Rin - Mythic set ~ Heart-Stirring Urban Legends

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Halfslashed wrote:

[Easy]
00:59:280 - I'm not really seeing a good reason why you're skipping almost every blue tick, which fails to capture the off-beat nature of this intro. 3/4 gaps at this bpm are equivalent to 3/2 gaps at a normal bpm, and they're introduced early on, after all. I could use some explanation for this, otherwise I would suggest shortening this to a 3/4 slider that starts on 00:59:280.
Not againnnn. I skip the blue ticks in every difficulty, or I map them to slider-ends in insane and another. It would be extremely weird to me to decide to do something else in the Easy. No change.
01:28:950 (4) - 01:43:950 (4) - I recommend changing this to a circle to add a short break for players from the slider only section and add some tension to 01:29:888 (1) -.
Huh. Didn't think tension could exist in easies. Fixed.
02:09:731 (5) - 02:17:231 (5) - Since you're in kiai time and have already introduced 2/3 repeats, I recommend changing this to a circle and starting a 2/3 repeat on 02:10:200 (6) - to represent the kicks better, therefore intensifying the kiai.
Wanted to avoid as many 2/3 rhythms as humanly possible, but I guess they already existed. Did that

[Normal]
Good job. Thanks \o/

[Hard]
01:06:848 (7,8,1) - It'd be nice if you could clarify the spacing more here, since 8,1 is likely to be misread as a 2/3 gap due to the similar spacing. Sticking to distance snap would work alright here, as could a stack.
How can players read a 2/3 gap when they haven't encountered any yet :thinking:
Though yeah, I agree that it might cause reading issues further on. Jump was to indicate the big change that happens here (snapping + bpm change), but you're right in that distance snap works just fine. Fixed

02:20:513 (1,2) - I liked it. Huh, glad you did.

[Insane]
01:13:950 (5,6) - 02:43:950 (5,6) - I recommend ctrl+g on this rhythm to fit the melody and what you did with 01:13:013 (1,2,3,4) - more appropriately. This would actually transition seamlessly into the drums as well.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Fixed.

[Another]
02:46:528 - Since you mapped this at 02:44:653 - for tension purposes, I recommend also placing a circle here stacked with 02:46:606 (1) - since this is the finale.
.. I don't think I ever noticed the sound there; it doesn't seem to be very noticeable. Even with it being there, I do like my current way of doing better. The stack would mean that the end of 02:46:294 (7) - needs to be stacked as well, to keep consistent with previous patterns. This makes the movement on 02:46:606 (1) - rather underwhelming in comparison to what I have now. Changing 02:46:294 (7) - to a circle could fix this, but that also doesn't really fit, as it's inconstent with 02:45:825 (5) - etc. Keeping it like this.

Not much to say here, good work guys.
Thanks for modding!
sdafsf

Halfslashed wrote:

[sdafsf]
01:36:450 (1,2,3,4,1) - Your cursor motions are all kinds of messed up here in terms of the kicks that you usually represent with 01:32:700 (1,2,3) -. I recommend doing some sort of overlap between 01:36:763 (2,3) - to fix this.
i dont actually follow the kicks with the round sliders. the round sliders are maped to that bouncy sound (idk what the in strument is). this is actually one of the few parts where the movement is actually thought through in this map i think the movement wteween 3,4 and 1 fits very nicely
Not much to say here, good work guys. thanks!
Halfslashed
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[General]
soft-sliderslide86 is unused.
01:12:856 (7) - For your hitsounds, I recommend a drum clap here to fit better with hitsounds in prior measures.

[Normal]
01:44:888 (1) - Offscreen on 800x600. You can fix this relatively painlessly by moving 01:43:481 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - to the right.

[sdafsf]
01:44:888 - I think 40% volume would work better with your normal-hitclaps in this section.
01:38:169 (4,1) - 01:38:950 (2,3) - Soft whistles would be nice to make this section feel less empty and highlight the added chimes or whatever here.
02:21:919 (4,5) - Soft whistles on the tail of 4 and 5 would fit what you did with 02:14:575 (1,2) - better.

