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Delis

1,433 posts

Joined May 2012

Delis 2014-06-07T08:37:41+00:00

hello

General

Add a timing point on 00:04:217 - for making consistency with all diffs. only mania diffs have this timing point, it is unrankable (I asked a bat about it >.>)
also probably you can remove widescreen support since the mapset does not have any SB, though I don't really know taiko and mania are need that.

gowww's Extra

00:19:967 (1,2) - すごいどうでもいい事だと思うんですが、実際にプレイした時に前のスライダーと少し被るので、distance+0.1 くらいしてずらしてあげませんか！そのほうが全体的な見た目もまとまって見えて良いと思います。
SPOILER
00:27:617 (3,4,5) - プレイしてみた時少し流れが良くないかな、と思いました、普通だったらこういう配置は好きなんですが、スライダーのせいか少し叩きにくい感じがありました。少し下のほうに移動させて叩きやすいようにスライダーの角度もそれに合わせて少し変えてみませんか、こんな感じに！
SPOILER
00:31:967 (3) - 恐らくwhistleとかここに合います。
00:33:767 (1) - 多分finishです。
00:48:767 (1,4,2,3) - 提案です、このcircle4個と、00:49:967 (1) - の頭、00:50:267 (2) - の終わり、00:50:717 (5) - の頭に clap入れてみてはどうでしょう、曲ととてもマッチすると思います、ただclapをあんまり使ってない(使いたくない?)ようなのであくまで提案です！
01:07:594 (4,5,6) - 大丈夫だと思いますが、少しタイミングがよくわからなかったです。大丈夫だと思いますが一応書いておきます。
01:15:694 (1) - ここの大きめの音に合わせてfinish入れるのもアリじゃないでしょうか、試してみてください。
02:12:764 (1) - add finish～
02:15:164 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - かなり叩きずらいと言うか、プレイしててリズムがよくわかんない感じでした。覚えれば叩けると思いますが、streamパートでここだけ難易度がかなり違うので、02:07:964 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - ここと似たリズムにして難易度を少し下げてあげれば、このパートの全体的な難易度バランスも良い感じになると思います。
02:20:414 (3) - 1 downbeat に1 finishだけだと少し寂しく感じたので、ここの頭にfinish、02:20:414 (3) - ここの頭にもfinish、みたいな感じでfinishを追加してみてもいいかもしれません、そうすると02:35:564 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - 最後のここのヒットサウンドがもっと盛り上がるように聞こえて良い感じになると思います、試してみてください～。

ところどころのスピナーでvolume 5%が使われていますが、確かunrank要素だった気がしますので10%まで上げちゃっていいと思います。ただそれがunrank要素だという確証は無いです。orz

Another

00:18:617 (4) - maybe sampleset:Normal or something on the head, 00:20:717 (7) - this too, umm also you added whistles for similar sound in 00:27:617 (3) - this part, so add whistle to 00:18:617 (4) - 00:20:717 (7) -, or add like clap sound them and change from whistle to somehow clap sound in 00:27:617 (3) - part as well.
00:22:967 (1) - I think... sampleset:Normal or clap on the head will better fit than only a whistle to somehow clap sound here, 00:24:167 (4) - 00:25:367 (4) - these also would fit~
00:40:367 (1,1,1,3) - add Sampleset:Normal like that you added before, suddenly only whistles are really empty to hear for me. and maybe add a finish 00:40:367 (1) - , also 00:41:717 (3) - 00:42:167 (5) - if you add NC them, it more colorfully for eyes~ oh it is NC spam.
00:44:267 (4) - I would rather to move the slider end point to make a toward 00:44:567 (1) - , I think it will be really nice flow for 00:44:567 (1) - than that you did current one. also probably you could add Sampleset:Normal on the head.
SPOILER
00:45:467 (4,1) - add Sampleset:Normal on the head, like you added on 00:44:567 (1,2) -
00:56:103 (2) - Make same distance with 00:55:653 (1,3) - , I think it should be fit for this pattern, try it out.
01:09:094 (1) - add whistle on the head?
01:24:094 (3,5) - You can add NC them if want make more easier to read this jump. 01:23:794 (3) - I wanted to add here too, but if added it, it will break the follow point of 1 and 2 (I MEAN:)
SPOILER
01:31:144 (2) - I hear the pitch is lower than a before circle if my ears are not shit, so 01:31:144 (2,3) - ctrl + g for making a natural flow. (and... honestly I don't really like 01:31:144 (2) - stack on 01:30:694 (4) - head, it's really hard for me to read on HIDDEN mod LOL)
01:32:344 (8) - nazi, make straight flow from 01:32:044 (7) - , I feel sound better here.
SPOILER
01:46:664 (3) - I'm not sure what this slider follows, you just try to follow the sound of song exactly for making consistency the hitsounds~:
SPOILER

oh, also for example of place:
01:50:264 (5) - change to 4 circles, just I love it to play!
02:07:964 (1) - I don't know you forget to add some hitsound (sampleset:Normal) on the head, and 02:09:164 (1) - , 02:09:614 (4) - . it's okay if these are intentional, though I would recommend to add to them as well!
02:21:464 (5) - Try to stack on 02:21:314 (4) - , since these 2 circles have same sound, a triangle is also okay but it would sound better for here.
02:25:964 (6,7,8) - This flow reminds me Frostmourne's map Q____Q lol
02:35:564 (1) - add a clap here, maybe can hear something like clap sound, and02:36:464 (5,6,7,8) - You could add clap here, if you don't wanna add clap to all of them, just add on white tick and blue tick or...

cheesiest's Hyper

00:55:653 (1) - nazi, move 1 glid right to avoid overlapping.
00:56:853 (4,5,6) - these made me confusing when test play this, I don't know why you suddenly made 1/1 rhythm, just change to sliders or something to make smooth flow and avoid to make confusing x.x
SPOILER
00:59:103 (1) - 3rd red point is unnecessary because there's no noise sound LOL
01:22:894 (1) - remove NC and add 01:23:794 (3) - here instead, I think keeping NC in same rhythm to keep follow point is necessary, especially for slow part like here. you just wanna keep the consistency of NC, just ignore this.
01:42:764 (4) - maybe change to 1/1 slider and add a circle on 01:43:214, the flow was really uncomfortable to play for me.
SPOILER
02:06:314 - I thought you forgot to add a circle, if it is intentional, I would recommend to add circle or move 02:06:014 (3) - slider end on 02:06:314

Normal

00:28:967 (4) - add a clap?
00:31:067 (4) - maybe you can add a circle with clap for flow.
00:35:567 (6) - add a whistle on the head to follow somehow bell sound.
00:40:367 (1) - add a finish on the head~
00:46:667 (1) - probably this and 00:48:767 (1) - this too ^
00:54:453 (4) - remove whistle on tail, it does not fit here for my ears
00:56:853 (3) - add a whistle?
01:15:694 (1) - the whistle is also fitting here, but finish would more fit on kind of big sound.
01:32:494 (1) - Sampleset:Normal, it would better fit here and you did it in Another diff.
01:50:564 (4) - maybe distance, if it is not intentional.
01:57:164 (3) - You can add whistle on the end, 01:58:964 (2) - and this too. I'm not sure you like this though.
02:07:964 (1) - Sampleset:Normal on the head, as you added on 02:05:564 (1) - , 02:03:164 (1) -
02:16:364 (1) - if you added some whistle on 01:57:164 (3) -, you can also add on the head and 02:18:164 (2,4) - on these head.
02:22:064 (2) - I suppose you forgot to add Sampleset:Normal here.
02:25:964 (1) - Sampleset:Normal on the head also fit here I guess, try it out
02:30:914 (1) - Add Sampleset:Normal here~
02:31:214 (2) - ^ on the tail

maybe you can apply some hitsounds for your other diffs that I pointed out about missing hitsound in this diff.

Beginner
omg there are still 3.5 stars

00:30:317 (2) - I guess add Sampleset:Normal instead of the whistle.
00:34:967 (3) - add a whistle on the end~
01:25:294 (1) - change this curve towards 01:25:894 (2) - head, it plays much better imo.
SPOILER
01:31:294 (3) - this too, maybe it can only do CTRL + J
01:43:964 (2) - Sampleset:Normal on the head.
01:46:364 (2) - This stack is a little hard to play for easiest diff, I think. try change out to another way, like this:
SPOILER

good luck! ~~I wrote sampleset:normal 13 times~~

izzydemon

1,382 posts

Joined April 2013

izzydemon 2014-06-07T11:45:02+00:00

00:49:217 (2,3) - this just looks kinda ugly to me wouldn't a blanket with the head of 3 be nicer (cheesiest's hyper)
not a mod
good luck

Leader

osu! Alumni

1,849 posts

Joined January 2011

Topic Starter

Leader 2014-06-07T16:26:01+00:00

Delis

Delis wrote:
hello

General
Add a timing point on 00:04:217 - for making consistency with all diffs. only mania diffs have this timing point, it is unrankable (I asked a bat about it >.>) well yeah, ExPew added a needed red line
also probably you can remove widescreen support since the mapset does not have any SB, though I don't really know taiko and mania are need that. Not a big deal.. will fix later

Another
00:18:617 (4) - maybe sampleset:Normal or something on the head, 00:20:717 (7) - this too, umm also you added whistles for similar sound in 00:27:617 (3) - this part, so add whistle to 00:18:617 (4) - 00:20:717 (7) -, or add like clap sound them and change from whistle to somehow clap sound in 00:27:617 (3) - part as well.
00:22:967 (1) - I think... sampleset:Normal or clap on the head will better fit than only a whistle to somehow clap sound here, 00:24:167 (4) - 00:25:367 (4) - these also would fit~
00:40:367 (1,1,1,3) - add Sampleset:Normal like that you added before, suddenly only whistles are really empty to hear for me. and maybe add a finish 00:40:367 (1) - , also 00:41:717 (3) - 00:42:167 (5) - if you add NC them, it more colorfully for eyes~ oh it is NC spam. I'm adding whistles with a 3/2 gap, so no. And there are way too many NCs now.. orz
00:44:267 (4) - I would rather to move the slider end point to make a toward 00:44:567 (1) - , I think it will be really nice flow for 00:44:567 (1) - than that you did current one. also probably you could add Sampleset:Normal on the head.
SPOILER
00:45:467 (4,1) - add Sampleset:Normal on the head, like you added on 00:44:567 (1,2) -
00:56:103 (2) - Make same distance with 00:55:653 (1,3) - , I think it should be fit for this pattern, try it out.
01:09:094 (1) - add whistle on the head?
01:24:094 (3,5) - You can add NC them if want make more easier to read this jump. 01:23:794 (3) - I wanted to add here too, but if added it, it will break the follow point of 1 and 2 (I MEAN:)
SPOILER

01:31:144 (2) - I hear the pitch is lower than a before circle if my ears are not shit, so 01:31:144 (2,3) - ctrl + g for making a natural flow. (and... honestly I don't really like 01:31:144 (2) - stack on 01:30:694 (4) - head, it's really hard for me to read on HIDDEN mod LOL) leaving the stack :3
01:32:344 (8) - nazi, make straight flow from 01:32:044 (7) - , I feel sound better here.
SPOILER
01:46:664 (3) - I'm not sure what this slider follows, you just try to follow the sound of song exactly for making consistency the hitsounds~:
SPOILER

oh, also for example of place:
01:50:264 (5) - change to 4 circles, just I love it to play!
02:07:964 (1) - I don't know you forget to add some hitsound (sampleset:Normal) on the head, and 02:09:164 (1) - , 02:09:614 (4) - . it's okay if these are intentional, though I would recommend to add to them as well!
02:21:464 (5) - Try to stack on 02:21:314 (4) - , since these 2 circles have same sound, a triangle is also okay but it would sound better for here.
02:25:964 (6,7,8) - This flow reminds me Frostmourne's map Q____Q lol
02:35:564 (1) - add a clap here, maybe can hear something like clap sound, and02:36:464 (5,6,7,8) - You could add clap here, if you don't wanna add clap to all of them, just add on white tick and blue tick or...
Normal
00:28:967 (4) - add a clap?
00:31:067 (4) - maybe you can add a circle with clap for flow. No, there's no sound on that part of the song
00:35:567 (6) - add a whistle on the head to follow somehow bell sound.
00:40:367 (1) - add a finish on the head~
00:46:667 (1) - probably this and 00:48:767 (1) - this too ^
00:54:453 (4) - remove whistle on tail, it does not fit here for my ears
00:56:853 (3) - add a whistle?
01:15:694 (1) - the whistle is also fitting here, but finish would more fit on kind of big sound.
01:32:494 (1) - Sampleset:Normal, it would better fit here and you did it in Another diff.
01:50:564 (4) - maybe distance, if it is not intentional.
01:57:164 (3) - You can add whistle on the end, 01:58:964 (2) - and this too. I'm not sure you like this though.
02:07:964 (1) - Sampleset:Normal on the head, as you added on 02:05:564 (1) - , 02:03:164 (1) -
02:16:364 (1) - if you added some whistle on 01:57:164 (3) -, you can also add on the head and 02:18:164 (2,4) - on these head.
02:22:064 (2) - I suppose you forgot to add Sampleset:Normal here.
02:25:964 (1) - Sampleset:Normal on the head also fit here I guess, try it out
02:30:914 (1) - Add Sampleset:Normal here~
02:31:214 (2) - ^ on the tail
maybe you can apply some hitsounds for your other diffs that I pointed out about missing hitsound in this diff.

Beginner
omg there are still 3.5 stars Old star rating sucks =w=

00:30:317 (2) - I guess add Sampleset:Normal instead of the whistle.
00:34:967 (3) - add a whistle on the end~
01:25:294 (1) - change this curve towards 01:25:894 (2) - head, it plays much better imo. It's not really good to see and doesn't change much in terms of gameplay
SPOILER
01:31:294 (3) - this too, maybe it can only do CTRL + J
01:43:964 (2) - Sampleset:Normal on the head.
01:46:364 (2) - This stack is a little hard to play for easiest diff, I think. try change out to another way, like this: Seems playable to me
SPOILER
good luck! ~~I wrote sampleset:normal 13 times~~

Thanks a lot, it was really useful!

ExPew

Elite Mapper

1,220 posts

Joined January 2011

ExPew 2014-06-09T04:52:12+00:00

@Leader

you updated NM diff but MX still old

i dont know you forgot or missed somthing to update...

just reminding

cuz i've looking for next modder

DeletedUser_1574070

DeletedUser_1574070 2014-06-21T08:08:24+00:00

hola

Jenny

2,200 posts

Joined November 2010

Jenny 2014-06-25T14:59:16+00:00

[gowww]

01:03:994 (2,1) - this overlap is visible while previous 1 is still being displayed, so that looks rather bleh
01:12:094 (1) - I don't feel like the slow-melodic swaying the song is having here features a 450+ SPM spinning contest.. also, the spinning sounds rather weird and out of place here, so if you want to keep it, silence it at least?
01:26:044 (2,3) - would rather have these sliders on white ticks since they're more dominant at this part of the song while the red ones are very much in the background
01:31:594 (2,3) - here, the focus on the song actually lies on the red ticks and it feels unnatural to start playing 2 on a white one
01:39:994 (1) - silencing the slider feels more appropriate here (plus, why is this kiai..? doesn't feel very shiny to me)
02:36:839 (1,1,1,1) - I'd practically silence all of these spinners entirely except for the end of the last one because the ringing spinnerbonus sound just kinda hurts to hear when the song is just swaying about as it is now (arguably, spinning 450+ SPM is unfitting here, too)

Secretpipe

3,316 posts

Joined December 2012

Secretpipe 2014-06-29T17:57:17+00:00

have an useless KD <3

Nwolf

2,607 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2014-07-13T09:33:16+00:00

woof woof woofmeow woof woof

[Dain's Muzukashii]

01:03:994 - Change volume of this and 01:06:694 - and 01:10:294 - to 60%
01:50:864 (43) - (If you are going with the snare) change to kat
02:02:864 (95) - ^ also fits the strings better imo
02:04:514 (103,104) - Think it's nicer if you move both notes back by 1/4 and change them to dons

[Firce777's Oni]

00:37:967 (128,129,130,131) - Change to 1/4 notes to have better spread. Also kinda unnecessary in Oni :>
00:40:067 (147,148,149,150) - ^
00:44:267 (185,186,187,188) - ^
00:50:567 (237,238,239,240) - ^
02:00:764 - 02:19:964 - Reduce the amount of notes because spread issues once again

[Firce777's Inner Oni]

00:37:967 (153) - Same note as 152 so change to kat
01:05:344 (333) - d fits piano more
01:51:164 - 02:00:464 - And once again bad spread, this time compared to the oni which is mapped... normally here. The stream is incredibly unnecessary imo so 2 reasons to get rid of notes here.
02:09:914 (329,330,331,332) - ewwwwwwwww
02:44:489 - no

k that's it except the super-mega-stronk-adjective-overmap stream and the 1/6 in the other one I like the map :>

Dainesl

898 posts

Joined May 2012

Dainesl 2014-07-13T10:51:39+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
woof woof woofmeow woof woof

[Dain's Muzukashii]

01:03:994 - Change volume of this and 01:06:694 - and 01:10:294 - to 60% changed to 60%, 65% and 50% respectively.
01:50:864 (43) - (If you are going with the snare) change to kat I was going for the strings here which are kinda low-tone so keeping as don for now
02:02:864 (95) - ^ also fits the strings better imo but the climax of the string pattern happens at the next note so again keeping as don for now
02:04:514 (103,104) - Think it's nicer if you move both notes back by 1/4 and change them to don but I wanted to simplify the piano rhythm here; I decided to make it 3 1/2 notes instead for simplification ;w; the pattern is k k d btw

thanks for the mod :3 also rip 555 combo lol

code!

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256,192,132164,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,132239,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,132314,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,132464,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,132764,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,133064,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,133364,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,133514,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,133664,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,133964,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,134264,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,134564,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,134714,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,134864,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,135164,1,12,0:0:0:0:
256,192,135464,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,135764,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,135914,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,136064,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,136364,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,136664,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,136964,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,137114,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,137264,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,137564,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,137864,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,138014,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,138089,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,138164,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,138314,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,138464,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,138764,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,139064,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,139364,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,139514,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,139664,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,139964,1,12,0:0:0:0:
256,192,140264,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,140414,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,140714,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,141014,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,141464,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,141614,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,141764,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,141914,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,142064,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,142364,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,142514,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,142814,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,143114,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,143564,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,143714,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,143864,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,144014,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,144164,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,144464,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,144614,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,144914,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,145064,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,145214,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,145514,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,145664,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,145814,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,145964,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,146264,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,146564,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,146714,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,147014,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,147314,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,147464,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,147614,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,147764,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,147914,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,148214,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,148364,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,148664,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,148814,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,149114,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,149414,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,149864,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,150014,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,150164,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,150314,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,150464,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,150764,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,150914,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,151214,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,151514,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,151814,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,151964,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,152264,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,152414,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,152564,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,152864,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,153014,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,153314,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,153614,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,153914,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,154064,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,154364,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,154514,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,154664,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,154814,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,154889,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,154964,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,155264,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,155414,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,155564,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,155714,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,155864,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,156164,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,156314,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,156389,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,156464,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,156614,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,156764,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,156914,12,0,164489,0:0:0:0:

Ichigaki

1,767 posts

Joined February 2013

Ichigaki 2014-07-15T16:41:11+00:00

Thanks for give me a chance to mod your map

Called from ♪ ichia7x's standart!mania Modding Queue ♪

Coloumn edit
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7

[General]
first time modding BAT GD in BAT map `-`, hope my mod not bad

Clear `3`

[Pew's NM]

HP and OD too high? i hope you want to decrease it to HP7 OD8
00:04:217 (4217|0) - start this from 00:03:917 -
02:28:214 - add note on 4th
02:32:414 - add note on 5th

-Edit-

00:32:267 - add note on 1st

[Pew's MX]
D:, untung bukan SHD `-`

00:28:967 - add another note?
Just optional
1. from 02:14:414 - 02:14:564 - do like 02:09:914 (129914|2,129914|5,129951|4,129989|0,129989|3,130064|6,130064|1) -
2. from 02:19:514 - 02:19:664 - ^
02:24:764 and 02:25:064 - add another one note?

