dark_assassin16 wrote:

Sorry for being late! >.<
#lateform4m

[Rain]
00:14:143 (1,2,3,4) - I feel like the jumps should be a bit more jumpy, but this is just my opinion. no, it's still pretty calm and it's the beginning of a song
00:54:278 (2) - I think you should replace this with a short stream, but if you're trying to keep it under 4*, then disregard this. Actually I just wanna to have this map not boring, you see, the second part is filled with a short stream.
00:57:521 (4) - ^
01:00:764 (2) - ^
01:13:332 - Maybe put a circle here for effect and to avoid HP drain (even though it's slow). umm... I think no since the HP drain don't touch a half of it there and it would be directly filled since there're many NCs after that part
01:16:575 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe replace these with sliders? It doesn't feel right. It sounds the same as the others imo, so I'm putting these still as jumps.
01:31:981 (1,2,3,4) - Jumpier jumps, pls. I wanna do it too but it will ruin the aesthetics of it.
01:31:981 (1,2,3,4) - ^
02:28:433 (2) - Replace this with a stream, maybe? It ruins the flow. 02:28:433 (2) - Actually, yes I'm aiming for a little flow break here, and I can't change this into a stream too. It will ruin the flow too
02:41:710 - Maybe add a circle here. No, I feel like if I add a circle there, it's overmapping.
02:42:116 (2) - I think you should break this into a different combo.
03:41:204 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I think you should do something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6209081. It sound very intense there imo and the sound is getting higher.
04:01:170 (1,2,3,4) - Jumpier jumps here, pls. No...
04:56:254 (2) - Take away the clap sound. It doesn't match the music. No, there's a sound there. Just hear it when the hitsound is off, there is.

That's all!

- Yoshimaro - wrote:

m4m h e h

Rain

00:48:197 (2,4,5) - make the space between these equidistant? 00:48:197 (2,4) - looks a bit close Sure.
01:57:926 (8,1) - make parallel? Fixed
02:46:981 (2,1) - personally felt that 1.96 ~ 2.0 was perfect emphasis and that 01:19:818 (1) - was a bit underwhelming Actually I find the first kiai is less intense than the second one, so I put that with a smaller spacing.
03:49:008 (1) - deserves its own emphasis, new vocal verse and stressed syllable as well as percussion... 03:51:440 (1) - this was better No, different pattern.
03:55:494 (1) - underemphasized It's emphasized with NC-ing
03:59:954 (1) - ^ ^
04:40:899 (1) - ^ Actually I love this kind of pattern. And I think emphasizing here would break the flow... (And actually I don't follow emphasis 100%, I ignore some.)

map looks pretty and functions pretty well, just felt a couple things especially later in the map were underwhelming. have a star

pp [Rain] umbrellas c: gl ranking

1. Bg image could be improved to 1366x768
2. You cannot have different volumes/samples on red and green timelines that are the same
   
   

1. Sigh, new timing points below if you dont know how to apply them message me ig
   
   APPLY THIS BEFORE YOU APPLY THE MOD BELOW!!!
   
   Timing Points

   [TimingPoints]
   252,810.810810810811,4,2,1,25,1,0
   380,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,25,0,0
   11711,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,30,0,0
   12116,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,25,0,0
   12522,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,20,0,0
   12927,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,10,0,0
   13332,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,5,0,0
   14055,810.810810810811,4,2,1,25,1,0
   14144,-99.9999999996998,4,2,1,40,0,0
   14821,810.810810810811,4,2,1,25,1,0
   16575,-100,4,2,2,35,0,0
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   295495,-111.111111111111,4,2,2,55,0,0
   297117,-125,4,2,1,45,0,0

