tyom wrote:

SPOILER

02:21:046 IMO I think the use of squares would be much better here, but make them go square-diamond-square-diamond pattern
02:31:262 Squares could be used here again
Some of your combos go past 10, try aiming for 6-9 on combo.
03:29:193 Again with the back-forth jumps, where i'd see a great use of squares. The squares would work here especially because 03:31:262 - 03:33:331 uses squares, would make that entire section consistent.
These same square and pattern related things occur later in the song but I think you get the idea from what i've currently addressed.

I really like squares and polygons and sliders, I like the polygon and star jumps but the backwards and forwards jumps make the map at some parts look ugly, just at those parts though. The rest of the map is great. This is just my opinion.

Pokoulie wrote:

amazing map.

monstrata wrote:

Fixed up some snapping issues. Lets get this rebubbled!

Natsu wrote:

Lets try again!

Aiceo wrote:

I'm sorry to be rude but, what the actual fuck is this?

Raiden wrote:

Aiceo wrote:

I'm sorry to be rude but, what the actual fuck is this?

a map

no problem mate, anytime

such joke dogeden wowowowowwo

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  rhythm selection

1. alright this section here 00:47:841 - seems to switch downbeats around by 1 1/2 every few measures.
   00:48:734 (1) - here you seem to emphasize it well, (here it switches 1 1/2 back) but the next few are wrong:
   00:49:755 (6) - this note is much stronger yet unemphasized
   00:50:649 (3) - this slider here.. it ends on the downbeat and is unclickable, along with having no hitsounds, then there's a circle right after it that stole the actual downbeats finisher hitsound 00:50:904 (4) -
   next two at 00:51:926 - and 00:52:839 - are fine, but lack of emphasis repeats on 00:53:882 (3) - yet again.
   00:58:020 (1) - ^
   01:01:124 (5) - ^, but this one also lacks a finish hitsound and 01:01:253 (6) - for some reason has one.
   00:56:856 (1) - this sliderhead isnt the strong sound here, the end of it is which is, again, unclickable and unhitsounded.
   00:58:925 (3) - ^
   01:20:917 - same applies to this section
   02:43:676 - first problem i noticed in the 3rd section was here, missing a finish hitsound, then the next downbeat here 02:44:451 (1) - is unclickable etc.
   also, for these sections, change the NCs to fit the "new" downbeats because right now they're literally random from what i see. for example why is this 00:50:011 - nc'd? move it to 00:49:755 (6) - and so on.
   
2. next up we have this section 01:04:625 - it seems to heavily focus on vocals and i guess that's okay, but it has this little outro/intro into the next section that would feel better with 01:18:848 (1) - 01:19:365 (3) - these being converted to 2 circles because the guitar riff suggests 3 clicks (3 strong sounds with the last one extended = 1/2 or 3/4 slider). you do it here successfully 01:43:676 - . 02:02:296 - in this section you randomly decide to focus on the vocals after mapping the guitar riffs which obviously stand out the most here 2 times, i do NOT understand why. highly suggest making it consistent and actually follow the instrument that is most audible/dominating.
   03:06:434 (1) - ^
   03:49:882 (1) - ^
   
3. 02:27:124 - these sections.. first of all this 02:27:124 (1,2,3,4,5) - obviously isn't 1/4, the only burst in this first section that is 1/4 is this one 02:29:193 (1,2,3,4,5) - , and the one that obviously exposes that the rest are 1/3 is this one 02:30:227 (1) - . you can clearly hear 3 sounds every beat 2 times by the guitar from this one.
   the other object you use in this section is the slider, which is a reverse slider 02:27:641 (6) - . first of all, it does not have any sound at all on any of the reverse arrows. secondly, both sounds are of equal strength which suggests you to use something that would require sufficient force for each.. yes, those are either 2 circles or 2 1/2 sliders, but 1/2 sliders wont fit here as there are no other sounds there and the primary target (the bass drum) isn't an extended sound, that's why circles fit the best.
   04:15:227 (6,7) - here it's done right, but the previous burst is supposed to be 1/3 (this one 04:14:710 (1,2,3,4,5) - ) and it only repeats once here, the following beat is 1/2 meaning that it needs a note which is clearly audible and strong here 04:15:098 - and so on.
   04:39:796 (5,6,7) - here it's done perfectly (!), except for the fact that this burst isn't 1/3 04:39:538 (1,2,3,4,5) - but luckily that's easy to fix
   
4. 02:51:111 - this triple is very audible, even a 1/4 slider covering it would be good, or just make it a full triple since the stronger sound in this 2 note guitar riff is the second one, meaning it would support the second extended note (02:51:176 (4) - ) well.
   
