Niks wrote:

Halo~ M4M request

00:05:818 (5818|1) - 보컬 사운드를 표현하셨는데 롱노트는 솔직히 너무 길게 표현이 된거고 단노트가 적당한듯하네요
해당 부분은 위쪽 파트랑 1/1 , 1/2 롱놋을 반복구조 하는거라 바꾸면 느낌이 애매해서 못바꿀거 같네요.

00:05:641 (5641|2) - 이 노트와 같은라인에 두어 표현하는게 적합해보입니다 (위 파트와 같은 패턴을 피하고싶으셨다하면 패스)
pass

01:05:288 (65288|6,65553|6,65818|6,66082|6,66347|6,66700|0,66965|0,67229|0,67406|0,67582|4,67759|2) -
이부분을 노트화시키는건 플레이성에 문제가 생기지 않을까 싶네요
이원제님이 주셨던 피드백과 겹치는듯 하네요 ㅎㅎ
이 부분은 수정하고 단노트로 바꿨습니다. 이렇게 넣는게 좀 더 깔끔해 보이네요.

01:55:318 (115318|6,115318|0,115406|5,115406|1,115494|2,115494|4,115494|3,115582|0,115582|6,115670|5,115670|1,115759|2,115759|4) -
이 패턴은 노래와 어울린다고 보기 힘드네요 다른패턴으로 바꿔보시는게 어떨까요
해당 패턴을 회오리 느낌으로 바꿨습니다.

01:56:376 -
01:57:082 -
01:57:788 -
01:58:494 -
이런부분들은 왜 비워둔다기보단 채워넣는게 좋아보이네요
채워두니 조금 체력이 더 들긴해도 재밌네요.

02:17:818 (137818|2,137994|6,137994|0,138053|1,138112|2,138170|3,138229|4,138288|5,138347|0,138347|6,138406|1,138465|2,138523|4,138582|5,138641|6) - :thinking: 이건 딱히 아무말 안적어도 아실테고...
짧롱이 약간 거슬리셨나 보네요. 확실히 저도 저 부분은 좀 고민좀 했던거라 롱노트를 아애 포기해버리고 단노트로 갈지 생각했었는데 아에
단노트로 바꿔버렸습니다.

03:01:582 (181582|5) - 보컬에서 미스를 낸건지 뭔진 모르겠는데 일단 사운드와 스냅이랑 일치하진 않네요
아 그러네요 확인 했습니다.

03:02:112 (182112|4) - 보컬이 끝나는 타이밍은 03:02:376 - 여기
same

03:05:112 (185112|5) - 얘는 좀더 길게 해야겠네요
same

03:12:347 - 여기서나오는 입체음향음을 피치맞추듯 라인별로 구분해서 살리는게 어떨까요
1 , 7번으로 바꿔보았습니다.

03:14:112 - 여기서 점점 고조되는 분위기가 살게끔
03:14:112 (194112|6,194288|0) -
03:14:465 (194465|5,194641|1) -
03:14:818 (194818|6,194994|3) -
이 6개의 노트를 3개의 라인으로 나누는게 어떨까요
좌 단놋 우 롱놋으로 바꿔서 손이 치기 편하게 바꿔 보았습니다.

03:25:053 (205053|3,205229|4,205406|5,205582|6) - 어떤 느낌으로 만드시려는지는 알겠지만 표현하고자하는 부분은 고스트노트입니다
고스트라니.. 삭제하겠습니다.

03:31:406 - 플레이어의 가독성을 생각해서 좀더 리딩하기쉽게끔 만들어주시는게 어떨까요?
동일파트 같은 의견입니다
개인적으로 저부분의 느낌을 살리려고 여러가지 패턴을 해보았는데 저런식으로 휘몰아치는 느낌이 가장 리딩이 잘되더군요. 그래서 저
구간은 아마 수정하기에는 힘들거 같습니다.

03:47:641 - 이부분은 제 역량으로 판단하기가 힘드네요 ㅋㅋ..
다른분께 부탁을.. 해보겠습니다.

