i cant stay asleep
lolNicNock wrote:
dang some oil splashed onto me and it seems the splash was extra big and made a mark ouch
in other words I'm literally cooked
ps!expunged: "i just honestly wanted to make a joke about zem being so chunky, haha."Achromalia wrote:
mm i didnt have very many thoughts at first tbh so... i'll just take on everything i see while i think about it againlostsilver wrote:
hehehe tysm!!! and dont worry!! you can take all the time you need <33
also i wanna know what you thought of this hehe,,,lostsilver wrote:
ps!expunged, chuckling: "i'm surprised ps!bandu ate the salad knowing how chonky ze is."
ps!bandu, giggling: "HEYY!!"
*ps!bandu and ps!expunged laugh with eachother, happily. ps!bandu ruffles ps!expunged's hair playfully and ps!expunged does the same to zem <3*idk if there's any necessarily direct reason why salad wouldnt be eaten bc of having some chonk, i think it makes more sense if it didnt feel filling, or if it was like a texture problem or a problem with not tasting that good or something. a lot of various people can eat salads, so it didnt really feel like it was well-explained
salad can be ok :> it really depends on whats in it bc its not automatically energizing and nutritious just from being called "salad", but there are good parts of it like roughage for fiber (although this varies too)
i wonder a lot about what this means to you as the one writing their roles... it's probably fair to enjoy writing them this way, irl i tend to be more interested in being neutral about my body and other peoples' bodies, i want to be allowed to be frustrated with a body that doesnt look the way i would've liked it-- or a part that hurts or doesnt feel right-- without necessarily feeling like i have to stay frustrated in order to satisfy anyone's opinions about it. at the same time, i don't want to feel like i have to put in the genuinely high level of exhausting effort it takes to "love" this body and pretend i don't have problems with it so that i dont look like im complaining too much for other people...
however, everyone can have their own opinions about their own bodies. those bodies are theirs to associate with or dissociate with! and the one i have is simply not a body i want, i really dislike it, but i don't want to feel forced to dislike it or like it just because it doesn't fit a narrative about either being conventionally attractive and beautiful or doesn't fit a narrative about being interesting and unconventional in some groundbreaking way. for someone else, it might be more natural to genuinely like their body for its features, and they might be comfortable taking that time and effort because it genuinely heals them, because maybe they feel good that way...
as for the dynamic between these siblings though, i feel like it's not really something they think about that much. they already seem to each have defined opinions about how they view their bodies, and although i don't know what exactly it means, it looks like theyre ok, so... that seems good enough <3
watching them play together is super sweet...
ps!bandu: "it's ok!! dont beat yourself up about it <3"Achromalia wrote:
oh,, ok i guess i gave too much thought, fair enough;; i shouldve figured it wasnt actually thoughts that were wanted, maybe just affirmation or a simple reaction suggesting it was cute
maybe i'll get it right next time;;
for ps!bambi: anything you do outside the house or lab with ps!ex that soothes both of you?
for ps!expunged: someplace you've been with mister cresswell with a pretty view?
dave: "give me something glasses related about expunged."Achromalia wrote:
good luck ^^
for everyone: topic check?
oh?? whats the mesmer greenscreen for? but those outfits could be fun,, enojyyyylostsilver wrote:
also~
i also plan on drawing dave and bambi in teto and miku's outfits, hehe,,,
it's for a frame in the og where miku and teto are on a green screen <3Achromalia wrote:
i thinkk... im gonna nap...oh?? whats the mesmer greenscreen for? but those outfits could be fun,, enojyyyylostsilver wrote:
also~
i also plan on drawing dave and bambi in teto and miku's outfits, hehe,,,
ohhh ok i sorta remember now :Olostsilver wrote:
it's for a frame in the og where miku and teto are on a green screen <3Achromalia wrote:
i thinkk... im gonna nap...oh?? whats the mesmer greenscreen for? but those outfits could be fun,, enojyyyylostsilver wrote:
also~
i also plan on drawing dave and bambi in teto and miku's outfits, hehe,,,
also have a nice nap!!!
i see!! ty for your thoughts on it <33Achromalia wrote:
ohhh ok i sorta remember now :Olostsilver wrote:
it's for a frame in the og where miku and teto are on a green screen <3Achromalia wrote:
i thinkk... im gonna nap...oh?? whats the mesmer greenscreen for? but those outfits could be fun,, enojyyyylostsilver wrote:
also~
i also plan on drawing dave and bambi in teto and miku's outfits, hehe,,,
also have a nice nap!!!