-Edit-

00:58:503 (58503|0) - move to 2nd
01:19:294 - add note on 1st or 2nd
01:26:494 - add note on 1st
01:28:294 - add note on 3rd
01:28:894 - add note on 2nd
02:12:989 (132989|2) - move to 2nd

Ahh, sorry ExPew, i just give 'simple' mod that i can `-`), don't bite me

ExPew

Elite Mapper

1,220 posts

Joined January 2011

ExPew 2014-07-17T05:37:34+00:00

ichia7x wrote:
Thanks for give me a chance to mod your map
Called from ♪ ichia7x's standart!mania Modding Queue ♪

Coloumn edit
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7

[General]
first time modding BAT GD in BAT map `-`, hope my mod not bad

Clear `3`
[Pew's NM]
HP and OD too high? i hope you want to decrease it to HP7 OD8 - Changed HP and OD 8
00:04:217 (4217|0) - start this from 00:03:917 - follow on strings instrument
02:28:214 - add note on 4th - added the synth part
02:32:414 - add note on 5th - added snare04
-Edit-
00:32:267 - add note on 1st - im not focus on ride hitsounds on HD, no thanks
[Pew's MX]
D:, untung bukan SHD `-`
00:28:967 - add another note? - added horn(but no hitsounds)

Just optional
from 02:14:414 - 02:14:564 - do like 02:09:914 (129914|2,129914|5,129951|4,129989|0,129989|3,130064|6,130064|1) -
from 02:19:514 - 02:19:664 - ^
02:24:764 and 02:25:064 - add another one note? - try to hear those music with hitsound, i don't think there got 1/8(xylophone) in BGM, not accepting all optional suggestion.
-Edit-
00:58:503 (58503|0) - move to 2nd - ok
01:19:294 - add note on 1st or 2nd - limited note on BGM
01:26:494 - add note on 1st - ^
01:28:294 - add note on 3rd - ok missing on piano note
01:28:894 - add note on 2nd - ^
02:12:989 (132989|2) - move to 2nd - nope
Ahh, sorry ExPew, i just give 'simple' mod that i can `-`), don't bite me it's okay, i think this got helped me a lot, you found it the missing piano/horn note

fixed :

~~and NM changed to HD diff http://puu.sh/aeXtQ/3299592a38.osu - HD~~

http://puu.sh/ag683/4e499ed2d2.rar - HD ( i keep puush still cant open, so i compress it to .rar )

http://puu.sh/aeXiH/abf85e73d7.osu - MX

Charlotte

1,905 posts

Joined December 2013

Charlotte 2014-07-17T13:25:27+00:00

Hi from Charlotte's　Taiko Modding Queue

d
k
D(big d)
K(big k)

Dain's Muzukashii

00:44:567 (111) - change k
00:58:503 (173) - change K
01:31:744 (126,127) - change K
02:02:864 (95,96) - ctrl + G
02:27:614 (205) - change d
02:27:914 (207,208) - change K

Firce777's Oni

01:06:023 - add d
01:09:694 (333,334) - ctrl + G

Firce777's Inner Oni

I'm sorry, it is difficult for me

Nice song & Nice map Good luck

Last edited by Charlotte 2014-07-23T09:52:45+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Rush_FTK

239 posts

Joined July 2013

Rush_FTK 2014-07-19T13:19:16+00:00

Hello~!

Mod

[General]
I'm sorry for my poor English at first...
It's already a perfect map so I could only have limit help to you..sad.

My Opinion:
- The songs bpm is 99.93.(From MixMeister,a softwave which can measure BPM automaticly.)Though 200 is also ok , but a double bpm will make the slider Velocity more quickly,thus cause unsuit for music rhythm.

img link(if you can't see the image):
http://v1.freep.cn/3tb_1407192113274vxv512293.jpg

[Beginner]
Warning(You must fix it):
- From Ranking Criteria,Easy diff's star rating must lower than 1.5.You can click the link for detail information.

Suggestion:
- Slider Velocity is a little high.I don't know if it's suitful for beginner diff.Try to slow down.

My Opinion:
- 01:50:864 add a note.

[Normal]
Warning(You must fix it):
- Uninherited timing sections must be the same in every difficulty,this diff is different from other diff you made.

Suggestion:
- Same as Beginner diff,Slider Velocity is a little high.lower it,please.
- 00:31:067 add a note since there has a stress.

My Opinion:
- 01:43:964 (1,2,3) uncomfortable to play.I perfer this:

img link(if you can't see the image):
http://v1.freep.cn/3tb_1407192113299uih512293.jpg
- 01:58:364 (1,2,3,4) I perfer this.(move others a little in order to obey distance snap.)

img link(if you can't see the image):
http://v2.freep.cn/3tb_1407192113311ywp512293.jpg

332,60,118364,21,4,0:0:0:0:
376,160,118964,1,0,0:0:0:0:
488,136,119564,1,0,1:0:0:0:
444,32,120164,1,2,0:0:0:0:
432,224,120764,6,0,P|372:224|324:264,1,120,4|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,324,121364,2,0,L|128:324,1,120,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
56,376,121964,1,0,1:0:0:0:
12,292,122264,1,8,0:0:0:0:

[Another]
Warning(You must fix it):
-Green line is not snapped. 01:06:794→01:06:769

My Opinion:
- 00:34:967 (1,2,3) ,00:25:967 (1,2,3) make sure them same,I perfer keep former.
- DR+1? since it's another diff.
- 00:45:017 (2,3) Swap their location.

[gowww's Extra]
My Opinion:
- 00:23:867 (3) move to x=256 y=208?e

[Pew's HD]
|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|
Suggestion:
- OD+1 since less holds.
- can make more harder since it;s hard diff.

My Opinion:
- 00:18:167 add note in 5 ←Stress.
- 00:18:317 (18317|3) move to 3,then add a circle in 7. ←Stress.
- 00:18:617 (18617|6,18617|4) replace it to a circle in 6. ←Not strongs as former.
- 00:19:217 (19217|2,19517|2) replace to a hold?
- 01:50:264 add a note in 7.
- 02:10:364 ~ 02:13:139 not suit for music,each note's interval in 1/2 snap.

[Pew's MX]
Suggestion:
- 01:02:653 (62653|3) move to 01:02:628.←Really start at there,I have use 25% Playback Rate check it.
- 01:03:253 (63253|3) move to 01:03:228.←^
My Opinion:
- 00:18:617 (18617|2,18617|5) replace to hold,end up at 00:18:767
- 00:20:717 (20717|1,20717|4) ^
- 01:01:803 (61803|3) replace to a hold,end up at 01:01:878
- 01:02:103 (62103|3)/01:02:403 (62403|3)/01:02:653 (62653|3)/01:03:003 (63003|3)1/4 Snap hold ^
- 01:03:253 (63253|3) replace to a hold,end up at 01:03:455.
- 01:03:678 (63678|3) replace to a hold,end up at 01:03:994.

[Dain's Muzukashii]
(Never played Taiko,so only in my feeling,I hope it can help you)
d=Don k=Kat D=Big Don K=Big Kat

Suggestion:
- 01:03:994 ~ 01:10:294 Hit Vol.=30%

My Opinion:
- 00:24:467 add d.
- 00:40:217 remove.
- 01:43:364 (8,9,10,11,12) ddkkd.
- 02:44:489 Hit Vol.=20% or 02:36:914 (1) end up at 02:44:264,then add a k in 02:44:489.

A brilliant songs and a awesome beatmap. Thanks you to bring this beautiful "artwork" to us

Good Luck to you~!

Leader

osu! Alumni

1,849 posts

Joined January 2011

Topic Starter

Leader 2014-07-19T13:48:56+00:00

Rush_FTK

Rush_FTK wrote:
Hello~!

[General]
I'm sorry for my poor English at first...
It's already a perfect map so I could only have limit help to you..sad.

My Opinion:
- The songs bpm is 99.93.(From MixMeister,a softwave which can measure BPM automaticly.)Though 200 is also ok , but a double bpm will make the slider Velocity more quickly,thus cause unsuit for music rhythm.

img link(if you can't see the image):
http://v1.freep.cn/3tb_1407192113274vxv512293.jpg It's clearly 200, programs may also be wrong, me and captin1 did this timing by only using our ears and this is the best instrument you can use for detect BPM.

[Beginner]
Warning(You must fix it):
- From Ranking Criteria,Easy diff's star rating must lower than 1.5.You can click the link for detail information. I don't know why this is still rated as a N, but it's fine since the lowest diff must be below 2.00, and this one is

Suggestion:
- Slider Velocity is a little high.I don't know if it's suitful for beginner diff.Try to slow down. I believe it's fine

My Opinion:
- 01:50:864 add a note. Not going to add further notes, this will make the map too hard

[Normal]
Warning(You must fix it):
- Uninherited timing sections must be the same in every difficulty,this diff is different from other diff you made.

Suggestion:
- Same as Beginner diff,Slider Velocity is a little high.lower it,please. Same as Beginner, this is fine too
- 00:31:067 add a note since there has a stress.

My Opinion:
- 01:43:964 (1,2,3) uncomfortable to play.I perfer this: This messed up my spacing, I'll keep my simple rhythm

img link(if you can't see the image):
http://v1.freep.cn/3tb_1407192113299uih512293.jpg
- 01:58:364 (1,2,3,4) I perfer this.(move others a little in order to obey distance snap.)

img link(if you can't see the image):
http://v2.freep.cn/3tb_1407192113311ywp512293.jpg
332,60,118364,21,4,0:0:0:0:
376,160,118964,1,0,0:0:0:0:
488,136,119564,1,0,1:0:0:0:
444,32,120164,1,2,0:0:0:0:
432,224,120764,6,0,P|372:224|324:264,1,120,4|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,324,121364,2,0,L|128:324,1,120,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
56,376,121964,1,0,1:0:0:0:
12,292,122264,1,8,0:0:0:0:
I think this pattern is find and I made it a bit tricky in order to make new players learn new things.

[Another]
Warning(You must fix it):
-Green line is not snapped. 01:06:794→01:06:769 It doesn't matter since it's just a greenline

My Opinion:
- 00:34:967 (1,2,3) ,00:25:967 (1,2,3) make sure them same,I perfer keep former.
- DR+1? since it's another diff. 7 is already high
- 00:45:017 (2,3) Swap their location. What I did follow better the rhythm, in my opinion

A brilliant songs and a awesome beatmap. Thanks you to bring this beautiful "artwork" to us
Good Luck to you~!

Fixed something, thanks!

Myxo

osu! Alumni

3,103 posts

Joined December 2012

Myxo 2014-07-19T17:40:27+00:00

Mod for Mod~

General

Cheesiest's Hyper & Normal are missing the very first uninherited timing point!
For some reason, the Extra has Widescreen Support enabled, although it isn't listed in AiMod. It might be a bug, just saying.
It might be a good idea to add a description to the thread / listing so that people now who made which diff, if they can't tell from "Pew's HD" or something. But I suppose you won't leave it blank for rank anyways lol

Beginner

00:30:317 (2,1) - It sounds a bit weird having a 2/1-gap here for some reason, and you also filled this one up 00:28:967, so you could add a circle at 00:31:067 for a more intuitive rhythm. It's difficult to explain, since the overall rhythm is quite complicated in this song, but it just feels like there needs to be a circle there.
00:53:253 (4) - You should probably add NC here, since the combo currently covers a whole lot of time.
01:58:964 (4) - You might add one here as well. This combo consists of many circles and is relatively long, so it will likely cause newbies to fail when they miss some notes ;_; Also it would look cool with those linear patterns :b
02:07:964 (1) - This touches the default HP-bar, consider to rearrange this a bit so it is placed more downwards!
02:33:914 (4,5) - It sounds kind of strange to keep mapping on red ticks here, although the white ticks at 02:34:364 and 02:34:664 seem to be a bit more emphasized to me. This might be a better rhythm here: http://puu.sh/aihO6/ac92c43d88.jpg
Nice diff! Good job on handling the complex rhythms. One thing though: I'd recommend you to go through the diff and even out the spacing a bit. Patterns like these 02:26:264 (1,2,3) clearly look much more tidy when the spacing in between the sliders is consistent. Uneven spacing like this is noticeable ingame and gives the map an untidy look. Same applies for the Normal

Normal

It seems weird that you used very much 1/2 throughout the diff, but you didn't in the kiai-sections. Those are loudest ones (and have most density from the music), so I'd really expect a higher circle-density there, but they are the easiest sections of the map. Here are some suggestions, helping to get away with this problem:
1. 02:01:214 - You could add a circle here, to follow the main instrument. Same applies to 02:06:014 + 02:10:814 + 02:10:814 + 02:13:214
2. 02:09:614 - You could also add one here - it just sounds good to map this emphasized bass beat as a transition to the second half of the kiai.
3. At the end of the kiai, there are two more beats that would sound nice when mapped: 02:18:014 + 02:19:214
00:52:053 (1,2) - I think these should swap NCs, it's pretty self-explanatory why they should. Probably you chose the current placement because of the pattern (flipped slider = one combo), but it would make more sense to flip the NCs from the music. Currently, the second combo covers up a bit too big time from the music imo.
00:58:053 (5) - This is also a spot where I'd have expected a NC, since the combo covered a relatively big time already.
01:58:364 (1,2,3,4) - Don't use Antijumps like this in a Normal. I know this one is rather difficult, but still. Either stack them completely or do something like this: http://puu.sh/aibzJ/cfdf4d86db.jpg
02:34:064 (5) - The Normal Players likely aren't able to read multi reverse sliders like this one, since the second reverse appears too late and the slider is just too short in general. Just split it into two sliders? http://puu.sh/aibIH/97fc6caede.jpg
Good job! I can imagine how difficult it was to map this, since the rhythm of the song is quite complicated! You made it sound fine and understandable

cheesiest's Hyper

Hmm, I think it's a bit questionable how well this difficulty fits into the spread of this set. First of all, the slidervelocity is the same as Another and the low AR makes it feel even higher. Secondly, you aren't using any 1/4-notes, while the Another even uses some longstreams. It's not a big problem, since these two factors kinda compensate each other, just saying.
00:37:067 (3) - Seems strange that you used a 3/2-slider here. The player really expects these repetetive 1/1-slider rhythm 00:36:167 (1,2) to go on for a while, it sounds much better with the music. You also did it better in the rest of this section, for example 00:38:267 (1,2,3,4), so changing it here would make it much more consistent as well. This would be a better rhythm: http://puu.sh/aiaip/70f32b99c5.jpg
00:56:853 (4,5,6) - I suppose you did this for variation purposes? Because you've been mapping constant 1/2-beats in this section, so these sudden breaks seem really weird and unfitting. If you want some varation, I'd rather try some 1/2-stacks with circles or something like that, but leaving out these beats is not the right solution imo.
00:59:103 (1) - Great! :3 Respect for that one
01:39:994 (1) - A relatively fast spinner doesn't seem very fitting for such noises if you ask me. They shouldn't be mapped in my opinion, you could just delete the spinner. If you don't want to have 0 spinners in your map then, there's the possibility of mapping the end of the song like gowww did.
01:46:814 (2) - It seems that you forgot to add Normal Sampleset at this slider's head. It sounded empty when playing.
02:27:164 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - This sounds a bit empty hitsound-wise. Leader added some whistles in his Another diff, maybe you can do that too?
Awesome! I love your placement of objects :3

Another

00:25:967 (1,2,3) - Hmm. This seems a little bit random to me. You have three reverse-sliders after each other, but they have all different length and they have different gaps between each other rhythm-wise, although they look like they have the same spacing. It would play much better and make more sense if you change the rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/ai6yO/ad93091c9b.jpg The triplet would be a nice transition from the first reverse slider to the other two ones, which would be 1/4 apart and have the same length.
00:33:917 - It seems a bit strange that you ignored this strong bass sound, although you didn't follow this instrument. Maybe you can think of a different rhythm here, for example: http://puu.sh/ai6Ji/121be25e54.jpg
00:34:967 (1,2,3) - The music is the same like at 00:25:967. First of all, you shouldn't map on this beat 00:35:342, since there isn't really something in the music there. It would also be consistent with your rhythm at 00:25:967. Secondly, my rhythm suggestion is the same as before
01:39:994 (1) - Same as what I wrote for cheesiest's diff.
02:01:964 (5,6,7) - This didn't flow so well in my opinion. The spacing is relatively huge but the transition isn't the best. This works better for me, as an example: http://puu.sh/ai93R/0e28503ad2.jpg
02:08:414 (3) - I think you forgot to change the Sampleset to Normal at this slider's head. It sounded empty when playing.
Good diff. I don't like how your spacing looks rather inconsistent, which makes the map look not very tidy, but that's a matter of style and personal opinion after all.

gowww's Extra

00:22:367 (1,2,3) - Hmm, I see what you are following here, but it still seems strange to ignore the very emphasized bass at 00:22:517 and 00:22:817. A rhythm like this would be nice: http://puu.sh/ai5jK/f3b2596ac6.jpg Same applies for 00:31:367 (1,2,3)
00:36:167 (1,2,3,4,5) - I don't think the straight slider really fits into this pattern. It breaks the flow a bit in my opinion. You could make a curved slider in between 00:36:167 (1) and 00:37:067 (5) for a cool looking pattern here, something like this: http://puu.sh/ai5wf/4ae45dda61.jpg
00:37:967 - I'm pretty sure an 1/6-rhythm starts here. This rhythm would fit better then: http://puu.sh/ai6Y8/9289c578bd.jpg Same applies for 00:40:067 + 00:44:267 + 00:50:567
00:58:503 (4,5,6,7,1) - Minor, but stacking the circle onto edges of this awesome slider is just sooo cool, that you could make it a big more accurate to look even more awesome ;_;
01:05:194 (6) - I highly recommend you to follow this triplet, it just makes no sense to ignore it. You also mapped the one at 01:07:594. http://puu.sh/ai4Le/e428b20d52.jpg
01:11:044 - It seems kind of weird that you ignored this note. It's played by the piano and is clear to hear. A good placement would be this, because it belongs to 01:11:194 (3): http://puu.sh/ai4T6/828b09c050.jpg
01:26:344 (3,1) - Hmm, that jumps seems a bit too big, although it's a sliderjump. It feels rather uncomfortable to play, and (1) is not emphasized enough to justify this. A solution would to use ctrl+g on 01:26:794 (1), maybe even to make it a bit curved for a smoother flow; That can add much to how comfortable it feels: http://puu.sh/ai5OD/098c99db4a.jpg
01:28:894 (3,4) - Same about this jump. A possible solution would be this placement: http://puu.sh/ai5TG/95fe8c65a8.jpg
01:31:444 (1) - Remove this NC? It seems pretty unnecessary since the note before is already NCd.
01:38:794 (1,1) - This is just wrong rhythm in my opinion. You can't map to noises like this. Also, the hitsounds (sliderslide, hitnormals of the reverse slider) are so loud compared to the noise that you can't even hear it anymore when playing the map and it just sounds completely weird. I highly recommend you to just remove these objects.
02:36:764 (11) - Minor - I think it would look better with NC, because of the stack at the end of the straight stream. Also, it would be consistent with Another diff.
Awesome! Glad that you are back, gowww ^-^

Nice mapset! Good luck! I hope you like my mod :3

EDIT: Here you have a star o:

cheesiest

721 posts

Joined September 2009

cheesiest 2014-07-20T00:23:48+00:00

Desperate-kun wrote:

cheesiest's Hyper
Hmm, I think it's a bit questionable how well this difficulty fits into the spread of this set. First of all, the slidervelocity is the same as Another and the low AR makes it feel even higher. Secondly, you aren't using any 1/4-notes, while the Another even uses some longstreams. It's not a big problem, since these two factors kinda compensate each other, just saying.
00:37:067 (3) - Seems strange that you used a 3/2-slider here. The player really expects these repetetive 1/1-slider rhythm 00:36:167 (1,2) to go on for a while, it sounds much better with the music. You also did it better in the rest of this section, for example 00:38:267 (1,2,3,4), so changing it here would make it much more consistent as well. This would be a better rhythm: http://puu.sh/aiaip/70f32b99c5.jpg fixed
00:56:853 (4,5,6) - I suppose you did this for variation purposes? Because you've been mapping constant 1/2-beats in this section, so these sudden breaks seem really weird and unfitting. If you want some varation, I'd rather try some 1/2-stacks with circles or something like that, but leaving out these beats is not the right solution imo. fixed
00:59:103 (1) - Great! :3 Respect for that one thank
01:39:994 (1) - A relatively fast spinner doesn't seem very fitting for such noises if you ask me. They shouldn't be mapped in my opinion, you could just delete the spinner. If you don't want to have 0 spinners in your map then, there's the possibility of mapping the end of the song like gowww did. hmm, i wanna keep it since it's like a frantic sound and trying to spin 477 seems nice so
01:46:814 (2) - It seems that you forgot to add Normal Sampleset at this slider's head. It sounded empty when playing. whoops
02:27:164 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - This sounds a bit empty hitsound-wise. Leader added some whistles in his Another diff, maybe you can do that too? and some finishes B)
Awesome! I love your placement of objects :3 thank

