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Minori Chihara - Aitakatta Sora [OsuMania]

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Raveille
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, 28 March 2018 at 11:26:39 AM

Artist: Minori Chihara
Title: Aitakatta Sora
Source: 劇場版 境界の彼方 -I'LL BE HERE- 未来篇
Tags: beyond the boundary gekijouban kyoukai no kanata movie sky i wanted to meet mirai kuriyama akihito kanbara kyoto dudehacker
BPM: 160
Filesize: 22234kb
Play Time: 05:15
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hopes and Wishes - 4Key (3.61 stars, 2814 notes)
Download: Minori Chihara - Aitakatta Sora
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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To all affected by the Kyoto Animation Fire on the 18th July 2019, your hard work will forever be cherished and this song will stay by me close to my heart for life.

#RANKBEAUTIFULMAPS

Also please update the map before 23/3/2018 due to artist name change!





Snuggling up close to the scenery I'd always been waiting for,
affection wells up within me...
Then, within that scenery I'd been waiting for,
was a sky in which I saw affirming futures, telling me I'm not alone.
Thank you for listening to my story!




Massive thanks to dudehacker for helping with the keysounds again!


Link to download dudehacker's piano difficulty file!


Link to download Aras' 6K difficulty file (it's a .osu so drag it into the folder once downloaded!)





The People That Helped With The Patternings
XeoStyle
eyes
riunosk
Parachor
Virtue-
Murumoo
RedBall
Abraxos
Tofu1222
Asherz007 (boople+hearto+rehearto+ununhearto+rereboople)
Litharrale (unboople)
AncuL
Rivals_7 (boople)
Protastic101 (unhearto)
Maxus (reboople+rerehearto)
Fycho (metadata checko)
Feerum

The People That Wanted To Shoot Stars
Aras
dkingo
RedBall
Zylin
Litharrale
Aras
Cab I Gd 6K ? :d
Topic Starter
Raveille

Aras25 wrote:

Cab I Gd 6K ? :d
sure, but I am not too sure who are good 6K modders ;w;
XeoStyle
Hello it's Zeoooooo
M4M !

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| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | (4K)

Nozozomonumunumo
First of all I feel like the early intro is really empty, you should probably put some notes on the vocal or the piano.
00:43:105 - Why is this section only triplet when the beat is on every 1/2 ? It makes a really bad empathy of this part and overall it's really boring to play. You should probably remap the part using LN for the voice and adding normal notes for the instruments ?
(01:07:105 - Now this is really good, I want more unique part like this one !)
01:24:920 (84920|3) - remove a note, no more snare here, it's a tom.
02:27:542 (147542|3) - move to 3 (turning into bad modder elp)
02:44:605 - to 02:47:605 - : you should use mini LN for the guitar sounds, should make a really nice empathy.
02:53:230 - add a note on 2 for the tom sound.
03:55:105 LMFAO WTF IS THIS ALL OF A SUDDEN, it's super hard compared to the rest of the chart and it's probably not even rankable.
04:46:667 (286667|1,286855|1,287042|1,287230|1,287417|1,287605|1) - anchor is eeeeeeeh.
note missing at 04:58:726 -
05:06:513 (306513|3,306513|0) - you should probably put more notes here.
you missed a lot of notes at 05:07:548 (307548|1,307784|2) - , listen at 25%

My tought on this...
I really feel like this chart is 50% done, the chorus/powerful parts are really good but the rest is meeeeh. I understand you want to focus your chart on the piano, but it ended up bein really empty in a lot of parts. Basically every parts that is a little bit slower only have the piano and a few drums beats, you should really use more the vocals. Not only it gonna empathise the song really much more, but it should not feel as empty as it is rn.
You also missed some piano snap at the end as I noticed.

Gl for rank !
Topic Starter
Raveille
all accepted except the ending where I adjusted things. some notes arent part of the song but part of the storyboard.
eyes
General
Fix AiMod issues.

|1-4|
[Nozomu]
00:00:960 - 00:01:022 - missed sounds. I'd think that you missed them intentionally, but here is the same moment 00:14:472 - and you didn't miss

01:06:073 (66073|0,66073|3) - I think it's wrong snap, actually it's on 01:06:026 - and it's more like single note than double.

01:06:261 (66261|2) - it's on 01:06:292 - and should be a double

01:21:730 (81730|1,81917|1,82090|1,82277|1,82465|1) - unbalance, maybe shift this 01:22:277 (82277|1,82465|1) - to 1st column

01:57:917 (117917|0,118011|3) - delete it maybe (?). Sounds aren't that strong for doubles. If you accept it, then make it 01:58:105 - a triple for cymbal.

02:01:105 - triple
02:34:105 - triple
02:44:605 - triple
02:52:292 - note

03:03:542 (183542|3) - replace to 03:03:511

03:04:058 - I guess you can place a note here

03:34:198 - 03:34:386 - 03:34:573 - singles

03:41:417 (221417|2) - replace to 03:41:448

03:41:573 - note

03:53:605 (233605|3,233605|0,234355|0,234355|3) - change the columns, because pitch is different

03:56:605 - triple

05:09:902 (309902|1,309902|3) - make it [14] for pitch relevancy
Aras
rip, wont do then, afraid that you can't find 6k mod, and it will hold your progress
Topic Starter
Raveille

Aras25 wrote:

rip, wont do then, afraid that you can't find 6k mod, and it will hold your progress
If Nozomu gets finished quickly, I can consider GDs.

eyes mod all applied.
riunosk
such procrastination less kds
09:50 riunosk: o boi
09:50 riunosk: the file size is FAT
09:50 *Raveille is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1356030 Chihara Minori - Aitakatta Sora [Nozomu]]
09:50 Raveille: huh'
09:50 Raveille: i removed the 9K diff alr
09:51 riunosk: weird
09:51 riunosk: i still got it
09:51 Raveille: ._ .
09:51 Raveille: delete it and dl it again
09:51 riunosk: she's gone !
09:51 Raveille: !
09:51 riunosk: ok leggo
09:51 *riunosk is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1356030 Chihara Minori - Aitakatta Sora [Nozomu]]
09:52 Raveille: kie
09:52 riunosk: 00:00:960 (960|1,1022|2) -
09:52 riunosk: wat
09:52 Raveille: guitar?
09:52 Raveille: eyes suggested t his
09:52 riunosk: o
09:52 riunosk: you should credit him in the desc then
09:52 riunosk: for pattern suggestions
09:52 Raveille: i did
09:52 Raveille: o_ o
09:52 riunosk: o
09:53 riunosk: for some reason
09:53 riunosk: it only showed xexstyle
09:53 Raveille: xex
09:53 riunosk: all dem veins though
09:54 riunosk: (unrelated) 00:43:093 -
09:54 riunosk: i just hate it when songs do this
09:54 riunosk: also snapping error
09:54 Raveille: phuck
09:55 riunosk: xd
09:55 Raveille: fuked up there lol
09:55 Raveille: kay fixed
09:55 riunosk: 00:59:605 (59605|0) - can probably move to 2 to reduce focus on
09:55 riunosk: 1
09:55 Raveille: ok
09:56 riunosk: 01:39:355 (99355|1,99542|1,99730|1) - unnecessary stack
09:56 riunosk: 01:46:855 (106855|0,107042|0,107230|0) - ^
09:57 riunosk: donez?
09:57 Raveille: ya
09:57 riunosk: o
09:57 riunosk: mus tell me xd
09:58 Raveille: o
09:58 Raveille: :x
09:58 riunosk: 01:47:980 (107980|2,108167|2,108167|3,108355|2,108355|3,108542|3) - stack couple
09:58 Raveille: how to prevent ._.
09:58 riunosk: hm
09:58 riunosk: fuc
09:59 riunosk: no way
09:59 riunosk: then ignore that one then
09:59 Raveille: LOL
09:59 riunosk: 01:58:105 (118105|3,118292|3,118480|3) - any reason for this?
09:59 Raveille: wait
09:59 Raveille: kay fine moved red line to 1
10:00 riunosk: ww
10:02 riunosk: 02:16:761 (136761|3) - whats this for
10:02 Raveille: drum
10:02 Raveille: listen at 25%
10:02 riunosk: o
10:02 riunosk: gotem
10:02 Raveille: nuts
10:02 riunosk: 02:18:542 (138542|2,138730|2,138917|2,139105|2) - anchor nation
10:03 Raveille: macadeemia
10:03 riunosk: wat
10:03 Raveille: ok fix
10:03 riunosk: 02:27:542 (147542|0,147730|0,147917|0,148105|0,148292|0) - ^
10:03 riunosk: 02:37:011 - you can probably add extended LN for the EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
10:04 Raveille: done but there will alwys be one column with a 4 note anchor
10:04 riunosk: goddamit
10:04 Raveille: its too long
10:04 Raveille: the eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee goes too long
10:04 riunosk: fuk
10:04 riunosk: 02:46:480 -
10:04 riunosk: col 1 seems to have a note every 1/1
10:04 Raveille: the LN ends like 02:40:105 - btw if we do it
10:04 riunosk: which is more than other cols
10:04 riunosk: on average
10:05 Raveille: the guitar tho qwq
10:05 riunosk: rip extended ln
10:05 riunosk: rawr
10:05 Raveille: rawr
10:05 riunosk: fair nuff
10:05 riunosk: talking to 5 ppl at once while irc modding
10:05 Raveille: 02:47:605 - here onwards I can try to fix the 1/1
10:05 riunosk: smh
10:05 riunosk: yea that would be good
10:05 Raveille: ok
10:05 riunosk: balance it like a jumpstream
10:05 Raveille: mhm
10:06 riunosk: 03:27:167 (207167|0,207355|0,207542|0,207730|0) - not consistent with your piano patterning
10:07 Raveille: ok
10:07 Raveille: fix
10:07 riunosk: 03:38:042 (218042|3) - wud happened to the after-snare stack
10:07 Raveille: huh?
10:07 Raveille: o
10:07 Raveille: ok fix
10:08 riunosk: 03:40:011 (220011|1,220105|2) - probably better if you flipped this
10:08 Raveille: mhm
10:09 riunosk: wao
10:09 riunosk: after looking at ur time line
10:09 riunosk: start of the track
10:09 riunosk: blood veins everywhere
10:09 riunosk: end of the track
10:09 riunosk: sewing strings everywhere
10:09 Raveille: lol
10:09 riunosk: :thinking:
10:09 riunosk: unique map 101
10:09 Raveille: the ending timing is dank
10:10 riunosk: donk
10:10 riunosk: 04:23:792 (263792|0) - stack errrrrorr
10:10 riunosk: 04:24:542 (264542|2) - ^
10:10 riunosk: 04:22:292 (262292|3) - missed this one
10:10 Raveille: mhm
10:10 riunosk: same for the rest of the section
10:10 Raveille: yea
10:10 riunosk: 04:32:042 (272042|0,272230|0,272417|0) - any reason for this?
10:10 Raveille: hold on
10:11 riunosk: okei
10:12 Raveille: fixed that
10:12 riunosk: onward steed !
10:12 riunosk: 04:35:230 (275230|1,275417|1,275605|1,275792|1) - anchor nation strikes once again !
10:12 riunosk: last note can probably move elsewhere
10:13 Raveille: ok
10:13 riunosk: 04:47:230 (287230|0,287417|0,287605|0,287792|0) - ^
10:13 Raveille: mhm
10:13 riunosk: omaigod
10:13 riunosk: the bpm changerin
10:13 Raveille: 04:49:761 - missed a drum here myself
10:13 riunosk: o
10:14 riunosk: 04:56:606 (296606|2) - sounds like it should have more than 1
10:14 Raveille: 04:56:241 - forgot a piano note here hold on
10:14 riunosk: i like the ending piano a lot :d
10:14 riunosk: its like a beautiful ending to a piano piece
10:15 Raveille: :P
10:15 riunosk: that concludes my mod den
10:15 riunosk: hp can probably raise a little
10:15 riunosk: maybe 0.3
10:16 Raveille: o
10:16 Raveille: okie
10:16 Raveille: gonna update nao owo
10:16 riunosk: time for kds
Aras
Parachor
I like modding marathons.

