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Black∞Hole - Pluto

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Snow Note
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Snow Note
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2012年9月16日 at 下午 10:43:26

Artist: Black Hole
Title: Pluto
Source: Dance Dance Revolution SuperNOVA 2
Tags: Supernova Beat Ex DDRSN2 Bemani Konami CS Beatmania IIDX 15 DJ Troopers NAOKI MAEDA
BPM: 100
Filesize: 3187kb
Play Time: 01:39
Difficulties Available:
  1. Basic (4.16 stars, 154 notes)
  2. Beginner (1.35 stars, 83 notes)
  3. Challenge (5 stars, 428 notes)
  4. Difficult (4.7 stars, 296 notes)
  5. Expert (4.92 stars, 400 notes)
Download: Black Hole - Pluto
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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BPM: 50 ~ 270
#12:
Dance Dance Revolution SuperNOVA 2 Boss Song:
Black∞Hole - Pluto

Note:
Please redownload if you download Before 1/6 (Added New BG)
This map is map in BPM:50~270 with many BPM change,that is why this map is hard.
White Slider=Speed Down
Sudden BPM Change!(It is Beatmania IIDX official Timing)
Beatmania IIDX's Pluto Video



Map set:
Download dialgadu77's Taiko Oni!
Beginner - Me
Basic - Me
Difficult - Me
Expert - Me
Challenge - Me

18/2 Submit Beatmap.
27/3 Move to Pending!
16/9 Last Update.


(Added on 13/5)
Last edited by Snow Note , edited 122 times in total.
fanzhen0019
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
1,723 posts
Joined July 2010
fanzhen0019
nice

edit：1st try on itouch..
SPOILER

好随意的节奏 像2MB的曲子..
想做..但是没时间QAQ
Snow Note
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Snow Note

fanzhen0019 wrote:

nice

edit：1st try on itouch..
SPOILER
[attachment=0:196fa]IMG_2897.PNG[/attachment:196fa]

好随意的节奏 像2MB的曲子..
想做..但是没时间QAQ
瞎了你這麼強大,果然這不是最難的難度...
Challenge會是那個Mapper作呢? Challenge我做了! :D

PS:Thank You for Star!
Last edited by Snow Note , edited 1 time in total.
jossieP
1,875 posts
Joined May 2010
jossieP
hello, late timing check here
1st timeline
BPM: 50,000 (Current)
Offset: 115 (+5 on current)

2nd timeline
BPM: 220,000 (Current)
Offset: 9705 (-4 on current)

3rd timeline
BPM: 230,000 (Current)
Offset: 18431 (-5 on current)

4th timeline
BPM: 240,000 (Current)
Offset: 26775 (-8 on current)

5th timeline
BPM: 230,000 (Current)
Offset: 32776 (-7 on current)

6th timeline
BPM: 50,000 (Current)
Offset: 39043 (Current)

7th timeline
BPM: 200,000 (Current)
Offset: 41436 (-7 on current)

8th timeline
BPM: 220,000 (Current)
Offset: 48630 (-13 on current)

9th timeline
BPM: 50,000 (Current)
Offset: 58457 (-4 on current)

10th timeline
BPM: 220,000 (Current)
Offset: 68050 (-11 on current)

11th timeline
BPM: 240,000 (Current)
Offset: 82230 (-12 on current)

12th timeline
BPM: 250,000 (Current)
Offset: 86235 (-7 on current)

13th timeline
BPM: 260,000 (Current)
Offset: 90077 ( -5 on current)

14th timeline
BPM: 270,000 (Current)
Offset: 93995 (-10 on current)

the las two 270 BPM timeilnes are not necesary

00:43:537 (4,1) - two objects at the same time <_<
Snow Note
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Topic Starter
Snow Note
@ikari_kyon
Thank for timing~
Lan-wing
Lan-wing
卧槽
fanzhen0019
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
1,723 posts
Joined July 2010
fanzhen0019
FOR EDIT

Download: Black Hole - Pluto (7odoa) [TEST].osu
Loneight
osu! Alumni
1,332 posts
Joined January 2011
Loneight
Request from Your friendship is mutual.
以下只是建議~不喜歡可以略過 OAO

[Beginner]

  1. 01:30:077 (1) - 紅點往下3格?

[Basic]

  1. 沒問題~

[Difficult]

  1. 00:58:456 (4) - NC?!

[Expert]

  1. 沒問題~

[Challenge]

  1. 沒問題~
對不起...圖太完美 我這新手找不出什麼可以建議的 lol
後面兩個難度有點2...XD
Snow Note
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Snow Note

l1106188 wrote:

Request from Your friendship is mutual.
以下只是建議~不喜歡可以略過 OAO

[Beginner]

  1. 01:30:077 (1) - 紅點往下3格? :arrow: Ok~

[Basic]

  1. 沒問題~

[Difficult]

  1. 00:58:456 (4) - NC?! :arrow: Ok~

[Expert]

  1. 沒問題~

[Challenge]

  1. 沒問題~
對不起...圖太完美 我這新手找不出什麼可以建議的 lol
後面兩個難度有點2...XD
謝謝MOD和STAR! :)
Leorda
4,416 posts
Joined June 2009
Leorda
[General]
* According to AIBat, there is some inconsistent red timing in this map. You might want to make it consistent on each diff


[Beginner]
01:03:256 (1) - This slider are too slow for beginners. But I'm not sure if this was beginner-friendly or not. Perhaps replace with spinner for beginner-friendly?