1. Check!

1. 00:00:252 - tbh with you i strongyl suggest you use a different sample for this the annoying clicks that are heard at the end of each slider/note. Look for some soft hitsounds that are barely heard
2. 00:03:495 (1) - you used a curvy slider at the beginning then a sharp one, why not make this curvy too? aesthetics dud
3. 00:09:120 - theres a really strong sound you are missing here on the grey tick, technically this could work and sound ok, you have to take a closer listen to your song at not only 100% speed but at 25% as well to catch all the sounds that tend to stand out, ie like that one i just showed you
4. 00:13:833 (1) - remove this note, it plays awfully and it doesnt really add any intesity to it either. Id consder adding a slider or something if you want to catch that ticky sound
5. 00:18:064 (1,3) - careful on overlaps like these too, this falls under note placement if you arent careful enough then in gameplay it will look really messy also, try using the grid to its full potential, since then it makes the map more spread out and you arent mapping in the one spot constantly. So just to point something out the overlap i pointed out is pretty bad, but 00:19:280 (4,5) - this on the other hand looks really neat since its not 2 sliderstarts that are overlaping its a sliderend and a bit of a slider which makes it look actually not messy at all
6. 00:30:834 (9,3) - here's one more bad overlap you should avoid, either stick to using these, or these (personal favourite) consistently to achieve a nice effect
7. 00:32:658 (5) - nc this since its a lead in into another section and since the ds is bigger it would highlight that very well, this is another technique that i like using, so when a new section appears (i.e. when new sounds come into play or when they change just slightly to be noticed, thats a section change) i try to make it somewhat more increasingly more/less difficult depending on the sounds that are present, which in return gives a really nice emphasis leading into the nice section.
8. 00:33:469 (9) - ctrl+g this since all the jumps are going forward back forward back, this break it and makes it unatural to play, so heres the picture of what i mean - Look at the green lines, here you are forcing to make the player make a unatural move from going in a star pattern to suddenly making a triangle jump which is really unatural and awkward to play, yet if you ctrl+g it, it becomes more natural since its still the same angle the jumps are traveling at, be careful with that too since that can cause a lot of unecessary flow issues for no reason.
9. 00:40:766 (1,3) - fix your blanket boi
10. 00:50:496 (1) - i have to say that this section till here 01:06:712 (1) - looks fab, keep it up!
11. 01:40:158 (4) - guitar sound careful dont underemphasize it!!
12. 01:51:307 (1) - be really careful with your use of nc's, since what you are doing right now is really weird and offputting. Keep in mind that you should just place nc's every big white tick (usually reffered to as the downbeat) for the best and most accurate effect, also theres no reason to emphasize the note with a nc since theres really nothing that much being changed its still the same sounds with a bit of a cello.
13. 01:52:929 (3) - ^
14. 01:54:348 (2,3) - dont use the same thing for such lower sounds, so you use this 01:53:739 (1) - to emphasize the really strong sounds that are given off, yet these 2 sliders dont have the same sounds, strongly suggest you change to circles here tbh
15. 02:14:314 (4) - this kickslider doesnt go with anything, change it since theres nothing on the yellow tick
16. 02:24:145 (2) - you could move this just slightly right to avoid the after circle hit outlines easily
17. 02:33:165 (2,3,4) - whats the point of changing the stream now? its been curvy till then keep it consistant, breaking consistency like this is kinda odd
18. 02:34:685 - except of ending the slider at the vocals start a new one, or a jumping pattern since the vocals are to strong to be wasted like this
19. 02:42:388 (1) - 10x stronger sound yet has same spacing as 02:42:996 (4) - be careful dud, this is really sounding/looking bad if you do this since your not correctly emphasizing things
20. 02:43:199 (1) -^
21. 02:45:631 (1) - again ^ same things just look over your spacing carefully to make sure you fix all of these, dont like mentioning a lot of stuff constantly
22. 03:41:983 (1,2,3,4) - you could make this stream look nicer by placing a circle somewhere on the timeline and just blanketing the stream round it tbh, adds style points
23. 03:49:685 (1) - could make the red point in the middle for nicer look too, current looks eh
24. 03:56:983 (1) - ^
25. 04:14:010 (1) - this ends on the white tick
26. 04:14:821 (1) - Your spacing usage is really questionable in this kiai, so like here 04:18:672 (4) - you use really low spacing compared to this 04:17:861 (2) - , yet (4) is actually stronger xd. Theres more of these just listen closely to all sounds
27. 04:49:685 (3,1) - fugly overlap x)
28. The end of the song isnt 5min XD, its like 4:59.9 something, since at the beginning it starts at 00:00:250 - , and last note appears at 05:00:226 - so you can do the milisecond maths yourself xd

C00L wrote:

Right
Check! - Means it's been checked and nothing wrong has been found
Please ignore my note/slider placement on the timeline, i do that to show make my point more clearer
Red - Indicates that an unrankable issue has been found

[General]

1. Bg image could be improved to 1366x768
2. You cannot have different volumes/samples on red and green timelines that are the same
   
   

[Timing]

1. Sigh, new timing points below if you dont know how to apply them message me ig
   
   APPLY THIS BEFORE YOU APPLY THE MOD BELOW!!!
   
