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Awesome.
A little FisHie.
Whales are much larger.
Whales are much larger.
I feel like it's important to address the OP first as that was the point of the thread: If someone feels bad about their own looks, then they should stop thinking about it, and take action to change what they don't like while they keep every quality they're proud of. This is what I think every hardworking attractive person in this world does. Just think, are some people are just blessed with good looks? Fuck no, they probably had to work their asses off, and it's a full time job, just like popularity in highschool, any paying job or manual labor. Research, learn, apply, take action, and don't break your discipline. This is why I respect every well-built man and any fine looking women with sexy curves. They must have put a lot of time and dedication into how they looked WHILE balancing everything else in this life that we seem to find important these days. <3
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I love girls who have a very tone body with curves because it's attractive to me. I like girls who grow their hair out and manage it very well, but only let it down when they want to look their finest. A pleasant and attractive voice will always get my attention and make me listen. Smooth and healthy skin makes me want to touch them and take care of them. Lastly a well shaped and cute face is most important out of everything as it makes me smile.
All of this is what is most important to attract healthy, strong, well-groomed, intelligent and powerful men in the very beginning.
After that it comes down to their personality, if they have a great personality, they're a keeper that you continue to love. If they fail to be very tolerable, you have sex with them and move on.
I believe in Darwinism especially after reading the book "The Moral Animal."
Just like NeverDie, I think only a moron would disregard the attractive qualities of looking good. Those are first and foremost to building attraction for a strong relationship. Trust me though, I don't look anywhere near as good as NeverDie either.
I find it really really easy to find attractive qualities in most people in the world, I just don't think it's worth it to ignore things that everyone can agree is important such as looks, social intuition, and confidence.
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I love girls who have a very tone body with curves because it's attractive to me. I like girls who grow their hair out and manage it very well, but only let it down when they want to look their finest. A pleasant and attractive voice will always get my attention and make me listen. Smooth and healthy skin makes me want to touch them and take care of them. Lastly a well shaped and cute face is most important out of everything as it makes me smile.
All of this is what is most important to attract healthy, strong, well-groomed, intelligent and powerful men in the very beginning.
After that it comes down to their personality, if they have a great personality, they're a keeper that you continue to love. If they fail to be very tolerable, you have sex with them and move on.
I believe in Darwinism especially after reading the book "The Moral Animal."
Just like NeverDie, I think only a moron would disregard the attractive qualities of looking good. Those are first and foremost to building attraction for a strong relationship. Trust me though, I don't look anywhere near as good as NeverDie either.
I find it really really easy to find attractive qualities in most people in the world, I just don't think it's worth it to ignore things that everyone can agree is important such as looks, social intuition, and confidence.
inb4 plastic surgery.
Hahaha, I don't think of it as a bad thing, absolutely not.mathexpert9981 wrote:
inb4 plastic surgery.
Hard work makes good money.
Hard work makes good looks.
Good money pays for good looks.
I suppose?
Plastic surgery? "Those aren't boobs! THEY'RE LIES!!!!"
I find that someone insecure enough to get plastic surgery is very unattractive, even if it doesn't look horribly artificial.
That assumes that getting plastic surgery is an insecure behavior. I don't see how that is the case. But you are entitled to your biases.mathexpert9981 wrote:
I find that someone insecure enough to get plastic surgery is very unattractive, even if it doesn't look horribly artificial.
A counter argument can be made that its insecure to dislike someone purely because they have had plastic surgery in their life.
You're argument completely stands if it is your current girlfriend/spouse asking you to pay for her plastic surgery. That's gold digging, and she can pay for it if she wants to better herself. HER WORK is what should make plastic surgery legitimate.
To me, as an individual, I find the act of plastic surgery appalling regardless of the circumstances. The only way I see it justified is if the person was injured in a way that heavily altered their physical appearance in the first place such as a burn.
But I assume it falls into body modification in general as I also don't like piercings or tattoos/body art.
Staying fit and hygienic is always a great pursuit that does deserve a proper amount of effort, but paying your way into a permanent costume isn't appealing to me a single bit.
But I assume it falls into body modification in general as I also don't like piercings or tattoos/body art.
