03:37:251 - here works
02:54 Yahuri: uhhhh
02:55 Yahuri: not reallly
02:55 Yahuri: thats just a hihat
02:55 Yahuri: Dx
02:55 William K: but works :V
02:55 William K: nuu T_T I'm deaf
02:56 William K: I think drum here works until 03:43:332 -
02:56 Yahuri: everything technically "works" as long as it exists lmao
02:56 William K: drum here works 03:43:332 - *
02:56 Yahuri: dont you need soft-hitclap for that?
02:58 Yahuri: 04:27:318 (2,3,4) - drum sampleset
02:58 William K: that sounds different?
02:58 Yahuri: uhh
02:59 Yahuri: well that section would sound best with drum-hitwhistle (default)
02:59 Yahuri: but i dont know if you want that
02:59 William K: yeah
02:59 Yahuri: so you can add on a new set of hitsounds
03:01 Yahuri: 04:53:264 - drum samepleset
03:02 Yahuri: 04:56:305 - ^
03:02 Yahuri: lol this is exactly 5 mins
03:02 William K: yeah XD
03:02 Yahuri: gg
03:08 William K: finished
03:08 William K: gg
03:08 Yahuri: nice
03:10 William K: wanna hear? XD
03:10 Yahuri: sure
03:10 Yahuri: just update lol
03:11 William K: PM box :V
03:11 William K: oh yea I'm so dumb
03:12 Yahuri: ill just
03:12 Yahuri: play it
03:13 Yahuri: spectate
03:14 William K: waiyty
03:14 William K: btw
03:14 William K: :V
03:14 William K: re dl XD
03:14 William K: I can't spectate
03:14 Yahuri: rip
03:14 Yahuri: uhh
03:14 Yahuri: re-dl from the map on the web?
03:14 William K: yeah
03:20 William K: fine?
03:20 Yahuri: still a problem i think i mentioned before
03:20 Yahuri: lemme find it
03:21 William K: which one you mentioned?
03:21 Yahuri: wait
03:21 William K: ok
03:22 Yahuri: 02:26:710 (3,4) - this is nearly impossible to read
03:22 William K: why orz
03:22 William K: it's readable for me :V
03:22 Yahuri: the object spacing in this section is pretty much the same
03:23 William K: ah i see
03:23 William K: wait
03:23 Yahuri: soooo with how it is now, i would think that this 02:26:845 (4) - would start at 02:26:913 -
03:24 William K: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6067825h
03:24 William K: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6067825
03:24 William K: how about this
03:24 Yahuri: actually
03:24 Yahuri: uh
03:24 Yahuri: are you ok with dropping the piano here?
03:24 William K: actually?
03:25 Yahuri: 02:26:913 -
03:25 William K: actually yes for pattern
03:25 William K: but doesn't it sound odd? :V
03:26 Yahuri: maybe
03:26 William K: but okay.. I think?
03:27 Yahuri: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6067846 try this rhythm pattern
03:27 Yahuri: this way the player doesnt have to click in a weird spot
03:27 William K: stacking 3 and 4?
03:27 William K: ohh
03:27 William K: wait
03:27 Yahuri: just the rhythm pattern
03:27 Yahuri: the object stuff is urs to do XD

good luck~

Cerulean Veyron wrote:

Hello!

[- - General - -]

• - I'm not an expert in metadata tbh but over the artist's name, It probably needs to be "CHiCO with HoneyWorks" which has the w capitalized. I've seen it on a few ranked maps, so yeah.
  - Didn't find more here, well done!

[- - Rain - -]

1. 00:00:360 (1) - The two timing sections here are okay, but they have different volumes. I prefer adjusting the volume to 25% for objects to be audible. Sure, it's an accident XD, nice catch. Or else this can't be ranked.
2. 00:03:603 (3,4,5,6,1) - The spacing here is pretty different than the defaulted 0.8x distance snap you're using. The 1/2 snap division on timeline is at equal, but the spacing went way far here, compared to 00:03:197 (2,3) - . About (6) and (1) is the same thing, but I don't really mind if you're intending a small jump for density or sth. I'm actually aiming for emphasize, so I'm making it a bit jumps. But as long as it's not a big issue, I think it's fine.
3. 00:09:481 (5,6,1) - IMO, swapping the jumps from (5)&(6) to (6)&(1) would work much tense and suitable for the track change. It won't hurt trying though. Hmm... I think I like mine better. Thanks for the idea :3
4. 00:15:764 (1) - Optional objective: I probably think the structure here can possibly have a better flowing by sliders ofc, like this one for example. How about curving this slider's slide above rather than below? It'll give a very good circular guidance for the player's cursor, making it more interesting to play. There are other sliders I suggest doing the same as that. Or at least try your own way if you don't mind. I'm keeping this since 00:15:764 (1,2) - sounds very simillar. And breaking the flow for emphasis here is okay tho.
5. 00:32:589 (4,5,6,7,8) - Try putting some of these circles on the right place, by using a specific distance spacing on this polygon. How about 1.8x? Might give a little more space between them and keeps the aesthetics more polished. Ohh sure fixed.
6. 00:42:926 (7,8) - Hmm almost the same adjustment for swapping, but here. I think redoing Ctrl + G on these two circles may vary greater based on placement and structural flow. It would play / improve a lot better imo. Spacing or the jumps here won't affect much, don't worry. Actually I don't really like the "straight line movement" here, I like the up and down movement more. So I'll keep them this way, and this movement helps to emphasize 00:43:332 (9) - too.
7. 00:52:454 (2,1) - Speaking about hitsounds, how about a drum clap on circle (2) and slider (1)'s head? Might make the drums on the music track very audible along with it for greater emphasis. Sure XD
8. 00:56:305 (1) - The rhythm on the sliders here, you've skipped a good landing vocal on 00:56:508 - which hits the blue 1/4 tick. I guess reducing the slider length by slider tail, or try adding a circle and redo the rhythm composition if so. I'm trying to follow the piano here imo, so I think it's probably fine since the vocal is heard like to end, that's actually not, at the slider end.
9. 01:09:481 (1,2) - For new combo setting consistency, I think the circle should have the new combo instead of the slider, since the slider is landed on the downbeat. Sure, fixed.
10. 01:25:899 (3,4,1) - Nearly the same thing for the spacing swap, the note density went too low while the track was pretty much high enough for another 2x spacing as you've did on (3) & (4). I think emphasis here with the NC is alright, I liked the pattern though xd
11. - I can tell that there are many more further on about it. Just to keep this a little short and clear, so I wouldn't want to go nazi and try finding them all at once ;m; LOL
12. 01:52:251 (1,2) - I assume this is the only anti-space over this whole track. Might create a bit confusion so, maybe give a bit more space in-between them for a bit consistency along with the previous notes. A good way to emphasize this part imo. LOL many people modded this part ._. Even though I think it's fine. I'll make them a bit spaced then orz
13. 02:05:832 (2,3) - I probably suggest doing a Ctrl + G with these two notes adjusting on timeline. It'll equalize the emphasis and follow the track/vocal more greatly. I like my pattern more XD since I'm trying to emphasize 02:06:440 (4) - slider too, I'll keep it. XD skipping a few emphasize things are okay, for me :V
14. 02:26:710 (3) - How about a few claps on this 1/6 slider? Just filling up things for keeping objects audible on a calm song~ Oh yea, forgot to add. XD thx
15. 02:27:116 (1,2,3,4,1) - Nearly the same issue as 00:32:589 (4,5,6,7,8) -. Try to give more attention to placements in order not to place them randomly on grid. I hope I fixed it XD
16. 02:57:926 (3,4,6) - I think you may have forgotten to add some claps on this part if I'm not wrong. I think adding a clap on slider (6)'s head, slider (4)'s end, and on circle would fill the emptiness on this track. Yeah, added. XD
17. 03:00:359 (3) - This music change really does need some new combo here. Either add one, or swap it from 03:01:170 (1) - in order to keep a bit of consistency with the previous kiai setting. Sure, I prefer to add.
18. 03:02:589 (6) - The same thing for placements over the previous mods, somehow I might be suggesting this to give a little more space on the jumps and clears up visual consistency smoothly. I think number (6)'s sound is not very big, so I consider making this spaced the same as number 2-3. I'll keep this :3
19. 03:22:656 (9,10,1) - This is literally the only sudden spaced 1/4 note over this piano track. I don't see any other that are similar triples alike this one, so this is known an inconsistent patterning. I highly recommend changing that to avoid any more broken consistencies. I will erase number 10 if the other modders say so, since I think it would be odd if I pass a pretty strong drum here.
20. 04:19:008 (1) - You missed a whistle on slider head, as If I'm right. U'r right XD

