TSUNKU - Batting Show Perfect Version [OsuMania] · forum

Daikyi

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Daikyi 2016-02-16T15:14:24+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 11:16:50 PM

Artist: TSUNKU
Title: Batting Show Perfect Version
Source: みんなのリズム天国
Tags: SV Gimmick Minna no Rhythm Tengoku Heaven Fever Exhibition Match Baseball
BPM: 120
Filesize: 3516kb
Play Time: 01:40
Difficulties Available:

Batter Up! - 4Key (3.03 stars, 692 notes)
Easy - 4Key (1.4 stars, 255 notes)
Normal - 4Key (2.21 stars, 511 notes)

Download: TSUNKU - Batting Show Perfect Version
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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&
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Kamikaze wrote:
This map is a statement. This is a statement that hardcore SV maps CAN and SHOULD get ranked. If a map is competently made and within the boundaries of rhythmical reason (pretty much pls no dumperino), while also abiding ranking criteria (as in no unrankable gimmicks and hitsounds present) there is absolutely nothing stopping it from getting ranked.
Maps do not have to be sightreadable to be rankable, this is a really narrow minded and stupid stigma that's been going around the community for far too long.
Granted, if you have a standard JS map or something along those lines, you do not want to have crazy teleports inbetween, but that also falls into not "competently done", because of the structural inconsistency (talking about standard/generic charts having extraordinary gimmicks out of nowhere).
PS. If someone brings up maps like smooooch, brynhildr, monster or whatever else as an example that SVs are bad - those maps are pretty much ruined by patterns, not SVs.

Shoutouts to
All the people who gave feedback during SOFT, as well as the countless people who raged at troll quads during playtesting
Adio, Han Solo, and Ciel for the mods to help tighten up the map
Kami for being a beautiful SV lover and for first

Julie for being a beautiful SV lover lover and for the.........

Background credit - http://science-all.com/images/wallpapers/baseball-pictures/baseball-pictures-10.jpg

changelog

4/24 - fixed beginning of most of the SVs to be much more consistent
4/29 - hitsounding
5/6 - Adiopulse mod applied
5/22 - Han Solo mod applied (cleaning up easy/normal)
6/10 - Ciel mod applied (SV modifications and such, also updated BG thanks Pope <3)
6/12 - bg fully updated, fixed a couple erroneous hitsounds
6/14 - ironed out the rest of the hitsounds, all of them are audible now

=======Kamikaze check======
6/17 - meta i'm an idiot
updates to batter up (done)
updates to normal (done)
updates to ez (dun)
6/20 - fixed like 1 pattern in batter up
added extra notes to stay consistent w/ normal
removed some silence at the end of a couple hitsounds
and moved to pending
======Julie check======
more hitsound fixing (hands/triples on normal)
couple more small things, snaps/hitsounds/SVs
disabled widescreen support
==================
6/21 - DQ
fixed volume, all hitsounds are a constant 50% volume throughout now
unsnapped note (that was weird) fixed
meta fixes pending confirmation
meta fixes applied

Last edited by Daikyi 2019-10-04T03:02:28+00:00, edited 29 times in total.

Adiopulse

147 posts

Joined May 2014

Adiopulse 2016-05-04T05:52:28+00:00

Adiopulse's "Got Here First" and "Buttered Up" Mod

Time for Sv's to rise again

All Diffs in here cause i like to keep things clean around here

Easy--------------------------------------------
add
note in any col 01:40:860 for mapset consistency
ln in any col 00:02:360 for mapset consistency

Normal-----------------------------------------
add
note in any col 01:40:860 for mapset consistency
id try to add notes where the groovy bass is like you did here 00:48:026 to 00:52:860 across the map

move
00:12:026 (12026|1,12193|0,12360|1) to col 3 or any, snare jacking
00:19:860 (19860|0,20026|1,20193|2,20360|3) any col snare jack
00:27:860 (27860|0,28026|2,28193|1,28360|3) ^
00:35:860 (35860|0,36026|1,36193|2,36360|3)
00:43:860 (43860|1,44026|2,44193|1,44360|2)
00:51:860 (51860|2,52026|1,52193|0,52360|3)
00:59:860 (59860|1,60026|2,60193|3,60360|2)
01:07:860 (67860|3,68026|0,68193|3,68360|0)
01:15:860 (75860|1,76026|2,76193|1,76360|2)
01:31:860 (91860|3,91860|0,92026|2,92026|1,92193|3,92193|0,92360|1,92360|2) same procedure, just not doubles, does sound different than the others

remove
00:32:693 (32693|1) - ghost note or move it to 00:32:776 - same col
00:52:526 (52526|2) - not part of the snare, or trying to follow the groovy bass

Other
sv is a bit too fast? maybe its just me 01:30:360 dat 10.0x

Batter up!--------------------------------------------------

add
another note any col 00:38:360

move
look at normal diff for snare jacks suggestions

change
this is with like every ln, the ln has to extend out to the end, delete the note in col 4 and extend the ln to that place. 00:16:860 (16860|3,18860|3)
possible rip quads
this is good tho 01:24:276 and this 01:38:735
extend this 01:11:860 (71860|1) to here 01:12:193 -

yo gl with this cancer errrrr i mean......... great map

Daikyi

190 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Daikyi 2016-05-06T18:40:40+00:00

Adiopulse wrote:
Adiopulse's "Got Here First" and "Buttered Up" Mod

Time for Sv's to rise again

All Diffs in here cause i like to keep things clean around here
Easy--------------------------------------------
add
note in any col 01:40:860 for mapset consistency
ln in any col 00:02:360 for mapset consistency
aye

Normal-----------------------------------------
add
note in any col 01:40:860 for mapset consistency
id try to add notes where the groovy bass is like you did here 00:48:026 to 00:52:860 across the map
the second half of the map is layered w/ the bass, the first half isn't. just to break up the monotony of the map and actually make it feel like it's progressing
move
00:12:026 (12026|1,12193|0,12360|1) to col 3 or any, snare jacking
00:19:860 (19860|0,20026|1,20193|2,20360|3) any col snare jack
00:27:860 (27860|0,28026|2,28193|1,28360|3) ^
00:35:860 (35860|0,36026|1,36193|2,36360|3)
00:43:860 (43860|1,44026|2,44193|1,44360|2)
00:51:860 (51860|2,52026|1,52193|0,52360|3)
00:59:860 (59860|1,60026|2,60193|3,60360|2)
01:07:860 (67860|3,68026|0,68193|3,68360|0)
01:15:860 (75860|1,76026|2,76193|1,76360|2)
01:31:860 (91860|3,91860|0,92026|2,92026|1,92193|3,92193|0,92360|1,92360|2) same procedure, just not doubles, does sound different than the others
literally didn't take any of these because slow jacking to the snares feels inappropriate for this song imo.
remove
00:32:693 (32693|1) - ghost note or move it to 00:32:776 - same col
removed only because it's inconsistent with the rest of the first half hits
00:52:526 (52526|2) - not part of the snare, or trying to follow the groovy bass
again, second half is following bass now

Other
sv is a bit too fast? maybe its just me 01:30:360 dat 10.0x
the whole song establishes the "quad on bat hit" pattern. they should realize there's a quad there. you just have to count
Batter up!--------------------------------------------------

add
another note any col 00:38:360
yep

move
look at normal diff for snare jacks suggestions
same as above

change
this is with like every ln, the ln has to extend out to the end, delete the note in col 4 and extend the ln to that place. 00:16:860 (16860|3,18860|3)
possible rip quads
this is good tho 01:24:276 and this 01:38:735
again, establishing that there's a quad at every end of phrase is super important for this diff, because it makes it much more fair, as the player knows 100% what's coming up. in the normal diff, there's always an implied quad (release+filled columns). batter up has the bonafide quad

extend this 01:11:860 (71860|1) to here 01:12:193 -
just got rid of all the lns in this section
yo gl with this cancer errrrr i mean......... great map