nap over, i woke up once in the middle of it but was too comfy to fully stay awake and get online... it was a really good dream too, if only i could remember itnow that im reading the qna queue prompts......i would probably answer that those arent particularly strange requests to me! but i understand if they think they could be seen that way-- if its the thing with body positivity/neutrality i went on about then it was less a weirdness thing (and ultimately i felt more weird for being too invested in answering when it wasnt so serious for children having fun with whats just a joke for them to bond with) and its more that i wonder why things are written the way they are... to me, understanding the underlying perspectives and philosophies of people is one of the more interesting forms of love for people or fiction
i started rambling,,,, nothing is really that serious is it;;
additionally the more i say anything it probably would accidentally place pressure on things that didnt have to be talked about at all, so, that might be unfortunate too
for everyone: how was lunch? ^^ sip a lil bit of something for now if its been a while!!
dave: "ex is near-sighted. they have trouble reading or seeing things that are far away. glasses have helped them a ton! they're glad they have them. <3"Achromalia wrote:
for dave: oh!! um ok is ex near-sighted or far-sighted? how much have glasses helped, or have they not used any yet?
for expunged: have there been any specific places that soothe you during outings with dave? do you have any thoughts or feelings about that lake the other time, like... maybe sometimes you see yourself floating in it, or swimming, or maybe if it was more shallow then walking in it?qna queue:bambi: "hm... this may be a weird request, but could ya give me something about bandu bein' chonky? thanks."
bandu: "gimme something instrument related abt bambi!!"
ps!expunged: "uhm... this may be a strange request, but could you give me something about ps!bandu's little drooling thing? thank you."
ps!bandu: "give me something lab related about ps!expunged!! tysm ily <3"
always fun to find more for characters to play with ^^lostsilver wrote:
unrelated to qna and doodles, i found some goofy audio to make an animatic with, hehe,,,
expect that soon!!
bambi: "alright, so, one of my personal favorites about it is that he's a very round boi. like, lil man is PLUMP. i love it. it also made him a bit more ticklish, so bandu and i enjoy havin' little tickle fights sometimes."Achromalia wrote:
always fun to find more for characters to play with ^^lostsilver wrote:
unrelated to qna and doodles, i found some goofy audio to make an animatic with, hehe,,,
expect that soon!!
for bambi: a few fun things you and bandu enjoy about his chonkiness?
for bandu: what was the first thing he showed you about the guitar?qna queue:ps!expunged: "uhm... this may be a strange request, but could you give me something about ps!bandu's little drooling thing? thank you."
ps!bandu: "give me something lab related about ps!expunged!! tysm ily <3"
for everyone: had your food n water before bed?lostsilver wrote:
bambi: "alright, so, one of my personal favorites about it is that he's a very round boi. like, lil man is PLUMP. i love it. it also made him a bit more ticklish, so bandu and i enjoy havin' little tickle fights sometimes."
bandu: "well, since he's teaching me how to play it, he showed me how to start with the basic chords + tuning! learning it's proving to be a bit difficult for me, but it's okay!! i'm sure i'll get it someday ^^"
dave: "yep!"Achromalia wrote:
for everyone: had your food n water before bed?lostsilver wrote:
bambi: "alright, so, one of my personal favorites about it is that he's a very round boi. like, lil man is PLUMP. i love it. it also made him a bit more ticklish, so bandu and i enjoy havin' little tickle fights sometimes."
bandu: "well, since he's teaching me how to play it, he showed me how to start with the basic chords + tuning! learning it's proving to be a bit difficult for me, but it's okay!! i'm sure i'll get it someday ^^"
I don't see why notsametdze wrote:
i want to make a thread where i record myself taking quizzes requested by the people of OT, w idea or no
w idea i think, if im not too distracted i might look for quizzes to sendsametdze wrote:
i want to make a thread where i record myself taking quizzes requested by the people of OT, w idea or no
its happeningggg ^^lostsilver wrote:
progress on the dave and bambi as miku and teto thing is being made!!here ya'll go <3
and here it is with different expressions too!!