Staying fit and hygienic is always a great pursuit that does deserve a proper amount of effort, but paying your way into a permanent costume isn't appealing to me a single bit.
I find plastic surgery alright. Those who benefit foremost are the ones around the individual. No one's a loser. Unless the plastic surgeon screws up.
NEVERDIE ALWAYS LIESVext wrote:
Plastic surgery? "Those aren't boobs! THEY'RE LIES!!!!"
As long as you're smart enough to realize "looking good" is relative to each individual's preferences, then yeah I'd say soB12ad wrote:
Just like NeverDie, I think only a moron would disregard the attractive qualities of looking good.
strictly trolling without at least wrapping your post in a thin disguise of an argument is NOT ACCEPTABLED33d wrote:
NEVERDIE ALWAYS LIESVext wrote:
Plastic surgery? "Those aren't boobs! THEY'RE LIES!!!!"
we're looking for SOME effort
Major consensus is that a well toned and fit body is the ideal look. There's people who even have sex with dogs, pigs, monkeys, and yes, fat people. Those people are not the norm and have obvious mental defects to certain extents.awp wrote:
As long as you're smart enough to realize "looking good" is relative to each individual's preferences, then yeah I'd say soB12ad wrote:
Just like NeverDie, I think only a moron would disregard the attractive qualities of looking good.
yeah but pop music is also popular/always on the radio etc and if you break its structure down, it's shit
just because the majority of people like something, it doesn't mean everyone who doesn't is "wrong" or "defective"
just because the majority of people like something, it doesn't mean everyone who doesn't is "wrong" or "defective"
Yeah it does. You think evolution made it so that fat people are the ones with superior genetics? Of course not. There's a reason why everyone likes what they like, because it serves an evolutionary purpose. Anyone who's fat would have not been able to escape predators back in the day, hence why we have a preference for someone that's fit because that means they have higher survival value. Anyone that doesn't prefer that is going against their evolutionary programming, hence they're a defect. Simple as that. Either a defect or really desperate.awp wrote:
yeah but pop music is also popular/always on the radio etc and if you break its structure down, it's shit
just because the majority of people like something, it doesn't mean everyone who doesn't is "wrong" or "defective"
That may have been more relevant a couple hundred thousand years ago than it is now, but predators have kind of gone to the wayside. Fat people store heat better, so that has its own survival value, since some parts of the world are still cold.NeverDie wrote:
Anyone who's fat would have not been able to escape predators back in the day, hence why we have a preference for someone that's fit because that means they have higher survival value.
I'm pretty sure being a homosexual falls under going against evolutionary programming, and I'm pretty sure you're calling homosexuals defective. That makes your beliefs appear rooted in intolerance more than anything else, and that's going to make it hard for myself (and probably a few others) to take your words seriously. Like, not just the ones in this thread. Any of 'em.NeverDie wrote:
Anyone that doesn't prefer that is going against their evolutionary programming, hence they're a defect. Simple as that. Either a defect or really desperate.
Homosexuals ARE defective rofl. They wouldn't be here if their parents were homos too. Another thing you're also forgetting is that evolution takes course through millions of years. We are still the same biological entity that was here 100,000 years ago, we haven't changed at all. I just think everyone that's disagreeing with me is retarded and in plain denial, but in the end, I really don't care rofl. I'm not the one going to be screwing fatties and keep living in self-denial that, that's what I really want, it's everyone else in this thread with that mentality. Pretty sad one if you ask me, but hey to each his own. There's a good reason why people like that are the minority.awp wrote:
That may have been more relevant a couple hundred thousand years ago than it is now, but predators have kind of gone to the wayside. Fat people store heat better, so that has its own survival value, since some parts of the world are still cold.NeverDie wrote:
Anyone who's fat would have not been able to escape predators back in the day, hence why we have a preference for someone that's fit because that means they have higher survival value.I'm pretty sure being a homosexual falls under going against evolutionary programming, and I'm pretty sure you're calling homosexuals defective. That makes your beliefs appear rooted in intolerance more than anything else, and that's going to make it hard for myself (and probably a few others) to take your words seriously. Like, not just the ones in this thread. Any of 'em.NeverDie wrote:
Anyone that doesn't prefer that is going against their evolutionary programming, hence they're a defect. Simple as that. Either a defect or really desperate.