   Timing Points

   [TimingPoints]
   252,810.810810810811,4,2,1,25,1,0
   380,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,25,0,0
   11711,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,30,0,0
   12116,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,25,0,0
   12522,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,20,0,0
   12927,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,10,0,0
   13332,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,5,0,0
   14055,810.810810810811,4,2,1,25,1,0
   14144,-99.9999999996998,4,2,1,40,0,0
   14821,810.810810810811,4,2,1,25,1,0
   16575,-100,4,2,2,35,0,0
   16778,-100,4,2,2,55,0,0
   23872,-100,4,2,2,45,0,0
   24278,-100,4,2,2,55,0,0
   24683,-100,4,2,2,35,0,0
   25494,-100,4,2,2,25,0,0
   26305,-100,4,2,2,35,0,0
   27724,-100,4,2,2,25,0,0
   27926,-100,4,2,2,55,0,0
   29548,-100,4,2,2,45,0,0
   29751,-100,4,2,2,55,0,0
   33197,-100,4,2,2,35,0,0
   33399,-100,4,2,2,45,0,0
   33602,-100,4,2,2,55,0,0
   52656,-100,4,2,2,35,0,0
   52859,-100,4,2,2,55,0,0
   53264,-100,4,2,2,55,0,0
   53467,-100,4,2,1,55,0,0
   53873,-111.111111111111,4,2,2,50,0,0
   66846,-153.846153846153,4,2,1,35,0,0
   74549,-117.647058823529,4,2,1,50,0,0
   79008,-100,4,2,1,95,0,0
   79818,-90.9090909090909,4,2,2,60,0,1
   103739,-100,4,2,2,75,0,1
   105764,-100,4,2,2,45,0,0
   107386,-100,4,2,2,35,0,0
   109008,-100,4,2,2,25,0,0
   110629,-100,4,2,1,35,0,0
   115494,-100,4,2,2,55,0,0
   120967,-100,4,2,2,25,0,0
   121170,-100,4,2,2,55,0,0
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   166576,-100,4,2,1,55,0,0
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   293872,-100,4,2,1,65,0,0
   295495,-111.111111111111,4,2,2,55,0,0
   297117,-125,4,2,1,45,0,0

Thanks for the timing check, but I prefer using 240 as the offset :3 since I think 252 is too late.

[Hitsounds]

1. Check!

[Rain]