Ngl but the map is good by it's aesthetics and structure. But some subjective, like spacing and rhythm compositions should be more observed imo. With that, it'll reach into it's potential level. I've pointed some things that bothered me most, and try finding the rest of it unmentioned. I hope everything's clear here ;p
Good Luck!

Lilyanna wrote:

nm from my queue

Rain :

00:01:981 (1) - remove nc Fixed
00:03:603 (3) - nc should be here instead on downbeat Fixed~
00:05:224 (1,1) - same thing for these Fixed
00:11:711 (1) - not needed nc 00:11:711 (1) - I think the NC here is needed since there's a change in volume.
00:18:197 (1,3) - this doesnt look clean avoid the overlap maybe try stack 00:19:008 (3) - with the tail of 00:18:197 (1) - Actually the overlap here isn't even visible in the gameplay and on the other side, if I stack it with number 3 end, the flow between 2 and 1 will be interrupted.
00:28:535 (2,3,4) - doesnt look aesthaticaly appealing also it gives wierd flow maybe try move 00:28:737 (3) - x220 y335 Hmm... No, actually I'm aiming for a flow breaking. I'll try changing the slider this way http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6184866
00:36:845 (6) - move to x320 y138 to avoid overlap and then fix the blanket 00:36:440 (5,6) - i wont point more overlaps try use same idea 00:36:035 (4) - I'll just move number 4 more down then, since I try to blanket this 00:36:845 (6,1) - , I don't know why I like this kind of pattern XD
01:59:548 (3,1) - blanket 01:59:548 (3,1) - Umm... Actually I'm not trying to blanket this since it may make overlaps to 02:00:764 (2,3) - or make it seems weird, I'll try asking another player here. Thx :3
02:01:981 (1,2) - make them symmetrical 02:01:981 (1,2) - I copy pasted, so I hope I fixed it.
02:19:008 (3,7) - not stacked properly Fixed.
02:49:818 (3) - try this

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04:03:399 (2) - try move to x305 y112 its optional just an idea I think I like mine better, thx for your idea :3
could work more on structure i tried to give u some ideas and a way to avoid the unclean overlaps and also nc consistency some of nc seemed random i hope i helped, nice song Good luck!~

1. 03:41:204 (2) - 03:53:670 (4,2) - dont overmap ?
   
2. 02:22:656 - 02:24:075 - maybe miss clap …… and many 02:27:318 - 04:42:724 - etc
   
3. 00:20:426 (6,7,1) - only the triplet no stack lol

Narcissu wrote:

try 192kbps mp3 http://puu.sh/rptAn/7a7bfbb570.mp3 …… dont forget need retiming for offest

and avi is 640*360 7M, i think you can try find one better …… I find it same orz I'll ask another people later

if you want use drum-hitclap, just like this http://puu.sh/rpt7Z/fc80d8787c.jpg…… its mean you can use 12 Hitsound in S:C1 OK thx XD

[Rain]

1. 03:41:204 (2) - 03:53:670 (4,2) - dont overmap ? 03:41:204 (2) - Maybe you can't hear the piano for a bit since it was covered by drum XD but I'm not going to delete it and for 4 and 2, there is sound there so I' mot going to delete those too.
   
