1. Antares' Extreme (5,47 stars, 497 notes)
2. Awakening (6,18 stars, 585 notes)
3. Easy (1,49 stars, 111 notes)
4. Extra (4,97 stars, 569 notes)
5. FenzlExtra (4,88 stars, 445 notes)
6. Hard (3,29 stars, 258 notes)
7. Insane (4,01 stars, 403 notes)
8. Normal (2,06 stars, 179 notes)
9. riktoi's Extra (4,86 stars, 390 notes)

riktoi wrote:

IRC MoD

dudududu

22:43 riktoi: hi
22:43 Asonate: hi
22:43 riktoi: so
22:43 riktoi: 01:02:527 (1,1,1,1) - 
22:43 riktoi: more spacing right
22:44 riktoi: 01:15:301 (2,2,2,2,2) - and these replaced with 4/4 sliders
22:44 riktoi: 01:23:043 (2,2) - and these
22:45 riktoi: 01:25:753 (1,1,1) - this could be one reverse slider
22:45 riktoi: the ending should be fine
22:45 Asonate: wait, 4/4 sliders ?
22:46 Asonate: Like to the next "1"
22:46 Asonate: or the next "3"
22:46 riktoi: 01:15:301 (2,3) - 
22:46 riktoi: yeah, like this
22:46 riktoi: for the sliderend to replace 3
22:48 riktoi: 00:37:753 (1,1) - these were pretty confusing
22:48 riktoi: (especially for new players)
22:49 riktoi: it can be really hard for them to keep the flow going after that
22:49 riktoi: so you could try something like
22:49 riktoi: reverse slider -> hitcircle -> reverse slider
22:51 riktoi: uh
22:51 riktoi: did that link those 2 reverse sliders that reverse more than 1 time
22:52 Asonate: im still at before i responded
22:52 Asonate: gimme a bit
22:52 riktoi: yeah, sure
22:54 Asonate: 00:37:753 (1) - this one ?
22:54 Asonate: You linked that
22:54 riktoi: ye
22:54 riktoi: i think i changed my mind with the second one though
22:55 riktoi: but i will still try to experiment
22:55 Asonate: hmm, would it be better if i made it 3 repeat, 3 repeat
22:55 Asonate: like no hitcircle between
22:55 riktoi: yeah
22:55 riktoi: that's great for a easy too
22:56 Asonate: which was the second one ?
22:56 Asonate: I just got the one i linked
22:56 riktoi: 01:36:591 (1) - 
22:56 riktoi: don't think the same pattern works for this one
22:57 riktoi: oh
22:57 Asonate: it might actually
22:57 Asonate: lemme try
22:57 riktoi: that's the last one
22:57 riktoi: there's still more, lemme find those
22:57 Asonate: at the start there is one
22:57 Asonate: 00:02:140 (1) -
22:57 riktoi: ye
22:58 riktoi: i think it works
22:58 riktoi: since the beat is very distinct
22:58 Asonate: made that a 3,3 too
22:58 Asonate: yeah
22:58 Asonate: the 4th beat is a bit quieter
22:58 riktoi: i can feel it withount the red tick too
23:00 Asonate: 01:11:817 (1) - should i redo this one too ?
23:00 Asonate: Or does it fit better here
23:00 Asonate: i kinda like that buildup feel it has
23:00 riktoi: yeah
23:00 riktoi: there's no break in-between like there was between the others
23:01 Asonate: same for the last one then, right
23:01 riktoi: yeah
23:01 riktoi: those are similar

Fenza wrote:

My guest diff FenzlExtra

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146,340,99882,2,0,B|120:345|120:345|87:340,1,48.9999985046387,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
322,124,100269,2,0,B|349:132|349:132|373:158,1,48.9999985046387,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
77,305,100463,2,0,B|47:298|47:298|14:278,1,48.9999985046387,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
377,179,100850,2,0,B|390:201|390:201|395:242,1,48.9999985046387,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,234,101044,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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377,307,102010,2,0,L|342:224,1,52.5000020027161
279,18,102398,2,0,B|275:37|275:37|279:66|279:66|277:99,1,52.5000020027161,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
279,349,102591,1,6,0:0:0:0:

BOUYAAA wrote:

mod

22:44 BOUYAAA: 01:16:656 (2,3,4,5) -
22:44 BOUYAAA: the stream has it's movement starting on blue tick
22:44 Asonate: 00:16:462 (1) - btw, thing these should be 1/4 rather ?
22:45 BOUYAAA: I'd make them 1/4 but imo this doesn't metter
22:45 BOUYAAA: 00:18:785 (7) - this one should extend to red tick though
22:45 BOUYAAA: since sound is hold in the music
22:45 Asonate: wait, this zick-zack stream right ?
22:46 BOUYAAA: the problem is not the stream
22:46 Asonate: because 2 is on a red tick for me
22:46 BOUYAAA: it's the fact that you have a tstack - so bvasically no movement - and then your stream starts moving rly fast
22:46 Asonate: nvm, i get it
22:46 BOUYAAA: starting this spaced stream on blue is dumb
22:47 BOUYAAA: cause blue is very weak so it's like you give huge emphasis on blue tick
22:47 Asonate: do you think making 4 a bit moving is enough ?
22:47 Asonate: id make a slight direction it the stack then, also redo the stream, its ugly imo
22:47 BOUYAAA: you could make spacing increase a bit on each note or something
22:48 BOUYAAA: idk that's your choice
22:48 Asonate: good idea
22:48 BOUYAAA: your spacing is rly huge sometimes
22:48 BOUYAAA: idk what to think about it though since this is your hardest diff
22:48 Asonate: i know, this DS 1.5 one
22:48 BOUYAAA: 01:19:075 (10,11,12,13,14,1) - but this one man
22:48 BOUYAAA: xd
22:49 BOUYAAA: 01:20:720 (12,13,14) - this has the same issue as the stack
22:49 BOUYAAA: 01:20:720 (12) - sharp turn should be here since that's where your strong white tick is
22:49 BOUYAAA: it's not that important though
22:50 BOUYAAA: 01:25:656 (16,1,2,3,4) - I'm pretty sure this will not work either
22:50 Asonate: should be better
22:50 Asonate: actually gonna keep the 01:19 - stream tho
22:51 BOUYAAA: If you have doubts on somthing don't change ye
22:51 Asonate: last one is also gonna stay until i get too many complaint
22:51 Asonate: s*
22:51 Asonate: im more willing to change stuff in the first minute tbh
22:51 BOUYAAA: You'll probably get some ont his one
22:52 Asonate: i' think yeah
22:53 BOUYAAA: 01:25:656 (16,1,2,3,4) - http://puu.sh/l2rKt/80ed7620e1.jpg wouldn't you prefer some kind of smooth transition here?
22:54 Asonate: wait, is the time correct ?
22:54 BOUYAAA: slider direction is not important
22:54 Asonate: thats the back and forth streams for me
22:54 BOUYAAA: where
22:54 BOUYAAA: oh xd
22:54 BOUYAAA: 00:16:075 (1) -
22:55 Asonate: good point, ill move the slider
22:56 BOUYAAA: slider could be pointing down so you keep the sharp angle I guess
22:56 Asonate: 00:28:462 (1,2,3,4,5) - think i should change these ?
22:56 BOUYAAA: I was about ot point this out
22:56 BOUYAAA: this wont work because of spacing
22:56 Asonate: thought so
22:56 BOUYAAA: It'll be mistaken with 1/4 spam
22:56 Asonate: i left much in here which im sure to have to change
22:57 Asonate: but its fine with reduced spacing ?
22:57 Asonate: mainly the 1/8 slider stuff
22:57 BOUYAAA: yes
22:57 BOUYAAA: but reduce it alot
22:57 BOUYAAA: they should probably stack
22:57 Asonate: ill make general ds 1
22:57 Asonate: the circles slightly touch with that
22:58 BOUYAAA: 00:29:624 (7,8) - this is awkward, change it to 1/4 if you want to keep the slider spam
22:58 BOUYAAA: 1/8 doesnt rly make sense here
22:58 Asonate: sure
22:58 BOUYAAA: 00:33:108 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - overmapped xd
22:59 Asonate: i think i just c+p'ed the repeat there xD
22:59 Asonate: then i missheard the violin
22:59 BOUYAAA: ye it goes like 1 2 3 1 2 3
22:59 Asonate: is it 1, pause, triple, pause
22:59 BOUYAAA: if that makes any sense
23:00 BOUYAAA: yes
23:00 Asonate: ok
23:00 Asonate: will make it jumpy triples then
23:00 BOUYAAA: yes this will work
23:00 BOUYAAA: 00:36:979 (6) - you could nc this one too
23:00 BOUYAAA: to make the 1/3 a bit more obvious
23:00 Asonate: wait what
23:01 Asonate: thats a 1/3 stream
23:01 Asonate: woops
23:01 Asonate: oh nvm, being stupid
23:01 BOUYAAA: lol
23:01 Asonate: did the nc
23:02 BOUYAAA: 00:37:366 (1) - careful with extended sliders like that
23:02 BOUYAAA: this one is almost as long as your previous 1/2 sliders
23:03 BOUYAAA: mostly because sv change
23:03 Asonate: is the issue the SV
23:03 Asonate: or just the fact its extended?
23:03 Asonate: if its the latter it might be fine
23:04 BOUYAAA: its more the fact that it's the first time this happens
23:04 BOUYAAA: nothing indicates that
23:04 BOUYAAA: it's probably fine
23:05 BOUYAAA: but keep it in mind in case someone points it out again
23:05 Asonate: i will
23:05 BOUYAAA: 00:45:882 - i think I already pointed the missing circle out
23:05 Asonate: i fixed that already yeah
23:06 BOUYAAA: but ye there shouldn't even be a triple here imo
23:06 BOUYAAA: 00:43:946 (1,2,3,4) - this will get pointed out too
23:07 BOUYAAA: notice how 00:43:946 (1,2) - and 00:44:333 (3,4) - have the same spacing
23:07 BOUYAAA: but one is 1/4 and the other one not
23:07 Asonate: well, theres a .25 difference theorethically
23:07 Asonate: and i used the 1/4 DS all the time
23:08 BOUYAAA: It's more the fact that this is really misleading rythm wise
23:08 Asonate: so i guess ill have to increase the 1/2 spacing
23:08 BOUYAAA: yes
23:08 BOUYAAA: saping doesnt rly matter given how hard your map already is
23:08 Asonate: changing it anyway, dont want issues because of readability
23:09 BOUYAAA: 01:11:236 (2,3,4,5,1) - really low spacing if you ask me
23:10 BOUYAAA: I get what you were trying to do though
23:10 Asonate: think i should rather not decrease them
23:10 Asonate: lets be real, nothing in the song justifies it
23:10 Asonate: ill make it regular squares
23:10 BOUYAAA: I think the lowering spacing is a cool idea
23:10 BOUYAAA: naaaaah
23:11 Asonate: mmh, or jumps
23:11 BOUYAAA: keep your idea
23:11 Asonate: ok, will keep it then :d
23:11 BOUYAAA: pitch goes lower and lower
23:11 BOUYAAA: so reducing spacing makes sense
23:11 BOUYAAA: at least to me
23:11 Asonate: yeah
23:12 BOUYAAA: and then we get to the end which we already talked about
23:12 Asonate: 01:19:172 (11) - think i should have the whole stream constantly increasing in DS instead of one half 1, the other 1.5 ?
23:12 BOUYAAA: half half considering the sudden pitch change
23:13 Asonate: alright, the stream stays op af then
23:13 BOUYAAA: i have big issues with these spaced streams though
23:13 BOUYAAA: they are kind of overdone imo :/
23:13 BOUYAAA: You'll ask people about this
23:13 BOUYAAA: I can't say
23:14 Asonate: well, i could make it CS 4.5
23:14 Asonate: would ease a lot of stuff up a bit
23:14 BOUYAAA: it would be the same to just reduce spacing a bit
23:14 Asonate: exactly
23:14 BOUYAAA: increasing CS would fuck up other stuff in your map so I wouldn't do it
23:15 Asonate: but i'd rather not, it fucks up so many blankets
23:15 Asonate: yeah
23:15 Asonate: lemme try to pass this real quick
23:16 BOUYAAA: in insane
23:17 BOUYAAA: 00:01:172 (1,2,3,4) - clean losange pls
23:17 Asonate: ripped
23:17 Asonate: but i think i can pass this with some trys
23:18 Asonate: fixed
23:19 BOUYAAA: 00:05:817 (3,4,5) - straight jumps like that
23:19 BOUYAAA: are awkward
23:19 BOUYAAA: you lose emphasis on individual notes
23:20 BOUYAAA: and they play harder than angular jumps because you're more required to change your speed midway
23:20 BOUYAAA: than to aim
23:20 Asonate: yeah, fixed them
23:20 BOUYAAA: so you have this rly tense feeling in the midle of the pattern for not apparent reason
23:20 Asonate: a 60° angle is too low ?
23:21 BOUYAAA: 60° is cool
23:21 Asonate: brb
23:21 BOUYAAA: 180° is meh
23:22 BOUYAAA: 00:09:882 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - same spacing as 1/2 patterns right before but this is 3/4 stuff
23:22 BOUYAAA: I'd either space them out a bit more or make some ati jump things
23:22 Asonate: ill space them a bit more
23:23 BOUYAAA: 00:32:333 - this should have something
23:23 BOUYAAA: also long gaps like that are rather awkward to play, why not do 1/2 sliders instead of single notes?
23:24 BOUYAAA: it's an insane after all
23:24 BOUYAAA: 00:53:624 - the fact that there is something missing here is rather awkward too
23:25 BOUYAAA: 01:20:333 (5,6,7,1,2) - same remark as befor with obtuse angles like that
23:25 BOUYAAA: this is rly tense
23:25 Asonate: first one fixed with slider note combo
23:26 Asonate: second fixed with repeat slider
23:26 Asonate: last one made an ~70° angle
23:27 BOUYAAA: 01:28:269 (6) - that slider end should be clckable, there is a snare sound
23:28 BOUYAAA: rather awkward pauses too

gl

Kroytz wrote:

Hi

Easy

General: Maybe increase the DS to 1.3 or 1.4 to prevent the overlaps that run throughout this entire diff. For Easy, things should look pleasing and comfortable to someone who has never played this game.
CS 2
AR 4
OD 2
HP 3
Is somewhat standard for Easy. Your settings are too low compared to normal.