I suggest you have a read of Jim McKnight's Straight science?: Homosexuality, evolution and adaptation.
Your understanding of the evolutionary concept is extremely flawed and borderlines on flat out ignorance. Either read up, or shut up.
Your understanding of the evolutionary concept is extremely flawed and borderlines on flat out ignorance. Either read up, or shut up.
I still don't get how me getting a boner for a fat bitch and me not-getting a boner for a skinny bitch is denial.
Also, with all this talk of evolution, I think I'm going to pull creationism into the mix and say your entire backup argument is bullshit.
And, as you say, being fat isn't hereditary, and while habits and some features may follow in with children the child isn't necessarily inferior genetically than if the mother was skinny.
Come at me bro.
Also, with all this talk of evolution, I think I'm going to pull creationism into the mix and say your entire backup argument is bullshit.
And, as you say, being fat isn't hereditary, and while habits and some features may follow in with children the child isn't necessarily inferior genetically than if the mother was skinny.
Come at me bro.
Don't even bother. NeverDie has no fucking idea what he's talking about.Pokebis wrote:
I still don't get how me getting a boner for a fat bitch and me not-getting a boner for a skinny bitch is denial.
Also, with all this talk of evolution, I think I'm going to pull creationism into the mix and say your entire backup argument is bullshit.
And, as you say, being fat isn't hereditary, and while habits and some features may follow in with children the child isn't necessarily inferior genetically than if the mother was skinny.
Come at me bro.
"Evolutionary programming", "defence mechanism", "survival of the fittest".
*Chuckles*
I remember when I used to think like this too.
*Chuckles*
I remember when I used to think like this too.
Fat women were originally symbols of fertility, power, and beauty. Women were never culturally hunters. The ability to indulge showed superiority.
genetic evolutionNeverDie wrote:
evolution takes course through millions of years
nowadays we have science for things like that. Predators? Invent a gun. Cold snap? Turn the heater on inside the house you built. Flood? Live in a helicopter.
Times and scientific advancements have changed to the point where survival is almost directly proportional to wealth, which kind of undermines your argument from a strictly aesthetic perspective.
You also remain in denial about the concept of personal preference but, like you said, to each their own
I like how he finished with, "to each his own."
\:D/ I can't wait to see how NeverDie feels when he gets old, fat, and wrinkly.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you on any of your points, I am just here to be a pedantic and mention wisdom teeth.NeverDie wrote:
We are still the same biological entity that was here 100,000 years ago, we haven't changed at all.
Jakes on you, I have superior genetics. I'm never getting fat haha. I'll be slim till the day I die no matter how much I eat, all the men on my father's and mother's side are like that. Not to mention I won't start getting gray hair till I'm over 65 and even then it won't be much either rofl. But we can't all be so lucky in the genetic pool, such is life.Vext wrote:
\:D/ I can't wait to see how NeverDie feels when he gets old, fat, and wrinkly.
NeverDie wrote:
I have superior genetics. I'm never getting fat haha. I'll be slim till the day I die no matter how much I eat, all the men on my father's and mother's side are like that.
NeverDie wrote:
My point is, it's a CHOICE that people are fat.
For most people yeah, but for people like me that are ectomorphs (google that if you don't know what it is), we don't have to worry about what we eat. We eat what ever, and as much as we want, and we can't get fat. And although most of them do end up getting overweight once past the age of 50, if my family's history is any indicator, I won't have that problem ever, till the day I die.Jarby wrote:
NeverDie wrote:
I have superior genetics. I'm never getting fat haha. I'll be slim till the day I die no matter how much I eat, all the men on my father's and mother's side are like that.NeverDie wrote:
My point is, it's a CHOICE that people are fat.
