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Exactly where is he trying to look town?DakeDekaane wrote:
Why are you trying to looking town RB?
? Can you rephrase that pleaseGuyInFreezer wrote:
Exactly where is he trying to look town?
He said that, in case you still didn't see it.Raging Bull wrote:
Why do you want to lynch town Dake?
And that does not look like he was attempting to create self-image.Irreversible wrote:
He said that, in case you still didn't see it.Raging Bull wrote:
Why do you want to lynch town Dake?
Noted.Raging Bull wrote:
Exact number I'm not sure. 10 ish.
Because I have a feeling that you're a lynchbait. (No offense)Raging Bull wrote:
I don't really like RVS and I want to give Irre a chance to explain himself first.
And how is asking my game count relevant?
Also missed this part.Raging Bull wrote:
I don't really like RVS and I want to give Irre a chance to explain himself first.
how come you defended RB here? it'd be better to let him defend himself IMOGuyInFreezer wrote:
Also I believe I'm not allowed to edit my post so double-post it is!Exactly where is he trying to look town?DakeDekaane wrote:
Why are you trying to looking town RB?
I like this post from Sephibro, but it's a really weak read orzSephibro wrote:
wowowo Irre are you fucking crazy? you just sent GIF on L-1, any mafia could lynch him with just 1 vote
Stupid move, unless you're mafia. Well it would still be stupid.
Unvote, vote Irreversible
on the other hand I feel this post is just mafia looking for an easy way to do something. vote: Raging BullyRaging Bull wrote:
Exact number I'm not sure. 10 ish.
Irre, why put him on L-1? That seems like a really stupid move. I'm more inclined to believe you are mafia right now since I really believe L-2 voters are mafia.
and then boom we found scum. exactly what we're trying to do.GuyInFreezer wrote:
Because the experience taught me to assume lynchbait = town until I get a better grasp/read on that person.
(His reaction to DD's vote on him is enough to label him as such. And its also the reason I asked him for his prev games.)
Also "normal scumhunting" against these kind of people will rarely work, because they are lynchbait for reasons. (Most of the time, epic flailing/overemotional/overreacting.)
So why am I defending him? Because I already can see how this game will flow if I don't intercept now. I want a better grasp of people. Especially with short timeline, it is incredibly easy for scums to push for mislynch on lynchbaits and I'm cutting off the setup now. The better way to read him is looking at the thought process of each of his action, which is exactly what I'm trying to do.
nope, I haven't \:D/GuyInFreezer wrote:
Also, tbh if you're calling me defending him at this point, you haven't seen my play yet.
Because I am town perhaps.DakeDekaane wrote:
Why are you trying to looking town RB?
If I would have done something, I would have voted for him already instead of giving him a reason to defend himself.pieguy1372 wrote:
on the other hand I feel this post is just mafia looking for an easy way to do something. vote: Raging BullyRaging Bull wrote:
Exact number I'm not sure. 10 ish.
Irre, why put him on L-1? That seems like a really stupid move. I'm more inclined to believe you are mafia right now since I really believe L-2 voters are mafia.
Because I'm lazy and making you post the link is much faster!Raging Bull wrote:
Here I guess. Although honestly, why the hell can't you look it up yourself? I already said it was on this forum.
And "can't defend himself" because he didn't even have a chance to post yet.
what do you mean with this? I actually care about lynching a vengeful, because if then he shoots another town we lose D1.pieguy1372 wrote:
town would have to be really careless to actually lynch the person scum sets a mislynch on, so it doesn't seem that risky to see as it plays out..
no meta yay.Sephibro wrote:
- Raging Bull: this guy just plays completely randomly on every match, this bothers me so much. Can't get any read on such plays
first off, you basically just admitted you weren't trying to do anythingRaging Bull wrote:
If I would have done something, I would have voted for him already instead of giving him a reason to defend himself.
wowowo Irre are you fucking crazy?
Stupid move, unless you're mafiaand then he voted him. Your post about the same thing just seemed really passive and I thought it was seriously off = = so I guess we could say gut feeling
doing something != necessarily wagoning him. What I meant was, you were trying to do anything to keep yourself from being called out from not doing anythingRaging Bull wrote:
Actually, why did you vote for me pieguy? Explain to me "easy way to do something" Because even though I believe he may be mafia, I didn't encourage anyone to vote for him. And why only quote my post? You could have done the same to Sephibro.
so you don't have anything to say about how your actions make it harder, not easier, for town to find mafia?GIF wrote:
@PG: well I'm still waiting for him to give me the link of his games so til I read them my stance will stay.
Why?Raging Bull wrote:
Not really what I meant, but I'm gonna stop here since I don't want a 1v1 again.
No, that isn't what I meant, don't put words in my mouth. I never said explicitly that I have done nothing. You said that it's just an easy way for mafia to do something (make him look scummy), but if that was my intention, I would have kept bugging everyone to vote for him. (to do something). I've also waited for you and Irre to be online for my answers. So I don't know where you got "I've done nothing" from.pieguy1372 wrote:
first off, you basically just admitted you weren't trying to do anythingRaging Bull wrote:
If I would have done something, I would have voted for him already instead of giving him a reason to defend himself.
second off, it was mostly in the tone of the two posts. For me Sephibro's post seemed legitimately ticked off that Irre put GIF at L - 1, mostly cause of thiswowowo Irre are you fucking crazy?Stupid move, unless you're mafiaand then he voted him. Your post about the same thing just seemed really passive and I thought it was seriously off = = so I guess we could say gut feelingdoing something != necessarily wagoning him. What I meant was, you were trying to do anything to keep yourself from being called out from not doing anythingRaging Bull wrote:
Actually, why did you vote for me pieguy? Explain to me "easy way to do something" Because even though I believe he may be mafia, I didn't encourage anyone to vote for him. And why only quote my post? You could have done the same to Sephibro.