Chronocide

236 posts

Joined December 2014

Chronocide 2016-05-22T18:02:07+00:00

Some IRC modding ayy lmao
PLS NERF SV, OMGEE

Mod

2016-05-22 19:15 Daikyi: ay
2016-05-22 19:15 Han Solo: Yo
2016-05-22 19:16 Han Solo: 00:02:526 (2526|3) - For example
2016-05-22 19:16 Daikyi: on easy?
2016-05-22 19:16 Han Solo: Why not have a hold starting 00:02:360 (2360|0) - ?
2016-05-22 19:16 Han Solo: Yea
2016-05-22 19:17 Daikyi: i think, mostly because the emphasis is on the double that's already there, and a hold while it does cover the other notes, it feels weird putting the release there
2016-05-22 19:17 Han Solo: Maybe do it step style then
2016-05-22 19:18 Han Solo: Like, a 1/6 release?
2016-05-22 19:18 Daikyi: not sure what you mean
2016-05-22 19:18 Han Solo: http://puu.sh/p1dA3/8346fa1d97.png
2016-05-22 19:19 Daikyi: like, the emphasis comes on 00:02:526 - and not 00:02:360 -
2016-05-22 19:19 Daikyi: so putting nything other than a note on 00:02:526 - feels wrong i think
2016-05-22 19:19 Han Solo: What about
2016-05-22 19:20 Han Solo: http://puu.sh/p1dEY/adf9599ec6.png
2016-05-22 19:20 Daikyi: on easy?
2016-05-22 19:20 Han Solo: Yea
2016-05-22 19:20 Daikyi: like idk for easy diff
2016-05-22 19:20 Han Solo: Imo, makes more sense than having a double
2016-05-22 19:21 Daikyi: it works though, probably would do hold on 1 and note on the 4
2016-05-22 19:21 Han Solo: Mmh
2016-05-22 19:21 Han Solo: Alright then, moving on ^^
2016-05-22 19:21 Daikyi: aye
2016-05-22 19:21 Han Solo: 00:06:860 (6860|1,7193|1) -
2016-05-22 19:21 Han Solo: This is just nitpicking
2016-05-22 19:22 Han Solo: But on Easy I'd say patterns > pitch
2016-05-22 19:22 Han Solo: So I'd rather have 1-0
2016-05-22 19:22 Han Solo: Instead of 1-1
2016-05-22 19:22 Han Solo: But that wouldn't make pitch-wise
2016-05-22 19:22 Han Solo: 00:08:360 (8360|3,8860|3) - Same with those
2016-05-22 19:22 Daikyi: i think it's worth taking out
2016-05-22 19:22 Han Solo: Alright
2016-05-22 19:22 Daikyi: i mean, moving to 0
2016-05-22 19:23 Han Solo: Oh
2016-05-22 19:23 Daikyi: moved the second to 1
2016-05-22 19:23 Han Solo: Ok
2016-05-22 19:23 Han Solo: These however, 00:11:693 (11693|2,11860|3) - should definatly be split
2016-05-22 19:23 Han Solo: On seperate hands, I think
2016-05-22 19:23 Daikyi: i think reserving the slow jacks for the end for some difficulty ramping on easy is for the best
2016-05-22 19:23 Han Solo: Mmh, yea
2016-05-22 19:23 Daikyi: moved the previous to 2, then the first note that you highlighted to the 1
2016-05-22 19:24 Han Solo: There are more of those 1/3's in the chart, so apply that to them as well, I guess?
2016-05-22 19:24 Han Solo: 00:16:193 (16193|3) - Missed a note here
2016-05-22 19:24 Han Solo: And maaaaybe do a 0-1 on 00:16:360 (16360|2,16360|1) - ?
2016-05-22 19:25 Han Solo: 00:53:193 (53193|2,53360|2) - Jacks on easy D:
2016-05-22 19:25 Han Solo: Oh, speaking of, you don't have Kiai time
2016-05-22 19:26 Daikyi: i mean
2016-05-22 19:26 Daikyi: there's not really much kiai lol
2016-05-22 19:26 Han Solo: I guess
2016-05-22 19:26 Daikyi: idk where i'd put it
2016-05-22 19:27 Han Solo: Like, those sections could be Kiai
2016-05-22 19:27 Han Solo: But then 60% would be Kiai haha
2016-05-22 19:27 Daikyi: i think the second half can start introducing the split stuff
2016-05-22 19:27 Daikyi: and the end of the second half could finish w/ jacks
2016-05-22 19:27 Han Solo: What if you do split hand first, then broken stairs, then stairs, and finish with jacks
2016-05-22 19:28 Han Solo: You had some stair patterns as wel
2016-05-22 19:28 Han Solo: *well
2016-05-22 19:28 Han Solo: 01:26:360 (86360|3) - Like that section
2016-05-22 19:28 Han Solo: But difficulty scaling would be good, yea
2016-05-22 19:29 Han Solo: 01:40:860 (100860|2) - And this final note feels really awkward, it feels you finished the song and BAM
2016-05-22 19:29 Han Solo: SUPRISE
2016-05-22 19:29 Daikyi: always surprise though
2016-05-22 19:29 Han Solo: I missed it :^)
2016-05-22 19:29 Han Solo: Haha
2016-05-22 19:29 Han Solo: Anyways, that's all I had for Easy, moving on to Normal
2016-05-22 19:29 Daikyi: every diff has it, i used to not have it on easy, but consistency
2016-05-22 19:30 Han Solo: Ah, that makes sense
2016-05-22 19:30 Daikyi: i have the diff for beginner introduce:
2016-05-22 19:30 Daikyi: split stuff first, then jacks, stairs, then jack stairs
2016-05-22 19:30 Han Solo: Sounds good
2016-05-22 19:30 Han Solo: No broken stair patterns?
2016-05-22 19:31 Daikyi: split stairs?
2016-05-22 19:31 Daikyi: like 0213
2016-05-22 19:32 Han Solo: No, 0143
2016-05-22 19:32 Han Solo: *0132
2016-05-22 19:32 Daikyi: so a spin
2016-05-22 19:33 Daikyi: yeah there's one at the end
2016-05-22 19:33 Han Solo: Didn't know those were called spins

