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Kukui - Kamp

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Lef
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 16 marca 2009 at 20:03:57

Artist: Kukui
Title: Kamp
Source: Rozen Madien OST
Tags: Rozen Maiden Traumend kukui Kamp
BPM: 136
Filesize: 15720kb
Play Time: 02:07
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (3,24 stars, 148 notes)
  2. Insane (4,99 stars, 248 notes)
  3. Normal (1,89 stars, 118 notes)
Download: Kukui - Kamp
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The song is from Rozen Maiden OST. My third upped beatmap.

Moved from Beatmap Help to Pending.

Updated by Cyclone's timings ^^

*Edited a little for better multiplayer Tag play. (Gray notes O.o )
*Edited insane to make it harder...
*More skin editing, custom sounds added (all from template... sadly...)
*Again more skin editing...
*Done SFG modding ^^
*Deleted some sounds and some skin parts that was looking not good...
*Forgot to delete 1 sound, fixed now
*Fixed combo colours
*Done Mogsworth modding on Normal and Hard
*Insane modding now done too
*m980 modding done
*Mogsworth and Mafiamaster modding done ^^
Last edited by Lef , edited 33 times in total.
Cyclone
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Cyclone
I'll get more into modding this later if you want me to.

Timing:
136.000 BPM
3,720 Offset

You can probably get away with easy/normal/hard/insane, even if it is on the easier side of it all.
Lef
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Lef
Changed timing as Cyclone said ;)

If you have time, then of course i want you to mod it :D
Yuukari-Banteki
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Yuukari-Banteki
[Easy]
01:41:66 (3) - hidden by previous slider
01:48:72 (3) - ditto
01:55:77 (3) - also hidden, but this might be legal? im not sure

[Normal]
why is this the EXACT same as [Easy]? fix plz

[Hard]
00:49:60 (4) - overdoing it a little, imo
01:03:72 (2) - same, and what i mean is...could you make the slider a bit longer and repeat less? not required but its kinda ugly
01:16:07 (1) - ditto
01:19:60 (1) - ditto
01:23:13 (7) - ditto
01:53:13 (1) - ditto
02:03:71 (1,2) - not only a short repeat but a last note hidden. if you fix nothing else, fix this :(
02:07:24 (1) - and again

[Insane]
00:20:04 (1,2) - somewhat confusing, your choice though
00:42:54 (5) - differentiate head from tail more
00:49:60 (7) - i dislike this. maybe take out some of the clapping would help...
01:31:95 (1,1) - this is a bit of a long gap considering drain rate - you loose like 1/4 of your healthbar
01:54:01 (2) - the end of this is hidden by the previous slider
02:07:24 (1) - another one of the tiny repeats i dislike :3 your choice still tho


cool patterns, i like the way this map is shaping up~
Lef
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Lef
[Easy]
01:41:66 (3) - hidden by previous slider
01:48:72 (3) - ditto
01:55:77 (3) - also hidden, but this might be legal? im not sure
Im think its a little nazi, but i think its ok, because its "Easy" ;)
*fixed

[Normal]
why is this the EXACT same as [Easy]? fix plz
Wth? :? Wait... You're right :oops: I wasn't copy-paste nowhere so how do i done this? :P
*fixed

[Hard]
00:49:60 (4) - overdoing it a little, imo
01:03:72 (2) - same, and what i mean is...could you make the slider a bit longer and repeat less? not required but its kinda ugly
01:16:07 (1) - ditto
01:19:60 (1) - ditto
01:23:13 (7) - ditto
01:53:13 (1) - ditto
02:03:71 (1,2) - not only a short repeat but a last note hidden. if you fix nothing else, fix this
02:07:24 (1) - and again
*fixed, but i worry about last slider shape. I dont know if its prohibited or not :? Can somebody check it?

[Insane]
00:20:04 (1,2) - somewhat confusing, your choice though
00:42:54 (5) - differentiate head from tail more
00:49:60 (7) - i dislike this. maybe take out some of the clapping would help...
01:31:95 (1,1) - this is a bit of a long gap considering drain rate - you loose like 1/4 of your healthbar
01:54:01 (2) - the end of this is hidden by the previous slider
02:07:24 (1) - another one of the tiny repeats i dislike :3 your choice still tho
*fixed - last slider changed to 1 longer stack :P
ps.
01:54:01 (2) - the end of this is hidden by the previous slider
How did it turn up like this? :? I was using Distance Snapping and i dont know how i done it like this... Anyway its fixed now.
Edit:
I almost forgot, thx for modding :D I was waiting long time for anybody to check it...
foulcoon
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foulcoon
Let me first start off by saying I hate this skin, it looks and SOUNDS pretty bad... The blue combo color doesn't really help either. If you insist on keeping the skin, change the Insane combo colors to the colors in Normal.

[Easy/Normal]
You've acknowledged the fact that these 2 difficulties are identical, now delete one of them and re-submit please.


And for some reason at a certain part in the first half, when i play this in test my osu! crashes, go figure... i'll have to check this later but for what I can see in play mode this deserves a star.
Lef
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Lef
Edited, deleted, changed...

