so you don't find anything wrong with SNB's move onto the wagon and his doings considering Tess flipped town?
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I put marks there for the keywords that you could end up twisting for your case.
Now, what I wanted to write from the very beginning.
There are three scenarios I consider for today:
Due to first scenario being the most likely, I'm all in for a SNB lynch, but goddamn IT SEEMS SO EASY THAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IT. The fact that Drezi and Frostings already voted her makes me so paranoid that I don't know what to think of all this.
SERIOUSLY, WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY: "fartownik is scum if I die, I am a Hider. I'm going to target him tonight and if he's Mafia, I will die. If he's Town, I will be protected from ANY abilities targeting me. My ability takes priority over roleblocking so I don't have to worry about Mafia roleblocking me on fartownik, and if fartownik is Town, they won't be able to kill me as well since I will be immune. If there's a Doctor in the game he should PROTECT FARTOWNIK FOR FUCKS SAKE AND WE HAVE TWO CONFIRMED TOWN YOU DUMBSHITS." YOU HAD LITERALLY NOTHING TO LOSE BESIDES THAT YOU CLAIM YOUR ROLE, WHICH YOU DID RIGHT AWAY WHEN THE DAY STARTED AND BESIDES THAT I WOULD MOST LIKELY DIE IF THE DOCTOR IS NOT THERE.
Vote: rEdo
NICE TRY NIGGA BUT YOU LOST
fartownik, you are a fucking dumb person. Drink bleach, please.
Also I'm not sure what you're mad about. That post was just a reaction test. Also about your role I only considered how you described it - that if you target Mafia you die, and if you target Town you're immune. I haven't been playing Mafia for some time and forgot that you also die when your target dies. But still, you could have guessed that a Doctor is in the game and ask for his protection on me before, but whatever.
Be my guest and elaborate instead of dropping one liners whole game.
I feel like you're making me say things you would want to say yourself but are afraid to.
Fartownik especially shouldn't claim unless it's something critical to be out in the open.
It feels like you're just abusing my lack of experience with massclaims to brush it off with shit excuses, because it's a rather delicate matter and you know I'm not sure myself if it's the right course of action.
I'm just trying to think how strong SNB's role would be if she were scum, and would need to be balanced out
1-shot unstoppable NK in the following night seems quite balanced for either alignment
(Is this even important?)
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so you're reading everyone on that wagon town? wtf?fartownik wrote:
Fuck it, Frostings is most likely scum for reading that Tess's wagon was scum-driven.
Exactly. I even explained that in one of my previous posts and you would noticed that if you were actually reading.Drezi wrote:
so you don't find anything wrong with SNB's move onto the wagon and his doings considering Tess flipped town?
No, I'm reading >almost< everyone >for< being on that wagon >null<.Frostings wrote:
so you're reading everyone on that wagon town? wtf?fartownik wrote:
Fuck it, Frostings is most likely scum for reading that Tess's wagon was scum-driven.
I put marks there for the keywords that you could end up twisting for your case.
I'm Metagross, the hider. I can select a person as a Substitute for one night. If the person I selected turned out to be town, I'm immune to all night actions on me. However, if that person is scum, I'm dying. I used my ability N1 on you as a panic move due to that fucking quickhammer. My ability takes priorityo over roleblocking. And since I'm able to post this, fartownik is conftown. If I would die last night, my flip would explain the panic post I wrote.fartownik wrote:
"You were a gorgeous pile of WIFOM considering the last posts before the flip" - So you just scream "FARTOWNIK IS SCUM IF I DIE" because you have a 'gut feeling' on me for my posts during twilight? That's quite fucking ridiculous, isn't it. It doesn't do ANYTHING but cause WIFOM and no one would fucking use that to lynch me the following day.
Now, what I wanted to write from the very beginning.
This post is the only reason I'm skeptical about voting SNB. Even though I'm 99% sure she's scum, her point is SO GODDAMN undeniable. If she somehow turned town, I would have to hit scum N2, otherwise I would be lynched. I would rather die unveiling scum than getting wrapped up in a mislynch. By the way, I have been given a Helping Hand. That means I can select two people, which makes things better for us.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Yeah alright. I've read things and would have expected better from rEdo. Now in turn they were accusing me of scumpainting while all their reasons were that I were "calling Tess names" with the exception of "I don't even know why Tess' play would be bad as town". I don't know, should I take meta as a valid argument here? This doesn't sound like the usual scumhunting rEdo to me.
