1. Collab (5 stars, 1027 notes)
2. Wmf's Taiko (4.83 stars, 1587 notes)

CDFA wrote:

Title should be "Caramell - CaramellDansen (Ryu* Remix) (Nightcore Mix)

Leorda wrote:

Hello

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00:59:820 (1) - Curve slider is better that linear slider.... I‘d like to keep it because the song has a little hard feeling to me
01:05:433 (3,4) - This likely confusing for players. When they already click (3), players are expecting that (4) is snap at blue tick. I suggest (3) is move further away from those stream I didn't meet this problem while I was testplaying, so just keep and see more suggestions
01:06:040 (1) - Unsnapped tail slider hmm?
01:26:900 (3) - Move to 01:26:748 for following vocal? er. I'm following the vocal..
01:54:586 (1) - Remove clap? ok
03:43:663 (x) - Add note here with clap. Some players are expecting 03:43:815 (1) is snap at red tick
03:54:890 (1) - Silence this spinner is better, IMO

Ganbatte!!!

Kawayi Rika wrote:

Hi ~ Star Stream ~

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1. 02:45:863 (2,1) - Until jump here not good imo,need change spacing. I've testplayed this part, it's not as hard as the feeling it gives you via editor mode :3

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00:56:331 ~ 01:06:040
01:55:800 ~ 02:05:509
03:14:687 ~ 03:34:106
[Wmf's Taiko]
00:56:336 ~ 01:06:043
01:55:796 ~ 02:05:503
03:14:671 ~ 03:34:087

Melophobia wrote:

As requested

[General]
Kiai time in Wmf's diff isn't snaped

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01:36:988 - add a note to follow vocal? follow percussion here
02:26:445 - too loud imo, lower volume by 10% plz it's 10% now
02:46:773 (1) - add finishok

that's all~ nice map (ﾉﾟωﾟ)ﾉ☆

ertyukjh010 wrote:

Hello,

[General]

☆ Why don't tick the Letterbox in [Wmf's Taiko] ??
☆ Inconsistency Kiai

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00:56:331 ~ 01:06:040
01:55:800 ~ 02:05:509
03:14:687 ~ 03:34:106
[Wmf's Taiko]
00:56:336 ~ 01:06:043
01:55:796 ~ 02:05:503
03:14:671 ~ 03:34:087

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01:05:737 (4) - [Layout] Wrong distance. I sure it can't be read. Why did you see stack as spacing error? And it can be read with Approach circle.
01:54:435 (9) - [Hitsound] Whistle? added 2

THat all

ertyukjh010 wrote:

[General]

☆ Why don't tick the Letterbox in [Wmf's Taiko] ??
☆ Inconsistency Kiai

SliderBorder : 255,241,184

1. 00:21:742 (4,5,6,7,1) - I know your point here is to make (4,6,1) and (5,7) in a straight line, but the sudden spacing change from (6) to (7) quite bugs my mind... Maybe move (6) more upward, so the spacing will be consistently accelerated over time? xD
2. 00:23:562 (1,2,3,4) - Move all one grid outward, so (4)'s spacing to your next 00:24:624 (4,5,1) will be consistent?
3. 00:27:810 (9) - (optional) Hmm, why don't you shorten this slider by 1/4 and add a note where the slider originally ends (like you did on 00:29:934 (10))? About the arrangement, I think you can just stack the 1/4 to the slider's end, and put your current (10) above the red (1) to create a small jump
4. 00:31:451 (2,3,4,5) - Due to how the vocal sounds here, I suggest to place (3,5) upward of (2,4) instead of downward (the vocal goes high there (: )
5. 00:41:312 (9) - (optional) Stack this to (8)? Fits much more to the song's atmosphere this way imo ((10) and (11) could've just turned into a symmetrical jump, though)
6. 00:42:374 (3,4) - I personally think they'll play much better here if you expand the jump's distance here:
   
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7. 00:44:801 (3) - Drag this to x:296 y:360? This way, (1,2,3) will form a straight line thus avoiding this slider being too close to (2)
8. 00:46:773 (2) - Using a bezier slider here feels kinda off because your next slider fan pattern ((3,4,5)) is linear... Perhaps a square jump would work better here? xD
   
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9. 00:52:083 (3) - First of all, the distance from (2,3) and (3,4) is not equal - plus, I personally dislike how this slider's path almost touch (2), moving the endpoint to the bottom-right won't be that hard (:
10. 00:53:297 (7) - Same as above, but to the top-left this time
11. 00:58:303 (4) - Is the clap here intentional? I personally think it's not the time to put a clap yet...
12. 01:00:427 (3) - (optional) I'd rather keep symmetry here with (1) by facing the slider to the upper-right, but this is purely optional
13. 01:03:309 (4,5,1) - I'm not really sure if this manual stacking is required... imo, (5) can just be stacked to 01:02:096 (4), the jump here will build more energy, though~
14. 01:09:681 (1,2,3,4) - (optional) For variation, extend the jump's distance like this? xD
    
