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Feels bad, man.
Lost respect from that guy.
I would cry, bro.
Lost respect from that guy.
I would cry, bro.
Oh yeah, right, I forgot that jokes don't exist on the Internet because the Internet is SERIOUS BUSINESS. Excuse me. Also, I'm not American, I am a dirty immigrant.ShangMing wrote:
You must be American because you are fat?
They deleted my epic posts.
removed the literal shitposts as they risked intervening with the glory of this thread
I'm not sure whether I like or am disappointed in how uptight posts in this thread have been. It's been entertaining, but at the same time if I were expecting what is said in this thread (not the core argument, the subsequent bickering) to be serious, I'd have to consider everyone an idiot.
NeverDie's opinion of "fat people are not attractive" is his opinion of what isn't an appealing body figure or preference. That's on topic, and people don't really have any business telling him otherwise. It's dismissing the opinions of others as bullshit that makes you a massive cunt - to outright say "your opinions on specific physical forms/shapes are a detriment to society" is the kind of dick move that would derail a thread like this into a discussion of opinions rather than an opinion on the discussion topic. I'm not going to say that's exactly what happened at the end of the first page
but you're welcome to point it out, GD
I'm not sure whether I like or am disappointed in how uptight posts in this thread have been. It's been entertaining, but at the same time if I were expecting what is said in this thread (not the core argument, the subsequent bickering) to be serious, I'd have to consider everyone an idiot.
NeverDie's opinion of "fat people are not attractive" is his opinion of what isn't an appealing body figure or preference. That's on topic, and people don't really have any business telling him otherwise. It's dismissing the opinions of others as bullshit that makes you a massive cunt - to outright say "your opinions on specific physical forms/shapes are a detriment to society" is the kind of dick move that would derail a thread like this into a discussion of opinions rather than an opinion on the discussion topic. I'm not going to say that's exactly what happened at the end of the first page
but you're welcome to point it out, GD
ShangMing makes some good arguments, but some people make the lifestyle choice of being fat. Not taking care of yourself involves actual neglect of health and ignoring sanitation and such.
Like others have said, you can be chubby and still be healthy. Having an "optimal" (buffed out) figure isn't really always the right answer and would severely alter some people's busy, financial lives, or even their relationships. I've seen guys start to turn into fitness nuts to impress their girl only to have their girl dump them because of it. It all goes back to personal opinions.
And unsanitary people are always gross to me. Shower, people. (And yes, the internet has shown there are slob fetishists too)
Like others have said, you can be chubby and still be healthy. Having an "optimal" (buffed out) figure isn't really always the right answer and would severely alter some people's busy, financial lives, or even their relationships. I've seen guys start to turn into fitness nuts to impress their girl only to have their girl dump them because of it. It all goes back to personal opinions.
And unsanitary people are always gross to me. Shower, people. (And yes, the internet has shown there are slob fetishists too)
You're my dirty immigrant, baby~.Firo Prochainezo wrote:
Oh yeah, right, I forgot that jokes don't exist on the Internet because the Internet is SERIOUS BUSINESS. Excuse me. Also, I'm not American, I am a dirty immigrant.ShangMing wrote:
You must be American because you are fat?
Wasn't that stated in like the second para?NeverDie wrote:
This thread was all about you in the first place. There is no friend, it was you all along. So obvious.failboat wrote:
Well fortunately they managed to in the end patch it all up, and get back together again
~~~drama~~~~
If it's about failboat, or failboat's friend, it doesn't matter! It's still about failboat wit the relation of friend and klsjgilkjdfkgdgdfg. DUH.
Y U MAKE ME SO MAD?
asd
The reason NeverDie is getting flamed is because he is stating his "opinion" as fact, and that opinion happens to be very objectionable, especially in this community.awp wrote:
NeverDie's opinion of "fat people are not attractive" is his opinion of what isn't an appealing body figure or preference. That's on topic, and people don't really have any business telling him otherwise.
I like my women how I like my vodka. 12 years old and mixed with coke.
Nah, but I like women to be shorter than I am (I'm 1.78m, which is quite short in the Netherlands)
Also long hair and ass.
Nothing wrong with a girl who has a bit (A BIT) of meat, but fat is disgusting though, like NeverDie already said.
Nah, but I like women to be shorter than I am (I'm 1.78m, which is quite short in the Netherlands)
Also long hair and ass.
Nothing wrong with a girl who has a bit (A BIT) of meat, but fat is disgusting though, like NeverDie already said.
A long ass ?
yes.
Awesome.
A little FisHie.
Whales are much larger.
Whales are much larger.
I feel like it's important to address the OP first as that was the point of the thread: If someone feels bad about their own looks, then they should stop thinking about it, and take action to change what they don't like while they keep every quality they're proud of. This is what I think every hardworking attractive person in this world does. Just think, are some people are just blessed with good looks? Fuck no, they probably had to work their asses off, and it's a full time job, just like popularity in highschool, any paying job or manual labor. Research, learn, apply, take action, and don't break your discipline. This is why I respect every well-built man and any fine looking women with sexy curves. They must have put a lot of time and dedication into how they looked WHILE balancing everything else in this life that we seem to find important these days. <3
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I love girls who have a very tone body with curves because it's attractive to me. I like girls who grow their hair out and manage it very well, but only let it down when they want to look their finest. A pleasant and attractive voice will always get my attention and make me listen. Smooth and healthy skin makes me want to touch them and take care of them. Lastly a well shaped and cute face is most important out of everything as it makes me smile.
All of this is what is most important to attract healthy, strong, well-groomed, intelligent and powerful men in the very beginning.
After that it comes down to their personality, if they have a great personality, they're a keeper that you continue to love. If they fail to be very tolerable, you have sex with them and move on.
I believe in Darwinism especially after reading the book "The Moral Animal."
Just like NeverDie, I think only a moron would disregard the attractive qualities of looking good. Those are first and foremost to building attraction for a strong relationship. Trust me though, I don't look anywhere near as good as NeverDie either.