1. 00:00:252 - tbh with you i strongyl suggest you use a different sample for this the annoying clicks that are heard at the end of each slider/note. Look for some soft hitsounds that are barely heard I hitsounded this with the help of default, so I think it's okay. Maybe it's your skin.
2. 00:03:495 (1) - you used a curvy slider at the beginning then a sharp one, why not make this curvy too? aesthetics dud Sure.
3. 00:09:120 - theres a really strong sound you are missing here on the grey tick, technically this could work and sound ok, you have to take a closer listen to your song at not only 100% speed but at 25% as well to catch all the sounds that tend to stand out, ie like that one i just showed you lol, people won't notice that one, and it's covered by the slider end. So I think it's not a big deal.
4. 00:13:833 (1) - remove this note, it plays awfully and it doesnt really add any intesity to it either. Id consder adding a slider or something if you want to catch that ticky sound No, I don't think it's awful.
5. 00:18:064 (1,3) - careful on overlaps like these too, this falls under note placement if you arent careful enough then in gameplay it will look really messy also, try using the grid to its full potential, since then it makes the map more spread out and you arent mapping in the one spot constantly. So just to point something out the overlap i pointed out is pretty bad, but 00:19:280 (4,5) - this on the other hand looks really neat since its not 2 sliderstarts that are overlaping its a sliderend and a bit of a slider which makes it look actually not messy at all People keep complaining about this overlaps orz, I changed it so they're not overlapping, 00:19:293 (4) - but I changed the one here instead.
6. 00:30:834 (9,3) - here's one more bad overlap you should avoid, either stick to using these, or these (personal favourite) consistently to achieve a nice effect Made a triangle with 00:30:847 (9,2,3) - . But I don't think it's visible in game mode lol. I made this 00:31:050 (1) - far from 9 to emphasize better.
7. 00:32:658 (5) - nc this since its a lead in into another section and since the ds is bigger it would highlight that very well, this is another technique that i like using, so when a new section appears (i.e. when new sounds come into play or when they change just slightly to be noticed, thats a section change) i try to make it somewhat more increasingly more/less difficult depending on the sounds that are present, which in return gives a really nice emphasis leading into the nice section.Sure.
8. 00:33:469 (9) - ctrl+g this since all the jumps are going forward back forward back, this break it and makes it unatural to play, so heres the picture of what i mean - Look at the green lines, here you are forcing to make the player make a unatural move from going in a star pattern to suddenly making a triangle jump which is really unatural and awkward to play, yet if you ctrl+g it, it becomes more natural since its still the same angle the jumps are traveling at, be careful with that too since that can cause a lot of unecessary flow issues for no reason. No, there's actually a reason for it. The sound there is pretty strong, drums. And because I want to blanket it with 00:32:469 (4) - , I must place it there. And I think CTRL+G-ing 00:33:482 (5) - would break the flow much and make it awkward to play.
9. 00:40:766 (1,3) - fix your blanket boi okay.
10. 00:50:496 (1) - i have to say that this section till here 01:06:712 (1) - looks fab, keep it up! Thanks :3
11. 01:40:158 (4) - guitar sound careful dont underemphasize it!! I'm staying consistent with the other pattern like 03:08:752 (2,3) -
12. 01:51:307 (1) - be really careful with your use of nc's, since what you are doing right now is really weird and offputting. Keep in mind that you should just place nc's every big white tick (usually reffered to as the downbeat) for the best and most accurate effect, also theres no reason to emphasize the note with a nc since theres really nothing that much being changed its still the same sounds with a bit of a cello. Removed NC.
13. 01:52:929 (3) - ^ 01:52:942 (1) - But not with this one, it helps people reading that it is a 1/1 gap.
14. 01:54:348 (2,3) - dont use the same thing for such lower sounds, so you use this 01:53:739 (1) - to emphasize the really strong sounds that are given off, yet these 2 sliders dont have the same sounds, strongly suggest you change to circles here tbh No... It looks pretty imo.
15. 02:14:314 (4) - this kickslider doesnt go with anything, change it since theres nothing on the yellow tick There is. Following piano here or something.
16. 02:24:145 (2) - you could move this just slightly right to avoid the after circle hit outlines easily Sure.
17. 02:33:165 (2,3,4) - whats the point of changing the stream now? its been curvy till then keep it consistant, breaking consistency like this is kinda odd Changed
18. 02:34:685 - except of ending the slider at the vocals start a new one, or a jumping pattern since the vocals are to strong to be wasted like this Will ask another mapper later.
19. 02:42:388 (1) - 10x stronger sound yet has same spacing as 02:42:996 (4) - be careful dud, this is really sounding/looking bad if you do this since your not correctly emphasizing things Following aesthetics here.
20. 02:43:199 (1) -^
21. 02:45:631 (1) - again ^ same things just look over your spacing carefully to make sure you fix all of these, dont like mentioning a lot of stuff constantly
22. 03:41:983 (1,2,3,4) - you could make this stream look nicer by placing a circle somewhere on the timeline and just blanketing the stream round it tbh, adds style points https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6242600 It's blanketed.
23. 03:49:685 (1) - could make the red point in the middle for nicer look too, current looks eh Like mine better
24. 03:56:983 (1) - ^
25. 04:14:010 (1) - this ends on the white tick Don't hear any sound after that, so I'm still putting it as 1/2.
26. 04:14:821 (1) - Your spacing usage is really questionable in this kiai, so like here 04:18:672 (4) - you use really low spacing compared to this 04:17:861 (2) - , yet (4) is actually stronger xd. Theres more of these just listen closely to all sounds Patterning XD I reduced the spacing at 2 for consistency with the others like 04:31:658 (4,6,2) -
27. 04:49:685 (3,1) - fugly overlap x)
28. The end of the song isnt 5min XD, its like 4:59.9 something, since at the beginning it starts at 00:00:250 - , and last note appears at 05:00:226 - so you can do the milisecond maths yourself xd It's fine, mine is like monstrata's map at Monsoon Rain what is it... named?

[Final Words]
I mean.. its okay? theres some really questionable pattern/NC usage, same with ds usage but i mean youll get used to it sometime. Just make sure that you listen to the song really carefully and dont put random kicksliders or notes x)
Good Luck!

C00L wrote:

Your reasoning is really really bad for nearly all things that you denied...
You basically just done the visual stuff only since youre to laze to fix the stuff that you think are time consuming, thats just... wow
Yes being a bit salty here since most of reasoning for not mapping to some stronger sounds was because you follow aesthetics?? What?? mapping to sounds is much more reliable than some patterns zzz

In the end its your map so i mean its a coin flip to me what you do with it, but i would really insist that you check my mod again with not thinking about replying asap, but with the the intention to make your map better, since that was what my mod was for. Check it with "another mapper" if you wish but make sure hes experienced and not your friend soneone random thats good, and i can guarantee you that hell agree with most of my points in my mod about your map