04:40:406 (280406|4,280406|5) - 는 04:40:229 (280229|6) - 와 같은 라인에 두는게 느낌이 더 사네요
동일파트 같은 의견입니다
네 수정했습니다.

이건 M4M링크입니다 https://osu.ppy.sh/s/320950

Murumoo wrote:

아몰랑 모딩

00:17:465 (17465|1) - 아래 동일패턴과 같이 4번으로 옮기는게 좋을듯 (동일음) 오 이거 못봣었네요 감사합니다

00:25:406 (25406|2,25582|3) - 이거 노트지우고 그냥 기존의 롱놋 끝까지 줄채워주는게 좋지않음? 보컬까지 다살릴필요는 없는듯 그것은
개인 취향인지라 상당히 추가하고 마음에들어서 나중에 문제되면 고치려고 합니다

01:22:670 - 노트 1개 추가해도 괜찮을듯 괜찮은거 같네요 추가할게요
01:24:082 - ^same
01:25:494 - ^same

01:53:994 - 약간 너프긴 한데 차라리 이렇게 두는거 어떰? 아래에서 동일음 3놋쓴거에 차용해서 넣어봄이 부분은 전부터 패턴을 좀 고쳐야겠다 생각했는데 좋은거같네요.
01:58:229 (118229|2) - 보컬롱놋 이 패턴에선 안쓰는게 낫지않음? 맵퍼의 취향일수도 있으니 제안 이 부분은 단놋만 넣으니 치는 재미가
적길래 보컬롱놋을 추가한건지라 조금 그럴거같네요

뒤에껀 나중에 시간날때 더써줌

Niks wrote:

치다보니까 느껴진건데
오프셋 -10정도하는게 좋을듯

Carol wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1252228
이 랭크맵이랑 같은 오디오 파일을 사용하면
오프셋이 3,161이 아닌 3,171이 맞지 않을까 생각되네요

DE-CADE wrote:

Hello, I found some of the unrankable issues that must be addressed out and they are:

Hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:

1. ring.wav
   The selected area what's makes the hitsound have delay
   
   Image

   
2. LR3_ReverseFXG.wav
   This is one of unrankable issues that already addressed in the last qualified map, i am afraid that the unselected area was the noise and it must be cut out otherwise this hitsound file could counted as delay Hitsound
   
   Image

   

Other than that, i think this map can go further for ranked, feel free to update it with the next check.

Good Luck!

DE-CADE wrote:

maybe this would help
here, i edited for you

LR3_ReverseFXG.wav
ring.wav


good luck again

Protastic101 wrote:

sorry for the late mod, but i just have a few minor things


0:25:749 LR4_BassKickReverbXD.wav@65% - tbh, I would have preferred this be moved onto a note like 00:25:749 (25749|5,25749|1) - so it plays when the player hits the note as opposed to giving feedback despite no player input fixed
0:59:631 LR4_BassKickReverbXD.wav@65% - ^ ^

00:34:219 (34219|5) - shouldn't this be a sample imported soft-hitwhistle3 at 30% vol similar to 00:31:396 (31396|4) - ? hmm, ok i change it

00:41:984 (41984|6) - Missing clap? This section has claps on the second beat of every measure except for this one which feels a little inconsistent
ok add clap

01:15:160 (75160|3) - More of a nitpick, but I'd import this at 80% to match the double hitsound volume of stuff like 01:10:925 (70925|2,70925|6) -
[fixed hitsound to 80%]
01:13:749 (73749|4,73749|5) - and so on ^
01:15:866 (75866|0,76219|1) - ^ ^

01:27:866 - For this build up, I'd try to keep the hs volumes consistent, at least with the whistles since the constant wavering between quiet and loud is a bit disturbing. Basically remove the hitsounds on places such as 01:28:043 (88043|4,88396|1,88749|2,89102|1,89455|3,89808|3,90160|2,90513|1,90778|5,90866|1,91043|5,91484|4,91572|1,91749|5,91925|1,92102|5) - . P much just needs to have a bit more volume consistency. fixed
01:50:455 - ^ ^