2016-05-22 19:33 Han Solo: But, yea, spins
2016-05-22 19:33 Han Solo: Oh, ok
2016-05-22 19:33 Daikyi: from ddr
2016-05-22 19:33 Daikyi: like if you imagine hitting 1243 with your feet
2016-05-22 19:33 Daikyi: left down right up
2016-05-22 19:33 Daikyi: you have to spin to do it properly
2016-05-22 19:33 Daikyi: lol
2016-05-22 19:35 Han Solo: Oow
2016-05-22 19:35 Han Solo: Makes sense
2016-05-22 19:35 Han Solo: Alright, Normal
2016-05-22 19:35 Han Solo: 00:02:360 (2360|1,2443|2,2526|3) -
2016-05-22 19:35 Han Solo: Again, same issue as Easy, really
2016-05-22 19:37 Daikyi: ok
2016-05-22 19:37 Daikyi: changing that to what's on batter up right5 now
2016-05-22 19:37 Daikyi: changing batter up to a LN
2016-05-22 19:38 Han Solo: Alright
2016-05-22 19:39 Han Solo: 00:08:193 (8193|2,8360|0,8360|1) - I would Ctr H this
2016-05-22 19:39 Han Solo: And move it one lane to the left
2016-05-22 19:39 Han Solo: [3][0][12], basically
2016-05-22 19:39 Daikyi: it works
2016-05-22 19:40 Daikyi: i think i was originally basing the pattern off the descending bass, but since the emphasis is on the pecussion in normal feels better on the 1[23]
2016-05-22 19:40 Han Solo: ...Yea! Totally!
2016-05-22 19:40 Han Solo: I just found it awkard to play lol
2016-05-22 19:40 Daikyi: oh lol
2016-05-22 19:40 Han Solo: Since the pattern didn't make sense compared to the music xD
2016-05-22 19:41 Han Solo: 00:10:860 (10860|1,10860|2,10860|0,10860|3) - Quad on Normal lol
2016-05-22 19:41 Han Solo: 00:10:860 (10860|1) - Maybe remove that note
2016-05-22 19:41 Han Solo: So it's a bit more friendly to noobs
2016-05-22 19:42 Daikyi: internal debates
2016-05-22 19:42 Daikyi: because i made all the bat sounds as pseudo quads
2016-05-22 19:42 Daikyi: or full quads
2016-05-22 19:42 Han Solo: Mmh
2016-05-22 19:42 Han Solo: I mean, it's really low BPM, but 2,18*
2016-05-22 19:42 Han Solo: *13
2016-05-22 19:42 Daikyi: bleh probably better for normal, removed the 2
2016-05-22 19:43 Han Solo: 00:12:193 (12193|0,12360|1) -
2016-05-22 19:43 Daikyi: mhm
2016-05-22 19:43 Han Solo: I would make that 3 0
2016-05-22 19:43 Han Solo: So you have 2-1-0-3
2016-05-22 19:43 Han Solo: For the drum
2016-05-22 19:43 Daikyi: (y)
2016-05-22 19:43 Han Solo: Lol
2016-05-22 19:44 Han Solo: 00:18:860 (18860|0,18860|1,18860|2) - Ehhhhhhh
2016-05-22 19:44 Han Solo: I think that's ok?
2016-05-22 19:44 Han Solo: I leave that up to you
2016-05-22 19:44 Han Solo: The rest seems fine imo
2016-05-22 19:44 Daikyi: i'm not compromising on those lol
2016-05-22 19:45 Han Solo: 01:24:360 (84360|1,84360|0,84360|2,84360|3) - Glass quad lol
2016-05-22 19:45 Daikyi: that's just a comment right lol
2016-05-22 19:45 Han Solo: Yea
2016-05-22 19:46 Han Solo: Moving on to Batter Up
2016-05-22 19:46 Han Solo: Prepare for SV nitpicking :^)
2016-05-22 19:46 Daikyi: o
2016-05-22 19:46 Daikyi: wait
2016-05-22 19:46 Daikyi: 01:30:860 (90860|0,90860|3,90860|1,90860|2) -
2016-05-22 19:46 Daikyi: ?
2016-05-22 19:46 Daikyi: opinions?
2016-05-22 19:47 Han Solo: Seems fine
2016-05-22 19:47 Daikyi: playtest it
2016-05-22 19:47 Han Solo: LOL
2016-05-22 19:47 Han Solo: OK NOT
2016-05-22 19:47 Han Solo: But I play with SV 31
2016-05-22 19:47 Han Solo: So that's SV 310 lol
2016-05-22 19:48 Daikyi: lmfao
2016-05-22 19:49 Daikyi: i'm thinking of swapping normal w/ batter up for that SV
2016-05-22 19:49 Daikyi: because the song and file leads you to 100% know that there's going to be a quad at the bat hit
2016-05-22 19:49 Han Solo: Mmh
2016-05-22 19:50 Daikyi: so on batter up, it trolls by stopping
2016-05-22 19:50 Daikyi: might just have that troll on normal, and the 10x sv on batter up lol
2016-05-22 19:50 Han Solo: I wanted to bitch about the SV, since imo you could improve it
2016-05-22 19:50 Han Solo: Like
2016-05-22 19:50 Daikyi: no that's good
2016-05-22 19:50 Han Solo: Why not have it go normal speed so you can see the notes
2016-05-22 19:50 Daikyi: if i can make things better then A+
2016-05-22 19:50 Han Solo: And THEN speed it up
2016-05-22 19:51 Han Solo: Like, there's no way you could sightread it
2016-05-22 19:51 Han Solo: Ever
2016-05-22 19:51 Daikyi: so like a mini teleport i guess
2016-05-22 19:51 Han Solo: Yea
2016-05-22 19:51 Han Solo: I mean, it's not meant to be sightread, but it seems sorta unfair
2016-05-22 19:52 Daikyi: aye
2016-05-22 19:53 Han Solo: Just my 2 cents, I mean
2016-05-22 19:53 Daikyi: ok you can see the quad, but it's still teleporting from like 3/4ths across the playfield lol
2016-05-22 19:53 Han Solo: Mmh
2016-05-22 19:53 Han Solo: Alright then
2016-05-22 19:53 Han Solo: :^)
2016-05-22 19:54 Han Solo: Moving on to Batter Up
2016-05-22 19:55 Han Solo: 00:16:860 (16860|3) - Why not end it at 00:18:360 (18360|0) - or something
2016-05-22 19:55 Han Solo: Like, that mini gap is kinda stupid haha
2016-05-22 19:55 Daikyi: keeping mini gap
2016-05-22 19:55 Daikyi: like that's just a thing i'm keeping lol
2016-05-22 19:56 Han Solo: Alrighty then
2016-05-22 19:56 Daikyi: lol
2016-05-22 19:57 Han Solo: 01:37:360 (97360|1) - That section lol
2016-05-22 19:58 Han Solo: Well, that was the mod, basically
2016-05-22 19:58 Daikyi: lmfao
2016-05-22 19:58 Daikyi: same deal w/ mini holds i think
2016-05-22 19:58 Daikyi: cool

Daikyi

190 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Daikyi 2016-05-22T18:02:56+00:00

things happened

Ciel

170 posts

Joined March 2012

Ciel 2016-06-10T04:21:49+00:00

I can apparently still FC this.

[General]
Fuck this actually.
Did not check: Hitsounds/Metadata

[Patterning]
Batter Up!
00:02:360 - Personally like it when these were rice, but meh.

Normal
01:40:860 - This note is dumb, especially when combined with the SV. You don't every layer the batter before this, and now you are for this one note, which is :/. I only hit this note because of playing this song a bajillion times and searching up the timing.

Easy
01:40:860 - Same as above, but not nearly as stupid without the SV.

[SVs]
Batter Up!
00:32:860 - You might consider making the spacing between notes here follow the actual spacing between beats normally as well? Right now, there's no plausible way to actually play this part without just flat out memorizing it and its not constant rhythm. During SOFT I just closed my eyes during this part because the note placement was impossible to read.
00:40:860 - Maybe do something in this set where you slow down every time you hit a note. For example, I really don't know why you have both the SV at 00:41:360 - and 00:41:453 - as well.
01:30:516 - Peronally I would add the stop SV on either the 1/1 or the 1/2 beat. Right now its kinda stranded in the center of... something, which doesn't make it look nice. Of course, this might be intentional to make this SV difficult.

Normal
SVs in this difficulty are tamer for sure, but they really do lack variety :/. Considering this difficulty does not have all the shit in between the baseball hits, you could consider really fucking with people SV wise during the breaks, like the random beats fuck people who play Rhythm Heaven.
00:32:860 - This one doesn't really work well, since you barely notice the points where the scrolling "freezes". Maybe consider doing a speedup from 0.10x to some higher value, before resetting on 0.10x every beat. This way, the stopping effect is emphasized more.
00:56:860 - This SV is very similar to the one before this, especially on higher scroll speeds. Not sure how you would make this particular one more unique.
01:14:766 - Why this random stop here? If you want the stop to be here, maybe you should make it slightly longer so it can be more emphasized.
01:38:860 - Dumb note ahead woop :<

Finally. Ok time to mod jin's map.

Daikyi

190 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Daikyi 2016-06-10T22:29:45+00:00

Ciel wrote:
I can apparently still FC this.

[General]
Fuck this actually.
Did not check: Hitsounds/Metadata
[Patterning]
Batter Up!
00:02:360 - Personally like it when these were rice, but meh.
just so there's a difference between mapsets
Normal
01:40:860 - This note is dumb, especially when combined with the SV. You don't every layer the batter before this, and now you are for this one note, which is :/. I only hit this note because of playing this song a bajillion times and searching up the timing.
was supposed to be there for consistency, however i forgot to take the SV off of 10x here lmfao
Easy
01:40:860 - Same as above, but not nearly as stupid without the SV.
took it out, only for easy since it's a strange timing
[SVs]

Batter Up!
00:32:860 - You might consider making the spacing between notes here follow the actual spacing between beats normally as well? Right now, there's no plausible way to actually play this part without just flat out memorizing it and its not constant rhythm. During SOFT I just closed my eyes during this part because the note placement was impossible to read.
I just reworked the part, and it feels nicer, albeit easier (oh well)
00:40:860 - Maybe do something in this set where you slow down every time you hit a note. For example, I really don't know why you have both the SV at 00:41:360 - and 00:41:453 - as well.
kinda what i did, but yeah i'm not sure what i was doing there either, so that's cleaned up a little bit
01:30:516 - Peronally I would add the stop SV on either the 1/1 or the 1/2 beat. Right now its kinda stranded in the center of... something, which doesn't make it look nice. Of course, this might be intentional to make this SV difficult.
this is 100% intentional to make the player fuck up if they're playing it by eye and not ear. The whole song has been "4 beats and a quad at the end" and if they haven't figured this out by now then oops on them, not on me