Delis wrote:
cheesiest's Hyper
00:55:653 (1) - nazi, move 1 glid right to avoid overlapping. x+2
00:56:853 (4,5,6) - these made me confusing when test play this, I don't know why you suddenly made 1/1 rhythm, just change to sliders or something to make smooth flow and avoid to make confusing x.x ok idk w/e
SPOILER
00:59:103 (1) - 3rd red point is unnecessary because there's no noise sound LOL ye
01:22:894 (1) - remove NC and add 01:23:794 (3) - here instead, I think keeping NC in same rhythm to keep follow point is necessary, especially for slow part like here. you just wanna keep the consistency of NC, just ignore this. n
01:42:764 (4) - maybe change to 1/1 slider and add a circle on 01:43:214, the flow was really uncomfortable to play for me. hmm nah ):
SPOILER
02:06:314 - I thought you forgot to add a circle, if it is intentional, I would recommend to add circle or move 02:06:014 (3) - slider end on 02:06:314 whoops added circle or w/e

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256,304,152564,6,0,P|208:312|160:292,1,80,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
108,268,152864,1,8,0:0:0:0:
175,224,153014,2,0,P|199:160|155:52,1,160,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
108,31,153464,1,0,1:0:0:0:
41,75,153614,2,0,P|17:139|61:247,1,160,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
32,304,154064,2,0,L|20:404,1,80,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
184,383,154364,2,0,L|180:304,1,80,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
174,224,154664,6,0,L|164:64,1,160,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,100,155114,2,0,P|356:108|456:36,1,160,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
492,172,155564,1,0,0:0:0:0:
450,255,155714,1,0,0:0:0:0:
502,331,155864,2,0,P|431:326|357:374,1,160,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
260,304,156314,2,0,P|194:348|116:344,1,160,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
36,256,156764,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,164489,5,2,0:0:0:0:

Leader

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Leader 2014-07-20T17:12:55+00:00

Desperate-kun

Desperate-kun wrote:

Mod for Mod~

Beginner
02:33:914 (4,5) - It sounds kind of strange to keep mapping on red ticks here, although the white ticks at 02:34:364 and 02:34:664 seem to be a bit more emphasized to me. This might be a better rhythm here: http://puu.sh/aihO6/ac92c43d88.jpg I actually feel a rhythm change here, so why not. It's just for two sliders btw, nothing too complex
Nice diff! Good job on handling the complex rhythms. One thing though: I'd recommend you to go through the diff and even out the spacing a bit. Patterns like these 02:26:264 (1,2,3) clearly look much more tidy when the spacing in between the sliders is consistent. Uneven spacing like this is noticeable ingame and gives the map an untidy look. Same applies for the Normal Nothing really relevant imo, but I'll make sure to check it

Normal
It seems weird that you used very much 1/2 throughout the diff, but you didn't in the kiai-sections. Those are loudest ones (and have most density from the music), so I'd really expect a higher circle-density there, but they are the easiest sections of the map. Here are some suggestions, helping to get away with this problem: It's a common thing to have the kiai on a part that isn't the hardest one, but it's recognizable for its melody, so it shouldn't be a problem
02:01:214 - You could add a circle here, to follow the main instrument. Same applies to 02:06:014 + 02:10:814 + 02:10:814 + 02:13:214
02:09:614 - You could also add one here - it just sounds good to map this emphasized bass beat as a transition to the second half of the kiai.
At the end of the kiai, there are two more beats that would sound nice when mapped: 02:18:014 + 02:19:214
01:58:364 (1,2,3,4) - Don't use Antijumps like this in a Normal. I know this one is rather difficult, but still. Either stack them completely or do something like this: http://puu.sh/aibzJ/cfdf4d86db.jpg I'll keep them until a BAT appears

Another
00:25:967 (1,2,3) - Hmm. This seems a little bit random to me. You have three reverse-sliders after each other, but they have all different length and they have different gaps between each other rhythm-wise, although they look like they have the same spacing. It would play much better and make more sense if you change the rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/ai6yO/ad93091c9b.jpg The triplet would be a nice transition from the first reverse slider to the other two ones, which would be 1/4 apart and have the same length. I'm following the sound that plays on the white tick, and also having different numbers of reverse is cool to play lol
00:33:917 - It seems a bit strange that you ignored this strong bass sound, although you didn't follow this instrument. Maybe you can think of a different rhythm here, for example: http://puu.sh/ai6Ji/121be25e54.jpg It's not that relevant in this part to me ;_;
00:34:967 (1,2,3) - The music is the same like at 00:25:967. First of all, you shouldn't map on this beat 00:35:342, since there isn't really something in the music there. It would also be consistent with your rhythm at 00:25:967. Secondly, my rhythm suggestion is the same as before
01:39:994 (1) - Same as what I wrote for cheesiest's diff. What cheesiest said
02:01:964 (5,6,7) - This didn't flow so well in my opinion. The spacing is relatively huge but the transition isn't the best. This works better for me, as an example: http://puu.sh/ai93R/0e28503ad2.jpg I actually find this one really awesome to play

Nice mapset! Good luck! I hope you like my mod :3

EDIT: Here you have a star o:

Thanks!

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2014-07-20T18:42:09+00:00

Promised mod!~

[General]

Check aimod / aibat please. It complains about the osu!mania diffs (since there seems to be a BPM change). I assume it has to be consistent?
In the begin of the song could be more hitsounds, such as whistles. Consider adding some.
Consider adding some spinners like in gowws diff at the end (in hyper and another), otherwise it's pretty odd to leave such a blank space there

[Beginner]

00:32:267 (2,3,4) - Kind of an awkward flow for an easy. Well.. you can't really do much about it, since there's not much place left. How about moving 4 to a straight line with 2 and 3 tho? 00:33:167 (4) - move to 68 40
00:36:167 (1) - REALLY weird rhythm you've got here. I'd like you to change this rhythm to http://puu.sh/ajEL1.png this, because it's 1) way easier to guess for beginner 2) it compliments the downbeats better.
00:38:267 (1) - Same.
00:40:367 (1) - whistle at the end?
00:42:467 (1) - ^
01:19:294 (2) - If you'd move this slightly up it would follow the curve 01:18:094 (1) - of this one better. Maybe 52 224?
02:16:964 (1,2) - Swap NC to emphasize the downbeat better?

Nice easy, I have to say. But please get rid off the rhythm I've mentioned above.

[Normal]

00:24:167 (5) - remove clap
00:35:567 (6) - add whistle to the start? it seems to be the same sound 00:34:967 (5) - as here.
00:34:967 (5) - maybe add a NC here? The sound appears outstanding to me.
00:36:167 (1,2) - That's quite an odd and empty rhythm here. Are you sure you don't want to map any further stuff here?
00:40:367 (1,2,3) - The way you've placed those sliders looks quite weird.. it doesn't compliment each other at all, i tried to get something but http://puu.sh/ajFd8.png ... that seems a bit too crumpy. You might want to have a closer look at this pattern, please. (might need a bit of replacing yes.. )
01:16:294 (2) - remove clap, seems too noisy, also it's on a red tick where it usually doesn't belong to?
01:48:764 (1) - I'd like to suggest http://puu.sh/ajFk4.png this rhythm here, it follows the sound 01:49:814 - here good, and also the rhythm doesn't get so empty (with red ticks, it's quite hard to guess the rhythm anyway imo..)
02:00:764 (1) - definitely expected that you map 1/2 rhythm here.

I honestly don't understand the rhythm many times, well, it's not that it's a bad rhythm, but why didn't you use 1/2 in the kiai instead of every other spot? Imo, it would have been way better the other way round, but well, probably it's my opinion only. Sometimes you could improve some transitions. Also recheck hitsounds please!

[cheesiest's Hard]

00:22:067 - How about adding a circle here to match the strong beat in the background? Without it, it seems like something is missing.
00:49:217 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This pattern looks a bit unclean if I compare it to how you've mapped the rest.
00:59:103 (1) - wow o.o cool
01:32:494 (1) - add nc?

Nice slidershapes and the rhythm is cool tho. Except the pattern above I have nothing to complain about, I assume.

[Another]

00:20:717 (7) - remove whistle
00:27:167 (1) - add normal sample
00:29:267 (3) - ^
01:16:444 (3) - random clap too, imo
01:43:214 (2,3) - Could you move 3 a bit further away? Imo it's way too close and the song doesn't support an antijump at all, does it?
01:45:614 (4) - remove clap from tail
01:55:214 (2) - It's a bit weird that you suddenly start letting sliders end on the downbeat, could you please avoid this to give the right emphasis? You didn't do that so far, and if it comes up randomly, it doesn't really fit.
02:01:214 (2,3) - same here, maybe simply ctrl + g with 3?
02:03:164 (1) - I think having a jump from 8 > 1 emphasizes the downbeat better than vice-versa. Move 8 to 184 128 or something?
02:09:464 (3,4) - Try to get an equal square please? I don't quite see why you're using a bigger spacing from 2 > 3.
02:24:164 (4) - Wouldn't ctrl + g provide better flow in that case? It follows 3 better.
02:26:264 (7) - Ctrl + G for same reason, well I can see that you wanted a jump there but providing a better flow could be more enjoyable after all.

good actually except some hitsounds xD

[gowwww's Extra]

00:40:967 (5,7) - Consider ctrl + G those? The flow seems improved for me!
00:59:103 (1) - omg i love that LEADER CAN YOU ALSO BE THAT CREATIVE PLEASE?
01:25:294 (1) - What about having a rhythm like this here, in order to avoid ignoring the downbeats? http://puu.sh/ajGvh.png

Overall a bit untidy, but it seems to play well.

If you put effort in the hitsounding and in tidying up some stuff, feel free to call me back.

Leader

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Topic Starter

Leader 2014-07-20T22:49:50+00:00

Irre

Irreversible wrote:
Promised mod!~

[General]

Check aimod / aibat please. It complains about the osu!mania diffs (since there seems to be a BPM change). I assume it has to be consistent? I'm not sure which is the correct one
Consider adding some spinners like in gowws diff at the end (in hyper and another), otherwise it's pretty odd to leave such a blank space there But that's the cool part!

[Beginner]

00:32:267 (2,3,4) - Kind of an awkward flow for an easy. Well.. you can't really do much about it, since there's not much place left. How about moving 4 to a straight line with 2 and 3 tho? 00:33:167 (4) - move to 68 40 I stacked them

Nice easy, I have to say. But please get rid off the rhythm I've mentioned above.

[Normal]

00:34:967 (5) - maybe add a NC here? The sound appears outstanding to me. Nothing really outstanding
00:36:167 (1,2) - That's quite an odd and empty rhythm here. Are you sure you don't want to map any further stuff here? Eh?
00:40:367 (1,2,3) - The way you've placed those sliders looks quite weird.. it doesn't compliment each other at all, i tried to get something but http://puu.sh/ajFd8.png ... that seems a bit too crumpy. You might want to have a closer look at this pattern, please. (might need a bit of replacing yes.. ) Somehow fixed, but I guess I will remap this part because it seems kinda confusionary
02:00:764 (1) - definitely expected that you map 1/2 rhythm here. What I told to Desperate-kun, also this part makes me think to a plain flow than a complex one for new players.

I honestly don't understand the rhythm many times, well, it's not that it's a bad rhythm, but why didn't you use 1/2 in the kiai instead of every other spot? Imo, it would have been way better the other way round, but well, probably it's my opinion only. Sometimes you could improve some transitions. Also recheck hitsounds please!

[Another]

01:43:214 (2,3) - Could you move 3 a bit further away? Imo it's way too close and the song doesn't support an antijump at all, does it? It plays really well to met.
02:01:214 (2,3) - same here, maybe simply ctrl + g with 3? I actually find this one fine and fit with the music
02:03:164 (1) - I think having a jump from 8 > 1 emphasizes the downbeat better than vice-versa. Move 8 to 184 128 or something?
02:09:464 (3,4) - Try to get an equal square please? I don't quite see why you're using a bigger spacing from 2 > 3. Hey, it's good imo
02:24:164 (4) - Wouldn't ctrl + g provide better flow in that case? It follows 3 better. I want to keep the jump there
02:26:264 (7) - Ctrl + G for same reason, well I can see that you wanted a jump there but providing a better flow could be more enjoyable after all. Guess I'll remake this part for now

good actually except some hitsounds xD

[gowwww's Extra]

00:40:967 (5,7) - Consider ctrl + G those? The flow seems improved for me!
00:59:103 (1) - omg i love that LEADER CAN YOU ALSO BE THAT CREATIVE PLEASE? EXCUSE ME IRRE-CHAN
01:25:294 (1) - What about having a rhythm like this here, in order to avoid ignoring the downbeats? http://puu.sh/ajGvh.png

Overall a bit untidy, but it seems to play well.

If you put effort in the hitsounding and in tidying up some stuff, feel free to call me back.

Thanks! Anyway, added a custom clap provided by Cherry Blossom~

Jenny

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Joined November 2010

Jenny 2014-07-21T00:24:20+00:00

Jenny wrote:
[gowww]

01:03:994 (2,1) - this overlap is visible while previous 1 is still being displayed, so that looks rather bleh
01:12:094 (1) - I don't feel like the slow-melodic swaying the song is having here features a 450+ SPM spinning contest.. also, the spinning sounds rather weird and out of place here, so if you want to keep it, silence it at least?
01:26:044 (2,3) - would rather have these sliders on white ticks since they're more dominant at this part of the song while the red ones are very much in the background
01:31:594 (2,3) - here, the focus on the song actually lies on the red ticks and it feels unnatural to start playing 2 on a white one
01:39:994 (1) - silencing the slider feels more appropriate here (plus, why is this kiai..? doesn't feel very shiny to me)
02:36:839 (1,1,1,1) - I'd practically silence all of these spinners entirely except for the end of the last one because the ringing spinnerbonus sound just kinda hurts to hear when the song is just swaying about as it is now (arguably, spinning 450+ SPM is unfitting here, too)

ktgster

Elite Mapper

483 posts

Joined November 2008

ktgster 2014-07-21T01:35:28+00:00

Requested by Leader...
Laziness kicks in hard so...

[General]

01:41:569 - Start kiai here. Really no reason to do it on the second half when the first half is pretty much the second half.

[gowww's Extra]

To be honest, this whole map is very unpolished. From a glance, it doesn't look like you know what you are doing. Your NCing is very inconsistent and half the time, you seem to place notes without any thought to it. A lot of the flow is broken due to these note placements. I won't mention all of it though.

Drain -1. Note density is high in a stream map so a few misses can just ruin your day.

00:18:167 (1,2,3) - spacing like these really make no sense when the whole beginning just spams jumps at you. This spacing between 2 and 3 is awkward to play and looks ugly. I suggest you make these type of spacing 1.0x and anything similar to this should also be fixed like that
00:19:667 (7,1) - ^
00:22:067 (8) - I suggest you move this note so it doesn't overlap 7. Better flow and less ugliness
00:22:367 (1,2,3,4) - I really don't get why you didn't map the 1/2 here. These notes are pretty dominant and it's pretty ignorant to not map them. The anti-jump is also questionable and looks like it was tacked on
00:23:567 (1,2,3,4,5) - can you like not overlap some of the notes in these patterns
00:24:317 - put notes on this and 00:24:617
00:32:567 (5) - move this under 6 for better playability
00:36:467 (2,4,6) - these circles aren't anti-jumps, but they're ugly since they're not consistent with the spacing. Either stack them or fix the spacing
00:40:367 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - in the previous pattern 00:38:267 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) you NC'd every 3 notes, why not apply it here
00:44:867 (2,4,6,8) - like the first point, use 1x spacing
00:58:053 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - from the looks of it, circles were placed randomly here and it really doesn't play well at all. I suggest you use patterns in three's such as triangles for this. If it was me, this is how I would do it

SPOILER

00:59:103 (1) - I appreciate your try at slider art, but it's not really good and a spinner here would fit much more imo
01:05:194 (5) - this is in 1/4
01:06:694 (3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - this is really annoying to play. The sliders are too fast compared to what you have before and on short notice too, so you can't expect it at all. Then you have this low spacing part which would be interpreted as a stream and not 1/2 making this a cheap way to miss pretty much. Adjust the sliders beforehand and use higher spacing on notes beyond 01:07:744 (6)
01:08:794 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - It's not really necessary to slow down the sliders here. The song is using a consistent pitch
01:12:094 (1) - it would be nice to map this spinner
01:19:294 (1) - stack this onto the slider
01:24:544 (4,5,6) - use two 1/2 sliders here for the notes on 01:24:544 and 01:24:844
01:31:444 (1,2,3,4) - same concept as above
01:39:994 (1) - IMO, this should be 1/8 really. 1/16 sounds too fast for this part especially since you can here 1/4 notes in this part
01:41:939 (2) - overmapped note
01:43:664 (3) - reverse this slider here

SPOILER

01:51:239 (2,3) - remove this note and extend 2 to where 3 was
01:52:289 (6) - you didn't really need to copypaste a section here. You should just map this part
02:05:564 - why didn't you continue the stream here. It's pretty abrupt to stop it here and you do it everywhere else in this kiai
02:15:164 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - these spaced streams are inconsistent with the rest of the streams here. Why the change-up
02:22:064 (1) - stack this, an anti-jump makes no sense here
02:23:114 (1,2) - You use an anti-jump on 1, but instead stacked the 2 on top of 1. It's much better to just stack all on top of the slider end or use an anti-jump from 1 to 2
02:29:414 (1,2) - ^
02:31:514 (1,2) - ^ and adjust 02:30:764 (3) if you choose to do this
02:36:689 (10,11) - why use a stack here and not continue the stream?

[Another]

It's a pretty nice map, but some of your spacing that seem to be used with distance snap happened to be inconsistent most of the time. Your NCing seems to change in the beginning. It gets more consistent in the end, but it's still inconsistent. Why didn't you utilize the downbeat for your NCing?

00:20:117 (4,5) - why not use the 4 to blanket 5 and use 1.2x spacing instead of the 1.45x
00:25:967 (1,2,3) - this is pretty confusing to play. you even overmapped with slider 1 by adding an extra repeat. Get rid of that and use a triple leading into the 2nd one

SPOILER

00:29:117 (2) - 1.2x spacing instead of 1x
00:34:967 (1,2,3) - use the same suggestion as 00:25:967 (1,2,3)
00:36:167 - your hitsounding in this part is using normal whistle. To me, they're really unfitting and would be a lot better with soft whistles. Nothing indicates a normal whistle here really
00:37:967 (1) - is the NC really needed? You remove it later in this section but not here
00:38:267 (1) - 1/1 sliders here pertty much ruin the tension behind these 1/2 snappy parts. Try an alternative
00:40:067 (1) - Remove NC
00:42:467 (1) - ^
00:48:767 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - why not just stick to the 3 1/2's instead of using this circle since it's really annoying to play and doesn't fit with the rest of the map you had there
00:52:353 (6) - I suggest you remove whistles not on the chime sound. It feels out of place
00:53:253 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - that being said, this part needs hitsound work. Do the above
00:56:703 (4,5) - 1.2x spacing here. It seems like you're doing blankets on another spacing which is weird to see to begin with
01:12:694 (2) - shouldn't this note be distance snapped onto 1 and not 3?
01:14:644 (2) - remove this note. Overmapping in a calm part is not exciting to here
01:20:494 (1,2) - this spacing is really weird to see. Spacing like 01:15:694 (1,2) is much better than what we have here
01:30:994 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - this is pretty outrageous spacing compared with the slider SV. Are these jumps really needed to be that big
01:45:164 (1,2,3,4) - is this intended to be a consistent square or a rectangle?
01:51:164 (1,2) - bad overlap
01:54:164 (5,6,7,8) - inconsistent spacing, especially the spacing between 7 and 8
01:55:514 (4,5,6) - why the spacing change between 4 and 5. You should make this an equilateral triangle and move the blanket accordingly
02:00:089 (8,1) - this is what I think, but shouldn't 1 change the stream direction and not 8?
02:09:164 (1,2,3,4) - inconsistent spacing and this square looks incredibly bad tbh
02:11:264 (4,5,6,7) - isn't this stack overmapping?
02:25:664 (4,5,6,7) - starting with 4 creates a bad flow from 3 to 4. Start with 5 instead and order the circle of movement from 5 -> 4 -> 6 -> 7 (basically Ctrl+G 4 and 5)
02:36:764 - this break feels so unneeded. Right after this is a note which feels awkward. What gowww did was use 4 spinners for this part and it pretty decently well. A good idea is to use slider art for this section

Good Luck

Leader

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Topic Starter

Leader 2014-07-21T10:57:26+00:00

ktgster

ktgster wrote:
Requested by Leader...
Laziness kicks in hard so...

[General]

01:41:569 - Start kiai here. Really no reason to do it on the second half when the first half is pretty much the second half. I added kiai in the second refrain because it's much louder

[Another]

It's a pretty nice map, but some of your spacing that seem to be used with distance snap happened to be inconsistent most of the time. Your NCing seems to change in the beginning. It gets more consistent in the end, but it's still inconsistent. Why didn't you utilize the downbeat for your NCing?