I find it really really easy to find attractive qualities in most people in the world, I just don't think it's worth it to ignore things that everyone can agree is important such as looks, social intuition, and confidence.
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I love girls who have a very tone body with curves because it's attractive to me. I like girls who grow their hair out and manage it very well, but only let it down when they want to look their finest. A pleasant and attractive voice will always get my attention and make me listen. Smooth and healthy skin makes me want to touch them and take care of them. Lastly a well shaped and cute face is most important out of everything as it makes me smile.
All of this is what is most important to attract healthy, strong, well-groomed, intelligent and powerful men in the very beginning.
After that it comes down to their personality, if they have a great personality, they're a keeper that you continue to love. If they fail to be very tolerable, you have sex with them and move on.
I believe in Darwinism especially after reading the book "The Moral Animal."
Just like NeverDie, I think only a moron would disregard the attractive qualities of looking good. Those are first and foremost to building attraction for a strong relationship. Trust me though, I don't look anywhere near as good as NeverDie either.
I find it really really easy to find attractive qualities in most people in the world, I just don't think it's worth it to ignore things that everyone can agree is important such as looks, social intuition, and confidence.
inb4 plastic surgery.
Hahaha, I don't think of it as a bad thing, absolutely not.mathexpert9981 wrote:
inb4 plastic surgery.
Hard work makes good money.
Hard work makes good looks.
Good money pays for good looks.
I suppose?
Plastic surgery? "Those aren't boobs! THEY'RE LIES!!!!"
I find that someone insecure enough to get plastic surgery is very unattractive, even if it doesn't look horribly artificial.
That assumes that getting plastic surgery is an insecure behavior. I don't see how that is the case. But you are entitled to your biases.mathexpert9981 wrote:
I find that someone insecure enough to get plastic surgery is very unattractive, even if it doesn't look horribly artificial.
A counter argument can be made that its insecure to dislike someone purely because they have had plastic surgery in their life.
You're argument completely stands if it is your current girlfriend/spouse asking you to pay for her plastic surgery. That's gold digging, and she can pay for it if she wants to better herself. HER WORK is what should make plastic surgery legitimate.
To me, as an individual, I find the act of plastic surgery appalling regardless of the circumstances. The only way I see it justified is if the person was injured in a way that heavily altered their physical appearance in the first place such as a burn.
But I assume it falls into body modification in general as I also don't like piercings or tattoos/body art.
Staying fit and hygienic is always a great pursuit that does deserve a proper amount of effort, but paying your way into a permanent costume isn't appealing to me a single bit.
But I assume it falls into body modification in general as I also don't like piercings or tattoos/body art.
Staying fit and hygienic is always a great pursuit that does deserve a proper amount of effort, but paying your way into a permanent costume isn't appealing to me a single bit.
I find plastic surgery alright. Those who benefit foremost are the ones around the individual. No one's a loser. Unless the plastic surgeon screws up.
NEVERDIE ALWAYS LIESVext wrote:
Plastic surgery? "Those aren't boobs! THEY'RE LIES!!!!"
As long as you're smart enough to realize "looking good" is relative to each individual's preferences, then yeah I'd say soB12ad wrote:
Just like NeverDie, I think only a moron would disregard the attractive qualities of looking good.
strictly trolling without at least wrapping your post in a thin disguise of an argument is NOT ACCEPTABLED33d wrote:
NEVERDIE ALWAYS LIESVext wrote:
Plastic surgery? "Those aren't boobs! THEY'RE LIES!!!!"
we're looking for SOME effort
Major consensus is that a well toned and fit body is the ideal look. There's people who even have sex with dogs, pigs, monkeys, and yes, fat people. Those people are not the norm and have obvious mental defects to certain extents.awp wrote:
As long as you're smart enough to realize "looking good" is relative to each individual's preferences, then yeah I'd say soB12ad wrote:
Just like NeverDie, I think only a moron would disregard the attractive qualities of looking good.
yeah but pop music is also popular/always on the radio etc and if you break its structure down, it's shit
just because the majority of people like something, it doesn't mean everyone who doesn't is "wrong" or "defective"
just because the majority of people like something, it doesn't mean everyone who doesn't is "wrong" or "defective"
Yeah it does. You think evolution made it so that fat people are the ones with superior genetics? Of course not. There's a reason why everyone likes what they like, because it serves an evolutionary purpose. Anyone who's fat would have not been able to escape predators back in the day, hence why we have a preference for someone that's fit because that means they have higher survival value. Anyone that doesn't prefer that is going against their evolutionary programming, hence they're a defect. Simple as that. Either a defect or really desperate.awp wrote:
yeah but pop music is also popular/always on the radio etc and if you break its structure down, it's shit
just because the majority of people like something, it doesn't mean everyone who doesn't is "wrong" or "defective"
That may have been more relevant a couple hundred thousand years ago than it is now, but predators have kind of gone to the wayside. Fat people store heat better, so that has its own survival value, since some parts of the world are still cold.NeverDie wrote:
Anyone who's fat would have not been able to escape predators back in the day, hence why we have a preference for someone that's fit because that means they have higher survival value.
I'm pretty sure being a homosexual falls under going against evolutionary programming, and I'm pretty sure you're calling homosexuals defective. That makes your beliefs appear rooted in intolerance more than anything else, and that's going to make it hard for myself (and probably a few others) to take your words seriously. Like, not just the ones in this thread. Any of 'em.NeverDie wrote:
Anyone that doesn't prefer that is going against their evolutionary programming, hence they're a defect. Simple as that. Either a defect or really desperate.
