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You *didn't* want to claim? If you didn't want to claim, you wouldn't have claimed, but you did. And it's actually good that you claimed.rEdo wrote:
That and the doctor flip was the reason I didn't want to claim.
fartownik, you are a fucking dumb person. Drink bleach, please.
Also I'm not sure what you're mad about. That post was just a reaction test. Also about your role I only considered how you described it - that if you target Mafia you die, and if you target Town you're immune. I haven't been playing Mafia for some time and forgot that you also die when your target dies. But still, you could have guessed that a Doctor is in the game and ask for his protection on me before, but whatever.
It doesn't really matter now, I'm conftown for rEdo and he's *basically* confirmed for me as well. We can go far from this today.
Got he got so fucking mad XD I can imagine him punching a wall right now.
But I don't understand why you wouldn't claim weak cop, that way scum would've tried to kill you next night, rest being the same?
Well Mafia might have role blocker and guess who doctor is and kill you, that's one. Or maybe he didn't think that up? Ockham's Razor anyone? Don't reveal anything you don't need to? If you get killed two people die. Not your best scumpaint mate.fartownik wrote:
Your flip would only cause WIFOM and would not be considered as anything relevant since you didn't explain why I would be scum if you died. This only proves that you planned the whole shit because:rEdo wrote:
I'm Metagross, the hider. I can select a person as a Substitute for one night. If the person I selected turned out to be town, I'm immune to all night actions on me. However, if that person is scum, I'm dying. I used my ability N1 on you as a panic move due to that fucking quickhammer. My ability takes priorityo over roleblocking. And since I'm able to post this, fartownik is conftown. If I would die last night, my flip would explain the panic post I wrote.
SERIOUSLY, WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY: "fartownik is scum if I die, I am a Hider. I'm going to target him tonight and if he's Mafia, I will die. If he's Town, I will be protected from ANY abilities targeting me. My ability takes priority over roleblocking so I don't have to worry about Mafia roleblocking me on fartownik, and if fartownik is Town, they won't be able to kill me as well since I will be immune. If there's a Doctor in the game he should PROTECT FARTOWNIK FOR FUCKS SAKE AND WE HAVE TWO CONFIRMED TOWN YOU DUMBSHITS." YOU HAD LITERALLY NOTHING TO LOSE BESIDES THAT YOU CLAIM YOUR ROLE, WHICH YOU DID RIGHT AWAY WHEN THE DAY STARTED AND BESIDES THAT I WOULD MOST LIKELY DIE IF THE DOCTOR IS NOT THERE.
Vote: rEdo
NICE TRY NIGGA BUT YOU LOST
Claiming hider right away hoping for protection on the target would've been bad. This whole fucking scenario is not exactly optimal play tbh.
I mean hider is supposed to confirm townies not suicide into scum in the first place.
I mean hider is supposed to confirm townies not suicide into scum in the first place.
More connection shit there that was supposed to be posted a bit earlier. I started right before Drezi posted his take on this so anything after that isn't taken into consideration.
I really don't like this post.Drezi wrote:
I'm in the process of rereading the thread, but I'm gonna address stuff from the day end before that.
farto's move onto the Tess wagon was OK, I had no problem with that and I was still feeling good about the lynch at that time.
Then in quick succession:Wait what? It would be supereffective to use the doublevote? We don't want the day to end just yet..fartownik wrote:
Also it seems like it is intending to use its doublevote on Tess, which would be supereffective!!!! Red alarm ringing !!! pure shit move on to the wagon, overexplaiming and making excuses after showing up suddenly for the lynch...Static Noise Bird wrote:
Guess it would be a good time to move my vote back onto Tess now that we're at L-2 already. I don't want to be left out of the wagon I so eagerly pushed in the beginning
Vote: Tess
And then bamm HAMMER.And then this explanation, I mean seriously if you tell Jess it'd be super effective to use the double vote, what the hell do you expect will happen?fartownik wrote:
I didnt push for a quickhammer, i just pointed out how jess appeared iut of ducking nowhere right when tess got to l2 and i noticed what she was about to doThat adhom was pretty uncalled for. I'm not sure if it's town pissed off feeling betrayed (irrationally so) or scum showing teeth when confronted.fartownik wrote:
Drezi stop scumpainting me you snake.