00:01:172 (2,1,2) - Don't repeat these, not for easy. Keep it simple at 1/1. But having start on red tick is kind of awkward as well. Alternatively, you can start the map over at this slider instead 00:03:688 (1) - and ignore the first 3 seconds. The overlaps on those beats aren't so pleasing to look at either, but that's my opinion.
00:09:882 (1,2) - The relationship between these two is uncanny. I'd suggest using a different slider for (1) or a different formation. It's a good idea you have though.
00:16:075 (1) - Same goes here. It's because of the low AR that makes these look a little "off".
00:16:850 (2) - 1/1
00:28:462 (1) - Make as 4/4 slider instead. Don't leave the awkward pauses there. Same goes for future parts.
00:25:366 (1) - Perhaps try a rhythm something like this: http://puu.sh/l36co/cd3306afe0.jpg
00:30:011 (1) - ^
00:31:559 (1,2,3,4) - I'm not one to wreck on "style" but certainly there could be a better pattern to this? It's not bad, but I don't think it's that special really. all applied EXCEPT for this one
00:37:753 (1,2) - 1/1
00:50:140 (1,2,1,2) - Try move these sliders more around the playfield as to not clump up a particular quadrant. Also, try use angular sliders or maybe even wavy ones to get rid of "staleness".
01:03:301 (1,1,1,1) - remove the NCs and maybe try something more uniformly like a simple star pattern.
01:11:817 (1) - ;w;
01:13:366 (1,2) - Overlaps and slider shapes aren't very well designed here.
~1:20ish try not go simply go around the playfield a lot, the center of the playfield is being neglected. This is more of a structural flaw.
01:39:688 (1) - Not so good
01:39:688 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Here could be a better pattern as well. Be creative with Easy!

Normal

00:07:946 (2,3,4,5,6) - Lack of structure here, this could be patterned or designed better.
00:12:979 (1,2) - Personal bias against non-complimentary sliders ><; They kind of look just thrown in there.
00:19:172 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - Please add some sliders here. This Normal difficulty and the rhythm should also be fairly simple-to-do and not so "spammy" with either notes or sliders. Keep them evenly distributed if you can.
00:27:688 (1) - Remove NC
00:47:043 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - When I highlight these, it looks so "random". You centralize these notes too hard, utilize more of the playfield and keep things rather simple. Also issue with lack of sliders.
00:54:785 (5) - This should be NC'd. Also, try a more 1/2 sort of rhythm.
01:03:301 (1,1,1) - Remove the last 3 NC's
01:24:204 (1,2,3,4,1) - The rhythm was doing fine from before but I think here too many circles. Speaking of which, try to play more around with the flow and design outlook for this map. It tends to feel 'bland' (bias) but there are ways to make Easy/Normal very exciting while keeping the SR low!
01:38:140 (1) - These sliders are exciting and I'd like to see more similar ones (at 1/1 too) to be utilized.