So anyway, rEdo might be doing this as a scum because if Tess flips town (no she won't) I'm going to be an easy mislynch tomorrow. I think someone said this, but it could very well be that rEdo might have seen Tess' play as a perfect opportunity for protecting her while knowing that Tess in fact is a townie, thus making my accusations look false over night if that lynch happened. Also talking about how Tess' townplay isn't bad at all would be a perfect setup for a progressive 180, making Tess a possibly valuable mislynch for endgame. Just theorizing here though (inb4 called scumpainting again
Tess mentioning that it wouldn't make sense for rEdo to not jump on the wagon if he was scum is not a valid point in any way, either. Not jumping on the wagon can mean:
- Protecting a scumbuddy.
- Trying to look like the Mr. Nice Guy if the Tess lynch would happen anyway and Tess flipped town.
- Actually seeing something townish in Tess' play that nobody else is seeing.
Almost as if rEdo knew and wanted to not vote for the most suspicious person in town.
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I'll think about this more properly later today. Also I don't have time for proofreading properly now, forgive me for any possible mistakes.
There are three scenarios I consider for today:
- We lynch SNB, she flips town. I select two WIFOM bombs (Jess, Amianki) as targets in hope of confirming them town.
- We lynch SNB, she flips scum. I select one person to suicide check on her in hopes of hitting scum, so we avoid a mislynch on me.
- We lynch outside of SNB, then I select her as a target. I'm fucking ready to sacrifice myself JUST to prove that flips scum.
Due to first scenario being the most likely, I'm all in for a SNB lynch, but goddamn IT SEEMS SO EASY THAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IT. The fact that Drezi and Frostings already voted her makes me so paranoid that I don't know what to think of all this.
You're right, I missed that. And you jumped right on the opportunity to cynically softpush me for something laughable yet again.fartownik wrote:
Exactly. I even explained that in one of my previous posts and you would noticed that if you were actually reading.Drezi wrote:
so you don't find anything wrong with SNB's move onto the wagon and his doings considering Tess flipped town?
Your flip would only cause WIFOM and would not be considered as anything relevant since you didn't explain why I would be scum if you died. This only proves that you planned the whole shit because:rEdo wrote:
I'm Metagross, the hider. I can select a person as a Substitute for one night. If the person I selected turned out to be town, I'm immune to all night actions on me. However, if that person is scum, I'm dying. I used my ability N1 on you as a panic move due to that fucking quickhammer. My ability takes priorityo over roleblocking. And since I'm able to post this, fartownik is conftown. If I would die last night, my flip would explain the panic post I wrote.
SERIOUSLY, WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY: "fartownik is scum if I die, I am a Hider. I'm going to target him tonight and if he's Mafia, I will die. If he's Town, I will be protected from ANY abilities targeting me. My ability takes priority over roleblocking so I don't have to worry about Mafia roleblocking me on fartownik, and if fartownik is Town, they won't be able to kill me as well since I will be immune. If there's a Doctor in the game he should PROTECT FARTOWNIK FOR FUCKS SAKE AND WE HAVE TWO CONFIRMED TOWN YOU DUMBSHITS." YOU HAD LITERALLY NOTHING TO LOSE BESIDES THAT YOU CLAIM YOUR ROLE, WHICH YOU DID RIGHT AWAY WHEN THE DAY STARTED AND BESIDES THAT I WOULD MOST LIKELY DIE IF THE DOCTOR IS NOT THERE.
Vote: rEdo
NICE TRY NIGGA BUT YOU LOST
Connection issues? No goddamn time to write that? Are you even trying to understand me?
This is fucking ridiculous xDfartownik wrote:
Your flip would only cause WIFOM and would not be considered as anything relevant since you didn't explain why I would be scum if you died.
If you wanna lynch people because "MY HAATO TELLS ME YOU'RE SCUM YOU'VE PLOTTED EVERYTHING" then quit this game, honestly.
Okay, I'm fine with this reaction for now xD
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And you're right, I kinda forgot that when you actually flip, you would flip Hider and people would know why you said what you said and I'd be confirmed Town XD
Well, if that's the case then you're *almost* confirmed Town as well, especially considering your reaction to what I posted.
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And you're right, I kinda forgot that when you actually flip, you would flip Hider and people would know why you said what you said and I'd be confirmed Town XD
Well, if that's the case then you're *almost* confirmed Town as well, especially considering your reaction to what I posted.
rEdo do you realize that you die if your target gets killed?
