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To Each His Own (AVENGER/GUARD WIN) - Revenge!

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Salvage
then the avenger has to be dead regardless of the lyncher, along with the inmate for the guard to win
Rantai
Not sure how that is a threat to him but ok.
Salvage
me neither but the host confusing town before the game seems more sensless than that and it will dumb as hell so that's why those are the two options imo.
Salvage
and with that i mean host giving false information pre-game it's stupid and brings a lot of randomness from the very begin which i wouldn't count NH on doing so.


so taking those 2 Notes in mind either the Guard is the lynchee or the Avenger has to die regardless
Chris_old
why do either of you think nohitter gave false information

I don't get it
Salvage
???



i just said he didn't
Chris_old
oh I didn't understand what you wrote
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NoHitter
If the Avenger's target isn't the Guard, the Guard need not have the Avenger dead to win.
Salvage
then the avenger's target is most likely to be the guard, i'd say 100% but idk.
Rantai
Mmm I thought so.
Wojjan
so the guard is right now the only townie? sounds fair. Can someone more capable do the math iof whether it's best to lynch or no lynch? At first glance when you consider two people automatically end the game on lynch, it seems benefittable to no lynch
Salvage
no, we don't have any informative role to gather information on a no lynch situation so i guess we have another two options on this scenario :



1. the guard claims and we increase the chances of lynching mafia
2. random lynch and hope we don't get the lynchee




on the situation we do a no lynch (which i don't see it working but i'm really bad doing those kind of maths on d1 so idk).
Wojjan
random lynch is going to be tight, because we have to avoid both lynchee and fool
Salvage
on the other hand if the guard claims it'd defeat the purpose of the bulletproof vest being effective, and we're just assuming he's the lynchee anyways (i'm pretty sure about it tho but whatever)


also i don't think we have fools on this game lol, feels good.
Wojjan
yes we do. mental patient
Salvage
oh true true very true that thing u say
Rantai
Uh that was a huge pain in the ass.

But here are some numbers, if we no lynch;

Chance to win:

Lyncher 17.67%
Guard 14.48%
Mafia 15.52%
Jester 26.8%
Survivor 57.48%

This includes joint wins and chance lynchee lynches. I haven't done the 'if we lynch' numbers yet. I might do it later but right now I am sick of spreadsheets.
Rantai
I assume the jester can joint win with the lyncher if he is the lynchee, the survivor can joint win with anyone etc etc.
Salvage
vote bmin11
Rantai
I'd say, based on a quick estimate, that we have a better chance going for a lynch today and hoping to get the survivor.

40% chance someone will win today or 57% chance that the survivor wins on the next day.
Wojjan

Rantai wrote:

I assume the jester can joint win with the lyncher if he is the lynchee, the survivor can joint win with anyone etc etc.
sounds about right, but bear in mind nobody can win after D2 end. That's vivor by default.
Rantai
Yeah. That's why the survivor chance is so damn high. Almost all paths led to an auto win.
Salvage
unvote, vote Rantai
Wojjan
Salvage you lost me dear are you looking for a lyncher bandwagon?
Salvage
im trying to lynch the survivor



and if you were the survivor Wojjan my love, would you lurk or try to seem town you tell me
Rantai
Not much reason to 'act' town in this game. We're basically all independent factions.

Though I now have some light speculations on your role.
Salvage
do you?

share them
Rantai
Basically you are;

1. The survivor
or
2. The lyncher
Salvage
wrong, next.
Rantai
Of course I'm wrong.

Can't be right against a pre-determined answer.

Oh wait you can but that would be apply to a different situation
Salvage
i say it's really likely that Rantai its not the Jester and he's probabbly one of those two roles he mentioned, or the mafia


why? because he's not lurking like bmin and trying to give information while getting lynched in this game is easy, specially when there is no bad players and u can make a "slip" easily


so we lynching Rantai today.
Rantai
Isn't bmin asleep?

Hmm so Guard isn't mentioned in there. Interesting.
Salvage
are u claiming guard Rantai
Salvage
if u are we're lynching Wojjan instead
Rantai
I haven't quite claimed anything.

I thought you claimed guard just then though. But that'd be too easy.
Wojjan

Salvage wrote:

and if you were the survivor Wojjan my love, would you lurk or try to seem town you tell me
Salvage dear if I wasn't so sure you're the guard I'd think you're the fool for that first you vote bmin for lurking and then rantai for being town. Whatever the answer for you is why did you vote the other one?
Salvage
if the other one is Rantai then i already said it


it's because i think he's not the jester and that's enough to not waste a lynch in my opinion, do you have a better idea wojjan
Wojjan
no. I just want to know why you were voting bmin.
Salvage
oh bmin, to make him talk
Wojjan
okay. vote: Rantai
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