[4k Nozomu]
🙟▼🙝
- She says "na" here 00:15:269 - instead of where you snapped it.
- 00:17:513 - vocal is snapped here
- 00:33:905 - I think either turn that single note into a short LN, or just add a short LN somewhere here, for the vocal.
- I think it would work better if you put this 00:37:093 (37093|1) - on the same column as 00:36:718 (36718|3) - , but start the LN at 00:37:186 -, just because it's the same pitch. You'll need to reshuffle some notes to fit.
- 00:38:405 (38405|0) - this starts at 00:38:499 (38499|1) -
- 00:43:667 (43667|2,43855|1) - and 00:44:417 (44417|0,44605|2) - and 00:45:167 (45167|1,45355|0) - and etc etc. I wish these would be on the same column. You have so much room to work with pitch relevancy but you don't really seem to utilise it, so at the moment it's kinda just randomly mapped LN with a single note every beat. I feel like you could make this whole area a lot more interesting if you paid more attention to pitch. (Especially given that there's keysounds to work with too). I love the areas where you've clearly used pitch for your LN, and I think that plays really nicely. It's just the areas where it kinda falls apart.
- 01:06:261 (66261|2,66823|1) - These two need to be doubles, given that you're mapping the snare to doubles here.
- 01:05:886 (65886|0,66026|1,66167|0) - Not sure what you're mapping here. It doesn't feel right to play this whole pattern with these notes, because the player is focusing on only the drums and vocals (as that's almost all that's been mapped so far), but then suddenly there's this emphasis on these other things? Idk, I'd take a look at this part a bit more to make you're you really know what you want to emphasize for this buildup.
- 01:14:605 (74605|2) - hi hat here
- 01:16:292 (76292|1) - and here
- 01:17:605 (77605|1) - and here and etc in this section. I see you might be leaving these blank on purpose for some variation, but just remember to be consistent with whether you're mapping it, or whether you aren't.
- 01:24:263 (84263|2) - double
- 01:24:545 (84545|3,84545|2) - could get away with this being a single
- 02:04:011 (124011|0,124105|0) - This is abused a lot in maps like these where it really doesn't need to be. You can easily make this 02:04:105 (124105|2,124105|0,124105|3) - a double, or 02:04:011 (124011|1,124011|0) - a single (I like this option better as the drumroll kinda fades a bit anyway).
- 02:36:917 (156917|0) - PERFECT opportunity for a long note here for the vocal. At the moment it's just a weird gap.
- 02:44:980 (164980|2,165542|2,166105|2,166667|2) - I'd make these short LN's
- 02:47:605 - Did we just give up mapping the guitar here? It's a good opportunity to give this part some life, because it makes this section unique from the others. I highly recommend continuing the guitar from here.
- From 02:53:605 - to 03:02:230 - I'm not a fan of the fact that a lot of things are ignored in this area. There's some nice piano chords that could be turned into doubles, or even a bit of vocal mapping. Just something to break up the fact that it's a random 1/2 stream that doesn't really feel like it's connected to the song. Consider revising this section.
- 03:06:730 (186730|2) - Hi hat
- 03:08:230 (188230|2) - Hi hat
- 03:12:355 (192355|2) - Here too
- 03:13:855 (193855|1) - And here
- 03:49:667 (229667|1) - Double
- 03:56:511 (236511|0,236605|1) - Consider swapping these two columns.
- 03:58:292 (238292|2) - Make this into a double. It's that whole double hit thing that you mapped elsewhere. Idk how to explain this lmao.
- 04:29:511 (269511|0,269605|0) - Again, this feels out of place in a map with no minijacks anywhere else.
- 04:34:105 (274105|3,274105|2,274292|2,274480|1,274480|3,274480|0,274667|1,274855|3,274855|0,275042|2,275042|0,275230|2,275230|1,275230|3,275417|0) - You could put more emphasis on these repeated piano chords. Maybe having each pair share two columns of notes or something.
- 04:36:167 (276167|3) - Big piano chord hit! Map this! Triple please! Or at least a double!
- 04:37:105 (277105|3,277105|1,277667|2) - Same here ^
- 04:40:480 (280480|2,280480|1,280667|3,280667|0,280667|1,280855|2,280855|3,281042|1,281042|2,281230|0,281230|1,281417|2,281417|3) - The double chord thing here too. you know what I mean.
- 05:07:148 (307148|2) - Piano around here.
- 05:07:642 (307642|2) - What is this mapped to.
- 05:08:772 (308772|1,308772|3,309267|2,309267|0,309902|0,309902|3) - I know you're just putting emphasis on this, but it feels really weird to play two notes in place of a single piano note. You could probably just make these singles and it'll feel just fine.

Nice job. Good luck with this map!
Virtue-
rip kick
10:01 Virtue-: o boi rave, i forgot to mod your map again ;w;
10:01 Virtue-: lets irc rn, can u?
10:01 Raveille: LOL
10:07 Raveille: modding 2 maps atm tho
10:07 Virtue-: o rip...
10:07 Raveille: ok hold on
10:07 Raveille: lemme finish the last map
10:10 Virtue-: oki
10:16 Raveille: ok done
10:16 Virtue-: yay
10:16 *Virtue- is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1356030 Chihara Minori - Aitakatta Sora [4K Nozomu]]
10:18 Virtue-: 00:43:480 (43480|0,44230|3) - why not double?
10:18 Raveille: its not significant enough
10:18 Raveille: later on it is significant
10:18 Raveille: but now it just feels like the bass drum kick
10:18 Raveille: over and over
10:19 Virtue-: hmm, oki then
10:19 Virtue-: gud reason
10:19 Virtue-: 01:12:917 -
10:19 Virtue-: miss the hi hat?
10:20 Raveille: added
10:21 Virtue-: i found some kicks with single, why?
10:22 Virtue-: 01:52:105 (112105|1) - 01:53:417 (113417|3) - 01:54:917 (114917|1) -
10:22 Raveille: which ones
10:22 Raveille: o
10:22 Raveille: oops
10:22 Virtue-: ....
10:23 Raveille: ok added them
10:23 Virtue-: better to listen it twice coz i found MANY
10:23 Virtue-: 01:57:167 (117167|1) -
10:23 Raveille: mhm
10:23 Raveille: added that alr
10:23 Virtue-: 'w'
10:24 Virtue-: 02:37:011 (157011|2,157011|3) - ?!?!?!?!?!
10:24 Virtue-: wot is dat
10:24 Raveille: ok
10:24 Raveille: lemme just tell you about this sacred 1/8 notes
10:24 Raveille: 1/4*
10:25 Raveille: so
10:25 Raveille: in monstrata and sotarks maps
10:25 Raveille: they used 1/4s normally and got them ranked
10:25 Raveille: but when i listen
10:25 Raveille: i realize it is not 1/4 at all
10:25 Raveille: but i didnt know what the snap is
10:25 Raveille: so i put 1/4s first
10:25 Raveille: and see if anyone can help fix
10:26 Raveille: 02:36:980 - the original sound shd be here
10:27 Raveille: but idk whats the snap or need to change bpm
10:27 Virtue-: yeah, around there
10:27 Raveille: so what to do qwq
10:28 Virtue-: wait a bit, i try to find the new offset(?)
10:28 Raveille: oki
10:36 Raveille: i go eat lunch first
10:36 Raveille: brb
10:36 Virtue-: and
10:36 Virtue-: i found it
10:36 Virtue-: lol
10:36 *Raveille is away: lunch
10:36 Virtue-: i think
10:43 Virtue-: 156354, 156611, 156704, 156775
10:49 Raveille: back
10:50 Virtue-: 156354, 156611, 156704, 156775
10:50 Virtue-: new offset
10:50 Virtue-: idk if they accurate enough
10:53 Raveille: hold on
10:53 Raveille: 02:44:605 (164605|2) -
10:53 Raveille: ok uhm
10:53 Raveille: lemme fix this
10:54 Virtue-: rip ._.
10:54 Raveille: ok fixed
10:54 Raveille: wew
10:54 Raveille: dont mind those 2 highlights LOL
10:54 Virtue-: lol xD
10:55 Raveille: ok continue
10:55 Virtue-: can u update it? since the offset is moved and i dont save mine rip
10:55 Raveille: o rip
10:55 Virtue-: :(
10:56 Raveille: done
10:57 Virtue-: 03:05:980 (185980|2) - double?
10:57 Virtue-: 03:06:917 (186917|2) - 03:07:480 (187480|0) - 03:10:480 (190480|3,190667|1) - 03:11:417 (191417|0) - 03:14:042 (194042|2) -
10:58 Raveille: oh shit
10:58 Virtue-: told u
10:58 Virtue-: 03:25:292 (205292|0) - 03:31:292 (211292|0) -
10:59 Virtue-: 03:40:667 (220667|1) -
10:59 Virtue-: 03:43:105 (223105|0) - double for crash i think(?)
10:59 Raveille: but its a soft crash
10:59 Raveille: everything else fixed
10:59 Virtue-: hmmm
10:59 Virtue-: HMMMMMMMMM
10:59 Virtue-: oki =w=
10:59 Raveille: =w=
10:59 Raveille: later on there will be the crash
11:00 Raveille: where i use triple
11:01 Virtue-: 04:21:542 (261542|0) - 04:21:917 (261917|3) - 04:22:292 (262292|1) - 04:22:667 (262667|0) - 04:23:042 (263042|2) - 04:23:417 (263417|0) - 04:23:511 - rip kick
11:01 Raveille: shd i rly use double for that
11:01 Raveille: cause it will be super clustered
11:02 Raveille: 02:28:105 - i did the same for this section too
11:02 Virtue-: o shiet, im drunk =w=
11:02 Virtue-: sorry xD
11:02 Raveille: LOL
11:02 Virtue-: but can u add 04:23:511 - ?
11:02 Raveille: x3
11:02 Virtue-: there's kick
11:02 Raveille: oh ya
11:03 Raveille: 04:26:230 - added the 1/4s for violins here
11:03 Raveille: 02:33:730 (153730|0,153730|1,153730|3,153823|2,153917|1,154011|2,154105|0,154105|3,154105|1) -
11:03 Virtue-: 04:31:292 (271292|1) - 04:43:667 (283667|3) - 04:49:292 (289292|3) - 04:50:417 (290417|0) - kick plez
11:03 Virtue-: o
11:04 Raveille: oki
11:04 Raveille: done
11:04 Virtue-: okay
11:04 Virtue-: that's it
11:05 Raveille: :D
11:05 Virtue-: =w=)b
11:05 Raveille: thxxx
11:05 Raveille: d(=w=
11:05 Virtue-: make sure to add those offsets in aras's diff
Murumoo
hi :)



Ok Hitsound 100% good

(1/2/3/4)

My opinion=suggest

4K Nozomu
ok Basically good chart
00:15:363 - hm... suggest
00:17:419 (17419|1) - same
01:07:292 (67292|2) - move 2 suggest (jack)
01:12:355 (72355|2) - move 2 ^
02:52:105 (172105|0) - suggest
i cant find anymore

good luck :)
Topic Starter
Raveille

Murumoo wrote:

hi :)



Ok Hitsound 100% good

(1/2/3/4)

My opinion=suggest

4K Nozomu
ok Basically good chart
00:15:363 - hm... suggest reject, check the sound on 25% and see it begins on 00:15:269 -
00:17:419 (17419|1) - same reject again, 25% and check sound
01:07:292 (67292|2) - move 2 suggest (jack) i moved to 4 instead cause its supposed to be a column 4 jack
01:12:355 (72355|2) - move 2 ^ good point
02:52:105 (172105|0) - suggest once again, reject, hear it on 25%
i cant find anymore

good luck :)
thanks! update :D
RedBall
Hi, Raveille! Here is modding you requested to me!

+These are just my suggestions! Accepting these or not is totally depended on you. :P

Column
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 |
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |

General
- Turn off Enable countdown and Widescreen Support in Aras' 6K Mirai
- Are you using 'soft-hitclap2' and 'soft-hitwhistle2'? I can't see any. (My eyes would be wrong... lol)

Aras' 6K Mirai
when you apply suggestions, keep in mind that you should also edit hitsounds!

00:30:718 - Add a note on column 4 //to emphasize 00:30:718 (30718|2) this high-pitch-sound.
00:34:655 (34655|3) - Move to column 5 AND hitsound on that note like this -> https://puu.sh/xzmmL/49fd57be47.png //pitch
00:35:780 (35780|1,36155|2,36155|3,36530|2,36718|5,36718|1) - Change to smth like this -> https://puu.sh/xzmFg/5fb8f3270e.png //You followed hat sound like 00:34:468 (34468|2) this from 00:34:093 (it is nice because the mood changes from that point.) So, it would be good if you follow the hat sound in that part (which means 00:34:093 ~ 00:43:105] Also, I suggest you to put more notes like what I suggested since there are lots of drum and piano sounds you ignored.
00:38:030 - Add a note on column 4 if you applied the previous suggestion //there is hat + low-pitch instrumental sound + following mood
00:38:218 (38218|3) - Move to column 5 if you applied previous suggestion //hand balance
00:40:093 (40093|3) - Nice ending point! owo
01:05:417 - Add a note on column 3 with 'hat light' hitsound.
01:09:917 - Add a note on column 3 //there is big sound which you've followed at that part.
01:10:667 (70667|3,70761|2,70761|4,70855|5,70855|1) - Change like this -> https://puu.sh/xznlq/c07d9ba944.png //I think this would be better for that part because of the drum sound which is similar as 01:09:167 (69167|4,69261|2,69261|1,69355|3,69355|5) this one.
01:12:355 - Add a note on column 2 //to make 01:12:355 (72355|2) this one as double for consistency. Reference -> 01:07:855 (67855|2,67855|5) / 01:09:355 (69355|5,69355|3) etc
01:16:667 (76667|3,76761|4,76761|0,76855|2,76855|1) - Choice 1. 01:17:042 (77042|2) - Move to column 4 //I think this would be better because pitch of 01:16:855 (76855|2,76855|1) this is a bit different from 01:17:042 (77042|1,77042|2) - Choice 2. Change this part like this -> https://puu.sh/xzngL/5ecc9f958e.png ^
01:18:167 (78167|3) - Move to column 5 //01:17:980 has 01:18:167 (78167|4) this sound (F7S_s), which means they have same pitch.
01:18:542 (78542|2,78542|3,78636|1,78636|4) - two doubles on that part? hmmm.. I think it is better to make them single or single at least 01:18:636 (78636|1,78636|4) - this one. //The drum sound is reducing from 01:18:355 +++ But, do not change like this https://puu.sh/xznI5/bf38600269.png (the selected ones) because it is really awkward, lol.
-> So, my suggestion is - Choice 1. changing that part smth like this - https://puu.sh/xznRZ/11b0effd05.png //if you applied the previous suggestion, you would have a jack on column 5 before that part. Also, considering the next suggestion and 01:21:730 (81730|5,81823|4,81917|3,82011|4,82090|5) this, weighting on left hand would be a good choice imo. - Choice 2. I noticed this one. 01:57:730 (117730|5,117730|0,117823|4,117823|1,117917|3,118011|2,118105|4,118105|1,118105|5,118105|0) This would be better one. In this case, you will lost one piano hitsound in the middle of the pattern, but the pattern would become nicer.
01:18:917 - Add a note on column 4 //There's a big drum sound.
01:23:402 (83402|2) - Move to column 2 //pitch
01:23:795 (83795|2) - Move to column 4 //hmm... It is just a suggestion. I can't explain this. (My explanation skill sucks... lol)
01:29:042 (89042|3) - Move to column 5 //This feels awkward since you put jacks on that part like 01:25:855 (85855|2,86042|2) and 01:27:355 (87355|2,87355|3,87542|2,87542|3) So, putting a jack like those would be natural.
01:30:542 (90542|2) - Move to column 2 ^
01:30:167 - Add a note on column 6 //How about emphasizing the big piano sound?, adding one more piano hitsound for it if there is. (whose pitch is slightly lower than 01:30:542 (90542|3) this sound's (G5S_s))
01:34:855 (94855|4,94855|3,95042|4,95042|3) - Change this part like 01:31:855 (91855|1,91855|3,92042|2,92042|4) this one. (no jacks) //for consistency (there's still elec guitar mute sound.) + to emphasize 01:35:605 (95605|2,95605|3,95792|2,95792|3) this part.
01:49:480 - Add a note on column 3 //following the hat sound. Even though you are following piano sound (not hat sound), not adding would be kinda weird since you barely didn't put a note on hat sound during that section. <- 01:49:105 ~ 01:58:105
01:53:980 - Add a note on column 4 //There is a sound like 01:50:980 (110980|2) this.
01:54:167 (114167|3) - Move to column 5 if you applied the previous suggestion //hand balance
01:54:730 - Add a note on column 3 //hat sound + big piano sound
01:56:980 - Add a note on column 5 if you applied the previous suggestion
01:56:980 - Add a note on column 5 //hat sound
02:01:105 (121105|1,121105|3,121105|2,121480|1,121480|3,121480|2,121855|1,121855|3,121855|2,122230|3,122230|2,122230|1) - Add notes on column 5 (or, change as you want) //In this part, you emphasized 1/1 sound by ignoring other sound which you've followed until 02:00:730 So, easy quads on every 1/1 would be nice imo.
From 02:53:605 to 03:02:605 - You ignored lots of piano sound. Which sound are you following? :thonk:
03:18:261 (198261|1) - Double //consistency. Reference -> 03:19:011 (199011|3,199011|4) 03:21:261 (201261|3,201261|4) etc
03:34:011 (214011|3) - Start this LN from 03:33:917 //The over-drived elec guitar sound starts from before 03:34:011
03:47:042 (227042|4,227230|3) - https://puu.sh/xzpiH/91c5deef73.png //to emphasize 03:47:230 and not ignoring sound at 03:47:417
04:28:292 - Add a triple. //I think it is better not to ignore the drum sound even if the sound is a bit small.
04:55:876 (295876|5) - Move to column 4 //pitch
04:56:241 - Add a note on column 2 ^
04:56:606 (296606|0) - Move to column 6 if you applied the previous suggestion ^
04:58:660 (298660|1) - There is no sound. Sound is on 04:58:726 - snapped on 1/6. Or, are you making new sound? (since the note's pitch is higher than the sound I mentioned) If so, add a note on 04:58:726 //You can refer Raveille's map (4K Nozomu)
04:59:635 (299635|4) - Make it double as you did in 05:00:391 (300391|4,300391|2) / 05:01:148 (301148|4,301148|1) etc
05:07:548 (307548|3) - If you are following paino sounds, put notes on 05:07:501 and 05:07:642
05:08:772 (308772|0) - The sound is on 05:08:819 - snapped on 1/12
05:09:196 - Add a note //There is also a piano sound