[Basic]
00:17:612 (3) - The tail slider is almost offscreen (just a warning)
01:00:856 (1) - Overlapped by hitbursts, so the players can't tell which next
01:08:056 (1) - This spinner is too short for normal diff (just a warning)

[Expert]
00:16:521 (2) - The tail slider is touch the HP Bar (just a warning)
01:00:856 (1) - Overlapped by hitbursts, so the players can't tell which next (just a warning)
01:09:146 (1) - This slider is hidden because it's overlapped by hitbursts and spinner-osu


That's all I can find, sorry
Charles445
Elite Mapper II: Aspirant / osu! Paragon
2,881 posts
Joined March 2009
Charles445
Your HP drain on Challenge and Expert are way too high. This map is really really really fast paced, so the difficulty should be in the execution, NOT in the drain. I recommend lowering HP by either -1 or -2 on both the difficulties.
Snow Note
920 posts
Joined January 2011
Topic Starter
Snow Note

Leorda wrote:

[General]
* According to AIBat, there is some inconsistent red timing in this map. You might want to make it consistent on each diff :arrow: Where?


[Beginner]
01:03:256 (1) - This slider are too slow for beginners. But I'm not sure if this was beginner-friendly or not. Perhaps replace with spinner for beginner-friendly? :arrow: ok~


[Basic]
00:17:612 (3) - The tail slider is almost offscreen (just a warning) :arrow: Fixed!
01:00:856 (1) - Overlapped by hitbursts, so the players can't tell which next :arrow: Fixed!
01:08:056 (1) - This spinner is too short for normal diff (just a warning) :arrow: Fixed!

[Expert]
00:16:521 (2) - The tail slider is touch the HP Bar (just a warning) :arrow: I think it is okay...
01:00:856 (1) - Overlapped by hitbursts, so the players can't tell which next (just a warning) :arrow: ^
01:09:146 (1) - This slider is hidden because it's overlapped by hitbursts and spinner-osu :arrow: Fixed!


That's all I can find, sorry
Thank for Mod!

Charles445 wrote:

Your HP drain on Challenge and Expert are way too high. This map is really really really fast paced, so the difficulty should be in the execution, NOT in the drain. I recommend lowering HP by either -1 or -2 on both the difficulties.
I think it is easy to fail too,so HP-1 at [Expert]&[Challenge]~ :D
AoiX
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AoiX
Request from Queue

Aoi's Mod

:!:default=suggestion||bold=notice||red+bold=unrankable
[General]
  1. 虽然按你说是官方设定，但几个滑条用红线来改变滑条速度是不能rank的
  2. 太反人类了还是考虑进APP吧T_T
[Expert]
00:48:038 (3) - NC

[Basic]
01:34:000 (1,2) - 基础难度不建议用1/2
Snow Note
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Snow Note

AoiX wrote:

Request from Queue

Aoi's Mod

:!:default=suggestion||bold=notice||red+bold=unrankable
[General]
  1. 虽然按你说是官方设定，但几个滑条用红线来改变滑条速度是不能rank的 :arrow: 這是歌曲的原設定,看看原譜便知道了
  2. 太反人类了还是考虑进APP吧T_T :arrow: 長度不足4:30,分數不足18,000,000 ,所以不會APP了.
[Expert]
00:48:038 (3) - NC :arrow: Ok~

[Basic]
01:34:000 (1,2) - 基础难度不建议用1/2 :arrow: 這是normal,用少量的沒問題
謝謝MOD!
[Luxord]
503 posts
Joined August 2011
[Luxord]
Hello there! Mod request from My Queue

Your maps are awesome! :3 Previous mods fixed the timing as I see so there's nothing wrong left and I like it :3 good luck ranking it~ :D You got a Star by me ^^

Regards~ :3
Flask
Beatmap Nominator
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Flask
Request From CLANNAD Mod queue ~

您好 7odoa 大 >< 以下只是建議 什麼Unrankble的我就 ... orz ~


Beginner

00:00:104 ~ 00:07:304 (1,2,3,4) - 這四顆間距可以再大一點 即使是Easy 的 Diff ~

00:12:976 (4,1) - 這兩個滑條節奏不對 , 可能要跟白線對齊


00:22:995 (1) - 這裡移到 00:22:865 , 並且延長到白線

00:56:954 (2) - 移到 00:56:818 , 並且延長到白線

01:34:111 (1) - 意思和^差不多 就是移到前面那條白線 長度在延長到後面那條白線

Basic

00:37:473 (3,4) - 這邊的節奏跟著前面打就好了 , 別任意更改

Difficult

01:36:887 (1,2) - 這兩個變速的意義為何 ? 用短滑條吧

Challenge

Diff name 改成 Challenging ?