2. 02:22:656 - 02:24:075 - maybe miss clap …… and many 02:27:318 - 04:42:724 - etc thx :3
   
3. 00:20:426 (6,7,1) - only the triplet no stack lol sure XD

a …… i should offline now

dark_assassin16 wrote:

Sorry for being late! >.<
#lateform4m

[Rain]
00:14:143 (1,2,3,4) - I feel like the jumps should be a bit more jumpy, but this is just my opinion. no, it's still pretty calm and it's the beginning of a song
00:54:278 (2) - I think you should replace this with a short stream, but if you're trying to keep it under 4*, then disregard this. Actually I just wanna to have this map not boring, you see, the second part is filled with a short stream.
00:57:521 (4) - ^
01:00:764 (2) - ^
01:13:332 - Maybe put a circle here for effect and to avoid HP drain (even though it's slow). umm... I think no since the HP drain don't touch a half of it there and it would be directly filled since there're many NCs after that part
01:16:575 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe replace these with sliders? It doesn't feel right. It sounds the same as the others imo, so I'm putting these still as jumps.
01:31:981 (1,2,3,4) - Jumpier jumps, pls. I wanna do it too but it will ruin the aesthetics of it.
01:31:981 (1,2,3,4) - ^
02:28:433 (2) - Replace this with a stream, maybe? It ruins the flow. 02:28:433 (2) - Actually, yes I'm aiming for a little flow break here, and I can't change this into a stream too. It will ruin the flow too
02:41:710 - Maybe add a circle here. No, I feel like if I add a circle there, it's overmapping.
02:42:116 (2) - I think you should break this into a different combo.
03:41:204 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I think you should do something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6209081. It sound very intense there imo and the sound is getting higher.
04:01:170 (1,2,3,4) - Jumpier jumps here, pls. No...
04:56:254 (2) - Take away the clap sound. It doesn't match the music. No, there's a sound there. Just hear it when the hitsound is off, there is.

That's all!

- Yoshimaro - wrote:

m4m h e h

Rain

00:48:197 (2,4,5) - make the space between these equidistant? 00:48:197 (2,4) - looks a bit close Sure.
01:57:926 (8,1) - make parallel? Fixed
02:46:981 (2,1) - personally felt that 1.96 ~ 2.0 was perfect emphasis and that 01:19:818 (1) - was a bit underwhelming Actually I find the first kiai is less intense than the second one, so I put that with a smaller spacing.
03:49:008 (1) - deserves its own emphasis, new vocal verse and stressed syllable as well as percussion... 03:51:440 (1) - this was better No, different pattern.
03:55:494 (1) - underemphasized It's emphasized with NC-ing
03:59:954 (1) - ^ ^
04:40:899 (1) - ^ Actually I love this kind of pattern. And I think emphasizing here would break the flow... (And actually I don't follow emphasis 100%, I ignore some.)

map looks pretty and functions pretty well, just felt a couple things especially later in the map were underwhelming. have a star

pp [Rain] umbrellas c: gl ranking

1. Bg image could be improved to 1366x768
2. You cannot have different volumes/samples on red and green timelines that are the same
   
   

1. Sigh, new timing points below if you dont know how to apply them message me ig
   
   APPLY THIS BEFORE YOU APPLY THE MOD BELOW!!!
   
   Timing Points

   [TimingPoints]
   252,810.810810810811,4,2,1,25,1,0
   380,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,25,0,0
   11711,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,30,0,0
   12116,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,25,0,0
   12522,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,20,0,0
   12927,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,10,0,0
   13332,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,5,0,0
   14055,810.810810810811,4,2,1,25,1,0
   14144,-99.9999999996998,4,2,1,40,0,0
   14821,810.810810810811,4,2,1,25,1,0
   16575,-100,4,2,2,35,0,0
   16778,-100,4,2,2,55,0,0
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   24278,-100,4,2,2,55,0,0
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   25494,-100,4,2,2,25,0,0
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   29751,-100,4,2,2,55,0,0
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   79008,-100,4,2,1,95,0,0
   79818,-90.9090909090909,4,2,2,60,0,1
   103739,-100,4,2,2,75,0,1
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   295495,-111.111111111111,4,2,2,55,0,0
   297117,-125,4,2,1,45,0,0