4K Nozomu
when you apply suggestions, keep in mind that you should also edit hitsounds!

00:07:095 - Add a note on column 2 //You've put doubles on 4/1
00:08:601 - ^
00:29:030 - Add a note on column 1 //For consistency. And, there's also change in the vocal. (the vocal's pitch is getting lower)
00:33:343 - Add a note on column 2 //There is a piano sound which is same as 00:33:530 (33530|1) this one. (F6S_s)
00:37:655 - Add a note on column 3 //There is sound
00:38:030 - Add a note on column 2 if you applied the previous suggestions.
00:37:843 (37843|1) - Delete if you applied the previous suggestion.
00:38:218 (38218|2) - I think the vocal starts from 00:38:264 1/8 and ends on 00:38:499 (But, I think this is fine because you put piano hitsound anyway)
00:37:843 (37843|0) - End this LN on 00:38:264 1/8 if you changed 00:38:218 (38218|2) this LN's start point to 00:38:264 1/8
00:39:905 - Add a note on column 3 or Add a 3|4 double //There is a sound.
01:14:417 - Add a note on column 2 //I think this one is emphasized a lot in the song.
01:20:042 (80042|1) - Move to column 3 //I think this one should be same as 01:19:292 (79292|2,79667|2) because the sound is repeating.
01:21:167 (81167|2) - Move to column 2 if you applied the previous suggestion
02:40:480 (160480|2,160855|1,161230|2) - Ctrl + H //the pitch is same as 02:38:980 (158980|1,159355|2,159730|1) this
02:41:573 (161573|1) - Move to column 3 If you applied the previous suggestion
02:44:230 (164230|0) - This note doesn't have hitsound. It is 'D#5S_Eb5S_s' + Move to column 2 //the pitch is different from 02:43:480 (163480|0) this.
04:07:667 (247667|2,247667|0,247667|3,248042|1,248042|0,248230|2,248230|3,248323|0,248323|1,248417|3,248417|2,248511|1) - Ctrl + H //04:07:667 - pitch is different from 04:07:480
05:07:548 (307548|3) - If you are following paino sounds, put notes on 05:07:501 and 05:07:642
05:09:196 - Add a note //There is also a piano sound
05:08:772 (308772|1) - The sound is on 05:08:819 - snapped on 1/12

Nice song, map and superb hitsound!
And, I'm also glad you mapped vocal as well.

Good Luck on your mapset, Rav! :D
Topic Starter
Raveille
redball mod all accepted, waiting for aras
Aras

Raveille wrote:

redball mod all accepted, waiting for aras
I'll try to reply tomorrow rav, just came back from univ and I'm super tired uwu 20:30 here

edit : hey, this is my 777th post
Abraxos

4k

00:25:280 (25280|2,25468|1,25655|2,25843|1) - not sure why these are trilled like that; 00:28:280 (28280|3,28468|0,28655|3,28655|1) - isn't trilled

00:33:343 (33343|1,33530|1) - why stack, no percussion for this part
00:33:905 (33905|1,33905|2) - doubled? there's no percussion going along with the vocal

my guess is that you intend to follow the hihats in the music, as referenced here 00:29:780 (29780|2) -
so 00:27:343 - 00:27:905 - 00:30:905 - 00:31:280 - pretty much need some form of layering

01:01:105 - triple for crash

01:05:886 - there's still percussion here
01:06:167 - if not for the faint percussion sound the rising synths start on this beat too

01:14:417 (74417|0,74417|1,74417|3) - not sure why this tripled, 01:15:167 (75167|2) - isn't
if you wanted emphasis on the piano then you can try something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9100398 this for example, stacking for every piano beat and after

01:18:636 - there's a beat here

01:22:652 (82652|0) - to 2, 01:22:090 (82090|0,82277|0,82465|0,82652|2,82840|2,83027|2) - is what you're trying to emphasize so including 01:22:652 (82652|0) - is a bit weird

01:25:013 (85013|1,85105|3) - can crtl-g, but it's up to you here

01:29:230 (89230|2,89230|0) - move either one out of the way, there's only supposed to be one triple stack here

01:34:761 - 01:36:261 - 01:46:761 - note?

01:31:855 (91855|1,91855|0,92042|3,92042|2,92230|2,92230|0,92230|3) - if you wish to have some variation then try not to break the three note stack you've done beforehand (something like https://i.imgur.com/jp1Wqru.png would work)

01:49:667 - double, see 01:52:667 (112667|2,112667|1) -

01:49:292 - note for vocal? idk how you layered the 1/2s here

02:12:730 (132730|0,132917|1) - stack these, noticed that you did so after every snare except when there's 1/4s

02:13:292 - 02:08:789 - 02:20:792 - 02:25:292 - bass beat here, should be doubled (or at least emphasized in a certain way)
02:14:417 (134417|2,134792|1) - these are somewhat optional

02:12:355 (132355|1,132355|0,132542|3,132542|2,132730|2,132730|0,132730|3) - not sure if you intend to but like 02:09:355 (129355|0,129355|2,129542|0,129542|2,129730|1,129730|3,129730|0) - and the one before that too all have the triple stack; try to stay consistent

02:28:105 - the zuttos are pretty weirdly layered, i can't seem to see a structure to them. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9100497 you could try this, think this can also work when the 1/2 stacks are in the inner columns too

02:50:605 (170605|0,172105|0) - erm bih

03:03:917 (183917|1) - glissando

03:28:480 (208480|2,208480|0) - why is this doubled

i think the second half is essentially the same so i think you should be able to cross-refer

4k should be fine, not very offensive in any way
Topic Starter
Raveille
all eggcepted from abra
Aras

RedBall wrote:

Hi, Raveille! Here is modding you requested to me!

+These are just my suggestions! Accepting these or not is totally depended on you. :P

Column
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 |
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |



Aras' 6K Mirai
when you apply suggestions, keep in mind that you should also edit hitsounds!

00:30:718 - Add a note on column 4 //to emphasize 00:30:718 (30718|2) this high-pitch-sound. nope, only 1 there, same like 00:28:655 (28655|5) -
00:34:655 (34655|3) - Move to column 5 AND hitsound on that note like this -> https://puu.sh/xzmmL/49fd57be47.png //pitch changed other way
00:35:780 (35780|1,36155|2,36155|3,36530|2,36718|5,36718|1) - Change to smth like this -> https://puu.sh/xzmFg/5fb8f3270e.png //You followed hat sound like 00:34:468 (34468|2) this from 00:34:093 (it is nice because the mood changes from that point.) So, it would be good if you follow the hat sound in that part (which means 00:34:093 ~ 00:43:105] Also, I suggest you to put more notes like what I suggested since there are lots of drum and piano sounds you ignored. changed other way
00:38:030 - Add a note on column 4 if you applied the previous suggestion //there is hat + low-pitch instrumental sound + following mood dont hear any instrumental except bass, I only do bass layering there, it is my style to have lot of instrument layering, I play a lot of rhythm game and I noticed many rhythm game uses this kind of layering style
00:38:218 (38218|3) - Move to column 5 if you applied previous suggestion //hand balance
00:40:093 (40093|3) - Nice ending point! owo thanks dude owob
01:05:417 - Add a note on column 3 with 'hat light' hitsound. aye
01:09:917 - Add a note on column 3 //there is big sound which you've followed at that part. nope, intentionally doing that for the feel on 01:09:730 (69730|0,69730|5,69730|1,70105|4,70105|5,70105|3) -
01:10:667 (70667|3,70761|2,70761|4,70855|5,70855|1) - Change like this -> https://puu.sh/xznlq/c07d9ba944.png //I think this would be better for that part because of the drum sound which is similar as 01:09:167 (69167|4,69261|2,69261|1,69355|3,69355|5) this one. no la, want some variation
01:12:355 - Add a note on column 2 //to make 01:12:355 (72355|2) this one as double for consistency. Reference -> 01:07:855 (67855|2,67855|5) / 01:09:355 (69355|5,69355|3) etc no la, 2 note only for kick + loud instru, that one is hihat an minor instru only
01:16:667 (76667|3,76761|4,76761|0,76855|2,76855|1) - Choice 1. 01:17:042 (77042|2) - Move to column 4 //I think this would be better because pitch of 01:16:855 (76855|2,76855|1) this is a bit different from 01:17:042 (77042|1,77042|2) - Choice 2. Change this part like this -> https://puu.sh/xzngL/5ecc9f958e.png ^ owob
01:18:167 (78167|3) - Move to column 5 //01:17:980 has 01:18:167 (78167|4) this sound (F7S_s), which means they have same pitch.
01:18:542 (78542|2,78542|3,78636|1,78636|4) - two doubles on that part? hmmm.. I think it is better to make them single or single at least 01:18:636 (78636|1,78636|4) - this one. //The drum sound is reducing from 01:18:355 +++ But, do not change like this https://puu.sh/xznI5/bf38600269.png (the selected ones) because it is really awkward, lol.
-> So, my suggestion is - Choice 1. changing that part smth like this - https://puu.sh/xznRZ/11b0effd05.png //if you applied the previous suggestion, you would have a jack on column 5 before that part. Also, considering the next suggestion and 01:21:730 (81730|5,81823|4,81917|3,82011|4,82090|5) this, weighting on left hand would be a good choice imo. - Choice 2. I noticed this one. 01:57:730 (117730|5,117730|0,117823|4,117823|1,117917|3,118011|2,118105|4,118105|1,118105|5,118105|0) This would be better one. In this case, you will lost one piano hitsound in the middle of the pattern, but the pattern would become nicer. changed
01:18:917 - Add a note on column 4 //There's a big drum sound.
01:23:402 (83402|2) - Move to column 2 //pitch not changed, prefer to follow curren pitch, its muulti pitch there, also, mapping is not all about pitch lol
01:23:795 (83795|2) - Move to column 4 //hmm... It is just a suggestion. I can't explain this. (My explanation skill sucks... lol)
01:29:042 (89042|3) - Move to column 5 //This feels awkward since you put jacks on that part like 01:25:855 (85855|2,86042|2) and 01:27:355 (87355|2,87355|3,87542|2,87542|3) So, putting a jack like those would be natural. I found nothing awkward here
01:30:542 (90542|2) - Move to column 2 ^ same reason
01:30:167 - Add a note on column 6 //How about emphasizing the big piano sound?, adding one more piano hitsound for it if there is. (whose pitch is slightly lower than 01:30:542 (90542|3) this sound's (G5S_s)) designed for drum only with a bit layering
01:34:855 (94855|4,94855|3,95042|4,95042|3) - Change this part like 01:31:855 (91855|1,91855|3,92042|2,92042|4) this one. (no jacks) //for consistency (there's still elec guitar mute sound.) + to emphasize 01:35:605 (95605|2,95605|3,95792|2,95792|3) this part.
01:49:480 - Add a note on column 3 //following the hat sound. Even though you are following piano sound (not hat sound), not adding would be kinda weird since you barely didn't put a note on hat sound during that section. <- 01:49:105 ~ 01:58:105 really, why people keeps telling me to add note on every inch sound, its not about to add notes on every sound, sometimes you can ignore minority sound to give more effect on the major sound,
in this case this sound 01:49:105 (109105|5,109105|1,109105|2,109667|3,109667|4,109855|5,109855|1,109855|0) -