Normal
SVs in this difficulty are tamer for sure, but they really do lack variety :/. Considering this difficulty does not have all the shit in between the baseball hits, you could consider really fucking with people SV wise during the breaks, like the random beats fuck people who play Rhythm Heaven.
00:32:860 - This one doesn't really work well, since you barely notice the points where the scrolling "freezes". Maybe consider doing a speedup from 0.10x to some higher value, before resetting on 0.10x every beat. This way, the stopping effect is emphasized more.
I guess, the normal was meant to be much easier, but yeah i can probably ramp up the SVs. Here i just reversed it so it looks like 4 jumps instead of 4 pauses
00:56:860 - This SV is very similar to the one before this, especially on higher scroll speeds. Not sure how you would make this particular one more unique.
I did a thing and shifted around SVs
01:14:766 - Why this random stop here? If you want the stop to be here, maybe you should make it slightly longer so it can be more emphasized.
fixed
01:38:860 - Dumb note ahead woop :<
fixed earlier
Finally. Ok time to mod jin's map.

tytytyvm

Pope Gadget

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Pope Gadget 2016-06-11T01:23:19+00:00

do i get kd for bg
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Daikyi

190 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Daikyi 2016-06-11T01:49:27+00:00

Meta post

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/QWCT-10065
link to Rhythm Heaven Fever OST (note OST has romanization error and has 3 'n's which should never happen. All other sources list the romanization of the japanese title of the game as "Minna no Rhythm Tengoku")

Disc 3 Bonus track is listed as "BATTING SHOW" (the version without the in game sound effects), or "バッティングショー (Perfect Version)", the version that is used in this map.

when romanized, it says "Battingu sho" with the line above the o, so normally would be romanized as "Batting Show", however the english official translation is "Exhibition Match", as can be seen in the official game upon entering the stage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx2L_epxi4s
As such, the title of the song is "Exhibition Match"
"Batting Show" is included in tags as well

Wikipedia page lists TSUNKU♂ as english, japanese artist name is taken from his wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsunku
TSUNKU in all caps is the proper english romanization

The source is listed as みんなのリズム天国
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/somj/
as the japanese title of the game. Of course, the english is "Rhythm Heaven Fever" so that's included in the tags. Minna no Tengoku as well for the romanization of the japanese title

other misc. links w/ info
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythm_Heaven_Fever
http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/q1 ... XmksSbnduz

background source: http://science-all.com/images/wallpaper ... res-10.jpg

Last edited by Daikyi 2016-06-18T15:31:23+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Kamikaze

2,898 posts

Joined November 2012

Kamikaze 2016-06-17T20:49:29+00:00

Okay, I'm taking this one home

Done an IRC mod, as you can see above we discussed and fixed metadata, fixed BG resolutions, fixed snaps and shields on Batter up and consistency/pattern details across the diffs