1. Check!

1. 00:00:252 - tbh with you i strongyl suggest you use a different sample for this the annoying clicks that are heard at the end of each slider/note. Look for some soft hitsounds that are barely heard
2. 00:03:495 (1) - you used a curvy slider at the beginning then a sharp one, why not make this curvy too? aesthetics dud
3. 00:09:120 - theres a really strong sound you are missing here on the grey tick, technically this could work and sound ok, you have to take a closer listen to your song at not only 100% speed but at 25% as well to catch all the sounds that tend to stand out, ie like that one i just showed you
4. 00:13:833 (1) - remove this note, it plays awfully and it doesnt really add any intesity to it either. Id consder adding a slider or something if you want to catch that ticky sound
5. 00:18:064 (1,3) - careful on overlaps like these too, this falls under note placement if you arent careful enough then in gameplay it will look really messy also, try using the grid to its full potential, since then it makes the map more spread out and you arent mapping in the one spot constantly. So just to point something out the overlap i pointed out is pretty bad, but 00:19:280 (4,5) - this on the other hand looks really neat since its not 2 sliderstarts that are overlaping its a sliderend and a bit of a slider which makes it look actually not messy at all
6. 00:30:834 (9,3) - here's one more bad overlap you should avoid, either stick to using these, or these (personal favourite) consistently to achieve a nice effect
7. 00:32:658 (5) - nc this since its a lead in into another section and since the ds is bigger it would highlight that very well, this is another technique that i like using, so when a new section appears (i.e. when new sounds come into play or when they change just slightly to be noticed, thats a section change) i try to make it somewhat more increasingly more/less difficult depending on the sounds that are present, which in return gives a really nice emphasis leading into the nice section.
8. 00:33:469 (9) - ctrl+g this since all the jumps are going forward back forward back, this break it and makes it unatural to play, so heres the picture of what i mean - Look at the green lines, here you are forcing to make the player make a unatural move from going in a star pattern to suddenly making a triangle jump which is really unatural and awkward to play, yet if you ctrl+g it, it becomes more natural since its still the same angle the jumps are traveling at, be careful with that too since that can cause a lot of unecessary flow issues for no reason.
9. 00:40:766 (1,3) - fix your blanket boi
10. 00:50:496 (1) - i have to say that this section till here 01:06:712 (1) - looks fab, keep it up!
11. 01:40:158 (4) - guitar sound careful dont underemphasize it!!
12. 01:51:307 (1) - be really careful with your use of nc's, since what you are doing right now is really weird and offputting. Keep in mind that you should just place nc's every big white tick (usually reffered to as the downbeat) for the best and most accurate effect, also theres no reason to emphasize the note with a nc since theres really nothing that much being changed its still the same sounds with a bit of a cello.
13. 01:52:929 (3) - ^
14. 01:54:348 (2,3) - dont use the same thing for such lower sounds, so you use this 01:53:739 (1) - to emphasize the really strong sounds that are given off, yet these 2 sliders dont have the same sounds, strongly suggest you change to circles here tbh
15. 02:14:314 (4) - this kickslider doesnt go with anything, change it since theres nothing on the yellow tick
16. 02:24:145 (2) - you could move this just slightly right to avoid the after circle hit outlines easily
17. 02:33:165 (2,3,4) - whats the point of changing the stream now? its been curvy till then keep it consistant, breaking consistency like this is kinda odd
18. 02:34:685 - except of ending the slider at the vocals start a new one, or a jumping pattern since the vocals are to strong to be wasted like this
19. 02:42:388 (1) - 10x stronger sound yet has same spacing as 02:42:996 (4) - be careful dud, this is really sounding/looking bad if you do this since your not correctly emphasizing things
20. 02:43:199 (1) -^
21. 02:45:631 (1) - again ^ same things just look over your spacing carefully to make sure you fix all of these, dont like mentioning a lot of stuff constantly
22. 03:41:983 (1,2,3,4) - you could make this stream look nicer by placing a circle somewhere on the timeline and just blanketing the stream round it tbh, adds style points
23. 03:49:685 (1) - could make the red point in the middle for nicer look too, current looks eh
24. 03:56:983 (1) - ^
25. 04:14:010 (1) - this ends on the white tick
26. 04:14:821 (1) - Your spacing usage is really questionable in this kiai, so like here 04:18:672 (4) - you use really low spacing compared to this 04:17:861 (2) - , yet (4) is actually stronger xd. Theres more of these just listen closely to all sounds
27. 04:49:685 (3,1) - fugly overlap x)
28. The end of the song isnt 5min XD, its like 4:59.9 something, since at the beginning it starts at 00:00:250 - , and last note appears at 05:00:226 - so you can do the milisecond maths yourself xd

C00L wrote:

Right
Check! - Means it's been checked and nothing wrong has been found
Please ignore my note/slider placement on the timeline, i do that to show make my point more clearer
Red - Indicates that an unrankable issue has been found

[General]

1. Bg image could be improved to 1366x768
2. You cannot have different volumes/samples on red and green timelines that are the same
   
   

[Timing]

1. Sigh, new timing points below if you dont know how to apply them message me ig
   
   APPLY THIS BEFORE YOU APPLY THE MOD BELOW!!!
   
   Timing Points

   [TimingPoints]
   252,810.810810810811,4,2,1,25,1,0
   380,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,25,0,0
   11711,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,30,0,0
   12116,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,25,0,0
   12522,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,20,0,0
   12927,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,10,0,0
   13332,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,5,0,0
   14055,810.810810810811,4,2,1,25,1,0
   14144,-99.9999999996998,4,2,1,40,0,0
   14821,810.810810810811,4,2,1,25,1,0
   16575,-100,4,2,2,35,0,0
   16778,-100,4,2,2,55,0,0
   23872,-100,4,2,2,45,0,0
   24278,-100,4,2,2,55,0,0
   24683,-100,4,2,2,35,0,0
   25494,-100,4,2,2,25,0,0
   26305,-100,4,2,2,35,0,0
   27724,-100,4,2,2,25,0,0
   27926,-100,4,2,2,55,0,0
   29548,-100,4,2,2,45,0,0
   29751,-100,4,2,2,55,0,0
   33197,-100,4,2,2,35,0,0
   33399,-100,4,2,2,45,0,0
   33602,-100,4,2,2,55,0,0
   52656,-100,4,2,2,35,0,0
   52859,-100,4,2,2,55,0,0
   53264,-100,4,2,2,55,0,0
   53467,-100,4,2,1,55,0,0
   53873,-111.111111111111,4,2,2,50,0,0
   66846,-153.846153846153,4,2,1,35,0,0
   74549,-117.647058823529,4,2,1,50,0,0
   79008,-100,4,2,1,95,0,0
   79818,-90.9090909090909,4,2,2,60,0,1
   103739,-100,4,2,2,75,0,1
   105764,-100,4,2,2,45,0,0
   107386,-100,4,2,2,35,0,0
   109008,-100,4,2,2,25,0,0
   110629,-100,4,2,1,35,0,0
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   120967,-100,4,2,2,25,0,0
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   166576,-100,4,2,1,55,0,0
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   293872,-100,4,2,1,65,0,0
   295495,-111.111111111111,4,2,2,55,0,0
   297117,-125,4,2,1,45,0,0

Thanks for the timing check, but I prefer using 240 as the offset :3 since I think 252 is too late.

[Hitsounds]

1. Check!

[Rain]