applied everything

IRC Awakening

2015-10-30 02:54 Kroytz: Okay
2015-10-30 02:55 Kroytz: as a foreword, I sort of biased towards structure and 'cleanliness'
2015-10-30 02:55 Kroytz: so if it goes against 'style' then w.e but this is just my thoughts
2015-10-30 02:55 Kroytz: :3
2015-10-30 02:55 Asonate: cleanliness is my weakness xD
2015-10-30 02:56 Kroytz: 00:02:720 (4,5) - this is minor but seeing the repetition in the music on that sound, you could consider using (5) as an anti-jump near (4)
2015-10-30 02:56 Kroytz: as an option
2015-10-30 02:56 Kroytz: but what you have is fine
2015-10-30 02:56 Kroytz: now to something more serious
2015-10-30 02:56 Kroytz: 00:04:075 (5,6,7,8) -
2015-10-30 02:56 Kroytz: lacks what I call 'uniformity'
2015-10-30 02:56 Asonate: i guess all should have the same DS
2015-10-30 02:57 Kroytz: because look at how all the sliders relate to each other
2015-10-30 02:57 Kroytz: and how seperate they are
2015-10-30 02:57 Kroytz: this is a rough sketch of what I consider to be more structured http://puu.sh/l38uP/946b7f64a4.jpg
2015-10-30 02:58 Kroytz: its more along the lines of how you layed 00:04:269 (6,8) - out
2015-10-30 02:58 Asonate: if im offline in a sec osu crashed
2015-10-30 02:58 Kroytz: ok
2015-10-30 02:59 Asonate: changed it to something similar to your suggestion
2015-10-30 02:59 Kroytz: not quite sure how clean this is 00:04:850 (9,10,11,12,1) -
2015-10-30 03:00 Kroytz: if its ctrl-d into a star but the slider at the end i never liked because of the overlap
2015-10-30 03:00 Kroytz: i'd rather the tail sticking out of the star instead, but generally stars with slider ends are not my cup
2015-10-30 03:00 Kroytz: if anything, I'd say it doesn't 'look' that great, though the idea is good
2015-10-30 03:01 Kroytz: I can't really remap this for you 00:05:237 (1,2,3,4) - but maybe rotate the sliders 120°
2015-10-30 03:01 Asonate: wait, ctrl-d ?
2015-10-30 03:01 Kroytz: ctrl shift d
2015-10-30 03:02 Asonate: ah k
2015-10-30 03:02 Asonate: ctrl d made some strange duping
2015-10-30 03:02 Kroytz: lol yeah
2015-10-30 03:03 Kroytz: 00:06:398 (7) - Id have it as a long slider and remove (8,9)
2015-10-30 03:03 Kroytz: like a slow slider that goes into the NC which is faster
2015-10-30 03:04 Kroytz: 00:06:398 (7) - streams <3
2015-10-30 03:04 Kroytz: tho, I think it could look better xD
2015-10-30 03:05 Asonate: well, i want emphasis on the 1/4 sound right before the NC
2015-10-30 03:05 Asonate: and with the streams youre forced to speed up
2015-10-30 03:05 Kroytz: if anything 00:14:527 (1) - should be more emphasized
2015-10-30 03:06 Asonate: just this note or everything after ?
2015-10-30 03:06 Kroytz: personally, I would remap the entire stream because i love my streams to be kawaii, but what you have is acceptable
2015-10-30 03:07 Kroytz: small little emphasis on things like that
2015-10-30 03:07 Asonate: remapping rn
2015-10-30 03:07 Kroytz: bring the map in together
2015-10-30 03:07 Kroytz: and this spacing is rather high for such a peaceful part in the song
2015-10-30 03:07 Kroytz: 00:18:591 (6,7) -
2015-10-30 03:07 Kroytz: (7) too emphasized
2015-10-30 03:10 Kroytz: heres what I created for the stream lol http://puu.sh/l399P/279fc34aad.jpg
2015-10-30 03:10 Asonate: redid the stream (made it increasing in DS)
2015-10-30 03:10 Kroytz: the emphasizing (1) sound is overlapped on top of that (3) that bottom so use your imagination when trying to play that in your head xD
2015-10-30 03:11 Asonate: its a kroytz stream xD
2015-10-30 03:11 Kroytz: it's what im known for! xD
2015-10-30 03:11 Kroytz: i live the stream life
2015-10-30 03:11 Asonate: "wanna GD ???????"
2015-10-30 03:11 Asonate: ACTION runs
2015-10-30 03:11 Kroytz: sorry :[
2015-10-30 03:11 Kroytz: I'll send you the code for that stream if you wanna try it out cuz I think its pretty cool idk
2015-10-30 03:11 Kroytz: :p
2015-10-30 03:11 Asonate: i know i know xD
2015-10-30 03:12 Asonate: I'd be glad to take it (gotta call it collab then xD)
2015-10-30 03:12 Asonate: or better: Awakening feat. Kroytz Strimms
2015-10-30 03:12 Kroytz: nah, no need
2015-10-30 03:13 Kroytz: ah shit
2015-10-30 03:13 Kroytz: i forgot to accentuate this note 00:15:301 (1) -
2015-10-30 03:13 Kroytz: fuuu
2015-10-30 03:13 Kroytz: its okay
2015-10-30 03:13 Kroytz: yolo
2015-10-30 03:13 Asonate: lol
2015-10-30 03:13 Asonate: did you move the start tho ?
2015-10-30 03:13 Kroytz: yeah
2015-10-30 03:13 Asonate: damn, well ill remap that
2015-10-30 03:13 Kroytz: you could flip it if you want so it ends on wherever you neded it to end
2015-10-30 03:13 Kroytz: anyways back to mod:
2015-10-30 03:14 Kroytz: 00:21:495 (5,6,7,8,9) - this is nice
2015-10-30 03:14 Asonate: thanks
2015-10-30 03:14 Kroytz: wouldnt have this so far apart from the slider 00:27:591 (4,5) -
2015-10-30 03:14 Kroytz: looks odd
2015-10-30 03:14 Asonate: mmh
2015-10-30 03:14 Kroytz: if you wanna do something like that, change the slider to make a blanket for it
2015-10-30 03:15 Asonate: well, they occur later with 1/2 slider
2015-10-30 03:15 Asonate: cant blanket there...
2015-10-30 03:15 Asonate: but i can blanket them here, sure
2015-10-30 03:15 Kroytz: 00:31:946 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - somewhere there should be a slider
2015-10-30 03:16 Kroytz: also cluttered in that section
2015-10-30 03:16 Asonate: yeah, they were 1/4 before but that felt even weirder
2015-10-30 03:16 Kroytz: could be spaced further for emphasis on vocal 00:38:527 (5) -
2015-10-30 03:17 Kroytz: 00:43:946 (1) - weird
2015-10-30 03:17 Kroytz: this could look neater if the center circles were spaced directly in the center 00:44:237 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
2015-10-30 03:18 Kroytz: rn its leaning to the left
2015-10-30 03:18 Kroytz: and these look oddly placed as well 00:45:688 (2,3) -
2015-10-30 03:18 Kroytz: 00:50:140 (1) - overlap unpleasant
2015-10-30 03:18 Kroytz: followed by clutter in that area
2015-10-30 03:18 Asonate: yeah, i had that but got told it might be unreadable
2015-10-30 03:19 Asonate: so i moved the first triple
2015-10-30 03:19 Kroytz: 00:59:430 (1,1) - this is way too close together
2015-10-30 03:19 Kroytz: unrankably close together
2015-10-30 03:19 Kroytz: end on red tick or previous white tick and mute spinner end
2015-10-30 03:20 Kroytz: 01:15:397 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - would make smoother
2015-10-30 03:20 Kroytz: but you have a good idea going on here ;o
2015-10-30 03:21 Kroytz: a lot of the streams in that section could be smoothed out as to not have sharp edges
2015-10-30 03:21 Kroytz: or uncanny edges and such
2015-10-30 03:21 Asonate: alright, fixed all except the cluster slider
2015-10-30 03:21 Kroytz: 01:24:301 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27) - too long of a pause
2015-10-30 03:21 Asonate: because i really like the movement there, and i cant think of a way to not make it overlap
2015-10-30 03:21 Kroytz: i'd close it in up until 01:24:979 (24) - and move direction
2015-10-30 03:21 Kroytz: yea the movement is pretty good
2015-10-30 03:22 Kroytz: this is kinda awkward pause as well 01:22:462 (14,1) -
2015-10-30 03:22 Kroytz: the DS is the same but it's 1/4 musically apart
2015-10-30 03:22 Kroytz: that's gotta be fixed
2015-10-30 03:23 Kroytz: 01:27:301 (1) - maybe you can have this make as a triangle with 01:27:495 (2) - to keep the theme
2015-10-30 03:23 Kroytz: or maybe not hmm
2015-10-30 03:23 Kroytz: but that slider looks awfully lonely
2015-10-30 03:24 Kroytz: not really a fan of these types of curves 01:38:720 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13) -
2015-10-30 03:24 Kroytz: but it works I suppose
2015-10-30 03:24 Kroytz: increase the spacing between all these 01:40:850 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) -
2015-10-30 03:24 Kroytz: their relationships together I mean
2015-10-30 03:25 Kroytz: to emphasize the ending
2015-10-30 03:25 Kroytz: cuz theyre all equal and its like boring lol
2015-10-30 03:25 Kroytz: the music also increases in intensity so theres that too
2015-10-30 03:25 Kroytz: and that's pretty much it

Thanks a lot for the mod!

Here's that mock-up stream. Do what you want with it lol Oh I will :^)

le stream

144,155,12979,5,0,0:0:0:0:
147,170,13075,1,0,0:0:0:0:
150,185,13172,1,0,0:0:0:0:
154,200,13269,1,0,0:0:0:0:
131,240,13366,5,0,0:0:0:0:
157,256,13462,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,270,13559,1,0,0:0:0:0:
211,284,13656,1,0,0:0:0:0:
233,332,13753,5,0,0:0:0:0:
274,339,13850,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,323,13946,1,0,0:0:0:0:
331,285,14043,1,0,0:0:0:0:
322,243,14140,1,0,0:0:0:0:
306,241,14237,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,253,14333,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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Fenza wrote:

Mod for Extra

00:01:366 (3,4) - i don't Think these notes have enough spacing so they don't put as large of an impact as 00:01:172 (2,3) - do, even if the sound is nearly the same
Beat impact and rhythm
00:02:721 (4,5,6,7) - the exact same problem here. Not enough pressure put on the strong beats
00:06:398 (7,8) - this is a good example of doing this well, the spacing and difficulty is decreased when the song slows down and that is good
00:15:301 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - i don't see the Point in doing a stream like this when the sound is basicly the same, it would be better to use equal spacing here Technically the stream section here gets more intense after the first 16 notes, should this become an issue ill adjost the prior 12 notes to gradually increase DS here - for now, no change
00:18:204 (4,5) - needs more pressure like the last time i pointed it out
00:24:785 (6,7) - i would say this requires more spacing or a more aqute angle usage, it's two very strong beats that don't have enough of pressure put on
them the pressure there should come frpm the 1/4 slider, gonna keep as is for now
00:33:301 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - i don't Think these triples fit the song at all, i would map this part around the vocals instead
00:38:333 (4) - i Think this should be a 1/4 slider to fit in with the vocals, it shouldn't really change how it is played That would not change the way its played, but it would potentially mess up reading, also this doesnt call for a 1/4 slider imo
00:40:462 (5) - The stream should end here. it shouldnt, theres 1/4 until the point it stops, also you have a only a 1/2 gap to the next note, making this a nice pressure point before the break
00:45:495 (1) - i would make this a 1/1 slider to fit the vocals Im mostly mapping to the instrumental parts here, a random 1/1 slider would mess consistency up
00:51:591 (8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - just as th last time, i Think putting triples here is overmapping and doesn't fit the song
00:55:946 (7) - i would make this end on the red tick This one end on the white tick to start the break following, dont want to destroy that
01:02:527 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - i Think doing this fits the song better, map around the vocals and not the wubs http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3893717 Yeah, i remember you did it like this in your diff which is absolutely fine, but i focus on stuff that i notice first, in this case drumkick, basswobble - no change
01:08:333 (7) - no 1/8 here first off, holds i need you D:, second theres noise here which i could use to justify this, but if more complain, i will make this with a SV 0.5 Slider instead
01:11:237 (6,7,8) - no 1/4 here just mapping the drums here
and that about sums up this part!

Flow and Readability
00:12:591 (2,1) - the spacing between these is too small, it becomes difficult to read and odd to play
00:21:882 (9) - i'm sceptical about this, i Think the angle is too acute and would like it toned down a bit, the idea is good though yeah, i hope it can stay
00:36:979 (1,1,1,1) - i Think this is too hard to read and i don't like the NC spam, i would use an angled approach like a small Square at this pattern if i were to do it with circles, i prefer the easier version of doing sudden 1/3 into 1 reverse slider´instead of the 3 circles. yeah, i remapped here a lot, but im gonna stick with this for now (This comes from an alternating playstyle, so light angles make it easier)

Final thoughts
I Think it's a pretty well made map. But like every map it has its mistakes here and there.
I would like you to take a look at blanketing in your map because you're missing some pretty good blanketing opportunities.
That's it for me. Good luck with the map!

everything without comment was applied

basic

1. Trunoff Letterbox during breaks and Widescreen Support -> your map not use storyboard
2. Trun off countdown

_ Hatsune Miku wrote:

:P Hi there (#M4M?)

basic

1. Trunoff Letterbox during breaks and Widescreen Support -> your map not use storyboard
2. Trun off countdown

all applied

Easy

1. I Think in Easy Ar is higher. down to 2 or 3
2. 00:08:333 (3) - no over 2 repetition slider in Easy
3. 00:30:785 - 00:36:979 - you can put node in here (maybe missing vocal)
4. 00:40:850 (1) - add finish

all applied

normal

1. 00:40:850 (1) - add Finish done
2. 01:42:591 (4) - done
3. 00:48:398 (3) - put this node Right here 00:48:204
4. 00:53:043 (3) - 00:52:850
5. 00:54:591 (3) - 00:54:398
6. 00:54:785 ~ 00:55:366 - change long slider.
7. 00:55:559 (3) - change slider -> node and put 00:55:559 here

tried the other ones, didnt feel it was better, so i reverted it

Hard

1. 00:01:753 (4) - add Whistle
2. 00:17:237 (6) -
3. 00:18:785 (7) -
4. 00:20:333 (6) -
5. 00:24:979 (7) - ^
   --------------------------------------------
6. 00:21:495 (5) - add Whistle slider End
   --------------------------------------------
7. 00:22:269 (1) - add Whistle slider start
8. 00:23:430 (4) - ^

not quite sure if i want whistles in the hitsounding, will keep it in mind tho

okay... Gl for Ranked !

BladesofSteel wrote:

Hello. M4M modding

Awakening

00:05:237 (1,2) - I think this would be a better flow:
tried it, but the 2 to 3 flow is way worse like this; i'll keep in mind to try stuff here to

00:40:850 (8) - Add finish. done

00:50:140 (1) - This slider really shouldn't be letting it's entire body be completely covered by the previous stream. Consider altering its form so that at least it's tail isn't buried in the mess. this is, similar to extra intentional, to get a spiral flow

00:54:204 (7) - Extend it's tail to 00:54:398 so that the rhythm remains consistent with the sliders placed on 00:52:462 (6) - ,00:53:237 (1) - ,00:54:785 (1) - and so forth. again intentional, this is the the wub sound which is a different sound than before and only is 1/4 long

01:14:527 (1) - The slider is buried as well. Unless this was intentional, consider re-positioning this slide,r or having it re angled so that it's tail is at least visible from the heap of hit circles. intentional as well

01:24:204 (16) - You could add NC combo here, but because the stream did not finish, I suppose it may not be necessary. exactly why i was hesitant here as well; done

riktoi's Extra

00:06:398 (6,1) - Even with ignoring the distance snap, these objects are too close, try to move them more apart so the tail/head aren't touching. Refer to how you spaced 00:06:011 (5,6) - ,00:06:785 (1,2) - and so forth.

00:11:430 (1,2) - Try a blanket here, for smoother flow.

00:26:430 (5) - Sounds really extra here, because there is nothing to note of in the music (both vocal and beat or instrument wise), so consider removing it.

00:40:075 (5,6) - Because these notes are still part of the rhythm 00:39:301 (1,2,3,4) - , meaning they're spacing should still be the same. These notes needs to be positioned closer, least overlapping each other slightly to distinguish their distance in timing, because they are 1/4 beats apart. 00:39:301 (1,2,3,4) - are 2/4 apart, yet they are spaced the same as 00:40:075 (5,6) - .

@riktoi

Extra

00:34:850 (2,3,4) - Bad overlap, but I found a way that would help fix this. Re-adjust 00:34:656 (1,2,3,4) - 's position so that the tail of 00:35:043 (4) - is seated perfectly under the tail of 00:34:366 (8) - .
tried it out, found it ruined the flow with 1, reverted, sorry

00:40:850 (8) - Add finish. done

00:45:785 (2) - Move it away from the tail of 00:45:108 (6) - . done

00:50:140 (1) - Have this slider cuver the other way around 00:50:043 (10) - to meet with 00:50:430 (2,3) - . TO have that jump here is intentional, as is the slider, it creates a spiral flow, which i find kinda fancy

Too many Extra diffs...

FenzlExtra

Make sure you check AiMod (Ctrl + Shitft + A). There seems to be a small list of errors that you'll need to fix.

00:06:007 (5,7) - Stack?