01:53:980 - Add a note on column 4 //There is a sound like 01:50:980 (110980|2) this. if heard on 25% yes, but on 100% it is totally overwritten by other sound, so I dont map it
01:54:167 (114167|3) - Move to column 5 if you applied the previous suggestion //hand balance
01:54:730 - Add a note on column 3 //hat sound + big piano sound like I said before, my style consist of ignoring minority sound at some point to emphasize the more major sound
01:56:980 - Add a note on column 5 if you applied the previous suggestion
01:56:980 - Add a note on column 5 //hat sound
02:01:105 (121105|1,121105|3,121105|2,121480|1,121480|3,121480|2,121855|1,121855|3,121855|2,122230|3,122230|2,122230|1) - Add notes on column 5 (or, change as you want) //In this part, you emphasized 1/1 sound by ignoring other sound which you've followed until 02:00:730 So, easy quads on every 1/1 would be nice imo.
From 02:53:605 to 03:02:605 - You ignored lots of piano sound. Which sound are you following? :thonk: you tell me which sound is it?
03:18:261 (198261|1) - Double //consistency. Reference -> 03:19:011 (199011|3,199011|4) 03:21:261 (201261|3,201261|4) etc owob
03:34:011 (214011|3) - Start this LN from 03:33:917 //The over-drived elec guitar sound starts from before 03:34:011 no, its started right there, the sound on red line you pointed is just an echo from 03:33:542 (213542|5) -
03:47:042 (227042|4,227230|3) - https://puu.sh/xzpiH/91c5deef73.png //to emphasize 03:47:230 and not ignoring sound at 03:47:417 intentionally ignored to focus on the 1/1 piano
04:28:292 - Add a triple. //I think it is better not to ignore the drum sound even if the sound is a bit small. I dont see any reason why I cant ignore it
04:55:876 (295876|5) - Move to column 4 //pitch owob
04:56:241 - Add a note on column 2 ^ for what?
04:56:606 (296606|0) - Move to column 6 if you applied the previous suggestion ^
04:58:660 (298660|1) - There is no sound. Sound is on 04:58:726 - snapped on 1/6. Or, are you making new sound? (since the note's pitch is higher than the sound I mentioned) If so, add a note on 04:58:726 //You can refer Raveille's map (4K Nozomu) owob
04:59:635 (299635|4) - Make it double as you did in 05:00:391 (300391|4,300391|2) / 05:01:148 (301148|4,301148|1) etc
05:07:548 (307548|3) - If you are following paino sounds, put notes on 05:07:501 and 05:07:642 nope, dun want any overgrace here
05:08:772 (308772|0) - The sound is on 05:08:819 - snapped on 1/12
05:09:196 - Add a note //There is also a piano sound
thanks dude, I finally have the time to reply your mod

update
Shima Rin
Hi, Mod Request through Discord.

4K:1|2|3|4


[General]
  1. This map has good piano hitsounds. But the concern is that, why in some places that the piano sounds are so expressive you don't put any piano hitsounds there? Somehow I believe if you really start to do keysounds, you may just do for all. It will make the map better in my opinion because people will be getting similar kinds of feedbacks all around the maps so they won't feel, in som places, a loss of feedbacks and suddenly such feedbacks come again lol.
  2. Please raise the piano hitsound volumes in some parts like the first and second kiai. I can barely hear them when playing this.
[4K Nozomu]
  1. 00:25:093 - 00:26:593 - 00:27:155 - 00:28:093 - 00:29:593 - These sounds are quite standing out in those bars. However, from the patterns I cant see your emphasis on them, because for them you put double notes, and for some unimportant lines like 00:25:843 - 00:26:218 - you put double notes too. They still make same impacts for the players, so the differences are quite small to perceive. There are two solutions: First is to reduce those with weaker sounds by making them all into single LNs/notes. Second is to boost those with stronger sounds by making them triple notes. I prefer the first, but I'll just list possibilities out for you to choose.
  2. 00:33:905 (33905|1) - I understand that this 1/4 length is accurately catching the length of vocal sound, but actually it will be hard for lower-level players to release it properly. To simplify it I just think it should end at 00:34:093 -
  3. 00:36:530 - Maybe wanna add one on col2 because it has same drum sound as those you put double notes with before, like 00:36:155 -
  4. 00:37:093 - Here is another heavier drum sound, so putting one more note on col2 will represent it better.
  5. 01:07:105 - to 01:13:105 - Wow really nice representation of the piano pitches. Good job! The only thing is that I think 01:13:105 - the sound volume here may substantiate it to be a triple note for better representation.
  6. 02:04:011 - Even though you get only one hitsound here, I still think it should be a double notes considering the completeness of the patterns here and the relative volume of this line compared to other lines around it.
  7. 03:03:917 (183917|0) - It makes me feel a little bit weird that only this piano sound is placed with a LN. I'd rather make it a normal note instead to keep the consistency of your representation for such sounds.
  8. 03:49:105 - You forget to add G#5S_Ab5S_s.wav as one part of piano hitsound here.
  9. 03:49:667 - Here the piano hitsound should be C6S_s.wav and G5S_s.wav as perceived.
  10. 03:51:167 - Also you forget G#5S_Ab5S_s.wav here.
  11. 04:20:323 - I don't really hear any sound here at all, including the drums. So the double notes here obviously represent nothing for me, which I suggest to delete.

I think this will be all I want to say. Good luck! ;)
Topic Starter
Raveille

Tofu1222 wrote:

Hi, Mod Request through Discord.

4K:1|2|3|4


[General]
  1. This map has good piano hitsounds. But the concern is that, why in some places that the piano sounds are so expressive you don't put any piano hitsounds there? Somehow I believe if you really start to do keysounds, you may just do for all. It will make the map better in my opinion because people will be getting similar kinds of feedbacks all around the maps so they won't feel, in som places, a loss of feedbacks and suddenly such feedbacks come again lol. Some piano sounds are expressive because those are the important piano portions. I want the player to feel like the player is going on a journey and hitting the piano notes louder and softer at some portions, if the volume stayed the same all the way it will just be a map with loud keysounds and nothing else, there is no other expression and will just not make it outstanding.
  2. Please raise the piano hitsound volumes in some parts like the first and second kiai. I can barely hear them when playing this. I will increase the volume in the kiais though but not full blast.
[4K Nozomu]
  1. 00:25:093 - 00:26:593 - 00:27:155 - 00:28:093 - 00:29:593 - These sounds are quite standing out in those bars. However, from the patterns I cant see your emphasis on them, because for them you put double notes, and for some unimportant lines like 00:25:843 - 00:26:218 - you put double notes too. They still make same impacts for the players, so the differences are quite small to perceive. There are two solutions: First is to reduce those with weaker sounds by making them all into single LNs/notes. Second is to boost those with stronger sounds by making them triple notes. I prefer the first, but I'll just list possibilities out for you to choose. mhm, did what you told for first part
  2. 00:33:905 (33905|1) - I understand that this 1/4 length is accurately catching the length of vocal sound, but actually it will be hard for lower-level players to release it properly. To simplify it I just think it should end at 00:34:093 - Fine, but I really think it shd be a 1/4 LN, but will see what BNs think if they cross it
  3. 00:36:530 - Maybe wanna add one on col2 because it has same drum sound as those you put double notes with before, like 00:36:155 - okie
  4. 00:37:093 - Here is another heavier drum sound, so putting one more note on col2 will represent it better. mhm
  5. 01:07:105 - to 01:13:105 - Wow really nice representation of the piano pitches. Good job! The only thing is that I think 01:13:105 - the sound volume here may substantiate it to be a triple note for better representation. thanks, it was mostly parachor's idea that helped shape it into this kind of pattern, and yea made it a triple
  6. 02:04:011 - Even though you get only one hitsound here, I still think it should be a double notes considering the completeness of the patterns here and the relative volume of this line compared to other lines around it. alright
  7. 03:03:917 (183917|0) - It makes me feel a little bit weird that only this piano sound is placed with a LN. I'd rather make it a normal note instead to keep the consistency of your representation for such sounds. didn't think through that actually, changed
  8. 03:49:105 - You forget to add G#5S_Ab5S_s.wav as one part of piano hitsound here.
  9. 03:49:667 - Here the piano hitsound should be C6S_s.wav and G5S_s.wav as perceived.
  10. 03:51:167 - Also you forget G#5S_Ab5S_s.wav here. all hitsounds added
  11. 04:20:323 - I don't really hear any sound here at all, including the drums. So the double notes here obviously represent nothing for me, which I suggest to delete. holy crap LOL yea

I think this will be all I want to say. Good luck! ;)
thanks for the mod :D
Asherz007
Part 1 out of I dunno

[General]
Ughhhhhhhhhhh so many hitsounds lol. Some are even unused ._. (Like A#3s_Bb3s.wav) Find and remove them, cus I'm not gonna check nearly 100 files just to find 40% of them unused or something. Was also expecting a kick and snare hitsound but they don't seem to be about in the diff. May need to give those hitsounds another serious looking into. Why's the hitnormal a snare anyway (and so quiet)?

Firstly the piano hitsounds are really quiet. One could say they (still) blend in a little too much. Didn't notice them at all during gameplay and that's not a good thing. Secondly, deciding which notes are in play and which ones are in the storyboard feels a little... random at times?

Everything else checks out I believe.

1|2|3|4

4K
Time to look through. Playing through felt fine for the most part, but gotta check since you changed stuff yesterday

  1. 00:15:269 (15269|0) - This note is... weird... Like, accuracy? Start note 1/4 earlier (where people expect it), rather than at the peak. (also extend by 1/4 to simplify this
  2. 00:17:513 (17513|1) - ^
  3. 00:21:720 - Note for guitar?
  4. 00:37:843 (37843|0,38264|2,38499|1) - Pls map vocals better thx (you're overcomplicating it) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9495439
  5. 02:02:980 (122980|3,123026|2,123073|1,123120|0,123167|3,123214|2,123261|1,123308|0) - Love how the most notice piano sounds in the audio don't actually have keysounds on them xD
  6. 02:04:011 (124011|1,124011|0,124105|2,124105|3) - woulda thought single-triple here for crash, regardless of the keysounds (what's tofu been tellin' ya?)
  7. 02:16:105 (136105|3,136105|0) - rather this be [12] than [14] cus OH trills are annoying xd
  8. 03:10:855 (190855|0,190855|3,190855|2,190948|3,190948|2) - Can't hear the intensity difference for one to be a triple and the other a double tbh
  9. 03:17:605 - No keysounds? >_>
  10. 04:58:660 (298660|3) - Wrong snap?
  11. 05:07:501 (307501|2,307642|0) - ...what
  12. 05:09:196 (309196|0) - why
I mean the chart itself is mostly fine, but the hitsounding/keysounding is the real big problem here. Most of the keysounds are more or less inaudible, which kinda makes them pointless to point there in the first place. Which is a shame, because they sound quite nice. Recommend you put some louder samples in so that effort that's gone into the keysounds can actually be heard.

Long time coming, but here ya go I guess.

Lemme know if 6k is staying or not whenever.
Topic Starter
Raveille
Reminders to:

- Delete hit/keysounds (https://puu.sh/yhanm/d0890e8424.png)
- Change keysounds to 70 vol
- Change green/red lines to 15 vol / 10 vol
- Change hitnormal with soft-slidertick

Edit: ALL DONE! ALL APPLIED TOO (ending snaps I just either changed them or deleted)
Himari Kino
Glad to see this in mania <3
Asherz007
rip 6k

Apparently I'm meant to post another mod but my formatting goes out of the window for this lol

  1. Check for dissonance and whatnot (turning the music off and listening to just keysounds etc) (big dissonance at 03:59:230 which I have to point out regardless)
  2. Speaking of which, the use of the cymbal hitsound feels odd when you only use it in some places where it is appropriate, but not all. Like 01:25:105 (85105|1) or 01:37:105 (97105|2) as opposed to 01:58:105 (118105|3) etc.
  3. Snap/delete storyboard hitsounds because sometimes they aren't lining up properly since red lines https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9588436
  4. Keysounds are still being heavily hidden by audio (I think), particularly in kiai
  5. May want to check timing at the end. Even though ranked maps have the same timing, it's not always 100% accurate. (Like 04:58:292 (298292|2,298726|0,298858|1,298858|3,298858|2) feel out of sync slightly. Also perhaps a few pitch errors here as well if you're going 1:1 with the mp3)
The chart itself looks fine so just these other things to get out of the way.

There's the "mod" you wanted... I think?
Topic Starter
Raveille

Asherz007 wrote:

rip 6k

Apparently I'm meant to post another mod but my formatting goes out of the window for this lol

  1. Check for dissonance and whatnot (turning the music off and listening to just keysounds etc) (big dissonance at 03:59:230 which I have to point out regardless)
  2. Speaking of which, the use of the cymbal hitsound feels odd when you only use it in some places where it is appropriate, but not all. Like 01:25:105 (85105|1) or 01:37:105 (97105|2) as opposed to 01:58:105 (118105|3) etc.
  3. Snap/delete storyboard hitsounds because sometimes they aren't lining up properly since red lines https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9588436
  4. Keysounds are still being heavily hidden by audio (I think), particularly in kiai
  5. May want to check timing at the end. Even though ranked maps have the same timing, it's not always 100% accurate. (Like 04:58:292 (298292|2,298726|0,298858|1,298858|3,298858|2) feel out of sync slightly. Also perhaps a few pitch errors here as well if you're going 1:1 with the mp3)
The chart itself looks fine so just these other things to get out of the way.