1. 00:00:252 - tbh with you i strongyl suggest you use a different sample for this the annoying clicks that are heard at the end of each slider/note. Look for some soft hitsounds that are barely heard I hitsounded this with the help of default, so I think it's okay. Maybe it's your skin.
2. 00:03:495 (1) - you used a curvy slider at the beginning then a sharp one, why not make this curvy too? aesthetics dud Sure.
3. 00:09:120 - theres a really strong sound you are missing here on the grey tick, technically this could work and sound ok, you have to take a closer listen to your song at not only 100% speed but at 25% as well to catch all the sounds that tend to stand out, ie like that one i just showed you lol, people won't notice that one, and it's covered by the slider end. So I think it's not a big deal.
4. 00:13:833 (1) - remove this note, it plays awfully and it doesnt really add any intesity to it either. Id consder adding a slider or something if you want to catch that ticky sound No, I don't think it's awful.
5. 00:18:064 (1,3) - careful on overlaps like these too, this falls under note placement if you arent careful enough then in gameplay it will look really messy also, try using the grid to its full potential, since then it makes the map more spread out and you arent mapping in the one spot constantly. So just to point something out the overlap i pointed out is pretty bad, but 00:19:280 (4,5) - this on the other hand looks really neat since its not 2 sliderstarts that are overlaping its a sliderend and a bit of a slider which makes it look actually not messy at all People keep complaining about this overlaps orz, I changed it so they're not overlapping, 00:19:293 (4) - but I changed the one here instead.
6. 00:30:834 (9,3) - here's one more bad overlap you should avoid, either stick to using these, or these (personal favourite) consistently to achieve a nice effect Made a triangle with 00:30:847 (9,2,3) - . But I don't think it's visible in game mode lol. I made this 00:31:050 (1) - far from 9 to emphasize better.
7. 00:32:658 (5) - nc this since its a lead in into another section and since the ds is bigger it would highlight that very well, this is another technique that i like using, so when a new section appears (i.e. when new sounds come into play or when they change just slightly to be noticed, thats a section change) i try to make it somewhat more increasingly more/less difficult depending on the sounds that are present, which in return gives a really nice emphasis leading into the nice section.Sure.
8. 00:33:469 (9) - ctrl+g this since all the jumps are going forward back forward back, this break it and makes it unatural to play, so heres the picture of what i mean - Look at the green lines, here you are forcing to make the player make a unatural move from going in a star pattern to suddenly making a triangle jump which is really unatural and awkward to play, yet if you ctrl+g it, it becomes more natural since its still the same angle the jumps are traveling at, be careful with that too since that can cause a lot of unecessary flow issues for no reason. No, there's actually a reason for it. The sound there is pretty strong, drums. And because I want to blanket it with 00:32:469 (4) - , I must place it there. And I think CTRL+G-ing 00:33:482 (5) - would break the flow much and make it awkward to play.
9. 00:40:766 (1,3) - fix your blanket boi okay.
10. 00:50:496 (1) - i have to say that this section till here 01:06:712 (1) - looks fab, keep it up! Thanks :3
11. 01:40:158 (4) - guitar sound careful dont underemphasize it!! I'm staying consistent with the other pattern like 03:08:752 (2,3) -
12. 01:51:307 (1) - be really careful with your use of nc's, since what you are doing right now is really weird and offputting. Keep in mind that you should just place nc's every big white tick (usually reffered to as the downbeat) for the best and most accurate effect, also theres no reason to emphasize the note with a nc since theres really nothing that much being changed its still the same sounds with a bit of a cello. Removed NC.
13. 01:52:929 (3) - ^ 01:52:942 (1) - But not with this one, it helps people reading that it is a 1/1 gap.
14. 01:54:348 (2,3) - dont use the same thing for such lower sounds, so you use this 01:53:739 (1) - to emphasize the really strong sounds that are given off, yet these 2 sliders dont have the same sounds, strongly suggest you change to circles here tbh No... It looks pretty imo.
15. 02:14:314 (4) - this kickslider doesnt go with anything, change it since theres nothing on the yellow tick There is. Following piano here or something.
16. 02:24:145 (2) - you could move this just slightly right to avoid the after circle hit outlines easily Sure.
17. 02:33:165 (2,3,4) - whats the point of changing the stream now? its been curvy till then keep it consistant, breaking consistency like this is kinda odd Changed
18. 02:34:685 - except of ending the slider at the vocals start a new one, or a jumping pattern since the vocals are to strong to be wasted like this Will ask another mapper later.
19. 02:42:388 (1) - 10x stronger sound yet has same spacing as 02:42:996 (4) - be careful dud, this is really sounding/looking bad if you do this since your not correctly emphasizing things Following aesthetics here.
20. 02:43:199 (1) -^
21. 02:45:631 (1) - again ^ same things just look over your spacing carefully to make sure you fix all of these, dont like mentioning a lot of stuff constantly
22. 03:41:983 (1,2,3,4) - you could make this stream look nicer by placing a circle somewhere on the timeline and just blanketing the stream round it tbh, adds style points https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6242600 It's blanketed.
23. 03:49:685 (1) - could make the red point in the middle for nicer look too, current looks eh Like mine better
24. 03:56:983 (1) - ^
25. 04:14:010 (1) - this ends on the white tick Don't hear any sound after that, so I'm still putting it as 1/2.
26. 04:14:821 (1) - Your spacing usage is really questionable in this kiai, so like here 04:18:672 (4) - you use really low spacing compared to this 04:17:861 (2) - , yet (4) is actually stronger xd. Theres more of these just listen closely to all sounds Patterning XD I reduced the spacing at 2 for consistency with the others like 04:31:658 (4,6,2) -
27. 04:49:685 (3,1) - fugly overlap x)
28. The end of the song isnt 5min XD, its like 4:59.9 something, since at the beginning it starts at 00:00:250 - , and last note appears at 05:00:226 - so you can do the milisecond maths yourself xd It's fine, mine is like monstrata's map at Monsoon Rain what is it... named?

[Final Words]
I mean.. its okay? theres some really questionable pattern/NC usage, same with ds usage but i mean youll get used to it sometime. Just make sure that you listen to the song really carefully and dont put random kicksliders or notes x)
Good Luck!

