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RiiBzxX

deadbeat wrote:

rakiru wrote:

Is it possible to get the old skin back? I really don't like the new spinner (it's hard to tell how much you've got left to do), and I'd like the option to use the old circles and stuff too.
the old default skin is floating around the forum's
try here t/51694
Can't find it, can anyone provide a direct link?

(PS. Maybe an option for "use old skin"?)
deadbeat
http://puu.sh/1eLHw <- old default skin link i found at the link i already gave :p
miukun_old
Love the new skin, it's amazing. *-*
Pereira006
wooow great update :D
dMaxb
+ㅠ+ nice job this is so sexy
azenet
I don't like how notes disappear now, kinda makes the game slack. Also, misses going a little down is very disturbing, and something disturbs me on the new gameplay, I can't read quite as I was able to before. The rest looks really good!
xHeroes
New osu! default skin is much better then the old. osu!stream PC Version Skin mabye?
[Luanny]
omg this is so fucking beautiful
inocentlolita
It looks good but I need to adapt I guess. I have been playing Osu for 5 years now and it is going to be hard to adapt. I just found out about the mini games but I'm not sure why you guys took it off for the multi player .The main thing I really don't enjoy is when you play the colors don't change :< it is harder to tell which one is which if you guys can at least change the colors for the circles that will be great and thank you.
Krenyez
WoW,, Nice Update !
Love
The old skin can be downloaded with the updater, just get the template. As for the new UI/Skin: The 'Mode' button has rough edges.

Can't tell if it's just me though.
RiiBzxX

deadbeat wrote:

http://puu.sh/1eLHw <- old default skin link i found at the link i already gave :p
Oh, now I feel stupid. Thank you.
Solid_Snake_old_1
Hey, could you please provide us with the actual files so it's possible to edit them? I'd like to edit a few small things to fit my likings, I will not release it if you don't want me to (Wasn't planning to anyway)
Topic Starter
peppy

Love wrote:

The old skin can be downloaded with the updater, just get the template. As for the new UI/Skin: The 'Mode' button has rough edges.
Can't tell if it's just me though.
This will happen at "in-between" resolutions like 1680x1050, where high res sprites are being used but scaled too much. I'll look into fixing this by using lower resolution ones in these cases where possible.

Dempsey- wrote:

Hey, could you please provide us with the actual files so it's possible to edit them? I'd like to edit a few small things to fit my likings, I will not release it if you don't want me to (Wasn't planning to anyway)
Please see opening post. They will be released soon.

Francis56789 wrote:

But it lags when spinner starts and the osu! sign on the bottom right is blocking my rank :(
What graphics card are you running on? How long does the lag last for? I could replicate this on my VM, but assumed it was just my VM being a VM as no one else complained.
Tshemmp
Looks really great.

The few things I don't like:
  1. the ranking letters, hard to determine between SH and XH
  2. the spinner, you can't really tell what is going on imo
  3. the new slidertick behavior, SV changes are impossible to read now
  4. edit: the misses falling down looks really irritating
  5. edit2: the difference betwenn played and unplayed difficulty is not so easy to tell: http://puu.sh/2knic
Apart from this, this update is just sexy! <3
DeadRamza
It's Beautifull!
4 years playing this game and looking at it now is like seeing a child grow!
Only thing i'll have to get used is the back button after i finish the beatmaps, but that's not a problem at all.
Great job Peppy!
dreta
The new skin's great!
Mordrien

azenet wrote:

Also, misses going a little down is very disturbing, and something disturbs me on the new gameplay
Same here. I dont even know why would you add this, it is distracting as hell
Lonal
I DON'T LIKE THIS SKIN AT ALL!
DON'T DO UNNEEDEDTHING LIKE THIS!
SORRY
MiDNiGhT2903
Hate the new skin....
Totally made my custom skin looks like scrub D:

Please release the skin files pl0x peppy!!
Merusadas
I love new skin, except I don't need 300, and the cursor, I wanna use my own for the cursor
E14
where's the online stuff after the map was play finished?.. i wanna save those my gameplay into OSZ file...
btw i really like the skin, specially the follow point :)
deadbeat

essamaneira wrote:

where's the online stuff after the map was play finished?.. i wanna save those my gameplay into OSZ file...
btw i really like the skin, specially the follow point :)
scroll down. just click and drag the screen and the ranking information is below it :)
IppE
So whats up with the forced red filter on play-warningarrow.png? Makes the point of having a custom one quite moot...
Lanttu
I wish that the hit images had a bit more color in them, if there's a stream it's hard to notice 100 in the middle of many 300's. ;w; But otherwise, this skin looks awesome.
Nadeshikofjsk
Whenn CTB, Taiko, and Osu! Mania came back..

