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Touhou PyP IV (Game over - Mafia wins :>)
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Omg <3
I wanna try~
I wanna try~
I don't know shit about Touhou
I've never played a game of Mafia
/in
I've never played a game of Mafia
ok
- don't do anything stupid plz
/in
Well, have a read first: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide and http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... e_to_Mafia
That's not a suggestion, by the way. You really need to know the bare basics to play mafia
That's not a suggestion, by the way. You really need to know the bare basics to play mafia
in
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^ this, just a warningJinxy wrote:
Well, have a read first: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide and http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... e_to_Mafia
That's not a suggestion, by the way. You really need to know the bare basics to play mafia
It's fine if you know how to play ofc, but if not, I absolutely recommend reading it first :3
Kay, sign me up.
yeah, I've read all the basics and stuff already. just haven't played before
Also 12 players is optimal to start the game here I think.
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I'll cut the deadline by 24 hours (so 24 hours total), since a lot of people signed up already.
did u see NH's post regarding why it's bad to have over 12 players?
I think I'll spec this one, I'm in if you need a replacement.
DotA mafia pretty much sucked because 1/3 of its players got inactive. They also claimed being 'active' for the whole game, but it didn't turn out well anyways. 12 seems optimal on this forums.
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well I guess some people might not have viewed the thread yet. also I'm about to fall asleep any second now, so I can't start the game > <
I got an idea, I'll close signups, but I'll accept replacements till I start the game (and after too ofc). that way, if we get any inactives and/or people who view the thread after this, it'll work out anyway.
signups closed
game starts sometime up to 24 hrs from now
I got an idea, I'll close signups, but I'll accept replacements till I start the game (and after too ofc). that way, if we get any inactives and/or people who view the thread after this, it'll work out anyway.
signups closed
game starts sometime up to 24 hrs from now
noooo
Topic Starter
sign up as replacement plz, we need all the people we can get
You can pre-in for my game too if you think you're gonna be around by the time it starts /ShamlessAdvertisingbmin11 wrote:
noooo
Btw is this really pyp or upick.
Topic Starter
what's the difference o.o
it's: pick 3 characters -> I pick one of the 3 and create a role based on it -> that's the role you get.
afaik, we used PyP to describe this > <
it's: pick 3 characters -> I pick one of the 3 and create a role based on it -> that's the role you get.
afaik, we used PyP to describe this > <
upick = pick something (word, character, something) get a role based on it
pyp = you actually see the roles and pick one.
Here's an example of a pyp variation called pyp x/y: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=29453
I still like upick tho, so i don't mind.
pyp = you actually see the roles and pick one.
Here's an example of a pyp variation called pyp x/y: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=29453
I still like upick tho, so i don't mind.
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then this would be upick. 
it's just we historically always used PyP to describe these kinds of games, I didn't know it was actually called something else @_@
it's just we historically always used PyP to describe these kinds of games, I didn't know it was actually called something else @_@
BMin can have my spot if he wants. I'm lazy to play mafia while hosting anyway
I can replace if needed, a bit sad i didn't get in before.
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sending role PMs out now, confirm in thread plz ~
game starts when everyone's confirmed.
EDIT: all role PMs sent
game starts when everyone's confirmed.
EDIT: all role PMs sent
conf
Confirmed and my stomach hurts like hell.
confirmed and get well soon
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since I forgot to put this in the last post
Flandre...wake up, Flandre... please..
...seems she's not waking up...come on, Flandre!
*crying* no...it can't be...
Remilia entered the room.
...
well... um... *crying*
...MY SISTER HAS BEEN KILLED!! > <
*everyone shocked*
it has to be one of you. No one living here could do such a thing. As someone who controls fate, I'm able to sense it was one of you. Sakuya, seal all exits from the mansion. No one is leaving here till I avenge my sister's death. My maid has prepared enough rooms to accommodate all of you, not that all of you deserve this treatment anyway. Not even I can tell which one of you has done this, so I'm just going to leave you all to figure it out yourselves.
*runs off, crying*
*everyone wonders how someone like Flandre could possibly be murdered, even though she's supposed to be immortal. Oh well, stranger things have happened I guess...*
Flandre...wake up, Flandre... please..