C00L wrote:

Your reasoning is really really bad for nearly all things that you denied...
You basically just done the visual stuff only since youre to laze to fix the stuff that you think are time consuming, thats just... wow
Yes being a bit salty here since most of reasoning for not mapping to some stronger sounds was because you follow aesthetics?? What?? mapping to sounds is much more reliable than some patterns zzz

In the end its your map so i mean its a coin flip to me what you do with it, but i would really insist that you check my mod again with not thinking about replying asap, but with the the intention to make your map better, since that was what my mod was for. Check it with "another mapper" if you wish but make sure hes experienced and not your friend soneone random thats good, and i can guarantee you that hell agree with most of my points in my mod about your map

Pentori wrote:

hi

[Rain]
00:03:483 - 00:04:294 - you have whistles on accent piano notes so what about these? Oh sure.
00:08:956 (4,5) - these are a bit off in terms of timing. u should try time this correctly with red timing points I fixed those, I hope. I'm not good at timing though XD, I made 00:08:986 (1) - a straight non_reversed slider.
00:11:692 (1) - why end the spinner so early when the sound keeps going? since the bpm is so low there's a decent amount of recovery time from 00:13:618 - so u can end the spinner here I ended the spinner at 00:13:819 - since I hear sort of sound like it's changing to a higher sound.
00:18:077 - theres no clap here okay.
00:18:077 (1,3) - this overlap is pretty nasty, try move 00:18:888 (3) - up so slider head and border dont overlap Sure.
00:45:847 - 00:46:252 - these aren't actually claps in the music so they feel really out of place. its ok to add additional hitsounds over the music, but it becomes worrying when it doesn't really make sense and isnt consistent. like at 00:49:090 - 00:49:496 - these have the same sounds as 00:45:847 - 00:46:252 - but you didn't hitsound them. Hitsounded.
00:52:942 (1) - this combo is really short, i dont see why you need it True, fixed.
01:14:834 (1) - i dont feel the jumps suit the calm entrance to the kiai. the climax is at 01:19:698 (1) - yet this plays easier than 01:14:834 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - so maybe try introduce sliders instead for less density Fixed.
01:18:888 - such a powerful vocal why not make this clickable? I'm following a holding sound there, I'm starting to follow vocals at 01:19:090 - , so I'll wait for another modder to say this :3
01:21:320 (1,2) - again, youve hitsounded the claps here but didnt do this elsewhere 01:24:563 (1,2) Fixed, will recheck later.
01:22:942 - ^ clap here but there isn't one on 01:26:185 - also i'd suggest removing these claps - if you listen to the song with hitsounds disabled you'll notice the claps are every 2nd and 4th beat and hitsounding the 1st beat with a clap disrupts that consistency Sure.
01:52:942 (1) - nc isn't really necessary I think it's necessary to keep players focus that there's a 1/1 gap between those two.
01:59:428 (3,1) - overlap is yuck lol it's not visible in gameplay so no worries.
02:00:239 (1) - nc's in this section are kinda inconsistent. why have you nc'ed this when you dont have an nc on 01:56:996 (5) - ? Yeah, they used the same rhythm but yet the NC is not consistent. Removed NC.
02:09:969 (1) - pretty random drum clap since you didnt use this hitsound before Removed.
02:16:455 - no clap Yeah, removed

ok gonna stop halfway cos i dont want to keep repeating myself. try work on nc's and hitsounds so they're consistent and correctly complement the music Will do :3

good luck!

1. Who's doing your timing? this song is pretty much constant on 74 bpm, you just need some red timing to reset the metronome.
   
   Based on your timing, the offset 240 pretty much accurate to me but this red timing here 00:08:986 - , 00:09:563 - , 00:14:459 - , and 00:14:643 - not really needed so I very sugest you delete those timing point, as they will make these notes 00:08:986 (4) - and 00:14:037 (1,2,3,4) - hard to click because it doesn't any new red timing and will ruin the gameplay.
   
   But you do need some actual red timing to reset the metronome here 00:14:023 - and here 00:14:833 - . So the overall timing should be looks like this
   
   SPOILER

   

1. 00:08:986 (4) - If you try to highlight or follow the piano sound, then you should use this rhythm instead http://puu.sh/s74Vq/279da5c96b.jpg, literally there is no beat to emphsize on here 00:08:986 - if you really follow the piano.
2. 00:11:691 (1) - I'd sugest to make the spinner end on here instead 00:13:617 - before we play the new section on jumps sequences here 00:14:037 (1,2,3,4,1) -
3. 00:18:077 (1,3) - That kinda of overlap not really neat for the gameplay, I'd say it will better if you move (3) a little farther like this http://puu.sh/s7548/dadd992d09.jpg or you can take example on 00:20:915 (9,1) - for a better gameplay. As far as I see there's several overlap like that, I think you should reconsider on making them looks neater.
4. 00:22:942 (5,7) - Same as above
5. 00:26:185 (3,4) - Based on the song, there is nothing to emphsize on this one 00:26:590 (4) - there's no vocal or instrument on that part, literally just a long sound of guitar sound. So you can replace both sliders with a single slider like http://puu.sh/s75dA/64e836381c.jpg to make your rhythm more make sense to play.
6. 00:39:563 (6,7) - You can move both slider to x:295 y:248 to improve the gameplay http://puu.sh/s75hQ/40b133102b.jpg
7. 00:59:834 (9) - You can do ctrl+j there to improve the flow on 00:59:428 (8,9,10,1) - into something like this http://puu.sh/s75n8/e942faa767.jpg they are neater than the current one.
8. 01:07:739 (3) - Due to music that long slider doesn't seems fit imo. I think you should try to follow the vocal here, so try this rhythm instead http://puu.sh/s75ui/d7ad9bacbc.jpg it can cover both vocal and piano sound better.
9. 01:53:752 (1,2) - What are you try to follow? imo that rhythm doesn't fit the music, try this rhythm instead http://puu.sh/s75zZ/34d59b259f.jpg. Because there is nothing to emphsize on these blue tick 01:53:955 - and 01:54:361 - .
10. 02:03:482 (4) - Delete clap on head, the clap should be on 02:03:685 - (the tail)
11. 04:43:414 (4) - That one can be moved above to prevent overlap, try move that to x:272 y:20 http://puu.sh/s75To/ef42dc5625.jpg.
12. 04:56:135 (2) - Better be replaced with a circle on the big tick here 04:56:185 - . Literally that 1/16 doesn't make sense player tend to misclicked that lol.

Mako Sakata wrote:

Hello
Sugestion,

General

1. Who's doing your timing? this song is pretty much constant on 74 bpm, you just need some red timing to reset the metronome. Lol it's me myself xD
   
   Based on your timing, the offset 240 pretty much accurate to me but this red timing here 00:08:986 - , 00:09:563 - , 00:14:459 - , and 00:14:643 - not really needed so I very sugest you delete those timing point, as they will make these notes 00:08:986 (4) - and 00:14:037 (1,2,3,4) - hard to click because it doesn't any new red timing and will ruin the gameplay. I deleted the one with the 96 BPM, I discussed it with one of my friend and said it's more acceptable with 74 BPM. But I'll keep 00:14:037 (1,2,3,4) - these stay as it is. Since it's more fitting if I use double timings here. And in case of hard pressing, you could still get perfect scores at 00:14:037 (1,2,3,4) - even if you press them with the same beat.
   