Homosexuals ARE defective rofl. They wouldn't be here if their parents were homos too. Another thing you're also forgetting is that evolution takes course through millions of years. We are still the same biological entity that was here 100,000 years ago, we haven't changed at all. I just think everyone that's disagreeing with me is retarded and in plain denial, but in the end, I really don't care rofl. I'm not the one going to be screwing fatties and keep living in self-denial that, that's what I really want, it's everyone else in this thread with that mentality. Pretty sad one if you ask me, but hey to each his own. There's a good reason why people like that are the minority.awp wrote:
That may have been more relevant a couple hundred thousand years ago than it is now, but predators have kind of gone to the wayside. Fat people store heat better, so that has its own survival value, since some parts of the world are still cold.NeverDie wrote:
Anyone who's fat would have not been able to escape predators back in the day, hence why we have a preference for someone that's fit because that means they have higher survival value.I'm pretty sure being a homosexual falls under going against evolutionary programming, and I'm pretty sure you're calling homosexuals defective. That makes your beliefs appear rooted in intolerance more than anything else, and that's going to make it hard for myself (and probably a few others) to take your words seriously. Like, not just the ones in this thread. Any of 'em.NeverDie wrote:
Anyone that doesn't prefer that is going against their evolutionary programming, hence they're a defect. Simple as that. Either a defect or really desperate.
I suggest you have a read of Jim McKnight's Straight science?: Homosexuality, evolution and adaptation.
Your understanding of the evolutionary concept is extremely flawed and borderlines on flat out ignorance. Either read up, or shut up.
Your understanding of the evolutionary concept is extremely flawed and borderlines on flat out ignorance. Either read up, or shut up.
I still don't get how me getting a boner for a fat bitch and me not-getting a boner for a skinny bitch is denial.
Also, with all this talk of evolution, I think I'm going to pull creationism into the mix and say your entire backup argument is bullshit.
And, as you say, being fat isn't hereditary, and while habits and some features may follow in with children the child isn't necessarily inferior genetically than if the mother was skinny.
Come at me bro.
Also, with all this talk of evolution, I think I'm going to pull creationism into the mix and say your entire backup argument is bullshit.
And, as you say, being fat isn't hereditary, and while habits and some features may follow in with children the child isn't necessarily inferior genetically than if the mother was skinny.
Come at me bro.
Don't even bother. NeverDie has no fucking idea what he's talking about.Pokebis wrote:
I still don't get how me getting a boner for a fat bitch and me not-getting a boner for a skinny bitch is denial.
Also, with all this talk of evolution, I think I'm going to pull creationism into the mix and say your entire backup argument is bullshit.
And, as you say, being fat isn't hereditary, and while habits and some features may follow in with children the child isn't necessarily inferior genetically than if the mother was skinny.
Come at me bro.
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Fat women were originally symbols of fertility, power, and beauty. Women were never culturally hunters. The ability to indulge showed superiority.
genetic evolutionNeverDie wrote:
evolution takes course through millions of years
nowadays we have science for things like that. Predators? Invent a gun. Cold snap? Turn the heater on inside the house you built. Flood? Live in a helicopter.
Times and scientific advancements have changed to the point where survival is almost directly proportional to wealth, which kind of undermines your argument from a strictly aesthetic perspective.
You also remain in denial about the concept of personal preference but, like you said, to each their own
I like how he finished with, "to each his own."
\:D/ I can't wait to see how NeverDie feels when he gets old, fat, and wrinkly.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you on any of your points, I am just here to be a pedantic and mention wisdom teeth.NeverDie wrote:
We are still the same biological entity that was here 100,000 years ago, we haven't changed at all.
Jakes on you, I have superior genetics. I'm never getting fat haha. I'll be slim till the day I die no matter how much I eat, all the men on my father's and mother's side are like that. Not to mention I won't start getting gray hair till I'm over 65 and even then it won't be much either rofl. But we can't all be so lucky in the genetic pool, such is life.Vext wrote:
\:D/ I can't wait to see how NeverDie feels when he gets old, fat, and wrinkly.
NeverDie wrote:
I have superior genetics. I'm never getting fat haha. I'll be slim till the day I die no matter how much I eat, all the men on my father's and mother's side are like that.
NeverDie wrote:
My point is, it's a CHOICE that people are fat.
For most people yeah, but for people like me that are ectomorphs (google that if you don't know what it is), we don't have to worry about what we eat. We eat what ever, and as much as we want, and we can't get fat. And although most of them do end up getting overweight once past the age of 50, if my family's history is any indicator, I won't have that problem ever, till the day I die.Jarby wrote:
NeverDie wrote:
I have superior genetics. I'm never getting fat haha. I'll be slim till the day I die no matter how much I eat, all the men on my father's and mother's side are like that.NeverDie wrote:
My point is, it's a CHOICE that people are fat.
Sheldon's theories enjoyed a vogue as the "pop-psych flavor of the month" through the 1950s.[3] Modern scientists, however, generally (with occasional exceptions[4][5], some relying on outdated - 1978 or prior - studies) dismiss his claims as outdated, if not outright quackery."Nude Photos Are Sealed At Smithsonian". New York Times. January 21, 1995. Retrieved December 1, 2011. "Later, other photographs were taken by W. H. Sheldon, a researcher who believed that there was a relationship between body shape and intelligence and other traits. Mr. Sheldon has since died, and his work has long been dismissed by most scientists as quackery. ..."</ref>It doesn't make sense for someone to consume literally any amount of food and gain nothing anyway.
Jarby wrote:
Sheldon's theories enjoyed a vogue as the "pop-psych flavor of the month" through the 1950s.[3] Modern scientists, however, generally (with occasional exceptions[4][5], some relying on outdated - 1978 or prior - studies) dismiss his claims as outdated, if not outright quackery."Nude Photos Are Sealed At Smithsonian". New York Times. January 21, 1995. Retrieved December 1, 2011. "Later, other photographs were taken by W. H. Sheldon, a researcher who believed that there was a relationship between body shape and intelligence and other traits. Mr. Sheldon has since died, and his work has long been dismissed by most scientists as quackery. ..."</ref>It doesn't make sense for someone to consume literally any amount of food and gain nothing anyway.