:( I can't play OSU! without them :(
kuronyan9
nice new skin!! :3
i like it-nyaaan~ :)
deadbeat

Nadeshikofjsk wrote:

Whenn CTB, Taiko, and Osu! Mania came back..

:( I can't play OSU! without them :(
click on the Modes button beside mods at the bottom of the song selection. you can select your game mode there :)
Feanor
Is it possible to recover old skin?
I really don`t know how IT could be nice, i`ve got headache after 10 minutes of it, dropping deep "x", it`s awful.
Where is the key to make all as it was yesterday, if it even exist?
hexTech soulKeeper
is there any way to override the new default skin and replace it with the old default skin?
deadbeat
the old osu! skin can be downloaded here :)
t/51694
uurabbit
The new edition seems to be cleaner than before in the way of score displaying, but in fact it do affect our accurate rates for we can't see clearliy what scores we get (they all appear in the same small size and turn out to be the same color ). On this point I do miss the former osu.......Hope this situation can be improved! Thanks to all the staff :)
Andrea
Awesome update :)
Komeiji Yuki
stop adding skin elements which are no-use , plz
Ookamin_old
The new skin is indeed awesome.
The only thing i don't liked was the spinner. Is really difficult to see the cursor.
Komeiji Yuki

THIS
UPDATE
JUST
MADE
ME
SAD


Hatate-tan
Had errors. What should I do?
SPLvFOR
the new skin is cool,

but can you release the template of the new skin?
Kert
Best thing ever is followpoints with direction
It would be cool if we could also change the "density" of them! (change the average distance between each followpoint and another this way)
And the skin as a whole is a lot better in terms of readability in comparison with the previous default skin
Great job!
deadbeat

Hatate-tan wrote:

Had errors. What should I do?
all issues need to be posted in technical support 5
Meru
I feels like updates season of osu! right now lol too much improvement in UI xD
frfrfr_old
Nice skin. But new mode select and result screen make me angry. And animated misses - what the hell, who add this?
Arnold0
So good new skin :)
But it have a little problem when you use custom skin for changing some hitsouds for ex, the old sliderpoint10 / sliderpiont30 become displayed
primrose
osu! logo in song select is covering the rank bar.
deadbeat

Awoken- wrote:

osu! logo in song select is covering the rank bar.
already been reported in tech support :)
Cuvelia
Nice :)
Kei
I love this update! the game looks so neat now with the new default skin.
Cobra
Love:
Less Japanese themed. I've always wanted it to look like a regular music game style, if that makes sense. Now it does.
Gamemode changing from play screen.
No big giant exploding 300s, 100s, and 50s.



Dislike:
How the SS looks. Needs to be more noticeable, it just sort of looks like a thicker S.
How the spinner looks. Uhh... needs to be more simple I think.

Cool update!
RoIada z Miesem
WTF my fucking antivirus found a virus xD
deadbeat
either allow osu! as a safe program or use something other than avira :p
tetsutaro
I FRIGGIN' LOVE HOW THE TAIKO EDITOR CHANGES THE NOTE COLOR AUTOMATICALLY TO RED/BLUE :D
This is so gonna help in mapping further Taiko diffs so much
Stefan

tetsutaro wrote:

I FRIGGIN' LOVE HOW THE TAIKO EDITOR CHANGES THE NOTE COLOR AUTOMATICALLY TO RED/BLUE :D
This is so gonna help in mapping further Taiko diffs so much
Actually made for the lazyasses :P

me, Luanny, etc. /runs
ddr2c68
only what i can say is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

this update is so good HAHAHA :)
Lanturn
Everything looks great. The only thing that bugs me right now is when I scroll through scores and I'm at the bottom 40 end of the score board and press the arrow to scroll over. It takes me to rank 80 instead of the top at 41. Slightly annoying to have to scroll back to the top to look at the 41st/81st place after scrolling to the bottom.
kriers
My only concern is how this will affect future ranking criteria in terms of hitburst overlapping circles being a much less severe problem with the new hitbursts.

The spinner is on ACID btw o_o and the hit lightning is for some reason half the original size, even on custom skins, which is very confusing at the moment.
The new follow points are brilliant. Using them in my new custom skin as of now!

