More connection shit there that was supposed to be posted a bit earlier. I started right before Drezi posted his take on this so anything after that isn't taken into consideration.
I really don't like this post.Drezi wrote:
I'm in the process of rereading the thread, but I'm gonna address stuff from the day end before that.
farto's move onto the Tess wagon was OK, I had no problem with that and I was still feeling good about the lynch at that time.
Then in quick succession:Wait what? It would be supereffective to use the doublevote? We don't want the day to end just yet..fartownik wrote:
Also it seems like it is intending to use its doublevote on Tess, which would be supereffective!!!! Red alarm ringing !!! pure shit move on to the wagon, overexplaiming and making excuses after showing up suddenly for the lynch...Static Noise Bird wrote:
Guess it would be a good time to move my vote back onto Tess now that we're at L-2 already. I don't want to be left out of the wagon I so eagerly pushed in the beginning
Vote: Tess
And then bamm HAMMER.And then this explanation, I mean seriously if you tell Jess it'd be super effective to use the double vote, what the hell do you expect will happen?fartownik wrote:
I didnt push for a quickhammer, i just pointed out how jess appeared iut of ducking nowhere right when tess got to l2 and i noticed what she was about to doThat adhom was pretty uncalled for. I'm not sure if it's town pissed off feeling betrayed (irrationally so) or scum showing teeth when confronted.fartownik wrote:
Drezi stop scumpainting me you snake.
Stop talking. We will talk about it calmly tomorrow. At this rate im pretty sure scum is going to keep me alive to try framing me after Tess said her reads and Drezis scumpainting.STOP TALKING? We'll talk about calmly TOMORROW? You're already making excuses for why you'll be around tomorrow, in a situation like this we have no idea if we'll be around the next day, we're in a rush to get get the most info out in reaction to the quickhammer, and you think I should stop talking?fartownik wrote:
Stop talking. We will talk about it calmly tomorrow. At this rate im pretty sure scum is going to keep me alive to try framing me after Tess said her reads and Drezis scumpainting.
It's not like me saying you're scum will get you instalynched tomorrow. If I keep quiet, say nothing and you're scum, you can ride an almost flawlessly townread position, without much opposition to victory by simply NK-ing me. I had absolutely no intention risking this scenario. I brought up stuff that should be remembered, and looked at the next day. If you're town this shouldn't really be a problem.What?? Please don't give me the "I don't even" when you probably misunderstood something. I have not mentioned anything about my role.Frostings wrote:
You basically told us your role, and then pretended to be dayvig
I dont even
Why?fartownik wrote:
@Drezi: the fact that you already vote for someone not even waiting for everyone to post after the night / potential alignment scan claim kinda itches me.
Amianki wrote:
I really don't like this post.
That was my first thought, I should have gone with that now that I think about it.Drezi wrote:
But I don't understand why you wouldn't claim weak cop, that way scum would've tried to kill you next night, rest being the same?
Go into the Drezi and SNB suspicion please.Frostings wrote:
oh, Zexion was doctor
uh, what?
FoS: Drezi
HoS: Jess
Vote: SNB
Also, looks like I was roleblocked last night. Since a roleblocker was already revealed, I got jailed? which makes no sense, unless there's a jailkeeper scum??
He will not confirm this since he'd have to confirm that there is indeed a Hider this game which would break the integrity.rEdo wrote:
@mod: Does a hider's death via getting night-vigged and via visiting scum differ flipwise? I mean, stuff like "Hider got shot in the head Nx", "Hider went to the wrong neighbourhood Nx".
It looks like manipulation to try to get an SNB wagon going instead of scumhunting the wagon. You're overemphasizing SNB's contribution while spending about three words commenting on Jess' double vote hammer. Then you tried to pass it off as fartownik trying to lead Jess to the hammer. I can see one doing this regardless of Jess' alignment, but it is more likely if you two are a team.Drezi wrote:
Amianki wrote:
I really don't like this post.
Be my guest and elaborate instead of dropping one liners whole game.
But why does it 'make you itch'?fartownik wrote:
Because we're full of fucking PRs and it's more than likely that at least one of them has a result on someone and you'd have to switch up your vote/read anyway? So it's quite pointless to vote someone unless you want to achieve something specific by doing that.
Because it's a quite rushed vote. SNB himself did not even have a chance to say anything after the day has begun and he's already being voted by Drezi.Amianki wrote:
But why does it 'make you itch'?fartownik wrote:
Because we're full of fucking PRs and it's more than likely that at least one of them has a result on someone and you'd have to switch up your vote/read anyway? So it's quite pointless to vote someone unless you want to achieve something specific by doing that.
The point is that the way you're going about it looks like you're covering for Jess. Specifically going out of your way to not go into the hammer at all after two flips while throwing suspicion on someone for doing mostly the same thing, and another person for interactions with the hammer. It looks like you have an agenda.Drezi wrote:
I AM trying to get an SNB wagon going hello? Spending three words on Jess's hammer, what? Read my last posts from D1 maybe? That post was a recap of last day, and I elaborated on things I couldn't the day before. farto DID look like he was ok with Jess going ahead with the quickhammer, what do yo even mean by passing it off? it was me trying to figure out why'd farto say that, but it's moot now anyway with him and rEdo being pretty much confirmed.
fartownik wrote:
Because we're full of fucking PRs and it's more than likely that at least one of them has a result on someone and you'd have to switch up your vote/read anyway? So it's quite pointless to vote someone unless you want to achieve something specific by doing that.