Maybe these crashes was because of video? I can use diffirent codecs and upload again if needed :?
Mogsy
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Lef
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Lef
Normal and Hard changes done :D
Mogsy
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Lef
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Lef
Done.
But here:

Mogsworth wrote:

Insane:
-01:29:30 (4) - Line up the starting point with 3.
It was already lined up but it was looking really wierd (optical illusion? :? ) so i decided to change slider direction.
Lef
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Lef
Bump... Still need more modding here...
m980
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Normal
00:27:98 (4) - Move this up just a tad bit. (1 level 3 grid)

Hard
00:16:95 (2,3) - Move these down just a tad bit..
01:21:80 (4) - Move this left just a tad bit..

Insane
00:23:13 (2) - A tad bit to the left.


I could hardly find anything wrong with this. So I just posted tiny level 3 grid movement things.

Yeah also.. The Spinner is abit ?.
Lef
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Lef
Modding done. Waiting for some more stars\bubbles etc. ;)

EDIT:
If the spinner still not looks right i leave template :P
Lef
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Lef
Bump. Nobody really want to look at my map? :( You take all my mapping motivation :cry:
Mogsy
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Lef
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Lef
Done, lined up perfectly (i think :? ).
Mafiamaster
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Lef
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Lef
Done (why i didn't see it before?) :)
I hope its get ranked too :P
Mafiamaster
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Nooo! What happened to your bubble D:
I didn't bring this up before but sometimes the video just stops during gameplay, either it stops at 00:28:42 on Suigin Tou's face, or Suigin Tou lying on the ground in half at 01:01:83.
So...
An avi/xvid video for you! -0.4 MB than original. :) Save some space.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=69NFV48G

And a Priority Star for you. Not much I can do except that.
Hope it gets more attention/ranked some day.
Lef
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Lef
Thank you for star MM :) I will also use video you provided. I didn't decoded it myself because nobody said there are some problems with it. I really appreciate your help (and its really cheers me up :P ). So, thanks for help :)
cesc
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Mogsy
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Pasonia
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Sorry for the popped bubble! ^_^;

I'm going to mod but not rank this unless I'm absolutely sure of myself. Sorry =p
Also - these are purely suggestions.

Generally speaking - I think you might wanna put a break in every wide-enough space (i.e. 3 beats) but it's okay to not do so. All italic parts are suggestions and are up to your own personal discretion, but I do want you to try them out anyway and see if it suits your taste.

Normal

02:09:45 (1) - Yea, it's the last spinner but imo this is unnecessary. I know what you're mapping to but by the time of the start of this spinner the music is too insignificant (right descriptive? =x) to warrant the presence of the spinner.

Hard

02:07:24 (1,1) - Same as above, except that in this case, what I was thinking is to delete both objects and put a spinner starting from where the last slider is, and ending at where the previous spinner starts.

Insane

00:54:01 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - My suggestion - un-whistle all of these and then listen to the whole stretch. Maybe even give 11 a Finish, but that's me being crazy.
01:00:41 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) - For the first two of the combos of 3, un-whistle.
02:07:24 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - I so don't like this chain. Maybe it's me getting hit by deathstream syndrome, but... no, no way. Personally, if I were ingame and touching this for the first time, I won't be able to tell how many times I gotta click this at first glance. Maybe you should rearrange this.
Lef
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Lef

Pasonia wrote:

Sorry for the popped bubble! ^_^;

I'm going to mod but not rank this unless I'm absolutely sure of myself. Sorry =p
Also - these are purely suggestions.
So, it looks like ranking the song is more like mods suggestions than mappers choice nowadays? :| Ok... I think I can agree with that... I have no choice, right?...

Pasonia wrote:

Normal

02:09:45 (1) - Yea, it's the last spinner but imo this is unnecessary. I know what you're mapping to but by the time of the start of this spinner the music is too insignificant (right descriptive? =x) to warrant the presence of the spinner.
Hmmm... I think song must have some moment when you are SURE that song will end here. And it was end. And i can agree music is not cooperate with it etc. But look at the end of of last notes\sliders. You really want to end it here? :? I can change it if I need to.

Pasonia wrote:

Hard

02:07:24 (1,1) - Same as above, except that in this case, what I was thinking is to delete both objects and put a spinner starting from where the last slider is, and ending at where the previous spinner starts.
So, same as above, but i like it a little more. I can agree with that.

Pasonia wrote:

Insane

00:54:01 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - My suggestion - un-whistle all of these and then listen to the whole stretch. Maybe even give 11 a Finish, but that's me being crazy.
01:00:41 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) - For the first two of the combos of 3, un-whistle.
02:07:24 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - I so don't like this chain. Maybe it's me getting hit by deathstream syndrome, but... no, no way. Personally, if I were ingame and touching this for the first time, I won't be able to tell how many times I gotta click this at first glance. Maybe you should rearrange this.
00:54:01 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - I like it more like it is. But ok.
01:00:41 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Ok.
02:07:24 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - ok, changed.