chatlog

21:20 -Kamikaze-: hi
21:21 Daikyi: hi
21:21 -Kamikaze-: first things first
21:21 -Kamikaze-: did you upload faster faster alone yet
21:21 -Kamikaze-: o ye you did
21:21 -Kamikaze-: sweet
21:21 Daikyi: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/456186
21:21 Daikyi: with mispelling lmfao
21:21 -Kamikaze-: yea just saw i
21:22 Daikyi: miscapitalization
21:22 -Kamikaze-: nice R
21:22 -Kamikaze-: well you have only one uploaded map in pending so might as well revive and fix lmao
21:22 -Kamikaze-: o you mapped monopole as well
21:22 -Kamikaze-: nice
21:23 Daikyi: not finished
21:23 -Kamikaze-: yea I see
21:23 -Kamikaze-: mega's chart for it is sicc
21:23 *-Kamikaze- is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/795141 cosMo@BousouP - Monopole. (Long Ver.)]
21:23 Daikyi: first project using only o!m editor
21:23 Daikyi: yeah i have the 6k chart downloaded lol
21:23 -Kamikaze-: good shit
21:24 Daikyi: had it since i started mapping it
21:24 -Kamikaze-: okay, onto the real deal
21:24 -Kamikaze-: http://puu.sh/pwjvx/3b309fe461.jpg
21:24 -Kamikaze-: fuck cache man
21:25 Daikyi: ?
21:25 -Kamikaze-: see how the miniature is still old bg
21:25 Daikyi: oh yeah
21:25 -Kamikaze-: cache ftw
21:25 -Kamikaze-: ok so
21:25 -Kamikaze-: is the men gay sign in the actual official metadata
21:27 Daikyi: it might actually be TSUNKU[gay]
21:27 -Kamikaze-: yea we should recheck that
21:27 Daikyi: i'm checking the official OST
21:27 -Kamikaze-: okay
21:28 -Kamikaze-: Background image is larger than 1366x768.
21:28 Daikyi: fixing that now
21:28 Daikyi: did you mean to send that 5 times
21:28 -Kamikaze-: `kay
21:28 -Kamikaze-: I did send that 5 times
21:29 -Kamikaze-: oh
21:29 Daikyi: ayy
21:29 -Kamikaze-: yes I did
21:29 -Kamikaze-: ai mod
21:29 -Kamikaze-: doesn't lie
21:29 -Kamikaze-: most of the time
21:30 Daikyi: jpg still, or should i save as png
21:30 Daikyi: i actually don't know policy on file type
21:30 -Kamikaze-: okay either way
21:30 Daikyi: image fixed
21:30 -Kamikaze-: doesn't matter that much
21:30 -Kamikaze-: kool
21:30 -Kamikaze-: look at the meta now
21:30 Daikyi: yup
21:30 Daikyi: waiting for file
21:30 -Kamikaze-: and/or send me the link to where you found info
21:31 -Kamikaze-: so I can link it as proof
21:31 Daikyi: oh shit
21:31 Daikyi: there's a thing
21:31 Daikyi: hang on
21:32 Daikyi: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/QWCT-10065 is the tracklist
21:32 Daikyi: title should be バッティングショー Perfect Version
21:33 -Kamikaze-: right now it's just romanization
21:33 -Kamikaze-: so ye
21:33 -Kamikaze-: change it
21:33 Daikyi: which sucks
21:33 Daikyi: because it turns into "Batting Show Perfect Version"
21:33 -Kamikaze-: well
21:33 Daikyi: hang on
21:33 -Kamikaze-: it doesn't have to be a literal translation
21:33 -Kamikaze-: if there is an official translation
21:34 -Kamikaze-: that can be even a screen from the actual game
21:34 -Kamikaze-: as proof
21:34 Daikyi: there is an official
21:34 Daikyi: the previous bg
21:34 -Kamikaze-: but you'd have to make a post about that
21:34 Daikyi: is the intro screen to the game
21:34 Daikyi: and the name of the song
21:34 Daikyi: つんく♂ is the artist name
21:34 -Kamikaze-: if you can link a video of it for example
21:34 -Kamikaze-: then it'd be cool
21:35 -Kamikaze-: but yeah, adjust the meta and make a post with proofs of meta because you have all the links
21:35 Daikyi: i'll just link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx2L_epxi4s
21:35 Daikyi: take out the parenthesis though
21:36 Daikyi: actually
21:36 -Kamikaze-: I'll dig some more into that hold on
21:36 Daikyi: parenthesis should stay in according to that track list
21:36 Daikyi: [Disc 3] バッティングショー (Perfect Version) [BONUS TRACK]
21:36 -Kamikaze-: yeah
21:37 -Kamikaze-: also not sure if you should use english name of the game as source
21:37 -Kamikaze-: or the japanese original
21:37 -Kamikaze-: which is みんなのリズム天国
21:38 Daikyi: i'll use japanese
21:38 Daikyi: and tag the english
21:38 Daikyi: since jap was original game release
21:38 -Kamikaze-: I'm asking in #nominators right now
21:39 -Kamikaze-: you can add romanizations and other titles to tags btw
21:39 -Kamikaze-: source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythm_Heaven_Fever
21:39 -Kamikaze-: oh there are official websites as well
21:39 -Kamikaze-: how handy
21:40 -Kamikaze-: Much of the music was created by famous Japanese pop music producer TSUNKU♂
21:40 -Kamikaze-: confirmed
21:40 -Kamikaze-: http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/q1 ... XmksSbnduz
21:40 -Kamikaze-: you can add this to sauces
21:40 Daikyi: all caps
21:41 -Kamikaze-: also https://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/somj/
21:41 -Kamikaze-: is that even the right one
21:41 -Kamikaze-: idk
21:41 Daikyi: it is
21:41 -Kamikaze-: I can't into nippon
21:41 Daikyi: so TSUNKU
21:41 Daikyi: not Tsunku
21:42 -Kamikaze-: yup
21:42 -Kamikaze-: lemme know when you're done rechecking stuff and when you have the post with proofs ready
21:45 Daikyi: should i put romanized game name in tags
21:45 -Kamikaze-: yeah
21:45 -Kamikaze-: doesn't hurt
21:45 Daikyi: and batting show
21:45 -Kamikaze-: just recheck if any tags duplicate
21:47 Daikyi: do i also put "no" in tags
21:47 Daikyi: since it's Minna no Rhythm Tengoku
21:47 -Kamikaze-: yea
21:47 -Kamikaze-: if it's aligned with rest of the title it will make sense
21:49 Daikyi: also going to credit the bg source in OP i think
21:50 -Kamikaze-: that's nice
21:50 -Kamikaze-: also you can remove the note about looking for better BG
21:50 Daikyi: posted the thing
21:50 -Kamikaze-: I guess
21:50 -Kamikaze-: lol
21:50 Daikyi: yeah lol
21:51 -Kamikaze-: okay coolio, I can move on to the actual map
21:51 -Kamikaze-: I'll just redl if you updated stuff
21:51 Daikyi: i upd8'd
21:52 -Kamikaze-: wait
21:52 -Kamikaze-: WHY IS ROMANIZED ARTIST NOT IN CAPS
21:52 -Kamikaze-: I mean he's all caps in japan
21:52 Daikyi: it is
21:52 -Kamikaze-: wait
21:52 -Kamikaze-: it is not
21:52 Daikyi: ??????????????
21:52 -Kamikaze-: in the map
21:52 -Kamikaze-: I mean
21:53 -Kamikaze-: oh you nigger
21:53 Daikyi: hang on
21:53 -Kamikaze-: YOU CHANGED META IN ONE DIFF
21:53 Daikyi: ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
21:53 -Kamikaze-: LITERALLY
21:53 Daikyi: ARE YAOSDFUIG ADKLSFJGHQAELRTJKHP
21:53 -Kamikaze-: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
21:53 Daikyi: FUCK ME
21:53 Daikyi: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
22:00 Daikyi: ok
22:00 -Kamikaze-: whew
22:00 Daikyi: stage name is not all caps because game stage name is not all caps etc.
22:00 Daikyi: uploaded fixes
22:00 -Kamikaze-: yea
22:00 Daikyi: i'm an idito
22:00 Daikyi: moving on
22:00 -Kamikaze-: it's a bit weird but w/e
22:00 -Kamikaze-: japan
22:00 -Kamikaze-: redownload #3
22:01 -Kamikaze-: ok aimod has shutten the fuck up
22:01 -Kamikaze-: good
22:01 Daikyi: mapset needs at least one easy/normal diff
22:01 Daikyi: ?????????????gofugurselfaimod
22:02 -Kamikaze-: aimod showed me that on granat I think
22:02 -Kamikaze-: the easiest ranked map in mania
22:02 -Kamikaze-: 00:16:797 (16797|2) - pretty sure this should be a 1/6
22:02 -Kamikaze-: there is a 1/12 flam bout you only mapped two notes of it
22:03 Daikyi: yeah
22:03 Daikyi: i might just put in all the flams to stay consistent
22:03 -Kamikaze-: mhm
22:04 Daikyi: so like http://puu.sh/pwm78/5ac52f78a2.jpg
22:04 -Kamikaze-: I don't really like the 2 32[14] it creates most of the time
22:04 -Kamikaze-: o
22:04 -Kamikaze-: yeah that looks good
22:04 -Kamikaze-: 00:24:797 (24797|2) - same
22:05 Daikyi: already done
22:05 -Kamikaze-: cool
22:05 Daikyi: removing 00:40:735 (40735|0) -
22:05 -Kamikaze-: nice
22:05 -Kamikaze-: 00:32:693 (32693|1) - this is also kind of awkward to hit
22:07 Daikyi: it's a 312[34]
22:07 Daikyi: now
22:07 -Kamikaze-: sounds good
22:07 -Kamikaze-: 01:01:693 (61693|3,61693|2,61860|1,61860|0) - why is this not jacked?
22:08 -Kamikaze-: you have various minijacks in previous sections
22:08 -Kamikaze-: in similar fashion
22:08 Daikyi: yep
22:08 Daikyi: the double kick
22:08 -Kamikaze-: mhm
22:09 -Kamikaze-: 01:12:693 (72693|1) - I think this would flow nicer into the flam if it was on 4th
22:09 -Kamikaze-: so you have 3 4 12[34]
22:11 Daikyi: moving the jump before the hand to a [23] then to have decent hand balance
22:11 Daikyi: otherwise right hand feels a little cluttered
22:11 -Kamikaze-: fair
22:11 -Kamikaze-: 01:29:235 (89235|2,89297|1,89360|0) - this sounds like a 1/6
22:11 -Kamikaze-: there was also one nearly invisible shield but I gotta recheck that
22:13 -Kamikaze-: 00:58:860 (58860|0,58860|3) - yeah it's those
22:13 -Kamikaze-: I have no LN ends on my skin and they look ideally like those
22:14 Daikyi: sounds like 1/12
22:14 Daikyi: wait
22:14 Daikyi: 1/6 yes lmfao
22:14 Daikyi: i'm considering ditching the shields and just have the pseudoquad
22:15 -Kamikaze-: hmm
22:15 -Kamikaze-: psuedo quad as in LN ends + 2 notes?
22:15 Daikyi: yes
22:15 Daikyi: or 1 LN end and 3 notes
22:15 Daikyi: like the normal diff
22:15 -Kamikaze-: yeah that sounds alright
22:15 Daikyi: i'll fix all of them
22:16 -Kamikaze-: it removes a bit of the gimmickness but at the same time it really is almost unreadable for most
22:16 -Kamikaze-: as in overlapping
22:17 Daikyi: also i'm making sure to not fuck up hitsounds
22:17 -Kamikaze-: oki
22:17 Daikyi: 01:22:693 (82693|1) - i'm not changing
22:18 Daikyi: or the ending shield
22:18 Daikyi: s
22:18 Daikyi: or 01:24:360 (84360|1,84360|0,84360|2,84360|3) -
22:18 -Kamikaze-: yeah that's fine
22:18 -Kamikaze-: also it does not share the overlapping issue lmao
22:19 Daikyi: i changed the other ones just to keep consistency though
22:19 -Kamikaze-: cool beans
22:19 -Kamikaze-: I'm not going to be nitpicky about the patterns in between gimmicks
22:19 -Kamikaze-: they are okay
22:20 -Kamikaze-: and it's 120 1/3
22:20 -Kamikaze-: so '_>'
22:20 Daikyi: ?
22:20 Daikyi: oh
22:20 Daikyi: yeah
22:20 -Kamikaze-: it's so slow that anything works really
22:20 -Kamikaze-: lol
22:21 -Kamikaze-: I can actually ask tidek to playtest it, he's into slow stuff
22:21 -Kamikaze-: but update first
22:21 Daikyi: aite
22:27 Daikyi: it's upd8d
22:27 -Kamikaze-: yeah he's playing it
22:27 -Kamikaze-: 2nd try now
22:27 -Kamikaze-: le
22:27 Daikyi: did he fail
22:27 -Kamikaze-: nope
22:27 -Kamikaze-: he still remembers SV from SOFT
22:28 -Kamikaze-: http://puu.sh/pwnIn/594acd3232.jpg
22:28 -Kamikaze-: the ratio
22:28 -Kamikaze-: lmao
22:29 -Kamikaze-: tidek says it's perfectly fine and flows even nicer than before
22:29 -Kamikaze-: so it's all good
22:29 Daikyi: yey
22:32 -Kamikaze-: ok, normal
22:32 -Kamikaze-: you can accent crashes like 00:04:860 - with triples
22:33 -Kamikaze-: since you're using doubles frequently anyway
22:34 -Kamikaze-: 00:16:026 - in spots like these where you have that other sound (I think it's pitcher throwing the ball or something), you can add a note here and it will feel natural to have a more constant beat here
22:35 Daikyi: aiite
22:35 Daikyi: i think that makes sense, fixing both for whole duration of the song
22:36 Daikyi: so should things like 00:12:860 (12860|3,12860|0) - and
22:36 Daikyi: 00:16:360 (16360|1,16360|0) - be triples as well
22:36 -Kamikaze-: yeah
22:36 -Kamikaze-: sounds good
22:38 -Kamikaze-: rest looks good, I'll recheck it at later date along with HS (possibly tomorrow)
22:39 -Kamikaze-: will gloss over easy now
22:39 -Kamikaze-: btw batter up diff has 690 objects
22:39 -Kamikaze-: :^)
22:40 Daikyi: ayyyy
22:41 Daikyi: hang on
22:41 Daikyi: forcing one jump into hand minijack is probably ok in normal
22:41 -Kamikaze-: at that speed it should be fine yea
22:41 -Kamikaze-: it's like 80 bpm 1/4
22:42 Daikyi: last 2 have forced minijacks so *shrug*
22:42 -Kamikaze-: w00p
22:42 -Kamikaze-: ok easy
22:42 -Kamikaze-: 00:40:360 (40360|2,40860|2) - would recommend one of those to be placed on col 1
22:43 -Kamikaze-: may feel awkward for beginners to hit
22:43 Daikyi: changes post'd to normal
22:43 Daikyi: [14] probably better than split
22:43 Daikyi: than [24] or [13] split
22:43 -Kamikaze-: yeap
22:47 Daikyi: tyty for the czech
22:48 -Kamikaze-: kool beanz
22:48 -Kamikaze-: I'll post the log for now, remind me in near distant future to recheck stuff, mostly hitsounds