   But you do need some actual red timing to reset the metronome here 00:14:023 - and here 00:14:833 - . So the overall timing should be looks like this
   
   SPOILER

   
   
   Yeah it's true

Rain

1. 00:08:986 (4) - If you try to highlight or follow the piano sound, then you should use this rhythm instead http://puu.sh/s74Vq/279da5c96b.jpg, literally there is no beat to emphsize on here 00:08:986 - if you really follow the piano. I'm not sure, there's a pretty soft piano sound at 00:08:956 - , even if it's lower in volume compared to the other piano sounds, I want to map it to have consistency to follow all piano sounds at the intro.
2. 00:11:691 (1) - I'd sugest to make the spinner end on here instead 00:13:617 - before we play the new section on jumps sequences here 00:14:037 (1,2,3,4,1) - Sure, I agree.
3. 00:18:077 (1,3) - That kinda of overlap not really neat for the gameplay, I'd say it will better if you move (3) a little farther like this http://puu.sh/s7548/dadd992d09.jpg or you can take example on 00:20:915 (9,1) - for a better gameplay. As far as I see there's several overlap like that, I think you should reconsider on making them looks neater. Many people complaint about this thing xD changed.
4. 00:22:942 (5,7) - Same as above Fixed.
5. 00:26:185 (3,4) - Based on the song, there is nothing to emphsize on this one 00:26:590 (4) - there's no vocal or instrument on that part, literally just a long sound of guitar sound. So you can replace both sliders with a single slider like http://puu.sh/s75dA/64e836381c.jpg to make your rhythm more make sense to play. There's a sound at 00:26:590 - . Since it's very small to hear, I made a slider there to show that it's a small sound.
6. 00:39:563 (6,7) - You can move both slider to x:295 y:248 to improve the gameplay http://puu.sh/s75hQ/40b133102b.jpg Sure.
7. 00:59:834 (9) - You can do ctrl+j there to improve the flow on 00:59:428 (8,9,10,1) - into something like this http://puu.sh/s75n8/e942faa767.jpg they are neater than the current one. I like my pattern more, and I think they flew nicely.
8. 01:07:739 (3) - Due to music that long slider doesn't seems fit imo. I think you should try to follow the vocal here, so try this rhythm instead http://puu.sh/s75ui/d7ad9bacbc.jpg it can cover both vocal and piano sound better.Sure. Did the same with the second one too.
9. 01:53:752 (1,2) - What are you try to follow? imo that rhythm doesn't fit the music, try this rhythm instead http://puu.sh/s75zZ/34d59b259f.jpg. Because there is nothing to emphsize on these blue tick 01:53:955 - and 01:54:361 - . I'm trying to follow the drums here. And there's a drum at the blue tick.
10. 02:03:482 (4) - Delete clap on head, the clap should be on 02:03:685 - (the tail) Fixed.
11. 04:43:414 (4) - That one can be moved above to prevent overlap, try move that to x:272 y:20 http://puu.sh/s75To/ef42dc5625.jpg. Moved to 310,32 instead.
12. 04:56:135 (2) - Better be replaced with a circle on the big tick here 04:56:185 - . Literally that 1/16 doesn't make sense player tend to misclicked that lol.Lol sure.

Good luck!

_Meep_ wrote:

ze mods by ze meep

First off,-Nitrous' profile link in the description is broken lele Yeah lol fixed.

00:01:861 (3) - NC this,because it would feel inconsistent that you NCed 00:03:483 (1) - but not the previous one. No, I NC-ed 00:03:483 (1) - cuz' of the downbeat.
00:08:956 (4) - There are clearly 3 sounds on each tick here, I'm against this slider considering the fact that 00:08:956 (4,6) - are the same shape,even though 00:09:564 (6) - plays a different sound than 00:08:956 (4) - ,I'd rather you switch it to a triple or a single reverse slider. Pretty confused about this lately, since the timings felt off, and the second sound feels doesn't fit with 1/8. But I'll try making this a 1/8 reversed slider first.
00:42:401 (5) - NC No...
00:43:009 (8) - Remove this note,there is no sound. Vocals...
00:52:131 (5) - NC No.
01:05:104 (8) - NC No.
01:07:131 - From here,I'd like the change of rhythm to be like

As there are vocals to be mapped such as 01:07:536 - Leaving it as it is, they followed the vocals fine.
01:09:158 - From here,I'd also like a change of rhythm like