5. 03:16:779 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is definitely 1/3
   03:17:296 (9,10,11,12) - seems like 1/2s but meh keep them as 1/4 sliders since flute sounds are kinda extended
   03:17:813 (1,2,3,4,5) - 1/3
   03:18:071 (5) - the rest from here looks like http://puu.sh/m5Xe8/084319064c.jpg
   03:25:055 (1) - also 1/3, most easy to tell from the first 4 notes here 03:25:055 (1,2,3,4,5) - (they're actually 5 now because its 1/4 not 1/3)
   also asked mr. pishifat to check it http://puu.sh/m5XrG/b14eb2a0ab.png
   
6. 03:32:038 (4) - shouldn't be a slider, make 2 circles because 2 strong sounds instead.
   
7. 04:46:522 (1,2,3) - 04:47:815 (7,8) - you cant just follow vocals like that when theres nothing in the background, if youre not removing them at least make the hitsounds really low volume and fit them or something because right now it feels REALLY awkward
   
8. 05:01:610 (1,2) -why is this not a triple, what makes this bass drum hit 05:01:610 (1) - weaker than the one at 05:01:688 - ???

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  timing stuff

1. 04:22:468 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - this isn't even close to being on time. also it has 6 notes not 7
2. 04:48:565 (1) - insufficient timing, goes off when the drummer takes a pause right here 04:49:211 (11) - , meaning everything else after that is off and feels weird. the whole section is really varied since the drummer basically goes rambo mode, i'd suggest using a spinner instead

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  stuff that is weird

1. to begin this, ill mention that this statement http://puu.sh/m5YPf/95cfcd10b0.png infuriates me. ill try to explain why i feel like it right here, now.
   00:47:316 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - what the hell is this. i only hear notes on 00:47:316 (3,4,5) - and 00:47:579 (7,9) - but not the rest.
   01:01:641 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - only notes are here 01:01:641 (1,3,5) -
   01:18:460 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - only 5 notes here, nothing is here 01:18:783 (10) - , although this one isn't as brutal as the other ones and in my opinion supports the song, i'd never do it myself though
   03:49:494 (10) - ^
   01:24:538 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - ... what 01:24:538 (4,5,6,8,10,1) - these are the only sounds that exist
   01:59:710 (9) - this one only has the 1/2s in it, no 1/4s at all. sounds disgusting with those hitsounds covering nothingness
   02:49:431 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - this only has 3 notes in that interval on the song while 8 are mapped 02:49:495 (4,6,1) -
   03:06:046 (5) - only 1/2s in this one again
   04:26:219 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this reminds me of mythologias end, mapping streams to vocals, hell yeah, thats's intuitive to play
   most of these overmaps DO NOT emphasize anything and are just plain annoying to tap, they don't follow anything in the song, they don't help anything in the song to be supported, they're just there.
   if your excuse is that you map the long extended guitar/flute notes as streams, then please, go ahead and ruin the song completely by overmapping these guitar notes, for instance, 01:26:607 (2) - 01:43:288 (6) - 03:47:296 (5) - too! overmapping also needs consistency.
   
2. diff name. is it relevant? if it is, why? it sounds extremely cringey for a song like this. also capitalize every letter or only the first word and nouns, it's random as of now.

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  stuff that looks weird

1. alright well i think majority of mappers would agree with me that these sliders look extremely UNAPPEALING.
   00:01:782 (3) -
   00:03:839 (2) - alright every slider in the intro that is longer than like 1/1 looks ugly.
   00:23:688 (6) - okay this one is an exception, it looks good
   
2. after using grey nodes or simply straight sliders for most of the song after the intro, here you decide red nodes would be a good idea 01:18:848 (1) - . these two 01:19:107 (2) - 01:19:624 (4) - look fine, but these two 01:18:848 (1) - 01:19:365 (3) - just scream "hello 2008" to me. and no, i mean it in the bad way.
   
3. 03:10:055 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - do these 1/3 burst shapes follow anything because they look awful without any reason right now
   
4. 03:25:055 (1) - can you atleast use slider to stream conversion tool when you change these, because right now it looks awful because of the fact it is obviously manually hand-placed with just DS on, which makes it uncircular/uneven everywhere.