Overall great job!
Sakura
@kriers: RC will stay the same, just that it'll be more lenient in that regard, since the RC only mentions "if it renders them invisible/covers them"

I think a down arrow at result screen would be a nice idea since it doesn't seem to be very intuitive to people that they need to scroll down, or a message telling them to scroll down for it, or idk.
Winshley
Likes:
- The new default skin, especially the followpoint and the shining spinner.
- The osu!stream-like interfaces.
- Hitbursts are now at the bottom of the objects.

Dislikes:
- Sliderball is also dimmed under Flashlight. Not sure if intentional, but posting here just in case.
- The bright cursor makes it hard to spin small with the new spinner.
- The leaderboard panel is indeed scrollable by dragging, but only if you drag it around the right side of the leaderboard because you can't click at the left side.
- The small SS and S (and especially SSH and SH) icons are almost indistinguishable. I prefer clearly showing two 'S'-es instead of being stacked or overlapped.
- The gradually-appearing sliderticks. I prefer the old behavior.

Sakura wrote:

I think a down arrow at result screen would be a nice idea since it doesn't seem to be very intuitive to people that they need to scroll down, or a message telling them to scroll down for it, or idk.
The first thing I saw at the ranking screen is the existence of the scrollbar at the right-side, and I immediately used mouse-wheel on that. :P
K i Zz i
Isn't good. I can't play with this Skin. I hate it.
Exw
Love the new default skin, but it makes my custom skin messed up ):
But,

osu logo covers the rank stats. hope it fixed soon, if it possible?
Fenek Alfa

peppy wrote:

Also worth a mention is the few users that stick around on the test build and provide near real-time feedback on the changes (hi MillhioreF, statementreply).
Please add somebody who plays high AR to the testgroup next time, the movement of the falling failmarks tips me off and I fail even more.
Inb4 "Reskin it so it's invisible you faggot!"
Cancel
Very nice!! :)

but i'll keep using custom skins. Still very awesome!
noneed
10/10
Verlaren
Awesome and too hard...
VarragUnhilgt
Can't play the game with this skin...
MillhioreF

Fenek Alfa wrote:

peppy wrote:

Also worth a mention is the few users that stick around on the test build and provide near real-time feedback on the changes (hi MillhioreF, statementreply).
Please add somebody who plays high AR to the testgroup next time, the movement of the falling failmarks tips me off and I fail even more.
Inb4 "Reskin it so it's invisible you faggot!"
There's no such thing as a "testgroup" - any supporters are free to hang around on the test build and test new updates. It's just a coincidence that the few users who are regulars there don't really play AR10 (I tested AR9 insanes there and they were fine.)
Although it may not even be a coincidence, I'm fairly sure that 95% of osu! can't read AR10 at all (it's just the vocal minority as well as the top 5% of players who can)
Sakura

Fenek Alfa wrote:

peppy wrote:

Also worth a mention is the few users that stick around on the test build and provide near real-time feedback on the changes (hi MillhioreF, statementreply).
Please add somebody who plays high AR to the testgroup next time, the movement of the falling failmarks tips me off and I fail even more.
Inb4 "Reskin it so it's invisible you faggot!"
Anyone can test as long as they are supporter and use the test build.
TakuMii

Fenek Alfa wrote:

peppy wrote:

Also worth a mention is the few users that stick around on the test build and provide near real-time feedback on the changes (hi MillhioreF, statementreply).
Please add somebody who plays high AR to the testgroup next time, the movement of the falling failmarks tips me off and I fail even more.
Inb4 "Reskin it so it's invisible you faggot!"
Beta testing isn't done by selection... it's a bonus for donating.
APM20

deadbeat wrote:

http://puu.sh/1eLHw <- old default skin link i found at the link i already gave :p
Thanks! I find hitbursts too small with the new one.
TouchFluffyTail
I must really say this new UI is pretty amazingly well done. Very smooth and simple while still managing to be visually appealing, AND it's 400% more readable than the previous (read: actually usable now). Just the way I like it. My only gripes would be the new rank icons and the scrolling on the results screen, but otherwise it's pretty great.