01:58:572 (118572|1,118572|0,118572|4) - There's one too many finishes here. Remove one for volume consistency ok i check this

02:28:572 (148572|6) - Missing whistle? Actually, for this entire burst, I feel like it's not really consistent with other 1/4 jumps you've done where you used two whistles instead of one, like at 01:51:866 - check
02:35:631 (155631|3) - Similarly, this should be a whistle so there's two whistles on the chord ^
02:35:984 (155984|5,156337|2,156690|0,157043|0,157396|6,157749|4,158102|5) - ^ ^

02:38:455 - I think double hitsounds are fine, but putting four of the same sample onto one chord creates the same problem I mentioned earlier about the oddness of constantly shifting between a quiet and loud sample. fixed

02:51:866 (171866|3,171866|1) - I think this is supposed to be soft sampleset? I don't really see how suddenly changing the sampleset helps here since the music doesn't change drastically or have any added sounds. fixed

02:58:219 - Again, volume consistency like I mentioned previously at 02:28:572 (148572|6) - ok add hit sound

03:02:808 (182808|6) - Seems odd to leave out the soft-hitwhistle3 here when listening to the hitsounds. I'd include it since I can't really tell if there's a different sound or something there to warrant it. ^

03:47:278 (227278|6,227322|5,227366|4,227410|3,227455|0,227499|1,227543|2,227587|3) - I would completely exclude the whistles here since the music has them fade to an almost inaudible volume. Similarly, right before that, I would make the whistles on 03:46:925 fixed(226925|1,226969|2,227013|3,227058|4,227102|5,227146|6,227190|2,227234|1) - a lower volume, such as 20% or so. add

04:00:337 (240337|1) - Just a minor thing, but you could consider adding a soft-hitfinish here that's from the default sampleset to act as a crash
umm..i don't understand

04:22:925 - I'm not sure if this is intentional or not, but it seems like you've flipped the order of the finishes and claps. The transition going into it sounds a bit unnatural since the player's used to hearing clap - finish - clap - finish rather than clap - finish - clap - finish - finish. I think in this case you should put the finishes on the first and third downbeat like 04:22:925 (262925|1,262925|0,263631|1,263631|4) - onto the second and fourth downbeats such as at 04:23:278 (263278|2,263278|1,263984|5,263984|4) - and vice versa for the claps. fixed


Overall really interesting map. I love how much attention you put into making the hitsounds feel like they're part of the song and stand out even in places where the music may not have them. Great creative rhythms!

1. 01:33:513 - 1.5x
2. 01:33:558 - 0.83x
3. 01:33:690 - 1.0x

Protastic101 wrote:

recheck

01:21:866 (81866|1) - needs to be imported at 80% for consistency with the other double hs fixed

01:49:749 (109749|0,109837|1,109925|2) - These should either be removed so there's only one hitclap on each chord, or 01:49:219 ok delete clap sound(109219|4,109308|4,109572|2,109660|2) - imporrted at 80%

01:10:175 - SV wise, this should be 4x to average to 1.0x which is consistent with the overall SV average of the section beforehand. If you don't want such a large value, moving the SV to 01:10:131 - and using 2.4x instead to average might be a little easier. delete SV

01:27:602 - This really isnt that important, but rounding wise, this should be 0.77x ok fixed

01:33:513 - Hm, I think you're trying to do a bump SV here, though it feels a bit unnatural to catch due to the fact that it only has the speed up portion of it and not the slowdown. Might also extend it across the LN, like so:

1. 01:33:513 - 1.5x
2. 01:33:558 - 0.83x
3. 01:33:690 - 1.0x

01:44:808 - 02:41:278 - 02:52:925 - Same as above
that's not too bad but i changed SV like that
01:33:513 - 1.4 01:33:572 - 0.9 01:33:631 - 0.7 01:33:690 - 1.0 / 01:44:808 - = same
02:41:278 - 1.6 02:41:337 - 0.8 02:41:396 - 0.6 02:41:455 - 1.0 / 02:52:925 - = same