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15. 01:25:003 (5,6) - It would be nice to add a whistle to these two as well, as LKs did in 01:07:861 (1,2)
16. 01:29:100 (1,2) - I don't think you have to go too linear here, you can just put (1)'s endpoint to x:48 y:271 and add a curve upward for example to get a flow here (copy-paste this to (2) if you follow this suggestion)
17. 01:34:713 (5,4) - (optional) Adding a slight curve to these two (upward for (5) and downward for (4)) won't be a bad idea imo :3
18. 01:38:354 (8) - Rotate this by 5° may emphasize the circular effect here (not really sure, though)
19. 01:49:428 (4) - Minor stuff, but here (4) is placed too close to (2) - compare with (1,3)'s distance
20. 01:50:794 (9) - Err, again it's something I'm not really certain about, but add one extra repeat to this 1/8 slider? (I already checked with 25% playback, and it seems an extra repeat is required... Not sure because it's so fast >_<)
21. 01:52:766 (10) - (optional) Try this placement? This way, (8,9) and (10,11) will form a similar jump formation:
    
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22. 01:54:586 (1) - Remove the whistle here - by now, the sound sample from the song should've been stopped, and silence should work best here
23. 01:59:593 (2,3) - Move these two one grid left (freeze your editor on 01:59:521 to get a clearer vision on this minor spacing error)
24. 02:03:082 (1,2,3) - (optional) CTRL+R all? I like how the jump from (3,4) will be :3
25. 02:05:813 (2,5,6) - Starting from this point, I think it's best to put whistle everytime the synth hits high notes - for example (2)'s start, (5), (6), and so on - this suggestion applies until the spinner
26. 02:14:763 (9) - Face this slider to the right instead? The playfield allows you to do so, plus it'll give more variation because your next (3) is already placed upward as well
27. 02:18:404 (4,5,...) - The pattern here is very random, really - I suggest something like this here: (you can CTRL+R some as well to create a star-shaped jump (: )
    
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28. 02:22:804 (5,5) - Add clap - Because it's a long stream, it doesn't mean you should stop the clapping ):
29. 02:31:603 (4) - (optional) Adding a curve to the top-right here won't be a bad idea imo because it flows well with your next (1)
30. 02:44:346 (1,2,...) - I'm quite not fond of the stream design here... I know you're aiming to let the stream's direction alters every four notes, but idk why... it just feels kinda wrong for me. Perhaps you can add a slight jump every time the stream changes its direction, like this?
    
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31. 02:51:021 (5) - Make the finish on slider's end here blends more with the music (by using ~30% volume) ?
32. 03:01:337 (1,2,3,...) - I personally feel this endless stream is kinda overmapped (the rhythm here is actually triple - double - double - double - double), but it's up to you (:
33. 03:12:260 (x) - I recommend to add a note here, so the rhythm doesn't stop in sudden
34. 03:19:239 (9) - (optional) CTRL+R this? Again, I personally feel the jump from (9) to (1) will play nice xD
35. 03:34:713 (3,4,5,6) - Arrange the stacking like this? (it will avoid overstack which will ruin the distance on play mode imo) :
    
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36. 03:43:360 (3,1) - Do you really need to put these two this close? Moving (3) downward to the distance will be normalized isn't that hard, though (:
37. 03:54:890 (1) - Hmm, I suggest to start the inherit section from 75% so you can descend in order like this : 75 -> 65 -> 55 -> 45 -> 35 -> 25 -> 15 -> 5

Niva wrote:

Hi Star Stream~

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1. 00:21:742 (4,5,6,7,1) - I know your point here is to make (4,6,1) and (5,7) in a straight line, but the sudden spacing change from (6) to (7) quite bugs my mind... Maybe move (6) more upward, so the spacing will be consistently accelerated over time? xD a little bit
2. 00:23:562 (1,2,3,4) - Move all one grid outward, so (4)'s spacing to your next 00:24:624 (4,5,1) will be consistent? ok
3. 00:27:810 (9) - (optional) Hmm, why don't you shorten this slider by 1/4 and add a note where the slider originally ends (like you did on 00:29:934 (10))? About the arrangement, I think you can just stack the 1/4 to the slider's end, and put your current (10) above the red (1) to create a small jump sry, I want a reythm contrast here
4. 00:31:451 (2,3,4,5) - Due to how the vocal sounds here, I suggest to place (3,5) upward of (2,4) instead of downward (the vocal goes high there (: ) ok
5. 00:58:303 (4) - Is the clap here intentional? I personally think it's not the time to put a clap yet... Idk, I didn't do hitsounds, deleted
6. 01:00:427 (3) - (optional) I'd rather keep symmetry here with (1) by facing the slider to the upper-right, but this is purely optional fixed
7. 01:03:309 (4,5,1) - I'm not really sure if this manual stacking is required... imo, (5) can just be stacked to 01:02:096 (4), the jump here will build more energy, though~ Don't figure your thought..
8. 01:09:681 (1,2,3,4) - (optional) For variation, extend the jump's distance like this? xD
   