Why do I have to keep saying this all the time. I was waiting for YOUR REPLY on why you put GIF on L-1 before I vote. So in case you didn't read the thread carefully because you see everyone start putting suspicion on me. WHY did you put GIF in L-1? and if that isn't clear, everyone also wants to know why you voted and put him on L-1.Irreversible wrote:
Raging Bull, if you think i'm mafia why don't you vote me then? This makes you scumish, since you're not scumhunting, so I've achieved my first read~
1v1s gives me headaches.DakeDekaane wrote:
Why?Raging Bull wrote:
Not really what I meant, but I'm gonna stop here since I don't want a 1v1 again.
His posts are trying to figure out YOUR alignment.Raging Bull wrote:
GIF is null. I have no idea what he's trying to do. Could be trying to defend me from being lynchbait but also an easy way for mafia to look townie by using me
XDDDD good counterexampleRB wrote:
And so basically what you're telling me is if I started swearing right now at you, would you think I'm legitimately mad? If you think I started posting a crap ton of smiley faces, would you think I'm legitimately happy? Sorry, but I don't believe that is a good reason to see why he's legitimately mad. Next time I'll just be extremely mad in some game when I'm mafia so you can get a town read on me.
fair enough, I just prefer to vote people as soon as I get a scumread to add even more pressureRB wrote:
Don't read into it too much. I actually like it if someone explains their reasoning before I vote. Mafia wouldn't want the other person to explain and get a chance to defend themselves for quick lynch if they think up some half ass intent to hammer reason.
Hint: It doesn't.pieguy1372 wrote:
so you don't have anything to say about how your actions make it harder, not easier, for town to find mafia?GIF wrote:
@PG: well I'm still waiting for him to give me the link of his games so til I read them my stance will stay.
Overall mafia expIrreversible wrote:
GIF, why would you want to know how many games RB played?
HiSakura wrote:
His posts are trying to figure out YOUR alignment.Raging Bull wrote:
GIF is null. I have no idea what he's trying to do. Could be trying to defend me from being lynchbait but also an easy way for mafia to look townie by using me
And you put one person on L-1?Irreversible wrote:
I just wanted to put pressure on him, and see how the others react.
explain why preventing something that might help us find mafia makes it easier to find mafia? IMO, what you did just denies town informationGIF wrote:
Hint: It doesn't.
Why cant I townhunt and PoE scum?Sephibro wrote:
Sakura didn't try to actively look for scum yet.
the last time someone said this to me they were mafiaGuyInFreezer wrote:
@pieguy
Learn to look a bit further.
dacrap, everyone besides Irre is null or better? certainly you have to have another readRaging Bull wrote:
pieguy reading too much into my posts. Perhaps town since he's trying to break me or so.
DD is null since his posts were practically all about me.
Irre is still my main suspect.
GIF is null. I have no idea what he's trying to do. Could be trying to defend me from being lynchbait but also an easy way for mafia to look townie by using me
Seph nulll but leaning torwards town.
Sakura is null.
I liked this post of yoursRaging Bull wrote:
Vote:Irreversible
Sorry but that doesn't really convince me how you only did it for pressure. You could have instead just keep asking him questions first to see if he would slip up. Not putting him on the chopping block. Also seems like you tried to scum paint me when pieguy and DD had reasonable suspicion on me.
Trusting each other as town is a common scum strategyGuyInFreezer wrote:
@Sephi: elaborate on me protecting Sakura.
This post smells scummy. Also, you haven't answered to my question on this post yet p/2594782.pieguy1372 wrote:
the last time someone said this to me they were mafia
scum found ggs
GuyInFreezer wrote:
Sakura, talk to me about RB.
I think he's town.
oooops missed it srySephibro wrote:
Also, you haven't answered to my question on this post yet p/2594782.
I wasn't really questioning your reads, just saying certainly there's another person besides Irre who you have to find suspicious. flailing much?RB wrote:
That's cool pieguy, question my reads while I try to read your re- oh yeah.
pieguy, having null-reads is far better than throwing town-reads, you can't argue about someone's reads if you haven't shared yours, may I know why are you focusing on RB?1. first off, I never said throwing town-reads is better. in fact I never said anything was better than anything else at all
yeah that's the flaw with this strategy. I haven't yet had it once where I can successfully question everyone by the deadline the most I could do was 4 people out of 12. > <GuyInFreezer wrote:
So when will be "enough" when we only have less than a day left?
Are all games here have short deadlines?generally yeah. besides the Matrix6 that Lilac is doing everything is max 1 week. personally I prefer 3-5 day deadlines (the last game I hosted had 4 day deadlines and it still got 74 pages of posts), it was so weird for me when I joined MS and everything was 2 weeks
So for someone without information, you won't declare someone as null? Cause that was my case why I put almost everyone null. What can you achieve from someone who has no information?pieguy1372 wrote:
2. why can't I? also, I don't like to declare someone as town/null/scum/etc. until I've questioned them enough.
that's why like half my reads were just gut feelingRaging Bull wrote:
So for someone without information, you won't declare someone as null? Cause that was my case why I put almost everyone null. What can you achieve from someone who has no information?pieguy1372 wrote:
2. why can't I? also, I don't like to declare someone as town/null/scum/etc. until I've questioned them enough.
According to their previous games, looks like DD never talks too much -which is really bad- while Sakura usually talks much more.Sephibro wrote:
I would like to hear more from DD and Sakura