hi achro!!! i'm also gonna work on silly doodle-comics today, so be on the lookout for those too!! (oh!! the ashwood-cornbluffs and the ambwell-bandellos are eeady to continue the qna whenever you are! also, i may do like a little group-chat prompt with the ashwood-cornbluffs so you get to see how they type/write too!!)Achromalia wrote:
its happeningggg ^^lostsilver wrote:
progress on the dave and bambi as miku and teto thing is being made!!here ya'll go <3
and here it is with different expressions too!!
and good morning-ish!! i just woke up
waking up again;; welcome backkk o/lostsilver wrote:
i have returned <33
dave: "mhm! we had pasta for lunch."Achromalia wrote:
waking up again;; welcome backkk o/lostsilver wrote:
i have returned <33
for everyone: was lunch ok? hydration is important too ^^
for ps!expunged: what do you understand about the cause of ps!bandu's drooling? is it chemically different from that of natural chaos-god and/or human saliva?lostsilver wrote:
bambi: "alright, so, one of my personal favorites about it is that he's a very round boi. like, lil man is PLUMP. i love it. it also made him a bit more ticklish, so bandu and i enjoy havin' little tickle fights sometimes."
bandu: "well, since he's teaching me how to play it, he showed me how to start with the basic chords + tuning! learning it's proving to be a bit difficult for me, but it's okay!! i'm sure i'll get it someday ^^"
ps!bandu: "i hope so too... thank you... <3"Achromalia wrote:
mm... :( i hope so ps!bandu, good luck <3
ps!expunged: "i understand next to nothing about it other than the parasite was the cause. it doesn't seem chemically different from normal chaos god saliva. though, human saliva and chaos god saliva are different regardless."Achromalia wrote:
for ps!expunged: what do you understand about the cause of ps!bandu's drooling? is it chemically different from that of natural chaos-god and/or human saliva?
for ps!bandu: what's the most interesting thing to watch ps!ex do in seir lab? do you feel like you understand some of it? what other tasks would you like to help with?
dave: "give me something about expunged's origin form."Achromalia wrote:
for everyone: topic check? :O
bambi: "when i taught him how to play crooked teeth - zach bryan. it was one of the first acoustic songs i learned, and i taught him to play it. i helped him practice, and now he can play it pretty well! i'm proud of 'em."Achromalia wrote:
for bambi: what were some of bandu's proudest guitar moments for you?
for bandu: what were your favorite things to show bambi about your drum-playing?qna queue:dave: "give me something about expunged's origin form."
expunged: "uhm,,, give me something silly about mr. haywood pls ty"
ps!dave: "i don't know, just give me something goofy about cresswell and cornwall."
ps!bambi: "give me somethin' silly 'bout ambrose and haywood."
ps!expunged: "give me something about ps!bandu."
ps!bandu: "give me something about ps!expunged!!"
ps!dave: "i remember this one time when cornwall was making a corn related joke, and cresswell joined in on it. so, cornwall said 'why do you never tell secrets in a corn maze?' and cresswell replied with 'because the corn has ears.' and cornwall went 'exactly.' before the two started laughing. it was cute, hehe!"Achromalia wrote:
for ps!dave: a moment where the bambi duo were able to finish each other's sentences?
for ps!bambi: a moment where the dave duo were able to finish each other's sentences?qna queue:dave: "give me something about expunged's origin form."
expunged: "uhm,,, give me something silly about mr. haywood pls ty"
ps!expunged: "give me something about ps!bandu."
ps!bandu: "give me something about ps!expunged!!"
for everyone: dinner? water :>lostsilver wrote:
ps!dave: "i remember this one time when cornwall was making a corn related joke, and cresswell joined in on it. so, cornwall said 'why do you never tell secrets in a corn maze?' and cresswell replied with 'because the corn has ears.' and cornwall went 'exactly.' before the two started laughing. it was cute, hehe!"
ps!bambi: "so, there was this one time where ambrose said 'you know how ps!expunged really likes skeleton puns?' and haywood went 'yeah. i guess you could say se has a TON of fun with them!' then ps!expunged proceeded to bust out laughing. it was so goofy, lol."