Mazzerin wrote:

ok i don't know where to begin maybe you should have begun by posting this before it was qualified
, lets start with hitsounds/green lines for example okay first of all, unless they are kiai times, green lines do not need to be snapped. I pretty much ignored all this but I removed the useless/duplicate lines.

01:04:292 (16) - this really shouldn't have the same hitsound as the rest of the stream, there's no snare drum here, only the guitar 1/4 sound changed

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  rhythm selection

1. alright this section here 00:47:841 - seems to switch downbeats around by 1 1/2 every few measures.
   00:48:734 (1) - here you seem to emphasize it well, (here it switches 1 1/2 back) but the next few are wrong:
   00:49:755 (6) - this note is much stronger yet unemphasized I'm focusing on the big stringed instrument here. Emphasizing the (rather faint) cymbalish sound would be confusing. I used a circle to give it proper emphasis (as opposed to a sliderend) but I do not believe it requires to be spaced away.
   00:50:649 (3) - this slider here.. it ends on the downbeat and is unclickable, along with having no hitsounds, then there's a circle right after it that stole the actual downbeats finisher hitsound 00:50:904 (4) - Ah good catch, I didn't notice. Not sure about the pattern now tough.
   next two at 00:51:926 - and 00:52:839 - are fine, but lack of emphasis repeats on 00:53:882 (3) - yet again.
   00:58:020 (1) - ^
   See my reasoning above.
   01:01:124 (5) - ^, but this one also lacks a finish hitsound and 01:01:253 (6) - for some reason has one. oups, added
   00:56:856 (1) - this sliderhead isnt the strong sound here, the end of it is which is, again, unclickable and unhitsounded. I will disagree with this one. I'm not following the drums here. Did you even try to understand that or are you just assuming everything is based on the drums (which I never do) ?
   00:58:925 (3) - ^ ^
   01:20:917 - same applies to this section
   02:43:676 - first problem i noticed in the 3rd section was here, missing a finish hitsound, then the next downbeat here 02:44:451 (1) - is unclickable etc.
   also, for these sections, change the NCs to fit the "new" downbeats because right now they're literally random from what i see. for example why is this 00:50:011 - nc'd? move it to 00:49:755 (6) - and so on. fixed as best I could
   
2. next up we have this section 01:04:625 - it seems to heavily focus on vocals and i guess that's okay I map a lot to the most prominent instrument - often vocals
   but it has this little outro/intro into the next section that would feel better with 01:18:848 (1) - 01:19:365 (3) - these being converted to 2 circles because the guitar riff suggests 3 clicks (3 strong sounds with the last one extended = 1/2 or 3/4 slider). you do it here successfully 01:43:676 - . 02:02:296 - in this section you randomly decide to focus on the vocals after mapping the guitar riffs which obviously stand out the most here 2 times, i do NOT understand why. highly suggest making it consistent and actually follow the instrument that is most audible/dominating. that is a really good idea, im doing that, thank you
   03:06:434 (1) - ^ changed too
   03:49:882 (1) - ^ I won't change this one because I'm (again) following the vocals here with the sliders, and replacing the first slider with two circles feels anticlimatic and weird to me. I'd rather keep what I have right now.
   
   
3. 02:27:124 - these sections.. first of all this 02:27:124 (1,2,3,4,5) - obviously isn't 1/4, the only burst in this first section that is 1/4 is this one 02:29:193 (1,2,3,4,5) - , and the one that obviously exposes that the rest are 1/3 is this one 02:30:227 (1) - . you can clearly hear 3 sounds every beat 2 times by the guitar from this one.
   the other object you use in this section is the slider, which is a reverse slider 02:27:641 (6) - . first of all, it does not have any sound at all on any of the reverse arrows. secondly, both sounds are of equal strength which suggests you to use something that would require sufficient force for each.. yes, those are either 2 circles or 2 1/2 sliders, but 1/2 sliders wont fit here as there are no other sounds there and the primary target (the bass drum) isn't an extended sound, that's why circles fit the best.
   04:15:227 (6,7) - here it's done right, but the previous burst is supposed to be 1/3 (this one 04:14:710 (1,2,3,4,5) - ) and it only repeats once here, the following beat is 1/2 meaning that it needs a note which is clearly audible and strong here 04:15:098 - and so on.
   04:39:796 (5,6,7) - here it's done perfectly (!), except for the fact that this burst isn't 1/3 04:39:538 (1,2,3,4,5) - but luckily that's easy to fix
   Only fixed the wrong snapping. You didn't understand the structure behind these patterns and why the slider slowly turns into circles, and that I am not willing to change.
   