I'll be back to recheck HS and we should be good to go then!

Daikyi

190 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Daikyi 2016-06-18T15:28:27+00:00

(just as a reminder) in addition to the previous mod, when we do the followup check on hitsounds, kami, i also want to ask about kiai, i feel like it's mostly unneeded, but the very last phrase might warrant kiai. not too sure though

no kiai, map and things happenedededed

Kamikaze

2,898 posts

Joined November 2012

Kamikaze 2016-06-20T18:32:38+00:00

Went through a troublesome pattern in Batter Up! one rhythm inconsistency and hitsound files (trimmed a bit of the endings)

log

19:37 -Kamikaze-: hello admiral
19:37 -Kamikaze-: o7
19:39 Daikyi: o7
19:40 -Kamikaze-: give me a moment I gotta shoo someone away
19:41 Daikyi: lol
19:46 -Kamikaze-: okay so I played this map a bit today
19:46 -Kamikaze-: and everything was gucci
19:46 Daikyi: o
19:46 -Kamikaze-: except for one part where I got either 50 or a miss
19:46 -Kamikaze-: 5 plays in a row
19:46 Daikyi: lool
19:46 Daikyi: where
19:47 -Kamikaze-: looking for that place hold on
19:47 -Kamikaze-: 01:12:526 (72526|2,72693|3,72776|0,72818|1,72860|2,72860|3,73026|0,73328|1) -
19:47 -Kamikaze-: this is ass to play with that SV lmao
19:47 -Kamikaze-: it may've been me mindblocked tho
19:48 -Kamikaze-: I can ask someone to try it out a couple of times and see if he misses
19:50 -Kamikaze-: kk asked sitek
19:50 -Kamikaze-: if he gets it fine then I'm retarded
19:50 -Kamikaze-: and the pattern's fine
19:51 -Kamikaze-: I was thinking about reversing the 1/6 tho and making a buildup like 4 3 21 [43] and then on sv first note on 2
19:52 Daikyi: hmm
19:52 -Kamikaze-: hmm, he got 2x50 on first play
19:53 -Kamikaze-: it's a pretty awkward transition from 12 to 1 considering that it's on SV
19:53 -Kamikaze-: it kinda overlaps on reading
19:54 -Kamikaze-: if you get what I mean
19:54 Daikyi: it feels perfectly fine to me
19:54 -Kamikaze-: well, idk
19:54 -Kamikaze-: I got 50s and misses there every play
19:54 Daikyi: it's the most space i would have been able to give it
19:54 -Kamikaze-: sitek also did 2 times in a row
19:55 Daikyi: and outer lanes i think are much easier to perceive the SV gap than having the first SV note on the 2
19:55 -Kamikaze-: and well, you're not only really good at SVs but it's your maps so you can play it blind prob lol
19:55 Daikyi: it honestly might be roll direction preference
19:55 -Kamikaze-: well
19:55 Daikyi: the overarching pattern is basically 412341
19:56 Daikyi: and you're suggesting [4]321432
19:56 -Kamikaze-: it's moreso the fact that 12 1 get easily messed up in reading imo
19:56 Daikyi: have you tried switching it up and testing
19:56 -Kamikaze-: I did not (yet)
19:57 -Kamikaze-: I'll actually ask sitek to test it like that hold on
19:59 -Kamikaze-: http://puu.sh/pzEoy/06a37f5d7b.png
19:59 -Kamikaze-: what do you think
20:00 -Kamikaze-: (I may have messed one snap up, just columns)
20:00 Daikyi: ohhh wait
20:00 Daikyi: i'd like to keep the notes during the LNs as 121
20:00 Daikyi: because kick-snare-kick
20:00 -Kamikaze-: hmm
20:01 -Kamikaze-: how about ctrl+j on 01:12:193 (72193|2,72360|3,72526|2,72693|3) -
20:03 -Kamikaze-: or ctrl+j on 01:12:776 (72776|0,72818|1) -
20:04 -Kamikaze-: I think that minijack might actually be easier to read
20:04 -Kamikaze-: on sv
20:07 Daikyi: it plays exactly the same as before to me lol
20:07 Daikyi: ctrl+j on the first 4 notes
20:07 Daikyi: keeping the flam like that for PR stuff
20:07 -Kamikaze-: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
20:07 -Kamikaze-: with flam reversed sitek got 2x200 instead of 2x50
20:07 Daikyi: lol
20:08 -Kamikaze-: actually with both things I mentioned
20:08 -Kamikaze-: so with this http://puu.sh/pzF2i/cbb9eb0e1b.png
20:09 -Kamikaze-: turns out that minijack isreally easier to read
20:09 -Kamikaze-: and memorize
20:09 Daikyi: alright
20:09 Daikyi: changed over to that
20:10 -Kamikaze-: ah sitek says that reversing flam is enough but I don't think it matters that much anyway
20:10 -Kamikaze-: whole reversed looks more coherent imo
20:10 -Kamikaze-: okay so that's it when it comes to playability
20:10 -Kamikaze-: lol
20:11 Daikyi: then i might unreverse the prev pattern
20:11 Daikyi: because [124] triple looks better than a [123]
20:11 -Kamikaze-: alrighty
20:11 Daikyi: cool
20:11 Daikyi: updated
20:12 -Kamikaze-: looking through hs now
20:14 -Kamikaze-: oh wait, forgot about one thing
20:14 -Kamikaze-: 00:16:026 - notes for sounds like this
20:14 -Kamikaze-: I thought they are present in this diff
20:14 -Kamikaze-: xD
20:16 Daikyi: lmfao
20:16 Daikyi: i fixed for the normal
20:16 -Kamikaze-: yeah
20:16 Daikyi: just hit up batter up
20:17 -Kamikaze-: I mentioned it in normal but didn't notice lack of them in batter up
20:17 -Kamikaze-: top banter
20:17 Daikyi: top qeq
20:17 -Kamikaze-: top quebec
20:18 Daikyi: ok those are ficksd
20:18 -Kamikaze-: kool
20:18 -Kamikaze-: hitsounds are A-OK
20:18 -Kamikaze-: gotta recheck the files now
20:18 Daikyi: all uploaded and updated
20:21 -Kamikaze-: 2 or 3 hs files have like 10 ms of silence at the end, but it's a matter of few kb so doesn't really matter
20:21 -Kamikaze-: and doesn't mess with anything
20:21 Daikyi: i can fix those real quick too
20:21 -Kamikaze-: if you want to go ahead
20:22 -Kamikaze-: shid I should make some kind of post for the narrow minded possible stepmeme species
20:22 -Kamikaze-: that will go "WTF IS DIS SV?????ASFpAJEIPOFGEAJHTGIOEAHGUIOEAHTGAUEITFG kys"
20:24 Daikyi: be like
20:24 Daikyi: "WTF IS DIS SV SO HARD WAHTOIHALGKJREALGKJARIOEGJ ok bubbled"
20:24 -Kamikaze-: lmao
20:24 -Kamikaze-: man I should
20:24 Daikyi: ok
20:24 Daikyi: that's upd8
20:24 -Kamikaze-: http://puu.sh/pzG3J/810eb780d8.jpg
20:24 Daikyi: ed
20:25 Daikyi: i did see that
20:27 -Kamikaze-: okay, making a post
20:27 -Kamikaze-: will savelog now