Pentori wrote:

hi

[Rain]
00:03:483 - 00:04:294 - you have whistles on accent piano notes so what about these? Oh sure.
00:08:956 (4,5) - these are a bit off in terms of timing. u should try time this correctly with red timing points I fixed those, I hope. I'm not good at timing though XD, I made 00:08:986 (1) - a straight non_reversed slider.
00:11:692 (1) - why end the spinner so early when the sound keeps going? since the bpm is so low there's a decent amount of recovery time from 00:13:618 - so u can end the spinner here I ended the spinner at 00:13:819 - since I hear sort of sound like it's changing to a higher sound.
00:18:077 - theres no clap here okay.
00:18:077 (1,3) - this overlap is pretty nasty, try move 00:18:888 (3) - up so slider head and border dont overlap Sure.
00:45:847 - 00:46:252 - these aren't actually claps in the music so they feel really out of place. its ok to add additional hitsounds over the music, but it becomes worrying when it doesn't really make sense and isnt consistent. like at 00:49:090 - 00:49:496 - these have the same sounds as 00:45:847 - 00:46:252 - but you didn't hitsound them. Hitsounded.
00:52:942 (1) - this combo is really short, i dont see why you need it True, fixed.
01:14:834 (1) - i dont feel the jumps suit the calm entrance to the kiai. the climax is at 01:19:698 (1) - yet this plays easier than 01:14:834 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - so maybe try introduce sliders instead for less density Fixed.
01:18:888 - such a powerful vocal why not make this clickable? I'm following a holding sound there, I'm starting to follow vocals at 01:19:090 - , so I'll wait for another modder to say this :3
01:21:320 (1,2) - again, youve hitsounded the claps here but didnt do this elsewhere 01:24:563 (1,2) Fixed, will recheck later.
01:22:942 - ^ clap here but there isn't one on 01:26:185 - also i'd suggest removing these claps - if you listen to the song with hitsounds disabled you'll notice the claps are every 2nd and 4th beat and hitsounding the 1st beat with a clap disrupts that consistency Sure.
01:52:942 (1) - nc isn't really necessary I think it's necessary to keep players focus that there's a 1/1 gap between those two.
01:59:428 (3,1) - overlap is yuck lol it's not visible in gameplay so no worries.
02:00:239 (1) - nc's in this section are kinda inconsistent. why have you nc'ed this when you dont have an nc on 01:56:996 (5) - ? Yeah, they used the same rhythm but yet the NC is not consistent. Removed NC.
02:09:969 (1) - pretty random drum clap since you didnt use this hitsound before Removed.
02:16:455 - no clap Yeah, removed

ok gonna stop halfway cos i dont want to keep repeating myself. try work on nc's and hitsounds so they're consistent and correctly complement the music Will do :3

good luck!

1. Who's doing your timing? this song is pretty much constant on 74 bpm, you just need some red timing to reset the metronome.
   
   Based on your timing, the offset 240 pretty much accurate to me but this red timing here 00:08:986 - , 00:09:563 - , 00:14:459 - , and 00:14:643 - not really needed so I very sugest you delete those timing point, as they will make these notes 00:08:986 (4) - and 00:14:037 (1,2,3,4) - hard to click because it doesn't any new red timing and will ruin the gameplay.
   
   But you do need some actual red timing to reset the metronome here 00:14:023 - and here 00:14:833 - . So the overall timing should be looks like this
   
   SPOILER

   

1. 00:08:986 (4) - If you try to highlight or follow the piano sound, then you should use this rhythm instead http://puu.sh/s74Vq/279da5c96b.jpg, literally there is no beat to emphsize on here 00:08:986 - if you really follow the piano.
2. 00:11:691 (1) - I'd sugest to make the spinner end on here instead 00:13:617 - before we play the new section on jumps sequences here 00:14:037 (1,2,3,4,1) -
3. 00:18:077 (1,3) - That kinda of overlap not really neat for the gameplay, I'd say it will better if you move (3) a little farther like this http://puu.sh/s7548/dadd992d09.jpg or you can take example on 00:20:915 (9,1) - for a better gameplay. As far as I see there's several overlap like that, I think you should reconsider on making them looks neater.
4. 00:22:942 (5,7) - Same as above
5. 00:26:185 (3,4) - Based on the song, there is nothing to emphsize on this one 00:26:590 (4) - there's no vocal or instrument on that part, literally just a long sound of guitar sound. So you can replace both sliders with a single slider like http://puu.sh/s75dA/64e836381c.jpg to make your rhythm more make sense to play.
6. 00:39:563 (6,7) - You can move both slider to x:295 y:248 to improve the gameplay http://puu.sh/s75hQ/40b133102b.jpg
7. 00:59:834 (9) - You can do ctrl+j there to improve the flow on 00:59:428 (8,9,10,1) - into something like this http://puu.sh/s75n8/e942faa767.jpg they are neater than the current one.
8. 01:07:739 (3) - Due to music that long slider doesn't seems fit imo. I think you should try to follow the vocal here, so try this rhythm instead http://puu.sh/s75ui/d7ad9bacbc.jpg it can cover both vocal and piano sound better.
9. 01:53:752 (1,2) - What are you try to follow? imo that rhythm doesn't fit the music, try this rhythm instead http://puu.sh/s75zZ/34d59b259f.jpg. Because there is nothing to emphsize on these blue tick 01:53:955 - and 01:54:361 - .
10. 02:03:482 (4) - Delete clap on head, the clap should be on 02:03:685 - (the tail)
11. 04:43:414 (4) - That one can be moved above to prevent overlap, try move that to x:272 y:20 http://puu.sh/s75To/ef42dc5625.jpg.
12. 04:56:135 (2) - Better be replaced with a circle on the big tick here 04:56:185 - . Literally that 1/16 doesn't make sense player tend to misclicked that lol.