And do you realize that we would've ended up with two dead, unless rEdo was the NK target? In which case it's ether someone being vigged in addition to the NK, or hider dying on scum (or together with town), which of these we would've figured out the right one based on his past post?fartownik wrote:
Your flip would only cause WIFOM and would not be considered as anything relevant since you didn't explain why I would be scum if you died.
Yeah it's also a fucking hider flip so I'm just being stupid with the vig possibility aswell.
That and the doctor flip was the reason I didn't want to claim.Drezi wrote:
rEdo do you realize that you die if your target gets killed?
fartownik, you are a fucking dumb person. Drink bleach, please.
EVEN IF I was scum, it would be in town's interest to keep me alive for a while. You prick.
No seriously, I'm done writing for today, as I would just throw meat at farto.
No seriously, I'm done writing for today, as I would just throw meat at farto.
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Just going to remind you guys about rule 1.4
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Yeah Navi, I know. That's why I'm going AFK to cool down, sorry.
Yeah Navi, I know. That's why I'm going AFK to cool down, sorry.
You *didn't* want to claim? If you didn't want to claim, you wouldn't have claimed, but you did. And it's actually good that you claimed.rEdo wrote:
That and the doctor flip was the reason I didn't want to claim.
fartownik, you are a fucking dumb person. Drink bleach, please.
Also I'm not sure what you're mad about. That post was just a reaction test. Also about your role I only considered how you described it - that if you target Mafia you die, and if you target Town you're immune. I haven't been playing Mafia for some time and forgot that you also die when your target dies. But still, you could have guessed that a Doctor is in the game and ask for his protection on me before, but whatever.
It doesn't really matter now, I'm conftown for rEdo and he's *basically* confirmed for me as well. We can go far from this today.
Got he got so fucking mad XD I can imagine him punching a wall right now.
But I don't understand why you wouldn't claim weak cop, that way scum would've tried to kill you next night, rest being the same?
Well Mafia might have role blocker and guess who doctor is and kill you, that's one. Or maybe he didn't think that up? Ockham's Razor anyone? Don't reveal anything you don't need to? If you get killed two people die. Not your best scumpaint mate.fartownik wrote:
Your flip would only cause WIFOM and would not be considered as anything relevant since you didn't explain why I would be scum if you died. This only proves that you planned the whole shit because:rEdo wrote:
I'm Metagross, the hider. I can select a person as a Substitute for one night. If the person I selected turned out to be town, I'm immune to all night actions on me. However, if that person is scum, I'm dying. I used my ability N1 on you as a panic move due to that fucking quickhammer. My ability takes priorityo over roleblocking. And since I'm able to post this, fartownik is conftown. If I would die last night, my flip would explain the panic post I wrote.
SERIOUSLY, WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY: "fartownik is scum if I die, I am a Hider. I'm going to target him tonight and if he's Mafia, I will die. If he's Town, I will be protected from ANY abilities targeting me. My ability takes priority over roleblocking so I don't have to worry about Mafia roleblocking me on fartownik, and if fartownik is Town, they won't be able to kill me as well since I will be immune. If there's a Doctor in the game he should PROTECT FARTOWNIK FOR FUCKS SAKE AND WE HAVE TWO CONFIRMED TOWN YOU DUMBSHITS." YOU HAD LITERALLY NOTHING TO LOSE BESIDES THAT YOU CLAIM YOUR ROLE, WHICH YOU DID RIGHT AWAY WHEN THE DAY STARTED AND BESIDES THAT I WOULD MOST LIKELY DIE IF THE DOCTOR IS NOT THERE.
Vote: rEdo
NICE TRY NIGGA BUT YOU LOST
Claiming hider right away hoping for protection on the target would've been bad. This whole fucking scenario is not exactly optimal play tbh.
I mean hider is supposed to confirm townies not suicide into scum in the first place.
I mean hider is supposed to confirm townies not suicide into scum in the first place.
More connection shit there that was supposed to be posted a bit earlier. I started right before Drezi posted his take on this so anything after that isn't taken into consideration.
I really don't like this post.Drezi wrote:
I'm in the process of rereading the thread, but I'm gonna address stuff from the day end before that.
farto's move onto the Tess wagon was OK, I had no problem with that and I was still feeling good about the lynch at that time.