4. 02:51:111 - this triple is very audible, even a 1/4 slider covering it would be good, or just make it a full triple since the stronger sound in this 2 note guitar riff is the second one, meaning it would support the second extended note (02:51:176 (4) - ) well. I heard it but decided to ignore it to again focus on the lead instrument and keep the repeating pattern.
   
5. 03:16:779 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is definitely 1/3
   03:17:296 (9,10,11,12) - seems like 1/2s but meh keep them as 1/4 sliders since flute sounds are kinda extended
   changed
   03:17:813 (1,2,3,4,5) - 1/3
   03:18:071 (5) - the rest from here looks like http://puu.sh/m5Xe8/084319064c.jpg
   made everything 1/3 with sliders for clarity
   03:25:055 (1) - also 1/3, most easy to tell from the first 4 notes here 03:25:055 (1,2,3,4,5) - (they're actually 5 now because its 1/4 not 1/3)
   also asked mr. pishifat to check it http://puu.sh/m5XrG/b14eb2a0ab.png
   this part is actually like really asshole rhythm
   
6. 03:32:038 (4) - shouldn't be a slider, make 2 circles because 2 strong sounds instead. I don't hear it. The way I see it, my rhythm is correct. I don't hear a strong sound at 03:32:167 -
   
7. 04:46:522 (1,2,3) - 04:47:815 (7,8) - you cant just follow vocals like that when theres nothing in the background, if youre not removing them at least make the hitsounds really low volume and fit them or something because right now it feels REALLY awkward ye I thought it was awkward but couldn't come up with a better alternative, I replaced it with a spinner, hopefully that works
   
8. 05:01:610 (1,2) -why is this not a triple, what makes this bass drum hit 05:01:610 (1) - weaker than the one at 05:01:688 - ??? Their volume ?...

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  timing stuff

1. 04:22:468 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - this isn't even close to being on time. also it has 6 notes not 7 fixed
2. 04:48:565 (1) - insufficient timing, goes off when the drummer takes a pause right here 04:49:211 (11) - , meaning everything else after that is off and feels weird. the whole section is really varied since the drummer basically goes rambo mode, i'd suggest using a spinner instead This isn't actually fixable. What Charles did is the best approximation that remains playable. I don't want to change the end for a spinner because I like the rambo end, so I'll keep that.

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  stuff that is weird

1. to begin this, ill mention that this statement http://puu.sh/m5YPf/95cfcd10b0.png infuriates me. ill try to explain why i feel like it right here, now. I'll just ignore this entire section, sorry. I chose the 1/4 to complete and emphasize specific things in the vocals and the drums. While they are technically overmapped I suppose, they go well with the song and the map and actually add to it. I don't usually do this, but in this case, I firmly believe they are good additions.
   
2. diff name. is it relevant? if it is, why? it sounds extremely cringey for a song like this. also capitalize every letter or only the first word and nouns, it's random as of now. It is relevant, fun, and I'm keeping it.

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  stuff that looks weird

1. after using grey nodes or simply straight sliders for most of the song after the intro, here you decide red nodes would be a good idea 01:18:848 (1) - . these two 01:19:107 (2) - 01:19:624 (4) - look fine, but these two 01:18:848 (1) - 01:19:365 (3) - just scream "hello 2008" to me. and no, i mean it in the bad way. removed the red nodes
   
2. 03:10:055 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - do these 1/3 burst shapes follow anything because they look awful without any reason right now yeah they made more sense when i mapped them as 1/4 and wanted to keep the same shape, but I guess I'll change
   
3. 03:25:055 (1) - can you atleast use slider to stream conversion tool when you change these, because right now it looks awful because of the fact it is obviously manually hand-placed with just DS on, which makes it uncircular/uneven everywhere. changed

Mazzerin wrote:

diff name. is it relevant? if it is, why?

Mazzerin wrote:

[*]diff name. is it relevant? if it is, why? it sounds extremely cringey for a song like this. also capitalize every letter or only the first word and nouns, it's random as of now.

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Shiro wrote:

Mazzerin wrote:

00:56:856 (1) - this sliderhead isnt the strong sound here, the end of it is which is, again, unclickable and unhitsounded. I will disagree with this one. I'm not following the drums here. Did you even try to understand that or are you just assuming everything is based on the drums (which I never do) ?

_index wrote:

make it happen

a loli wrote:

provided it looks like a mess, it actually plays very well

Bearizm wrote:

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