How about just not give a shit lol. If they cheat and wanna come back its not hard to make another account. Your never gonna stop cheaters.
may i say that you're missing the point. it's not the account, it's the person. even if you kept one account legit and didn't cheat you still cheated on another account.asdasdasd654456 wrote:
why can't i have one? I already agreed to reset my main account even being legit, thats only for main account cheaters right? I sereasly ask peppy to check my case again..
^Sakura Hana wrote:
The point is that you're not allowed to cheat on any account.
the online identity part i don't know.ziin wrote:
that's actually what cheaters want
What cheaters want is attention. All this "second chance" crap is attention they don't deserve. Ban attention is enough to minimize damage at low time cost. There is no way to deal with cheaters without giving them attention, other than automating the system (which is insecure).
Just change your passwords on your accounts to jibberish that you won't remember, get a new throwaway email, change your IP address and get a new identity. This is impossible to stop. Why are people so attached to an online identity anyway?
True. we can't stop them. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try though, what, are we just gonna let them go around being unfair to the other players?SilentKiller wrote:
How about just not give a shit lol. If they cheat and wanna come back its not hard to make another account. Your never gonna stop cheaters.
Ok. in theory, option 3 works, but again, they'll just multiaccount. as i said earlier, cheaters want attention. And although being able to go get a score using a cheat while in their account, they can't really show it off and get attention, either no one would pay attention to him since his score isn't submitted anyway, or becasue they know he cheated. cheaters might multiaccount again to get around this.peppy wrote:
When I am talking "account access", I mean letting the user login to chat/forums. We still keep access to the account and have all relevant data, so it wouldn't change how easy it is to track people.
I was about to say this, but I just had to read the whole thread before posting. Good thing I'm not the only one.palion wrote:
mac spoofing is beyond easyXK2238 wrote:
MAC ban is enough I think, people will have to buy a whole new PC to continue cheating, which is very fund-draining, and they won't be brave to cheat anymore. \o/
(Voted for permanent ban)
Winshley wrote:
(I'm also hoping that peppy can find a way to detect Flashlight cheatings. )
Winshley wrote:
(I'm also hoping that peppy can find a way to detect Flashlight cheatings. Perhaps with some unique algorithms applied to the Flashlight mod)
It does. The fact you don't know it's there means it's doing a good job; it should not interfere with normal users at all.navy0333 wrote:
i think osu! should have a antihacking system...... like other online games.....
^GladiOol wrote:
Score reset, depending on the intensity of cheating.
If it's a new account, made just for the heck of cheating, permanently ban it of course.
If it's a player who's been here for quite a while and cheats on 1 or a few maps, score reset him but keep his account.
If he'll cheat on like 10+ maps, then I'd suggest an account ban as well.
If he'll cheat on like 10+ maps, then I'd suggest an account ban as well.It would be the best way after some Resets to ban.
Bittersweet wrote:
He/she/it should get the worst punishment possible.
hillaryzx wrote:
Permanent ban should be enough for real cheaters....
Dis guy.Drafura wrote:
Permanent BAN account, IP and MAC address.
fix'dmeiikyuu wrote:
ban da hakers plz
eldnl wrote:
Ask to the comunity (people who know him) if they are really nice guys and deserve a second chance. But for totally shameless guys must be a permanent BAN.
I can't see the problem with that.palion wrote:
eldnl wrote:
Ask to the comunity (people who know him) if they are really nice guys and deserve a second chance. But for totally shameless guys must be a permanent BAN.
too subjective
"Hey, this friend of mine can prove I didn't really cheat!eldnl wrote:
I can't see the problem with that.palion wrote:
too subjective
Two thingseldnl wrote:
I can't see the problem with that.palion wrote:
too subjective
"Really nice guys" don't cheat.eldnl wrote:
Ask to the comunity (people who know him) if they are really nice guys and deserve a second chance. But for totally shameless guys must be a permanent BAN.
peppy wrote:
To me, being beneficial to the community doesn't make any difference if they are doing harm secretly. Instant negation of any positive in my eyes.
then you lock her up in the basement and never let her see another man.Soly wrote:
Exactly, it's like your wife cheating on you.peppy wrote:
To me, being beneficial to the community doesn't make any difference if they are doing harm secretly. Instant negation of any positive in my eyes.
But they cheat. Their statistics are already enhanced.kriers wrote:
considering those players who'd like a score reset in order to improve statistics.