Then in quick succession:Wait what? It would be supereffective to use the doublevote? We don't want the day to end just yet..fartownik wrote:
Also it seems like it is intending to use its doublevote on Tess, which would be supereffective!!!! Red alarm ringing !!! pure shit move on to the wagon, overexplaiming and making excuses after showing up suddenly for the lynch...Static Noise Bird wrote:
Guess it would be a good time to move my vote back onto Tess now that we're at L-2 already. I don't want to be left out of the wagon I so eagerly pushed in the beginning
Vote: Tess
And then bamm HAMMER.And then this explanation, I mean seriously if you tell Jess it'd be super effective to use the double vote, what the hell do you expect will happen?fartownik wrote:
I didnt push for a quickhammer, i just pointed out how jess appeared iut of ducking nowhere right when tess got to l2 and i noticed what she was about to doThat adhom was pretty uncalled for. I'm not sure if it's town pissed off feeling betrayed (irrationally so) or scum showing teeth when confronted.fartownik wrote:
Drezi stop scumpainting me you snake.
Stop talking. We will talk about it calmly tomorrow. At this rate im pretty sure scum is going to keep me alive to try framing me after Tess said her reads and Drezis scumpainting.STOP TALKING? We'll talk about calmly TOMORROW? You're already making excuses for why you'll be around tomorrow, in a situation like this we have no idea if we'll be around the next day, we're in a rush to get get the most info out in reaction to the quickhammer, and you think I should stop talking?fartownik wrote:
Stop talking. We will talk about it calmly tomorrow. At this rate im pretty sure scum is going to keep me alive to try framing me after Tess said her reads and Drezis scumpainting.
It's not like me saying you're scum will get you instalynched tomorrow. If I keep quiet, say nothing and you're scum, you can ride an almost flawlessly townread position, without much opposition to victory by simply NK-ing me. I had absolutely no intention risking this scenario. I brought up stuff that should be remembered, and looked at the next day. If you're town this shouldn't really be a problem.What?? Please don't give me the "I don't even" when you probably misunderstood something. I have not mentioned anything about my role.Frostings wrote:
You basically told us your role, and then pretended to be dayvig
I dont even
@Ace Timing: that's quite stretched (the guessing thing), because first: they would HAVE to have an RB and second they'd HAVE to block the Doctor, which is highly unlikely. Two roleblockers in the same game would be quite odd for sure (and yeah, I know the flip happened after rEdo posted).
But still it does not matter anymore, this post was just a reaction test. I knew rEdo most likely just didn't have time to think that up and I expected him to say that (and kinda rage XD).
But still it does not matter anymore, this post was just a reaction test. I knew rEdo most likely just didn't have time to think that up and I expected him to say that (and kinda rage XD).
Why?fartownik wrote:
@Drezi: the fact that you already vote for someone not even waiting for everyone to post after the night / potential alignment scan claim kinda itches me.
@mod: Does a hider's death via getting night-vigged and via visiting scum differ flipwise? I mean, stuff like "Hider got shot in the head Nx", "Hider went to the wrong neighbourhood Nx".
Amianki wrote:
I really don't like this post.
Be my guest and elaborate instead of dropping one liners whole game.
Because we're full of fucking PRs and it's more than likely that at least one of them has a result on someone and you'd have to switch up your vote/read anyway? So it's quite pointless to vote someone unless you want to achieve something specific by doing that.
That was my first thought, I should have gone with that now that I think about it.Drezi wrote:
But I don't understand why you wouldn't claim weak cop, that way scum would've tried to kill you next night, rest being the same?
^ to Amianki
Go into the Drezi and SNB suspicion please.Frostings wrote:
oh, Zexion was doctor
uh, what?
FoS: Drezi
HoS: Jess
Vote: SNB
Also, looks like I was roleblocked last night. Since a roleblocker was already revealed, I got jailed? which makes no sense, unless there's a jailkeeper scum??
He will not confirm this since he'd have to confirm that there is indeed a Hider this game which would break the integrity.rEdo wrote:
@mod: Does a hider's death via getting night-vigged and via visiting scum differ flipwise? I mean, stuff like "Hider got shot in the head Nx", "Hider went to the wrong neighbourhood Nx".
It looks like manipulation to try to get an SNB wagon going instead of scumhunting the wagon. You're overemphasizing SNB's contribution while spending about three words commenting on Jess' double vote hammer. Then you tried to pass it off as fartownik trying to lead Jess to the hammer. I can see one doing this regardless of Jess' alignment, but it is more likely if you two are a team.Drezi wrote:
Amianki wrote:
I really don't like this post.
Be my guest and elaborate instead of dropping one liners whole game.
But why does it 'make you itch'?fartownik wrote:
Because we're full of fucking PRs and it's more than likely that at least one of them has a result on someone and you'd have to switch up your vote/read anyway? So it's quite pointless to vote someone unless you want to achieve something specific by doing that.