There's the "mod" you wanted... I think?
to fix in 12 hours iuHOSDHUIASD98HIUOSADHIDA

Edit: ALL DONE!
Asherz007
Windows explorer is completely failing to function right now for some reason, but osu and chrome will still work lol

tl;dr needs more cymbal crashiness

box=box=box=box=box
  1. 01:07:105 - maybe, but would recommend it
  2. 01:13:105 -
  3. 01:17:417 -
  4. 01:19:105 - moreso here I think
  5. 01:22:090 -
  6. 01:23:402 -
  7. 01:49:105 -
  8. 01:55:105 (115105|3) - 31% wat
  9. 01:58:105 -
  10. 02:01:105 -
  11. 02:10:105 -
  12. 02:16:105 - maybe
  13. 02:27:167 -
  14. 03:05:605 -
  15. 03:12:730 -
  16. 03:14:605 -
  17. 03:16:667 - maybe (also section around here seems devoid of hitsounds, might want to add some in)
  18. 03:27:730 - maybe
  19. 03:37:105 -
  20. 03:40:105 -
  21. 03:56:605 -
  22. 04:02:605 -
  23. 04:08:605 -
  24. 04:17:605 - maybe
  25. 04:19:667 -
  26. 04:26:605 -
  27. 04:27:167 -

Fix unsnapped storyboarded ks still

moar box
  1. 00:01:095 -
  2. 00:07:860 -
  3. 00:09:338 -
  4. 00:10:112 -
  5. 00:11:627 -
  6. 00:13:104 -
  7. ...
tl;dr you messed it up at basically every red line in the starting half. Check the rest just in case.

The keysounds in non-kiai are like... sometimes in sb? We've spoken about this before, but I feel like there needs to be a pattern to the ones that are in field, else you could easily say that the ones in the sb can interfere. (Swear they're still still too quiet or smth. Still gonna suggest replacing with raika's "Hard" sampleset)

also still feel like there are a few notational clashes/ places where there could be different keysounds that might sound better about (like I feel 02:08:230 (128230|2) - should be F5 rather than E5 for Csus4/G or 02:07:480 - could contain an A# in the chord for that Gdim feel). Becoming more and more optional I guess but it may still be worth it to take a look through.)

Kinda really tired so 'scuse the messy format this time uwu

Will check unused files next time I look
Asherz007
Took longer than expected, but we're finally there.