01:56:013 - Should be 1.99x to average properly to 1.0x like the rest of the section i changed SV 01:55:749 - 0.75 01:56:013 - 1.75

02:13:043 - This green line doesn't actually do anything so you can remove it. ok

02:16:043 - 02:16:308 - 02:16:572 - 02:16:925 - Should be 1.11x to average, or the 0.89x should become 0.78x i changed SV
02:15:866 - 1.6 02:15:955 - 0.6 02:16:043 - 0.8 02:16:131 - 1.0 and other part is the same 02:16:219 - ~ 02:16:352 - / 02:16:396 - ~ 02:16:660 - / 02:16:749 - ~ 02:17:102 -


3:3:866 LR3_Snare FCSRL.wav@65% - Might be better to move this onto one of the notes at 03:03:866 (183866|4,183866|5,183866|1,183866|2) - for actual player feedback ok i fixed

04:31:396 - Can delete this green line since it doesn't do anything (doesnt change vol or sv) ok

Protastic101 wrote:

01:10:219 - This green line can be deleted now then as it serves no purpose.ok i delete green line

I can rebubble after this =w=)b

Garalulu wrote:

Let me take some issues for this

[Solitude]

1. 00:13:043 - 00:14:455 - This part should be same with 00:07:396 - 00:08:808 - , but you made it just normal structure as 00:15:866 - 00:17:278 - , two type of LNs are placed at each col continually. and you should add one note more at 00:14:278 - as other part did.
   
   00:13:043 - 00:14:45 applied to the part ( 00:07:396 - 00:08:808 )
   
   
2. 00:15:690 - I can't find why it is a void space. 00:07:219 (7219|1) - , 00:10:043 (10043|4) - , 00:12:866 (12866|4) - has each note.
   
   00:15:690 ok i check this sound. added note
   
   
3. 00:17:102 - You used LN at this voice effect like 00:11:455 (11455|3) - , 00:08:631 (8631|2) - , 00:05:808 (5808|1) - , but didn't for this part. If it's not for voice effect, what's it for?
   
   that is my miss. i add LN note
   
   
4. 00:22:749 - Same issue with 00:17:102 -
   
   ^
   
   
5. 01:43:043 (103043|5,103219|5) - If you wanna make this part smoother, avoid the same col. For melody progress, just another pitch, it has no clue to use same col, even the space is enough to rearrange it. col 4 is better.
   
   i changed this same col.
   
   
6. 01:46:043 (106043|4) - Only this part has one note more than others, you should remove it.
   
   ok, i check this.
   
   
7. 01:48:690 - 01:49:043 - Any reason to make the LN at same col? 01:48:690 (108690|6,108866|6) - not same pitch, you didn't make it before, 01:45:866 - 01:46:219 - for example.
   
   ok,i chaned 01:48:690 (108690|6,108690|5) - this col. ->01:48:690 (108690|4,108690|3) -
   
   
8. 01:52:572 - 01:53:278 - It has 1/8 sound. I recommend to use it, just making same with before 1/4 part is not good and looks questionable. You already use 1/8 pattern for this map so this should be same.
   
   yeah, i apply 1/8 snap
   
   
9. 02:19:043 - 02:20:808 - You focused on 1/1 so did triple rather than drum, but 02:23:631 - 02:24:337 - you put triple at drum & vocal part. For consistency and focus, I recommend to change it as them. You should check these part 02:18:690 - 02:35:631 - all.
   
   ok i fixed this part. please check it
   
   
10. 03:00:337 - 03:01:043 - It has 1/8 too.
    
    check
    
    
11. 03:26:455 - 03:37:749 - I have two concern about this part.
    1. Distribution of note amount
    when I saw 03:26:455 - 03:26:984 - first, I think that there is one note for melody and drum, so 03:26:631 (206631|3,206631|1) - is double and 03:26:719 (206719|5,206896|3) - they have one note each. but 03:27:249 (207249|5) - it's not, even though it has melody & drum. it makes that part ambiguous thing,
    just there are some notes on stream. My concern can be looked too strictly, but consistency is really a thing that should be followed tho.
    
