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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 22 October 2017 at 00:39:27

Artist: P!nk
Title: True Love ft. Lily Allen
Tags: Alecia Beth Moore Pink The Truth About Love Stingy Mkguh Mir
BPM: 96
Filesize: 6015kb
Play Time: 03:45
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy Love (1.27 stars, 167 notes)
  2. Hard Love (3.28 stars, 607 notes)
  3. Mir's True Love (4.39 stars, 782 notes)
  4. Mk's Advanced Love (2.44 stars, 435 notes)
  5. Stingy's Normal Love (1.72 stars, 268 notes)


Download: P!nk - True Love ft. Lily Allen
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Thanks to:

Stingy, MkGuh and Mir for their GDs

UniqueBlock11, paydayzcool, Mir, Pachiru, Lilynn, Time Capsule, CraEZy, ezek, a q p w and plaudible for modding!
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Holy shit Nowa, you finally submitted it :o
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_DT3 wrote:

Holy shit Nowa, you finally submitted it :o
He might pass the BN test since miracles like this are happening. We are living in interesting times
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Hello, from my queue.
general

MkGuh should use Kiai fountains in his difficulty too just for consistency
stingy's normal love

00:42:559 (1) - NC inconsistency, in the previous combos, you let the combo go up to 7 until you NC, but here you NC early. Keep things consistent by removing NC here.
01:12:559 (1,2,3) - Why did you use a new rhythm here when the rhythms that surround it flow the same way in the song? Following a rhythm similar to 01:10:059 (1,2,3) would sound better.
01:37:559 (4) - Perhaps improve this sliderwave.
02:30:059 - There are two timing points on each other.
03:37:559 (1) - This slider is a bit too far off the grid, certain monitors may not be able to display this slider correctly.
mk's advanced love

00:55:059 (1,2,3) - Why not blanket for appeal?
01:55:059 (1,2) - ^
02:47:559 (5) - Add NC here and remove NC on 02:48:497 (1). This allows you to keep the NC rhythm from 02:42:559 (1) and on consistent.
02:57:559 (6) - Add NC here and remove NC on 02:58:497 (1). Also the consistent NC thing.
03:05:059 (1,2) - Blanket for appeal.
03:30:684 (3,4) - Awkward distance snapping here, every note in this combo is spaced 1.1x except for this area which is spaced 1.3x. Keep the distance snapping consistent when it should be.
03:38:809 (5,6) - Two notes on one tick!
true love

This difficulty is full of 1/4 slider combos. Try to add some variety! Playing this rhythm over and over is boring:

With more repeats and circles, you can add variety and make your map more unique:

Plus, adding variety makes your map more fun to play while keeping the rhythm that you think sounds best. Make changes similar to this across your map to produce a more unique map.
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UniqueBlock11 wrote:

Hello, from my queue.
stingy's normal love

00:42:559 (1) - NC inconsistency, in the previous combos, you let the combo go up to 7 until you NC, but here you NC early. Keep things consistent by removing NC here. Thank you!~
01:12:559 (1,2,3) - Why did you use a new rhythm here when the rhythms that surround it flow the same way in the song? Following a rhythm similar to 01:10:059 (1,2,3) would sound better. It fits because of the piano chord on 01:13:497 - ;w;.
01:37:559 (4) - Perhaps improve this sliderwave. I knew it was a bit funny looking but I just changed the slider altogether. Thanks~
02:30:059 - There are two timing points on each other. Good catch. Thanks.
03:37:559 (1) - This slider is a bit too far off the grid, certain monitors may not be able to display this slider correctly.I think it's okay but fixed anyway!
https://pastebin.com/M3yrZQS4
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UniqueBlock11 wrote:

Hello, from my queue.
general

MkGuh should use Kiai fountains in his difficulty too just for consistency
That is up to him afaik
true love

This difficulty is full of 1/4 slider combos. Try to add some variety! Playing this rhythm over and over is boring:

With more repeats and circles, you can add variety and make your map more unique:

Plus, adding variety makes your map more fun to play while keeping the rhythm that you think sounds best. Make changes similar to this across your map to produce a more unique map.


Well that is how the song is so i can't really do anything for this. Variety is important indeed but i don't think it's currently that simplistic and slapping reverses and hitcircles here and there does not most of the time get along with what aspect of the song i want to prioritize. That kind of changes would have to work on case by case analyzing and reasoning since it's way too vague currently. For example this pattern that you are referring 01:41:465 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - follows the vocals exactly the way i want to already
Thanks for the mod
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Hi Nowa~ I'm here to mod!