Sorry , I can't mod anymore >A<




Source 應該是 Dance Dance Revolution Supernova 2


GL ~
Regou
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Regou
哇神圖啊
[CSGA]Ar3sgice
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Joined July 2011
[CSGA]Ar3sgice
from my queue

这真心神图... T_T


Challenge

  1. 前面一段音量不要这么高吧.. 95%太高了
  2. ...这是什么 好可怕T.T
  3. 00:48:910 (2) - ctrl+r吧 因为都是一个方向 就这一个不一样
  4. 01:38:220 (2,3) - new combo
Expert

  1. 00:17:749 (4) - 放到x:204 y:124
  2. 00:28:778 (1) - 这里new combo下一个去掉, 这样的pattern颜色不同有点奇怪
Difficult

  1. 00:20:257 (2) - 这个拉近一点比较好.. = = x:108 y:56左右
  2. 01:11:465 (2) - 这里往下一格
  3. 01:06:256 (2) - 这个往右一格, 不在正下方..= =
Basic

  1. 01:27:197 (3,4,1) - 这一段往上点。。
  2. 00:38:256 (4,5) - 往左点 x:372,y:312
my score
我还是太沙包了T_T

that's all

Good luck~
Snow Note
920 posts
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Topic Starter
Snow Note

ay6859 wrote:

Request From CLANNAD Mod queue ~

您好 7odoa 大 >< 以下只是建議 什麼Unrankble的我就 ... orz ~


Beginner

00:00:104 ~ 00:07:304 (1,2,3,4) - 這四顆間距可以再大一點 即使是Easy 的 Diff ~ :arrow: OK

00:12:976 (4,1) - 這兩個滑條節奏不對 , 可能要跟白線對齊 :arrow: 目前的已經是最好了


00:22:995 (1) - 這裡移到 00:22:865 , 並且延長到白線 :arrow: ^

00:56:954 (2) - 移到 00:56:818 , 並且延長到白線 :arrow: ^

01:34:111 (1) - 意思和^差不多 就是移到前面那條白線 長度在延長到後面那條白線 :arrow: ^

Basic

00:37:473 (3,4) - 這邊的節奏跟著前面打就好了 , 別任意更改 :arrow: 不想改 :o

Difficult

01:36:887 (1,2) - 這兩個變速的意義為何 ? 用短滑條吧 :arrow: OK

Challenge

Diff name 改成 Challenging ? :arrow: 這是DDRSN2的難度名稱,不可任意更改.

Sorry , I can't mod anymore >A<




Source 應該是 Dance Dance Revolution Supernova 2 :arrow: Dance Dance Revolution SuperNOVA 2 才是正確


GL ~

[CSGA]Ar3sgice wrote:

from my queue

这真心神图... T_T


Challenge

  1. 前面一段音量不要这么高吧.. 95%太高了 :arrow: 因為是soft,所以高一點都沒問題
  2. ...这是什么 好可怕T.T
  3. 00:48:910 (2) - ctrl+r吧 因为都是一个方向 就这一个不一样 :arrow: 不順手..
  4. 01:38:220 (2,3) - new combo :arrow: 不改~
Expert

  1. 00:17:749 (4) - 放到x:204 y:124 :arrow: ...
  2. 00:28:778 (1) - 这里new combo下一个去掉, 这样的pattern颜色不同有点奇怪 :arrow: It is okay ;)
Difficult

  1. 00:20:257 (2) - 这个拉近一点比较好.. = = x:108 y:56左右
  2. 01:11:465 (2) - 这里往下一格 :arrow: OK
  3. 01:06:256 (2) - 这个往右一格, 不在正下方..= = :arrow: OK
Basic

  1. 01:27:197 (3,4,1) - 这一段往上点。。 :arrow: ...
  2. 00:38:256 (4,5) - 往左点 x:372,y:312 :arrow: OK
my score
我还是太沙包了T_T

that's all

Good luck~
Thank for mod!~

I need one more Star...
Regou
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Joined July 2010
Regou
啊對了
現在我有kudosu趕緊給一顆星你:D
Snow Note
920 posts
Joined January 2011
Topic Starter
Snow Note

Regou wrote:

啊對了
現在我有kudosu趕緊給一顆星你:D
十分感謝! :)
Verdisphena
4,240 posts
Joined June 2010
Verdisphena
Want to make a taiko diff, Can I? :D
Ok, I didn't read the description x_x
Flask
Beatmap Nominator
3,466 posts
Joined July 2011
Flask
趕緊射>___>
Snow Note
920 posts
Joined January 2011
Topic Starter
Snow Note

Verdisphena wrote:

Want to make a taiko diff, Can I? :D
Because I no idea to map these part with BPM change...
Ok, I didn't read the description x_x

ay6859 wrote:

趕緊射>___>
感謝! !
Verdisphena
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Joined June 2010
Verdisphena

;a;
BeatofIke
4,172 posts
Joined September 2011
BeatofIke
THIS MAP IS F***NIG AWESOME. F***ING STARING THIS MAP. GOOD LUCK!
Hinsvar
osu! Alumni
3,804 posts
Joined December 2011
Hinsvar
Hi. Mod here 8-)

*Note: Gold ones are a must-do. Everything in red are things that look awkward to me (subjective suggestions; you can follow my lead here or not); everything else are rants and minor suggestions to make things look cooler.