@Fenza

Insane

00:00:592 (1) - Add finish?
00:40:850 (8) - ^

01:21:882 (5,6) - Strange flow..I'm not sure what to suggest for here. Remap maybe?

all applied

Hard

00:29:817 (5,1) - Consider creating a blanket for neater flow. Avoid letting the tail touch 00:29:624 (4) - though. it is exactly as intended, with 1 being in singletap DS to the start of the prior ones
00:33:882 (3,4) - Blanket as well. this actually kills flow imo

00:40:850 (6) - Add finish? done
01:02:527 (1) - ^ done

00:43:559 and 00:43:753 consider adding hit circles or a slider here, if you are following the vocals. not following vocals

00:55:366 (2,3,4,5) - Don't do this sort of spacing, it looks really odd in a Hard diff. Space them evenly and according to the DS. done

01:11:817 (1) - I find that extending it's tail to hit 01:12:108 really effective in this rhythm. What do you think? It does have an interesting effect, sadly I dont have any objects on the drumbeat then, so i cant change that
01:12:591 (4) - ^

Normal

00:03:688 (1) - Add finish?
00:40:850 (1) - ^
01:14:914 (1) - ^
01:27:301 (1) - ^ On the head.
01:33:495 (1) - ^ all done

00:14:527 (2) - Because this is overlapping the following notes 00:16:850 (2,3,4) - terrible, I'd rather this slider curve upwards instead, so only part of it's body is overlapped by 00:14:527 (2) - 's tail. tried it, didnt like it more, rather go with the overlap

00:36:204 (1,2) - Try to make a blanket here for better flow. done

01:36:591 (1,2,3,4) - I'm starting to get slightly annoyed of seeing the numerous small sliders, so I want to suggest a new rhythm for this part:
sorry, but im mapping primarily to the instrumental part, which first of, doesnt give me 3/4 rhythm and secondly do i think these 1/2 slider patterns are beautiful

Easy

00:50:140 (1,2) - Blanket for neater flow, just like how you did for 00:47:043 (1,2) - .

00:55:946 - Ad a note here for that wub.

01:11:817 (1,2,3,4) - There's nothing bad with stacking, but this seems to be over doing it, esp. in an Easy diff. Move 01:12:591 (3,4) - somewhere else - supposedly within the curve of 01:13:366 (1) - so that it makes a nice blanket.

01:21:495 (2,1) - Bad overlap, consider remapping this part.

applied everything

Good luck.

BladesofSteel wrote:

Hello. M4M modding

riktoi's Extra

00:06:398 (6,1) - Even with ignoring the distance snap, these objects are too close, try to move them more apart so the tail/head aren't touching. Refer to how you spaced 00:06:011 (5,6) - ,00:06:785 (1,2) - and so forth. I see

00:11:430 (1,2) - Try a blanket here, for smoother flow. done

00:26:430 (5) - Sounds really extra here, because there is nothing to note of in the music (both vocal and beat or instrument wise), so consider removing it. done

00:40:075 (5,6) - Because these notes are still part of the rhythm 00:39:301 (1,2,3,4) - , meaning they're spacing should still be the same. These notes needs to be positioned closer, least overlapping each other slightly to distinguish their distance in timing, because they are 1/4 beats apart. 00:39:301 (1,2,3,4) - are 2/4 apart, yet they are spaced the same as 00:40:075 (5,6) - . adjusted

Good luck.

Yauxo wrote:

[riktoi]
Generally, you might want to silence Sliderends on any 3/4ish Slider (like 01:02:527 (1) - ) silenced some, but for few of them it is better to leave the sliderend hitsound

■ 00:02:527 (2,3) - I dont think that placing these objects like 1/4's (while theyre not) is a good think to do. Maybe you'd want to space them equally to 00:01:172 (2,3) - or simply enlarge the Sliders done
■ 00:03:688 (1,2) - similar issue to ^ done
■ 00:25:882 (2,3) - I'd stack them for easier reading, especially since theyre on a weird timing. These are already so close that you can just keep your cursor in the same spot to hit them. I don't think stacking it honestly makes any difference
■ 00:27:785 (4) - Maybe remove this one. A triplet feels much more natural here. There isnt really too much noise for an object to be placed there either, as 00:27:688 (3) - has a strong ending beat I see
■ 00:40:850 - Might as well want to add a Circle here I think the start of the break covers it nicely. I don't really want to place an object here as the sliderend of this 00:40:462 (3) - ends on a similar sound
■ 01:25:753 (1,2,3,4,5) - The timing is off on these. Might want to check the Awakening diff for the correct timing (or just move these object 1/4tick to the right)done

I feel like this map could need some more "cleaning". Some of the patterns dont look as polished as they could be and there are some inconsistencies here and there (like the spacing thing I mentioned at the beginning) which makes the map kind of dull. made something about this too since I don't want to disappoint mr. asonate :^) (or myself)

Good Luck! thanks

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Yauxo wrote:

[Awakening]
I dont think that Ive ever seen a map stylized like this before.

■ 00:00:592 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Kind of minor as it fits to the difficulty itself, but I feel like a little less spacing would feel more natural here, as there's not much going on in the song yet. Intensity is pretty low. lowered general spacing
■ 00:36:979 (1,1,1) - Personally I'd lower the spacing here too. I dont think many people would be able to read the change from 1/2 to 1/3 first try, as the 1/3 spacing is basically the same as the 1/2 one. (ex. 00:36:011 (9,1) - has ~ the same spacing as 00:36:979 (1,1) - , which could make it look like it's a 1/2 instead of 1/3) made it smaller as well
■ 01:17:817 (13,14,1) - 's stack doesnt really feel as good as 01:18:204 (2,3,4) - 's does. 01:17:817 (13,14) - are still part of the previous combo/pattern, so it'd be cool if it was loyal to the patterntype. 01:18:204 (2,3) - on the other hand are a new pattern on a different type of vocals/music, which makes the stack valid. tried something, punch me if its worse
Personally, I'd unstack 01:17:817 (13,14) - , but stack 01:18:591 (5,6,7) - instead. I feel like it'd have more impact like that, maybe that's just me tho.
■ 01:36:204 (3,4) - Isnt that jump kind of extreme, considering that the patterns before that are all Kicksliders? ;w; It being a stack also adds that people could break easily if they cant come to a full stop (which isnt that easy after a high speed pattern/fullscreen jump like that) made it not so sudden in momentum, still high spacing tho

Extra looks good Thanks!

[Insane]
■ 00:24:204 (3,4) - Minor aesthetics; I think that this was supposed to be a stack? fixed that
■ 00:55:172 (2) - Maybe you could Nc this. Having 1/2 rhythms and 1/3 rhythms in the same combo can be confusing NCed
■ 00:55:946 (6) - Slider this one or maybe add another Circle to 00:56:333 - maybe? It feels so disstatisfying to break before that last actual beat happens ;w; NO MORE DISSATISFACTION ;3

Hard and lower diffs are basically fine, I'd only be able to point out irrelevant opinions.
Good Luck!
Thanks a lot for your time!