EDIT:
Im really sorry for what i wrote here before. I was tired (wasnt sleeping ~30hrs) and i wrote some stupid shit that ill regret it now. Im sorry about this :cry:
Last edited by Lef , edited 1 time in total.
peppy
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SeymourLyon wrote:

I think killing Bubble with Star just because you dont like hitsounds and deathstream is a little punishing. If you tell me that I must add these changes, ill do it. But then I will never edit it again. It can be even graveyarded and ill do nothing with it because i have enough of it. I dont want to be rude. If i am then sorry. :| I know you want to help but STAR? :o I posted it ~4 months ago. And most players will even not remember this map after ~1-10 tries.
Seymour, you need to understand this: We moderate maps for a purpose. That's to keep the standard of quality high. Therefore bubbles are popped ASAP to ensure maps aren't ranked when they could still be improved. Don't take offense from this move. If you feel the points brought up are incorrect or cramping your style, then say that, but don't complain about the popping of your bubble. Your map is already high priority - it will get ranked eventually.
Lef
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Lef
Yes peppy, I undarstand what you wrote here but it was really worth it? I just think those changes was a little unnecessary here (i just dont like most of them). I dont complain about BATs or their modding and I dont wanted to be rude etc. I think i really was too harsh (and im sorry for that :| ) here but this map wasnt got any attention before for really long time. I got nervous about that (maybe a bad day :( ). Sorry for this again and I really want Pasonia forgive me about this.
Mafiamaster
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Mafiamaster

SeymourLyon wrote:

Sorry for this again and I really want Pasonia forgive me about this.
It's ok, and I'm sure Pasonia already has. He's not really one to hold grudges / Or not even worried about it.

And again. I hope this gets ranked soon. ;)

Yeah, this is pretty much a worthless post, right -_-

Oh look!
Insane~
00:23:57 (3) - Move over to the right a tick with Grid Level 3.

Normal~
00:27:54 (3) - Move this up a tick so it's spaced evenly with 1 and 2.

Some suggestions for Insane~
01:53:13 (1,2) - Maybe move 1 to the right so it's on that white line on the grid.
Mogsy
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All difficulties: Offset +15...I think. I could use another mod's view on this.
Lef
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Lef
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minyeob
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minyeob
Spinner Suggestion~
[Normal]
2:09:45(1)-> Extend the length by 1/2.

[Hard]
2:07:24(1)-> Shorten the length by 1/2.

[Insane]
2:09:45(1)-> Extend the length by 1/2.

+1 SP~
Lef
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Lef

minyeob wrote:

Spinner Suggestion~
[Normal]
2:09:45(1)-> Extend the length by 1/2.

[Hard]
2:07:24(1)-> Shorten the length by 1/2.

[Insane]
2:09:45(1)-> Extend the length by 1/2.

+1 SP~
Hmmm... Its sounds quite better but i think if ill extend\shorten these spinners only by 1/4 its sounds a little better ;) If somebody says its sound better with 1/2 ill change it :D Thx for help :)
SteRRuM
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SteRRuM
:D
[Insane]
02:09:02 (1) - should finish at 02:13:882
[Hard]
02:07:26 (1) - should finish at 02:08:808
[Normal]
02:09:47 (1) - should finish at 02:13:882

Great beatmap Lyon! I'am giving it a star! :D
Mogsy
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Fix the video offset to match the new offset so it's synced again.

Insane:
-01:00:42 (2) - New Combo mark goes here.
-02:09:02 (1) - Extend by 1/8.

Hard:
-00:14:76 (3) - This doesn't look properly aligned with 1 to me.
-00:26:23 (4) - Make this symmetrical.
-00:35:05 (3) - ^
-00:49:61 (4) - ^
-01:45:20 (2) - Realign on the endpoint of 1.
-02:07:26 (1) - Shorten by 1/4 a beat, add a Finish.
Lef
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Mogsy
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Hard:
01:48:73 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark.

Last change, I swear.

EDIT:
Also, set the preview at 00:46:087.
Lef
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Done. Also i changed preview offset but it dont wanna work :? I need to make Full Submission to get this work?
Mogsy
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Did you set it to all difficulties? Save once you change it.

Also, I lied before, use 01:12:558 for the preview.
Lef
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Mogsworth wrote:

Did you set it to all difficulties? Save once you change it.
Did like u wrote, still dont work. :( Full Submit then?
Mogsy
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SeymourLyon wrote:

Mogsworth wrote:

Did you set it to all difficulties? Save once you change it.
Did like u wrote, still dont work. :( Full Submit then?
Wouldn't hurt to try.
Lef
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Lef
Tried already, still dont work. Maybe its not working just for me? Somebody else can try?
Mafiamaster
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Worked for me when I redownloaded it.
Preview point is at 01:12:558 as suggested from Mogsworth.
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Seibei4211
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I guess the timing works and I guess that spinner end is the best it can be... Hm... The hit sounds can be meh, but overall they're not bad. So whatevs. Weird song. Kinda cool though.
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:lol: i like this map too >o<
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