...seems she's not waking up...come on, Flandre!
*crying* no...it can't be...
Remilia entered the room.
...
well... um... *crying*
...MY SISTER HAS BEEN KILLED!! > <
*everyone shocked*
it has to be one of you. No one living here could do such a thing. As someone who controls fate, I'm able to sense it was one of you. Sakuya, seal all exits from the mansion. No one is leaving here till I avenge my sister's death. My maid has prepared enough rooms to accommodate all of you, not that all of you deserve this treatment anyway. Not even I can tell which one of you has done this, so I'm just going to leave you all to figure it out yourselves.
*runs off, crying*
*everyone wonders how someone like Flandre could possibly be murdered, even though she's supposed to be immortal. Oh well, stranger things have happened I guess...*
It looks like the ability to destroy everything...
...just destroyed her. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
brb, changing avatar.
EDIT:
...just destroyed her. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
brb, changing avatar.
EDIT:
conf
Hi
Confirmed
Confirm.
sorryImlateIwasgoingtobedearlytonigh>.<confirmkkthx
Vote: Tanz
Tardy.
Tardy.
Topic Starter
still waiting for Kanye, Sakura and Kitsunemimi 0.0
Vote: Rantai
I bet you flipped a coin. much like you would flip scum. it's an obvious hint.
I bet you flipped a coin. much like you would flip scum. it's an obvious hint.
Or that he missed three other people being late as well maybe?
You know...?
You know...?
Unbeatable logic orz.
Tanz for mvp.
-- Actually no. I knew there were more players but he's making excuses.
Tanz for mvp.
-- Actually no. I knew there were more players but he's making excuses.
So are you.
Mmm?
Mmm?
Touche.
Though mine is an explanation in order to alleviate misunderstandings~
Though mine is an explanation in order to alleviate misunderstandings~
Unvote
Vote: Lilac
she tries to foment us, rantai, obv scum.
Vote: Lilac
she tries to foment us, rantai, obv scum.
Cunning.
It must be the shades.
It must be the shades.
Possible jealousy vote...? Heh, no matter.
So eager guys.
Confoim
[vote]Raging Bully[/vote]
yay MS tags that are unexistant here
[vote]Raging Bully[/vote]
yay MS tags that are unexistant here
Confirming~
So it's Touhou Clue now huh?~ :3
So it's Touhou Clue now huh?~ :3
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seems 11/12 is enough let's go
After Remi left, everyone just stared at each other. Something wasn't as it seemed...it was bad enough that Flan had apparently died, but everyone could sense something else was off. They just decided to not worry about it now and argue over who the killer could have been.
it is D1, the deadline is 7/30 09:00 GMT. it's slightly less than 96 hours but better to have it move faster and be more active imo
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
After Remi left, everyone just stared at each other. Something wasn't as it seemed...it was bad enough that Flan had apparently died, but everyone could sense something else was off. They just decided to not worry about it now and argue over who the killer could have been.
it is D1, the deadline is 7/30 09:00 GMT. it's slightly less than 96 hours but better to have it move faster and be more active imo
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Vote: NoHitter
Vote: NH
Sheep fartownik to victory!
Sheep fartownik to victory!
Unvote
Vote: Sakura
SHEEP PLS
Vote: Sakura
SHEEP PLS
vote: Sakura
Sheep fartownik to v- oh wait
Sheep fartownik to v- oh wait
Vote: Kanye
obv scum is obv
obv scum is obv
Hi, just woke up.
Vote: NoHitter
Vote: NoHitter
Hi guys.
Two's method again? It worked last time
Two's method again? It worked last time
Ok, i'm a secret bulletproof unlynchable dayvig cop.
unvote
unvote
I'm fine with this.NoHitter wrote:
Hi guys.
Two's method again? It worked last time
yea yea fart, I have no doubt that you are fine with it 
if I learned anything from my games so far, then that massclaiming at day 1 is not a good idea.
if I learned anything from my games so far, then that massclaiming at day 1 is not a good idea.