Stop talking. We will talk about it calmly tomorrow. At this rate im pretty sure scum is going to keep me alive to try framing me after Tess said her reads and Drezis scumpainting.STOP TALKING? We'll talk about calmly TOMORROW? You're already making excuses for why you'll be around tomorrow, in a situation like this we have no idea if we'll be around the next day, we're in a rush to get get the most info out in reaction to the quickhammer, and you think I should stop talking?fartownik wrote:
Stop talking. We will talk about it calmly tomorrow. At this rate im pretty sure scum is going to keep me alive to try framing me after Tess said her reads and Drezis scumpainting.
It's not like me saying you're scum will get you instalynched tomorrow. If I keep quiet, say nothing and you're scum, you can ride an almost flawlessly townread position, without much opposition to victory by simply NK-ing me. I had absolutely no intention risking this scenario. I brought up stuff that should be remembered, and looked at the next day. If you're town this shouldn't really be a problem.What?? Please don't give me the "I don't even" when you probably misunderstood something. I have not mentioned anything about my role.Frostings wrote:
You basically told us your role, and then pretended to be dayvig
I dont even
@Ace Timing: that's quite stretched (the guessing thing), because first: they would HAVE to have an RB and second they'd HAVE to block the Doctor, which is highly unlikely. Two roleblockers in the same game would be quite odd for sure (and yeah, I know the flip happened after rEdo posted).
But still it does not matter anymore, this post was just a reaction test. I knew rEdo most likely just didn't have time to think that up and I expected him to say that (and kinda rage XD).
But still it does not matter anymore, this post was just a reaction test. I knew rEdo most likely just didn't have time to think that up and I expected him to say that (and kinda rage XD).
Why?fartownik wrote:
@Drezi: the fact that you already vote for someone not even waiting for everyone to post after the night / potential alignment scan claim kinda itches me.
@mod: Does a hider's death via getting night-vigged and via visiting scum differ flipwise? I mean, stuff like "Hider got shot in the head Nx", "Hider went to the wrong neighbourhood Nx".
Amianki wrote:
I really don't like this post.
Be my guest and elaborate instead of dropping one liners whole game.
Because we're full of fucking PRs and it's more than likely that at least one of them has a result on someone and you'd have to switch up your vote/read anyway? So it's quite pointless to vote someone unless you want to achieve something specific by doing that.
That was my first thought, I should have gone with that now that I think about it.Drezi wrote:
But I don't understand why you wouldn't claim weak cop, that way scum would've tried to kill you next night, rest being the same?
^ to Amianki
Go into the Drezi and SNB suspicion please.Frostings wrote:
oh, Zexion was doctor
uh, what?
FoS: Drezi
HoS: Jess
Vote: SNB
Also, looks like I was roleblocked last night. Since a roleblocker was already revealed, I got jailed? which makes no sense, unless there's a jailkeeper scum??
He will not confirm this since he'd have to confirm that there is indeed a Hider this game which would break the integrity.rEdo wrote:
@mod: Does a hider's death via getting night-vigged and via visiting scum differ flipwise? I mean, stuff like "Hider got shot in the head Nx", "Hider went to the wrong neighbourhood Nx".
It looks like manipulation to try to get an SNB wagon going instead of scumhunting the wagon. You're overemphasizing SNB's contribution while spending about three words commenting on Jess' double vote hammer. Then you tried to pass it off as fartownik trying to lead Jess to the hammer. I can see one doing this regardless of Jess' alignment, but it is more likely if you two are a team.Drezi wrote:
Amianki wrote:
I really don't like this post.
Be my guest and elaborate instead of dropping one liners whole game.
But why does it 'make you itch'?fartownik wrote:
Because we're full of fucking PRs and it's more than likely that at least one of them has a result on someone and you'd have to switch up your vote/read anyway? So it's quite pointless to vote someone unless you want to achieve something specific by doing that.
Btw, rEdo your ability is practically useless already. If you target wrong, you die and scum has a free kill. If you target right, scum may as well kill you off the same night and you won't be able to confirm your target. I'd say it'd be safer for you and this game to just do nothing tonight so scum at least wastes their nightkill on you, and if by chance they decide to skip killing you, we can continue like this for the next day (with me and you confirmed, unless I die as well).
Because it's a quite rushed vote. SNB himself did not even have a chance to say anything after the day has begun and he's already being voted by Drezi.Amianki wrote:
But why does it 'make you itch'?fartownik wrote:
Because we're full of fucking PRs and it's more than likely that at least one of them has a result on someone and you'd have to switch up your vote/read anyway? So it's quite pointless to vote someone unless you want to achieve something specific by doing that.