Just a few words before I declare this ready:

This map is a statement. This is a statement that hardcore SV maps CAN and SHOULD get ranked. If a map is competently made and within the boundaries of rhythmical reason (pretty much pls no dumperino), while also abiding ranking criteria (as in no unrankable gimmicks and hitsounds present) there is absolutely nothing stopping it from getting ranked.
Maps do not have to be sightreadable to be rankable, this is a really narrow minded and stupid stigma that's been going around the community for far too long.
Granted, if you have a standard JS map or something along those lines, you do not want to have crazy teleports inbetween, but that also falls into not "competently done", because of the structural inconsistency (talking about standard/generic charts having extraordinary gimmicks out of nowhere).
PS. If someone brings up maps like smooooch, brynhildr, monster or whatever else as an example that SVs are bad - those maps are pretty much ruined by patterns, not SVs.

Ok, enough rambling, let's get this started. Bubbled!
EDTI: moved to pending oops

XeoStyle

390 posts

Joined October 2013

XeoStyle 2016-06-20T18:47:51+00:00

ok trumpet cool rank pls mmmmmmm good sv hehehehehe tutututu yes

mijkolsmith

297 posts

Joined April 2014

mijkolsmith 2016-06-20T18:56:35+00:00

whathafucc

Julie

1,416 posts

Joined March 2013

Julie 2016-06-20T20:38:39+00:00

irc log

2016-06-20 14:43 Daikyi: ACTION is watching [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/905136 TSUNKU - Exhibition Match (Perfect Version) [Batter Up!]] <osu!mania> |4K|
2016-06-20 14:47 Julie: 00:05:485 (5485|0) - hmm isn't this supose to be 1/6 too?
2016-06-20 14:47 Julie: at 00:05:526 -
2016-06-20 14:47 Daikyi: what in the fuck
2016-06-20 14:47 Julie: LOL
2016-06-20 14:47 Daikyi: how did that get unsnapped
2016-06-20 14:47 Daikyi: lmfao
2016-06-20 14:47 Julie: get gud you and kami :^)
2016-06-20 14:48 Julie: jk jk
2016-06-20 14:48 Daikyi: "don't steal my secretary"
2016-06-20 14:48 Daikyi: "you and kami"
2016-06-20 14:48 Daikyi: gg
2016-06-20 14:51 Julie: by the way, don't wait for me since I might be long, you can go play, I'll just copy pasta here anything I find xD
2016-06-20 14:53 Julie: 00:16:360 - in normal, is it ok to separate that 00:16:360 (16360|0) - whistle and clap, and put it on 00:16:360 (16360|2) - , since you don't have any normal-hit only on [Batter Up!]
2016-06-20 14:55 Daikyi: ah that was because there used to not be triples on the cymbal crashes
2016-06-20 14:55 Daikyi: i'm going to go through and compare to batter up for those
2016-06-20 14:55 Julie: oki

2016-06-20 14:56 Julie: then I'll ignore those stuff?
2016-06-20 14:57 Daikyi: yes
2016-06-20 14:57 Daikyi: i can cover all the triple stuff
2016-06-20 14:57 Julie: cool
2016-06-20 14:58 Daikyi: except for 01:36:360 (96360|3,96360|2,96360|1) - where batter up also has a soft normal
2016-06-20 14:59 Daikyi: also 01:36:860 (96860|2) - on normal is only a clap, no finish
2016-06-20 14:59 Daikyi: i can update now w/ fixes
2016-06-20 15:00 Julie: niice
2016-06-20 15:00 Daikyi: ok that's updated
2016-06-20 15:00 Julie: okiii
2016-06-20 15:03 Julie: 00:34:693 (34693|1) - have the same sound as 00:34:360 - , feel like a soft-hitnormal is kinda too soft no? when they drum is pretty clear here as well
2016-06-20 15:04 Julie: since the soft-hitnormal is pretty loud as well
2016-06-20 15:04 Julie: it feel like a hithat sound before the this 00:34:693 (34693|1) -
2016-06-20 15:05 before this 00:34:860 - * (wrong copy pasta)
2016-06-20 15:07 Daikyi: mhm
2016-06-20 15:07 Daikyi: put on a drum hitwistle
2016-06-20 15:07 Daikyi: (the kick drum)
2016-06-20 15:08 Daikyi: onto 00:34:693 (34693|1) -
2016-06-20 15:23 Julie: 01:13:328 (73328|1) - how did this got onto a 1/16?
2016-06-20 15:23 Julie: I clearly hear it here 01:13:360 - O.O
2016-06-20 15:24 Julie: the clap hitsound go way to earlier then the actual drum sound
2016-06-20 15:24 Daikyi: yeah it fits better on 01:13:360 (73360|1) -
2016-06-20 15:24 Daikyi: (fix'd)
2016-06-20 15:24 Julie: cooool

2016-06-20 15:30 Julie: 01:21:818 (81818|0) - same for here the hitsound go way earlier then the actual drum sound
2016-06-20 15:30 Daikyi: fixed
2016-06-20 15:41 Julie: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/959464 TSUNKU - Exhibition Match (Perfect Version) [Normal]]
2016-06-20 15:41 Julie: 00:23:860 (23860|2) - I think you wanted to put addition Normal
2016-06-20 15:41 Julie: instead of Drum xD
2016-06-20 15:41 Daikyi: yes
2016-06-20 15:41 Daikyi: that's fixed x3
2016-06-20 15:41 Julie: neat x3
2016-06-20 15:53 Julie: hey daiyaki
2016-06-20 15:53 Daikyi: hi
2016-06-20 15:53 Julie: don't you think some SV on Normal might be a bit too fast?
2016-06-20 15:53 Julie: just some
2016-06-20 15:53 Daikyi: which ones
2016-06-20 15:53 Julie: 01:30:860 -
2016-06-20 15:54 Daikyi: no
2016-06-20 15:54 Daikyi: not that one haha
2016-06-20 15:54 Julie: 01:06:860 -
2016-06-20 15:54 Daikyi: the song is structured so that you know that exactly 4 beats after silence, the quad is coming
2016-06-20 15:56 Daikyi: 1:06 i can make better
2016-06-20 15:57 Julie: is your choice, I'm not forcing, is just I think it might be a bit too hard for NM player xD
2016-06-20 15:57 Daikyi: yeah
2016-06-20 15:57 Daikyi: i agree
2016-06-20 15:57 Daikyi: i have an idea of how to fix it though to make it better
2016-06-20 16:02 Julie: when is done tell me

2016-06-20 16:03 Julie: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/959623 TSUNKU - Exhibition Match (Perfect Version) [Easy]]
2016-06-20 16:04 Daikyi: ok
2016-06-20 16:04 Julie: 00:08:860 (8860|3) - Put dat clap cool sound there
2016-06-20 16:04 Daikyi: uploaded that version too if you want to see the new 1:06
2016-06-20 16:04 Julie: oki coool