    ok, i fixed. please check this
    
    
    2. Questionable LN concept
    03:28:572 - 03:29:278 - and 03:31:396 - 03:32:102 - have same melody progress but different drum structure. However, for pattern concept, I can't find a reasonable difference of both structures, there is a triple 03:31:396 - and 03:31:660 - single only I can find, yeah and difference of LN length that is just placed for noodle hole. Make them same structure or focus on drum also plz, it's for your concept.
    
    ^
    
    
12. 04:31:396 - only 1/8 LN of overall chart, why should it be LN for 1/8 roll chart? I recommend to change the LN length to 1/4 or make 04:31:043 - 04:31:396 - them all rice notes.
    
    i don't want to change that. because i want to express an going up sound

Sexy concept, keep it up!

Garalulu wrote:

irc with voice chat

18:19 Turrim: 안농루루
18:20 Garalulu: hoi
18:22 Garalulu: 00:14:455 (14455|3,14631|3) -
18:22 Garalulu: 00:22:925 (22925|2,23102|1) -
18:23 Garalulu: 00:20:102 (20102|2,20102|0,20278|2) -
18:23 Turrim: 00:05:984 (5984|0,6160|1) -
18:23 Turrim: 00:11:631 (11631|4,11808|2) -
18:24 Garalulu: 01:42:690 (102690|5,103043|5,103219|5) -
18:26 Garalulu: 01:52:572 -
18:26 Garalulu: 01:52:925 -
18:27 Turrim: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10553093
18:28 Turrim: 01:53:058 -
18:28 Turrim: 한칸 아래로 내림
18:28 Garalulu: 01:52:925 (112925|2,113058|2) -
18:29 Turrim: 01:52:925 (112925|2,113058|2) -
18:30 Turrim: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10553106
18:31 Garalulu: 02:19:043 - \
18:32 Garalulu: 02:19:749 -
18:32 Garalulu: 02:19:837 -
18:32 Garalulu: 02:19:572 -
18:33 Turrim: 02:19:749 -
18:33 Turrim: 02:19:837 (139837|1) -
18:33 Garalulu: 02:19:837 - 3 02:19:749 - 2
18:34 Garalulu: 02:20:190 -
18:35 Turrim: 02:23:896 - 02:24:160 - 02:24:249 -
18:36 Turrim: 02:29:455 - 02:26:984 - 02:27:249 - 02:27:778 -
18:37 Garalulu: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10553141
18:40 Garalulu: 02:20:102 -
18:40 Garalulu: 02:20:366 -
18:41 Garalulu: 02:20:631 -
18:41 Turrim: 02:20:190 -
18:43 Garalulu: 02:26:013 (146013|1,146013|0) -
18:43 Garalulu: 02:25:749 -
18:44 Turrim: 02:26:278 -
18:45 Turrim: 02:28:660 - 02:28:749 -
18:45 Garalulu: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10553180
18:47 Garalulu: 03:00:337 -
18:48 Turrim: 03:00:690 -
18:49 Turrim: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10553198
18:50 Turrim: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10553213
18:51 Garalulu: 03:01:043 -
18:55 Garalulu: 03:37:043 - \
18:55 Garalulu: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10553248
18:57 Turrim: 03:29:278 -
19:01 Turrim: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10553296
19:01 Turrim: 03:34:219 -
19:05 Turrim: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10553314
19:09 Turrim: 03:28:572 -
19:09 Turrim: 03:31:396 -
19:09 Turrim: 03:34:219 -
19:15 Turrim: 03:39:866 -
19:15 Turrim: 03:37:043 -
19:18 Garalulu: 03:40:043 (220043|3) -
19:21 Garalulu: ok.
19:21 Turrim: owo)b

OK I'm fine with this 'w'