irc
2017-11-30 10:11 Raveille: mr ash
2017-11-30 10:11 Raveille: how do i open sb editor
2017-11-30 10:11 Raveille: the one with the yellow things
2017-11-30 10:11 Asherz007: tab
2017-11-30 10:11 Raveille: owo thx cutie
2017-11-30 10:11 Asherz007: owo)b
2017-11-30 10:15 Raveille: btw when you mean cymbal
2017-11-30 10:15 Raveille: do you mean cymbal or drum finish
2017-11-30 10:16 Asherz007: uh
2017-11-30 10:16 Asherz007: wait you have two don't you
2017-11-30 10:16 Asherz007: :/
2017-11-30 10:16 Raveille: i have cymbal and drum finish
2017-11-30 10:16 Raveille: cymbal is a lighter shorter sound
2017-11-30 10:16 Raveille: drum finish is longer
2017-11-30 10:16 Asherz007: the one that actually sounds like a more natural crash
2017-11-30 10:16 Asherz007: whichever one that was
2017-11-30 10:16 Raveille: more a natural crash? hmm
2017-11-30 10:17 Raveille: idrk which is more a natural crash LOL uh
2017-11-30 10:17 Asherz007: I think it was the drum one? Though I might have included a couple where the other one would be more appropriate
2017-11-30 10:17 Raveille: can you quickly go to aitakatta and check the sounds
2017-11-30 10:17 Raveille: i
2017-11-30 10:17 Raveille: o
2017-11-30 10:17 Raveille: ok ok
[...]
2017-11-30 10:31 Asherz007: I feel too lazy to check these hs lol
2017-11-30 10:32 Raveille: lmao
2017-11-30 10:32 Raveille: qwq
2017-11-30 10:32 Asherz007: yeah that cymbalSSD one
2017-11-30 10:32 Asherz007: god I never liked that hitsound
[...]
2017-11-30 11:58 Raveille: yo ash
2017-11-30 11:58 Asherz007: henlo
2017-11-30 11:58 Raveille: so i totally forgot to check the storyboard hitsound to see which shd be on the playing field
2017-11-30 11:59 Raveille: so i update it again
2017-11-30 11:59 Raveille: but i wanna ask
2017-11-30 11:59 Raveille: shd I change all sb hitsounds to 100 vol
2017-11-30 11:59 Raveille: since you said you cant hear em
2017-11-30 11:59 Asherz007: dunno tbh lol
2017-11-30 11:59 Raveille: although i can hear em loud and clear LOL
2017-11-30 11:59 Asherz007: I mean they're audible if you try to listen to them
2017-11-30 11:59 Raveille: would you prefer sb hitsounds to not be 100 or 100
2017-11-30 11:59 Asherz007: they're there but not standing out if you know what I mean
2017-11-30 12:00 Raveille: so
2017-11-30 12:00 Raveille: i shd make it a 100
2017-11-30 12:00 Raveille: no worries though i alr have that done :P
2017-11-30 12:00 Raveille: just not uploaded yet
2017-11-30 12:00 Asherz007: oki
2017-11-30 12:00 Raveille: just check the updated aitakatta first
2017-11-30 12:00 Asherz007: I have some bookmarks saved so I won't update for the time being
2017-11-30 12:00 Asherz007: uwu
2017-11-30 12:00 Raveille: let me know if the sb is fine or not
2017-11-30 12:00 Raveille: ooo ok
2017-11-30 12:00 Raveille: uw u
2017-11-30 12:00 Raveille: i need you to know if the sb is fine or not though qwq
2017-11-30 12:01 Raveille: can you copy paste bookmarks over?
2017-11-30 12:01 Raveille: on .osu
2017-11-30 12:01 Asherz007: I could lol
2017-11-30 12:01 Asherz007: one sec
2017-11-30 12:01 Raveille: oki
2017-11-30 12:01 Raveille: ' 2'
2017-11-30 12:01 Asherz007: so what changed
2017-11-30 12:02 Raveille: i shifted storyboard hitsound to notes that didnt have hitsounds on the playing field
2017-11-30 12:02 Raveille: i didnt add any extra notes
2017-11-30 12:02 Raveille: i think...
2017-11-30 12:02 Asherz007: eg?
2017-11-30 12:03 Raveille: check the intro
2017-11-30 12:03 Raveille: there are keysounds in the sb that i shifted over to the playing field
2017-11-30 12:03 Asherz007: I feel like I'm being completely blind lol
2017-11-30 12:04 Asherz007: hl a couple for me xd
2017-11-30 12:04 Raveille: wut
2017-11-30 12:04 Raveille: 00:25:095 - this section onwards
2017-11-30 12:04 Asherz007: oh whoops
2017-11-30 12:04 Raveille: previously this section didnt even have keysounds on the playing field LOL
2017-11-30 12:04 Asherz007: wrong section then lmao
2017-11-30 12:04 Raveille: well it kinda did
2017-11-30 12:04 Raveille: but not a lot
2017-11-30 12:04 Raveille: huh
2017-11-30 12:05 Asherz007: yeah that looks good
2017-11-30 12:05 Raveille: okie 'w '
2017-11-30 12:05 Asherz007: As in I was looking at the wrong place :P
2017-11-30 12:05 Raveille: does it sound good tho
2017-11-30 12:05 Raveille: LOL
2017-11-30 12:05 Asherz007: btw what volume balance and stuff do you use in game
2017-11-30 12:06 Raveille: 100 100 100
2017-11-30 12:06 Raveille: so all 100
2017-11-30 12:06 Asherz007: oh lol
2017-11-30 12:06 Asherz007: I mean the keysounds are there, but you have to try to hear them, else they feel like they just blend
2017-11-30 12:07 Asherz007: Annoying thing about keysounds is they gotta stick out quite a bit
2017-11-30 12:07 Raveille: alright
2017-11-30 12:07 Raveille: 100% all it is xd
2017-11-30 12:07 Asherz007: lol
2017-11-30 12:08 Raveille: actually 100% at the end sounds very weird
2017-11-30 12:08 Raveille: nerfing to 70...
2017-11-30 12:09 Asherz007: the end volume is fine I reckon
2017-11-30 12:09 Raveille: o wait nvm
2017-11-30 12:09 Raveille: its kinda ok
2017-11-30 12:09 Asherz007: since it's just piano
2017-11-30 12:09 Raveille: LOL
2017-11-30 12:09 Asherz007: just sort it out :3
2017-11-30 12:09 Raveille: k uploading now
2017-11-30 12:10 Raveille: ding dong bell
2017-11-30 12:10 Raveille: done
2017-11-30 12:11 Asherz007: ones in play are still at 70% lul
2017-11-30 12:11 Asherz007: gl o3o
2017-11-30 12:11 Raveille: wut
2017-11-30 12:11 Raveille: oh
2017-11-30 12:11 Raveille: 70 shd be fine xd
2017-11-30 12:11 Raveille: only did 100 for the kiai
2017-11-30 12:12 Asherz007: that's what they want you to think
2017-11-30 12:12 Raveille: who is they
2017-11-30 12:12 Asherz007: just that 70 in play/ 100 in sb is like :thinking:
2017-11-30 12:12 Raveille: o
2017-11-30 12:12 Raveille: so
2017-11-30 12:12 Raveille: shd I nerf sb to 70 then
2017-11-30 12:12 Asherz007: probs a good idea in non kiai
2017-11-30 12:12 Raveille: oh fuck
2017-11-30 12:12 Raveille: ok then
2017-11-30 12:12 Asherz007: sowwi uwu
2017-11-30 12:13 Raveille: nightmare here i come
2017-11-30 12:13 Asherz007: After that just lemme know or something cus wanna check stuff I bookmarked
2017-11-30 12:14 Raveille: alright
2017-11-30 12:21 Raveille: ok done
2017-11-30 12:21 Raveille: hai
2017-11-30 12:21 Asherz007: hai
2017-11-30 12:21 Raveille: trusty ash is owo google spreadsheet saved me again
2017-11-30 12:22 Raveille: i have 10 tabs now LMAO
2017-11-30 12:22 Raveille: in the sheet
2017-11-30 12:22 Asherz007: xd
2017-11-30 12:23 Asherz007: 00:07:657 (7657|2) - sb
2017-11-30 12:23 Raveille: hm?
2017-11-30 12:23 Raveille: it shd be in the sb?
2017-11-30 12:24 Asherz007: oops
2017-11-30 12:24 Raveille: or are you asking me to move the note in the sb to the playing area?
2017-11-30 12:24 Raveille: LOL
2017-11-30 12:24 Asherz007: stupid editor
2017-11-30 12:24 Raveille: cause the keysound is in the playing area
2017-11-30 12:24 Raveille: xddd
2017-11-30 12:24 Asherz007: 00:10:862 - sb
2017-11-30 12:24 Asherz007: dere we go
2017-11-30 12:24 Asherz007: look in sb
2017-11-30 12:24 Raveille: wtf how wasnt it snapped
2017-11-30 12:24 Raveille: sorcery
2017-11-30 12:24 Asherz007: @_@
2017-11-30 12:25 Raveille: ok done
2017-11-30 12:26 Asherz007: navigating bookmarks is useless lol
2017-11-30 12:26 Raveille: LMAO
2017-11-30 12:26 Raveille: bookmarks are semi-useless
2017-11-30 12:26 Raveille: since they are just there to let you know about a section
2017-11-30 12:26 Raveille: or something you wanna check later
2017-11-30 12:26 Asherz007: 01:19:105 - quad what (also wrong cymbal crash I think)
2017-11-30 12:26 Raveille: but you can teleport to it :/
2017-11-30 12:27 Raveille: o no quad? ok
2017-11-30 12:27 Asherz007: nah doesn't need the quad tbh
2017-11-30 12:27 Raveille: changed cymbal to drum finish and sent it to storyboard jail >:)
2017-11-30 12:27 Raveille: owo)b
2017-11-30 12:27 Asherz007: wait wut
2017-11-30 12:27 Asherz007: sent what to sb
2017-11-30 12:27 Raveille: hm?
2017-11-30 12:27 Raveille: sent the drum finish
2017-11-30 12:27 Asherz007: wI
2017-11-30 12:27 Raveille: nnote
2017-11-30 12:27 Asherz007: wai
2017-11-30 12:27 Raveille: so the quad becomes a hand
2017-11-30 12:28 Raveille: and the drum finish is in the storyboard
2017-11-30 12:28 Raveille: unless you want me to swap the drum finish with a piano note
2017-11-30 12:28 Asherz007: keep the crash hitsound in play and put something else in
2017-11-30 12:28 Raveille: in the sb
2017-11-30 12:28 Raveille: ok ok
2017-11-30 12:28 Asherz007: all of the other crashes are in play so I don't see why this one shouldn't be lol
2017-11-30 12:28 Raveille: sending G#3
2017-11-30 12:28 Raveille: to sb
2017-11-30 12:28 Raveille: d(owo
2017-11-30 12:29 Asherz007: 01:22:090 (82090|1) - I am allergic to this cymbal noise :^)
2017-11-30 12:29 Raveille: wow sorry patient :c
2017-11-30 12:29 Raveille: changed to drum finish
2017-11-30 12:29 Asherz007: There's only like a few places in the middle section where I feel cymbalSSD is more appropriate
2017-11-30 12:29 Raveille: mmm
2017-11-30 12:29 Asherz007: other than that drum finish seems better imo
2017-11-30 12:30 Raveille: theres some parts i didnt apply the cymbal/finish btw
2017-11-30 12:30 Raveille: from your mod
2017-11-30 12:30 Asherz007: >_>
2017-11-30 12:30 Raveille: mostly the "maybe"
2017-11-30 12:30 Raveille: <_<
2017-11-30 12:30 Asherz007: lol
2017-11-30 12:30 Raveille: i just didnt feel its strong enough
2017-11-30 12:30 01:23:402 (83402|1) - *sneezes*
2017-11-30 12:30 Raveille: or had an impact or significance to the song for the player
2017-11-30 12:30 Asherz007: it's my allergy
2017-11-30 12:31 Raveille: yea i changed it to the finish owp
2017-11-30 12:31 Asherz007: 01:49:105 - finish y/n
2017-11-30 12:31 Raveille: o
2017-11-30 12:31 Raveille: yes
2017-11-30 12:31 Raveille: sent F3 to sb
2017-11-30 12:31 Asherz007: basically the cymbalSSD feels too short most of the time as well
2017-11-30 12:32 Raveille: tup
2017-11-30 12:32 Raveille: yup
2017-11-30 12:32 Raveille: its mostly for a louder hi hat-ish sound
2017-11-30 12:32 Asherz007: mhm
2017-11-30 12:32 Asherz007: 01:58:105 (118105|3) -
2017-11-30 12:32 Raveille: luls
2017-11-30 12:32 Raveille: changed
2017-11-30 12:32 02:01:105 (121105|1) - *sneezes again*
2017-11-30 12:33 Raveille: :thinking:
2017-11-30 12:33 Raveille: changed
2017-11-30 12:33 Asherz007: 02:10:105 (130105|1) - +shouldn't this be triple too
2017-11-30 12:33 Raveille: not rly
2017-11-30 12:33 Raveille: isnt strong enough for a triple
2017-11-30 12:33 Raveille: its following the 2-1-3 pattern too
2017-11-30 12:33 Raveille: 2-1-3-1
2017-11-30 12:33 Asherz007: might be a good idea to remove crash entirely there then
2017-11-30 12:34 Raveille: o
2017-11-30 12:34 Raveille: oki
2017-11-30 12:34 Asherz007: skip a bit
2017-11-30 12:34 Asherz007: 02:44:605 (164605|2) -
2017-11-30 12:34 Raveille: LOL
2017-11-30 12:34 Raveille: mm
2017-11-30 12:34 Raveille: done
2017-11-30 12:35 Asherz007: 02:47:605 (167605|0) - 31% wut
2017-11-30 12:35 Raveille: nani
2017-11-30 12:35 Raveille: changed to 70
2017-11-30 12:35 Raveille: i think a ghost changed it to 31
2017-11-30 12:35 Raveille: :blobghost:
2017-11-30 12:35 Asherz007: :blobghostr:
2017-11-30 12:35 Asherz007: 02:50:605 (170605|1) -
2017-11-30 12:36 Raveille: succ changed
2017-11-30 12:36 Asherz007: 02:50:605 (170605|1) - crash y/n
2017-11-30 12:36 Asherz007: gdi
2017-11-30 12:36 Asherz007: 02:52:105 -
2017-11-30 12:36 Raveille: LOL
2017-11-30 12:37 Raveille: ye
2017-11-30 12:37 Raveille: ok added
2017-11-30 12:37 Asherz007: skip a bit
2017-11-30 12:37 Asherz007: 03:14:605 - crash y/n
2017-11-30 12:38 Raveille: hmmm
2017-11-30 12:38 Raveille: ye ok
2017-11-30 12:38 Asherz007: 03:17:605 (197605|3) - what happened to F
2017-11-30 12:38 Raveille: put the drum kick into sb
2017-11-30 12:38 Raveille: wut
2017-11-30 12:38 Asherz007: there used to be something else there
2017-11-30 12:39 Raveille: i dont think it was an F...
2017-11-30 12:39 Raveille: dont think an F was supposed to be there LOL
2017-11-30 12:39 Asherz007: It made sense to be there
2017-11-30 12:39 Raveille: rly
2017-11-30 12:39 Raveille: hmm
2017-11-30 12:39 Asherz007: ye
2017-11-30 12:39 Raveille: what shd I chhange out then
2017-11-30 12:40 Asherz007: I think my issue was F was at 15%
2017-11-30 12:40 Asherz007: replace the hit echo with F
2017-11-30 12:40 Raveille: o
2017-11-30 12:40 Raveille: so how do i make it higher
2017-11-30 12:40 Raveille: cause i dont wanna add green lines
2017-11-30 12:40 Raveille: and i want the rest of the normal hitsounds to be at 15
2017-11-30 12:41 Asherz007: in the sample import box tick use basic sample
2017-11-30 12:41 Asherz007: probably change volume to 100% so it's loud enough
2017-11-30 12:41 Raveille: basic sample then uh
2017-11-30 12:41 Raveille: which number
2017-11-30 12:41 Raveille: customset
2017-11-30 12:42 Asherz007: I leave it at 0 since it doesn't really matter I think
2017-11-30 12:42 Asherz007: I'll have to experiment with that though since I haven't really found out yet
2017-11-30 12:42 Raveille: ok done
2017-11-30 12:42 Raveille: ok the finish is at 70 :3
2017-11-30 12:42 Asherz007: whatever lol
2017-11-30 12:43 Raveille: xd
2017-11-30 12:43 Asherz007: 70 is just about loud enough (woulda gone for 100 myself but w/e)
2017-11-30 12:43 Asherz007: 03:19:480 - tom hit 2 pls thx
2017-11-30 12:43 Raveille: oh wait
2017-11-30 12:43 Raveille: lemme change it to 100 then xd
2017-11-30 12:44 Raveille: ok finish is at 100
2017-11-30 12:44 Raveille: and added
2017-11-30 12:44 Asherz007: 03:35:605 (215605|0) - 31%
2017-11-30 12:44 Asherz007: 03:40:105 (220105|1) - swap cymbal
2017-11-30 12:44 Raveille: ok ghosts are changing my sounds confirmed
2017-11-30 12:44 Raveille: oki
2017-11-30 12:45 Asherz007: 03:50:417 - move sound from sb in field because it looks odd otherwise
2017-11-30 12:45 Asherz007: imo anyway
2017-11-30 12:45 Raveille: ok
2017-11-30 12:46 Asherz007: 03:56:605 (236605|2) - let's have 100% for this one again then
2017-11-30 12:47 Raveille: done done uwu
2017-11-30 12:47 Asherz007: 04:19:667 - crash y/n
2017-11-30 12:48 Asherz007: 04:50:605 - crash y/n
2017-11-30 12:48 Raveille: ye
2017-11-30 12:48 Raveille: wait
2017-11-30 12:48 Raveille: WIT
2017-11-30 12:48 Asherz007: that was the last one lol
2017-11-30 12:49 Raveille: ok yes to both
2017-11-30 12:49 Raveille: and applied
2017-11-30 12:49 Asherz007: oki
2017-11-30 12:49 Asherz007: last thing before update then
2017-11-30 12:49 Asherz007: there's some redundant timing points
2017-11-30 12:49 Asherz007: 02:03:730 -
2017-11-30 12:49 Asherz007: 03:17:605 -
2017-11-30 12:50 Asherz007: 03:43:105 -
2017-11-30 12:50 Raveille: which ones
2017-11-30 12:50 Asherz007: 03:56:698 -
2017-11-30 12:50 Asherz007: The ones I'm HLing for ya lol
2017-11-30 12:50 Raveille: holy
2017-11-30 12:50 Raveille: ok calm down you might get silenced LOL
2017-11-30 12:50 Asherz007: I mean just those 4 I think
2017-11-30 12:51 Raveille: yup
2017-11-30 12:51 Raveille: those 4 only
2017-11-30 12:51 Raveille: oh one more thing
2017-11-30 12:51 Raveille: the final few red lines
2017-11-30 12:51 Asherz007: 05:06:513 - Reducing the volume here is kinda pointless since everything here is imported anyway but whatever lol
2017-11-30 12:51 Raveille: i slowed down the green lines a bit so its slower :P
2017-11-30 12:51 Raveille: o
2017-11-30 12:51 Raveille: oki
2017-11-30 12:51 Asherz007: Should probs double check that
2017-11-30 12:52 Raveille: it shd be fine
2017-11-30 12:52 Raveille: it isnt anything too evening-like xd
2017-11-30 12:52 Raveille: its just a gradual slowdown
2017-11-30 12:52 Asherz007: From where exactly
2017-11-30 12:52 Asherz007: (too lazy to do the maths rn lul)
2017-11-30 12:52 Raveille: hold on
2017-11-30 12:53 Raveille: 1. Offset: -415ms BPM: 160.00
2017-11-30 12:53 Raveille: shit wrong
2017-11-30 12:53 Raveille: 05:02:787 -
2017-11-30 12:53 Asherz007: lol
2017-11-30 12:54 Asherz007: I'm thinking you might want to make the slowdown a bit heavier
2017-11-30 12:54 Raveille: o
2017-11-30 12:54 Asherz007: 05:04:477 (304477|0) - also this note is late
2017-11-30 12:55 Raveille: 05:04:420 - move it here
2017-11-30 12:55 Raveille: 05:04:017 - will buff SVs here
2017-11-30 12:55 Asherz007: by like 1/32
2017-11-30 12:55 Asherz007: the 1/16 is too early I feel
2017-11-30 12:55 Raveille: o
2017-11-30 12:55 Raveille: wut
2017-11-30 12:56 Raveille: how do i do 1/32
2017-11-30 12:56 Asherz007: lol
2017-11-30 12:56 Asherz007: might have to adjust the timing points slightly
2017-11-30 12:56 Asherz007: the timing came from a standard map, right
2017-11-30 12:56 Raveille: wut
2017-11-30 12:57 Raveille: uh
2017-11-30 12:57 Raveille: yea
2017-11-30 12:57 Raveille: monstrata and sotarks both had same timing poitns
2017-11-30 12:58 Raveille: but lower the green line
2017-11-30 12:58 Raveille: shd i double the bpm at05:04:017 -
2017-11-30 12:58 Asherz007: yeah standard timing can be approximated much more than in mania
2017-11-30 12:58 Raveille: 130.25bpm
2017-11-30 12:58 Raveille: SV of 1.13
2017-11-30 12:59 Raveille: is that ok?
2017-11-30 13:00 Asherz007: aight
2017-11-30 13:00 Asherz007: new timing points for ya
2017-11-30 13:00 Asherz007: 05:04:017 - 70bpm
2017-11-30 13:01 Asherz007: 05:04:445 - (where red line should be) 60.775bpm
2017-11-30 13:01 Asherz007: continue as normal
2017-11-30 13:02 Raveille: wait what
2017-11-30 13:02 Asherz007: It'll be slightly easier to control the slowdown there as well then
2017-11-30 13:02 Raveille: so i add one at 05:04:445 - ?
2017-11-30 13:02 Asherz007: yeah
2017-11-30 13:02 Raveille: ok added
2017-11-30 13:02 Asherz007: then normalise with slowdown
2017-11-30 13:03 Raveille: yup
2017-11-30 13:03 Raveille: did that too
2017-11-30 13:03 Asherz007: It just looked a little odd that that was the only note there without a timing point
2017-11-30 13:03 Raveille: o
2017-11-30 13:04 Asherz007: yep lol
2017-11-30 13:04 Raveille: alright
2017-11-30 13:04 Raveille: anything else?
2017-11-30 13:04 Asherz007: should be good to update now I guess
2017-11-30 13:04 Raveille: ok
2017-11-30 13:06 Raveille: updated
2017-11-30 13:07 Asherz007: what else is there to do with this lol
2017-11-30 13:07 Raveille: sex it ' w'
2017-11-30 13:07 Asherz007: 00:00:710 (710|2,1095|3) - btw no ks for these?
2017-11-30 13:07 Asherz007: 00:03:157 (3157|1,3720|1) -
2017-11-30 13:08 Raveille: LOL
2017-11-30 13:08 Raveille: uh
2017-11-30 13:08 Asherz007: 00:12:752 (12752|3,12939|2) - not even ones for storyboard here so idk about these ones
2017-11-30 13:09 Raveille: added HAHAHA
2017-11-30 13:09 Raveille: xd
2017-11-30 13:09 Asherz007: 00:24:157 (24157|3) -
2017-11-30 13:10 Raveille: oki
2017-11-30 13:10 Raveille: aadded'
2017-11-30 13:11 Asherz007: 01:13:105 (73105|2) - uwu
2017-11-30 13:11 Raveille: hello darkness my old friend....
2017-11-30 13:11 Raveille: added
2017-11-30 13:11 Asherz007: added what tho o3o
2017-11-30 13:12 Raveille: o i nmean
2017-11-30 13:12 Raveille: swap
2017-11-30 13:12 Raveille: with drum finish
2017-11-30 13:12 Asherz007: :P
2017-11-30 13:13 Raveille: d:
2017-11-30 13:14 Asherz007: 03:10:292 - no soft-hitclap here?
2017-11-30 13:15 Asherz007: 03:14:230 (194230|0,194230|3,194323|2,194323|1,194417|0,194417|3,194511|1,194511|2) - could probs have some here as well maybe
2017-11-30 13:15 Raveille: o
2017-11-30 13:15 Raveille: oki
2017-11-30 13:16 Asherz007: hitsounds :thinkowo:
2017-11-30 13:17 Raveille: :thinkowo:
2017-11-30 13:17 Asherz007: 04:54:730 (294730|1) - remove and replace with sb sound
2017-11-30 13:18 Asherz007: wait
2017-11-30 13:18 Asherz007: just swap them
2017-11-30 13:18 Asherz007: since c# is for vocals and those are all sb'd here I think
2017-11-30 13:19 Raveille: o
2017-11-30 13:19 Raveille: oki
2017-11-30 13:19 Raveille: done
2017-11-30 13:19 Asherz007: Or just remove other sb sounds from 04:53:605 - to 04:56:241 -
2017-11-30 13:19 Asherz007: since vocal ks stop for some reason
2017-11-30 13:19 Raveille: o
2017-11-30 13:20 Raveille: oki done
2017-11-30 13:20 Raveille: removed
2017-11-30 13:21 Asherz007: 05:07:501 (307501|1,307784|3) - wrong octave lul
2017-11-30 13:21 Asherz007: G#4 and A#4 here
2017-11-30 13:21 Raveille: o
2017-11-30 13:21 Raveille: oki done
2017-11-30 13:22 Asherz007: I hope that's everything lol
2017-11-30 13:22 Raveille: shd be
2017-11-30 13:23 Asherz007: just the unused files left to check I guess
2017-11-30 13:23 Asherz007: mind updating first?
2017-11-30 13:23 Raveille: alright
2017-11-30 13:24 Raveille: done
2017-11-30 13:24 Raveille: :P
2017-11-30 13:26 Asherz007: when was a .osb there
2017-11-30 13:27 Raveille: isnt the osb the sb
2017-11-30 13:27 Raveille: idk
2017-11-30 13:28 Asherz007: Well yeah, I mean no big deal I guess... just for something that has one diff to have stuff both in .osb and .osu just looks a little weird
2017-11-30 13:29 Raveille: o
2017-11-30 13:29 Raveille: LOl
2017-11-30 13:29 Raveille: true
2017-11-30 13:31 Asherz007: I swear someone has a program for checking unused hitsounds lol
2017-11-30 13:31 Raveille: dudehacker
2017-11-30 13:31 Raveille: i alr did that
2017-11-30 13:32 Asherz007: :thinking:
2017-11-30 13:32 Raveille: :P
2017-11-30 13:32 Asherz007: Where can I get this program lol
2017-11-30 13:32 Asherz007: I'm feeling lazy
2017-11-30 13:32 Raveille: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5392330
2017-11-30 13:33 Raveille: hitsound detective no. 4
2017-11-30 13:33 Raveille: waitt
2017-11-30 13:33 Raveille: wrong wrong
2017-11-30 13:33 Raveille: wait
2017-11-30 13:33 Raveille: nvm its right HAHAHA
2017-11-30 13:33 Raveille: im dumb
2017-11-30 13:35 Asherz007: man this java program is slow this time lol
2017-11-30 13:35 Raveille: LOl
2017-11-30 13:35 Raveille: rip
2017-11-30 13:35 Asherz007: might go and find kivi and nab his stuff
2017-11-30 13:36 Raveille: ooo
2017-11-30 13:36 Raveille: awite
2017-11-30 13:36 Asherz007: I can't tell whether this is doing anything
2017-11-30 13:37 Raveille: >Check SB hitsound, and also added check for unused hitsound.
2017-11-30 13:38 Asherz007: :thinking:
2017-11-30 13:39 Raveille: hmm
2017-11-30 13:39 Asherz007: so what's happening about the stuff in .osb
2017-11-30 13:39 Asherz007: probs easier just to delete it
2017-11-30 13:39 Raveille: ok then LOL
2017-11-30 13:39 Asherz007: I mean I was working without it all this time so uh
2017-11-30 13:40 Raveille: deleted it :P
2017-11-30 13:40 Asherz007: oki owo)b
2017-11-30 13:40 Raveille: d(owo
2017-11-30 13:40 Asherz007: old editor has a secret fast forward button lul
2017-11-30 13:41 Raveille: wut
2017-11-30 13:41 Asherz007: funny lol
2017-11-30 13:42 Raveille: :thinking:
2017-11-30 13:48 Raveille: ' w '
2017-11-30 13:48 Asherz007: OH trills are :thinking:
2017-11-30 13:49 Raveille: they are nice o 3 o
2017-11-30 13:49 Asherz007: no biggie
2017-11-30 13:49 Asherz007: update minus osb and should be good
2017-11-30 13:49 Asherz007: fingers crossed
2017-11-30 13:49 Raveille: oki
2017-11-30 13:49 Raveille: make sure to delet and redl
2017-11-30 13:50 Asherz007: lemme know when you're done
2017-11-30 13:50 Raveille: mhm
2017-11-30 13:50 Raveille: ok updated
2017-11-30 13:50 Raveille: :P
2017-11-30 13:52 Asherz007: Time to do typical questions then
2017-11-30 13:52 Raveille: hm?
2017-11-30 13:52 Asherz007: you happy with everything here?
2017-11-30 13:52 Raveille: yup
2017-11-30 13:52 Asherz007: wanting to make any changes?
2017-11-30 13:52 Raveille: nope
2017-11-30 13:53 Asherz007: aight time to take a final look through then
2017-11-30 13:53 Raveille: oki
2017-11-30 13:58 Asherz007: all good?
2017-11-30 13:58 Raveille: mhm