00:20:117 (4,5) - why not use the 4 to blanket 5 and use 1.2x spacing instead of the 1.45x
00:36:167 - your hitsounding in this part is using normal whistle. To me, they're really unfitting and would be a lot better with soft whistles. Nothing indicates a normal whistle here really I actually think they suit that whistle sound much better than soft whistle
00:37:967 (1) - is the NC really needed? You remove it later in this section but not here It's fine
00:38:267 (1) - 1/1 sliders here pertty much ruin the tension behind these 1/2 snappy parts. Try an alternative They aren't many and also are fit, so why not
00:40:067 (1) - Remove NC
00:42:467 (1) - ^
00:48:767 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - why not just stick to the 3 1/2's instead of using this circle since it's really annoying to play and doesn't fit with the rest of the map you had there I'll probably change it later
01:12:694 (2) - shouldn't this note be distance snapped onto 1 and not 3? I like this pattern
01:30:994 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - this is pretty outrageous spacing compared with the slider SV. Are these jumps really needed to be that big Just nerfed them a bit
02:00:089 (8,1) - this is what I think, but shouldn't 1 change the stream direction and not 8? That's what it actually does
02:11:264 (4,5,6,7) - isn't this stack overmapping? Listen carefully
02:36:764 - this break feels so unneeded. Right after this is a note which feels awkward. What gowww did was use 4 spinners for this part and it pretty decently well. A good idea is to use slider art for this section The break is totally intentional here, players would be surprised when they just had to wait for a single circle lol

Good Luck

sankyuu

ExPew

Elite Mapper

1,220 posts

Joined January 2011

ExPew 2014-07-21T11:12:51+00:00

Irreversible wrote:
Promised mod!~

[General]

Check aimod / aibat please. It complains about the osu!mania diffs (since there seems to be a BPM change). I assume it has to be consistent? -fixed
In the begin of the song could be more hitsounds, such as whistles. Consider adding some. - If you point to mania diff,i dont think it very fit.

renew MX and HD - http://puu.sh/akFu7/23ab2f6a82.rar

Iceskulls

1,612 posts

Joined February 2012

Iceskulls 2014-07-24T06:00:08+00:00

Hello there from my modding queue

[General]
Check letter box duruing break (your map have break time)

[gowww's Extra]

00:24:017 (4,3) - Stack
00:34:967 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - You can decrease the volume here because I think kick slider sound a bit too lound
01:39:994 (1) - How about use 1/8 beat snap divisor here I think it sound more better
01:44:414 (5,7) - Better blanket https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1850614
02:05:264 (5) - Ctrl+G I think it will give better flow
02:06:764 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Hmm.. when I play this part I usually accidently go for (8) instead of (7) maybe rotate (7) 180 degree so it can the flow more linear
02:21:914 (5,1,2,3,4) - How about switch around (2) and (1) because I think it better to emphasis in pitch sound here 02:22:214 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1850652

[Another]

From aimod

00:31:967 (4,8) - Stack at head
00:40:367 (1,5,6) - Stack
00:48:767 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - How about increase DS gradually from (5) to (8)
00:51:303 (2,7) - Stack at tail
00:57:303 (6,4) - Stack
01:43:214 (2,3) - This blanket can improve https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1850684
02:25:214 (3) - Ctrl+G better flow
02:44:489 (1) - xD well...you can add spinner before this note xD

[cheesiest's Hyper]

01:12:994 (4,1) - Stack at tail
01:18:694 - This here feel empty how about add a note here?
01:30:094 (1,2) - I don't know what are you follow here but how about end (2) at 01:30:694 - that where the beat play
02:14:864 (8) - Ctrl+G better flow
02:44:489 (1) - Same as Another xD

[Normal]

Widescreen checked in this diff but why it doesn't on other diffs?
Make circle a little bit bigger so it suit for Normal diff

00:24:017 (4) - Delete, I think the beat doesn't sound strong there so it might be hard for Normal player
00:44:267 - I hear instrument sound here so you can add a note here
01:49:964 - I hear beat here add a note
01:50:114 (5) - Delete, I think beat doesn't sound strong here
02:44:489 (1) - Same as Another

[Beginner]

00:46:367 (3,3) - Stack
02:44:489 (1) - Same as Another

Good mapset just as I suspected so I give this a star
Well done Leader

Good luck

LordRaika

Elite Mapper

1,438 posts

Joined September 2013

LordRaika 2014-07-28T16:51:58+00:00

osu ^^/

hmm for the mania set, if im not mistaken NM is necessary right?
if the O!M BAT think so...

can i have the 7K NM? thanks, i'll finished it with clean work and hitsound since its only NM

thanks ^^

Dainesl

898 posts

Joined May 2012

Dainesl 2014-07-30T12:12:46+00:00

holidays make me unable to answer mods. ugh.

Charlotte wrote:
Dain's Muzukashii

00:44:567 (111) - change k the louder instruments don't play here so much, so no change
00:58:503 (173) - change K no, because it'd be inconsistent with so many other notes ;w;
01:31:744 (126,127) - change K ^ and also because the song is quieter here
02:02:864 (95,96) - ctrl + G the notes are fine as they are imo; they seem to fit well with the music.
02:27:614 (205) - change d the specific instrument used here suggests a k like lots of other times, so no change
02:27:914 (207,208) - change K no because again it'd be inconsistent with many other things.

thanks for the mod I guess but I ended up denying everything ;_;

Leader

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Topic Starter

Leader 2014-07-30T19:44:03+00:00

lordraika wrote:
osu ^^/

hmm for the mania set, if im not mistaken NM is necessary right?
if the O!M BAT think so...

can i have the 7K NM? thanks, i'll finished it with clean work and hitsound since its only NM

thanks ^^

It just needs 2 diffs, so it's not necessary and I don't want to add other difficulties sorry

LordRaika

Elite Mapper

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Joined September 2013

LordRaika 2014-07-31T01:03:57+00:00

okay

np ^^

GL on ranked ^w^/

Lunatic Raccoon

546 posts

Joined May 2013

Lunatic Raccoon 2014-08-11T09:52:41+00:00

This is my Mania Mod from Q!
Modding Pew's HD and MX (OMG i'm modding ExPeewee's diff!!!) Please don't kill me T_T

Pew's HD

00:57:753 Unsnap one note
00:57:903 ^
00:59:103 Add a LN
01:01:803 to 01:03:753 How about Zig-zag?
01:11:194 Add a note in coll 7
01:12:094 ^
01:12:094 - 01:12:994 - 01:13:894 ^
Why 01:19:294 and 01:21:694 Have only two notes?
01:34:444 to 01:39:394 Add note for "tick-tock" sound
01:39:994 Add a LN
02:22:364 - 02:25:064 Add a note/notes

Pew's MX

01:01:803 to 01:03:753 Zig-zag
01:17:344 Add a note
01:17:944 - 01:20:344 - 01:24:994 - 01:27:394 -... ^ I think you missed some beats
01:34:444 to 01:39:394 "tick-tock"
01:39:994 Add 2 or more LNs
Kiai time = Suicide time

Well good luck!

ExPew

Elite Mapper

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ExPew 2014-08-17T05:45:30+00:00

Lunatic Raccoon wrote:
This is my Mania Mod from Q!
Modding Pew's HD and MX (OMG i'm modding ExPeewee's diff!!!) Please don't kill me T_T ahaha lol

Pew's HD
00:57:753 Unsnap one note- where got unsnapped?
00:57:903 ^ ^
00:59:103 Add a LN - no
01:01:803 to 01:03:753 How about Zig-zag? no good
01:11:194 Add a note in coll 7 - added
01:12:094 ^ ^
01:12:094 - 01:12:994 - 01:13:894 ^ ^
Why 01:19:294 and 01:21:694 Have only two notes? - because in .bms file has not kick.wav keysound
01:34:444 to 01:39:394 Add note for "tick-tock" sound - nice, but i prefer clock sound note at BGM
01:39:994 Add a LN - no good
02:22:364 - 02:25:064 Add a note/notes -added

Pew's MX
01:01:803 to 01:03:753 Zig-zag -same with HD
01:17:344 Add a note - added
01:17:944 - 01:20:344 - 01:24:994 - 01:27:394 -... ^ I think you missed some beats ^ added
01:34:444 to 01:39:394 "tick-tock" - nope
01:39:994 Add 2 or more LNs - no , high speed here.
Kiai time = Suicide time killlll

Well good luck!

thanks

HD : http://puu.sh/aVSD0/265741920f.osu

MX : http://puu.sh/aVSAf/e26872d839.osu

[CSGA]Ar3sgice

4,298 posts

Joined July 2011

[CSGA]Ar3sgice 2014-08-18T14:37:58+00:00

hmm

cheesiest's hyper:
02:15:164 (1,2) - hmm
02:22:364 (2,3,4,5,6) - move left 2grid
02:35:564 (3,4) - ?

gowww's extra:
00:29:267 (10) - add whistle at slider head
00:46:367 (9,10,1) - remove (10) wwww
00:58:503 (4,6,7) - why don't place notes out of slider
01:05:194 (5) - use 2x speed and add a note wwww
01:11:044 - add note stacking on (2)
01:41:939 (2) - remove this?

another:
i think you shouldn't use normal whistle in the part around 00:37:811 it will sound noisy, soft whistle is better
on the other hand, normal whistle fits better in kiai part at 02:04:012

01:03:994 - add storyboard here (and remove this circle

Sprite,Background,Centre,"hitcircle.png",320,248
 F,0,60453,61633,0,0.8
 F,0,60453,62814,0.8
 S,0,60453,63994,0.584375
 F,0,62814,63050,0.8,1
 F,0,63050,63994,1
 F,0,63994,,1
 S,0,63994,,0.584375
 C,0,63994,,133,133,133
Sprite,Background,Centre,"default-1.png",320,248
 F,0,60453,61633,0,0.8
 F,0,60453,62814,0.8
 F,0,62814,63050,0.8,1
 F,0,63050,63994,1
 F,0,63994,,1
 S,0,63994,,0.4675
Sprite,Background,Centre,"hitcircleoverlay.png",320,248
 F,0,60453,61633,0,0.8
 F,0,60453,62814,0.8
 S,0,60453,63994,0.584375
 F,0,62814,63050,0.8,1
 F,0,63050,63994,1
 F,0,63994,,1
 S,0,63994,,0.584375
Sprite,Background,Centre,"approachcircle.png",320,248
 F,0,60453,61633,0,1
 S,0,60453,61803,2.3375,1.669124
 F,0,61633,63994,1
 S,0,61803,61878,1.669124,1.83486
 S,0,61878,62103,1.83486,1.37344
 S,0,62103,62178,1.37344,1.643312
 S,0,62178,62403,1.643312,1.512111
 S,0,62403,62478,1.512111,1.574642
 S,0,62478,62628,1.574642,1.080585
 S,0,62628,62703,1.080585,1.182447
 S,0,62703,63003,1.182447,1.043468
 S,0,63003,63078,1.043468,1.153629
 S,0,63078,63228,1.153629,1.060411
 S,0,63228,63303,1.060411,1.129726
 S,0,63303,63678,1.129726,0.7564855
 S,0,63678,63753,0.7564855,0.8905014
 S,0,63753,63828,0.8905014,0.7393962
 S,0,63828,63903,0.7393962,0.8201398
 S,0,63903,63994,0.8201398,0.584375
 C,0,63994,,133,133,133

and in .osu file add under (general)

UseSkinSprites: 1

nicemap w

riffy

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riffy 2014-08-19T09:11:04+00:00

Sorry, I am late. @.@

[General]

Clean.

[Beginner]

As we've discussed via in-game you did a few changes.

here's an IRC log, in case if anyone needs it

22:48 *-Bakari- is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/380229 sasakure.UK - AVALON [Beginner]]
22:49 -Bakari-: Please, set OD a bit lower, the song has some timing/polarity changes and its BPM is really high, so lowering diff settings makes sense 
22:51 Leader: mhm k
22:53 -Bakari-: 01:16:894 (2) - minor - on 4:3 displays, this slider might get overlapped with HP-Bar, try moving it down a bit? 
22:55 Leader: why not, fixed
22:56 -Bakari-: [http://puu.sh/aXOhQ.jpg this] is what some beginners will see while playing 01:25:294 (1,2) - this pattern. the flow feels kinda broken here 
22:56 -Bakari-: as an alternative, you can try [http://puu.sh/aXOoM.jpg this]
22:57 Leader: nah, used a straight slider \o/
23:00 -Bakari-: 01:28:894 (3,1,2) - as a beginner I'd hit (2) instead of (1) for sure. just because it is closer and beginners often click on whatever they see without even looking at numbers 
23:02 -Bakari-: 01:45:164 (4,1,2) - this is the only stack like this in the whole diff, it takes less than a minute to fix this and make the diff look neater and more understandable. [http://puu.sh/aXOLi.jpg a picture]
23:04 -Bakari-: the rest of the diff looks pretty neat, nicely done

Now the diff is okay from my point of view, although I don't really agree with 01:28:894 (3,1,2) - this pattern, but meh, it's still readable.

[Normal]

01:18:094 (1,5) - minor - they are overlapped with the default HP-Bar, even on 16:9 display, I suggest you re-arranging pattern a bit to avoid this.
Note: 02:25:514 (4) - might be a trouble for 4:3 display users.
01:19:294 (5) - try to finish this one on the red tick (01:19:444), it will actually match better with the sound and give an make the pattern slightly easier due to 1/1 gap to the next circle.

I think that you're overusing 1/2 patterns for non-kiai parts and beacuse of that, kiai-time feels too easy. Try to get rid of some 1/2s in non-kiai parts to make the spread and the diff itself feel more balanced. This is a 200 BOM song, after all.

[cheesiest's Hyper]

01:03:603 - try to finish the slidr here to represent the music better, the same was done on the guest Another, so, why not.
01:11:194 (3,1) - minor - the transition does not flow good and feels forced. To improve the transition, try moving the stack to theright side. example

Not so much to say, well done.

[Another]

I'd drop OD by 0,5 since this is not the hardest diff of the mapset and gowww's is supposed to be harder. It will make your diff more playable and improve the balance of the spread.
01:09:094 (1,2) - it's kinda hard to tell whether it's 1/4 or 1/2 while playing. Mind reducing the DS here?
01:23:794 (3) - try to add a new combo here. It will emphasize the beginning of the new part + give some extra HP, which is also nice.
02:18:164 (3) - try to reduce the DS here, the jump feels exaggerated, I'd go with x2.1 or so.

Looks clean, nice diff.

[gowww's Extra]

01:26:344 (3,1) - the jump is surely exaggerated. In fact, there area lot of exaggerated nd some even unfitting jumps, but this one is too fast and does not feel matching here. I highly suggest you to pay more attention to jumps.

Please, get more opinions on the jumps. I am sure that you need to work on them mre and simplify some of them. If you agree, just contat me in-game and we can discuss your jumps and fix some of them step by step.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Best of luck!

Low

2,006 posts

Joined July 2011

Low 2014-08-21T05:01:09+00:00

[Beginner]
OD +1. this may be a beginner difficulty, but players should still be able to hold a decent rhythm while playing.
00:40:367 (1) - at 4:3 windowed resolution, this goes slightly off-screen. shift it up a grid
00:56:853 (2,3) - curve these sliders to match the curves of 00:55:653 (1), like this. it's more aesthetically pleasing than what you have now

SPOILER

01:30:094 (1) - add a whistle here. i don't see why you suddenly stopped following this sound in the music.
01:31:294 (3) - ^
01:58:064 (2) - shift this down a grid to make a perfect line
02:27:314 (3) - the start of this slider should be in the normal sampleset. the heavy beat is in the music

[Normal]
00:24:167 (4) - clap should be removed from the end of this slider and placed on the beginning.
00:53:253 (1) - should be a whistle at the end of this slider.
00:56:853 (3) - ^
01:58:364 (1,2,3,4,1) - you shouldn't have anti-jumps in a normal difficulty. the song already has a confusing rhythm for inexperienced players, so don't make it more complicated by adding inconsistent spacing. make a star pattern like this and shift the following objects according to distance spacing.

SPOILER

02:22:064 (2) - start of this should be in the normal sampleset
02:30:014 (4,1) - (1) and the end of (4) should both be in the normal sampleset.

[cheesiest's Hyper]
00:39:617 (4,5,1) - ugly almost-overlap. space them out just a tiny amount more
00:42:917 (3,5) - do this. it flows so much better with the other objects around them.

SPOILER

00:56:103 (2) - i'd move the end node of this slider more to the left. it currently looks a bit clustered with the previous slider

[Another]
00:47:567 (1) - soft
02:30:464 (8,1) - missing normal sampleset
02:33:014 (2) - ^

[gowww]
00:19:667 (7,1,2) - these overlap while playing. shift (1,2) down a bit to avoid this
01:31:294 (1) - this one-note combo doesn't fit

masterpiece diff

[Pew's HD]
00:37:967 (37967|6,38004|5,38042|4,38117|2) - should be 1/6
00:40:067 (40067|4,40104|5,40142|6,40217|2) - ^
00:44:267 (44267|2,44304|1,44342|0,44417|4) - ^
00:50:567 (50567|2,50604|1,50642|0,50717|5) - ^
01:39:994 - you should add hold sliders to follow the effect in the music here.

SPOILER

[Pew's MX]
00:37:967 (37967|6,38004|5,38042|4,38117|3) - same as HD
00:40:067 (40067|6,40104|5,40142|4,40217|3) - ^
00:44:267 (44267|2,44304|1,44342|0,44417|3) - ^
00:50:567 (50567|5,50604|4,50642|3,50717|1) - ^
01:39:994 - you should add hold sliders to follow the effect in the music here.

gl

jesse1412

1,457 posts

Joined January 2010

jesse1412 2014-08-21T22:12:46+00:00

[gowww's extra]

People who play hd will love you more if you start the map with a slider...
00:26:417 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - These all go in a straight line which is very awkward. It'd play much better if you maybe moved the 2nd triples up/down to make a triangle rather than a line.
00:59:103 (1) - Alright, this slider has a rather large "spike" so to speak, flatten that out so that players don't have to try and understand too much. It's honestly just incredibly awkward to follow as it is but that'd help ease it out a little. The spike happens between 01:00:528 and 01:01:503
01:06:994 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This NEEDS spacing out a little, that or stack the triple.
02:15:164 (1,2) - No need for this jump, you never used 1/4 jumps anywhere else so why here.
02:15:689 (6,7) - ^

[another]

Really nothing that I'd change here apart from 00:48:767 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) this pattern is so awkward for players because the jumps are all fairly straight. If you like the player then change this but it's nothing that's a problem.

Also OD7.5 might be more fitting for this diffi.

Ayu

1,126 posts

Joined December 2011

Ayu 2014-08-24T18:08:16+00:00

Hello. I'm not here to really nitpick on blankets to fill the mod, but I'll still mention some that could be fixed easily and make the design stand out some more. Your own difficulties actually look amazing and are really good, so I'm not sure what others usually tell you but you're a great mapper.

Beginner

01:46:364 (2) - Since this is a Beginner, I'd recommend to avoid this overlap. I've noticed that a lot of the not natural talents have trouble understanding Approach Rate and will usually fail to notice that there's another circle beneath the slider end (I do not entirely know if the slidertrack will help them, but they will need a lot of time to get a hold of the slider start since it's hidden away).
02:20:564 - I think you should map this tiny break, for the same reason mentioned above. Since they'll have trouble understanding AR, they will most likely break the next slider because they'll hit it way too early.

Normal

00:40:817 (2,3,4) - I find this pattern unfitting with the design of the map, mainly because of the curve and the first straight slider matching the repeat slider before, but the other red anchor sliders being in a different degree and one also being longer than the other. I'd suggest to make a curve slider of 3, since it'd look more visually appealing
01:49:214 (2) - I'd repeat this slider instead of the rhythm pattern you've used here, the red tick seems to be a minor beat and i think they'd feel weird having to click the circle there.
01:58:364 (1,2,3,4) - Do know that this might be really tricky. People will start to understand distance so they're probably inclined to 'stream' this.

Hyper

Isn't Hyper usually a lighter kind of insane? Since there's a Normal and a Beginner the difficulty gap may be found a bit too big. I'm not saying this difficulty feels more like an insane, but I've noticed that it does feel a little over Hard. (1.74 => 2.24 => 3.43)
00:22:067 - I'm most certainly hearing a beat here that's been covered in almost every other situation.
00:25:967 (5) - It looks really neat, but I myself always have a little weird feeling when playing something like this. The flow change to sharply go up after such a curve, doesn't really make the flow anything better nor does it emphasize anything in the music.
00:44:567 (1,2) - This jump feels really random and unnecessary. The music doesn't really call for it and you also haven't used them in the upcoming patterns, which it also makes it look like inconsistency.
00:59:103 (1) - This, is epic.
01:41:569 - This is pretty much where the difficulty gap starts to be noticed. The spacing increasing here really makes this part look like as if it was from an easier insane map.
01:52:364 (5) - I usually uncover a small part of the circle in a situation like this. Currently it's entirely hidden underneath the slidertrack, so it will take some reading skills or sense of flow to notice that there's a circle here.
02:04:214 (4) - A follow up of the suggestion above. You should either also move it like mentioned above, or you should move it a little bit without gridsnap so you can actually fully cover it with the slider. If you're going to do it, do it right.