Yauxo wrote:

stack thing looks better now :3

Glad to hear

Fenza wrote:

FenlExtra after the mod

osu file format v14

[General]
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PreviewTime: 74914
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Title:Ververg Symphony
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Artist:axsword
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Creator:Asonate
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322,124,100269,6,0,B|349:132|349:132|373:158,1,48.9999985046387,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
77,305,100462,2,0,B|47:298|47:298|14:278,1,48.9999985046387,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
377,179,100850,6,0,B|390:201|390:201|395:242,1,48.9999985046387,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,234,101044,1,2,0:0:0:0:
159,30,101237,6,0,L|159:93,1,52.5000020027161,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
279,349,101430,2,0,L|279:286,1,52.5000020027161,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
71,91,101817,6,0,L|105:173,1,52.5000020027161,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
377,307,102010,2,0,L|342:224,1,52.5000020027161,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
279,18,102398,6,0,B|275:37|275:37|279:66|279:66|277:99,1,52.5000020027161,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
279,349,102591,1,6,0:0:0:0:

oh and also change the OD to 7.5 since i forgot pls

1. I noticed that the BG you've used has a watermark on it near the top. Watermarks are bad as they detract detail from the image, so I made a version without it: http://puu.sh/m1t3l/d30f16d90f.jpg

1. 00:12:979 (1,1) - I'm really not too sure about this pattern. Although it looks nice, newcomers will have a hard time reading this since the end of a slider is hidden beneath the trail of another.
2. 00:36:979 (2,3,4) - This will also give newcomers a hard time because (3,4) is hidden beneath the end of (2). Newcomers simply won't know what to do here, so I suggest redoing this pattern to make it clearer.
3. 00:54:398 (2) - I suggest removing this whistle as it feels so out of place considering how it is the only one in the difficulty.
4. 01:02:527 (1,2,3,4,1) - The spacing throughout this star-pattern is too high. Easies are meant to teach newcomers the basics of distance snap and when/when not to hit notes, increasing the distance snap like this will just confuse them.
5. 01:12:204 (2,4) - It would be more consistent if you got rid of this clap. Nothing in the music really suggests this change in hitsounding.
6. 01:21:108 (1) - Adding a clap here would also be more consistent. Adding one here will go with the clap pattern you have going here, and nothing in the music suggests a change.
7. 01:33:495 (1,1) - These two notes can confuse newcomers because they are right on top of each other. I suggest changing this so it is more newcomer friendly.

1. 00:12:979 (1,2) - The spacing here is way too high, making it hard to read and difficult to execute on the first try. Please move these notes closer together so that they follow the distance snap.
2. 00:36:979 (2) - Why does this end on a blue tick? This is bad because it can throw players off-beat, providing a poor experience. For this reason I suggest moving the end of the slider 1/4 back so it ends on a white tick. Doing this will also allow you to keep the hitsounds consistent by adding a clap on the end of the slider.
3. 01:26:333 (1,1) - Get rid of these NCs, they are not needed because the pattern is perfectly readable as it is. Using NCs like this isn't their intended purpose and it can break the balance of the HP drain on your map.

1. 00:06:785 (1,2,3) - You should keep the spacing consistent here, why is (1,2) closer together than (2,3)? Minor spacing errors like this can make your map seem unpolished.
2. 00:26:140 (1) - I would get rid of this NC, the slider velocity doesn't change and it is perfectly readable as it is.
3. 00:53:237 (2) - Personally, I don't like this slider too much. The fact that the two ends are overlapping each other makes the slider seem scruffy, so I's change this.
4. 01:32:527 (3,4) - This overlap should go, because they make the map seem somewhat cramped, especially minor ones like this.

1. 00:26:140 (3,1) - I'd increase the spacing here, because I feel that (1) deserves a lot more emphasis.
2. 00:39:108 (8,1) - The spacing here is kinda low. After a jump pattern, having low spacing like this flows poorly, so it's not a nice gameplay experience. Also, as I have mentioned above, I feel that (1) deserves more emphasis.
3. 01:17:624 (7,1) - Despite the NC, players are still likely to hit (1) too early thanks to the jump patterns before it. I suggest filling this gap somehow t fix this, by adding a note or replacing these with a slider.
4. 01:28:462 (7,4) - This blanket could use some work, it looks quite unpleasing at the moment, making the map seem a bit messy.

1. 00:24:591 (5,6) - I'd make these two sliders the same, because right now the pattern looks a bit wonky. Since you've used an SV change here though, that won't be possible, so you might have to get rid of that as well, or start the change at (5).
2. 00:25:366 (1) - Why does this end on a 1/8? I can't hear anything in the music that would justify this, so it just plays tacky. It would play and sound much more nicer if you ended it on the 1/2 in front of it.
3. 01:17:237 (1,2,3,4,5) - Clean this stream up a bit, the jagged movement between the notes don't look very nice and it plays tacky. The inconsistent spacing between (4,5) doesn't help.

1. Remove the countdown here, it conflicts with all the other difficulties.
2. Check AIMod, there's unsnapped notes and problems with timing points.
3. 00:11:721 (3) - Considering how the previous pattern went, shouldn't this have an NC as well? I recommend adding one, as it will be more consistent and easier to read.
4. 00:28:462 (1) - This perfectly straight slider seems so plain compared to the rest of the map, I'd tilt it or change the shape.
5. 00:54:011 (3,4) - Tilt (4) so it is at the same angle at (3), if you look carefully then you'll see that they're different. This is a very minor suggestion, but it shouldn't be too hard to apply.
6. 01:32:721 (1,2,3,4) - From the previous slider, this stream flows quite poorly because it goes at a different trajectory from the cursor.

1. 00:49:753 (7,8,9,10,1) - This pattern could use a clean up, it looks bad and some players may have a hard time reading it.
2. 01:27:495 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - You could curve this part of the stream to make it fit in more, otherwise it will seem out of place.
3. 01:39:204 (12,1) - This plays poorly because the music doesn't call for a spacing change and the cursor has to make a sharp bend after all these smooth movements from the stream. It really doesn't fit, so I'd change this.

1. 00:15:979 (4,1) - Why is (1) so far away? This adds unnecessary difficulty, as nothing in the music calls for this sudden spacing increase. Reduce the spacing it so it is consistent with the rest of the stream.
2. 00:49:753 (8,9,10,11,1) - Like in extra, this pattern needs cleaning up, it is hard to read and it looks bad.
3. 00:54:398 - Add a note here? Having a beat skipped like this can provide a bad gameplay experience, as players find themselves waiting over a strong part of the music.

-Faded- wrote:

Hi, from #modreqs!

[General]

1. I noticed that the BG you've used has a watermark on it near the top. Watermarks are bad as they detract detail from the image, so I made a version without it: http://puu.sh/m1t3l/d30f16d90f.jpg

Thanks so much for that!

[Easy]
Personally, I think this easy needs a bit of work. I've found plenty of patterns that can be outright confusing for the average easy-player. When mapping easies, it's important to remember that although you might be able to read a pattern, players who have just picked up the game fresh from the osu! tutorial might not.