>General
  1. Everything's fine on the block. To the diffs.
>Beginner
  1. 00:37:473 (2) - Remove Finish?
>Difficult
  1. This feels like an Insane difficulty for me...
  2. 00:58:456 (1) - Unstack this? Don't know why, but I frequently hit this too early and made a miss.
>Expert
  1. HP Drain -1?
  2. 00:35:908 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern is... uh... a bit hard to read.
...Not really sure if I helped with anything. This beatmap's already great. This is worth a bubble, IMO.

Good luck on the way 8-)

Oh, and stars.
Snow Note
920 posts
Joined January 2011
Topic Starter
Snow Note
Thank You BeatofIke!

Hinsvar wrote:

Hi. Mod here 8-)

*Note: Gold ones are a must-do. Everything in red are things that look awkward to me (subjective suggestions; you can follow my lead here or not); everything else are rants and minor suggestions to make things look cooler.

>General
  1. Everything's fine on the block. To the diffs.
>Beginner
  1. 00:37:473 (2) - Remove Finish? :arrow: No change,It follow the music like other diff...
>Difficult
  1. This feels like an Insane difficulty for me... :arrow: Because the BPM 8-)
  2. 00:58:456 (1) - Unstack this? Don't know why, but I frequently hit this too early and made a miss. :arrow: Ok~
>Expert
  1. HP Drain -1? :arrow: No change because [Difficult] is use HP5.
  2. 00:35:908 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern is... uh... a bit hard to read. :arrow: I think player can read it If they can play [Difficult] well.
...Not really sure if I helped with anything. This beatmap's already great. This is worth a bubble, IMO.

Good luck on the way 8-)

Oh, and stars. :arrow: Thank! :)
Thank for mod&Star*2! :)
Frostmourne
osu! Alumni
3,733 posts
Joined November 2009
Frostmourne
hihi 7odoa ~

From modding queue

Beginner
fine~

Basic
01:16:508 (1) - new combo here , I like 1,2 1,2,3 1,3 and it's better for me :3
01:17:326 (1) - I think it's better to new combo this and remove new combo next note because from their position and sound

Difficult
00:29:778 (1) - If you remove new combo here and add next note instead , I think next set of combo 1-5 will fit to thier position (half down)

Expert
01:33:769 (1) - change this to repeat slider please ? from previous run , I think people can't stop his run by this anti jump , so using repeat slider at this point would be better.


Challenge
I suggest you to -1 HP drain , it's really hard to pass in last part from this hp drain and bpm ...
00:35:517 (3) - this can confuse people from last 00:34:734 (3) - I think this slider need to be moved to other position or move its tail
00:51:365 (7) - this slider need to be new combo from decreasing slider velocity and because this slider placed near other slider but speed doesn't match with them
01:19:915 (2) - why don't use slow slider same as previous point like this ? 01:17:053 (3) - I think this single note cut your flow from its sound , slider will fit it more than this
01:20:463 (2) - ^
01:21:690 (1) - use 1/6 snap divisor, end this slider at 01:22:053 (you use 1/4 and it doesn't match with sound I heard from 25% playback)
01:31:923 (1) - nazi , move this slider's tail to x:278 y:211 this will be stacked completely with 01:31:115 (2) -


sorry for late modding =_=''


Star and Good luck for ranking !
Snow Note
920 posts
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Topic Starter
Snow Note

Frostmourne wrote:

hihi 7odoa ~

From modding queue

Beginner
fine~

Basic
01:16:508 (1) - new combo here , I like 1,2 1,2,3 1,3 and it's better for me :3 :arrow: Ok~
01:17:326 (1) - I think it's better to new combo this and remove new combo next note because from their position and sound :arrow: Ok~

Difficult
00:29:778 (1) - If you remove new combo here and add next note instead , I think next set of combo 1-5 will fit to thier position (half down) :arrow: Currently is fine...

Expert
01:33:769 (1) - change this to repeat slider please ? from previous run , I think people can't stop his run by this anti jump , so using repeat slider at this point would be better. :arrow: Ok~


Challenge
I suggest you to -1 HP drain , it's really hard to pass in last part from this hp drain and bpm ... :arrow: HP6 not fit this song,and this is Challenge diff,so I do not want player easy to pass...
00:35:517 (3) - this can confuse people from last 00:34:734 (3) - I think this slider need to be moved to other position or move its tail
:arrow: Okay...
00:51:365 (7) - this slider need to be new combo from decreasing slider velocity and because this slider placed near other slider but speed doesn't match with them :arrow: Changed Sider Shape.
01:19:915 (2) - why don't use slow slider same as previous point like this ? 01:17:053 (3) - I think this single note cut your flow from its sound , slider will fit it more than this :arrow: Good idea,Fixed!
01:20:463 (2) - ^ :arrow: ^
01:21:690 (1) - use 1/6 snap divisor, end this slider at 01:22:053 (you use 1/4 and it doesn't match with sound I heard from 25% playback) :arrow: Fixed,Thank you for point out!
01:31:923 (1) - nazi , move this slider's tail to x:278 y:211 this will be stacked completely with 01:31:115 (2) - :arrow: Ok~


sorry for late modding =_=''


Star and Good luck for ranking !
Thank You for Useful mod & Star! :)

  1. I removed many useless green line And Changed Kiai time.
wcx19911123
3,862 posts
Joined June 2010
wcx19911123
from my queue