Btw, rEdo your ability is practically useless already. If you target wrong, you die and scum has a free kill. If you target right, scum may as well kill you off the same night and you won't be able to confirm your target. I'd say it'd be safer for you and this game to just do nothing tonight so scum at least wastes their nightkill on you, and if by chance they decide to skip killing you, we can continue like this for the next day (with me and you confirmed, unless I die as well).
Because it's a quite rushed vote. SNB himself did not even have a chance to say anything after the day has begun and he's already being voted by Drezi.Amianki wrote:
But why does it 'make you itch'?fartownik wrote:
Because we're full of fucking PRs and it's more than likely that at least one of them has a result on someone and you'd have to switch up your vote/read anyway? So it's quite pointless to vote someone unless you want to achieve something specific by doing that.
I feel like you're making me say things you would want to say yourself but are afraid to.
I AM trying to get an SNB wagon going hello? Spending three words on Jess's hammer, what? Read my last posts from D1 maybe? That post was a recap of last day, and I elaborated on things I couldn't the day before. farto DID look like he was ok with Jess going ahead with the quickhammer, what do yo even mean by passing it off? it was me trying to figure out why'd farto say that, but it's moot now anyway with him and rEdo being pretty much confirmed.
Didn't jess explicitly say he was going to quickhammer both to prove he wasn't lying and to Lynch (perceived) scum? Now we just have to figure out whether or not he was conveniently using the situation to get town status and avoid a lynch or not.
This game.
I'll respond better tomorrow because fuck everything right now "ex dee".
I'll respond better tomorrow because fuck everything right now "ex dee".
I mean both of your conclusions and suggested tactics were so much off it I can't even make sense of it.
The point is that the way you're going about it looks like you're covering for Jess. Specifically going out of your way to not go into the hammer at all after two flips while throwing suspicion on someone for doing mostly the same thing, and another person for interactions with the hammer. It looks like you have an agenda.Drezi wrote:
I AM trying to get an SNB wagon going hello? Spending three words on Jess's hammer, what? Read my last posts from D1 maybe? That post was a recap of last day, and I elaborated on things I couldn't the day before. farto DID look like he was ok with Jess going ahead with the quickhammer, what do yo even mean by passing it off? it was me trying to figure out why'd farto say that, but it's moot now anyway with him and rEdo being pretty much confirmed.
fartownik wrote:
Because we're full of fucking PRs and it's more than likely that at least one of them has a result on someone and you'd have to switch up your vote/read anyway? So it's quite pointless to vote someone unless you want to achieve something specific by doing that.
Voting SNB doesn't exactly stop him from being able to say anything, though.fartownik wrote:
Because it's a quite rushed vote. SNB himself did not even have a chance to say anything after the day has begun and he's already being voted by Drezi.Amianki wrote:
But why does it 'make you itch'?
I feel like you're making me say things you would want to say yourself but are afraid to.
Ugh, what should I say about the hammer? I'm trying to understand people who I think I have a chance of understanding.
We told Jess to use her doublevote on farto or me, and she didn't do anything, and then dropped in to doublevote quickhammer, I wouldn't mind her being lynched at all either.
"Actually, power role heavy games should be designed predominantly around a mass claim happening day one."
So why are you not suggesting one here?
rEdo having claimed already and Frostings claiming a role that should've given him some kind of night result too it might not be a bad idea?
We told Jess to use her doublevote on farto or me, and she didn't do anything, and then dropped in to doublevote quickhammer, I wouldn't mind her being lynched at all either.
"Actually, power role heavy games should be designed predominantly around a mass claim happening day one."
So why are you not suggesting one here?
rEdo having claimed already and Frostings claiming a role that should've given him some kind of night result too it might not be a bad idea?
I'm not suggesting a massclaim because GIF reviewed the setup. I've been scum in one of his setups before; I know he's competent enough to not put his stamp of approval on a setup that would be broken so easily from a massclaim.
but jess claimed already, I don't mind claiming, our doc is out anyway, farto claiming shouldn't matter at this point am I missing something?
I mean it looks like downsides aren't significant in this situation, and forces scum to claim something.
Somehow forgot to respond to this:
Hiders are basically a commuter with a couple extra variables.fartownik wrote:
Btw, rEdo your ability is practically useless already. If you target wrong, you die and scum has a free kill. If you target right, scum may as well kill you off the same night and you won't be able to confirm your target. I'd say it'd be safer for you and this game to just do nothing tonight so scum at least wastes their nightkill on you, and if by chance they decide to skip killing you, we can continue like this for the next day (with me and you confirmed, unless I die as well).