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   I didn't know you're hentai mapper until an arrow took on the knee!
9. 01:38:354 (8) - Rotate this by 5° may emphasize the circular effect here (not really sure, though) keep
10. 01:49:428 (4) - Minor stuff, but here (4) is placed too close to (2) - compare with (1,3)'s distance slightly revised
11. 01:50:794 (9) - Err, again it's something I'm not really certain about, but add one extra repeat to this 1/8 slider? (I already checked with 25% playback, and it seems an extra repeat is required... Not sure because it's so fast >_<) Technically, this is a delay effect, which belongs to FX(a important piece of Mixing) :3 I guess
12. 01:52:766 (10) - (optional) Try this placement? This way, (8,9) and (10,11) will form a similar jump formation:
    
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    good idea
13. 01:54:586 (1) - Remove the whistle here - by now, the sound sample from the song should've been stopped, and silence should work best here ok
14. 01:59:593 (2,3) - Move these two one grid left (freeze your editor on 01:59:521 to get a clearer vision on this minor spacing error) x.x
15. 02:31:603 (4) - (optional) Adding a curve to the top-right here won't be a bad idea imo because it flows well with your next (1) hm, no change, I insist a linear shape to fit the red
16. 02:44:346 (1,2,...) - I'm quite not fond of the stream design here... I know you're aiming to let the stream's direction alters every four notes, but idk why... it just feels kinda wrong for me. Perhaps you can add a slight jump every time the stream changes its direction, like this?
    
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    lol, this stream is like an acute "S" so I think it plays not bad
17. 02:51:021 (5) - Make the finish on slider's end here blends more with the music (by using ~30% volume) ? k
18. 03:19:239 (9) - (optional) CTRL+R this? Again, I personally feel the jump from (9) to (1) will play nice xD yes

Wow, fun map indeed :3
Good luck getting this approved~

Star Stream wrote:

oh, god.. Niva, your modding is just awesome as always!
thanks a lot~

1. Song Setup - tags - plz remove 「kosiga」 Because the SB is simple nameSB, it does not need the addition

1. 03:36:230 (5) - one grid down ? stack with 03:35:168 (6)

I'm sure you have your reasons why you mapped to the vocals in some sections, but I'm still not a fan of it. Here's a list of my suggestions for the first minute or so (took out combo numbers since I overwrote your save and I don't remember how many notes I've added, and I've been unable to update, sorry for inconvenience):
00:17:797 - d here. Change 00:17:949 - to k. well this is a intentional break.
00:26:900 - d here. ^
00:35:851 - D here, and 00:36:154 - vocal rules here
00:36:457 - k here. ^
00:40:705 - D D D k
00:41:464 - dkdkd is closest. k
00:53:448 - use small notes I'm trying to produce a contrast between the two part of the sentences
01:04:675 - make 1/4 kdd emphasizing vocal in the end of a certain section
01:05:282 - d here. ^
01:05:737 - K yes
01:08:316 - k and 01:08:467 - d good catch

wmfchris wrote:

You know I can't help much about this map... here's just a skimming not detailed mod <_<

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Star Stream
01:24:548 (3) - [Nazi]down 1 grid lv4 to make it symmetrical
LKs:
最尾有2個加速(03:28:644 - , 03:33:044 - )我覺得這一句等音高而且一樣重的時候加速不太合適 我的部分的最后一段最后一半是SS做的 所以看他 @star stream

In overall I think it should be ready, go find some MATs lol

no kd

those wrote:

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00:25:079 (2) - Turning this into a kickback until 00:25:383 makes a great improvement on the spacing issue. As of right now you have to wait awkwardly after (2) to play (3). I understand, but I prefer follow the lead here. And this is just the beginning of the map so I don't want a big JUMP

01:37:899 (6,7,8) - Listening to the bass pattern as heard in 01:36:381 (1,2), I feel (6,7,8) should be (6,7,8,9) starting at 01:37:747, being {slider, slider, circle, clircle}, with (9) at 01:38:505. I feel at the very least, the bass-snare at 01:38:354 should be mapped like 01:40:781 (8,9). Hmm.. I want to keep this..or we can discuss

The relationship between 02:46:773 (1) and 02:50:414 (1,2,3,4,5) instead that great. It's either that the spinner is a severe undermapping of the song, or 02:50:414 (1,2,3,4,5) - isn't big enough. I don't really figure this, can you show me example?(pic)

1. The title should be "Caramelldansen (Ryu* Remix) (Nightcore Mix)".
2. What's the significance of the tags "ryutaro nakahara starmine"?
3. You may want to consider getting a background image for the Taiko.
4. I couldn't find anything wrong with the Taiko anymore, after the fixes in the last mod(s).