[General]
timing不是每个难度都一样，红线太多了我懒得仔细看了，自己看看吧0.0
可能因为timing的关系，kiai也不一样了，可以试试弄一样来

[Beginner]
01:21:008 (4,5) - 可以考虑换成slider，这个节奏对新人来说太难读了

[Basic]
AR+1？
00:58:045 (2,3) - 换成slider？

[Difficult]
fine

[Expert]
01:22:237 (1,2,3,4,5) - 开25%仔细听的话，这里其实是1/4的4连
01:36:887 (1,2) - 这两个1.5x真心没必要。。

[Challenge]
AR+1？
01:22:237 (1,2,3,4,5) - same
01:36:887 (1,2) - same

太鬼畜了QAQ
图虽然没啥问题，不过这难度，我不知道能rank不。。
Snow Note
920 posts
Joined January 2011
Topic Starter
Snow Note

wcx19911123 wrote:

from my queue

[General]
timing不是每个难度都一样，红线太多了我懒得仔细看了，自己看看吧0.0
可能因为timing的关系，kiai也不一样了，可以试试弄一样来 :arrow: Leorda都提出了,一難度的红线共有57條,如果要找出來的話,不知道要花上多少時間... :( (有工具便好了)

[Beginner]
01:21:008 (4,5) - 可以考虑换成slide，这个节奏对新人来说太难读了 :arrow: 有心無力,换成slider的話會是55BPM slider... :o

[Basic]
AR+1？ :arrow: 在50BPM 的地方太快了
00:58:045 (2,3) - 换成slider？ :arrow: 同上

[Difficult]
fine

[Expert]
01:22:237 (1,2,3,4,5) - 开25%仔细听的话，这里其实是1/4的4连 :arrow: 如果有留意IIDX的譜面的話,這裏是5连打
01:36:887 (1,2) - 这两个1.5x真心没必要。。 :arrow: 我看看他人的意見....

[Challenge]
AR+1？ :arrow: 在50BPM 的地方太快了...
01:22:237 (1,2,3,4,5) - same :arrow: 同上
01:36:887 (1,2) - same :arrow: 同上

太鬼畜了QAQ
图虽然没啥问题，不过这难度，我不知道能rank不。。 :arrow: 我都不知道...
看來要ranked便需要最少8 page的post了 :o
果然容昜的圖是較容昜Ranked

Thank for Wcx for Mod And Star icon!~ :)
Nymph
osu! Alumni
3,243 posts
Joined December 2010
Nymph
Hi Nymph here and request from my queue.

[General]
红线错在这了 CHANLLENGE难度和其他难度不同 改成和其他难度一样吧




所以KIAI的不同也是差在那了 统一弄一下~


[Challenge]
Beatmap design/suggestion
基本没什么好提的 只有：...........
00:13:385 (4) - 这个slider减速1PC巨突然……完全反应不过来 NC一下提示下？
00:17:749 (4) - ^也是。。
00:51:365 (7) -
00:54:773 (4) -
00:58:045 (3) -
01:10:783 (3) -
01:13:101 (4) -
01:14:327 (6) -
01:15:145 (3) -
01:16:235 (4) -
01:17:053 (3) -
01:17:462 (4) -
01:18:143 (6) -
01:25:612 (4) -
01:29:477 (4) -
…………我感觉这歌就让我头脑一片混乱 我就完全不能判断哪个是减速slider了 如果可以的话 我倒真想推荐你单独用一个combo colour来标记每个减速的slider……弄个灰色什么的…………能让读图更容易一些..要不真是彻底懵了

图本身没问题……关键我觉得这map要bubble得找有魄力的MAT或者BAT.....

以上TAT

Snow Note
920 posts
Joined January 2011
Topic Starter
Snow Note

Nymph wrote:

Hi Nymph here and request from my queue.

[General]
红线错在这了 CHANLLENGE难度和其他难度不同 改成和其他难度一样吧
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所以KIAI的不同也是差在那了 统一弄一下~ :arrow: FIXED,十分感謝! :)


[Challenge]
Beatmap design/suggestion
基本没什么好提的 只有：...........
00:13:385 (4) - 这个slider减速1PC巨突然……完全反应不过来 NC一下提示下？
00:17:749 (4) - ^也是。。
00:51:365 (7) -
00:54:773 (4) -
00:58:045 (3) -
01:10:783 (3) -
01:13:101 (4) -
01:14:327 (6) -
01:15:145 (3) -
01:16:235 (4) -
01:17:053 (3) -
01:17:462 (4) -
01:18:143 (6) -
01:25:612 (4) -
01:29:477 (4) -
…………我感觉这歌就让我头脑一片混乱 我就完全不能判断哪个是减速slider了 如果可以的话 我倒真想推荐你单独用一个combo colour来标记每个减速的slider……弄个灰色什么的…………能让读图更容易一些..要不真是彻底懵了
:arrow: 這曲在IIDX和DDR都是無法判断哪裏減速,玩家只能記下哪裏减速,不然便無法pass了(Beatmania IIDX原影片)
因上的原因,所以我不打算改,加上不太喜歡大量NC.
不能判断减速是這圖的難度所在,因為這是[Challenge] ;)

图本身没问题……关键我觉得这map要bubble得找有魄力的MAT或者BAT..... :arrow: 這個我試試找多個MAT/Modder吧...