Easy diff is well done!

Normal
00:12:872 (6,7) - My Main concern here is rhythm. There is a sudden switch to red ticks which I reckon is too irregular, maybe try something like: [img]https://puu.sh/x8K1v/6ee78d4bac.png][/img]
00:22:872 (6,7) - ^
Well done! You did a good job!
Hard
02:48:497 (1,2,3) - Keep your spacing consistent to avoid confusion in players.
02:52:559 (1) - Just saying, starting from this note and onwards is like a portal into 2012 mapping.
True Love
00:11:309 (3,4,5) - Not a fan of this type of rhythm -- it's unreadable :?
00:36:622 (4,5,6) - I can tell these notes have different spacings, please fix this.


Literally, I didn't have much to say because this mapset is really, really well made.
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UniqueBlock11 wrote:

mk's advanced love

00:55:059 (1,2,3) - Why not blanket for appeal? there is no need to put a blanket there
01:55:059 (1,2) - ^ sane
02:47:559 (5) - Add NC here and remove NC on 02:48:497 (1). This allows you to keep the NC rhythm from 02:42:559 (1) and on consistent. I did that so I could make the spacing here 02:49:434 (2,3) with an NC to be better readable
02:57:559 (6) - Add NC here and remove NC on 02:58:497 (1). Also the consistent NC thing. same, actually.
03:05:059 (1,2) - Blanket for appeal. same
03:30:684 (3,4) - Awkward distance snapping here, every note in this combo is spaced 1.1x except for this area which is spaced 1.3x. Keep the distance snapping consistent when it should be. it is the final kiai, i guess some jumps would fit nice
03:38:809 (5,6) - Two notes on one tick! lol fix
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osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 180059
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 215997
DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:True Love ft. Lily Allen
TitleUnicode:True Love ft. Lily Allen
Artist:P!nk
ArtistUnicode:P!nk
Creator:DTM9 Nowa
Version:Mk's Advanced Love
Source:
Tags:The Truth About Love Stingy Mkguh
BeatmapID:1380295
BeatmapSetID:651376

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80,80,212872,2,0,P|32:164|76:236,1,187.000005706787,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,264,213653,1,0,0:0:0:0:
116,264,213809,2,0,P|164:252|212:268,1,93.5000028533936,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
396,264,214434,2,0,P|348:252|300:268,1,93.5000028533936,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,156,215059,5,4,0:0:0:0:
256,88,215372,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,156,215684,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,228,215997,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,156,216309,1,2,0:0:0:0:
108,84,216622,1,0,0:0:0:0:
76,180,216934,2,0,P|64:236|84:284,1,93.5000028533936,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,336,217559,5,2,0:0:0:0:
200,244,217872,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,332,218184,1,8,0:0:0:0:
312,244,218497,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,336,218810,1,2,0:0:0:0:
360,336,218966,1,8,0:0:0:0:
360,336,219122,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,284,219434,2,0,P|460:232|440:184,1,93.5000028533936,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,152,220059,6,0,L|180:168,2,191.250007295609,2|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,264,222403,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,264,222559,6,0,L|288:56,2,191.250007295609,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,96,225372,6,0,P|76:72|180:252,1,510.000019454957,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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Thanks for checking paydayz. Fixed both things!
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fake love
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yes

[Simple Love]
- 00:50:059 (1,2) - I don't know why one hits the red tick and one doesn't but it kinda tilts me lol. You can end 2 on 00:53:497 - and put a circle on 00:54:122 - at least that'd have everything clickable and nothing skipped.
- 01:22:559 (1) - Remove NC, you're doing 2 downbeats right? // 01:35:059 (1) - // 02:42:872 (1) - similar case this can be removed since 02:42:872 (1,2) - is just one combo lol

[Stingy's Normal Love]
- 00:12:559 (5) - Considering the density you mapped this in and the bpm of the track NCing every downbeat seems reasonable.
- 00:40:997 (3,4) - Ctrl+G this to get vocals/bassline a sliderhead (which feels better than letting 00:41:622 - on a sliderend.
- 01:32:559 (4,6) - :/

[Mk's Advanced Love]
- 00:14:747 (6,1) - I think this needs spacing emphasis like 00:12:559 (1) -
- 01:16:934 (5,1) - This DS looks messed up x.x
- 02:48:497 (1,2,3) - Same but you can nudge it a bit to get rid of the overlap.