1. 01:15:749 (3) - No this, make here just a reverse slider should be better, this is really hard to hit while playing
2. 01:18:025 (6) - Hmm, this jump seems comes too sudden, maybe use usual spacing here?
3. 01:47:456 (1) - yay this jump is hard to catch imo, so maybe you can just put 01:47:304 (7) - between 01:47:153 (6) - and 01:47:456 (1) - ?
4. 02:46:167 (1) - ...This jump is crazy, you sure anyone who won't miss his combo here?

Breeze wrote:

sorry for late reply

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1. 01:15:749 (3) - No this, make here just a reverse slider should be better, this is really hard to hit while playing [/color]
2. 01:47:456 (1) - yay this jump is hard to catch imo, so maybe you can just put 01:47:304 (7) - between 01:47:153 (6) - and 01:47:456 (1) - ? fixed
3. 02:46:167 (1) - ...This jump is crazy, you sure anyone who won't miss his combo here? this is not that hard, the only thing is a 1/4 jump but it's very obvious. 但还是把那俩slider换了一下

That's all I guess

1. 00:45:408 (1,2,3,1,2) - This doesn't play very well due to the anti jump. To increase the playability and flow, how about moving 00:45:863 (3) - to stack under 00:45:711 (2) - and moving 00:46:470 (3) - under 00:46:318 (2) - ?
2. 01:03:006 (4,5,1) - Consider to not stack this to give more readability and better flow. In previous rythim you always spam of 1/2 rythim, and i get used with it. But when passing this point, i surprise it was 1/1 stack. I guarantee many player will be surprise to see this stack too. Doing something like this 00:55:117 (1,2,3,4) - is good idea since i can read the 1/1 very well.
3. 01:31:982 (3) - I can't read this note very well due to the spacing inconsitencies with previous and next note. How about using the same spacing of previous note (1,1x)?
4. 01:35:320 (1) - This one too is quite hard to read. How about stacking this below 01:34:713 (5) - end?

Miya wrote:

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1. 01:03:006 (4,5,1) - Consider to not stack this to give more readability and better flow. In previous rythim you always spam of 1/2 rythim, and i get used with it. But when passing this point, i surprise it was 1/1 stack. I guarantee many player will be surprise to see this stack too. Doing something like this 00:55:117 - I'm afraid no, 1/1 stack shouldn't be prevent since it needs some readability. Having the ability to deal with slowdowns is as important as high speed 1/2/1/4 imo, other than that, there is no place to arrange it like 00:55:117 -

Your mapping style is very similar. It's hard to distinguish every part if you don't put any names on this map @@. what, I focus on patterns(but regardless of distance snap) like 01:10:895 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - the second 1234 was made by copy&paste and rotating. S.S seems to be more random when mapping(but he actually map with distance snap)such as 00:39:340 (1,2,3) - and he has some different slider construction too.

1. 00:39:947 (3) - Move to x:384 y:184 to let (1,2,3,4) have more free space between each note?
2. 00:46:925 (3) - Missing clap here
3. 01:31:982 (3,4,5) - Somehow I agree with Miya here, actually this note isn't hard to read for me but it could just formed better to increase readability... An arc like this definitely plays/flows better rather than forcing (4) in the center imo:
   
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4. 02:14:763 (9) - Add whistle on the repeat also? (due to that shouting sound from the song)
5. 03:01:337 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,...) - Still, the rhythm is actually not that intense here, actually it's just triple-double-double-double, but this is the part that gives the most fun to me so I'm leaving this xD
6. 03:14:384 (7) - If you want, you can add an inherit section on 03:14:422 (to completely silent the sliderslide, it fits the song) and 03:14:536 (to reset the volume for the slider's end) xD
7. 03:52:614 (5), 03:53:222 (13) - Add clap as well to intensify the ending?

Miya wrote:

it's have 1 bubble by 1 BAT and 1 bubble by MAT so it's only need one BAT again to approve this :3

Niva wrote:

Asked jericho2442 about this and he said the bubble should be #1, so...

Bubbled~ (#1)

Sorry for any inconvenience >_<

Good luck Star Stream!
This map is so funnnnnnnn >_<