Another

00:18:167 (1,2,3,4) - I don't really like the back and forth too much here. I'd switch (2) & (3), although this is more something subjective. It's fine as-is, but I just don't prefer it this way myself.
01:09:094 (1,2) - I'd rather create an anti-jump here to emphasize the 1/3 and since the current spacing might be confusing, because it's bigger than the spacing between (8) and (1).
01:59:564 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I think this part of the stream could be improved a lot design wise.
02:01:214 (2,3,4,5) - The flow is a little bit going anywhere here (reference).

Extra

00:27:617 (3,4,5) - Where's the jump you've used in the other situations? It's the same rhythm and music pattern as the other ones, so you should really stick to 1 idea. Either use a jump like the other ones, or remove the jumps on the other ones. This way it looks really inconsistent.
00:36:167 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This pattern also has incosistent spacing and feels extremely wrong. There's nothing in the music that makes it feel like you should increase the spacing, nor did you use it in other situations like these.
00:59:103 (1) - Nice try, but you should take cheesiest's slider more as example. The begin looks nice and creative and all, but feels unrespectful to the music as it adds nothing. Also, consider changing the bump on 01:02:253 - as this might be unrankable regarding readability and playability of the slider, it's not entirely what you expect the slider to do.
01:05:194 (5) - Why didn't you use a triple here, like you did with 01:07:594 (4,5,6) - ?
01:09:094 (2) - I think this is supposed to end on 1/3, there's no music where you've ended it currently.
01:31:294 (1) - What's this new combo doing here? It makes no sense to put one here.
01:38:794 (1) - This slider seems like nothing but overmap. The sound of it is pretty loud, but it's mapped to nothing. Instead of putting the slider here, consider to end the break here and leave it empty.
01:51:164 (1,2,3) - You're using a wrong rhythm pattern here. There's no reason to put actual pressure on the blue tick, especially because it removed the pressure on (1) which actually feels like it should be emphasized.
02:15:164 (1,2,7,8) - Please keep the distance consistent, it doesn't fit at all.

Wonderful map, especially the Another which I liked very much. Although, I was dissapointed by goww's Extra as it feels really unpolished and random at times. Try to work on emphasizing the music and adjust the feel of the map to the feel of the music.

Maiz94

1,376 posts

Joined June 2010

Maiz94 2014-08-24T19:19:12+00:00

Um, no NM or EZ on this mapset?

Leader

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Topic Starter

Leader 2014-08-24T22:19:43+00:00

ishimaru94 wrote:
Um, no NM or EZ on this mapset?

Nah..

Btw, will update stuff tomorrow, thanks for the nice mods

ExPew

Elite Mapper

1,220 posts

Joined January 2011

ExPew 2014-08-26T08:35:50+00:00

fixed all unsanpped note...except adding notes

HD : http://puu.sh/b8mEu/e3c45a35d8.osu

MX : http://puu.sh/b8mES/cd5587ce96.osu

@ishimaru94.. no more NM in hybrid set... btw help me mod sv changes give me 01:40:894 to 01:41:569 - give me more smooth sv changes

Maiz94

1,376 posts

Joined June 2010

Maiz94 2014-08-26T20:17:40+00:00

SV mod req via in-game pm \:D/

First of all, this timing at 01:39:994 - is kept because it syncs with the "screeeeech" sounds and also, I used this timing, 01:41:044 - as a start in the middle of SV because the drum sound is presents. The original that you made having 1-2 green lines that doesn't have sounds at all and it's not recommended for doing it.

-------------------
Okay, delete these timing offset of green lines.

100894,-666.666666666667,4,2,0,5,0,1
101119,-333.333333333333,4,2,0,5,0,1
101194,-200,4,2,0,5,0,0
101344,-100,4,2,0,5,0,0
101494,-80,4,2,0,5,0,0

or in picture

Then, choose the options you want to pick below.

Opt. 1
If you'd like to visualize the gameplay of creating Sociometry-like SV changes, copy this timing. I have tested x0.5 & x0.25 but both seems too good for me. lolol .. Well, your choice now.

1) x0.25

101044,-400,4,2,0,5,0,1

2) x0.5

101044,-200,4,2,0,5,0,1

Opt. 2
If you'd like to visualize the gameplay to be smooth as you said in previous reply, copy these timings. Also, both of these timings are too good. hhhhh
Your choice.

1) starting from x0.125

101044,-800,4,2,0,5,0,1
101119,-400,4,2,0,5,0,1
101194,-266.666666666667,4,2,0,5,0,1
101269,-200,4,2,0,5,0,1
101344,-160,4,2,0,5,0,1
101419,-133.333333333333,4,2,0,5,0,1
101494,-114.285714285714,4,2,0,5,0,1

2) starting from x0.25

101044,-400,4,2,0,5,0,1
101219,-200,4,2,0,5,0,1
101394,-133.333333333333,4,2,0,5,0,1

Good luck!

Last edited by Maiz94 2014-08-26T20:23:15+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Leader

osu! Alumni

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Topic Starter

Leader 2014-08-26T20:22:08+00:00

Ayu

Ayu wrote:
Hello. I'm not here to really nitpick on blankets to fill the mod, but I'll still mention some that could be fixed easily and make the design stand out some more. Your own difficulties actually look amazing and are really good, so I'm not sure what others usually tell you but you're a great mapper.

Beginner
01:46:364 (2) - Since this is a Beginner, I'd recommend to avoid this overlap. I've noticed that a lot of the not natural talents have trouble understanding Approach Rate and will usually fail to notice that there's another circle beneath the slider end (I do not entirely know if the slidertrack will help them, but they will need a lot of time to get a hold of the slider start since it's hidden away).bI think they'll be able to do it since the incoming of the new skin
02:20:564 - I think you should map this tiny break, for the same reason mentioned above. Since they'll have trouble understanding AR, they will most likely break the next slider because they'll hit it way too early. But there's nothing relevant to map, I'd rather leave them a very little break time

Normal
00:40:817 (2,3,4) - I find this pattern unfitting with the design of the map, mainly because of the curve and the first straight slider matching the repeat slider before, but the other red anchor sliders being in a different degree and one also being longer than the other. I'd suggest to make a curve slider of 3, since it'd look more visually appealing This part has some angled sliders so it's fine
01:49:214 (2) - I'd repeat this slider instead of the rhythm pattern you've used here, the red tick seems to be a minor beat and i think they'd feel weird having to click the circle there. Rhythm is fine imo
01:58:364 (1,2,3,4) - Do know that this might be really tricky. People will start to understand distance so they're probably inclined to 'stream' this. DON'T KILL MAPPER SPIRITS

Another
00:18:167 (1,2,3,4) - I don't really like the back and forth too much here. I'd switch (2) & (3), although this is more something subjective. It's fine as-is, but I just don't prefer it this way myself. It's probably your opinion
01:09:094 (1,2) - I'd rather create an anti-jump here to emphasize the 1/3 and since the current spacing might be confusing, because it's bigger than the spacing between (8) and (1). It's actually 1/8 and it's barely noticeable
01:59:564 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I think this part of the stream could be improved a lot design wise. How though ;_;
02:01:214 (2,3,4,5) - The flow is a little bit going anywhere here (reference). B-But it plays great to me

Wonderful map, especially the Another which I liked very much. Although, I was dissapointed by goww's Extra as it feels really unpolished and random at times. Try to work on emphasizing the music and adjust the feel of the map to the feel of the music.

Low

Low wrote:
[Beginner]
OD +1. this may be a beginner difficulty, but players should still be able to hold a decent rhythm while playing.
00:40:367 (1) - at 4:3 windowed resolution, this goes slightly off-screen. shift it up a grid
00:56:853 (2,3) - curve these sliders to match the curves of 00:55:653 (1), like this. it's more aesthetically pleasing than what you have now
SPOILER
I really like myy straight sliders there
01:30:094 (1) - add a whistle here. i don't see why you suddenly stopped following this sound in the music.
01:31:294 (3) - ^
01:58:064 (2) - shift this down a grid to make a perfect line
02:27:314 (3) - the start of this slider should be in the normal sampleset. the heavy beat is in the music

[Normal]
00:24:167 (4) - clap should be removed from the end of this slider and placed on the beginning.
00:53:253 (1) - should be a whistle at the end of this slider.
00:56:853 (3) - ^
01:58:364 (1,2,3,4,1) - you shouldn't have anti-jumps in a normal difficulty. the song already has a confusing rhythm for inexperienced players, so don't make it more complicated by adding inconsistent spacing. make a star pattern like this and shift the following objects according to distance spacing. But I like it, and I love to have a tricky pattern in my diff.
SPOILER
02:22:064 (2) - start of this should be in the normal sampleset
02:30:014 (4,1) - (1) and the end of (4) should both be in the normal sampleset.

[Another]
00:47:567 (1) - soft
02:30:464 (8,1) - missing normal sampleset
02:33:014 (2) - ^

gl

-Bakari-

-Bakari- wrote:
Sorry, I am late. @.@

[General]

Clean.
[Beginner]
As we've discussed via in-game you did a few changes.

Now the diff is okay from my point of view, although I don't really agree with 01:28:894 (3,1,2) - this pattern, but meh, it's still readable. I'd leave it
[Normal]
01:18:094 (1,5) - minor - they are overlapped with the default HP-Bar, even on 16:9 display, I suggest you re-arranging pattern a bit to avoid this.
Note: 02:25:514 (4) - might be a trouble for 4:3 display users.
01:19:294 (5) - try to finish this one on the red tick (01:19:444), it will actually match better with the sound and give an make the pattern slightly easier due to 1/1 gap to the next circle. I don't feel like having a stack there @_@

I think that you're overusing 1/2 patterns for non-kiai parts and beacuse of that, kiai-time feels too easy. Try to get rid of some 1/2s in non-kiai parts to make the spread and the diff itself feel more balanced. This is a 200 BPM song, after all. Kiai time gives me a smoother sensation than the non-kiai parts, so I rather map like I did.
[Another]
I'd drop OD by 0,5 since this is not the hardest diff of the mapset and gowww's is supposed to be harder. It will make your diff more playable and improve the balance of the spread.
01:09:094 (1,2) - it's kinda hard to tell whether it's 1/4 or 1/2 while playing. Mind reducing the DS here? That's 1/8 and it's barely noticeable tbh
01:23:794 (3) - try to add a new combo here. It will emphasize the beginning of the new part + give some extra HP, which is also nice.
02:18:164 (3) - try to reduce the DS here, the jump feels exaggerated, I'd go with x2.1 or so. I'll see..

Looks clean, nice diff.
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Best of luck!

Ar3sgice

[CSGA]Ar3sgice wrote:

another:
i think you shouldn't use normal whistle in the part around 00:37:811 it will sound noisy, soft whistle is better Normal whistle fits more the song sample in my opinion
on the other hand, normal whistle fits better in kiai part at 02:04:012

01:03:994 - add storyboard here (and remove this circle) I'll think about it!

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nicemap w

Thaaanks!

cheesiest

721 posts

Joined September 2009

cheesiest 2014-08-26T23:09:31+00:00

Irreversible

Irreversible wrote:
[cheesiest's Hard]

00:22:067 - How about adding a circle here to match the strong beat in the background? Without it, it seems like something is missing. nah
00:49:217 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This pattern looks a bit unclean if I compare it to how you've mapped the rest. fixed it to be a bit more tidier
00:59:103 (1) - wow o.o cool thank
01:32:494 (1) - add nc? ok i guess

Nice slidershapes and the rhythm is cool tho. Except the pattern above I have nothing to complain about, I assume.

CelsiusLK

CelsiusLK wrote:
[cheesiest's Hyper]
01:12:994 (4,1) - Stack at tail no
01:18:694 - This here feel empty how about add a note here? no
01:30:094 (1,2) - I don't know what are you follow here but how about end (2) at 01:30:694 - that where the beat play haha no
02:14:864 (8) - Ctrl+G better flow nah
02:44:489 (1) - Same as Another xD stop putting spinners in fade outs 2k14

Ar3 (what do u even want me to do can we please stop w/ these vague mods this is so annoying)

[CSGA]Ar3sgice wrote:
hmm

cheesiest's hyper:
02:15:164 (1,2) - hmm what
02:22:364 (2,3,4,5,6) - move left 2grid no
02:35:564 (3,4) - ? what

-Bakari-

-Bakari- wrote:
[cheesiest's Hyper]
01:03:603 - try to finish the slidr here to represent the music better, the same was done on the guest Another, so, why not. there is no sound that starts or w/e there or any fade out there :////
01:11:194 (3,1) - minor - the transition does not flow good and feels forced. To improve the transition, try moving the stack to theright side. not sure what you mean, so im keeping it as it is, since i find it to be fine atmexample

Not so much to say, well done.

Low

Low wrote:
[cheesiest's Hyper]
00:39:617 (4,5,1) - ugly almost-overlap. space them out just a tiny amount more personally, i like them like that
00:42:917 (3,5) - do this. it flows so much better with the other objects around them. !!!!!!! tru
SPOILER
00:56:103 (2) - i'd move the end node of this slider more to the left. it currently looks a bit clustered with the previous slider i want the triangle there lol

Ayu

Ayu wrote:
Hyper
Isn't Hyper usually a lighter kind of insane? Since there's a Normal and a Beginner the difficulty gap may be found a bit too big. I'm not saying this difficulty feels more like an insane, but I've noticed that it does feel a little over Hard. (1.74 => 2.24 => 3.43)
00:22:067 - I'm most certainly hearing a beat here that's been covered in almost every other situation. intro tbh
00:25:967 (5) - It looks really neat, but I myself always have a little weird feeling when playing something like this. The flow change to sharply go up after such a curve, doesn't really make the flow anything better nor does it emphasize anything in the music. too bad i can't extend that slider further to fill the gap that makes the flow weird since ya
00:44:567 (1,2) - This jump feels really random and unnecessary. The music doesn't really call for it and you also haven't used them in the upcoming patterns, which it also makes it look like inconsistency. im keeping my pattern tbh
00:59:103 (1) - This, is epic.
01:41:569 - This is pretty much where the difficulty gap starts to be noticed. The spacing increasing here really makes this part look like as if it was from an easier insane map. well, y'know, the music got more intense
01:52:364 (5) - I usually uncover a small part of the circle in a situation like this. Currently it's entirely hidden underneath the slidertrack, so it will take some reading skills or sense of flow to notice that there's a circle here.
02:04:214 (4) - A follow up of the suggestion above. You should either also move it like mentioned above, or you should move it a little bit without gridsnap so you can actually fully cover it with the slider. If you're going to do it, do it right. doin' it well. fixed

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105,17,139664,2,0,P|142:31|172:59,1,80,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,108,139964,6,0,L|256:188,2,80,4|0|0,1:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,60,140414,1,0,1:0:0:0:
344,64,140714,1,8,0:0:0:0:
348,68,141014,1,0,1:0:0:0:
352,72,141314,1,0,0:0:0:0:
408,128,141464,2,0,L|380:204,1,80,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
319,300,141764,2,0,L|291:224,1,80,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
186,179,142064,22,0,L|214:255,1,80,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
252,324,142364,1,8,0:0:0:0:
172,324,142514,1,0,0:0:0:0:
168,320,142814,1,8,0:0:0:0:
164,316,143114,1,0,1:0:0:0:
160,312,143414,1,8,0:0:0:0:
104,256,143564,2,0,L|132:180,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
196,84,143864,2,0,L|224:160,1,80,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,232,144164,6,0,P|296:248|352:236,1,80,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
394,196,144464,1,8,0:0:0:0:
405,275,144614,2,0,L|420:378,1,80,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
469,227,144914,2,0,L|454:124,1,80,8|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
450,68,145214,2,0,P|388:117|296:98,1,160,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,59,145664,2,0,L|156:82,1,80,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
67,134,145964,2,0,L|145:154,1,80,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,168,146264,5,0,1:0:0:0:
173,229,146414,1,0,0:0:0:0:
251,243,146564,1,8,0:0:0:0:
201,305,146714,2,0,P|142:304|93:223,1,160,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
100,144,147164,2,0,L|110:27,1,80,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,4,147464,1,0,0:0:0:0:
185,79,147614,1,2,0:0:0:0:
238,19,147764,1,2,0:0:0:0:
263,94,147914,2,0,L|294:188,1,80,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
313,245,148214,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,304,148364,6,0,L|256:384,2,80,0|0|8,1:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
198,245,148814,1,0,1:0:0:0:
194,241,149114,1,8,0:0:0:0:
190,237,149414,1,0,1:0:0:0:
186,233,149714,1,0,0:0:0:0:
120,192,149864,2,0,L|50:152,1,80,0|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
173,118,150164,2,0,L|133:48,1,80,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,80,150464,22,0,L|256:0,2,80,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
313,138,150914,1,0,0:0:0:0:
317,142,151214,1,8,0:0:0:0:
321,146,151514,1,0,1:0:0:0:
325,150,151814,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,192,151964,2,0,L|461:232,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
339,266,152264,2,0,L|379:335,1,80,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,304,152564,6,0,P|208:312|160:292,1,80,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
108,268,152864,1,8,0:0:0:0:
175,224,153014,2,0,P|199:160|155:52,1,160,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
108,31,153464,1,0,1:0:0:0:
41,75,153614,2,0,P|17:139|61:247,1,160,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
32,304,154064,2,0,L|20:404,1,80,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
184,383,154364,2,0,L|180:304,1,80,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
174,224,154664,6,0,L|164:64,1,160,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,100,155114,2,0,P|356:108|456:36,1,160,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
492,172,155564,1,0,0:0:0:0:
450,255,155714,1,0,0:0:0:0:
502,331,155864,2,0,P|431:326|357:374,1,160,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
260,304,156314,2,0,P|194:348|116:344,1,160,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
36,256,156764,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,164489,5,2,0:0:0:0:

Pereira006

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Pereira006 2014-08-28T01:54:11+00:00

hi

[Beginner]

Hitsound:

00:40:367 (1) - Missing add finish in start slider, I see you have done other diff with this pattern hitsound, so I think you are missing add finish
02:07:964 (1) - The sampleset missing change "auto" to "normal" in start slider better lot "normal" than auto"
02:15:164 (1) - really need add finish in start sldier

look fine for me

Stuff cool

[Normal]

Hitsound:

00:40:367 (1) - Missind add finish in start slider is same explain before, like diff "beginner"
00:50:853 (1) - The sampleset, missing change "auto" to "normal"
00:56:853 (3) - missing add whistle in start slider
01:24:694 (4) - I feel this really need add whistle, there higher melody better a lot
02:07:964 (1) - The sampleset missing change "auto" to "normal" in start slider, same diff beginner

Gameplay:

00:19:217 (1) - this could remove new combo, there no sense for this music and normal diff
02:16:364 (1) - remove new combo, to fit you style combo color

Stuff cool

[cheesiest's Hyper]

Hitsound:

00:37:067 (3) - Missing add whistle in end slider, there higher melody
00:40:367 (1) - Really need add finish in start slider there higher beat + drum IMO
00:44:267 (8) - missing add whistle, same higher melody that I can hear
00:45:917 (4,5) - (4) in end slider that melody is more stronger than (5) in start slider. remove whistle in (5) and add (4) in end slider, feel better a lot
00:46:667 (1) - Need add finish in start slider
01:14:794 (2,3,4) - Need add whisle all notes, there melody I mean piano, better IMO
02:07:964 (1) - you forget change that sampleset "auto" to "normal"

Gameplay:

00:44:567 (T) and 00:44:867 (T) I don't get this timing... speed 1.04 is nothing feel same 1.00, could remove this 2 timing
01:41:564 at 01:51:164 - I don't get it you style combo color, Example, 01:45:164 (1) - the melody and beat is higher because white tick long, that sense new combo color, so why you didn't put new combo at 01:42:764 (4), 01:47:564 (4), and many more, that could fit you style combo color, I mean re-combo color 01:41:564 at 01:51:164 or 01:45:164 (1) - remove new combo only that. I like more you style the combo color is 01:51:164 at 02:00:464.

Sorry I try explain but my english is bad and poor
Stuff cool

[Another]

Hitsound:

01:10:294 at 01:15:694 - no add some hitsound? I feel whistle could better this part
02:07:964 (1) - missing add finish in start slider

nothing wrong here

[gowww's Extra]

Hitsound:

01:03:994 at 01:11:794 - lack hitsound, try add something, use hitsound diff "Another" is better IMO

Gameplay:

01:31:294 (1) - remove new combo

nothing here wrong for me
[]
gameplay look good for me and hitsound is lot missing add and inconsistency... imo
any question, ask me
Best good luck

ExPew

Elite Mapper

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Joined January 2011

ExPew 2014-08-29T10:12:24+00:00

ishimaru94 wrote:
SV mod req via in-game pm \:D/

First of all, this timing at 01:39:994 - is kept because it syncs with the "screeeeech" sounds and also, I used this timing, 01:41:044 - as a start in the middle of SV because the drum sound is presents. The original that you made having 1-2 green lines that doesn't have sounds at all and it's not recommended for doing it.