I feel like you're making me say things you would want to say yourself but are afraid to.
I AM trying to get an SNB wagon going hello? Spending three words on Jess's hammer, what? Read my last posts from D1 maybe? That post was a recap of last day, and I elaborated on things I couldn't the day before. farto DID look like he was ok with Jess going ahead with the quickhammer, what do yo even mean by passing it off? it was me trying to figure out why'd farto say that, but it's moot now anyway with him and rEdo being pretty much confirmed.
Didn't jess explicitly say he was going to quickhammer both to prove he wasn't lying and to Lynch (perceived) scum? Now we just have to figure out whether or not he was conveniently using the situation to get town status and avoid a lynch or not.
This game.
I'll respond better tomorrow because fuck everything right now "ex dee".
I'll respond better tomorrow because fuck everything right now "ex dee".
I mean both of your conclusions and suggested tactics were so much off it I can't even make sense of it.
The point is that the way you're going about it looks like you're covering for Jess. Specifically going out of your way to not go into the hammer at all after two flips while throwing suspicion on someone for doing mostly the same thing, and another person for interactions with the hammer. It looks like you have an agenda.Drezi wrote:
I AM trying to get an SNB wagon going hello? Spending three words on Jess's hammer, what? Read my last posts from D1 maybe? That post was a recap of last day, and I elaborated on things I couldn't the day before. farto DID look like he was ok with Jess going ahead with the quickhammer, what do yo even mean by passing it off? it was me trying to figure out why'd farto say that, but it's moot now anyway with him and rEdo being pretty much confirmed.
fartownik wrote:
Because we're full of fucking PRs and it's more than likely that at least one of them has a result on someone and you'd have to switch up your vote/read anyway? So it's quite pointless to vote someone unless you want to achieve something specific by doing that.
Voting SNB doesn't exactly stop him from being able to say anything, though.fartownik wrote:
Because it's a quite rushed vote. SNB himself did not even have a chance to say anything after the day has begun and he's already being voted by Drezi.Amianki wrote:
But why does it 'make you itch'?
I feel like you're making me say things you would want to say yourself but are afraid to.
Ugh, what should I say about the hammer? I'm trying to understand people who I think I have a chance of understanding.
We told Jess to use her doublevote on farto or me, and she didn't do anything, and then dropped in to doublevote quickhammer, I wouldn't mind her being lynched at all either.
"Actually, power role heavy games should be designed predominantly around a mass claim happening day one."
So why are you not suggesting one here?
rEdo having claimed already and Frostings claiming a role that should've given him some kind of night result too it might not be a bad idea?
We told Jess to use her doublevote on farto or me, and she didn't do anything, and then dropped in to doublevote quickhammer, I wouldn't mind her being lynched at all either.
"Actually, power role heavy games should be designed predominantly around a mass claim happening day one."
So why are you not suggesting one here?
rEdo having claimed already and Frostings claiming a role that should've given him some kind of night result too it might not be a bad idea?
I'm not suggesting a massclaim because GIF reviewed the setup. I've been scum in one of his setups before; I know he's competent enough to not put his stamp of approval on a setup that would be broken so easily from a massclaim.
but jess claimed already, I don't mind claiming, our doc is out anyway, farto claiming shouldn't matter at this point am I missing something?
I mean it looks like downsides aren't significant in this situation, and forces scum to claim something.
Somehow forgot to respond to this:
Hiders are basically a commuter with a couple extra variables.fartownik wrote:
Btw, rEdo your ability is practically useless already. If you target wrong, you die and scum has a free kill. If you target right, scum may as well kill you off the same night and you won't be able to confirm your target. I'd say it'd be safer for you and this game to just do nothing tonight so scum at least wastes their nightkill on you, and if by chance they decide to skip killing you, we can continue like this for the next day (with me and you confirmed, unless I die as well).
I'm not comfortable with mass claiming unless there's a specific reason to.Drezi wrote:
but jess claimed already, I don't mind claiming, our doc is out anyway, farto claiming shouldn't matter at this point am I missing something?
Fartownik especially shouldn't claim unless it's something critical to be out in the open.
I think you need to explain that better because I might be missing something but it doesn't really make sense.
Also you're not really doing a good job explaining why it wouldn't be good, other than you not feeling confortable with it, unless there's a specific reason which is vague as hell.