Keysounds are nice when you do them well, and that's pretty hard.

In any case, good luck with this going forward. :)
Topic Starter
Raveille
The Rumor Come Out: Does Raveille is Find 2nd BN?



Does Raveille is Find 2nd BN is the most discussed in osu!mania in the few weeks ago. Even it has happened in 2017, but some of the public still curious about what is exactly happening and to be the reason there is a rumor comes out about his 2nd BN. At that time he became the massive social networking rumor. The public, especially his fans are shocked. He just came out with his bad rumor which is spread massively. This time is not about his mapping career, but his bad rumor. The rumor is out of standardize of hoax, according the last reported this mapper revealed himself as trash mapper. Do you still believe or not, this rumor is really much talked by people even in a person of his fans.

Thanks Ash <3
Litharrale

Raveille wrote:

The Rumor Come Out: Does Raveille is Find 2nd BN?


Yes, Raveille does find 2nd BN

Ok so I might be insane here but I'm 80% sure that most of these red lines aren't needed. A million resnaps is a pretty big red flag that somethings wrong as well as decimal BPM with 4 sig figures. I'm not sure about the BPM changes later on in the song but the resnaps definitely feel unneeded. I deleted all the red lines except the second and it works fine and plays fine even minutes later it's still in sync https://puu.sh/ywTUv/034e28d223.mp4

The red lines at the end seem wrong too. The BPM definitely changes but I find it hard to believe that these are the correct figures



Especially in a mastered song like this.

I'm willing to rescind this pop pretty quick if I'm proven wrong


also pls dont say "ranked std set!" cause this is definitely not the first time a ranked STD set has overkilled the timing


Asherz007

Litharrale wrote:

Ok so I might be insane here but I'm 80% sure that most of these red lines aren't needed. A million resnaps is a pretty big red flag that somethings wrong as well as decimal BPM with 4 sig figures. I'm not sure about the BPM changes later on in the song but the resnaps definitely feel unneeded. I deleted all the red lines except the second and it works fine and plays fine even minutes later it's still in sync
As far as I know, the minor offset changes were to be as accurate as possible, as though it may be in sync overall, the specifics would be slightly late or early which would average out. I was fine was the small resets, so I didn't challenge it. (In reality, I always time my own maps and this is kinda why lol)

Litharrale wrote:

The red lines at the end seem wrong too. The BPM definitely changes but I find it hard to believe that these are the correct figures



Especially in a mastered song like this.
With regards to these red lines, they were implemented in such a way so that each line landed on a piano note (and there's a slight difference here compared to the standard set which wasn't entirely accurate here), set with such a bpm such that the next red line lands on the red line... uh, the 1/2. The only exception was the 106.2 bpm timing point which was used for the roll which is on the 1/12 snap. Again, I thought this was fine.

Hey, better this gets discussed now rather than later when it might be too late.
Topic Starter
Raveille
I decided to play around with the red lines, and the introduction part does seem fine without the many red lines there, so I scrapped most of it as long as it sounded in time and that everything would play right with the keysounds (cause wrongly snapped keysounds will succ)

the ending part though, i decided to cut down half of the red lines but leave some of them there since it is a slowing portion and will not be entirely snapped to whole number bpms, i did test around a bit and i tried to make it as accurate as possible

made most of the bpm red lines (or i think all) whole numbers.

owo
AncuL
might as well give some suggestions on the outro here because the lack of PR makes me disturbed knowing that piano is the main focus of the part. don't ask for the reason because you most likely know why based on my complain. it's also only suggestions so if you have a better idea about how to do it just do what you want. but please. please.. change it

1234
Hopes and Wishes
04:57:172 (297172|1,297361|2,297537|3) - move to 1 2 3
04:57:890 (297890|2,298122|3) - move to 4 3
04:58:333 (298333|2,298462|1) - move to 2 3
04:58:725 (298725|0,298858|1) - move to 2 1
04:59:247 (299247|1,299635|0) - move to 1 2
04:59:823 (299823|1,300012|2,300201|3) - move to 1 2 3
05:00:389 (300389|0,300578|1) - move to 2 1
05:00:767 (300767|2,300955|3,301148|2) - move to 2 3 4
05:01:728 (301728|2,301922|3) - move to 4 3
05:02:115 (302115|2,302309|0,302526|1) - move to 1 2 3
05:04:017 (304017|0,304017|3) - move to 2 3
05:06:513 - i suggest something like this https://i.imgur.com/gDiY2ll.png

also,
00:01:470 (1470|2) - move to 1
00:02:220 (2220|2,2595|3) - move to 4 3
these two suggestions are based on assumption that you're mapping the vocals

the rest is pretty clean. good luck! owo
Topic Starter
Raveille

AncuL wrote:

might as well give some suggestions on the outro here because the lack of PR makes me disturbed knowing that piano is the main focus of the part. don't ask for the reason because you most likely know why based on my complain. it's also only suggestions so if you have a better idea about how to do it just do what you want. but please. please.. change it

1234
Hopes and Wishes
04:57:172 (297172|1,297361|2,297537|3) - move to 1 2 3
04:57:890 (297890|2,298122|3) - move to 4 3
04:58:333 (298333|2,298462|1) - move to 2 3
04:58:725 (298725|0,298858|1) - move to 2 1
04:59:247 (299247|1,299635|0) - move to 1 2
04:59:823 (299823|1,300012|2,300201|3) - move to 1 2 3
05:00:389 (300389|0,300578|1) - move to 2 1
05:00:767 (300767|2,300955|3,301148|2) - move to 2 3 4
05:01:728 (301728|2,301922|3) - move to 4 3
05:02:115 (302115|2,302309|0,302526|1) - move to 1 2 3
05:04:017 (304017|0,304017|3) - move to 2 3
05:06:513 - i suggest something like this https://i.imgur.com/gDiY2ll.png

also,
00:01:470 (1470|2) - move to 1
00:02:220 (2220|2,2595|3) - move to 4 3
these two suggestions are based on assumption that you're mapping the vocals

the rest is pretty clean. good luck! owo
All changed except 05:06:513 - i suggest something like this https://i.imgur.com/gDiY2ll.png where I decided to edit a bit around

owo)b
Rivals_7
sooooooooo is the timing resolved or not :blobsweats:

so there's a couple (dozens?)of this SB hitsound arent aligned in where they supposed to

I suppose they were for graces but as far as i heard it there's only a few grace, but you map it instead of SB hitsounding it so.....................
another ex: 01:07:011 (67011|2) -

and the hitsounding on this seems uuh....... unfinished? .... ok not really but majority of the percussion are left being not hitsounded. for example a thing at - 01:57:730 (117730|0,117730|1,117823|3,117823|2,118011|2) - that have drumroll but there's no actual hitsound being applied here despite you have it. probably you are too focused on piano which is ok that seem to be the main thing here but its just a waste to left this not hitsounded

and.....

ash why

00:25:093 - timing points with 2ms difference :thonk:

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00:02:548 - grace potential

00:17:595 (17595|0) - 00:22:095 (22095|1) - extend for vocal. no wasting for marathon ey?

00:54:167 - i would suggest jacking for the climatic purpose tbh http://puu.sh/yToxF/5f8ab9d9ff.jpg

01:37:011 (97011|1,97105|2) - flipping this would give left hand some room to rest after the same trill also exist shortly before - 01:36:261 (96261|0,96355|1,96448|0,96542|1) -

01:39:917 (99917|0,100105|1) - didnt really see the purpose of the jacking on 1 so moving it to right 1x would actually cool for movement

02:02:605 (122605|3,122698|2,122792|1,122886|0,123355|3,123448|2,123542|1,123636|0) - not sure about you but transitioning between 1/4 and 1/8 in the same direction could probably throw players out of they comfortness since they actually dont have any "point" where to change their speed and when they should change it back. thus a lot of 200 probably occurs (quit w). so it might be more manageable if the last 2 notes of each roll i highlighted is flipped.

03:03:917 (183917|0) - isnt this supposed to be earlier?

thats probably it but the lack of percussion hs is what i concern pmuch
Topic Starter
Raveille

Rivals_7 wrote:

sooooooooo is the timing resolved or not :blobsweats: I have no clue but I can only assume these timings are right and should be right. You can check them if you want to.

so there's a couple (dozens?)of this SB hitsound arent aligned in where they supposed to

I suppose they were for graces but as far as i heard it there's only a few grace, but you map it instead of SB hitsounding it so.....................
another ex: 01:07:011 (67011|2) - im a retard sorry, fixed them

and the hitsounding on this seems uuh....... unfinished? .... ok not really but majority of the percussion are left being not hitsounded. for example a thing at - 01:57:730 (117730|0,117730|1,117823|3,117823|2,118011|2) - that have drumroll but there's no actual hitsound being applied here despite you have it. probably you are too focused on piano which is ok that seem to be the main thing here but its just a waste to left this not hitsounded considered some but honestly this map is all about the piano... i will add more percussion though

and.....

ash why

00:25:093 - timing points with 2ms difference :thonk: it can be important you know... unless its against the rules i wanna stick to this since its as accurate as it can be unless this is inaccurate and if thats the case then uh ........ >.>

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00:02:548 - grace potential

00:17:595 (17595|0) - 00:22:095 (22095|1) - extend for vocal. no wasting for marathon ey?

00:54:167 - i would suggest jacking for the climatic purpose tbh http://puu.sh/yToxF/5f8ab9d9ff.jpg

01:37:011 (97011|1,97105|2) - flipping this would give left hand some room to rest after the same trill also exist shortly before - 01:36:261 (96261|0,96355|1,96448|0,96542|1) -

01:39:917 (99917|0,100105|1) - didnt really see the purpose of the jacking on 1 so moving it to right 1x would actually cool for movement

02:02:605 (122605|3,122698|2,122792|1,122886|0,123355|3,123448|2,123542|1,123636|0) - not sure about you but transitioning between 1/4 and 1/8 in the same direction could probably throw players out of they comfortness since they actually dont have any "point" where to change their speed and when they should change it back. thus a lot of 200 probably occurs (quit w). so it might be more manageable if the last 2 notes of each roll i highlighted is flipped.

03:03:917 (183917|0) - isnt this supposed to be earlier? slowed to 25% but this seems like the correct spot of the piano note...

thats probably it but the lack of percussion hs is what i concern pmuch
added in a bit more percussion hitsounds, hopefully its enough but keep in mind this song is mostly in the piano aspect (keysound) and not the percussion aspect (hitsound) so i wanna drive that piano mindset more. :P

edit: the suggestions i didn't reply = accept
Rivals_7
LR_Drum Finish cutoff sounds quite bad from the start so here's a replacement which i think its "better" http://puu.sh/z4hgQ/528fd76424.wav (just rename it and replace it. )

00:20:220 - this feels kinda left out. and since there's a piano HS, why not adding a note?