dave: "we had cheeseburgers for dinner! we made some for the ps!au so they didn't have to worry about making dinner tonight. ^^"Achromalia wrote:
for everyone: dinner? water :>lostsilver wrote:
ps!dave: "i remember this one time when cornwall was making a corn related joke, and cresswell joined in on it. so, cornwall said 'why do you never tell secrets in a corn maze?' and cresswell replied with 'because the corn has ears.' and cornwall went 'exactly.' before the two started laughing. it was cute, hehe!"
ps!bambi: "so, there was this one time where ambrose said 'you know how ps!expunged really likes skeleton puns?' and haywood went 'yeah. i guess you could say se has a TON of fun with them!' then ps!expunged proceeded to bust out laughing. it was so goofy, lol."
yippee congrats ps!bandu ^^ im glad-- pfff bandu what lollostsilver wrote:
dave: "we had cheeseburgers for dinner! we made some for the ps!au so they didn't have to worry about making dinner tonight. ^^"
bambi: "mhm. we all had soda."
expunged: "hehe... also,, my hands are really shaky for some reason? uh,,, i mean sometimes they shake but wow why am i so shaky right now"
bandu, making direct eye-contact with ex: "your skeleton is ready to hatch :>"
ps!dave: "we appreciate the haywalls making dinner for us tonight."
ps!bambi: "mhm. ambrose and i had... quite a long day... we've been out all day running errands, so we're both pretty tired, heh."
ps!expunged: "i'm glad ps!bandu's eating again."
ps!bandu: "i feel better now than i did earlier today!!"
also!! with the goofy animatic, i plan on making something short with ex listening to bad romance ft dave, bambi and bandu hehe <33
expunged: "yeah... also i agree with you, what bandu--"Achromalia wrote:
yippee congrats ps!bandu ^^ im glad-- pfff bandu what lollostsilver wrote:
dave: "we had cheeseburgers for dinner! we made some for the ps!au so they didn't have to worry about making dinner tonight. ^^"
bambi: "mhm. we all had soda."
expunged: "hehe... also,, my hands are really shaky for some reason? uh,,, i mean sometimes they shake but wow why am i so shaky right now"
bandu, making direct eye-contact with ex: "your skeleton is ready to hatch :>"
ps!dave: "we appreciate the haywalls making dinner for us tonight."
ps!bambi: "mhm. ambrose and i had... quite a long day... we've been out all day running errands, so we're both pretty tired, heh."
ps!expunged: "i'm glad ps!bandu's eating again."
ps!bandu: "i feel better now than i did earlier today!!"
also!! with the goofy animatic, i plan on making something short with ex listening to bad romance ft dave, bambi and bandu hehe <33
sorry for ex, i get that sometimes, be careful with tremors :c
and the animatic with the fam seems sweet :>
im stealing this tysametdze wrote:
what do you call bruce wayne when he gets beaten up? bruised wayne.
when the moon is in the skyNicNock wrote:
what is your personal definition of night? is it when the sun goes below the horizon or just after a specific time? (or maybe some other thing?)
good morning guys!!lostsilver wrote:
Achromalia wrote:
yippee congrats ps!bandu ^^ im glad-- pfff bandu what lollostsilver wrote:
dave: "we had cheeseburgers for dinner! we made some for the ps!au so they didn't have to worry about making dinner tonight. ^^"
bambi: "mhm. we all had soda."
expunged: "hehe... also,, my hands are really shaky for some reason? uh,,, i mean sometimes they shake but wow why am i so shaky right now"
bandu, making direct eye-contact with ex: "your skeleton is ready to hatch :>"
ps!dave: "we appreciate the haywalls making dinner for us tonight."
ps!bambi: "mhm. ambrose and i had... quite a long day... we've been out all day running errands, so we're both pretty tired, heh."
ps!expunged: "i'm glad ps!bandu's eating again."
ps!bandu: "i feel better now than i did earlier today!!"
also!! with the goofy animatic, i plan on making something short with ex listening to bad romance ft dave, bambi and bandu hehe <33
sorry for ex, i get that sometimes, be careful with tremors :c
and the animatic with the fam seems sweet :>
expunged: "yeah... also i agree with you, what bandu--"
bandu: "what?? i heard kandi say it!!"
ps!expunged: "hehe."
ps!bandu: "ty!! and lostie's workin on one if the animatics right now!! hopefully she has it out before she falls asleep lol,, also i bet since i feel really good right now it's all gonna crash and burn in the middle of the night by making my body spasm HAHA--"
awww,,, fluffy birb,,, <33Achromalia wrote:
mmn... good morning...