Same reason. ^
01:18:888 - Theres a vocal to be mapped here,why is it on a sliderend? Sounds bad and plays bad imo Fixed.
01:24:563 (6) - NC No
01:31:050 (5) - NC No.
01:38:347 (9) - NC this for emphasis. I think I emphasized it finely, with 1.70x spacing, since most of the emphasis for drums are 1.70x
02:09:969 (5) - NC No.
02:13:212 (6) - NC No.
02:14:225 - Mute this sldierend,sounds bad with doublesound I think it's fine as it is, there're 3 sounds there.
02:19:698 (5) - NC No.
02:20:408 (8) - Plays really weird because of the pause,just use a double I want to keep this part relaxing same with the other parts, and it would keep the consistency between 02:20:408 (8,9,10) -
02:33:077 - Why the hell is the sliderend playing the drums as well .-. Please just stick to your 5 note bursts and repeat sliders. It's repeat sliders? And I think the slider end as drums is okay, since I did it at 02:31:050 (1) - too. Will find more mods here.
02:34:293 - From here to 02:38:752 - ,Please check on your rhythm and map more closely to the vocals. Some examples can be found above as I posted. Sorry, but I think the rhythm is good enough for me, to the vocals and instruments.
02:52:131 (5) - NC No.
02:58:415 (4) - NC No.
02:59:428 (5) - NC No.
03:00:239 (7) - NC No.
03:01:050 (1) - Remove NC Removed.
03:01:861 (5) - NC No.
03:03:482 (7) - NC No.
03:03:888 (1) - Remove NC No for this, 1 is the part of another pattern. And the approach line would be kinda annoying for the aesthetics imo.
03:05:104 (5) - NC No.
03:08:347 (6) - NC No.
03:11:590 (6) - NC No.
03:18:077 (7) - NC <-- From this point,you should see most of the NCs are here because of your high combos,please try to refrain going above 8 or 9,there are pretty good places to NC,but you just decided to leave them alone. Please fix this as your map has millions of this XD Lols yeah you mentioned a lot of NCs, but since every 2/1 NC is not needed at this map (I NC-ed it last time and someone told me that's it's a spam) So I'm not going to NC every 2/1 beats. Sorry.
03:21:320 (7) - NC No.
03:25:374 - Drum sound on a sliderend,wut,pls make it a note or something clickable I'm following the piano here.
03:24:563 (6) - NC No.
03:34:293 (7) - NC No.
03:37:536 (6) - NC No.
03:57:604 (6,7) - Use a different rhythm please,sliders on these red ticks sound bad. It's not to the piano.
04:16:455 (6) - NC,I think I'll stop the NCing here,you should be able to get the gist of it by now. Add em in your map No.
02:41:590 - Back to this,add a break time after you delete these two notes 02:41:996 (2,3) - ,it sounds alot better. I'm going for a drain in HP here, and I'll not delete 02:41:996 (2,3) - since they're important.
01:12:763 - Add a break at this part too ^

fix lots of stuff,NC is pretty inconsistent and it's very long most of the time.
Note placements are fine to me
Rhythm choices are a bit weird since there are alot of sliders.
GL

William K wrote:

_Meep_ wrote:

ze mods by ze meep

First off,-Nitrous' profile link in the description is broken lele Yeah lol fixed.

00:01:861 (3) - NC this,because it would feel inconsistent that you NCed 00:03:483 (1) - but not the previous one. No, I NC-ed 00:03:483 (1) - cuz' of the downbeat.
00:08:956 (4) - There are clearly 3 sounds on each tick here, I'm against this slider considering the fact that 00:08:956 (4,6) - are the same shape,even though 00:09:564 (6) - plays a different sound than 00:08:956 (4) - ,I'd rather you switch it to a triple or a single reverse slider. Pretty confused about this lately, since the timings felt off, and the second sound feels doesn't fit with 1/8. But I'll try making this a 1/8 reversed slider first.
00:42:401 (5) - NC No...
00:43:009 (8) - Remove this note,there is no sound. Vocals...
00:52:131 (5) - NC No.
01:05:104 (8) - NC No.
01:07:131 - From here,I'd like the change of rhythm to be like

As there are vocals to be mapped such as 01:07:536 - Leaving it as it is, they followed the vocals fine.
01:09:158 - From here,I'd also like a change of rhythm like

Same reason. ^
01:18:888 - Theres a vocal to be mapped here,why is it on a sliderend? Sounds bad and plays bad imo Fixed.
01:24:563 (6) - NC No
01:31:050 (5) - NC No.
01:38:347 (9) - NC this for emphasis. I think I emphasized it finely, with 1.70x spacing, since most of the emphasis for drums are 1.70x
02:09:969 (5) - NC No.
02:13:212 (6) - NC No.
02:14:225 - Mute this sldierend,sounds bad with doublesound I think it's fine as it is, there're 3 sounds there.
02:19:698 (5) - NC No.
02:20:408 (8) - Plays really weird because of the pause,just use a double I want to keep this part relaxing same with the other parts, and it would keep the consistency between 02:20:408 (8,9,10) -
02:33:077 - Why the hell is the sliderend playing the drums as well .-. Please just stick to your 5 note bursts and repeat sliders. It's repeat sliders? And I think the slider end as drums is okay, since I did it at 02:31:050 (1) - too. Will find more mods here.
02:34:293 - From here to 02:38:752 - ,Please check on your rhythm and map more closely to the vocals. Some examples can be found above as I posted. Sorry, but I think the rhythm is good enough for me, to the vocals and instruments.
02:52:131 (5) - NC No.
02:58:415 (4) - NC No.
02:59:428 (5) - NC No.
03:00:239 (7) - NC No.
03:01:050 (1) - Remove NC Removed.
03:01:861 (5) - NC No.
03:03:482 (7) - NC No.
03:03:888 (1) - Remove NC No for this, 1 is the part of another pattern. And the approach line would be kinda annoying for the aesthetics imo.
03:05:104 (5) - NC No.
03:08:347 (6) - NC No.
03:11:590 (6) - NC No.
03:18:077 (7) - NC <-- From this point,you should see most of the NCs are here because of your high combos,please try to refrain going above 8 or 9,there are pretty good places to NC,but you just decided to leave them alone. Please fix this as your map has millions of this XD Lols yeah you mentioned a lot of NCs, but since every 2/1 NC is not needed at this map (I NC-ed it last time and someone told me that's it's a spam) So I'm not going to NC every 2/1 beats. Sorry.
03:21:320 (7) - NC No.
03:25:374 - Drum sound on a sliderend,wut,pls make it a note or something clickable I'm following the piano here.
03:24:563 (6) - NC No.
03:34:293 (7) - NC No.
03:37:536 (6) - NC No.
03:57:604 (6,7) - Use a different rhythm please,sliders on these red ticks sound bad. It's not to the piano.
04:16:455 (6) - NC,I think I'll stop the NCing here,you should be able to get the gist of it by now. Add em in your map No.
02:41:590 - Back to this,add a break time after you delete these two notes 02:41:996 (2,3) - ,it sounds alot better. I'm going for a drain in HP here, and I'll not delete 02:41:996 (2,3) - since they're important.
01:12:763 - Add a break at this part too ^

fix lots of stuff,NC is pretty inconsistent and it's very long most of the time.
Note placements are fine to me
Rhythm choices are a bit weird since there are alot of sliders.
GL

Thanks for Modding :3 Sorry for all the reds orz.