-------------------
Okay, delete these timing offset of green lines.
100894,-666.666666666667,4,2,0,5,0,1
101119,-333.333333333333,4,2,0,5,0,1
101194,-200,4,2,0,5,0,0
101344,-100,4,2,0,5,0,0

101494,-80,4,2,0,5,0,0
or in picture

Then, choose the options you want to pick below.

Opt. 1
If you'd like to visualize the gameplay of creating Sociometry-like SV changes, copy this timing. I have tested x0.5 & x0.25 but both seems too good for me. lolol .. Well, your choice now.

1) x0.25
101044,-400,4,2,0,5,0,1
2) x0.5
101044,-200,4,2,0,5,0,1
i fotgot dy sociometry BPM changes hhhhhh...but dat stop feel no good yet (prefer opt2 more better)

Opt. 2
If you'd like to visualize the gameplay to be smooth as you said in previous reply, copy these timings. Also, both of these timings are too good. hhhhh
Your choice.

1) starting from x0.125
101044,-800,4,2,0,5,0,1
101119,-400,4,2,0,5,0,1
101194,-266.666666666667,4,2,0,5,0,1
101269,-200,4,2,0,5,0,1
101344,-160,4,2,0,5,0,1
101419,-133.333333333333,4,2,0,5,0,1
101494,-114.285714285714,4,2,0,5,0,1
- opt2 more better my thought.....feel more better the sv keep moving faster with smoothly, thanks

2) starting from x0.25
101044,-400,4,2,0,5,0,1
101219,-200,4,2,0,5,0,1
101394,-133.333333333333,4,2,0,5,0,1
Good luck!

[Fixed]

HD : http://puu.sh/bcydH/c0d2d30eb4.osu
-fixed unsnapped note

MX : http://puu.sh/bcyf5/6d605eea16.osu
-fixed SV changes
-add some missing kick

Roxas

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Roxas 2014-08-29T13:15:37+00:00

pewpewpewwww

[Pew's HD]
00:12:617 (12617|4) - This should start in 00:12:542 - . Other LNs starts a bit earlier as you can hear maybe you can put them 1/8 or 1/12 earlier etc
00:56:853 - Hmm I think this can be rearranged a bit like this maybe https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1979408 (just swapped 00:56:853 (56853|6,57003|4) - with 00:57:153 (57153|6,57303|5,57453|3) - )
01:15:694 - I think you can add some notes in those patterns like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1979417 just your choose xD
01:42:764 (102764|3) - I think this should go in 6 (following pitch) and I would move this 01:43:364 (103364|2) - right
01:52:364 (112364|3,112964|4) - Same thing reversed xD

[Pew's MX]
Are you sure about OD10? It's a bit madness tho, I'd put OD9 here and OD7 in HD
00:12:617 (12617|2,12617|6) - Same thing as HD

ExPew

Elite Mapper

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ExPew 2014-08-29T15:43:49+00:00

Roxas wrote:
pewpewpewwww

[Pew's HD]
00:12:617 (12617|4) - This should start in 00:12:542 - . Other LNs starts a bit earlier as you can hear maybe you can put them 1/8 or 1/12 earlier etc fixed
00:56:853 - Hmm I think this can be rearranged a bit like this maybe https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1979408 (just swapped 00:56:853 (56853|6,57003|4) - with 00:57:153 (57153|6,57303|5,57453|3) - ) rearranged
01:15:694 - I think you can add some notes in those patterns like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1979417 just your choose xD add notes
01:42:764 (102764|3) - I think this should go in 6 (following pitch) and I would move this 01:43:364 (103364|2) - right fixed
01:52:364 (112364|3,112964|4) - Same thing reversed xD ^

[Pew's MX]
Are you sure about OD10? It's a bit madness tho, I'd put OD9 here and OD7 in HD Changed
HD OD8.5
MXOD9.5

-since they are keysounds if make od8 no good and less LNmaps
00:12:617 (12617|2,12617|6) - Same thing as HD same

[Fixed]

HD : http://puu.sh/bcP2W/88df289d91.osu
MX : http://puu.sh/bcP4W/93078e02c9.osu

Akasha-

Nomination Assessment Team

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Akasha- 2014-08-30T13:23:00+00:00

sasakure.UK - AVALON [Osu!Mania Modding]

~ ♪ ♫ ♪ ~

From Kuo Kyoka's osu!mania Modding Queses~

Mod Requested by ExPew (Thanks for helping me in re-bubble and ranked)

[Generals]
- BPM: Why needs to add so much BPMs with time signature?
- Offset: Okay
- BG: No problem but suggest to try to find a new BG?
- Tags: Okay
- AiMod: Okay
- Preview Time: Okay
- Diff name: Okay

Column
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
[Pew's HD]

SPOILER

Add a long note at 00:15:017 - and end at 00:17:717 in 7th column
00:19:667 - that 2 notes seems have same sound like the preview notes, remove one of them? just suggest
00:21:767 - ^
00:22:967 - add a note at 5
00:24:167 - maybe just only add a note at 1 and remove 00:23:867 (23867|0,23867|5) - one note and 00:24:467 (24467|1,24467|4) - same
00:25:367 - add a note at
00:26:267 - 00:26:867 - ^ one line
00:28:667 (28667|6,28667|0) - remove one of them?
00:29:717 - strong beat, add a note
00:30:767 (30767|6,30767|4) - remove a note?
00:35:567 - add a note like before, and and suggest 00:34:967 (34967|4) - change to Ln until it get to the next double-white line
00:53:103 (53103|1) - seems hard, suggest move to 1
00:59:103 - suggest add one more note
01:03:678 (63678|3) - change to long note until the next notes?
01:12:694 - 01:13:894 - suggest http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1983124 cause of pattern of 01:13:894 - can like 01:15:094 -
01:15:694 - this part a strong beat more than 01:16:294 - but you use 3 notes after that, suggestr at a note at 7 in 01:15:694 -
01:19:294 - and 01:21:694 - and 01:26:494 - and 01:27:694 - beat still the same volume, why only that part are two notes only?
Suggest 01:32:494 (92494|4) - the end reach until 01:39:244 cause of echo
Add a long begin at 01:39:994 and end at 01:40:744 - ?
01:41:564 - suggest add a least one or two notes
01:43:364 - add a note at 6 cause the before (01:42:014 - 01:42:464 -) used two notes when it's have a long sound in the song
01:45:764 - ^
01:50:564 - 01:51:164 - sound higher, i think it not lower, suggest 01:50:564 (110564|3) - move to 01:50:864 - and 01:51:164 (111164|3) - move to 3 and add a note in 2 if you allowed in add note before, if two, one more note at 5
01:52:964 - add a note at 2
01:55:364 - ^ at 5
02:20:414 - add a note at 6
02:24:614 - ^ at 1
02:26:714 - ^ at 7
02:33:014 - ^ at 1
The last notes, move to 02:44:489 - (1/8 beat) for like the MX, or vice versa
Nice pattern at the middle to end of the kiai, I love it

[Pew's MX]

SPOILER

How about a little 1/4 stream before press long notes? From 00:03:917 - to 00:04:217 -
00:15:017 - Add a long note and end at 00:17:717 -
00:18:617 - add a note cause this sound more stronger and not same like 00:18:167 - and 00:18:317 -
00:20:717 - ^
00:27:617 - ^
00:28:817 - 00:29:267 - suggest http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1983222
00:29:717 - add a note
00:29:717 - ^
00:35:342 (35342|4,35942|4) - doesn't have sound but add hitsound maybe can
00:22:967 - 00:24:167 - 00:25:367 - 00:26:567 - the after (00:31:967 -) used 3 notes but still have samne beat, suggest at 3 notes at those times too
00:35:567 - add a note
00:36:167 - add a note at 6?
Why in MX use 1/8 beat but HD is 1/6? Like 00:37:967 (37967|6,38004|5,38042|4) - hmmm... maybe can cause of diff's rating
In here 00:40:667 - use 3 notes, suggest 00:40:967 - 00:41:867 - (whilte line only) use 3 notes
00:43:067 - 00:43:967 - ^
00:44:567 - 00:48:767 - no streaming? maybe not use it, suggest add some long notes in it
00:45:017 - add a note
00:45:017 - ^ or 2 notes
00:47:117 - ^ (1 only)
00:48:167 - ^ or 2 notes
00:48:767 - 00:49:217 - add a note
00:58:503 (58503|3,58803|4) - change to a long note and end at the whilte line? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1983282
01:03:678 (63678|3) - change to long note and end at the next two notes
01:06:094 - 01:06:694 - suggest add one more note
01:07:894 - 01:08:194 - 01:08:494 - 01:08:794 - 01:09:094 - 01:09:394 - 01:09:694 - 01:09:844 - 01:09:994 - 01:10:144 - 01:10:294 - ^
All the before you use 3 notes (like 01:12:994 (72994|1,72994|4,72994|5) - ) why here are only 2 notes? 01:14:494 - suggest add a note
01:15:694 - add a note at 7
01:27:244 (87244|3,87544|1) - change to? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1983298
01:28:894 - 01:29:494 - 01:30:094 - 01:30:694 - 01:31:294 - 01:31:894 - suggest add one more note cause you used 3 notes at before
Suggest 01:32:494 (92494|0) - end at 01:39:244 -
Add a long note at 01:39:994 - and end at 01:40:744 -
Woa, very very strong beat add here: 01:41:564 - suggest add at least 3 more notes or 4 notes
01:43:364 - add one more note cause that long sound have two notes (01:43:664 (103664|2) - )
01:43:664 (103664|2,105614|2,105914|2,106214|4) - change to the long note and end at the next white line?
01:48:164 - add a note
01:50:414 - ^ same cause before you used 3 notes, but this sound like the before
01:42:464 - add a note cause you used 3 notes at 01:52:064 -
01:52:964 - add a note?
01:55:964 (115964|3) - try to get this end at 01:58:364 -
02:00:014 - 02:00:464 - have different sounds with 01:59:864 - 02:00:164 - suggest a note at 02:00:014 - 02:00:464 -
02:03:164 - add a note at 7
02:05:564 - ^
02:10:364 - 02:11:564 - 02:12:764 - 02:13:964 - 02:15:164 - 02:16:364 - 02:17:564 - 02:18:164 - 02:18:764 - 02:19:364 - not have same beats, suggest add a note in those times! 02:19:964 - add a note at 5
02:22:514 - add a note
02:24:314 - add a note causr after that all use 2 notes and 3 notes for red line and white line too and have almost same beats
02:24:614 - strong beat, add a note at 1
02:26:714 - ^
02:30:914 - ^
02:32:714 - ^
02:33:014 - ^

[Comment]

LOL, longest mod I ever mod it! But my mod always suck xD
Very a good song and a great diffs

Shooted star~
Go rank this pls >w<

Last edited by Akasha- 2014-08-30T13:40:24+00:00, edited 8 times in total.

richardfeder

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Joined March 2013

richardfeder 2014-08-30T13:23:35+00:00

Expew wrote:
MXOD9.5

OD9.5 plus HP9 too god la rate 1

ExPew

Elite Mapper

1,220 posts

Joined January 2011

ExPew 2014-08-30T13:31:28+00:00

richardfeder wrote:
Expew wrote:
MXOD9.5
OD9.5 plus HP9 too god la rate 1

-Leader don't let me drop the OD.... still remain OD10.....but i agree with OD10 hhhhhhhhhhhh

EDIT:

Fixed :

sorry i didnt tell you it's keysounded....most are your mod feel with keysounds too ( maybe you didnt open the show sample name )

HD

00:25:367 - add a note at - added for snare
00:53:103 (53103|1) - seems hard, suggest move to 1 - ok

MX

00:35:342 (35342|4,35942|4) - doesn't have sound but add hitsound maybe can - deleted
01:55:964 (115964|3) - try to get this end at 01:58:364 - - end at 01:57:764 -

don't want to add more notes because in thread Star diff 5.25 ( 5.26 is Extra diff are unrankable for hybrid set )

HD : http://puu.sh/bgJlB/4553a73058.osu
MX : http://puu.sh/bgJmy/9736f21ffd.osu

Akasha-

Nomination Assessment Team

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Joined April 2013

Akasha- 2014-09-02T12:36:35+00:00

lol, okay!
Well, ran my 2 hours for it ;w; but nvm it xD
Good luck on ranking~

Rumia-

2,526 posts

Joined July 2012

Rumia- 2014-09-05T17:52:06+00:00

mania check as request by ExPew,

~~its better to add nm diff for proper diffspread for variety of players~~
i still dont know the rule about the date is still valid or not since the new system will kill maps so i just leave a mod for now

[Pew's HD]
00:32:867 (32867|5) - move to 5
01:09:244 (69244|1) - move to 01:09:281 -
01:11:044 (71044|4) - delete ? to highlight density over here 01:11:194 (71194|6,71194|5) -
01:31:294 (91294|5) - delete and move the 7th note to 6 , doesnt need 4 notes here
02:20:414 - add a note , same dense with 02:19:964-
02:34:364 (154364|4,154514|1,154664|3,154664|5) - ctrl + h ? crowded note at right hand
02:35:864 (155864|3,156014|2) - swap collumn ( according to kick )

[Pew's MX]
00:22:067 - add a note ? kick 2 note like other parts
00:23:717 (23717|1) - move to 1 more fit to music , the kick feels better here
00:24:917 - add 1 note for kick too
00:28:817 (28817|4,28967|5) - move left by 1 would fit the pattern
00:30:617 (30617|2) - move to 1 , the kick felt good here too
00:31:217 - snare 1 note felt weird here , add 1 ?
00:32:717 (32717|1) - move to 1
00:33:917 (33917|1) - ^ lol
00:35:342 (35342|4) - no sound
01:11:044 (71044|5) - move to 7 ? piano pitch
01:09:244 (69244|3) - should be here ? 01:09:281 - ~~can ignore if it causes inconsistency~~
01:11:494 (71494|2) - move left 1
02:31:814 (151814|1) - move left 1

ExPew

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ExPew 2014-09-07T09:57:06+00:00

Rumia- wrote:
mania check as request by ExPew,

~~its better to add nm diff for proper diffspread for variety of players~~
i still dont know the rule about the date is still valid or not since the new system will kill maps so i just leave a mod for now

[Pew's HD]
00:32:867 (32867|5) - move to 5 - moved
01:09:244 (69244|1) - move to 01:09:281 - aku tgk xde pon 1/6 sni checked oh BMS, mcm music ni ade prob
01:11:044 (71044|4) - delete ? to highlight density over here 01:11:194 (71194|6,71194|5) - it's 1/8 actually, removed ( isi kat 1/8 cam cacat tgk )
01:31:294 (91294|5) - delete and move the 7th note to 6 , doesnt need 4 notes here - removed
02:20:414 - add a note , same dense with 02:19:964- added hats
02:34:364 (154364|4,154514|1,154664|3,154664|5) - ctrl + h ? crowded note at right hand ( this pattern feels more better 02:34:664 (154664|5,154739|6,154814|4,154889|6,154964|5,154964|2,155114|4,155114|1,155189|0,155264|2,155339|0,155414|1) - )
02:35:864 (155864|3,156014|2) - swap collumn ( according to kick ) it would better if keep like this pattern

[Pew's MX]
00:22:067 - add a note ? kick 2 note like other parts - nope,
00:23:717 (23717|1) - move to 1 more fit to music , the kick feels better here ^
00:24:917 - add 1 note for kick too ^
00:28:817 (28817|4,28967|5) - move left by 1 would fit the patternmoved snare on 4
00:30:617 (30617|2) - move to 1 , the kick felt good here too same place this kick 00:30:617 (30617|2,31067|2) -
00:31:217 - snare 1 note felt weird here , add 1 ? 1 note per instrument enough
00:32:717 (32717|1) - move to 1 - lol, y u touch my alt kick
00:33:917 (33917|1) - ^ lol
00:35:342 (35342|4) - no sound - got sound (refer from bms)
01:11:044 (71044|5) - move to 7 ? piano pitch moved
01:09:244 (69244|3) - should be here ? 01:09:281 - ~~can ignore if it causes inconsistency~~
01:11:494 (71494|2) - move left 1 - moved
02:31:814 (151814|1) - move left 1 no no no no no

~~not enough time to fix MX ... will edit later~~

Fixed:
HD : http://puu.sh/bp6Ys/6622e559bc.osu
MX : http://puu.sh/bqtTw/34b44b5204.osu

Leader

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Leader 2014-09-10T16:14:51+00:00

Updated

lindseyism

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lindseyism 2014-09-14T00:28:25+00:00

Ranking when?

Rumia-

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Rumia- 2014-09-30T02:47:25+00:00

talked with expew about the diffs and it is safely to go ! piano'd!

Leader

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Leader 2014-10-02T13:49:42+00:00

Thank you!!

neonat

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neonat 2014-10-25T15:37:56+00:00

Beginner

00:32:267 (2,3) - you might want to consider unstacking these
00:48:467 (3,1) - 1.15x spacing, devianting quite far from your usual 1.1x imo
01:48:764 (1,1) - let's hope the 1500ms guideline thingy doesn't affect this

Normal

00:20:717 (2,3) - I find stacking these 2 weird
00:58:803 (3,4) - merge into a slider? Sound like the music plays fully through this part
01:44:564 (2,3) - the blanket is slightly off
02:14:864 (5,1) - ^

Extra

00:33:167 (8,1) - could you blanket these 2
00:41:267 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - compared to the other parts, this part seems to have inconsistent combos, this seemed more consistent 00:46:667 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3)
00:58:803 (4,5) - swap places? movement becomes more fluid in the rotating flow
01:09:094 (1,2) - would have preferred more distinction from the spacing of 01:08:944 (8,1)
02:22:064 (2) - wouldn't this be the new phrase so NC?
02:24:164 (4) - ^ cuz it sounds like 02:26:264 (1)
02:30:464 (8) - ^

Mao's Another

00:25:817 (1,2) - I don't know how to say it but this part bothered me in how they are placed
02:32:264 (7,1) - blanket these nicely

cheesiest's Hyper

00:22:967 (3) - the curve could be better really, it could even blanket 00:22:667 (2) better if you adjusted it
00:43:367 (5,6,7) - this slider going the other way but flow moves in the other direction kinda bothers me
00:55:653 (1,2) - could you space them so they don't touch, about how it looks honestly
01:42:014 (2,3,4) - this pattern doesn't really look structured
02:27:164 (5) - NC

cheesiest

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cheesiest 2014-11-06T15:01:11+00:00

neonat wrote:
cheesiest's Hyper

00:22:967 (3) - the curve could be better really, it could even blanket 00:22:667 (2) better if you adjusted it whatever
00:43:367 (5,6,7) - this slider going the other way but flow moves in the other direction kinda bothers me fix
00:55:653 (1,2) - could you space them so they don't touch, about how it looks honestly ok
01:42:014 (2,3,4) - this pattern doesn't really look structured fix
02:27:164 (5) - NC n

http://pastebin.com/Zzc1fxic

Mao

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Mao 2014-11-09T18:50:09+00:00

neonat

neonat wrote:
Mao's Another

00:25:817 (1,2) - I don't know how to say it but this part bothered me in how they are placed They play fine to me ._.
02:32:264 (7,1) - blanket these nicely I've tried it as good as I can and it's looking fine for me :/ I'll do further adjustments if I'm told to do so again

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DeletedUser_1574070 2014-11-17T09:18:53+00:00

Beginner

all fine but 02:44:489 (1) - this one wwww. good.

Normal

00:58:503 - a note is needed instead of 00:58:653 - imo

cheesiest

00:42:467 (1,2,3) - i understand ur trying symmetry here but spacing consistency is also needed here, so adjust just a little. about 0.05x?
00:50:117 (4,5,6,7,8) - try more arch'd shape. 180:255, 104:227, 60:159, 52:79 for 5,6,7,8
00:54:153 (5) - at least NC is needed.
00:55:053 (9) - same
01:24:544 (8) - NC
01:42:464 (3) - itll shape better if u make this out from sliders... around 77:90
01:54:464 (3) - 436:337 for the whitedot in the slider and the end 460:305
02:20:414 (2) - NC
02:28:814 (2) - NC. same here 02:30:914 (2) -

Mao

00:58:503 (3,4) - shape should be same for consistency imo.
01:10:294 (1) - it doesnt work good imo... try ctrl+G this 01:09:844 (4,5) -
02:10:364 (1,2) - i think being same axis is better. rotate 8'
others are fine. great

Extra

00:58:653 (3,4,5,6) - NC and i think more jump is needed. can u make distancerate higher?
how about this plot? 02:09:464 (3,4) - move this 456:288 / 02:09:764 (1) - move this 235:359 and ctrl+G
02:34:064 (5,6) - spacing should be same with this 02:34:364 (7,8) - imo

gowww

00:58:503 (4) - drastic jump came out so NC
01:07:294 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - mm this one. ofc advanced players can read this pattern but its someway confusing. try zig-zag pattern to make this 01:07:594 (4,5,6) - . i mean just discernable. it might solve the problem.
01:24:844 (6) - ctrl+G and rotate 180' with sectioncentre. this overlap fits more, what is more, it flows good imo.
02:09:764 (1,2) - shape should be same imo
02:36:614 (9) - stacking should be begun with here. and ofc NC should.