dave: "i'm curious as to why they only have one eye in that form... but other than that, i enjoy cuddling with them and/or playing/running around with them in their origin form."Achromalia wrote:
for dave: what a feature of expunged's origin form that you're curious about? how do you like to spend time together with them when they're in this form?
for expunged: do you remember a moment where dave accidentally experienced a freudian slip while making conversation with you?qna queue:ps!expunged: "give me something about ps!bandu."
ps!bandu: "give me something about ps!expunged!!"
expunged: "yeah lol,,, also, lostie's working on that goofy animatic right now, so be on the lookout for it!!"Achromalia wrote:
not the name mix-up,,, x'))
but they do sound so similar!! so its kinda understandable lolll
dave: "we had grilled cheeses for lunch!"Achromalia wrote:
...i had another nap
for everyone: lunch & sips & stretch <3
i feel ok sharing ^^ some of them seem interestinggg...lostsilver wrote:
also, you don't have to reply but i'm a lil curious as to what you thought of the fears thing!lostsilver wrote:
dave: arachnophobia (fear of spiders)
bambi: none/unknown
expunged: hemophobia (fear of blood), autophobia (fear of being alone)
bandu: thanatophobia (fear of death), autophobia (fear of being alone)
ps!dave: none/unknown
ps!bambi: none/unknown
ps!expunged: agateophobia (fear of insanity), slight claustrophobia (fear of small or enclosed spaces)
ps!bandu: trypanophobia (fear of needles/injections), isolophobia (fear of isolation and/or solitude)
that's exactly what was running through my head when i gave the two that fear! they were too traumatized from being abandoned at such a young age that they can't fathom the fact that it would've happened again... but haywood and cornwall were happy to take the two in and keep them safe!! <3Achromalia wrote:
i feel ok sharing ^^ some of them seem interestinggg...lostsilver wrote:
also, you don't have to reply but i'm a lil curious as to what you thought of the fears thing!lostsilver wrote:
dave: arachnophobia (fear of spiders)
bambi: none/unknown
expunged: hemophobia (fear of blood), autophobia (fear of being alone)
bandu: thanatophobia (fear of death), autophobia (fear of being alone)
ps!dave: none/unknown
ps!bambi: none/unknown
ps!expunged: agateophobia (fear of insanity), slight claustrophobia (fear of small or enclosed spaces)
ps!bandu: trypanophobia (fear of needles/injections), isolophobia (fear of isolation and/or solitude)
what i say abt them is more like a headcanon of what could make sense in my heart if i was writing a lil bit abt them, all from how it felt like to be part of something with them over the past few months
im gonna do it piece by piece bc i have a lot of thoughts and love to ramble...
i hope reading it can be enjoyable enough to make it maybe worth it... <3autophobia:the ashbluffs being such close siblings for each other and feeling so attached to having someone they can trust and be safe with and share their love with, someone who wont reject them... i feel like some of it can be bigger bc of having such a terrible sad early childhood at the hands of the chaos god parents, where ex feels like the only presence of love they know and understand is that of little baby bandu, and where baby bandu relied a lot on his own older sibling to be his guardian and parent for a little while as his source of love and care and attention...
and when theyre abandoned and find themselves in the human world, they face that sudden extreme trauma of complete alienation from anything and everything except each other... the siblings realize they only have each other, that ultimately the only way to be ok is for them to not be alone bc they dont know who they are on their own at that time or what they can be if theyre alone without each other ;o;
so when the haywalls find them and pick them up, something interesting happens-- maybe it could be that this fear still exists, because although the new dads mean so much and have been so much for them now, the siblings still probably learn that all of this depends on there Being Someone There With Them And For Them... its just that its easier for them to bear, because they now feel like they are part of a loving and "whole" family. but everything from the past still hurts so much, and they dont look like they ever really learned to detach from the dads or each other at all... however, i think they can do a lot of things independently, its just that they might feel like they first have to feel reassured in trusting that everything will be ok, and that nothing will separate their family, and that nobody will be alone, before one of the siblings can move forward in doing something. but just because they can do something on their own... doesnt mean they dont still really really prefer to be with each other and with the dads, so theyre still very attached which can be both to their benefit and detriment :')
expunged: "that's exactly why i have the fear of blood. it kills me inside knowing how terrified and vulnerable i was when i was young, and now that i'm stronger and in a better headspace/spot in my life, i don't really have to face it anymore. seeing blood just... gives me that overwhelming sense of dread that being afraid of death or what may become of you in the future does. because of all the abuse i went through, there was alot of bloodshed that sparked my fear of it. but... yeah... at least i know it's okay to be somewhat vulnerable with bandu, mr. haywood and mr. cornwall. protecting bandu was the whole reason i was so hesitant about being around mr. haywood and mr. cornwall at first, but now i know that they were just trying to help. and now that they're in my life, i feel so much better <3"Achromalia wrote:
here is some more for the ashbluffs ^^hemophobia + thanatophobia:i dont have many thoughts on these tho(fortunately i was wrong lolll <3), they are both kinda common and although autophobia is sort of common too, i feel like its harder to take them as part of the story... but here is what i have for now!!