以上TAT
Thank You Nymph for Mod! :)

Red line Fixed!
DarknessAngel
2,237 posts
Joined May 2010
DarknessAngel
request from All map will be modded

Red words = Unrankable thing
Blue words = It is the best way that you fix it
Black words = If I were you,I would do that
Green words = some of my comment,or something I want you to notice


Challenge

  1. 我瞎了，對於這難度我不知道該如何評價才好，不科學啊
  2. 00:13:385 (4) - 真心認為像這種變速很多的長條理應給它個NC，這是對玩家的一種照顧，比較好判斷而且有強調這part的效果
    另外我看了你上一篇的回應，這圖已經非常難了(能pass的我想絕對很少)，在判斷上也增加難度也只是讓玩家徒增困擾而已
    沒比較好，反而更差:< →
  3. 01:12:009 (1) - 你看看你，可以給note加NC卻不給長條，你偏心 !
    嘛，說那麼多你還是沒改的話，那盒子裡的東西就無視吧 ~
  4. 00:15:703 (1,2,3,4) - 這種其實就跟note組成的一直線差不多，因為呈現一個弧的關係大多數人打這種pattern多半會用鼠標"滑"過去，然而這樣又非常容易斷，像我就挺討厭這種排法的，不舒服啊lol
    box
  5. 00:17:749 (4) - NC個，理由你知道
  6. 00:51:365 (7) - ^
  7. 00:54:773 (4) - ^
  8. 00:58:045 (3) - ^
  9. 01:10:783 (3) - ^
  10. 01:13:101 (4) - 長條說：「請給我NC吧QQ。」
  11. 01:14:327 (6) - ^
  12. 01:16:235 (4) - ^
  13. 01:16:644 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 這part只有(3)需要NC而已
  14. 01:25:612 (4) - NC
  15. 01:29:477 (4) - NC
01:30:077 - 非人領域，開始 ! 要毀滅世界了啊 OAQ01:36:887 (1,2) - 這兩個slider速度太不科學啦orz

Expert

  1. 這星數騙太大orz，我能想像玩家第一次玩的表情會是「OAO」
  2. 01:28:157 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 超討厭的part...orz
  3. 01:36:887 (1,2) - 我想在這兩個長條賺300都不行lol
    以上是我的心得:3

Difficult

  1. 總覺得難度名"Hyper"好點，因為beginner和expert，總合起來念得比較順xD
  2. 這圖找BAT的話絕對不能找Odaril

Basic

  1. Basic啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊(意義不明

Beginner

  1. 01:21:008 (4,5) - 我覺得把這兩個note換成slider比較好，以突然轉折的音來說，改成這樣對新手來的簡單許多

恩，這圖真的滿好
只是放的某些跳讓圖打起來不是那麼的順
我期待這圖能ranked
玩家反應一定很大xD
加油gogo ~
S.T.A.R !!
:)
DarknessAngel
2,237 posts
Joined May 2010
DarknessAngel
抱歉post兩次
由於代碼還有系統問題(它不給Edit...)
排版變得很奇怪希望別介意OAQ
Snow Note
920 posts
Joined January 2011
Topic Starter
Snow Note

DarknessAngel wrote:

抱歉post兩次
由於代碼還有系統問題(它不給Edit...)
排版變得很奇怪希望別介意OAQ
ok~

DarknessAngel wrote:

request from All map will be modded

Challenge


我瞎了，對於這難度我不知道該如何評價才好，不科學啊 :arrow: 這有"孤高の創世"的難度~
00:13:385 (4) - 真心認為像這種變速很多的長條理應給它個NC，這是對玩家的一種照顧，比較好判斷而且有強調這part的效果
另外我看了你上一篇的回應，這圖已經非常難了(能pass的我想絕對很少)，在判斷上也增加難度也只是讓玩家徒增困擾而已
沒比較好，反而更差:< → :arrow: 原作的譜面都是沒有暗示任何BPM變化 :o ,如果再有多一位Modder提出我便改了...
01:12:009 (1) - 你看看你，可以給note加NC卻不給長條，你偏心 ! :arrow: I removed this NC...
嘛，說那麼多你還是沒改的話，那盒子裡的東西就無視吧 ~
00:15:703 (1,2,3,4) - 這種其實就跟note組成的一直線差不多，因為呈現一個弧的關係大多數人打這種pattern多半會用鼠標"滑"過去，然而這樣又非常容易斷，像我就挺討厭這種排法的，不舒服啊lol :arrow: 這是間距的難度吧~
box (click to toggle)
00:17:749 (4) - NC個，理由你知道
00:51:365 (7) - ^
00:54:773 (4) - ^
00:58:045 (3) - ^
01:10:783 (3) - ^
01:13:101 (4) - 長條說：「請給我NC吧QQ。」
01:14:327 (6) - ^
01:16:235 (4) - ^
01:16:644 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 這part只有(3)需要NC而已
01:25:612 (4) - NC
01:29:477 (4) - NC :arrow: 先不改,看看其他Modder的意見~


01:30:077 - 非人領域，開始 ! 要毀滅世界了啊 OAQ :arrow: :D
01:36:887 (1,2) - 這兩個slider速度太不科學啦orz :arrow: 這兩個slider很好看,如果再有多一位Modder提出我便改了...


