does the vivor wincon end the game?
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To Each His Own (AVENGER/GUARD WIN) - Revenge!
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Yes.Wojjan wrote:
does the vivor wincon end the game?
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Electricity is still down. The entire facility is still shrouded in darkness.
The five all agree to discuss what to do next. They all realize that none of them can quite recognize each other in the darkness.
What are each of them planning?
IT IS NOW DAY 1.
WITH 5 ALIVE, IT TAKES 3 TO LYNCH.
The five all agree to discuss what to do next. They all realize that none of them can quite recognize each other in the darkness.
What are each of them planning?
IT IS NOW DAY 1.
WITH 5 ALIVE, IT TAKES 3 TO LYNCH.
Ahh hmm.
Jester dies - Jester/possible lyncher win
Survivor dies - keeps going
Guard dies - keeps going
Lyncher dies - keeps going
Mafia dies - guard may win if he is not the lynchee
So uh the best lynch we have is lynching the lyncher simply because everyone benefits from the death (one less win condition, no one has the potential to win with the death). Of course there is no way to know who is what but at least it's something to work towards.
Jester dies - Jester/possible lyncher win
Survivor dies - keeps going
Guard dies - keeps going
Lyncher dies - keeps going
Mafia dies - guard may win if he is not the lynchee
So uh the best lynch we have is lynching the lyncher simply because everyone benefits from the death (one less win condition, no one has the potential to win with the death). Of course there is no way to know who is what but at least it's something to work towards.
i didn't understand the mafia dies situation
isn't the guard supposed to kill the lyncher and the mafia?
and not the mafia only i mean.
isn't the guard supposed to kill the lyncher and the mafia?
and not the mafia only i mean.
"You win when all the possible threats towards you have been eliminated."
If he isn't the lynchee then I can't see how the lyncher is a threat.
Not sure really; Mod: Does the guard win if the mafia is dead and the lyncher's lynchee is not the guard?
If he isn't the lynchee then I can't see how the lyncher is a threat.
Not sure really; Mod: Does the guard win if the mafia is dead and the lyncher's lynchee is not the guard?
then he probabbly is cause why would NoHitter put "Inmate and Avenger" there on the Note otherwise?
I thought it was an oversight. That's why I'm asking now.
Oh and because of this;
"You are a Lyncher.
You win when X is lynched.
Note: X is selected randomly"
"You are a Lyncher.
You win when X is lynched.
Note: X is selected randomly"
then the avenger has to be dead regardless of the lyncher, along with the inmate for the guard to win
Not sure how that is a threat to him but ok.
me neither but the host confusing town before the game seems more sensless than that and it will dumb as hell so that's why those are the two options imo.
and with that i mean host giving false information pre-game it's stupid and brings a lot of randomness from the very begin which i wouldn't count NH on doing so.
so taking those 2 Notes in mind either the Guard is the lynchee or the Avenger has to die regardless
so taking those 2 Notes in mind either the Guard is the lynchee or the Avenger has to die regardless
why do either of you think nohitter gave false information
I don't get it
I don't get it
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If the Avenger's target isn't the Guard, the Guard need not have the Avenger dead to win.
then the avenger's target is most likely to be the guard, i'd say 100% but idk.
Mmm I thought so.
so the guard is right now the only townie? sounds fair. Can someone more capable do the math iof whether it's best to lynch or no lynch? At first glance when you consider two people automatically end the game on lynch, it seems benefittable to no lynch
no, we don't have any informative role to gather information on a no lynch situation so i guess we have another two options on this scenario :
1. the guard claims and we increase the chances of lynching mafia
2. random lynch and hope we don't get the lynchee
on the situation we do a no lynch (which i don't see it working but i'm really bad doing those kind of maths on d1 so idk).
1. the guard claims and we increase the chances of lynching mafia
2. random lynch and hope we don't get the lynchee
on the situation we do a no lynch (which i don't see it working but i'm really bad doing those kind of maths on d1 so idk).
random lynch is going to be tight, because we have to avoid both lynchee and fool
on the other hand if the guard claims it'd defeat the purpose of the bulletproof vest being effective, and we're just assuming he's the lynchee anyways (i'm pretty sure about it tho but whatever)
also i don't think we have fools on this game lol, feels good.
also i don't think we have fools on this game lol, feels good.
Uh that was a huge pain in the ass.
But here are some numbers, if we no lynch;
Chance to win:
Lyncher 17.67%
Guard 14.48%
Mafia 15.52%
Jester 26.8%
Survivor 57.48%
This includes joint wins and chance lynchee lynches. I haven't done the 'if we lynch' numbers yet. I might do it later but right now I am sick of spreadsheets.
But here are some numbers, if we no lynch;
Chance to win:
Lyncher 17.67%
Guard 14.48%
Mafia 15.52%
Jester 26.8%
Survivor 57.48%
This includes joint wins and chance lynchee lynches. I haven't done the 'if we lynch' numbers yet. I might do it later but right now I am sick of spreadsheets.
I assume the jester can joint win with the lyncher if he is the lynchee, the survivor can joint win with anyone etc etc.
I'd say, based on a quick estimate, that we have a better chance going for a lynch today and hoping to get the survivor.
40% chance someone will win today or 57% chance that the survivor wins on the next day.
40% chance someone will win today or 57% chance that the survivor wins on the next day.
sounds about right, but bear in mind nobody can win after D2 end. That's vivor by default.Rantai wrote:
I assume the jester can joint win with the lyncher if he is the lynchee, the survivor can joint win with anyone etc etc.
Yeah. That's why the survivor chance is so damn high. Almost all paths led to an auto win.
Salvage you lost me dear are you looking for a lyncher bandwagon?