[True Love]
I guess just "Hard" soon

- 00:51:934 (4) - WHY NO MAP BASS WITH REVERSE SLIDER!!!

yeah this is fine too lol

im gonna make a gd for this one secerino
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Thanks mir for the gd and the mod. Some of my shit broke down so expect the update in couple days

ezek wrote:

fake love
Send fake love
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paydayzcool wrote:

Hi Nowa~ I'm here to mod!

Easy diff is well done!

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00:12:872 (6,7) - My Main concern here is rhythm. There is a sudden switch to red ticks which I reckon is too irregular, maybe try something like: [img]https://puu.sh/x8K1v/6ee78d4bac.png][/img] While I would usually agree to this, the offbeats play fine and since this is a Normal difficulty, it is meant to introduce some more interesting patterns. Thanks for your concern!
00:22:872 (6,7) - ^
Well done! You did a good job! ahh ;w; thanks a lot


Literally, I didn't have much to say because this mapset is really, really well made.

Mir wrote:

yes

[Stingy's Normal Love]
- 00:12:559 (5) - Considering the density you mapped this in and the bpm of the track NCing every downbeat seems reasonable. Alrighty.
- 00:40:997 (3,4) - Ctrl+G this to get vocals/bassline a sliderhead (which feels better than letting 00:41:622 - on a sliderend. :thinking: But what about the spacing? lol no just kidding I got you and I agree
- 01:32:559 (4,6) - :/ o shit my b fixed

im gonna make a gd for this one secerino
https://pastebin.com/PbAtNkTR
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Mir wrote:

yes

[Simple Love]
- 00:50:059 (1,2) - I don't know why one hits the red tick and one doesn't but it kinda tilts me lol. You can end 2 on 00:53:497 - and put a circle on 00:54:122 - at least that'd have everything clickable and nothing skipped. Yeah that sounds better
- 01:22:559 (1) - Remove NC, you're doing 2 downbeats right? // 01:35:059 (1) - // 02:42:872 (1) - similar case this can be removed since 02:42:872 (1,2) - is just one combo lol o fuk i didn't change the NCs there, thank

[True Love]
I guess just "Hard" soon IT'S GONNA BE HARD LOVE NOT JUST HARD :<

- 00:51:934 (4) - WHY NO MAP BASS WITH REVERSE SLIDER!!! I want the vocal to be clickable so yeah...

yeah this is fine too lol

im gonna make a gd for this one secerino
Thanks for modding and for the gd, once again
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[Easy]
* From here: 00:30:372 (1) - I think that's weird to not having whistle on the slider end of the reverse like those one: 00:39:122 (4) - (it's not the only one, but I'm just quoting this one so you can see what I mean). Since you're using a repetitive pattern or hitsounds in the begining, like having a whistle on the each beats of the reverse, or only at the begining and the end, idk, up to you, but I find this really weird.
* 00:34:122 (4,4) - Also, those two sliders aren't consistant in hitsounds, is there a reason for this?
* 01:10:059 (1,2,3) - I feel like the angle here is pretty weird, I don't think it plays well, why not placing it like this: https://puu.sh/xjt9A/9d2473bd3d.png ?
* 02:36:934 (3) - Maybe try to make this slider a bit higher on the grid (keep the DS on) to make the angle of this part: 02:35:059 (1,2,3) - less sharp ?
* 02:40:059 (1,2,1) - Those objects I listed here are covering the same kind of rhythm. But, in this one 02:40:059 (1,2) - you mapped this beat: 02:40:059 (1) - but here: 02:45:059 - you don't. I don't think that the beat you mapped with a circle is very important, cause this beat sounds less important than the slider that is following it. So I think deleting this note 02:40:059 (1) - or adding a note here 02:45:059 - would make more sense.
* 03:44:122 (3) - Look like the end of this slider is not ending well, it sounds a bit off, maybe there is a need of an uninherited point?