Mako Sakata wrote:

Hello
Sugestion,

General

1. Who's doing your timing? this song is pretty much constant on 74 bpm, you just need some red timing to reset the metronome. Lol it's me myself xD
   
   Based on your timing, the offset 240 pretty much accurate to me but this red timing here 00:08:986 - , 00:09:563 - , 00:14:459 - , and 00:14:643 - not really needed so I very sugest you delete those timing point, as they will make these notes 00:08:986 (4) - and 00:14:037 (1,2,3,4) - hard to click because it doesn't any new red timing and will ruin the gameplay. I deleted the one with the 96 BPM, I discussed it with one of my friend and said it's more acceptable with 74 BPM. But I'll keep 00:14:037 (1,2,3,4) - these stay as it is. Since it's more fitting if I use double timings here. And in case of hard pressing, you could still get perfect scores at 00:14:037 (1,2,3,4) - even if you press them with the same beat.
   
   But you do need some actual red timing to reset the metronome here 00:14:023 - and here 00:14:833 - . So the overall timing should be looks like this
   
   SPOILER

   
   
   Yeah it's true

Rain

1. 00:08:986 (4) - If you try to highlight or follow the piano sound, then you should use this rhythm instead http://puu.sh/s74Vq/279da5c96b.jpg, literally there is no beat to emphsize on here 00:08:986 - if you really follow the piano. I'm not sure, there's a pretty soft piano sound at 00:08:956 - , even if it's lower in volume compared to the other piano sounds, I want to map it to have consistency to follow all piano sounds at the intro.
2. 00:11:691 (1) - I'd sugest to make the spinner end on here instead 00:13:617 - before we play the new section on jumps sequences here 00:14:037 (1,2,3,4,1) - Sure, I agree.
3. 00:18:077 (1,3) - That kinda of overlap not really neat for the gameplay, I'd say it will better if you move (3) a little farther like this http://puu.sh/s7548/dadd992d09.jpg or you can take example on 00:20:915 (9,1) - for a better gameplay. As far as I see there's several overlap like that, I think you should reconsider on making them looks neater. Many people complaint about this thing xD changed.
4. 00:22:942 (5,7) - Same as above Fixed.
5. 00:26:185 (3,4) - Based on the song, there is nothing to emphsize on this one 00:26:590 (4) - there's no vocal or instrument on that part, literally just a long sound of guitar sound. So you can replace both sliders with a single slider like http://puu.sh/s75dA/64e836381c.jpg to make your rhythm more make sense to play. There's a sound at 00:26:590 - . Since it's very small to hear, I made a slider there to show that it's a small sound.
6. 00:39:563 (6,7) - You can move both slider to x:295 y:248 to improve the gameplay http://puu.sh/s75hQ/40b133102b.jpg Sure.
7. 00:59:834 (9) - You can do ctrl+j there to improve the flow on 00:59:428 (8,9,10,1) - into something like this http://puu.sh/s75n8/e942faa767.jpg they are neater than the current one. I like my pattern more, and I think they flew nicely.
8. 01:07:739 (3) - Due to music that long slider doesn't seems fit imo. I think you should try to follow the vocal here, so try this rhythm instead http://puu.sh/s75ui/d7ad9bacbc.jpg it can cover both vocal and piano sound better.Sure. Did the same with the second one too.
9. 01:53:752 (1,2) - What are you try to follow? imo that rhythm doesn't fit the music, try this rhythm instead http://puu.sh/s75zZ/34d59b259f.jpg. Because there is nothing to emphsize on these blue tick 01:53:955 - and 01:54:361 - . I'm trying to follow the drums here. And there's a drum at the blue tick.
10. 02:03:482 (4) - Delete clap on head, the clap should be on 02:03:685 - (the tail) Fixed.
11. 04:43:414 (4) - That one can be moved above to prevent overlap, try move that to x:272 y:20 http://puu.sh/s75To/ef42dc5625.jpg. Moved to 310,32 instead.
12. 04:56:135 (2) - Better be replaced with a circle on the big tick here 04:56:185 - . Literally that 1/16 doesn't make sense player tend to misclicked that lol.Lol sure.