EBWOP: This is different though. We have no idea how many VTs are there/if any at all. If everyone's a PR then it might turn out pretty ugly.
this is pyp, and also touhou. I think it's a safe bet that everyone is a PR
which btw. means that unless we outright scream our PRs out, it won't do anything
It didnt say it was role madness tho.
why would you give any touhou character a VT role?
also read OP. there it says that pieguy would choose matching abilities for every character, so unless someone wanted to be a plain boring human from the village, nobody will be a VT
What is wrong with being part of the human village
I guess we could confirm that by half-massclaiming. Everyone says if he's a PR a or not, without revealing the actual role.
EBWOP: But don't do that yet. Just a rough idea, need confirmation of this before actually doing it.
I don't really see the sense behind such action, though I don't see much harm in it either, since I am pretty convinced that everyone is a PR.
I didnt like that idea when NH did it on StD and i don't like it here either.
So here's some discussion.
I got a townread on fartownik, discuss!
I got a townread on fartownik, discuss!
null, he kinda wants to massclaim, but questions its usefullness.
I got a townread on him way before that
I got scumread on Sakura.
Also I just thrown the idea. I don't think it'd do much harm even if not everyone was a PR, it'd bring some information anyhow at least.
Also I just thrown the idea. I don't think it'd do much harm even if not everyone was a PR, it'd bring some information anyhow at least.
EBWOP: @Sakura: what's your base on your townread in me?
[quote="Tanz"00k1]null, he kinda wants to massclaim, but questions its usefullness.[/quote00k1]
How is he exactly questioning its usefulness? None of his posts show any doubt.
And Sakura, when you give out your reads, give your reasoning.
As of now, I have no reads on anyone yet. Game's still starting and I want to see everyone participate in the discussion before I give my reads.
Incidentally guys, for this setup, we need to massclaim both the character and the role. The abilities should correlate with the character through some way.
Then we have to set a time from X to Y for all the claims. (if only we could do the same as in IRC mafia for this...) The longer they take to claim, the more likely they may have to make fake claims. Then probably we can watch for any contradictions.
How is he exactly questioning its usefulness? None of his posts show any doubt.
And Sakura, when you give out your reads, give your reasoning.
As of now, I have no reads on anyone yet. Game's still starting and I want to see everyone participate in the discussion before I give my reads.
Incidentally guys, for this setup, we need to massclaim both the character and the role. The abilities should correlate with the character through some way.
Then we have to set a time from X to Y for all the claims. (if only we could do the same as in IRC mafia for this...) The longer they take to claim, the more likely they may have to make fake claims. Then probably we can watch for any contradictions.
I am aware of that, the point of the discussion is whether you can guess why i'm townreading farto.NoHitter wrote:
And Sakura, when you give out your reads, give your reasoning.
So you think scum are not PRs by this? Even if they claim the flavor + role they might be null reads because they might be PRs as well (and they probably are anyways).NoHitter wrote:
Incidentally guys, for this setup, we need to massclaim both the character and the role. The abilities should correlate with the character through some way.
NH: How is it beneficial to town to inform scum of any possible OP roles?
Please tell me and I will say if I think you're Town.Sakura wrote:
I am aware of that, the point of the discussion is whether you can guess why i'm townreading farto.NoHitter wrote:
And Sakura, when you give out your reads, give your reasoning.
Well that's a horrible point of discussion then.
It looks as if you're getting us to say why "farto is town" then you'd just say "correct" and sheep one of the reasons given even if that wasn't your original reason.
It looks as if you're getting us to say why "farto is town" then you'd just say "correct" and sheep one of the reasons given even if that wasn't your original reason.
Everything will come with time, i wanna hear everyone's thoughts on why i'm townreading you to see if everyone's seeing the same thing i'm seeing.
NH, fart said he wants to wait for more people to discuss, instead of directly forcing the massclaim out. for me, that is a questioning-ish action.
also, I won't claim.
also, I won't claim.
I'm conditioned now to always feel like a lightning stroke me down whenever someone wants to massclaim day 1.
I'm not NoHitter to claim in my first post already. I'm also not sure of all the pluses and minuses the action might give in the future, though I'm waiting for the opinions.Tanzklaue wrote:
NH, fart said he wants to wait for more people to discuss, instead of directly forcing the massclaim out. for me, that is a questioning-ish action.
also, I won't claim.