Expert


這星數騙太大orz，我能想像玩家第一次玩的表情會是「OAO」 :arrow: 這為何4.5* :o
01:28:157 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 超討厭的part...orz :arrow: ...
01:36:887 (1,2) - 我想在這兩個長條賺300都不行lol:arrow: 這兩個slider很好看,如果再有多一位Modder提出我便改了...
以上是我的心得:3



Difficult


總覺得難度名"Hyper"好點，因為beginner和expert，總合起來念得比較順xD :arrow: 這是DDRSN2的難度名稱,不可任意更改.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance_Danc ... Difficulty)

這圖找BAT的話絕對不能找Odaril :arrow: 他一定說:這一定不是hard的難度! 8-)



Basic


Basic啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊(意義不明 :arrow: :)



Beginner


01:21:008 (4,5) - 我覺得把這兩個note換成slider比較好，以突然轉折的音來說，改成這樣對新手來的簡單許多 :arrow: 這裏BPM=55 Orz... :o



恩，這圖真的滿好
只是放的某些跳讓圖打起來不是那麼的順
我期待這圖能ranked
玩家反應一定很大xD
加油gogo ~
S.T.A.R !! :arrow: 十分感謝!
:)
Thank You DarknessAngel for Mod&Star!
DarknessAngel
2,237 posts
Joined May 2010
DarknessAngel

7odoa wrote:

01:36:887 (1,2) - 這兩個slider速度太不科學啦orz :arrow: 這兩個slider很好看,如果再有多一位Modder提出我便改了...01:36:887 (1,2) - 我想在這兩個長條賺300都不行lol:arrow: 這兩個slider很好看,如果再有多一位Modder提出我便改了...
由於上面是綠色字所以只是吐槽用啦，沒要你改lol

Edit : 第一次mod沒得到KD，我太遜了T.T
Edit 2 : 欸？我想說你是因為什麼都沒改所以沒給，原來是忘了ww
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Snow Note
920 posts
Joined January 2011
Topic Starter
Snow Note

DarknessAngel wrote:

7odoa wrote:

01:36:887 (1,2) - 這兩個slider速度太不科學啦orz :arrow: 這兩個slider很好看,如果再有多一位Modder提出我便改了...01:36:887 (1,2) - 我想在這兩個長條賺300都不行lol:arrow: 這兩個slider很好看,如果再有多一位Modder提出我便改了...
由於上面是綠色字所以只是吐槽用啦，沒要你改lol
不是,我都認為這兩個slider有一點過分,才要考慮應否修改...

放心吧,我没有修改! :D

EDIT:第一次接你的mod忘了給KD,我記性太差了 :(
Charles445
Elite Mapper II: Aspirant / osu! Paragon
2,881 posts
Joined March 2009
Charles445
Pretty sure using red timing sections merely to slow down sliders isn't rankable anymore, even if it is from the official timing.
Snow Note
920 posts
Joined January 2011
Topic Starter
Snow Note

Charles445 wrote:

Pretty sure using red timing sections merely to slow down sliders isn't rankable anymore, even if it is from the official timing.
hmm,Maybe okay for this song?
Because when I map Pluto Relinquish,I use BPM 100-200-400-800
Cygnus
1,517 posts
Joined December 2011
Cygnus
  • GUIDELINES
  1. When the text is color RED, it is unrankable.
  2. When the text is color BLACK, it's just a suggestion.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxXXXXXxXXXXGENERAL
SPOILER
  1. Tons Unsnapped Sections. Check AIBAT.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxXXxXX.XXXXXXBEGINNER
SPOILER
  1. 01:21:008 (4,5) - I think it's better if you replace this two circles with a slider.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxXXXXXXXXX.XBASIC
SPOILER
  1. 01:34:000 (1) - Please remove this note. Always remember this section is 270BPM. You don't wanna make a Normal Diff have a little 135 BPM tweak right?

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxXXXXX.xXxXDIFFICULT
SPOILER
  1. Seems fine.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxllWXXXXXXXXEXPERT
SPOILER
  1. 01:22:237 (1,2,3,4) - The stream doesn't really fit up with the song. I suggest you just replace this with 1/2 notes/sliders.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxXXxXXXXXXCHALLENGE
SPOILER
  1. 01:22:237 - Same thing as I said on expert.

  2. 01:22:737 (6) - Making this a blanket of Slider (5) would be better.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxXXlXXXXXXXXCOMMENT
SPOILER
  1. This map is so legendary! One of the best maps i've seen. D:

  • END OF PHILIPPINES'S MOD ~
  1. Before anything else, If you have any questions, don't be shy to ask me.
  2. If you need assistance, mapping techniques, you can count on me.
  3. I would be glad if you try to mod my map as well: KIMONO PRINCESS
ertyukjh010
1,415 posts
Joined December 2009
ertyukjh010


早安 7odoa又一張觸圖QAQ 題外話早兩天偷偷加了好友

[General]

Offset: 104.821782178218 嗯......?