Sheldon's theories enjoyed a vogue as the "pop-psych flavor of the month" through the 1950s.[3] Modern scientists, however, generally (with occasional exceptions[4][5], some relying on outdated - 1978 or prior - studies) dismiss his claims as outdated, if not outright quackery."Nude Photos Are Sealed At Smithsonian". New York Times. January 21, 1995. Retrieved December 1, 2011. "Later, other photographs were taken by W. H. Sheldon, a researcher who believed that there was a relationship between body shape and intelligence and other traits. Mr. Sheldon has since died, and his work has long been dismissed by most scientists as quackery. ..."</ref>It doesn't make sense for someone to consume literally any amount of food and gain nothing anyway.
Jarby wrote:
Sheldon's theories enjoyed a vogue as the "pop-psych flavor of the month" through the 1950s.[3] Modern scientists, however, generally (with occasional exceptions[4][5], some relying on outdated - 1978 or prior - studies) dismiss his claims as outdated, if not outright quackery."Nude Photos Are Sealed At Smithsonian". New York Times. January 21, 1995. Retrieved December 1, 2011. "Later, other photographs were taken by W. H. Sheldon, a researcher who believed that there was a relationship between body shape and intelligence and other traits. Mr. Sheldon has since died, and his work has long been dismissed by most scientists as quackery. ..."</ref>It doesn't make sense for someone to consume literally any amount of food and gain nothing anyway.
My point is, I've been on 4k calories per day diet to bulk up and I don't gain any fat at all. I've had a 6 pack since I was 11. I never work out my abs, only the rest of my body and they're still there. It's called dat dere genetics bro. All the men on my father's side were athletes or lifted weights, and I was no exception.
Point is, genetics makes it easier for some to gain fat, and very hard for others to gain fat. Maybe if I ate 6-8k calories a day that would do something, but that's like eating as much as 3 people per day. Don't see how that'll ever happen on a constant basis for me.
Yay for metabolisms!
Except mine is in total overdrive :<
Except mine is in total overdrive :<
so wait, you've been trying to bulk up to get even bigger tits?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAfoulcoon wrote:
so wait, you've been trying to bulk up to get even bigger tits?
I love you foulcoon
I like how your idea of superior genetics is having larger muscles than other people. Judging from your story and incredibly misguided concept of genetic evolution I can guess it's probably just what your parents have been telling you since you were young.
It seems that almost every single pioneer of science, engineering and technology in history wouldn't fit into your category since they spent their time moving society forward with their breakthroughs rather than working out on their physical fitness. You are better than all of the people who are the reason you're here making yourself look like an idiot on the internet.
You are clearly better than all of them.
It seems that almost every single pioneer of science, engineering and technology in history wouldn't fit into your category since they spent their time moving society forward with their breakthroughs rather than working out on their physical fitness. You are better than all of the people who are the reason you're here making yourself look like an idiot on the internet.
You are clearly better than all of them.
They were inferior as they improved the lives of others rather than themselves. They couldn't do shit if a rhino attacked.
Who says you can't do both? Working out only takes like 60-90 minutes a day, there's no excuse. Potatoes gonna potate. Seems like someone's in huge denial, but I'm sure it helps you cope with your looks, so I can't blame you or anyone else in this thread.Shellghost wrote:
I like how your idea of superior genetics is having larger muscles than other people. Judging from your story and incredibly misguided concept of genetic evolution I can guess it's probably just what your parents have been telling you since you were young.
It seems that almost every single pioneer of science, engineering and technology in history wouldn't fit into your category since they spent their time moving society forward with their breakthroughs rather than working out on their physical fitness. You are better than all of the people who are the reason you're here making yourself look like an idiot on the internet.
You are clearly better than all of them.
Calories aren't a very good measure for weight gain if you're physically active. Calories are basically energy. Unused calories eventually become fat, but that's also literally wasted energy. So trying to lose weight by strictly following a calorie guide is unwise.
You can actually get away with like a 30 minute routine, 3 or 4 days a week, and maintain a good fitness level. I'll do that as soon as I figure out a way to make it entertaining. Maybe I'll mount a TV on the wall facing the home gym. That'd do the trick.
You can actually get away with like a 30 minute routine, 3 or 4 days a week, and maintain a good fitness level. I'll do that as soon as I figure out a way to make it entertaining. Maybe I'll mount a TV on the wall facing the home gym. That'd do the trick.