[mithew]
Currently you don't have any differentiation in your volume settings based on the intensity of the song. 70% volume is inappropriate in most non-kiai sections (you could make a case for the buildup at 02:05:513 - ).
01:07:388 - Conflicting timing settings, turn on kiai for the uninherited point.
01:13:013 - Your finish from C:29 fits much better, and you used it in the outro as well, so i'd recommend it here.
01:38:950 (2) - I don't think the kick here fits, since you're already differentiating this part with the whistles. Try removing them.
01:40:513 (1) - 01:42:388 (1) - 02:10:513 (2) - You normally skip the clap on the slider ends, so I recommend doing that here.
01:43:950 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Could use some whistles here like you did with 01:38:325 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - .
02:01:606 (2) - This clap seems jarring since you normally highlight measure transitions with a kick-kick pattern, so I'd recommend changing this to a kick.
02:02:231 (2,4) - I recommend removing the kick on the head of 2 and adding a clap to both the head of 2 and 4 to better fit what you did at 01:59:888 (1,2) - .
02:09:106 - I recommend adding a kick here for similar reasons to 02:01:606 (2) -.
02:17:700 (1,1) - Unsnapped slider ends, snap them to 02:17:856 - 02:18:169 - respectively.
02:42:856 (2) - Add a kick here for consistency with 01:12:700 (1,2) -.
mithew

Halfslashed wrote:

01:13:013 - Your finish from C:29 fits much better, and you used it in the outro as well, so i'd recommend it here. the note you highlighted was already using the finish from C:29, but its inconsistent with the outro anyways so i fixed that
applied everything else and adjusted the volume accordingly

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sdafsf

Halfslashed wrote:

[sdafsf]
01:44:888 - I think 40% volume would work better with your normal-hitclaps in this section. sure. added some added some more minor variation, but the over volume was lowered
01:38:169 (4,1) - 01:38:950 (2,3) - Soft whistles would be nice to make this section feel less empty and highlight the added chimes or whatever here. wouldnt fit the way i created those hitsounds. but iw as missing a clap here 01:38:794 (1) - . the hitsounds follow specific crum sounds.
02:21:919 (4,5) - Soft whistles on the tail of 4 and 5 would fit what you did with 02:14:575 (1,2) - better. 02:21:919 (4,5) - is already kinda overmapped so i dont think adding those hitsounds would add anything. 02:14:263 (4,1,2) - these are mapped to very special sounds and were actually placed wrongly so i changed that. removed whistle from 1 and added on tail of 4

thanks!
UPDATE
Topic Starter
yaspo

Halfslashed wrote:

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[General]
soft-sliderslide86 is unused.
Is used in Sdafsf's extra by 00:59:280 (3) - 01:01:442 (2) - 01:03:604 (2) - 01:05:406 (4) - 01:06:487 (3) - and corresponding sliders in the outro.
01:12:856 (7) - For your hitsounds, I recommend a drum clap here to fit better with hitsounds in prior measures. Fixed

[Normal]
01:44:888 (1) - Offscreen on 800x600. You can fix this relatively painlessly by moving 01:43:481 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - to the right. Fixed
Updated all
Halfslashed
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Voli
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Halfslashed
There was confusion.

21:08 Voli: lol hi
21:08 Voli: i accidentally popped a set you bub'd but it was a mistake in judgment
21:08 *Voli is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1429975 Rin - Mythic set ~ Heart-Stirring Urban Legends]
21:08 Voli: could you rebubble this (you could just edit your post to reset the thread icon)
21:09 Voli: i thought the timing wasn't consistent across diffs
21:10 Voli: o nvm it reset itself
21:10 Voli: all good
21:12 Halfslashed: oh alright xD
21:12 Voli: :okhand:
21:14 Voli: wait why did u rebub it now
21:14 Voli: LOL
21:14 Halfslashed: wait
21:14 Halfslashed: didn't you just say
21:14 Halfslashed: to rebub?
21:14 Voli: i said o nvm it reset itself
21:14 Halfslashed: man i should read
21:15 Voli: LOL
21:15 Halfslashed: whatever
21:15 Halfslashed: LOL
21:15 Voli: nah
21:15 Voli: it's my bad
21:15 Voli: but you can just
21:15 Voli: edit your last post to not be a bubble
21:15 Voli: LOOOOL
21:15 Halfslashed: isn't that frowned upon?
21:15 Voli: well
21:15 Voli: it doesnt really matter because you already bubbled it
21:15 Voli: so having it twice is kinda unnecessary
21:16 Halfslashed: may as well delete post then i guess?
21:16 Voli: yea
21:16 Voli: sorry for that confusion
21:16 Voli: lol
21:16 Voli: but it's fine now
21:16 Halfslashed: oh lol alright
Voli
^ blame me for the error earlier lol
one thing stood out to me in your difficulty that i wanted to mention though:

Another
  1. 01:59:888 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This segment of the song seems to increase a lot in intensity towards the kiai, but your patterns are really monotonous, holding movement in one place. I also don't really understand why the spacing decreases every pattern while the intensity ramps up so much. It confused me quite a bit while playing D:

    If anything, I'd probably not map these 1/3s here and do something with the piano instead 02:02:231 -


Good luck with this! No kds needed for this tiny post :p
Topic Starter
yaspo

Halfslashed wrote:

There was confusion.
Same

Voli wrote:

Another
  1. 01:59:888 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This segment of the song seems to increase a lot in intensity towards the kiai, but your patterns are really monotonous, holding movement in one place. I also don't really understand why the spacing decreases every pattern while the intensity ramps up so much. It confused me quite a bit while playing D:
    Holding movement in one place happens for a few reasons. Firstly, it's consistent with how I used 2/3 gaps throughout the map, they're always stacked in this manner. Secondly, it forms a nice contrast with the rest of the map. Making it move around too much would make it stand out less, imo, which I'd like to avoid. Instead I went for a select few strong motions. Lastly, most of the intensity ramping up happens here 02:01:763 - 02:03:638 - 02:05:513 - . As you can see, I opted to show the intensity increase through sliders angling and bending upwards more, as well as increasing SV on 02:03:638 (1) - . The spacing thing is very very true though. Fixed it to have gradually increasing spacing between the patterns to keep the pressure up.

    If anything, I'd probably not map these 1/3s here and do something with the piano instead 02:02:231 - I don't believe doing this would fit in the map as it is right now.


Good luck with this! No kds needed for this tiny post :p
Thanks for suggestion!
-Mo-
Well I already looked at this extensively in the past so mostly minor tweaks

General
=== drum-hitfinish, drum-hitfinish3, normal-hitfinish30, and soft-hitfinish31 should be fixed for >5ms hitsound delay.

Easy
- 01:27:075 (2) - Would rotate very slightly so 1-2 visual flow is a bit smoother.
- 01:35:981 (4) - Touches health bar. You can keep these, just warning you in case you think these especially look bad.
- 01:43:950 - Should have a circle here like you did at 01:28:950 (4).
- 01:51:450 (3) - Lowering it slightly would help with visual flow a bit, around (207, 189).
- 01:53:638 (2) - Same, (361, 73).
- 02:15:356 (2,4) - Health bar.
- 02:37:388 (1) - Missing hitsounds.

Normal
- 01:12:700 - Feels like this would be better with the slider covering the purple notes, since this beat is significant enough to be mapped, especially when 01:12:856 is also mapped.
- 02:06:450 (3) - Health bar.
- 02:29:888 (1) - Missing normal-normalhit.

Hard
- 01:21:450 (4) - Health bar.
- 02:33:325 (6) - Blanket thing could be improved.
- 02:36:762 (6) - Shift it a couple of units to the left since the spacing is barely noticably off.
This is a good diff though.

Insane is good.