I'm not comfortable with mass claiming unless there's a specific reason to.Drezi wrote:
but jess claimed already, I don't mind claiming, our doc is out anyway, farto claiming shouldn't matter at this point am I missing something?
Fartownik especially shouldn't claim unless it's something critical to be out in the open.
I think you need to explain that better because I might be missing something but it doesn't really make sense.
Also you're not really doing a good job explaining why it wouldn't be good, other than you not feeling confortable with it, unless there's a specific reason which is vague as hell.
And I'm pretty sure you could explain it clearly without it being anti-town to any degree.
He's confirmed town unless he and rEdo are part of the scumteam. Let scum worry about what kind of role he has. Town doesn't need to know unless there's a reason it should be outed.
If they're not a scumteam Fartownik is getting killed next night in all likeliness, so yeah your point is?
The point is that we don't need to know his role unless he thinks we do. I don't understand what's so difficult to understand about this.
You don't need to know my role.
I don't think a massclaim would be useful at all at this point. More likely tomorrow.
Also again I fucked up the Hider thing, that role messes with my fucking brain. I feel like Irre right now.
I'm actually opting for a Jess lynch today. I get Town vibrations from both Amianki and Drezi, Drezi especially for bringing up why Amianki doesn't want a massclaim this game if he's such a supporter of them in PR-strong games. I don't want a lynch of neither of those today.
So yeah, from my point of view:
Town: rEdo, Magic Bomb
Null-town: Drezi, Amianki, Irreversible
I-dont-know-because-I-have-to-read-his-ISO-and-other-shit-because-others-say-he-is-suspicious-but-gut-says-Town: SNB
Null: Ace Timing
Scum: Jess, Frostings
So yeah, there is 3 scum so at least one of my reads is not correct.
I don't think a massclaim would be useful at all at this point. More likely tomorrow.
Also again I fucked up the Hider thing, that role messes with my fucking brain. I feel like Irre right now.
I'm actually opting for a Jess lynch today. I get Town vibrations from both Amianki and Drezi, Drezi especially for bringing up why Amianki doesn't want a massclaim this game if he's such a supporter of them in PR-strong games. I don't want a lynch of neither of those today.
So yeah, from my point of view:
Town: rEdo, Magic Bomb
Null-town: Drezi, Amianki, Irreversible
I-dont-know-because-I-have-to-read-his-ISO-and-other-shit-because-others-say-he-is-suspicious-but-gut-says-Town: SNB
Null: Ace Timing
Scum: Jess, Frostings
So yeah, there is 3 scum so at least one of my reads is not correct.
I should've put rEdo on a higher tier than Magic Bomb tho, just a cosmetic thing.
Rip, I'm either null or null-scum for everyone
Thanks sniverre
Thanks sniverre
Well it's more of how you play this game, not Sniverre.
Also I will try to get more from the past day and Tess' reads tomorrow. I will be going to sleep in a short while.
Also I will try to get more from the past day and Tess' reads tomorrow. I will be going to sleep in a short while.
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Brendan is just chillin' with a Team Magma Grunt
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fartownik -
Drezi (1) - Amianki
Irreversible -
-[Jess]- -
rEdo -
Ace Timing -
- Magic Bomb - -
Frostings -
Amianki -
Static Noise Bird (2) - Drezi, Frostings
Not Voting: -[Jess]-, Ace Timing, Irreversible, rEdo, Magic Bomb, Static Noise Bird, fartownik
With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
Deadline is on August 2 11:13AM GMT -5. This is 10 days from now.
Let me know if I made any mistakes.
fartownik -
Drezi (1) - Amianki
Irreversible -
-[Jess]- -
rEdo -
Ace Timing -
- Magic Bomb - -
Frostings -
Amianki -
Static Noise Bird (2) - Drezi, Frostings
Not Voting: -[Jess]-, Ace Timing, Irreversible, rEdo, Magic Bomb, Static Noise Bird, fartownik
With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
Deadline is on August 2 11:13AM GMT -5. This is 10 days from now.
Let me know if I made any mistakes.
mod are ya scum
lol
@Mod: V/LA until August 2nd. I have the ugliest week and a half at work coming up and I'd be surprised if it didn't mentally kill me at least one day before then.
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August 2nd is the deadline...
I never said it's because we NEED to know fartownik's role, town PR's being identified is obviously a downside to a massclaim (if otherwise they'd be getting killed next night anyway, not so much..), and the advantage is forcing scum to come out and stick with a claim limiting their wiggle room and being held accountable for their night action choices.Amianki wrote:
The point is that we don't need to know his role unless he thinks we do. I don't understand what's so difficult to understand about this.