Thanks for all the recent graphical enhancements peppy, as someone who spends way too much time in photoshop messing with the game.
Pseudopod
I think it would be beneficial to have some options regarding the new changes outside of skins (the falling x's, the ranking screen ect); many people seem to dislike these (including me) and as of now we have no way to alter them. Everything excepting (and I hate to reiterate) the spinners, is very nice and clean, however. Regarding the follow points, many have seemed to say that they enjoy them...I find them confusing when they overlap / or are close together (for example on the Spinboxer dif of backsteps' Dj Okawari Canon map), and am curious as to hear what people like about them
rory12342006
Can add hidden 300 and transparent function?
thanks!
Cieno
It's nice and looks awesome, but I'm having a harder time seeing whether I get 300, 100, or 50... Maybe I'm just not used it. The old skin wasn't as sleek but was easier on the eyes with regards to what I mentioned. So maybe it comes as no coincidence that I had a play through of my usual maps today with the new skin and am getting worse scores than I normally do. But I won't complain about the update, seeing as it seems to agree with most people, and hopefully I'll adapt to it in time. I just wish there was an option to revert to the old skin, though.
hiE
would be good if someone makes this skin customizable.
and the skin resembles of that in OSU! Stream app.

im not used to the "big" cursor. but overall, very nice skin.
Marthene
Likes :
Almost everything

Dislikes :

Scrolling result screen . I just really got used to the old one and I like it more and the whole scrolling thing feels kinda weird . :?
rickyboi
>play song
>finsh song
>want to exit from result screen
>keeps on hitting replay every god damn time.
...
MitchDJohn
Overall the new skin is pretty cool, my only quibble is that the new spinner seems to overwrite older custom themed spinners
r-Beatz

hiE wrote:

would be good if someone makes this skin customizable.
This ^
Default skin looks pretty neat now. Smaller hitbursts, isn't that what people kept insisting on earlier? Why complaining then?
Good job with the new update!
FloppytoKey

rickyboi wrote:

>play song
>finsh song
>want to exit from result screen
>keeps on hitting replay every god damn time.
...
^ Same here.
Anyway, i like the new skin, is pretty neat and clean =)
Macacito
i am a wee bit annoyed and should have thought before posting.
Biri-Biri

Macacito wrote:

i am a wee bit annoyed and should have thought before posting.
Not sure if trolling or retarded.
Bittersweet
Probably retarded. Edit: Oh, its Macacito. Retarded for sure.

Anyway, while i have some (nazi) issues with the new skin, i love it. And its so much better than the old one! XD I will probably just adapt it to my own tastes (and add some cute-useless stuff to the fail/pause screen and such) than keep using a totally customed one :D
Macacito
my above post was edited
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now i have half of my game in default skin and other half in stupid new default skin, for example: autopilot https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/661746
those 5 mode options https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/661757
these stupid new bottons where the cursor is https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/661758
this thing https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/661760
look at the clock next to the accuracy, there's a white point right on the middle of it wtf https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/661794
Bittersweet
Thats because old default skin didnt have those elements, you derp. Auto pilot icon wasn't on Template skin. You can make them yourself if it botters you so much :)
Zakdawg
Love the new skin... it will leave a way better impact on new people trying the game.

Everything just seems more crisp than the old skin.

I dont know quite to say about the new spinners, but I managed a constant 430, which I believe is because it is easier to keep track of the new cursor. I guess it looks cool. :)
Macacito

Bittersweet wrote:

Thats because old default skin didnt have those elements, you derp. Auto pilot icon wasn't on Template skin. You can make them yourself if it botters you so much :)
i only have paint
GraveGalius
*^* the new skin is... EPIC!! thank you!!!
Exerion
White reverse arrows on white sliders - great idea. "Try to guess when need to repeat". Hooray new skin, I will miss 70% often.
>:(
CXu
Well, just a list of stuff I find weird or improvable or whatever. Some are probably feature request in nature, while others are bugs or just changes, so I'm posting it here for now. If you have a nice place to post everything, then direct me there \o\