Good luck!

_Meep_ wrote:

ze mods by ze meep

First off,-Nitrous' profile link in the description is broken lele Yeah lol fixed.

00:01:861 (3) - NC this,because it would feel inconsistent that you NCed 00:03:483 (1) - but not the previous one. No, I NC-ed 00:03:483 (1) - cuz' of the downbeat.
00:08:956 (4) - There are clearly 3 sounds on each tick here, I'm against this slider considering the fact that 00:08:956 (4,6) - are the same shape,even though 00:09:564 (6) - plays a different sound than 00:08:956 (4) - ,I'd rather you switch it to a triple or a single reverse slider. Pretty confused about this lately, since the timings felt off, and the second sound feels doesn't fit with 1/8. But I'll try making this a 1/8 reversed slider first.
00:42:401 (5) - NC No...
00:43:009 (8) - Remove this note,there is no sound. Vocals...
00:52:131 (5) - NC No.
01:05:104 (8) - NC No.
01:07:131 - From here,I'd like the change of rhythm to be like

As there are vocals to be mapped such as 01:07:536 - Leaving it as it is, they followed the vocals fine.
01:09:158 - From here,I'd also like a change of rhythm like

Same reason. ^
01:18:888 - Theres a vocal to be mapped here,why is it on a sliderend? Sounds bad and plays bad imo Fixed.
01:24:563 (6) - NC No
01:31:050 (5) - NC No.
01:38:347 (9) - NC this for emphasis. I think I emphasized it finely, with 1.70x spacing, since most of the emphasis for drums are 1.70x
02:09:969 (5) - NC No.
02:13:212 (6) - NC No.
02:14:225 - Mute this sldierend,sounds bad with doublesound I think it's fine as it is, there're 3 sounds there.
02:19:698 (5) - NC No.
02:20:408 (8) - Plays really weird because of the pause,just use a double I want to keep this part relaxing same with the other parts, and it would keep the consistency between 02:20:408 (8,9,10) -
02:33:077 - Why the hell is the sliderend playing the drums as well .-. Please just stick to your 5 note bursts and repeat sliders. It's repeat sliders? And I think the slider end as drums is okay, since I did it at 02:31:050 (1) - too. Will find more mods here.
02:34:293 - From here to 02:38:752 - ,Please check on your rhythm and map more closely to the vocals. Some examples can be found above as I posted. Sorry, but I think the rhythm is good enough for me, to the vocals and instruments.
02:52:131 (5) - NC No.
02:58:415 (4) - NC No.
02:59:428 (5) - NC No.
03:00:239 (7) - NC No.
03:01:050 (1) - Remove NC Removed.
03:01:861 (5) - NC No.
03:03:482 (7) - NC No.
03:03:888 (1) - Remove NC No for this, 1 is the part of another pattern. And the approach line would be kinda annoying for the aesthetics imo.
03:05:104 (5) - NC No.
03:08:347 (6) - NC No.
03:11:590 (6) - NC No.
03:18:077 (7) - NC <-- From this point,you should see most of the NCs are here because of your high combos,please try to refrain going above 8 or 9,there are pretty good places to NC,but you just decided to leave them alone. Please fix this as your map has millions of this XD Lols yeah you mentioned a lot of NCs, but since every 2/1 NC is not needed at this map (I NC-ed it last time and someone told me that's it's a spam) So I'm not going to NC every 2/1 beats. Sorry.
03:21:320 (7) - NC No.
03:25:374 - Drum sound on a sliderend,wut,pls make it a note or something clickable I'm following the piano here.
03:24:563 (6) - NC No.
03:34:293 (7) - NC No.
03:37:536 (6) - NC No.
03:57:604 (6,7) - Use a different rhythm please,sliders on these red ticks sound bad. It's not to the piano.
04:16:455 (6) - NC,I think I'll stop the NCing here,you should be able to get the gist of it by now. Add em in your map No.
02:41:590 - Back to this,add a break time after you delete these two notes 02:41:996 (2,3) - ,it sounds alot better. I'm going for a drain in HP here, and I'll not delete 02:41:996 (2,3) - since they're important.
01:12:763 - Add a break at this part too ^

fix lots of stuff,NC is pretty inconsistent and it's very long most of the time.
Note placements are fine to me
Rhythm choices are a bit weird since there are alot of sliders.
GL

William K wrote:

_Meep_ wrote:

ze mods by ze meep

First off,-Nitrous' profile link in the description is broken lele Yeah lol fixed.