It feels like you're just abusing my lack of experience with massclaims to brush it off with shit excuses, because it's a rather delicate matter and you know I'm not sure myself if it's the right course of action.
man I'm confused as shit
I don't think I should be roleclaiming right now. I only wanted to before because I couldn't think of any scenario where my action got cancelled.
But I'm just dumb apparently.
I'm getting certain pings from Amianki, though apparently I'm bad at interpreting them. For now I'll put it at the back of my mind.
Reads:
Town:
fartow + rEdo (unless they're a scumteam, but hider claim as mafia is kinda hard to pull off)
MB
Null-town:
Amianki, Irre
Null:
Ace Timing
Jess (now that I think about it, his hammer doesn't actually indicate anything, could just be derp town, but I'm ok with PL)
Null-scum:
Drezi
Scum:
SNB
I don't think I should be roleclaiming right now. I only wanted to before because I couldn't think of any scenario where my action got cancelled.
But I'm just dumb apparently.
I'm getting certain pings from Amianki, though apparently I'm bad at interpreting them. For now I'll put it at the back of my mind.
Reads:
Town:
fartow + rEdo (unless they're a scumteam, but hider claim as mafia is kinda hard to pull off)
MB
Null-town:
Amianki, Irre
Null:
Ace Timing
Jess (now that I think about it, his hammer doesn't actually indicate anything, could just be derp town, but I'm ok with PL)
Null-scum:
Drezi
Scum:
SNB
If I'm so scum then stop keeping me around please to avoid any more confusion or mislynches or whatever you call them. This game turned bad during the very first pages anyway.
I've completed my 1-shot ability anyway which might have poisoned the town even more (though I did target my main scum suspect).
I'll just stay on Mafiascum in the future. lol bye
I've completed my 1-shot ability anyway which might have poisoned the town even more (though I did target my main scum suspect).
I'll just stay on Mafiascum in the future. lol bye
What did you do? No comment to what's happening, either?Static Noise Bird wrote:
If I'm so scum then stop keeping me around please to avoid any more confusion or mislynches or whatever you call them. This game turned bad during the very first pages anyway.
I've completed my 1-shot ability anyway which might have poisoned the town even more (though I did target my main scum suspect).
I'll just stay on Mafiascum in the future. lol bye
If you didn't react so strongly to my obvious joke about myself almost being left out of my own wagon, you'd be town but idk.
farto is leaning town after the initial FoS I had on him, obviously mostly due to similar viewpoints on things later during the previous day.
Something about Amianki tells me that they are town, but I'll be less confident about this and say null-town because it's mostly gut based I guess.
Frostings is obviously scum. tbh I don't take him seriously anymore so let's say null.
rEdo should be just 500 pounds of lies in a 100 pound bag. I believe there can not be this many power roles (or then everyone who has not claimed/revealed simply must be Vanilla). Besides Tess' flip kinda proved rEdo to be the suspicious Mr. Nice Guy that we were suspecting already.
The one I targeted with my ability who will die the next night is my personal main scum suspect. If a scum dies next night you'll probably know who I'm talking about. If not, then whoops, my bad. Yes, I'm claiming Seviper the Poisoner.
Everyone not mentioned is null unless I completely forgot someone, who in that case is probably not just notable enough to be considered either town or scum.
Vote: rEdo
farto is leaning town after the initial FoS I had on him, obviously mostly due to similar viewpoints on things later during the previous day.
Something about Amianki tells me that they are town, but I'll be less confident about this and say null-town because it's mostly gut based I guess.
Frostings is obviously scum.
tbh I don't take him seriously anymore so let's say null.rEdo should be just 500 pounds of lies in a 100 pound bag. I believe there can not be this many power roles (or then everyone who has not claimed/revealed simply must be Vanilla). Besides Tess' flip kinda proved rEdo to be the suspicious Mr. Nice Guy that we were suspecting already.
The one I targeted with my ability who will die the next night is my personal main scum suspect. If a scum dies next night you'll probably know who I'm talking about. If not, then whoops, my bad. Yes, I'm claiming Seviper the Poisoner.
Everyone not mentioned is null unless I completely forgot someone, who in that case is probably not just notable enough to be considered either town or scum.
Vote: rEdo
So still no case against me except for I believed Tess was town. Apparently townreading a person that flipped town now is a scumtell. And that appeal to probability, nice. I really loved how you dismissed my question about sheeping fartownik, too :^)
Do you realise that EVEN IF I'm scum it would be in town's interest to keep me alive for one/two more days? I'd rather die by getting killed together with my target than giving scum an easy mislynch. That's what you're trying to do right now, aren't you?