[Normal]
* 00:17:247 - Making a small blank here is pretty weird in my opinion. It would be better if you map it, or, if you use some small blank like you did here, before in the intro. I think that using a blank here: 00:19:747 - would make more sense to keep it, cause it would add a small rest for the player, and also, it would kinda reset the combo.
* 00:27:247 - Same here.
* 00:13:497 (7) - Here you mapped the long note with a long slider, but here: 00:20:997 (2,3) - you mapped it differently, without taking attention about this long note, but here 00:23:497 (7) - you did it well. So try to make this long note mapped like other to respect consistance.
* 01:02:559 (1,2) - I think that the flow here can really be improved, because having something like this change from what we see previously, cause previously in the map, you use pleasent flows, and there, you use something quite "sharp".
* 01:34:747 - You're missing an important beat here.
* 03:26:309 (4,1) - That would look nicer if you're making them with the same shape (except if you have a reason for letting them like this with two different shapes.

[Mir's]
* Overall I have nothing to say about rhythm use/flow/etc... cause it's pretty clean, but I have something that "quite" bothered me while playing, it's the difference of density in some parts. The intro is harder than some intense part that should be harder imo. (I hope you got me in what I'm saying :?)
For instance, this part: 00:10:059 - is harder than the kiai. I mean it's more dense in the intro than the kiai. But if it's your way to represent the song, then I respect it.

Good luck~
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SUPER informal mod





[MK's Advanced Love] I notice that in this difficulty that there are a lot of inconsistencies in spacing, rhythm, and a lot of counter-intuitive flow. But I also respect the fact that you're using a dated style and all

01:02:559 (1,2) - Distance between sliders is 1.35x ... 03:02:559 (1,2) - distance between sliders is 1.79x, these are pretty much the exact same sound and are pretty much the same intensity relative to the rest of the song. I believe this is a repeated issue.

03:23:184 - There is a pretty sharp drum hit here that I think should be represented by more than just a slider tick. (Probably a clickable object)

03:05:997 (2,3,4) - With 03:05:997 (2) - you kind of imply a sort of rotation, however you ignore this with 03:06:934 (3,4) - (Preference)

03:07:559 (1) - This sound would be better represented with a 1/2 repeat slider -> with a hit-circle on 03:08:497 -

03:09:122 (5) - also implying a sort of curvature with this object that is ignored by 03:10:059 (1) - (Preference)

02:20:059 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - rhythmically inconsistent with representation depicted at 03:20:059 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -



I totally respect that your mapping style doesn't necessarily conform to the modern standard.









[Stingy's Normal Love]

01:16:309 (3) - Fk u
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Pachiru wrote:

[Easy]
* From here: 00:30:372 (1) - I think that's weird to not having whistle on the slider end of the reverse like those one: 00:39:122 (4) - (it's not the only one, but I'm just quoting this one so you can see what I mean). Since you're using a repetitive pattern or hitsounds in the begining, like having a whistle on the each beats of the reverse, or only at the begining and the end, idk, up to you, but I find this really weird. The hitsound copier probably just fucked up, sorted out that stuff
* 00:34:122 (4,4) - Also, those two sliders aren't consistant in hitsounds, is there a reason for this? ^
* 01:10:059 (1,2,3) - I feel like the angle here is pretty weird, I don't think it plays well, why not placing it like this: https://puu.sh/xjt9A/9d2473bd3d.png ? Uhh that would give pretty much similar angle to what it is now considering 1|2 transition, if that even is the problem? I will consider this for now since i don't think the pattern has any problems nor would that suggestion improve the pattern any way
* 02:36:934 (3) - Maybe try to make this slider a bit higher on the grid (keep the DS on) to make the angle of this part: 02:35:059 (1,2,3) - less sharp ? It's a triangle pattern?
* 02:40:059 (1,2,1) - Those objects I listed here are covering the same kind of rhythm. But, in this one 02:40:059 (1,2) - you mapped this beat: 02:40:059 (1) - but here: 02:45:059 - you don't. I don't think that the beat you mapped with a circle is very important, cause this beat sounds less important than the slider that is following it. So I think deleting this note 02:40:059 (1) - or adding a note here 02:45:059 - would make more sense. Removed the hitcircle
* 03:44:122 (3) - Look like the end of this slider is not ending well, it sounds a bit off, maybe there is a need of an uninherited point? Uhh not sure what you mean by that. Those two piano sounds are kinda awkward since they go to 1/8 so i simplified that for the easy which is a better choice than fucking with the BSD

Good luck~
Thanks for the mods pachi and lilynn!
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Pachiru wrote:

[Normal]
* 00:17:247 - Making a small blank here is pretty weird in my opinion. It would be better if you map it, or, if you use some small blank like you did here, before in the intro. I think that using a blank here: 00:19:747 - would make more sense to keep it, cause it would add a small rest for the player, and also, it would kinda reset the combo.
* 00:27:247 - Same here. no because it helps accent the high-pitched synth
* 00:13:497 (7) - Here you mapped the long note with a long slider, but here: 00:20:997 (2,3) - you mapped it differently, without taking attention about this long note, but here 00:23:497 (7) - you did it well. So try to make this long note mapped like other to respect consistance. if you notice... the rhythm is copy/pasted...
* 01:02:559 (1,2) - I think that the flow here can really be improved, because having something like this change from what we see previously, cause previously in the map, you use pleasent flows, and there, you use something quite "sharp". to me, anything that doesn't flow from one note to the next is "uncomfortable". this particular set of notes is just another one of those things I consider uncomfortable just like every other map I map. tl;dr it's my style because there's nothing I can do
* 01:34:747 - You're missing an important beat here. I know I was but I guess I'll change it anyway
* 03:26:309 (4,1) - That would look nicer if you're making them with the same shape (except if you have a reason for letting them like this with two different shapes. ok

Good luck~
https://pastebin.com/Mqj7NgVi
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Not a fans of chocolate, I'm on diet lol

why i must mod bns diff?
00:11:934 (4) - its pretty clear of stack choise but, if it me i want to just make a similat movement to 00:11:622 (3) - where its stacked. I mean its intro tho, calm intro just fit to calm song isnt it?
00:14:122 - my cusor move naturally on this pattern instead https://gyazo.com/da4be17714385202f236536154728558 (or i just suks)
00:27:559 (1,2,3) - instead of zigzag why not just continue circularing? ye with sharp angle lol https://gyazo.com/af934a69f8ab036120eaa1f4fb19de21
00:33:966 (2) - i cant see this, at least at (5) head please, simmilar suggestion for this 00:46:466 (2) - it make the diff more jumpy tho and so, i mean the hs a bit supporting to do so
00:54:278 (2) - hello x364 y144, why holding?
01:02:091 (3,4,5) - why not just triangle?
01:04:278 (2) - x68 y296, ye i love triangle
01:09:278 (4,5) - ctrl+g, i expect the jump 01:09:200 - instead, if you do so the transtition to (1) will slightly softer through
01:17:091 (5) - maybe stack with (2) instead?
01:46:466 (2,3) - bothing necessarily holded under slider tail, ctrl+g
01:55:528 (3,4) - gap = ds? rip ctrl+g
02:08:809 (2) - if you repetateing (4,5) and (6,7) why not here as well? where just stack this to (7) head
02:14:278 (2) - stacked at (3) instead? the vocal deserve movement
02:18:653 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ↓ ↑ ← → ← →, yea thats how i mod. you understand tho
02:31:622 (2) - maybe try some diffrent pattern for variant. chage the direction into the curve and place (3) on (1) head
02:36:622 (2,3) - one by one change the direction, yup just to make circular section on bridge of the song
02:49:903 (7) - on slider head? you used most repetating pattern right where meant to mirroring (4,5)
02:54:122 (2) - (4) tail stack, just for a bit more movement
03:09:434 (9) - *cough* x264 y252, ye mirroring (6,8) *cough*
03:14:278 (2,3) - same as earlier, that nazi ctrl+g remember? lol
03:15:684 (3,4) - please dont hold vibrate vocal, its pain. (3) to (1) tail and blanket (2,4)
03:37:091 - switch (9,10) then (9,8). it also polish the jump to (1)

no kds until mir said I deserve one
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l8 mod

generl

-add "Pink" in the tags, cuz when you search up "P!nk" the search box automattically changes it to "Pnk" cuz it doesnt allow certain characters in the thingy

simpel

- get rid of the second red line, otherwise it would be unrankable

00:37:872 (3,4) - blanket?

03:30:059 (1) - I understand that the head of this slider makes a triangle with 03:28:809 (3,4) - but i think it would be better if it was put at x:437 y:224 so that way the slider shape is symmetrical

stingy

gud

mk

tick rate 2?

00:22:247 (5,1) - im not really sure if this is a rule, i think its's more or less a social construct, but everyone tells me that advanced diffs should still be distanced snapped, fix with all other ones, i do see it repeats a few times around the map

01:24:747 (6,2) - stack better?

haddr

gud

mir

gud, very fun!!

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wow this is a really good mapset, best of luck in ranks!!
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