[Beginner]

00:13:931 (1,2,3,4) - 這部份Timing確定沒錯?? 聽下去怪怪的，試試(1)在00:15:021結束，(2)搬到00:15:567，(3)搬到00:16:112，(4)提前從00:17:203開始
01:21:008 (4,5) - Slider代替，新手哪裡能應付這種突然加速lol

[Basic]

00:18:496 - Useless inherited point
00:20:517 (1) - 第三點向左移動1格

[Difficult]

00:09:704 (1) - 對比前面的速度，這個加速實在很突然....有沒有辦法放個SB之類?
00:29:653 (4) - 之面習慣了1/1，這裡突然有個1/2有點不順手，看看要不要刪掉，或者放在前面Slider的下方順著去

[Expert]

okay

[Challenge]

我是覺得要不要AR10 後面270Bpm感覺有點亂orz

就這樣囉~
those
3,136 posts
Joined November 2010
those
From .:Let those mod those maps:.

[General]
If you would like, you can delete all your bookmarks to decrease the size of your .osz file by a little since you won't be needing them by the time this gets put on the server.
You do not need the timing points at:
00:13:385
00:13:931
00:14:067
00:17:749
00:22:604
00:51:365
00:54:773
00:58:045
01:10:783
01:11:056
01:11:737
01:12:419
01:13:100
01:13:372
01:14:327
01:14:599
01:15:145
01:15:554
01:16:235
01:16:507
01:17:053
01:17:325
01:17:871
01:18:143
01:18:415
01:18:552
01:18:961
01:19:915
01:20:327
01:20:872
01:21:008
01:21:690
01:25:612
01:29:477
01:33:769
01:34:666
01:36:443

That's a lot of timing points you used there: at first I thought you were trying to stay on rhythm and to try to start each downbeat at the right place, but then I looked at your Challenge difficulty and realized that you were using the Timing points to manipulate your slider velocity, which is unfortunately UNRANKABLE. Let's delete these and fix your sliders before I come back to this. Feel free to PM me when that's fixed.

In addition, you also have inconsistent Kiai Times. You may want to fix those as well.

Good luck :3
Snow Note
920 posts
Joined January 2011
Topic Starter
Snow Note

those wrote:

From .:Let those mod those maps:.

[General]
If you would like, you can delete all your bookmarks to decrease the size of your .osz file by a little since you won't be needing them by the time this gets put on the server.
You do not need the timing points at:
00:13:385
00:13:931
00:14:067
00:17:749
00:22:604
00:51:365
00:54:773
00:58:045
01:10:783
01:11:056
01:11:737
01:12:419
01:13:100
01:13:372
01:14:327
01:14:599
01:15:145
01:15:554
01:16:235
01:16:507
01:17:053
01:17:325
01:17:871
01:18:143
01:18:415
01:18:552
01:18:961
01:19:915
01:20:327
01:20:872
01:21:008
01:21:690
01:25:612
01:29:477
01:33:769
01:34:666
01:36:443

That's a lot of timing points you used there: at first I thought you were trying to stay on rhythm and to try to start each downbeat at the right place, but then I looked at your Challenge difficulty and realized that you were using the Timing points to manipulate your slider velocity, which is unfortunately UNRANKABLE. Let's delete these and fix your sliders before I come back to this. Feel free to PM me when that's fixed.

In addition, you also have inconsistent Kiai Times. You may want to fix those as well.

Good luck :3
You are wrong,those Timing points is presence in this song. :arrow: Beatmania IIDX's Pluto Video(Look at the BPM change at bottom)

About Kiai Times,I've checked all diff and found no problem.

Thank You for check~
those
3,136 posts
Joined November 2010
those
It doesn't matter whether they are present in the official music. In a map you cannot manipulate slider velocity with Timing Points if you want your map ranked.
Snow Note
920 posts
Joined January 2011
Topic Starter
Snow Note
I just follow official timing,so I think it is fine and no change.
I don't want to manipulate slider velocity with Timing Points,It is the song make me to do it.
This need more comment... :o
those
3,136 posts
Joined November 2010
those

7odoa wrote:

I just follow official timing,so I think it is fine.
I don't want to manipulate slider velocity with Timing Points,It is the song make me to do it.
This need more comment... :o
You are manipulating slider velocity with Timing Points, and here's a quick way to fix it.
Right now, you have instances of 220 and 55 bpm. To fix that, recalling the lowest sv multipler is x0.5, set the instances of 55 bpm to x0.5 sv, and set the instances of 220 bpm to x2.0 sv. Keep in mind you will need to fix your general sliver velocity by doing so.
Snow Note
920 posts
Joined January 2011
Topic Starter
Snow Note
I know,but it will become 100~135BPM in this song...
The problem is some BPM have completely different slider speed,It look more strange... :o
Also I can't use SV multipler3.5x for this to Slider ([Challenge] 01:36:887 (1,2))
And this song is no 100~135BPM,only 50~270.

Sorry but I think currently is the best setting for this song.
If this is unrankable,I will talk to MAT/BAT.

Thank you those!~

Sorry for my poor english...
Mirage
627 posts
Joined May 2011
Mirage
This map is fantastic. And I love the way BPM is manipulated.
In my honest opinion, Slider velocities could be manipulated, they give a SO nice effect!
You're one of my favourite mappers, 7odoa
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