To Each His Own
A cyclone slowly makes its way toward Gantt Prison. Inside, the last of the prisoners along with the lone guard escorting them are the last to evacuate. As the prisoners approach the exit, the lights flicker off - electricity is down and the prison's automatic security system locks them in. A struggle in the dark ensues as everyone considers their options...

This is an experimental set-up!

Set-up:
1 - Guard
1 - Avenger
1 - Mental Patient
1 - Escapee
1 - Inmate

Alive:
1. Rantai - Avenger - Won Day 1
5. Salvage - Guard - Won Day 1

2. bmin11 - Escapee - Lost Day 1
4. Chris - Mental Patient - Lost Day 1

Dead:
3. Wojjan - Inmate (Lynchee) - Lynched Day 1

Specifics:
I've been wondering what a game would be when everyone had different win conditions.
This is a test game to decide if such a set-up is balanced given each roles' pros and cons.

The game ends when any role obtains a win condition.
There may be cases where a multiple win conditions can be achieved.

Day lasts 72 hours.
Night lasts 24 hours.

Role PMs:

Rules:

General:
1) Do not quote your role PM or anything the mod gives to you.
2) Do not post screenshots or any sort of factual evidence of private communications, either with the mod or amongst yourselves.
3) Do not edit your posts.
4) Do not talk outside of the thread, unless your role PM allows so.
5) Mod has the final say on any issue. If the mod makes a mistake, feel free to PM him to sort it out.
6) If you need any help, or have questions, or just want to talk in general, feel free to PM the mod.
7) Dead men tell no tales. Dead people may not post in the thread.

Day:
1) Game starts at Day.
2) Deadlines will be 72 hours tentatively. Extensions may be placed depending on the activity.
3) You may vote someone by using this format: Vote : Player -- You may also choose to not lynch anyone. Vote: No-Lynch
4) You may also remove your vote by using this format: Unvote : Player
5) When a player receives more than half of the total votes at any point during the day, that player is automatically lynched.
6) Once a player is lynched, there shall be no posting in the thread even before the mod posts the lynch scene. Night will commence shortly.
7) If no one has been lynched, and the deadline has passed, the person with the most votes gets lynched. If there is a tie, the one who reached the tying amount of votes first, is lynched.
8) A player has to remain active, at least one post per 24 hours. If a player has not posted for 24 hours, one may request for them to be prodded.
9) If the player prodded doesn't respond, a he/she will be replaced.
10) If the player gets prodded three times already and still becomes inactive he/she will be automatically replaced.
11) If no replacement can be found. The player will be modkilled instead.

Night:
1) Night lasts 24 hours.
2) Any roles or factions with active night abilities may choose to use them by PM-ing the mod (see the Role PM for role-specific instructions).
3) Once the deadline for night has passed, all actions not received will count as a No Action.

Oh and any comments/suggestions on the roles before we play is fine.
This is an open setup.

This kind of sounds like that king/prince/sorcerer/knight game (whatever it was called)

Kingdom Royale you mean?

Yeah that xD

Oh and I'd like to be a guinea pig.

Jester, lyncher, and an survivor. Heck, this sounds fun XD

/in

in because oh dear

does the vivor wincon end the game?

I'll play.

thank you for making a game finally

in

For fuck's sake am I late again nnnnnghduighsdbiua

Wojjan wrote:

does the vivor wincon end the game?

Yes.

Edit:
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Ahh hmm.

Jester dies - Jester/possible lyncher win
Survivor dies - keeps going
Guard dies - keeps going
Lyncher dies - keeps going
Mafia dies - guard may win if he is not the lynchee

So uh the best lynch we have is lynching the lyncher simply because everyone benefits from the death (one less win condition, no one has the potential to win with the death). Of course there is no way to know who is what but at least it's something to work towards.

i didn't understand the mafia dies situation


isn't the guard supposed to kill the lyncher and the mafia?


and not the mafia only i mean.

"You win when all the possible threats towards you have been eliminated."

If he isn't the lynchee then I can't see how the lyncher is a threat.

Not sure really; Mod: Does the guard win if the mafia is dead and the lyncher's lynchee is not the guard?

then he probabbly is cause why would NoHitter put "Inmate and Avenger" there on the Note otherwise?

I thought it was an oversight. That's why I'm asking now.

Oh and because of this;

"You are a Lyncher.
You win when X is lynched.
Note: X is selected randomly"

then the avenger has to be dead regardless of the lyncher, along with the inmate for the guard to win

Not sure how that is a threat to him but ok.

me neither but the host confusing town before the game seems more sensless than that and it will dumb as hell so that's why those are the two options imo.

and with that i mean host giving false information pre-game it's stupid and brings a lot of randomness from the very begin which i wouldn't count NH on doing so.


so taking those 2 Notes in mind either the Guard is the lynchee or the Avenger has to die regardless

why do either of you think nohitter gave false information

I don't get it

???



i just said he didn't

oh I didn't understand what you wrote

If the Avenger's target isn't the Guard, the Guard need not have the Avenger dead to win.

then the avenger's target is most likely to be the guard, i'd say 100% but idk.

Mmm I thought so.

so the guard is right now the only townie? sounds fair. Can someone more capable do the math iof whether it's best to lynch or no lynch? At first glance when you consider two people automatically end the game on lynch, it seems benefittable to no lynch

no, we don't have any informative role to gather information on a no lynch situation so i guess we have another two options on this scenario :



1. the guard claims and we increase the chances of lynching mafia
2. random lynch and hope we don't get the lynchee




on the situation we do a no lynch (which i don't see it working but i'm really bad doing those kind of maths on d1 so idk).

random lynch is going to be tight, because we have to avoid both lynchee and fool

on the other hand if the guard claims it'd defeat the purpose of the bulletproof vest being effective, and we're just assuming he's the lynchee anyways (i'm pretty sure about it tho but whatever)


also i don't think we have fools on this game lol, feels good.

yes we do. mental patient

oh true true very true that thing u say

Uh that was a huge pain in the ass.

But here are some numbers, if we no lynch;

Chance to win:

Lyncher 17.67%
Guard 14.48%
Mafia 15.52%
Jester 26.8%
Survivor 57.48%

This includes joint wins and chance lynchee lynches. I haven't done the 'if we lynch' numbers yet. I might do it later but right now I am sick of spreadsheets.

I assume the jester can joint win with the lyncher if he is the lynchee, the survivor can joint win with anyone etc etc.

I'd say, based on a quick estimate, that we have a better chance going for a lynch today and hoping to get the survivor.

40% chance someone will win today or 57% chance that the survivor wins on the next day.

Rantai wrote:

I assume the jester can joint win with the lyncher if he is the lynchee, the survivor can joint win with anyone etc etc.

sounds about right, but bear in mind nobody can win after D2 end. That's vivor by default.

Yeah. That's why the survivor chance is so damn high. Almost all paths led to an auto win.

Salvage you lost me dear are you looking for a lyncher bandwagon?

im trying to lynch the survivor



and if you were the survivor Wojjan my love, would you lurk or try to seem town you tell me

Not much reason to 'act' town in this game. We're basically all independent factions.

Though I now have some light speculations on your role.