Another
- 01:59:263 (2,3) - This got boring now :( At the very least I want to see the back and fourth thing come back, it works well for the tension rise.
- 02:06:450 (1,2,3,4) - I'm thinking now whether it's worth it to use a more dynmic looking pattern rather than everything be linear, so it stands out a little more for the louder sounds, and since most other things avoid perfect linear patterns too.
- 02:21:450 (1,2,3,4) - Same kind of thing if you want to apply it here.
- 02:36:919 (1) - Missing finish, or a whistle, or whatever you wanted here.

sdafsf's Extra
- 03:00:426 (4) - This feels like there's a long enough gap between the glock sound thing and the static that 03:00:469 is noticably overmapped. Personal opinion is that it would feel better if you use two different objects to map the two different sounds, even when they seem close to each other.

mithew's Extra
=== 02:50:513 - Red and green lines with different volumes.
- 02:07:075 (1) - The length and the spacing implies that this was going to be some sort of kick slider, but since it's a slowed down 1/2 I ended up getting a 100 in the test play by jumping too early. My suggsetion would either be to place this closer to 02:07:388 (1) or shortening the slider to 02:07:388 (1) would probably work too.
- 02:13:950 (3) - I feel like this is missing an NC.
- 03:00:426 (3) - Similar suggestion to sdasf's. The static seems to begin on the yellow tick 03:00:513 so the reverse isn't actually mapping any of the static.

Pop for unrankable issues. I'll repair it.
Topic Starter
yaspo

-Mo- wrote:

Well I already looked at this extensively in the past so mostly minor tweaks

General
=== drum-hitfinish, drum-hitfinish3, normal-hitfinish30, and soft-hitfinish31 should be fixed for >5ms hitsound delay. Fixed

Easy
Fixed all except for health bar stuff

Normal
- 01:12:700 - Feels like this would be better with the slider covering the purple notes, since this beat is significant enough to be mapped, especially when 01:12:856 is also mapped.
Wanted this rhythm 01:12:856 (4,1) - to be consistent with 01:13:794 (2,3) - without making long chains. I also feel like 01:12:856 - is stronger than 01:12:700 - .
Fixed other stuff

Hard
Fixed except for health bar again
This is a good diff though. Thanks!

Insane is good. \o/

Another
- 01:59:263 (2,3) - This got boring now :( At the very least I want to see the back and fourth thing come back, it works well for the tension rise.
Brought back the back and forth thing.
- 02:06:450 (1,2,3,4) - I'm thinking now whether it's worth it to use a more dynmic looking pattern rather than everything be linear, so it stands out a little more for the louder sounds, and since most other things avoid perfect linear patterns too.
Did a less linear thing
- 02:21:450 (1,2,3,4) - Same kind of thing if you want to apply it here.
Feel like the linear arrange works fine for building down in this case
- 02:36:919 (1) - Missing finish, or a whistle, or whatever you wanted here.
Added hitsounds
Thanks for modding!
mithew

-Mo- wrote:

mithew's Extra
=== 02:50:513 - Red and green lines with different volumes. fixed
- 02:07:075 (1) - The length and the spacing implies that this was going to be some sort of kick slider, but since it's a slowed down 1/2 I ended up getting a 100 in the test play by jumping too early. My suggsetion would either be to place this closer to 02:07:388 (1) or shortening the slider to 02:07:388 (1) would probably work too. shortened it to make it an actual kick slider and changed the sv, should be good now
- 02:13:950 (3) - I feel like this is missing an NC. nc'd
- 03:00:426 (3) - Similar suggestion to sdasf's. The static seems to begin on the yellow tick 03:00:513 so the reverse isn't actually mapping any of the static. i was aware of this but i felt that having the rhythm that you suggested to sdasf would be awkward to play. after testing it a bit though i think its better, so fixed
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sdafsf

-Mo- wrote:

Well I already looked at this extensively in the past so mostly minor tweaks

sdafsf's Extra
- 03:00:426 (4) - This feels like there's a long enough gap between the glock sound thing and the static that 03:00:469 is noticably overmapped. Personal opinion is that it would feel better if you use two different objects to map the two different sounds, even when they seem close to each other.
upon close listening i can agree that it is overmapped but i do not think that the note density you suggested would be appropriate. i think i found a reasonable middle ground

Pop for unrankable issues. I'll repair it.
UPDATE
Halfslashed
Round 2

https://i.imgur.com/YcR4Elh.png

soft-hitfinish31 is a reverse finish, so reported delay is erroneous (checked with others too).
Free Hong Kong
exciting :D

8-)8-)8-)8-)8-)8-)
Nao Tomori
btw editing posts to repair bubbles gets you fucked so dont do it !
-Mo-
My work here is done.
sdafsf
you finally did it. about time :D
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