EBWOP:
More people posted in between-
@fartownik: Flavor and common sense
Unless the mod made safeclaims, you'd expect scum roles to exist outside of traditional "town" roles. Also if the flavor of the character they claim doesn't quite fit the description, then lynch. I'm sure we have enough flavor-expert people to verify this.
More people posted in between-
@fartownik: Flavor and common sense
Unless the mod made safeclaims, you'd expect scum roles to exist outside of traditional "town" roles. Also if the flavor of the character they claim doesn't quite fit the description, then lynch. I'm sure we have enough flavor-expert people to verify this.
It's the same reason as in Stacking the Deck. You may inform them yes, but in turn you also get information that will help town lynch them or plan ahead.Sakura wrote:
NH: How is it beneficial to town to inform scum of any possible OP roles?
I townread fartownik because of noticing the blatant sheeping I did, and I asked to discuss that so we got out of RVS fast and we can start hunting information, and I love how I already got some reactions from my point of discussion.
Leaning Town: fartownik, Tanz
Leaning Scum: NH.
Null: Everyone else.
And no massclaiming PRs is not a good idea to hunt information.
Leaning Town: fartownik, Tanz
Leaning Scum: NH.
Null: Everyone else.
And no massclaiming PRs is not a good idea to hunt information.
claiming only PR has no pluses nor minuses.
claiming the exact roles doesn't help town all that much, while scum can pick out the better townroles.
claiming the exact roles doesn't help town all that much, while scum can pick out the better townroles.
And didnt you say, there were no VTs?
there arn't. but killing for example a cop is better than killing a FBI agent (I struggled to find a really useless role lol)
There may be a cop yes, there also may be a doctor, who's the scum gonna shoot first?
doctor, since you can't shoot the cop if the doctor has a functioning brain.
So NH care to tell me why you think it would work, in the most likely scenario that we are all PRs?
Or did you want to claim everyone's abilities so you and your scumbuddies take out the most OP ones?
Or did you want to claim everyone's abilities so you and your scumbuddies take out the most OP ones?
I'm all for not claiming the exact roles in this game. This is different than Stack the Deck. The only thing we should do is to half-claim.
@Sakura: I don't see how anyone wouldn't notice you sheeping to me. Everyone noticed that and that doesn't mean everyone's Town.
@Sakura: I don't see how anyone wouldn't notice you sheeping to me. Everyone noticed that and that doesn't mean everyone's Town.
Yeah, but you thought i was scum for doing so.
I'm psure he just joked around.
Sakura wrote:
I am aware of that, the point of the discussion is whether you can guess why i'm townreading farto.NoHitter wrote:
And Sakura, when you give out your reads, give your reasoning.
Care to tell us why Tanz is leaning town, and I'm leaning scum?Sakura wrote:
I townread fartownik because of noticing the blatant sheeping I did, and I asked to discuss that so we got out of RVS fast and we can start hunting information, and I love how I already got some reactions from my point of discussion.
Leaning Town: fartownik, Tanz
Leaning Scum: NH.
Null: Everyone else.
And no massclaiming PRs is not a good idea to hunt information.
Nice scumpainting there.Sakura wrote:
So NH care to tell me why you think it would work, in the most likely scenario that we are all PRs?
Or did you want to claim everyone's abilities so you and your scumbuddies take out the most OP ones?
If we were all PR's then let me repeat what I told you:
1) Flavor - if a character's flavor does not match with his/her role, lynch
2) Setup - some roles will be deemed questionable if placed in a town sense: i.e. Roleblocker; also, some roles are technically hand in hand with each other: A Watcher will almost all the time be paired with a Tracker, etc. If any inconsistencies pop out, lynch
Tbh I'm pretty sure everyone is PR, this is Touhou after all.fartownik wrote:
I'm all for not claiming the exact roles in this game. This is different than Stack the Deck. The only thing we should do is to half-claim
In the first Touhou PyP, also hosted by pieguy, everyone was PR too.
Once again we're have the "PR roles saving us" VS "We lynch mafia based on info" debate.