I think he's saying they don't cheat but want their stats reset from their bad play style so then they cheat to get that goal accomplished indirectly.Sinistro wrote:
But they cheat. Their statistics are already enhanced.kriers wrote:
considering those players who'd like a score reset in order to improve statistics.
god I did that all the time...Papi Bear ROCKS wrote:
cheating in osu! (or any other games) is like cheating in class :p
Well that is true...Sakura Hana wrote:
I voted permaban, because well, every other game out there, cheating is a permanent ban so, why the hell would we be more lenient than that.
It isn't, I've played other games that the bans are like 1 month, 2 month 6 month or something like that depending on the cheat xDBeatofIke wrote:
Well that is true...Sakura Hana wrote:
I voted permaban, because well, every other game out there, cheating is a permanent ban so, why the hell would we be more lenient than that.
Yeah because sending a list of open processes and window names is a anti cheat lol. But to be real the worst thing you gonna get on this game is more than likely the flash light issue. Its not popular enough for someone to even bother messing with.peppy wrote:
Winshley wrote:
(I'm also hoping that peppy can find a way to detect Flashlight cheatings. Perhaps with some unique algorithms applied to the Flashlight mod)It does. The fact you don't know it's there means it's doing a good job; it should not interfere with normal users at all.navy0333 wrote:
i think osu! should have a antihacking system...... like other online games.....
SilentKiller wrote:
Yeah because sending a list of open processes and window names is a anti cheat lol. But to be real the worst thing you gonna get on this game is more than likely the flash light issue. Its not popular enough for someone to even bother messing with.
I laughed so hard at this....palion wrote:
SilentKiller wrote:
Yeah because sending a list of open processes and window names is a anti cheat lol. But to be real the worst thing you gonna get on this game is more than likely the flash light issue. Its not popular enough for someone to even bother messing with.
osu probably md5s dlls for a hashcheck (based off seeing osu!.cfg)
anyway, I think permanent ban is ineffective against cheaters because they can easily re-register and provokes cheaters to hack more; the 3rd option is probably the best option here
Ah i see. Nvm then.eldnl wrote:
It isn't, I've played other games that the bans are like 1 month, 2 month 6 month or something like that depending on the cheat xD
Fact: downloading otherwise private info (such as process lists and window/application data like osu! does without any end user consent is very much illegal, here in the UK at least.SilentKiller wrote:
Yeah because sending a list of open processes and window names is a anti cheat lol. But to be real the worst thing you gonna get on this game is more than likely the flash light issue. Its not popular enough for someone to even bother messing with.
if you know it, and yet u still play, it means u are consenting.Ijah wrote:
Fact: downloading otherwise private info (such as process lists and window/application data like osu! does without any end user consent is very much illegal, here in the UK at least.SilentKiller wrote:
Yeah because sending a list of open processes and window names is a anti cheat lol. But to be real the worst thing you gonna get on this game is more than likely the flash light issue. Its not popular enough for someone to even bother messing with.
Its not public info. I`ve posted it before in the forums and it was removed very swiftly I might add. I dont see why there was such an issue with it if the information was being used correctly.Ijah wrote:
Fact: downloading otherwise private info (such as process lists and window/application data like osu! does without any end user consent is very much illegal, here in the UK at least.SilentKiller wrote:
Yeah because sending a list of open processes and window names is a anti cheat lol. But to be real the worst thing you gonna get on this game is more than likely the flash light issue. Its not popular enough for someone to even bother messing with.
well how botu friendok impersonating my account doing my account from halo398 into halo 398 eh?Ijah wrote:
Fact: downloading otherwise private info (such as process lists and window/application data like osu! does without any end user consent is very much illegal, here in the UK at least.SilentKiller wrote:
Yeah because sending a list of open processes and window names is a anti cheat lol. But to be real the worst thing you gonna get on this game is more than likely the flash light issue. Its not popular enough for someone to even bother messing with.
Pandemoniusz wrote:
I think cheaters should be nailed to the swastika.
You'll probably be safe from being considered a cheater or anything of the like then.Rock Forever wrote:
what is a cheater?, I say because I dont wanna accidentally do something that I regret later. XD
They are not so many cheaters out. If it's clearly to see that they cheat, they get banned as soon as possible.Hawkii wrote:
Still, it would be hard to ban all the Hackers and Multi-Accounts out there
Sounds interesting. They can be labeled the same way as banned users before, who had a sign under their user picture saying that they're banned.loldcraft wrote:
Third offenders need to have cheater labeled clearly on their profile page, from then on they are free to cheat for all they care.
Because i'm bored.[Luanny] wrote:
why are you ressurecting this dino-topic?
Epic Words xD[Luanny] wrote:
why are you ressurecting this dino-topic?
wutKunieda wrote:
I HATE cheaters…
Some cheaters are using hack program or cheat engine, I hope Peppy will fix it cause too many bugs… so far, peppy will do this.