GOODLUCK.

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Leader 2014-11-19T15:16:35+00:00

Fixed most of the stuff you pointed out in my diffs, thanks!

Nyxa

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Nyxa 2014-11-21T15:08:56+00:00

Beginner01:26:794 (3) - Due to the chimes in the background here, wouldn't it be better to make this into 2 circles to accentuate those?
02:30:764 (4) - This rhythm feels a little off, I think a return 1/1 on the red tick would play and sound better - something like this
02:44:489 (1) - This doesn't really add to the map, it feels more like something intended as a joke than anything else - goes for every diff

Normal00:26:417 (2) - Is there a reason for this bezier slider? I mean, if you're trying to accentuate the glitchy sound in the background, maybe it'd be good to turn 00:25:967 (1) - into a similar bezier as well?
00:45:617 (3) - I think this would look better as a bezier slider
01:58:364 (1,2,3,4) - Are these antijumps really okay for a Normal?
02:16:364 (3) - This slider looks pretty sloppy and rushed, try making it blanket (4) better at least

cheesiest's Hyper00:22:067 - Any reason why you ignored the downbeat here?
00:34:067 (2) - This would look way better if it were curved towards the center like the previous slider
00:46:367 (5) - Considering your previous patterns, wouldn't this look more fitting if it were angled like this?
00:50:117 (4,5,6,7,8) - Maybe curve this a little for aesthetics like this?
01:42:014 (2,3,4) - This pattern looks a bit odd, is there a reason why you stray from the previous blanketing here?
02:15:164 (1,2) - This NC feels misleading. Why not add it on (2) instead?

Very very good diff, I'm impressed.

Mao's Another00:59:103 (1) - Eh I get the intention here but wouldn't this play more smoothly if it looked like this? That might subtract from the aesthetics though so I'm not sure, but, in my opinion, playability -> aesthetics, by a small margin.
01:06:094 (6,1) - The spacing between these feels a bit awkward, why not end the singletap section with a triangle like this?
01:06:394 (1,2) - Eh maybe you could ctrl G (1) and move (2) to either x182 y336 or x187 y281. I found the former to work better.
01:28:894 (1) - Probably personal preference but wouldn't this look smoother?
01:43:964 (1,2) - Considering all of the other blankety/symmetrical goodness in the map this pattern feels rather out of place, like it didn't come out as intended.
02:25:214 (5,6) - Ctrl + G (5) and then place (6) at x190 y216? Fit the music way better in my opinion

Super nazi stuff:
00:19:217 (5) - This stack is just sliiightly off
00:21:317 (3) - ^
00:22:967 (3) - ^
00:25:367 (3) - ^
00:30:617 (3,4) - ^
00:44:567 (1) - ^
01:42:464 (3) - ^
01:43:964 (1) - ^
01:57:614 (2) - ^
00:31:217 (5) - Blankets better at x167 y137
02:04:814 (2) - ^ at x151 y135

Extra00:54:453 (5) - This slider is a bit counter-intuitive
01:31:744 (6,7) - Wouldn't these look better if they had a slight curve to them?
01:57:464 (4,5) - Eh I feel like this would play better as a slider, especially considering that spaced triple -> stack patterns rarely play well
02:11:264 (3,4,5,6) - This stream looks a bit sloppy
02:27:764 (5,6,7) - Why not stack (5,6) instead of (6,7) to accentuate the scratch in the song?

gowww's Extra00:22:367 (1,2) - You ignore a pretty strong and pronounced beat between these two notes, it's very misleading
00:22:367 (1,2,3) - Anti-jumps don't really fit here
00:31:367 (1,2,3) - ^ on both accounts
00:30:617 (2,3) - Ctrl + G?
00:48:767 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This pattern plays really badly, those stacks aren't very enjoyable and it doesn't really feel like they carry or accentuate the music in any way
00:59:103 (1) - Very nice slider.
01:09:994 (1,2) - There's a crescendo in the piano here, why would you stack these?
02:11:264 (8,9,10) - I know that you'll want to keep this blanketed, so instead of spacing these out why don't you remove a repeat from 02:10:814 (7) - and add a circle on the red tick instead? Else the triple feels too close and the player will probably overshoot it with the cursor. Something like this would look(and play) pretty nice in my opinion.
02:32:264 (5,6) - A stack doesn't feel very fitting here
02:36:839 (1,1,1,1) - This is the only diff that did this ending right

Interesting diff.

Hope this helps.

Leader

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Leader 2014-11-22T18:45:12+00:00

Tess

Tess wrote:
Beginner01:26:794 (3) - Due to the chimes in the background here, wouldn't it be better to make this into 2 circles to accentuate those? I don't see a big difference here
02:30:764 (4) - This rhythm feels a little off, I think a return 1/1 on the red tick would play and sound better - something like this Mhm, I'll see..
02:44:489 (1) - This doesn't really add to the map, it feels more like something intended as a joke than anything else - goes for every diff That's the point!

Normal00:26:417 (2) - Is there a reason for this bezier slider? I mean, if you're trying to accentuate the glitchy sound in the background, maybe it'd be good to turn 00:25:967 (1) - into a similar bezier as well? Just aesthetic.
00:45:617 (3) - I think this would look better as a bezier slider Seems fine as curved too
01:58:364 (1,2,3,4) - Are these antijumps really okay for a Normal? YESSS

Extra00:54:453 (5) - This slider is a bit counter-intuitive What do you mean?
01:31:744 (6,7) - Wouldn't these look better if they had a slight curve to them? Nah
02:11:264 (3,4,5,6) - This stream looks a bit sloppy Seems like the others to me

Hope this helps.

Thanks!

Mao

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Mao 2014-11-22T18:50:59+00:00

Tess

Tess wrote:
Mao's Another01:06:094 (6,1) - The spacing between these feels a bit awkward, why not end the singletap section with a triangle like this? I still don't really know what to do with this. I think it plays okay but the jump is needed for the emphasis so I can't do it like this.
01:06:394 (1,2) - Eh maybe you could ctrl G (1) and move (2) to either x182 y336 or x187 y281. I found the former to work better. Connected to the one above
01:43:964 (1,2) - Considering all of the other blankety/symmetrical goodness in the map this pattern feels rather out of place, like it didn't come out as intended. I like it, fits the atmosphere well imo :<
02:25:214 (5,6) - Ctrl + G (5) and then place (6) at x190 y216? Fit the music way better in my opinion DS would turn out to big for my taste :/

Fixed everything else ~~stacks ;_;~~ Thanks!

Code

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Nwolf

2,607 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2014-12-30T11:52:14+00:00

woof

[Spread]

Just compare Oni and Muzukashii. ~~I will go and get confirmation if the spread needs work or if it hardly matters since GDs and Muzu/Oni only (aka no Futsuu). If it does matter the Oni has to be simplified a bit more.~~

[~~baka~~Dain's Muzukashii]

Flexible volume please ;w; Look at Firce's diff for example, I really can't stand 01:10:294 - being as loud as kiai

00:50:717 (140) - Change to kat to make the big note coming up a bit more playable. Also fits sound better imo
00:50:853 - to 00:59:253 - Could fit at least 1 2/1 break since the song is calming down again.^
01:10:894 (38,39,41) - Delete too to have a few 3/1 breaks (screw 555 ;w;)
02:00:464 (84) - Delete to give a break before kiai.

01:03:994 - 01:10:294 - compare this with 01:41:564 - 02:19:964 - . This... needs a little bit of work. (also the triplets in the kiai could be more consistent). The kiai could also be made slightly harder to close up the gap between Muzu and Oni better.

[Firce's diffs]

01:10:294 - Why isn't this 3/4? Since the main beat is seen on the taiko bar it looks quite weird if it's still 4/4

[Firce777's Oni]

Uncheck widescreen support
00:36:167 - idk if kiai really is appropriate here
01:41:564 - ^

I love this diff, there hardly is anything to mod for me

02:09:764 (240,241,242,243,244,245) - Needs a different pattern since a 1/1 break is kinda necessary here. Refer to spread issues and the section below.
02:44:489 (1) - idk if it's that necessary to have it.

EDIT: Sadly this has to be nerfed a bit to be closer to Muzukashii (everything is deletion except noted differently)

00:26:042 (44,49,56) -
00:35:042 (100) - 00:35:492 (105) - 00:36:092 (112) -
00:37:667 (126) - 00:39:767 (144) - 00:43:967 (181) - (if you find alternatives for deletions in this part, do them instead if you want)
00:53:103 (252) - 00:55:503 (268) - 00:57:903 (284) -
01:03:994 - to 01:10:294 - looks nearly the same as Inner Oni.
01:53:264 (79,80) - Change 79 to kat and delete 80 (follows melody or sth \:D/)
01:58:064 (118,119) - ^ (this time to give rest before streamier section)

[Firce777's Inner Oni]

kiai blahblah

00:35:867 (131,132,133,134) - This plays so bad omg why don't you just make this 1/4, it's pretty much the hardest pattern/the only hard pattern in the whole map
01:41:269 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - And here you want people to kill you again right
01:11:044 - This SV is unrankable. Change it to .75 or sth but whatever you do, avoid overlap. This diff will not be ranked until this is fixed.
02:44:489 (1) - ;___________________________________________;

EDIT: Added more to Oni-mod

The diffs themselves are really great and consistent and... stuff

Dainesl

898 posts

Joined May 2012

Dainesl 2015-01-02T21:14:38+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
woof

[Spread]

Just compare Oni and Muzukashii. ~~I will go and get confirmation if the spread needs work or if it hardly matters since GDs and Muzu/Oni only (aka no Futsuu). If it does matter the Oni has to be simplified a bit more.~~

[~~baka~~Dain's Muzukashii]

Flexible volume please ;w; Look at Firce's diff for example, I really can't stand 01:10:294 - being as loud as kiai Altered the volume of pretty much every single timing section so that it works better with the song. if only Leader actually updated my Muzu

00:50:717 (140) - Change to kat to make the big note coming up a bit more playable. Also fits sound better imo sure, for playability's sake anyways.
00:50:853 - to 00:59:253 - Could fit at least 1 2/1 break since the song is calming down again.^ I put 3 in so that it's consistent within the song; I think it works better this way too since, as you said, the song calms down a bit.
01:10:894 (38,39,41) - Delete too to have a few 3/1 breaks (screw 555 ;w;) 555 was already ded with these suggestions, of course I'll put these in for accommodating my new design (see below)
02:00:464 (84) - Delete to give a break before kiai. Sure. Impact be damned in the previous version, not so much now

01:03:994 - 01:10:294 - compare this with 01:41:564 - 02:19:964 - . This... needs a little bit of work. (also the triplets in the kiai could be more consistent). The kiai could also be made slightly harder to close up the gap between Muzu and Oni better. I actually reworked the entire map a bit, so now it's a bunch harder with the triplets but the design is a little bit more spacious to accommodate.

The diffs themselves are really great and consistent and... stuff

thankies for the mod :3

New Muzukashii (pls update ;_;)

Hinsvar

osu! Alumni

3,804 posts

Joined December 2011

Hinsvar 2015-01-22T14:18:21+00:00

\o/

*Bolded = Unrankable or very, very strongly suggested; red = Highly suggested or questionable (still weaker than the bolded ones); black = Minor suggestions/rants; blue = Notes/advices to avoid/fix repeated problems. Also note that hitsound suggestions on a diff may apply on similar parts of the song and the other diffs of the mapset.

>Beginner

00:52:653 (3,1) - From how this pattern looks, are you trying to blanket these two? If yes, you should move 00:53:253 (1) to (306,12) so it'll look neater. It's unnecessary to change this, though.
01:31:294 (3,1) - What's with this spacing inconsistency? It's small but still noticeable.
01:43:664 (1,2) - Shouldn't you swap the NC here, since a new measure only begins at the start of (2)? You did things like this at 01:53:264 (4,1), and pretty much everything after that anyway.
01:46:064 (1,2) - ^
For the kiai time, is a finish every measure... not too much? I mean, the finishes at the beginning of every even-numbered measures (like 02:01:964 and 02:04:364) are pretty much emphasizing nothing, and are also quite annoying since a finish every measure means it's pretty rapid in speed. Consider only adding a finish every two measures instead of one.

>Normal

00:34:367 (2,3,4) - Don't you think the spacing looks a bit odd here? Make the spacing between (2,3) smaller.
01:18:094 (1,2,3,4,5) - Why are you suddenly going with 0.7x DS here?
01:51:764 (2,3) - 0,89x?
01:58:364 (1,2,3,4) - Hold on. Anti-jumps? Seriously? For players that can play Hard diffs at least, this will be easy, but it can still be tricky to most typical Normal players. Consider using sliders or just make the spacing consistent with the rest of the map.

>cheesiest's Hyper

00:50:417 (6,7,8) - Try to make them a little more curved like this for a better flow to 00:50:853 (1)

>gowww's Extra

00:27:617 (3,4,5) - The stacking here is looking weird when played. Instead of a complete stack, how about giving them a very small distance between each other to make a pseudo-stack?
01:39:994 - I know why are you placing a kiai time here... but is it really necessary? It's distracting and inconsistent from the entire mapset. Consider to remove the kiai.

The other diffs should have no problems.

Poke me once you're done with this mod.

Last edited by Hinsvar 2015-01-22T15:02:17+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Leader

osu! Alumni

1,849 posts

Joined January 2011

Topic Starter

Leader 2015-01-22T14:48:34+00:00

Fixed everything (gowww's too), waiting for cheesiest.

cheesiest

721 posts

Joined September 2009

cheesiest 2015-01-23T22:46:22+00:00

applied in a way

map

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Hinsvar

osu! Alumni

3,804 posts

Joined December 2011

Hinsvar 2015-01-24T14:24:02+00:00

Okay then, enjoy!

Firce777

Elite Mapper

530 posts

Joined February 2010

Firce777 2015-01-26T16:40:57+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
woof

[Firce's diffs]

01:10:294 - Why isn't this 3/4? Since the main beat is seen on the taiko bar it looks quite weird if it's still 4/4 fixed

[Firce777's Oni]

Uncheck widescreen support fixed
00:36:167 - idk if kiai really is appropriate here
01:41:564 - ^

I love this diff, there hardly is anything to mod for me

02:09:764 (240,241,242,243,244,245) - Needs a different pattern since a 1/1 break is kinda necessary here. Refer to spread issues and the section below. ok
02:44:489 (1) - idk if it's that necessary to have it. keep it~

EDIT: Sadly this has to be nerfed a bit to be closer to Muzukashii (everything is deletion except noted differently)

00:26:042 (44,49,56) -
00:35:042 (100) - 00:35:492 (105) - 00:36:092 (112) -
00:37:667 (126) - 00:39:767 (144) - 00:43:967 (181) - (if you find alternatives for deletions in this part, do them instead if you want)
00:53:103 (252) - 00:55:503 (268) - 00:57:903 (284) -
01:03:994 - to 01:10:294 - looks nearly the same as Inner Oni. although looks same as inner oni but it's totally different
01:53:264 (79,80) - Change 79 to kat and delete 80 (follows melody or sth \:D/) changed 79 and keep 80
01:58:064 (118,119) - ^ (this time to give rest before streamier section)

[Firce777's Inner Oni]

kiai blahblah

00:35:867 (131,132,133,134) - This plays so bad omg why don't you just make this 1/4, it's pretty much the hardest pattern/the only hard pattern in the whole map it's really fine for those skilled players, so i decided to keep it
01:41:269 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - And here you want people to kill you again right ~~yeah~~
01:11:044 - This SV is unrankable. Change it to .75 or sth but whatever you do, avoid overlap. This diff will not be ranked until this is fixed. fixed
02:44:489 (1) - ;___________________________________________; \:D/

EDIT: Added more to Oni-mod

The diffs themselves are really great and consistent and... stuff

thx for mod~

oni

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Tags:of fighters bof2008 cheesiest Dainesl firce777 gowww ExPew Mao
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Secretpipe

3,316 posts

Joined December 2012

Secretpipe 2015-01-26T20:25:36+00:00

Wanna glance at this when it's bubbled!

Arrival

1,418 posts

Joined June 2012

Arrival 2015-01-28T19:43:59+00:00

Hi, quick taiko mod here !

[Backfire's Oni]
00:40:367 (133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149) -
You changed the structure of your map here, and the hitsounds don't really fit with the music imo : http://puu.sh/f9Cp3/3d95d219de.jpg. Just look at the placement of the kats , not at the triplets.

01:18:994 (70,71,72) -
I don't really understand this triplet.. Is it just to overmap or am I missing something ? I suggest - if you really want to keep it - to put a kat on these both circles 01:19:144 (72,79) -, which could make a good rhythm and make a "transition" to the next part more "kat-heavy".

01:23:944 (96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103) - Simple suggestion here : What about making it like this ? http://puu.sh/f9F8L/470d9cdbd5.jpg. It fits better imo.

02:02:414 (150,167) - What about changing these two to kats ? I feel like the rhythm is richer.

Well Leader asked me for this diff in particular, so I'm not continuing. But feel free to ask me to mod the other taiko diffs too !

Backfire

3,204 posts

Joined February 2010

Backfire 2015-01-28T22:35:02+00:00

Arrival wrote:
Hi, quick taiko mod here !

[Backfire's Oni]
1. Did something similar.
2. I put the triplet somewhere else in there instead, it is to add a little flair/overmap/whatever you wanna call it.
3. Sure.
4. No thanks.

Overall, good suggestions, thanks

http://puu.sh/fa8Pj/12f9d8a2b3.txt fixed diff

Nwolf

2,607 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2015-01-29T20:09:39+00:00

Just so it won't surprise anybody after I mod Backfire's diff in the next few days:

Firce's Inner Oni:

I refuse to rank 01:39:994 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - remove this, it doesn't add anything positive to the map and is plain unnecessary
I refuse to rank ninja notes too btw

Also, 01:10:894 - now it overlaps 01:15:694 - here

just saying

Last edited by Nwolf 2015-01-29T21:10:15+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Dainesl

898 posts

Joined May 2012

Dainesl 2015-01-29T20:11:17+00:00

Nwolf's right, this plays awfully.

If it played well, it still wouldn't fit the pacing of the song since this is like the quietest part of the song, with the most extreme pattern in the map.

If it fitted the pacing of the song, you still ruined the most important aspect of a map; playability.

Firce777

Elite Mapper

530 posts

Joined February 2010

Firce777 2015-01-30T12:13:08+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
Just so it won't surprise anybody after I mod Backfire's diff in the next few days:

Firce's Inner Oni:

I refuse to rank 01:39:994 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - remove this, it doesn't add anything positive to the map and is plain unnecessary
I refuse to rank ninja notes too btw

Also, 01:10:894 - now it overlaps 01:15:694 - here

just saying

ok all fixed

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256,192,141464,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,141614,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,141764,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,141914,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,142064,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,142139,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,142214,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,142514,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,142814,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,143339,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,146414,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,146564,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,146864,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,147014,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,147314,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,147614,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,148214,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,148664,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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ExPew

Elite Mapper

1,220 posts

Joined January 2011

ExPew 2015-01-31T08:16:44+00:00

sorry im going to nerf my gd cause difficult gap with 2star different

Mao

Elite Mapper II

2,963 posts

Joined December 2012

Mao 2015-02-01T15:55:59+00:00

Oh wow I didn't even notice the standard icon, gogo /o/

Kunieda

818 posts

Joined March 2012

Kunieda 2015-02-20T06:19:55+00:00

as requested
from burrito booth

general :

[backfire's oni]
00:25:967 (38,39,40) - k ,follow rhythm
00:26:417 (42,43,44) - ^
00:34:967 (89,90,91) - ^
00:35:417 (93,94,95) - ^
00:40:142 (131) - k
00:44:267 (163,164,165) - change to kdk
00:50:567 (209) - ^this too
02:09:989 (213) - k?

good luck

Backfire

3,204 posts

Joined February 2010

Backfire 2015-02-21T01:55:21+00:00

Kunieda wrote:
as requested
from burrito booth

mods

good luck

No to everything. Sorry. It is kept simple, I was also mapping the different parts of the song that you seemed to think I was. No offense.