My point is, I've been on 4k calories per day diet to bulk up and I don't gain any fat at all. I've had a 6 pack since I was 11. I never work out my abs, only the rest of my body and they're still there. It's called dat dere genetics bro. All the men on my father's side were athletes or lifted weights, and I was no exception.
Point is, genetics makes it easier for some to gain fat, and very hard for others to gain fat. Maybe if I ate 6-8k calories a day that would do something, but that's like eating as much as 3 people per day. Don't see how that'll ever happen on a constant basis for me.
Yay for metabolisms!
Except mine is in total overdrive :<
Except mine is in total overdrive :<
so wait, you've been trying to bulk up to get even bigger tits?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAfoulcoon wrote:
so wait, you've been trying to bulk up to get even bigger tits?
I love you foulcoon
I like how your idea of superior genetics is having larger muscles than other people. Judging from your story and incredibly misguided concept of genetic evolution I can guess it's probably just what your parents have been telling you since you were young.
It seems that almost every single pioneer of science, engineering and technology in history wouldn't fit into your category since they spent their time moving society forward with their breakthroughs rather than working out on their physical fitness. You are better than all of the people who are the reason you're here making yourself look like an idiot on the internet.
You are clearly better than all of them.
It seems that almost every single pioneer of science, engineering and technology in history wouldn't fit into your category since they spent their time moving society forward with their breakthroughs rather than working out on their physical fitness. You are better than all of the people who are the reason you're here making yourself look like an idiot on the internet.
You are clearly better than all of them.
They were inferior as they improved the lives of others rather than themselves. They couldn't do shit if a rhino attacked.
Who says you can't do both? Working out only takes like 60-90 minutes a day, there's no excuse. Potatoes gonna potate. Seems like someone's in huge denial, but I'm sure it helps you cope with your looks, so I can't blame you or anyone else in this thread.Shellghost wrote:
I like how your idea of superior genetics is having larger muscles than other people. Judging from your story and incredibly misguided concept of genetic evolution I can guess it's probably just what your parents have been telling you since you were young.
It seems that almost every single pioneer of science, engineering and technology in history wouldn't fit into your category since they spent their time moving society forward with their breakthroughs rather than working out on their physical fitness. You are better than all of the people who are the reason you're here making yourself look like an idiot on the internet.
You are clearly better than all of them.
Calories aren't a very good measure for weight gain if you're physically active. Calories are basically energy. Unused calories eventually become fat, but that's also literally wasted energy. So trying to lose weight by strictly following a calorie guide is unwise.
You can actually get away with like a 30 minute routine, 3 or 4 days a week, and maintain a good fitness level. I'll do that as soon as I figure out a way to make it entertaining. Maybe I'll mount a TV on the wall facing the home gym. That'd do the trick.
You can actually get away with like a 30 minute routine, 3 or 4 days a week, and maintain a good fitness level. I'll do that as soon as I figure out a way to make it entertaining. Maybe I'll mount a TV on the wall facing the home gym. That'd do the trick.
Back on topic, for me a good looking person is very hard to define. I do like most girls generally but I might have a preference with long hair, but I also would like a girl with a good personality. I mean I don't care how hot the girl is, if she's a jerk, I wouldn't be caught near her.
Oh and guys, you're talking to NeverDie. Just let the guy have his fun and believe what he wants, he is entitled to his own opinion just like everyone else(no matter how wrong it is).
Oh and guys, you're talking to NeverDie. Just let the guy have his fun and believe what he wants, he is entitled to his own opinion just like everyone else(no matter how wrong it is).
When I don't play DDR I'll occasionally use an elliptical machine or something while I play video games. It's something you barely notice. Or you could ghetto rig a DDR pad up to your PC or something and play Skyrim with it. I do random shit like that sometimes too. 1 step on mat = 1 step in game.awp wrote:
You can actually get away with like a 30 minute routine, 3 or 4 days a week, and maintain a good fitness level. I'll do that as soon as I figure out a way to make it entertaining. Maybe I'll mount a TV on the wall facing the home gym. That'd do the trick.
I don't really have a routine or anything, though; as I'm kind of like NeverDie and just stay skinny-fit no matter what I do. But I do naturally pace a lot. Which will occasionally evolve into skipping. This is inside, but I have my own routes I built around the house. :p
i'm pretty sure there isn't anything any person in the world who could do shit without modern technology if a rhino wanted them dead. just saying. humans are naturally weak as fuck compared to most animals on the planet. smaller weaker slower, but pretty good endurance.Pokebis wrote:
They couldn't do shit if a rhino attacked.
Calorie counting is actually one of the better ways to either gain or lose weight. There have been some people who, to prove a point, ate a certain amount of what I think was Twinkies or some Hostess snack with a supplement of vegetables, and kept it to about 1500 calories a day and lost several pounds in a couple of months. Of course, it was very unhealthy since they were getting no real nutrition, but it proved the point that calories is one of the biggest factors in any diet.awp wrote:
Calories aren't a very good measure for weight gain if you're physically active. Calories are basically energy. Unused calories eventually become fat, but that's also literally wasted energy. So trying to lose weight by strictly following a calorie guide is unwise.
You can actually get away with like a 30 minute routine, 3 or 4 days a week, and maintain a good fitness level. I'll do that as soon as I figure out a way to make it entertaining. Maybe I'll mount a TV on the wall facing the home gym. That'd do the trick.
But I guess you are correct in the sense that you said "strictly following" so I don't know why I posted I just felt like rambling
You are being ignorant. Who's to say there aren't people who enjoy fat men and/or women? Your views are misguided and if you knew even the slightest bit about sexuality there's no way and hell you'd come up with such a stupid statement.NeverDie wrote:
Don't know what world you live in buddy, but being overweight isn't attractive at all. Anyone that says looks don't matter are in serious denial. Then again I guess that's their defense mechanism of coping with their own looks. Going out with fat people is like rewarding bad behavior. Shows that you don't care even for your own health, and that's not very attractive.