00:01:861 (3) - NC this,because it would feel inconsistent that you NCed 00:03:483 (1) - but not the previous one. No, I NC-ed 00:03:483 (1) - cuz' of the downbeat.
00:08:956 (4) - There are clearly 3 sounds on each tick here, I'm against this slider considering the fact that 00:08:956 (4,6) - are the same shape,even though 00:09:564 (6) - plays a different sound than 00:08:956 (4) - ,I'd rather you switch it to a triple or a single reverse slider. Pretty confused about this lately, since the timings felt off, and the second sound feels doesn't fit with 1/8. But I'll try making this a 1/8 reversed slider first.
00:42:401 (5) - NC No...
00:43:009 (8) - Remove this note,there is no sound. Vocals...
00:52:131 (5) - NC No.
01:05:104 (8) - NC No.
01:07:131 - From here,I'd like the change of rhythm to be like

As there are vocals to be mapped such as 01:07:536 - Leaving it as it is, they followed the vocals fine.
01:09:158 - From here,I'd also like a change of rhythm like

Same reason. ^
01:18:888 - Theres a vocal to be mapped here,why is it on a sliderend? Sounds bad and plays bad imo Fixed.
01:24:563 (6) - NC No
01:31:050 (5) - NC No.
01:38:347 (9) - NC this for emphasis. I think I emphasized it finely, with 1.70x spacing, since most of the emphasis for drums are 1.70x
02:09:969 (5) - NC No.
02:13:212 (6) - NC No.
02:14:225 - Mute this sldierend,sounds bad with doublesound I think it's fine as it is, there're 3 sounds there.
02:19:698 (5) - NC No.
02:20:408 (8) - Plays really weird because of the pause,just use a double I want to keep this part relaxing same with the other parts, and it would keep the consistency between 02:20:408 (8,9,10) -
02:33:077 - Why the hell is the sliderend playing the drums as well .-. Please just stick to your 5 note bursts and repeat sliders. It's repeat sliders? And I think the slider end as drums is okay, since I did it at 02:31:050 (1) - too. Will find more mods here.
02:34:293 - From here to 02:38:752 - ,Please check on your rhythm and map more closely to the vocals. Some examples can be found above as I posted. Sorry, but I think the rhythm is good enough for me, to the vocals and instruments.
02:52:131 (5) - NC No.
02:58:415 (4) - NC No.
02:59:428 (5) - NC No.
03:00:239 (7) - NC No.
03:01:050 (1) - Remove NC Removed.
03:01:861 (5) - NC No.
03:03:482 (7) - NC No.
03:03:888 (1) - Remove NC No for this, 1 is the part of another pattern. And the approach line would be kinda annoying for the aesthetics imo.
03:05:104 (5) - NC No.
03:08:347 (6) - NC No.
03:11:590 (6) - NC No.
03:18:077 (7) - NC <-- From this point,you should see most of the NCs are here because of your high combos,please try to refrain going above 8 or 9,there are pretty good places to NC,but you just decided to leave them alone. Please fix this as your map has millions of this XD Lols yeah you mentioned a lot of NCs, but since every 2/1 NC is not needed at this map (I NC-ed it last time and someone told me that's it's a spam) So I'm not going to NC every 2/1 beats. Sorry.
03:21:320 (7) - NC No.
03:25:374 - Drum sound on a sliderend,wut,pls make it a note or something clickable I'm following the piano here.
03:24:563 (6) - NC No.
03:34:293 (7) - NC No.
03:37:536 (6) - NC No.
03:57:604 (6,7) - Use a different rhythm please,sliders on these red ticks sound bad. It's not to the piano.
04:16:455 (6) - NC,I think I'll stop the NCing here,you should be able to get the gist of it by now. Add em in your map No.
02:41:590 - Back to this,add a break time after you delete these two notes 02:41:996 (2,3) - ,it sounds alot better. I'm going for a drain in HP here, and I'll not delete 02:41:996 (2,3) - since they're important.
01:12:763 - Add a break at this part too ^

fix lots of stuff,NC is pretty inconsistent and it's very long most of the time.
Note placements are fine to me
Rhythm choices are a bit weird since there are alot of sliders.
GL

Thanks for Modding :3 Sorry for all the reds orz.