ExPew

Elite Mapper

1,220 posts

Joined January 2011

ExPew 2015-02-21T02:40:42+00:00

nerfed mania diff - http://puu.sh/g5Rcf/a27da00073.rar

and new diff name

HD - Lv. 17
MX - Lv. 32

Nwolf

2,607 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2015-02-21T15:54:31+00:00

[Dain's Muzukashii]

Reconsider kiai placement. It's inconsistent with every other taiko diff, might want to use those instead. Current kiai could have slightly denser 1/2 too so it's more different from other parts of the map

[Backfire's Oni]

Since this Oni is there as bridge between Muzukashii and Firce's diffs some parts need to be nerved more

00:36:167 - to 00:59:253 - is pretty dense non-stop 1/2. Try to limit it to a length of 4 bars (big white ticks).
01:38:494 (1,2) - Delete those since the sound they are following are snapped pretty far away.
01:51:164 - to 02:00:764 - Same as first suggestion

Dainesl

898 posts

Joined May 2012

Dainesl 2015-02-21T16:08:38+00:00

Nwolf: I'm not gonna change the Kiai Time placement as I believe this to be where emphasis is due, it's the "true" chorus of the song if you will. The previous bit is more of a build-up to that, so...yeah (and the first Kiai on the other diffs, way back near the beginning, I don't even know why that's a Kiai bit)

I did add more notes to the Kiai in general, and made it more consistent in terms of patterning. If it's still not enough for you, tell me and I shall check over it again.

New Muzukashii

ExPew

Elite Mapper

1,220 posts

Joined January 2011

ExPew 2015-02-22T09:32:36+00:00

wait why still 5.23?? did i give osu file for MX?

Akiyama Mizuki

2,710 posts

Joined March 2009

Akiyama Mizuki 2015-02-22T10:15:08+00:00

ExPew wrote:
wait why still 5.23?? did i give osu file for MX?

Leader wrote:
Pew's Lv. 32 - 7Key (4,78 stars, 1733 notes)

u baka m8

Backfire

3,204 posts

Joined February 2010

Backfire 2015-02-25T01:41:52+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
[Dain's Muzukashii]

Reconsider kiai placement. It's inconsistent with every other taiko diff, might want to use those instead. Current kiai could have slightly denser 1/2 too so it's more different from other parts of the map

[Backfire's Oni]

Since this Oni is there as bridge between Muzukashii and Firce's diffs some parts need to be nerved more

00:36:167 - to 00:59:253 - is pretty dense non-stop 1/2. Try to limit it to a length of 4 bars (big white ticks).
01:38:494 (1,2) - Delete those since the sound they are following are snapped pretty far away.
01:51:164 - to 02:00:764 - Same as first suggestion

I deleted the notes but i dont think it really matters about the 1/2. I made them slightly less dense but it's an oni. Oni players can handle a 1/2 stream. http://puu.sh/gbsez/ef4cb5f091.txt

Nwolf

2,607 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2015-02-25T18:28:15+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
Since this Oni is there as bridge between Muzukashii and Firce's diffs some parts need to be nerved more

00:46:967 - 00:59:253 -

01:51:164 - 02:00:764 -

EDIT: Also forgot to complain

[Firce's Inner Onion]

00:16:217 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - forgot to complain about this, complaiiiiiin complaiiiiiiiin plays bad, why, etc etc etc etc complaiiiiiiin

Backfire

3,204 posts

Joined February 2010

Backfire 2015-02-28T05:52:06+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
Nwolf wrote:
Since this Oni is there as bridge between Muzukashii and Firce's diffs some parts need to be nerved more
00:46:967 - 00:59:253 -

01:51:164 - 02:00:764 -

EDIT: Also forgot to complain

I'm not changing my map, there is no reason.

ExPew

Elite Mapper

1,220 posts

Joined January 2011

ExPew 2015-03-12T23:48:37+00:00

adding some note on HD and fix some pattern on MX

http://puu.sh/gxRiu/9eebab0f18.osu - Lv.17

http://puu.sh/gxQ5j/91f4c9d08b.osu - Lv.32

Harbyter

Beatmap Nominator

1,372 posts

Joined October 2011

Harbyter 2015-03-13T12:10:14+00:00

~~waiting update pew update before check~~

BN Check

[General]

suggest to put OD 9 ~ 8.7 in the lv 32 since there are lot of pattern with LN

Lv.17

Column-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-

Taking reference lv32 hitsounds too

00:04:217 (4217|0,6617|6,9017|2,10217|6,11417|0,12542|4) - add whistle

00:20:417 (20417|0) - suggest to change the keysound in hihat01 since there are any kicks here in the music

00:33:167 - suggest to add a note here ,same section like this 00:31:967 - and then add keysound ride01

00:41:717 (41717|0) - i think this keysound should be pc04 pitch is the same as here 00:42:167 (42167|2) - and different from this 00:42:467 (42467|6) - (fix in the Lv.32 too)

01:05:194 (65194|2,65269|1,65344|0) - suggest to make this pattern the same in the lv 32 for the pitch , feel wierd in col 3 2 1 xd

01:06:394 (66394|1,66544|2,66694|3) - CTRL+J always for pitch

01:16:444 (76444|3,76744|2) - since the pattern in this section are the same with the lv 32 too i suggest to put the same keysound here , switch to snare04?

01:17:044 (77044|4) - ^

01:17:644 (77644|0) - ghost note x.x

01:18:844 (78844|3,79144|4) - for those sound here suggest to switch the keysound in snare04 too

01:19:894 (79894|2) - missing keysound kick

01:22:294 (82294|0) - ^

01:22:444 (82444|3) - ghost note x,x

01:23:344 (83344|5) - for this sound suggest to change the keysound in kick

01:28:144 (88144|4) - suggest to change the keysound here too in kick

01:28:444 (88444|2) - reference with lv 32 snare04 but here in lv17 is hihat02 ,witch one? I think should be snare04

01:28:744 (88744|3) - this too ,for this sound snare04

01:29:644 (89644|0) - ghost note x.x

01:31:294 (91294|5,91294|3) - remove? lol i think is too much 4 notes xd

01:31:894 (91894|0) - add keysound kick

01:45:014 (105014|3,105164|6,105314|2,105464|5) - wrong keysound ,should be g02 g03 g04 g05

01:44:864 (104864|5) - even if this note is for that sound (don't know his name xd) ,i suggest to add the keysound g01 here

01:48:764 (108764|0) - add keysound kick

01:49:214 (109214|6) - add kick

01:49:664 (109664|4) - add snare03

01:49:964 (109964|4) - add kick

01:50:564 (110564|1) - remove??In the Lv32 there aren't three notes here ,if yes 01:50:564 (110564|0) - put the whistle here

01:58:814 (118814|2,119114|1) - mmm no bell sound for the whistle ,remove?

02:00:014 (120014|3,120314|2,120614|1) - same here

01:58:964 (118964|4,119564|2,120164|0) - bell sound are here ,put here those whistle?

02:05:264 (125264|1) - missing ride01?

02:07:364 (127364|1) - ^

02:20:114 (140114|5) - i'm note sure for this ,remove??Can't hear nothing here

Lv.32

Column-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-

00:31:967 (31967|4,32567|3,33167|1,33767|2,34367|4,34967|3,35567|1) - suggest to add whistle for those bell , like in the lv17

00:41:717 (41717|1) - this too ,pc04

01:06:544 (66544|4) - suggest to move in col 3 for pitch

01:06:994 (66994|2,67144|4,67294|6,67444|0) - since in this section next pattern is different from the lv17 i suggest to move those in col 1 3 5 7 for pitch

01:11:212 (71212|6) - should be here 01:11:194 - ?Different from the previous 1/16

01:18:394 (78394|1) - missing keysound kick

01:22:444 (82444|2) - ghost note x.x

01:27:394 (87394|2) - missing kick

01:29:644 (89644|5) - ghost note x.x

01:29:794 (89794|2) - change in kick?

01:31:894 - add a note here and the keysound kick

02:00:764 (120764|3) - missind ride01?

02:16:664 (136664|1,136814|4) - missing pi_sa02 and pi_sa03 ?

02:18:764 - maybe from here you didn't followed those pi_sa sound ,since you didn't put the 1/6 here 02:19:514 - ,so i ignore those pi_sa keysound here xd

02:20:114 (140114|1,140114|5) - i'm note sure for those note ,can't hear nothing , remove?

02:22:664 (142664|6) - i think this sound here shouldn't be snapped since it's like an ending sound

02:27:914 (147914|0,148214|1) - should be g06 and g07

02:28:964 (148964|6) - same here, suggest to remove

02:31:064 (151064|3) - ^

02:36:764 (156764|0,159014|6,161114|4,162164|2,164489|0) - add whistle

02:44:489 -

Orz

for this sound 4 notes are too much xDD try something like this??

@Notice : i don't know if in other mapset there are those keysound ,if not remembe to remove g08 hitsound since it is inused

ExPew

Elite Mapper

1,220 posts

Joined January 2011

ExPew 2015-03-28T04:04:23+00:00

which non reply or replied blue is fixed
which red reject

Harbyter wrote:
~~waiting update pew update before check~~

BN Check

[General]

suggest to put OD 9 ~ 8.7 in the lv 32 since there are lot of pattern with LN

Lv.17
Column-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-

Taking reference lv32 hitsounds too

00:04:217 (4217|0,6617|6,9017|2,10217|6,11417|0,12542|4) - add whistle

00:20:417 (20417|0) - suggest to change the keysound in hihat01 since there are any kicks here in the music - no, i prefer kick for it

00:33:167 - suggest to add a note here ,same section like this 00:31:967 - and then add keysound ride01 - different section, because no kick here, i bet

00:41:717 (41717|0) - i think this keysound should be pc04 pitch is the same as here 00:42:167 (42167|2) - and different from this 00:42:467 (42467|6) - (fix in the Lv.32 too)

01:05:194 (65194|2,65269|1,65344|0) - suggest to make this pattern the same in the lv 32 for the pitch , feel wierd in col 3 2 1 xd

01:06:394 (66394|1,66544|2,66694|3) - CTRL+J always for pitch

01:16:444 (76444|3,76744|2) - since the pattern in this section are the same with the lv 32 too i suggest to put the same keysound here , switch to snare04?

01:17:044 (77044|4) - ^ this one not applied

01:17:644 (77644|0) - ghost note x.x -

01:18:844 (78844|3,79144|4) - for those sound here suggest to switch the keysound in snare04 too

01:19:894 (79894|2) - missing keysound kick non-hitsounded is for piano sounds,

01:22:294 (82294|0) - ^ same here, bell sound.

01:22:444 (82444|3) - ghost note x,x

01:23:344 (83344|5) - for this sound suggest to change the keysound in kick lol nope, the kick rhythm looks fine for it

01:28:144 (88144|4) - suggest to change the keysound here too in kick ^

01:28:444 (88444|2) - reference with lv 32 snare04 but here in lv17 is hihat02 ,witch one? I think should be snare04

01:28:744 (88744|3) - this too ,for this sound snare04

01:29:644 (89644|0) - ghost note x.x

01:31:294 (91294|5,91294|3) - remove? lol i think is too much 4 notes xd

01:31:894 (91894|0) - add keysound kick no kick sound in BGM

01:45:014 (105014|3,105164|6,105314|2,105464|5) - wrong keysound ,should be g02 g03 g04 g05 ayy fixed

01:44:864 (104864|5) - even if this note is for that sound (don't know his name xd) ,i suggest to add the keysound g01 here - no they have own specifics instrument (obviously Strings )

01:48:764 (108764|0) - add keysound kick i don't want interrupt harp sound with a kick. looks terrible when you're ignoring 1 harp sound because of kick ( yes i can ignore kick sound here )

01:49:214 (109214|6) - add kick ^

01:49:664 (109664|4) - add snare03 ^

01:49:964 (109964|4) - add kick ^

01:50:564 (110564|1) - remove??In the Lv32 there aren't three notes here ,if yes 01:50:564 (110564|0) - put the whistle here - i ignore bell sound on LV.32

01:58:814 (118814|2,119114|1) - mmm no bell sound for the whistle ,remove?

02:00:014 (120014|3,120314|2,120614|1) - same here it's actually another ride keysounds very light sound, but i removed previous part

01:58:964 (118964|4,119564|2,120164|0) - bell sound are here ,put here those whistle? they're strings, not bell.

02:05:264 (125264|1) - missing ride01? - yes, ignored the sound

02:07:364 (127364|1) - ^ ^

02:20:114 (140114|5) - i'm note sure for this ,remove??Can't hear nothing here

Lv.32
Column-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-

00:31:967 (31967|4,32567|3,33167|1,33767|2,34367|4,34967|3,35567|1) - suggest to add whistle for those bell , like in the lv17

00:41:717 (41717|1) - this too ,pc04

01:06:544 (66544|4) - suggest to move in col 3 for pitch

01:06:994 (66994|2,67144|4,67294|6,67444|0) - since in this section next pattern is different from the lv17 i suggest to move those in col 1 3 5 7 for pitch

01:11:212 (71212|6) - should be here 01:11:194 - ?Different from the previous 1/16 - i fixed on Lv17...it should be 1/16 you can refer this img from rumia mod i got posted img from original BMS file p/3360970

01:18:394 (78394|1) - missing keysound kick

01:22:444 (82444|2) - ghost note x.x

01:27:394 (87394|2) - missing kick

01:29:644 (89644|5) - ghost note x.x

01:29:794 (89794|2) - change in kick? nope,

01:31:894 - add a note here and the keysound kick ^

02:00:764 (120764|3) - missind ride01? actually not a ride keysounds i want

02:16:664 (136664|1,136814|4) - missing pi_sa02 and pi_sa03 ? many thanks

02:18:764 - maybe from here you didn't followed those pi_sa sound ,since you didn't put the 1/6 here 02:19:514 - ,so i ignore those pi_sa keysound here xd yes, i dropped the pi_sa(xylophone) sound for changing harp instruments as non-hitsounds for final chorus measure line-

02:20:114 (140114|1,140114|5) - i'm note sure for those note ,can't hear nothing , remove? - actually it is, in BMS keysounds they have tons of kicks light/strong bla bla. considering as no sound in BGM i deleted

02:22:664 (142664|6) - i think this sound here shouldn't be snapped since it's like an ending sound - i feel no sound here, removed

02:27:914 (147914|0,148214|1) - should be g06 and g07 both can used lolol only different g06 too short but here i refer 100% from BMS

02:28:964 (148964|6) - same here, suggest to remove

02:31:064 (151064|3) - ^

02:36:764 (156764|0,159014|6,161114|4,162164|2,164489|0) - add whistle already?

02:44:489 - Orz

for this sound 4 notes are too much xDD try something like this?? fixed hahahhaa

@Notice : i don't know if in other mapset there are those keysound ,if not remembe to remove g08 hitsound since it is inused

currently g08 used , not removed- http://puu.sh/gSC45/7fc14fccb3.png

done - http://puu.sh/gSCcZ/f737a86a7f.rar

Leader

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Topic Starter

Leader 2015-03-29T15:11:00+00:00

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Harbyter

Beatmap Nominator

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Harbyter 2015-03-29T17:19:45+00:00

rechecked , seems all fine

here my pianooooo xd

Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2015-06-22T16:15:21+00:00

Hi, here comes a taiko mod as requested.

[Dain's Muzukashii]

00:44:267 - consider adding k here ? This could reflect the music nicely imo.
01:50:864 (41) - k would be better for both the snare and the increase in the pitch of music.
02:10:664 (138,139,152,153) - It would be better to unify the two patterns since the music is very similar.

[Backfire's Oni]

00:37:817 (113) - since the pitch here becomes higher, k would reflect the rhythm nicely. This could result in a good coherence with 00:39:917 (128) - as well.
00:44:417 (163) - maybe k to fit the snare there ?
00:50:417 (204) - similar to ^ , k would be better imo.
01:39:994 (1) - consider deleting this slider ? It sounds a bit strange because of the lack of instrumental support.
01:58:364 (112) - you may add finish here to fit the stressed sound.
02:00:764 (133) - maybe D as you did at 01:41:564 (2) - for pattern consistency ?
02:10:364 (213) - same as 01:58:364 (112) -

[Firce777's Oni]

00:59:103 (290,291) - consider deleting 00:59:253 (291) - and change 00:59:103 (290) - to D instead ? This could match the stressed sound more accurately.
01:06:394 (306,307,308) - d k d would be better since 01:06:394 (306,307) - has the same pitch as 01:05:944 (304,305) -
02:00:764 (146) - maybe K as you did at 01:41:564 (1) - for pattern consistency ?
02:10:364 (244) - same as ^

[Firce777's Inner Oni]

01:06:394 (347,348,349) - similar to Oni, it would be better to change the pattern to k k d if you want to follow the pitch changes closely.
01:10:294 (373) - overlapping occurs here. It is strongly recommended to add a timing point at 01:11:044 - with 0.5x SV and change the one at 01:10:294 - with 0.75x SV in order to have a better view.
02:20:414 (471) - maybe d as you did at 02:21:014 (476,480,482) - ? It would sound more consistent with the drum kicks imo.
02:22:514 (491) - same as ^
02:28:814 (537) and 02:30:914 (554) - ^

You may call me back after that~

Dainesl

898 posts

Joined May 2012

Dainesl 2015-06-22T16:37:49+00:00

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
Hi, here comes a taiko mod as requested.

[Dain's Muzukashii]
00:44:267 - consider adding k here ? This could reflect the music nicely imo. I thought of adding a don instead because I wanted to keep the kats to the sudden bursts of discord, but then I decided to put a kat as you suggested because the pitch is relatively high here and putting a don sounds...odd
01:50:864 (41) - k would be better for both the snare and the increase in the pitch of music. Done, but also to keep consistency with the Kiai's big kat.
02:10:664 (138,139,152,153) - It would be better to unify the two patterns since the music is very similar. Okay, done.

Thanks for the mod.

Muzukashii

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Backfire

3,204 posts

Joined February 2010

Backfire 2015-06-22T20:49:02+00:00

Applied everything but the slider. Slider is mostly fine. There's nothing else to put there and the weird glitch-y sounds work with it when you play. http://puu.sh/iySJC/5052318b70.txt

Nwolf

2,607 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2015-06-22T20:52:10+00:00

one thing for Firce's Inner Oni that disturbed me on a random play except the SV overlap that Nardo noted

01:15:694 - should have sth like 0.75 SV because the part is way more "intense" (idk if that's the right word here) than 01:10:294 - and tbh I even think it's more intense and stronger than 01:03:994 - so 0.75 at 01:15 wouldn't be bad

Firce777

Elite Mapper

530 posts

Joined February 2010

Firce777 2015-06-23T07:16:29+00:00

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
Hi, here comes a taiko mod as requested.
[Firce777's Oni]
00:59:103 (290,291) - consider deleting 00:59:253 (291) - and change 00:59:103 (290) - to D instead ? This could match the stressed sound more accurately. ok~
01:06:394 (306,307,308) - d k d would be better since 01:06:394 (306,307) - has the same pitch as 01:05:944 (304,305) - ok~
02:00:764 (146) - maybe K as you did at 01:41:564 (1) - for pattern consistency ? ok~
02:10:364 (244) - same as ^
i think keep k here is better

[Firce777's Inner Oni]
01:06:394 (347,348,349) - similar to Oni, it would be better to change the pattern to k k d if you want to follow the pitch changes closely. ok~
01:10:294 (373) - overlapping occurs here. It is strongly recommended to add a timing point at 01:11:044 - with 0.5x SV and change the one at 01:10:294 - with 0.75x SV in order to have a better view. fixed~
02:20:414 (471) - maybe d as you did at 02:21:014 (476,480,482) - ? It would sound more consistent with the drum kicks imo. i changed some notes to d
02:22:514 (491) - same as ^
02:28:814 (537) and 02:30:914 (554) - ^
You may call me back after that~

Nwolf wrote:
one thing for Firce's Inner Oni that disturbed me on a random play except the SV overlap that Nardo noted

01:15:694 - should have sth like 0.75 SV because the part is way more "intense" (idk if that's the right word here) than 01:10:294 - and tbh I even think it's more intense and stronger than 01:03:994 - so 0.75 at 01:15 wouldn't be bad ok now~

thanks for mod~
blah

oni

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Nardoxyribonucleic

osu! Alumni

3,009 posts

Joined May 2011

Nardoxyribonucleic 2015-06-23T17:52:28+00:00

A quick recheck here.

[Dain's Muzukashii]

00:44:267 (113) - According to your reply, you think that kat is better. But the note is don now ?_?
01:50:864 (41) - same as ^

[Firce777's Oni]

00:59:103 (290) - not a big don here like your Inner Oni ?

Dainesl

898 posts

Joined May 2012

Dainesl 2015-06-23T18:38:20+00:00

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
A quick recheck here.

[Dain's Muzukashii]
00:44:267 (113) - According to your reply, you think that kat is better. But the note is don now ?_?
01:50:864 (41) - same as ^

My bad, fixed both of them.

Muzu

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