In fact, you encourage treating fat people like dogs -- wow. What a horrible person you are. Please, for the sake of living in the same society as I do, either silence yourself or perhaps stop hanging around like-minded people; it's clearly not doing anything for your intelligence.
...or just go back to /fit/ and deny your homosexuality while, at the same time, admiring "motivation pics".
Or I'll just link you mine.
Do you even lift? also, this thread is tl;dr
More on a scientific note, you might be surprised but Ectomorphs have to eat more and less exercise to get buff (As in short periods of exercise but very vigorous according to internet). But fact is this, if you are an ectomorph and you don't exercise cause your metabolism rate is like that, it's equally as bad to a fat person with no exercise. Without exercise, you won't be fully excreting the toxins and built-up waste in your body, which can pose a high threat to a person's health. Believe me, no matter if you're fat or not, as long as you exercise, you can stay healthy. If you don't, I don't think being 30 Kg lighter is going to really help(It will, but you are still at risk as long as you don't exercise). Cause this world, it has a lot of work arounds, for mankind and diseases alike. Not joking here.
I am an ectomorph, I don't get fat like NeverDie no matter how much I eat. Do I feel special among fat people? No, of course not. Why? I find other people more friendly than me and can do much greater things than me. So body size alone doesn't really equal to superior genes IMO. Being an ectomorph or in simple terms, a person who can't gain weight easily is not superior genetics I believe. I have 6 packs too, but it's due to the fact I'm thin. Get this fact, to get packs, you can either go thin, or build muscles. So in other words, having 6 packs, could be because of being thin, simple as that. As long as a person don't exercise, that's bad. I do go fortunately but for really light ones, not planning to build heaps of muscles though.
But frankly back to the topic, is good looks important? Of course it is. They always say first impressions counts. But then comes the second impression, personality. As long as a person has a nasty personality, don't think I'll ever come to like him/her. Conclusion? If I had a choice to go with a pretty girl or an mediocre one. Of course I'd go for the pretty one. But if her personality sucks, nothing I can do about that, I think the oil and water effect will occur over time. A mediocre girl with a super fun and nice personality with a few bad words thrown in and what not? The heck, I guess I can mix with her.
Is dating a fat person wrong? Nope don't think so. Everyone has their own personal opinion. I like my cake with ice cream. Is it wrong for you to like it with whip cream? Don't think so.
What I'm trying to say here is that nobody is perfect. They can work to perfection, but that takes a lot of time and effort. Which frankly speaking, I think I'd rather live my life happy than struggling and painful to reach perfection.
Personal opinion here you know, SOLELY PERSONAL OPINION, it is not fact neither truth, except for probably the first paragraph. Don't mean to offend anyone here. And if I did, sorry in advance. I mean, seriously, I don't want to offend anyone here.
I am an ectomorph, I don't get fat like NeverDie no matter how much I eat. Do I feel special among fat people? No, of course not. Why? I find other people more friendly than me and can do much greater things than me. So body size alone doesn't really equal to superior genes IMO. Being an ectomorph or in simple terms, a person who can't gain weight easily is not superior genetics I believe. I have 6 packs too, but it's due to the fact I'm thin. Get this fact, to get packs, you can either go thin, or build muscles. So in other words, having 6 packs, could be because of being thin, simple as that. As long as a person don't exercise, that's bad. I do go fortunately but for really light ones, not planning to build heaps of muscles though.
But frankly back to the topic, is good looks important? Of course it is. They always say first impressions counts. But then comes the second impression, personality. As long as a person has a nasty personality, don't think I'll ever come to like him/her. Conclusion? If I had a choice to go with a pretty girl or an mediocre one. Of course I'd go for the pretty one. But if her personality sucks, nothing I can do about that, I think the oil and water effect will occur over time. A mediocre girl with a super fun and nice personality with a few bad words thrown in and what not? The heck, I guess I can mix with her.
Is dating a fat person wrong? Nope don't think so. Everyone has their own personal opinion. I like my cake with ice cream. Is it wrong for you to like it with whip cream? Don't think so.
What I'm trying to say here is that nobody is perfect. They can work to perfection, but that takes a lot of time and effort. Which frankly speaking, I think I'd rather live my life happy than struggling and painful to reach perfection.
Personal opinion here you know, SOLELY PERSONAL OPINION, it is not fact neither truth, except for probably the first paragraph. Don't mean to offend anyone here. And if I did, sorry in advance. I mean, seriously, I don't want to offend anyone here.
I have a better body than your idol, maybe you should start mirin me instead. Come at me bro.Sync wrote:
You are being ignorant. Who's to say there aren't people who enjoy fat men and/or women? Your views are misguided and if you knew even the slightest bit about sexuality there's no way and hell you'd come up with such a stupid statement.NeverDie wrote:
Don't know what world you live in buddy, but being overweight isn't attractive at all. Anyone that says looks don't matter are in serious denial. Then again I guess that's their defense mechanism of coping with their own looks. Going out with fat people is like rewarding bad behavior. Shows that you don't care even for your own health, and that's not very attractive.
In fact, you encourage treating fat people like dogs -- wow. What a horrible person you are. Please, for the sake of living in the same society as I do, either silence yourself or perhaps stop hanging around like-minded people; it's clearly not doing anything for your intelligence.
...or just go back to /fit/ and deny your homosexuality while, at the same time, admiring "motivation pics".
Or I'll just link you mine.
Do you even lift? also, this thread is tl;dr
i'm actually kind of concerned for you neverdie
i think you may want to visit a therapist. the thread has been all laughs up until a point, but i kind of realise now that you need serious help. had a look through some of my textbooks and i think you may be suffering from quite a pertinent case of narcissism personality disorder. i'm not joking here bro - i know you're hurting and it's tough, but you can hit me up if you want some assistance finding some self-help stuff to tide you through
seriously man, you don't have to keep putting up with it. i feel kind of bad for laughing at you now
let's not continue the conversation in this manner further. people are starting to get hurt now, that much is obvious.