1. 00:12:979 (1,1) - I'm really not too sure about this pattern. Although it looks nice, newcomers will have a hard time reading this since the end of a slider is hidden beneath the trail of another.
2. 00:36:979 (2,3,4) - This will also give newcomers a hard time because (3,4) is hidden beneath the end of (2). Newcomers simply won't know what to do here, so I suggest redoing this pattern to make it clearer.
3. 00:54:398 (2) - I suggest removing this whistle as it feels so out of place considering how it is the only one in the difficulty.
4. 01:02:527 (1,2,3,4,1) - The spacing throughout this star-pattern is too high. Easies are meant to teach newcomers the basics of distance snap and when/when not to hit notes, increasing the distance snap like this will just confuse them.
5. 01:12:204 (2,4) - It would be more consistent if you got rid of this clap. Nothing in the music really suggests this change in hitsounding.
6. 01:21:108 (1) - Adding a clap here would also be more consistent. Adding one here will go with the clap pattern you have going here, and nothing in the music suggests a change.
7. 01:33:495 (1,1) - These two notes can confuse newcomers because they are right on top of each other. I suggest changing this so it is more newcomer friendly.

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[Normal]

1. 00:12:979 (1,2) - The spacing here is way too high, making it hard to read and difficult to execute on the first try. Please move these notes closer together so that they follow the distance snap.
2. 00:36:979 (2) - Why does this end on a blue tick? good question... This is bad because it can throw players off-beat, providing a poor experience. For this reason I suggest moving the end of the slider 1/4 back so it ends on a white tick. Doing this will also allow you to keep the hitsounds consistent by adding a clap on the end of the slider.
3. 01:26:333 (1,1) - Get rid of these NCs, they are not needed because the pattern is perfectly readable as it is. Using NCs like this isn't their intended purpose and it can break the balance of the HP drain on your map.

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[Hard]

1. 00:06:785 (1,2,3) - You should keep the spacing consistent here, why is (1,2) closer together than (2,3)? Minor spacing errors like this can make your map seem unpolished. well, spacing difficulty is because i wanted to avoid an overlap with the prior slider pattern. I made 1 1/4 shorter now, and it does have spacing between 1.0 and 0.9 for the full pattern
2. 00:26:140 (1) - I would get rid of this NC, the slider velocity doesn't change and it is perfectly readable as it is.
3. 00:53:237 (2) - Personally, I don't like this slider too much. The fact that the two ends are overlapping each other makes the slider seem scruffy, so I's change this. redid the slider
4. 01:32:527 (3,4) - This overlap should go, because they make the map seem somewhat cramped, especially minor ones like this. damn, nice job spotting this one

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[Insane]

1. 00:26:140 (3,1) - I'd increase the spacing here, because I feel that (1) deserves a lot more emphasis. increased by 0.3
2. 00:39:108 (8,1) - The spacing here is kinda low. After a jump pattern, having low spacing like this flows poorly, so it's not a nice gameplay experience. Also, as I have mentioned above, I feel that (1) deserves more emphasis.
3. 01:17:624 (7,1) - Despite the NC, players are still likely to hit (1) too early thanks to the jump patterns before it. I suggest filling this gap somehow t fix this, by adding a note or replacing these with a slider. did a slider solution, i kinda liked the pause tho, so i might change it back later
4. 01:28:462 (7,4) - This blanket could use some work, it looks quite unpleasing at the moment, making the map seem a bit messy. seriously, how could i miss that

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[Extra]

1. 00:49:753 (7,8,9,10,1) - This pattern could use a clean up, it looks bad and some players may have a hard time reading it. it pains me to remove this, but done
2. 01:27:495 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - You could curve this part of the stream to make it fit in more, otherwise it will seem out of place.
3. 01:39:204 (12,1) - This plays poorly because the music doesn't call for a spacing change and the cursor has to make a sharp bend after all these smooth movements from the stream. It really doesn't fit, so I'd change this.

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[Awakening]

1. 00:15:979 (4,1) - Why is (1) so far away? This adds unnecessary difficulty, as nothing in the music calls for this sudden spacing increase. Reduce the spacing it so it is consistent with the rest of the stream.
2. 00:49:753 (8,9,10,11,1) - Like in extra, this pattern needs cleaning up, it is hard to read and it looks bad.
3. 00:54:398 - Add a note here? Having a beat skipped like this can provide a bad gameplay experience, as players find themselves waiting over a strong part of the music. while it is a downbeat, the song leaves it empty here. Ill extend the slider to 1/2 if this comes up more often tho

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Overall, the difficulties in this set flow and sound nice, but I feel that the aesthetics and readability could do with some work, especially on the easier diffs.
Glad to hear, i was worried about aesthetics and readability a bit, since these are my first easy/normal diffs

I shot a star, good luck! Thank you so much!

Awakening

The Fetish wrote:

NM from queue.

Pretty cool map. That spacing though.

Awakening

00:04:656 (8,9) - Following the general flow here leads into the stream somewhat poorly. Moving the 8 up slightly can help a little but you may also need to smooth the stream curve to fit the flow better like so. http://puu.sh/m1TPV/ff6db58fe5.jpg Redid the entire pattern
00:14:430 (4,1) - Similar problem here. 00:14:140 (1,2,3,4) - The turn on the stream is too sharp leading into the next. changed a bit, punch me if its worse
00:14:914 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Personally, for each new combo Id use a lower DS to fit the music. done
00:21:495 (5,6,7,8,9) - Personal again, but mapping this stream as two kick sliders instead seems more fitting. did something, might change that back later tho
00:29:624 (8,8) - Super nazi but the DS on these two are different. And Id have them fit in perfectly straight with the slider rather than being a little off. fixed
00:33:301 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Missing a good chance for emphasis here. Music suggests a jump in tension with the triples. Try mapping them as two slightly spaced ones. The second being more spaced. did that
00:33:882 (7,8) - Fitting in with the previous point. Why is there not another triple here? You're covering up beats with sliders here. well, i feel like here the vocals take the dominant part, so I'd rather keep that as a slider rhythm
00:33:882 (7,8) - Might be kinda cool if you swap these around. did that
From here on I cant really suggest anything other than to take a look at your space streams a little an optimize the curves. Some are looking a little off.going over all of them
01:33:688 (1,2,3) - Uhh shouldnt this triple be the most spaced and then each sequential one get smaller? doing something

Thats about it. Godspeed trying to rank these streams. GL. Thanks! Im gonna need it

-Faded- wrote:

Hi, from #modreqs!
[Riktoi's Extra]

1. 00:24:591 (5,6) - I'd make these two sliders the same, because right now the pattern looks a bit wonky. Since you've used an SV change here though, that won't be possible, so you might have to get rid of that as well, or start the change at (5). moved the sv change and made them look the same with a neat blanket so the pattern looks nicer
2. 00:25:366 (1) - Why does this end on a 1/8? I can't hear anything in the music that would justify this, so it just plays tacky. It would play and sound much more nicer if you ended it on the 1/2 in front of it. I can agree, moved the end to the white tick
3. 01:17:237 (1,2,3,4,5) - Clean this stream up a bit, the jagged movement between the notes don't look very nice and it plays tacky. The inconsistent spacing between (4,5) doesn't help. made it round to look better and to stay more consistent with the overall stream patterns