Do you realise that EVEN IF I'm scum it would be in town's interest to keep me alive for one/two more days? I'd rather die by getting killed together with my target than giving scum an easy mislynch. That's what you're trying to do right now, aren't you?
btw did you poison Drezi or me? I don't think there's a reason to hide this.
This is pretty rich considering you've been leading this conversation the entire time.Drezi wrote:
I never said it's because we NEED to know fartownik's role, town PR's being identified is obviously a downside to a massclaim (if otherwise they'd be getting killed next night anyway, not so much..), and the advantage is forcing scum to come out and stick with a claim limiting their wiggle room and being held accountable for their night action choices.Amianki wrote:
The point is that we don't need to know his role unless he thinks we do. I don't understand what's so difficult to understand about this.
It feels like you're just abusing my lack of experience with massclaims to brush it off with shit excuses, because it's a rather delicate matter and you know I'm not sure myself if it's the right course of action.
SNB needs to read this thread. I believe everyone is a PR this game and rEdo's claim seems very legit in my eyes. I don't get your point honestly. I also want you to claim your target immediately. The Poisoned's death can not be stopped so you may as well share that with us. I'd say this claim was a bold move if you're scum. You basically tells us there will be two nightkills next night plus today's lynch, making us consider a potential no-lynch option for today or to be EXTREMELY careful with the lynch.
I still don't know whether Amianki is just busy with irl stuff so much that he plays this game half-assedly or potentially scum. At least the first seems to be the case so, @mod: asking for a replacement for Amianki. Having a V/LA of 10 days is too much on this forums. We may as well get Nyquill in here.
Also I will just stick to what I think is the best for today.
Vote: Jess
I still don't know whether Amianki is just busy with irl stuff so much that he plays this game half-assedly or potentially scum. At least the first seems to be the case so, @mod: asking for a replacement for Amianki. Having a V/LA of 10 days is too much on this forums. We may as well get Nyquill in here.
Also I will just stick to what I think is the best for today.
Vote: Jess
It was Irre.
I had an idea I thought might be good, but wasn't sure, and you said we shouldn't do it, but brought up points that didn't make sense to me, or were just vague generally without much explanation. This response fits right in with the rest..Amianki wrote:
This is pretty rich considering you've been leading this conversation the entire time.
If SNB tells the truth, it's possible for us to lose this game even tonight, but it's unlikely. Irre's death, rEdo's hider miss, nightkill, lynch, it's 4 deaths from which 2 are 100% Town (rEdo and NK), if the remaining 2 hit Town as well it's 6p = 50/50 scum control = lose. rEdo you you should either do nothing or hide behind an obvtown for you and we should seriously think about a nolynch.
Irreversible, of all people?...
*shrugs*
Vote: No Lynch
I need everyone else's insight before anything happens. Especially SNB and Frostings. For now, I opt for a no lynch.
*shrugs*
Vote: No Lynch
I need everyone else's insight before anything happens. Especially SNB and Frostings. For now, I opt for a no lynch.
We should consider a no lynch yes, but it'd be kinda pointless to just let the day pass by without any pressure on anyone.
Also at this point I really don't see why a mass claim wouldn't be good, like seriously.
Also at this point I really don't see why a mass claim wouldn't be good, like seriously.
This game is getting worse
Vote: No Lynch
Will post something in later
Vote: No Lynch
Will post something in later
So I'm just thinking, roles have NO effect on alignment, so there could've been a scum doctor for example? Or there could be something crazy OP like a scum dayvig?Navizel wrote:
Roles were assigned before alignments. Roles cannot be used to determine alignment.
I'm just trying to think how strong SNB's role would be if she were scum, and would need to be balanced out
1-shot unstoppable NK in the following night seems quite balanced for either alignment
(Is this even important?)
even if you want a No Lynch you have no reason to vote it, it removes any pressure and also we don't want to end the day by hitting 5 votes of it somehow before we intend to.
thanks for your words of wisdom-[Jess]- wrote:
This game is getting worse
Vote: No Lynch
Will post something in later
Jfc fine, cancel the vla. I'll just prod dodge if that happens instead.
We really shouldn't be talking about a no lynch this early tbh, if we don't lynch scum today, rEdo can still decide THEN not to hide if need be.
Why do you always feel the need to put this after your posts?-[Jess]- wrote:
Will post something in later