EDIT: by the way, ectomorph does not mean what you think it means. you would be mesomorphs, not ectomorphs if you could continually eat without gaining weight or other negative detriment. stop using wikipedia for your definitions, jeez (source: Sheldon, Varieties of Human Physique)
i think you may want to visit a therapist. the thread has been all laughs up until a point, but i kind of realise now that you need serious help. had a look through some of my textbooks and i think you may be suffering from quite a pertinent case of narcissism personality disorder. i'm not joking here bro - i know you're hurting and it's tough, but you can hit me up if you want some assistance finding some self-help stuff to tide you through
seriously man, you don't have to keep putting up with it. i feel kind of bad for laughing at you now
let's not continue the conversation in this manner further. people are starting to get hurt now, that much is obvious.
EDIT: by the way, ectomorph does not mean what you think it means. you would be mesomorphs, not ectomorphs if you could continually eat without gaining weight or other negative detriment. stop using wikipedia for your definitions, jeez (source: Sheldon, Varieties of Human Physique)
Oops, didn't know that. Will take note of it. I think I got the definition from some muscle building site when I typed ectomorph in google search. Looks like I better go have a look at the information one more again.Ephemeral wrote:
EDIT: by the way, ectomorph does not mean what you think it means. you would be mesomorphs, not ectomorphs if you could continually eat without gaining weight or other negative detriment. stop using wikipedia for your definitions, jeez (source: Sheldon, Varieties of Human Physique)
LOL are you retarded? You don't even lift. Ectomorph > Mesomorph > EndomorphEphemeral wrote:
i'm actually kind of concerned for you neverdie
i think you may want to visit a therapist. the thread has been all laughs up until a point, but i kind of realise now that you need serious help. had a look through some of my textbooks and i think you may be suffering from quite a pertinent case of narcissism personality disorder. i'm not joking here bro - i know you're hurting and it's tough, but you can hit me up if you want some assistance finding some self-help stuff to tide you through
seriously man, you don't have to keep putting up with it. i feel kind of bad for laughing at you now
let's not continue the conversation in this manner further. people are starting to get hurt now, that much is obvious.
EDIT: by the way, ectomorph does not mean what you think it means. you would be mesomorphs, not ectomorphs if you could continually eat without gaining weight or other negative detriment. stop using wikipedia for your definitions, jeez (source: Sheldon, Varieties of Human Physique)
http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articl ... morph.html
Great, someone that doesn't even lift trying to correct ones that have been doing it for years haha. What'll happen next? It's called confidence bro, narcissism is blowing things out of proportion with no reasonable foundation. I feel bad for you being a virgin nerd that still hasn't gotten some till this day
But yeah, stop posting stupid information, you're making yourself look worse. Try actually doing some research. Any more information from me I'll start charging for. I'm not very patient when it comes to schooling dummies.
Yup, thats where I got the information from too. Ah well, I guess more reading up is in order for me.NeverDie wrote:
http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articl ... morph.html
Trust me, we're right, he's wrong. I doubt everyone I've been working out with at the gym for years are wrong and some nerd over the internet that doesn't even lift will somehow be right.hoihoisoi wrote:
Yup, thats where I got the information from too. Ah well, I guess more reading up is in order for me.NeverDie wrote:
http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articl ... morph.html
i dont know why you keep bottling it up for. people don't judge you as hardly as you think - you dont have to put on a show to impress them. it won't make you feel any better.NeverDie wrote:
LOL are you retarded? You don't even lift. Ectomorph > Mesomorph > EndomorphEphemeral wrote:
i'm actually kind of concerned for you neverdie
i think you may want to visit a therapist. the thread has been all laughs up until a point, but i kind of realise now that you need serious help. had a look through some of my textbooks and i think you may be suffering from quite a pertinent case of narcissism personality disorder. i'm not joking here bro - i know you're hurting and it's tough, but you can hit me up if you want some assistance finding some self-help stuff to tide you through
seriously man, you don't have to keep putting up with it. i feel kind of bad for laughing at you now
let's not continue the conversation in this manner further. people are starting to get hurt now, that much is obvious.
EDIT: by the way, ectomorph does not mean what you think it means. you would be mesomorphs, not ectomorphs if you could continually eat without gaining weight or other negative detriment. stop using wikipedia for your definitions, jeez (source: Sheldon, Varieties of Human Physique)
http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articl ... morph.html
Great, someone that doesn't even lift trying to correct ones that have been doing it for years haha. What'll happen next? It's called confidence bro, narcissism is blowing things out of proportion with no reasonable foundation. I feel bad for you being a virgin nerd that still hasn't gotten some till this day
But yeah, stop posting stupid information, you're making yourself look worse. Try actually doing some research. Any more information from me I'll start charging for. I'm not very patient when it comes to schooling dummies.
also when you say *morph you are referring to sheldon's archetypes and sheldon's archetypes infer ectomorph as someone with <19 BMI and with significantly below average muscle mass. i can throw a list of scholarly sources in your face if you feel the need to disagree.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatotype_and_constitutional_psychology
layman's introduction to the entire thing. mad hypocritical i know, but you'd need access to a university library to see the bulk of said list. trust me on this - ectomorph does not mean what you think it means, and everytime you label yourself as one blindly without even attempting to find out what it actually means from credible sources makes me grade your intelligence progressively lower.
the article you linked isn't entirely wrong, either. that's the funny bit.
by the way, ectomorph does not mean what you think it means. you would be mesomorphs, not ectomorphs if you could continually eat without gaining weight or other negative detriment. stop using wikipedia for your definitions, jeez (source: Sheldon, Varieties of Human Physique)Isn't that technically wrong? I admit I only read a few journal articles just then but your somatotype doesn't really determine if you can continually eat without constraint and not have any negative outcomes but more it determines how much fat you store and how much muscle you can build, among other things.