  1. S and SS looks way too similar. At first I thought you removed the SS rank and replaced it with orange/red S and gold S :P
  2. I'd rather have the mode selection button at the far-right than far-left, as the mods button is heavily used by many, and you're probably used to hitting the far-left button already. Well, it's not a big deal, but prevents a lot of random misclicks.
  3. Speaking of the Mode selection button; why is only the icon for osu!standard tilted? It looks really weird with everythng else, and considering how hitcircles are, well, not tilted in-game, I it shouldn't be tilted. Just a small annoyance.
  4. The mode selection button is a bit bigger than the others as well, which honestly doesn't look as neat.
  5. The new hitbursts look awesome, but the font looks a bit too.. uuuh... sharp or something. A font similar to the score letters would look better imo.
  6. Hitburst colors need to be more distinguishable, as you'll look at the colors rather than the numbers to determine your accuracy.
  7. Falling miss indicators are fairly annoying. They're the only hitbursts with a falling animation. Having lots of misses results in lots of these crosses falling down, which makes the screen more clustered than they should. For example, you miss a note above the note you're supposed to hit next. The X from above falls down, and it obstructs the view as well as looking like you mishit something here as well. Animation like this in general makes reading harder as well.
  8. The spinner is just weird, and it doesn't tell you anything; neither how much time there is left to spin nor how much you've spun/how far you're from completing the spinner. The spinner also looks a bit out of place compared to the rest of the skin imo.
  9. Slidertick behaviour should be changed, as slider velocity changes are much harder to read now. It doesn't make sense that the tick should appear as if they were approach circles expanding (I think this is what you're trying to do?). By this logic, the slider shouldn't even show it's whole path before you hit the slider.
  10. Since you're revamping the whole skin, why is the sliderball still a beach ball :P
  11. Might want to make the cursor easier to see.
  12. http://puu.sh/2kudW <-- This looks extremely weird, as the repeat arrow should be a part of the slider-tail here, but it's not overlapped by the slider-head.
  13. You should be able to change the ranking screen by flicking, and have the screens snap into place. I'm not going to ever want to look at half of the results screen and half of the ranking screen, ever :P
  14. The space where the back button were previously is super annoying :P
  15. Mod selections should light up a bit more. You can see that a mod is selected because it's tilted, but if you're only going to glance at it, it's hard to notice.
  16. Mods selected shouldn't carry over from one mode to another, imo.
  17. Did you make the ranking graphic smaller? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/661820
  18. Some more coloring on the pass/fail images would be nice :oops:
  19. Oh yeah, why does the back/skip buttons and the pause menu buttons have japanese on them? You did remove them from the main menu, soo yeah.
  20. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/661841 eeh, I think skin preview is showing the wrong health bar.
  21. Right clicking a map, or profile brings up this menu that should have the same style of font as the main menu; thinner.
  22. Fairly sure the "Most Played" button isn't showing the right maps in osu!direct.
  23. Another thing about the rankings: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/662026 When you scroll all the way to the bottom, the toggles for replay saving and favorite adding is partly covered. The screen really shouldn't scroll down that much (and I imagine you'd be able to move those star rating icons a bit up)
Eh, I'll seeif I remember/notice anything else. This will do for now ;)
Appci
Well... Will start using custom skins.
Been playing osu since beta... For a first time, right after this update, can feel my eyes hurting, literally.
Especially the new spinner part. On my eyes it works similar to watching bycicles wheel. After a certain speed i can no longer see witch way its spinning and it gets rly disorientating.
Cataku
AWESOME spinner.
Also, nice scroll at the results screen! o.o
The lack of circle ghosts is still making me think it looks empty, but it's definitely better for more busy maps! :D
Also, the super pretty ripple effect (lighting) is broken .-. Even if that was intended, it just staying there is annoying... .-.

But it's still a GREAT skin! :D
Topic Starter
peppy

Exerion wrote:

White reverse arrows on white sliders - great idea. "Try to guess when need to repeat". Hooray new skin, I will miss 70% often.
>:(
They will turn black after a certain colour threshold.

Based on feedback, I do plan on changing the spinner to be less distracting.
deadbeat

peppy wrote:

Based on feedback, I do plan on changing the spinner to be less distracting.
will you still release the skin elements for the current spinner?
or only for the next one?
Bittersweet

CXu wrote:

[*] http://puu.sh/2kudW <-- This looks extremely weird, as the repeat arrow should be a part of the slider-tail here, but it's not overlapped by the slider-head.

It was always like that xD
Cataku

peppy wrote:

Based on feedback, I do plan on changing the spinner to be less distracting.
Any way to download the spinner elements or something before it's all gone..? .-.
Valance
First I was went "Nice!", then I saw the spinner and went "NICE!!!"
Bittersweet
After playing for an hour or so, i think the miss would be better if it starts to fade at same time it starts to fall. BUT as i cant test it, i dont know, i may be wrong xD
zarif_old
MAN!!!! THIS WAS AWESOME!!! THANK YOU!!
CXu

Bittersweet wrote:

CXu wrote:

[*] http://puu.sh/2kudW <-- This looks extremely weird, as the repeat arrow should be a part of the slider-tail here, but it's not overlapped by the slider-head.

It was always like that xD
Huh wait really? I never noticed until the recent changes :oops:
Arnold0
They will turn black after a certain colour threshold.
Can you change the threshold because on some sliders the arrow remains withe but is hardly seable like these :


This one I failed while playing because I didn't saw the reverse arrow :\
Exerion
^ THIS
Threshold really need to be tuned more thoroughly.
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