Voting SNB doesn't exactly stop him from being able to say anything, though.fartownik wrote:
Because it's a quite rushed vote. SNB himself did not even have a chance to say anything after the day has begun and he's already being voted by Drezi.Amianki wrote:
But why does it 'make you itch'?
I feel like you're making me say things you would want to say yourself but are afraid to.
Hiders are basically a commuter with a couple extra variables.fartownik wrote:
Btw, rEdo your ability is practically useless already. If you target wrong, you die and scum has a free kill. If you target right, scum may as well kill you off the same night and you won't be able to confirm your target. I'd say it'd be safer for you and this game to just do nothing tonight so scum at least wastes their nightkill on you, and if by chance they decide to skip killing you, we can continue like this for the next day (with me and you confirmed, unless I die as well).
I'm not comfortable with mass claiming unless there's a specific reason to.Drezi wrote:
but jess claimed already, I don't mind claiming, our doc is out anyway, farto claiming shouldn't matter at this point am I missing something?
I never said it's because we NEED to know fartownik's role, town PR's being identified is obviously a downside to a massclaim (if otherwise they'd be getting killed next night anyway, not so much..), and the advantage is forcing scum to come out and stick with a claim limiting their wiggle room and being held accountable for their night action choices.Amianki wrote:
The point is that we don't need to know his role unless he thinks we do. I don't understand what's so difficult to understand about this.
What did you do? No comment to what's happening, either?Static Noise Bird wrote:
If I'm so scum then stop keeping me around please to avoid any more confusion or mislynches or whatever you call them. This game turned bad during the very first pages anyway.
I've completed my 1-shot ability anyway which might have poisoned the town even more (though I did target my main scum suspect).
I'll just stay on Mafiascum in the future. lol bye
This is pretty rich considering you've been leading this conversation the entire time.Drezi wrote:
I never said it's because we NEED to know fartownik's role, town PR's being identified is obviously a downside to a massclaim (if otherwise they'd be getting killed next night anyway, not so much..), and the advantage is forcing scum to come out and stick with a claim limiting their wiggle room and being held accountable for their night action choices.Amianki wrote:
The point is that we don't need to know his role unless he thinks we do. I don't understand what's so difficult to understand about this.
It feels like you're just abusing my lack of experience with massclaims to brush it off with shit excuses, because it's a rather delicate matter and you know I'm not sure myself if it's the right course of action.
I had an idea I thought might be good, but wasn't sure, and you said we shouldn't do it, but brought up points that didn't make sense to me, or were just vague generally without much explanation. This response fits right in with the rest..Amianki wrote:
This is pretty rich considering you've been leading this conversation the entire time.
So I'm just thinking, roles have NO effect on alignment, so there could've been a scum doctor for example? Or there could be something crazy OP like a scum dayvig?Navizel wrote:
Roles were assigned before alignments. Roles cannot be used to determine alignment.
thanks for your words of wisdom-[Jess]- wrote:
This game is getting worse
Vote: No Lynch
Will post something in later
Why do you always feel the need to put this after your posts?-[Jess]- wrote:
Will post something in later
Just avoid someone said I am lurking.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Why do you always feel the need to put this after your posts?-[Jess]- wrote:
Will post something in later
I really was struggling between you and him. If you really are a Town Hider, then it's only a great thing that I took this choice instead, don't you agree?rEdo wrote:
Irreversible, of all people?
You are lurking.-[Jess]- wrote:
Just avoid someone said I am lurking.
Omg :Faceplam:fartownik wrote:
You are lurking.-[Jess]- wrote:
Just avoid someone said I am lurking.
So what are you even trying to say with this?-[Jess]- wrote:
Just remember,I am pretty useless guy right now because I use up my power for quickhammer
You still have your opinion and vote skill no? That's pretty valuable imo. We don't just lynch someone because they lost their power.Jess wrote:
Just remember,I am pretty useless guy right now because I use up my power for quickhammer
Just go ahead if you think I am scum.I don't mind for this.
Oh also I agree with this, even though I'd say no lynch will probably end up being the best option in the end, we shouldn't just throw away the day for it, we can still use this time to question people, and find information.Drezi wrote:
We really shouldn't be talking about a no lynch this early tbh, if we don't lynch scum today, rEdo can still decide THEN not to hide if need be.
playtime should be playstyle. Fuck you autocorrect.Ace Timing wrote:
Jess's playtime is just really hard to deal with. I mean she seems scummy in any game she plays in. I wouldn't be surprised if she was actually town and just doesn't care.
This is basically the only reason I'm not 100% for a Jess lynch, to be honest. I mean as far as I know this is only her second game, but even scum wouldn't look this obvious, so I'm worried it's just her playstyle that is leading us into thinking she's scum.Ace Timing wrote:
Jess's playtime is just really hard to deal with. I mean she seems scummy in any game she plays in. I wouldn't be surprised if she was actually town and just doesn't care.
-[Jess]- wrote:
*Just go ahead lynch me if you think I am scum.I don't mind for this.
I think I just stopped giving a flying fuck about this game.Irreversible wrote:
oh lol i forgot
im in holidays , back in 4 days or so, is that too much or is replacement needed?