2016-06-20 16:06 Julie: okii better >w<
2016-06-20 16:06 Julie: 00:08:860 (8860|3) - check above~
2016-06-20 16:06 Julie: soft/ normal / clap
2016-06-20 16:06 Daikyi: on easy?
2016-06-20 16:06 Julie: yep x3
2016-06-20 16:07 Daikyi: i left out throwing hitsounds
2016-06-20 16:07 Daikyi: on easy
2016-06-20 16:07 Daikyi: because a lot of the time they're not layered in
2016-06-20 16:07 Julie: hmm that part would make sense
2016-06-20 16:07 Julie: okii~ xD
2016-06-20 16:15 Julie: metadata is all confirm I guess
2016-06-20 16:15 Julie: from that post you did
2016-06-20 16:15 Julie: imma redownload
2016-06-20 16:15 Julie: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/905136 TSUNKU - Exhibition Match (Perfect Version)]
2016-06-20 16:18 Julie: uncheck widescreen support in Easy and Normal
2016-06-20 16:19 Daikyi: kk
2016-06-20 16:19 Daikyi: done
2016-06-20 16:22 Julie: 01:14:174 - 01:14:340 - is normal that they are unsnap? (green line)
2016-06-20 16:22 Julie: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/905136 TSUNKU - Exhibition Match (Perfect Version) [Batter Up!]]
2016-06-20 16:22 Julie: if is on purpose
2016-06-20 16:25 Julie: Also in normal
2016-06-20 16:25 Julie: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/959464 TSUNKU - Exhibition Match (Perfect Version) [Normal]]
2016-06-20 16:25 Julie: nvm normal is on purpose XD
2016-06-20 16:26 Daikyi: yeah that's on purpose
2016-06-20 16:26 Julie: oki, welp I don't have any issue to point out
2016-06-20 16:28 Daikyi: updating w/ the widescreen unchecked then

Scored!

Daikyi

190 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Daikyi 2016-06-20T20:43:43+00:00

HOME RUN

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2016-06-20T20:48:50+00:00

good stuff, i really enjoy this map cause its easy enough to where a noob like me can play without having to go play harder maps

gj <:

lemonguy

548 posts

Joined July 2014

lemonguy 2016-06-21T00:00:59+00:00

This is amazing
I like this boatguy

Akasha-

Nomination Assessment Team

4,418 posts

Joined April 2013

Akasha- 2016-06-21T05:39:22+00:00

what the ...

but nah, looks fine to me
congratulations

IamKwaN

osu! Alumni

3,905 posts

Joined August 2012

IamKwaN 2016-06-21T06:00:05+00:00

isn't バッティングショー romanised as Batting Show? That translation is for the song or the stage? personally i am fine with both

but the composer uses only つんく without the symbol in the CD actually

Kamikaze

2,898 posts

Joined November 2012

Kamikaze 2016-06-21T06:44:31+00:00

As explained on previous page, batting show is the literal translation, but we used a official translation taken from the game (the song and the stage have same titles btw). Unsure about the symbol tho, will wait for Dai to confirm

Lanturn

osu! Alumni

3,912 posts

Joined March 2012

Lanturn 2016-06-21T07:17:19+00:00

my two cents. CDJapan, Wikipedia, aren't really official sources, so its better to look elsewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvChMFeOvRQ (credits at the end for Japanese version)

Symbol is fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNnMbqQQ8tA (in the credits at 33 secs) There are sites in full caps like: http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/q1 ... XmksSbnduz and his official homepage so all in all, the full caps and lower-case shouldn't matter. Tsunku or TSUNKU are both official enough.

Eh. Just because a minigame has a different title in the English version, doesn't mean the actual track name is changed. Also, you're using the song directly from the Japanese CD anyways according to the file info. Is there a Sound Test or something that uses Exhibition Match as the title? IDK, up to KwaN I guess. I'd personally change it to Batting Show, and put Exhibition Match in the tags.

Regardless, acccording to KwaN's screenshot, unless there's an english track listing (Sound test?) that proves otherwise, the parenthesis shouldn't be in the title.

*hides*

Also, is there a reason for the 15% volume in normal at 01:04:859 - , while Easy/Batter up use the same hitsounds and such and are at 50/51%?

puxtu

2,926 posts

Joined August 2013

puxtu 2016-06-21T11:27:42+00:00

what the actual fuck those svs

Daikyi

190 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Daikyi 2016-06-21T13:17:31+00:00

Lanturn wrote:
Eh. Just because a minigame has a different title in the English version, doesn't mean the actual track name is changed. Also, you're using the song directly from the Japanese CD anyways according to the file info. Is there a Sound Test or something that uses Exhibition Match as the title? IDK, up to KwaN I guess. I'd personally change it to Batting Show, and put Exhibition Match in the tags.

Regardless, acccording to KwaN's screenshot, unless there's an english track listing (Sound test?) that proves otherwise, the parenthesis shouldn't be in the title.

*hides*

Also, is there a reason for the 15% volume in normal at 01:04:859 - , while Easy/Batter up use the same hitsounds and such and are at 50/51%?

The minigame (I just checked physically) have "Exhibition Match Theme" listed in the sound test also

I will need the dq for the 15% volume - i was messing around with SVs in the normal and i think the volume got messed up there. There's also a potential unsnapped note that's being really confusing in the batter up (i don't see it locally, but others have pointed it out) that I need to fix as well

IamKwaN wrote:
isn't バッティングショー romanised as Batting Show? That translation is for the song or the stage? personally i am fine with both

but the composer uses only つんく without the symbol in the CD actually

Also another meta issue would be whether to have parenthesis in the title as well surrounding "Perfect Version" if that's what it is on the CD

Last edited by Daikyi 2016-06-21T13:26:25+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Daikyi

190 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Daikyi 2016-06-21T13:26:00+00:00

(oops)

Last edited by Daikyi 2016-06-21T13:26:45+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Deif

Elite Mapper / osu!catch Paragon

3,564 posts

Joined April 2010

Deif 2016-06-21T13:26:21+00:00

You can fix it now. Good luck!

Daikyi

190 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Daikyi 2016-06-21T13:34:58+00:00

ok picked out the unsnapped note in the batter up difficulty

removed parenthesis in the title, as shown on the CD

volume is 50% across all hitsounds

fugged the thing

did the work

bat the ball

*crack*

Julie

1,416 posts

Joined March 2013

Julie 2016-06-21T13:41:52+00:00

OSU FIX THIS LOLOLOL

edit :
01:04:859 - / 01:04:860 - osu broked this stanza wwww

Last edited by Julie 2016-06-21T13:45:35+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Daikyi

190 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Daikyi 2016-06-21T13:43:07+00:00

HOW

HOW IS 1/4 and 1/6 FOR THE 1/1 LINE DIFFERENT SNAPS

WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Harbyter

Beatmap Nominator

1,372 posts

Joined October 2011

Harbyter 2016-06-21T15:39:02+00:00

Daikyi wrote:
HOW

HOW IS 1/4 and 1/6 FOR THE 1/1 LINE DIFFERENT SNAPS

WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

lol

Izzz

265 posts

Joined July 2015

Izzz 2016-06-21T18:22:06+00:00

I like this chart because I'm bad at mania but like SVs

Surono

7,196 posts

Joined November 2013

Surono 2016-06-21T18:48:32+00:00

euheuehueheuhe Funny maps, ty mapper. idc this rank or not. <3
oh i see, this problem not the map?!?! kekness. hope ranked <3

IamKwaN

osu! Alumni

3,905 posts

Joined August 2012

IamKwaN 2016-06-22T03:05:00+00:00

Except that symbol thingy in the Unicode Artist, I have nothing to add to what Lanturn has brought up.

Well, the artist uses つんく as his display name in this album, even though an artist may have a different English display name or some other aliases, we should follow to avoid any dispute.

For example, ゆいこんう, also known as Primary and yuiko. Following what the artist uses themselves should be of the greatest priority.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/390619
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/429220
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/446085

My priority goes to Batting Show too, the reason has already been mentioned by Lanturn.

So, my conclusion of metadata on this map is:

Unicode Title: バッティングショー Perfect Version
Romanised Title: Batting Show Perfect Version
Unicode Artist: つんく
Romanised Artist: TSUNKU
Source: みんなのリズム天国

I hope you understand what I mean, poke me if you still need my assistance.
Good luck for re-qualification!

Daikyi

190 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Daikyi 2016-06-22T03:13:53+00:00

as much as it feels weird, it's probably right. fixed in next update, gonna poke kami and julie asap

thanks much kwan!

Julie

1,416 posts

Joined March 2013

Julie 2016-06-22T04:17:53+00:00

p/5249606

my mods was there xP

Kamikaze