If anything an ectomorph fits that definition the closest? (the whole eat what you want part)
I started to lose weight when I got a job. Then I had money that I started to spend more on food. Ha.
I'm one for tall guys.
Around my height, so about ~195CM
Also, muscles aren't usually my thing, it's alright when you're toned looking but when they stick out it's far enough for me.
Around my height, so about ~195CM
Also, muscles aren't usually my thing, it's alright when you're toned looking but when they stick out it's far enough for me.
kind of. ectomorphs have tremendous trouble building substantial muscle mass, so if you have no problems acquiring muscle mass then you are a mesomorph through and through. your somatotype doesn't determine a whole lot, actually - like most concepts in psychology it is pretty much a collection of blanket observations. note that Sheldon's initial theory was only tested on a sample size of about 400 people from a university alone, which is not an ideal selection area for people of differing body type.Rantai wrote:
by the way, ectomorph does not mean what you think it means. you would be mesomorphs, not ectomorphs if you could continually eat without gaining weight or other negative detriment. stop using wikipedia for your definitions, jeez (source: Sheldon, Varieties of Human Physique)Isn't that technically wrong? I admit I only read a few journal articles just then but your somatotype doesn't really determine if you can continually eat without constraint and not have any negative outcomes but more it determines how much fat you store and how much muscle you can build, among other things.
If anything an ectomorph fits that definition the closest? (the whole eat what you want part)
Ephemeral wrote:
kind of. ectomorphs have tremendous trouble building substantial muscle mass, so if you have no problems acquiring muscle mass then you are a mesomorph through and through. your somatotype doesn't determine a whole lot, actually - like most concepts in psychology it is pretty much a collection of blanket observations. note that Sheldon's initial theory was only tested on a sample size of about 400 people from a university alone, which is not an ideal selection area for people of differing body type.
I like how you put my picture in a quote but not the one kedi put up. Seems like someone's feeling obvious jealousy and hate towards me. And you're now admitting I'm write after doing more research. How funny is that.
i'm still here if you want to talk about stuff
mental illnesses are hard to deal with, believe me - i know. you sure you don't want to just sit down and get it off your chest?
if not, that's cool. i can understand that too. though you have to understand that i have obligations to keep this forum clean and civil, and your childish prattering has not only fouled up an otherwise interesting thread, but your consistently offensive attitude has also placed you at considerable risk for a pretty long duration forum ban.
i can understand your need to garner attention to a limited extent, but you're either getting help, or getting out.
mental illnesses are hard to deal with, believe me - i know. you sure you don't want to just sit down and get it off your chest?
if not, that's cool. i can understand that too. though you have to understand that i have obligations to keep this forum clean and civil, and your childish prattering has not only fouled up an otherwise interesting thread, but your consistently offensive attitude has also placed you at considerable risk for a pretty long duration forum ban.
i can understand your need to garner attention to a limited extent, but you're either getting help, or getting out.
Eph, just because Neverdie may be acting like a dick in your eyes does not mean he is suffering a mental disorder. I think you have discovered that being a psychology major leads you to diagnosing everyone with something (my brother went through the same phase his first few higher level psychology classes and tried to diagnose me with several different things) but holy crap that was one of the most obnoxious well-meaning series of posts I think I've read in a while.
or it could be an elaborate plot to unhinge him
or i could just be legitimately worried at his irrational behaviour
or i could just not care and simply be in it for the laughs
or it could be all three
that's the mystery - nobody will ever know
or i could just be legitimately worried at his irrational behaviour
or i could just not care and simply be in it for the laughs
or it could be all three
that's the mystery - nobody will ever know
>body type thread
>expect neverdie to be in it
>flame war around neverdie
yep.
>expect neverdie to be in it
>flame war around neverdie
yep.
this is all a bit silly though. i'm not sure why it has gone on as long as it has.
Entertainment.
It also fuels my superiority complex.
It also fuels my superiority complex.
Okay, NeverDie doesn't have a personality or mental disorder.
Self-improvement is a positive trait, laziness is not. Agree?
I just blew up your whole thread. gg
You are now 7 years old again. Who are the most attractive people?
The things that were fun when you're a kid, they're probably still fun. <3
Self-improvement is a positive trait, laziness is not. Agree?
I just blew up your whole thread. gg
You are now 7 years old again. Who are the most attractive people?
The things that were fun when you're a kid, they're probably still fun. <3
I find a slender yet curvy physique is always attractive in women. As far as faces go, curves are nice too. I like anyone with my hair color (brown (and no, that's not me in my avatar)) generally speaking, although any hair color works for me. Don't care about eyes. This is really as specific as I can get, and I'm fairly picky when it comes to a woman's looks.
And yet it's a bit hard to deny that Mr. NeverDie doesn't have an inflated sense of self-importance and an extreme preoccupation with himself.Cuddlebun wrote:
Eph, just because Neverdie may be acting like a dick in your eyes does not mean he is suffering a mental disorder. I think you have discovered that being a psychology major leads you to diagnosing everyone with something (my brother went through the same phase his first few higher level psychology classes and tried to diagnose me with several different things) but holy crap that was one of the most obnoxious well-meaning series of posts I think I've read in a while.
NeverDie wrote:
I like how you put my picture in a quote but not the one kedi put up. Seems like someone's feeling obvious jealousy and hate towards me. And you're now admitting I'm write after doing more research. How funny is that.
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Hmm, Mr NeverDie has a very healthy ego.. however this doesn't give Mr NeverDie the right to look down on others. It would be more useful for everybody if he offered his wisdom in a non hostile manner.Jarby wrote:
And yet it's a bit hard to deny that Mr. NeverDie doesn't have an inflated sense of self-importance and an extreme preoccupation with himself.
As for the ectomorph thing, I think I might actually be one of those. I can eat anything and never put weight on. Don't know if this has anything to do with it but abs in particular seem very difficult for me to obtain.