expunged is probably in a position where historically they have had to be sorta strong for bandu and for themself, and i think it could be possible that seeing their own blood could make them feel something related to the realization of how vulnerable they can be, and... maybe more concretely, they could have been old enough to very deeply remember seeing blood and associating it with bad bad times if their chaos god parents physically abused them :c
that mixture of vulnerability and trauma can feel like a dizzying swirling churning pit opening up in expunged's brain... and although a lot of people have very common and naturally-induced reactions to their own blood with zero childhood trauma, i think this would explain the fear a lot more
for bandu, i think the fear of death can be attached to a couple things... he is probably not as familiar with outright abuse, but he knows what it did to ex and he absorbed plenty of pain himself even if it could just be second-hand observation. more importantly, seeing ex vulnerable and stressed and abused in addition to their abandonment to the elements of earth, i think bandu could be feeling something like... a looming sense of doom about really dying for real but not knowing it intimately because of ex protecting them from thinking about it, where maybe ex would have been already familiar with it and maybe thought they would die-- to the extent that there wasnt really any fear anymore as long as they could protect bandu ;-;
because of this mixture of this obscure aura of dread from watching ex + being abandoned + being sheltered and protected from having to think about pain, there's this mystery to death that bandu might not really know how to face, so he might run away and refuse to think about it if at all possible as opposed to ex being very understanding of the concept and reality of it...
ps!expunged: "mhm. i do want to say something about the slight claustrophobia, though. it may not make sense, but the reason i have it is because of where i feel like i'm trapped in my own head sometimes. i just feels so small and crowded sometimes, and i just despise it... and the 'swallowed by something bigger than you' thing kind of also explains it. i sometimes feel like the overwhelming stress of over-working myself is swallowing me whole, giving me nothing but a small hole to sit in. it's just... something with me, i suppose... but anyways, thank you for your thoughts. (and i did end up making a vaccine, which i gave to everyone except ps!bandu and ps!kandi.)"Achromalia wrote:
now to consider the fears of the bandellos, starting with ps!expungedagateophobia + claustrophobia:hmmn...
i wonder how to articulate the impressions/intuitions i have abt it and those impressions/intuitions are kinda simple theyre just,, not easy to find words for even when they feel like they could make sense
ps!ex does seem like someone who would rely a lotttt on seir brain. with lots of pressure on seir mind, from things like a heavy heavy fixation on understanding organic and chemical compounds in seir labwork to treat-but-not-cure ps!bandu and spare zem from the harsher physical effects, and then the more general ethics/ideals of hoping to prevent the spread of the parasite's influence on other people or otherwise cure it for people who do not want anything to do with it... that is hard on the heart and heavy on the mind
it isnt just pressure tho-- se would probably also legitimately enjoy learning and thinking about what se would observe of the world around them... there is a curiosity in sem that probably feels very dependent on seir ability to think, and... i kinda relate to the fear of losing yourself or your ability to think and perceive things correctly/accurately, being unable to trust my own thoughts/feelings/impressions/intuitions, not knowing if anything i interpreted would even be remotely close to reality
i dont fear small spaces generally but im sure some more-specific small spaces could be really awful like cave-diving or something... i don't really know what this means for ps!ex, and i genuinely cant imagine what it might relate to if anything-- maybe it just exists as a result of feeling swallowed up and suffocated by things bigger than you with only smaller and tighter areas left to exist in... maybe if there's something, claustrophobia could connect to that pressure...