To keep on topic I'd say that there are several forms of attraction. What we are discussing here is primarily sexual attraction. Again this can be further broken down to upbringing (What we see on TV, media, social groups), smells, body language etc. What they found attractive 40 years ago sure as hell won't be nowadays. There are so many things to account for. We could probably safely say that perfect cell division would be attractive to most people, however the imperfections of life is part of the majesty of creation...or something XD. The world would be hella boring if everyone was beautiful. We want some fat people here and some skinny people there and some buff people over there. Life needs to be spiced up a little. So in the end attraction is basically the same as talking about your tastes in music. Fruitless but amusing nonetheless.
ITT: NeverDie and his unhealthy ego!
Bragging about your "superior genes" is not a sign of a healthy ego; it's a sign of a narcissist. There's a difference between having confidence and making sure everybody knows how superior you are.Soly wrote:
Hmm, Mr NeverDie has a very healthy ego.
Also, between Eph and foulcoon, I'm not sure who made this thread more worth reading. I think I'll go with a tie.
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In my opinion that's actually a healthy thing. The insults are the only let down as I stated.Ekaru wrote:
Bragging about your "superior genes" is not a sign of a healthy ego; it's a sign of a narcissist. There's a difference between having confidence and making sure everybody knows how superior you are.
the mindset of superiority inherently hampers progress and development since if you think you're superior or better than a particular thing, what can possibly drive you to improve yourself further since you're already there?Soly wrote:
In my opinion that's actually a healthy thing. The insults are the only let down as I stated.Ekaru wrote:
Bragging about your "superior genes" is not a sign of a healthy ego; it's a sign of a narcissist. There's a difference between having confidence and making sure everybody knows how superior you are.
You all are complaining about how NeverDie acts so superior and that he knows it. When he rips on you, I find that he's just being honest. Judging from the way he does it here, he would do it in person. I have a group of friends who have always gave each other shit since jr. high. We keep each other in line, we don't bullshit each other. We tell each other our flaws so that we notice them, and then we promptly begin doing something about it or else we get more shit for it. If someone takes it too personally, then well that's their fault, they'll have to either confront their critic or submit to them.
You don't ACTUALLY have to read any of these posts. So you don't ACTUALLY have to get offended by any of them. You all are just overreacting and it looks silly. So go ahead and fix that, be stronger and less whiny. Men don't whine.
Oh, I also notice that a lot of people don't like to be simple. Why do we rely so heavily on silly scientific theories? If you're going to follow any science related to this topic then I highly recommend reading the book "The Moral Animal."
You don't ACTUALLY have to read any of these posts. So you don't ACTUALLY have to get offended by any of them. You all are just overreacting and it looks silly. So go ahead and fix that, be stronger and less whiny. Men don't whine.
Oh, I also notice that a lot of people don't like to be simple. Why do we rely so heavily on silly scientific theories? If you're going to follow any science related to this topic then I highly recommend reading the book "The Moral Animal."
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You are allowed to feel superior in your particular area of expertise. Rather than people getting jealous and bitter about it they should feel happy for said person or rather use said person as a source of inspiration. When it starts getting into the area of criticising others then you can put your foot down. Because as we can see from this thread, this is what happens. Nothing is solved and it just becomes a waste of time, not to mention all the useful information ends up being ignored in favor of child like retaliation.Ephemeral wrote:
the mindset of superiority inherently hampers progress and development since if you think you're superior or better than a particular thing, what can possibly drive you to improve yourself further since you're already there?
I haven't read the past 5 pages of this thread (EDIT: I threw a random post 3 pages ago) (really, no self-respecting person would inject themselves into a shit-flinging contest) but I'd like to point out that claiming your own superiority is an instant tell that you are not superior at all - Knowing precisely where you are on a scale (possible pun? don't know whether we're still discussing weight!) means you've spent too much time looking at it and not enough actually improving.
If you truly are superior as a person, then you should also be superior in matters of discussion as well - as such, you'd be able to make your mindset and opinions very intriguing and alluring to people "below" you, not push them off your self-implied throne, as this discussion seems to be implying.
You're only better than someone if there's someone worse than you.
/me flies off for another 5 pages
If you truly are superior as a person, then you should also be superior in matters of discussion as well - as such, you'd be able to make your mindset and opinions very intriguing and alluring to people "below" you, not push them off your self-implied throne, as this discussion seems to be implying.
You're only better than someone if there's someone worse than you.
/me flies off for another 5 pages
@Shiirn
I read the first post, threw in my reply and returned to find Neverdie telling me I was the one talking out of my ass. Notworthitthread is notworthit.
People who believe they have all the right answers just aren't worth it...
I read the first post, threw in my reply and returned to find Neverdie telling me I was the one talking out of my ass. Notworthitthread is notworthit.
People who believe they have all the right answers just aren't worth it...
If someone tells me they are a better saxophone player than me, why should I care? I don't play the saxophone and have no plans to.
It's the same for me with bodybuilding. I couldn't care less.
Now if that saxophone player tells me I'm not entitled to go on a date with anyone or have any children because I'm not a good saxophone player, they're crazy and I have no reason to respect them.
It's the same for me with bodybuilding. I couldn't care less.
Now if that saxophone player tells me I'm not entitled to go on a date with anyone or have any children because I'm not a good saxophone player, they're crazy and I have no reason to respect them.
I've played the saxophone for 10 years, you don't have a chance mm
i am a saxophone
except i play myself
what now
except i play myself
what now
on the PSP, no lessfoulcoon wrote:
I've played the saxophone for 10 years, you don't have a chance mm
i can play the saxophone with my nose, fuck you all
no I mean real saxophoneawp wrote:
on the PSP, no lessfoulcoon wrote:
I've played the saxophone for 10 years, you don't have a chance mm
but remember when i ported osu! to PSP? good times.
Topic Starter
5/5 thread would make again
I played the saxophone ten years ago. Does that count for anything?foulcoon wrote:
no I mean real saxophone
Wait, maybe it was closer to 12 years ago.