02:10:105 - 02:16:105 - 04:02:605 - 04:07:105 - 04:08:605 (248605|3,248605|0) - 04:17:605 (257605|0,257605|3) - 04:19:105 (259105|0,259105|1,259105|3) - 04:25:105 (265105|2,265105|1,265105|3) - 04:26:605 (266605|0) - 04:27:167 (267167|3) - 04:28:105 (268105|2) - 04:40:105 (280105|3) - 04:40:667 (280667|2) - 04:44:605 (284605|2) - 04:46:480 (286480|1) - potential crash HS

not really sure are you accidentaly flipped the crash placement between these - 02:27:167 (147167|0,147167|3,147167|2,147542|1,147542|3,147542|2) - i just found that odd. could refer to - 04:19:667 (259667|0,259667|3,259667|1,260042|0,260042|3) -
Topic Starter
Raveille

Rivals_7 wrote:

LR_Drum Finish cutoff sounds quite bad from the start so here's a replacement which i think its "better" http://puu.sh/z4hgQ/528fd76424.wav (just rename it and replace it. )

00:20:220 - this feels kinda left out. and since there's a piano HS, why not adding a note?

02:10:105 - 02:16:105 - 04:02:605 - 04:07:105 - 04:08:605 (248605|3,248605|0) - 04:17:605 (257605|0,257605|3) - 04:19:105 (259105|0,259105|1,259105|3) - 04:25:105 (265105|2,265105|1,265105|3) - 04:26:605 (266605|0) - 04:27:167 (267167|3) - 04:28:105 (268105|2) - 04:40:105 (280105|3) - 04:40:667 (280667|2) - 04:44:605 (284605|2) - 04:46:480 (286480|1) - potential crash HS

not really sure are you accidentaly flipped the crash placement between these - 02:27:167 (147167|0,147167|3,147167|2,147542|1,147542|3,147542|2) - i just found that odd. could refer to - 04:19:667 (259667|0,259667|3,259667|1,260042|0,260042|3) -
everything accepted except for 04:25:105 (265105|2,265105|1,265105|3) - because it sounds weird and out of place for a crash.

owo)b
Asherz007

Rivals_7 wrote:


ash why
e x c u s e m e





Anyways here's the hat light again just in case https://puu.sh/z530x.wav

notepad sucks go download notepad++
Topic Starter
Raveille

Asherz007 wrote:

Rivals_7 wrote:


ash why
e x c u s e m e





Anyways here's the hat light again just in case https://puu.sh/z530x.wav

notepad sucks go download notepad++
boom shakalaka :idea:
Rivals_7
boom
fix some crashes
Topic Starter
Raveille
::ok_woman::ok_woman::ok_woman::ok_woman::ok_woman::ok_woman::ok_woman::ok_woman::ok_woman::ok_woman:
Asherz007
rip 6k

irc aux hitsounds et metadata
2018-01-27 03:10 Asherz007: can I nuke you yet
2018-01-27 03:10 Raveille: D:
2018-01-27 03:10 Asherz007: jkjk
2018-01-27 03:10 Raveille: dont nuke me daddy ><
2018-01-27 03:10 Raveille: if you mean going through the map now sure
2018-01-27 03:10 Asherz007: I mean there shouldn't be much, if anything
2018-01-27 03:10 Asherz007: gonna redl just in case
2018-01-27 03:11 Raveille: oki
2018-01-27 03:11 Asherz007: you have a .osb :thinking:
2018-01-27 03:12 Raveille: storyboard?
2018-01-27 03:12 Asherz007: file
2018-01-27 03:12 Raveille: o
2018-01-27 03:12 Asherz007: I mean fine, but with only one diff it's a little weird
2018-01-27 03:12 Raveille: :thonk:
2018-01-27 03:13 Raveille: its not rule breaking or making the file size big right
2018-01-27 03:13 Asherz007: not really, though dunno whether anything is different while being loaded while playing or smth
2018-01-27 03:14 Raveille: hmmm
2018-01-27 03:15 Asherz007: you could paste them in the .osu, delete the .osb, then just save the .osu again and it'll automatically order everything chronologically for you
2018-01-27 03:15 Asherz007: at least that's what's happened to me in the past
2018-01-27 03:15 Raveille: hmmm
2018-01-27 03:15 Raveille: hold on
2018-01-27 03:17 Raveille: so now
2018-01-27 03:17 Raveille: my .osu has 2 [Events]
2018-01-27 03:17 Raveille: thats fine right?
2018-01-27 03:17 Raveille: if its fine ima update it
2018-01-27 03:17 Asherz007: wait
2018-01-27 03:18 Asherz007: there's an unused hitsound
2018-01-27 03:18 Raveille: hm?
2018-01-27 03:18 Asherz007: B3S_s.wav isn't used
2018-01-27 03:18 Raveille: ok deleted
2018-01-27 03:19 Asherz007: didn't spot before because D#3S_Eb3S_s.wav matched it lul
2018-01-27 03:19 Raveille: oh
2018-01-27 03:19 Raveille: :thank:
2018-01-27 03:20 Raveille: oh uh another thing
2018-01-27 03:21 Raveille: 01:26:230 - idk why theres a sudden loud hitsound here LOl
2018-01-27 03:21 Raveille: dont think it appears for you does it?
2018-01-27 03:21 Asherz007: oh it was in the .osb probably
2018-01-27 03:21 Raveille: yea
2018-01-27 03:21 Raveille: hmm
2018-01-27 03:21 Asherz007: likely why I wasn't seeing it earlier
2018-01-27 03:22 Raveille: removed it from sb tho since
2018-01-27 03:22 Asherz007: yeah that makes sense
2018-01-27 03:22 Raveille: the other sounds didnt have the drumhit
2018-01-27 03:22 Raveille: mm
2018-01-27 03:22 Asherz007: :thinking:
2018-01-27 03:23 Asherz007: hitsound troubles lul
2018-01-27 03:23 Raveille: 01:58:480 - and
2018-01-27 03:23 Raveille: 01:59:980 -
2018-01-27 03:23 Raveille: have drum hits too
2018-01-27 03:23 Raveille: shd i remove dem
2018-01-27 03:23 Raveille: since those are the only 2 drum hits in this prechorus section
2018-01-27 03:23 Asherz007: If it's not consistent, then you probs should
2018-01-27 03:24 Raveille: aight
2018-01-27 03:24 Raveille: 02:41:573 (161573|2) - this note doesnt have a hitsound
2018-01-27 03:24 Raveille: shd i apply smth to it
2018-01-27 03:25 Asherz007: 02:43:073 (163073|0) - I mean this one doesn't either
2018-01-27 03:25 Asherz007: so uh I think you should be good
2018-01-27 03:25 Raveille: o hm
2018-01-27 03:25 Raveille: oki
2018-01-27 03:27 Raveille: ok thats all the hitsound problems
2018-01-27 03:27 Raveille: can i update it or did you find smth?
2018-01-27 03:27 Asherz007: man, whoever made this song should be fired for having such randomly inconsistent timing issues
2018-01-27 03:27 Raveille: LMAAO
2018-01-27 03:28 Raveille: dont diss this song >:C
2018-01-27 03:28 Raveille: i nearly cried listening to it the first time qwq
2018-01-27 03:28 Raveille: tbf this song is never meant to be used for rhythm game purposes
2018-01-27 03:28 Asherz007: are all the snares meant to be at 70% vol
2018-01-27 03:28 Raveille: mhm
2018-01-27 03:28 Raveille: is it too loud?
2018-01-27 03:28 Asherz007: 01:23:982 - like, das loud af
2018-01-27 03:29 Raveille: o hmm
2018-01-27 03:29 Raveille: i thought it was like
2018-01-27 03:29 Raveille: you know
2018-01-27 03:29 Raveille: a short solo drum section
2018-01-27 03:29 Raveille: before the piano takes over
2018-01-27 03:29 Raveille: so the drummer hits the snare loudly then proceeds to the solo section
2018-01-27 03:29 Raveille: then piano takes over
2018-01-27 03:30 Asherz007: dunno
2018-01-27 03:30 Asherz007: feels like 70 is slightly too much
2018-01-27 03:30 Raveille: o hm
2018-01-27 03:30 Raveille: what vol will be best
2018-01-27 03:30 Asherz007: probs something like 50-55
2018-01-27 03:30 Raveille: hmmm
2018-01-27 03:30 Raveille: for all sanres?
2018-01-27 03:31 Asherz007: gotta find the others lul
2018-01-27 03:31 Raveille: o boi
2018-01-27 03:31 Raveille: its drum hit echo btw
2018-01-27 03:31 Raveille: the name of the wav
2018-01-27 03:32 Asherz007: bleh, might be too much hassle
2018-01-27 03:32 Raveille: ill just reduce that one to 50 then?
2018-01-27 03:32 Asherz007: it's probs fine the way it was, just me being pendantic
2018-01-27 03:32 Asherz007: up to you
2018-01-27 03:32 Raveille: o is it
2018-01-27 03:32 Raveille: hmm
2018-01-27 03:33 Asherz007: I blame prot
2018-01-27 03:33 Raveille: ah its fine ill set it to 50
2018-01-27 03:33 Raveille: LOL
2018-01-27 03:34 Asherz007: 02:04:011 (124011|0,124105|0) - 10/10 would nuke again
2018-01-27 03:34 Asherz007: you do this like once lol
2018-01-27 03:34 Raveille: wow :C
2018-01-27 03:35 Asherz007: uwu
2018-01-27 03:35 Raveille: is it rly a huge issue tho if it appears once
2018-01-27 03:35 Asherz007: not really
2018-01-27 03:35 Raveille: uwu
2018-01-27 03:35 Asherz007: just looks weird consistency wise or smth
2018-01-27 03:36 Asherz007: 02:51:730 (171730|2,171730|3,171730|1) - also I don't get this
2018-01-27 03:36 Raveille: it is the first build up to the chorus
2018-01-27 03:36 Raveille: don't get the triple?
2018-01-27 03:36 Asherz007: looks like a triple for kick or smth
2018-01-27 03:36 Asherz007: 02:52:105 - shouldn't the triple be here
2018-01-27 03:37 Raveille: oh ya hmm
2018-01-27 03:37 Raveille: 02:51:730 (171730|1) - moved this note
2018-01-27 03:37 Raveille: 02:52:105 - to here
2018-01-27 03:37 Raveille: 02:52:292 (172292|0) - this
2018-01-27 03:37 Raveille: to col 2
2018-01-27 03:38 Asherz007: col 2?
2018-01-27 03:38 Asherz007: ss plis
2018-01-27 03:39 Raveille: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10109226
2018-01-27 03:39 Asherz007: btw aren't soft-hitclap and LR_Drum Hit Echo the same hitsound?
2018-01-27 03:39 Asherz007: hm
2018-01-27 03:39 Raveille: hm?
2018-01-27 03:40 Raveille: its softer i guess XDD
2018-01-27 03:40 Asherz007: I guess that pattern is fine
2018-01-27 03:40 Raveille: mm
2018-01-27 03:41 Asherz007: wouldn't recommend doing the hitsounds like that in the future lol but w/e
2018-01-27 03:41 Raveille: yea :x
2018-01-27 03:42 Asherz007: 03:11:042 (191042|0) - no double?
2018-01-27 03:42 Raveille: o ye
2018-01-27 03:42 Raveille: added
2018-01-27 03:42 Asherz007: 03:11:980 (191980|2) - snare but only single :thinking:
2018-01-27 03:43 Raveille: :sadthonk:
2018-01-27 03:43 Raveille: added
2018-01-27 03:43 Asherz007: how many :thonk:
2018-01-27 03:44 Raveille: :thonkingthonk:
2018-01-27 03:46 Asherz007: rest looks fine
2018-01-27 03:46 Raveille: :okthonk:
2018-01-27 03:48 Asherz007: lul
2018-01-27 03:48 Raveille: :lolithon-
2018-01-27 03:48 Raveille: ACTION runs from police
2018-01-27 03:48 Asherz007: so update whenever and then I'd better check the .osu just in case something weird's happened
2018-01-27 03:48 Raveille: alrihhy
2018-01-27 03:48 Raveille: alright
2018-01-27 03:50 Raveille: oh noes
2018-01-27 03:50 Asherz007: what
2018-01-27 03:50 Raveille: its stuck at Preparing changes... 11.0%
2018-01-27 03:50 Asherz007: o
2018-01-27 03:50 Asherz007: restart
2018-01-27 03:50 Raveille: :MEGATHONK:
2018-01-27 03:50 Asherz007: or spam update
2018-01-27 03:51 Raveille: ding dong done
2018-01-27 03:51 Raveille: OWO
2018-01-27 03:51 Asherz007: asdf
2018-01-27 03:51 Raveille: ghjkl
2018-01-27 03:53 Asherz007: so what were you saying about these events anyway
2018-01-27 03:53 Raveille: what events owo?
2018-01-27 03:53 Asherz007: You said something about having 2 [Events] earlier
2018-01-27 03:54 Raveille: o
2018-01-27 03:54 Raveille: nvm about them
2018-01-27 03:54 Raveille: they fused together now
2018-01-27 03:54 Raveille: LOL
2018-01-27 03:54 Asherz007: thought so
2018-01-27 03:54 Raveille: mm
2018-01-27 04:00 Asherz007: what am I checking again
2018-01-27 04:00 Raveille: hm?
2018-01-27 04:00 Raveille: check the .osu
2018-01-27 04:00 Raveille: in case something weird happened
2018-01-27 04:00 Raveille: and uh
2018-01-27 04:00 Raveille: i guess hitsounds?
2018-01-27 04:01 Asherz007: so long uwu
2018-01-27 04:01 Raveille: uwu
2018-01-27 04:01 Asherz007: I think it's all fine
2018-01-27 04:01 Asherz007: I hope
2018-01-27 04:02 Raveille: o-o
2018-01-27 04:03 Asherz007: metadata n stuff fine I guess?
2018-01-27 04:03 Raveille: yup
2018-01-27 04:03 Asherz007: o
2018-01-27 04:03 Raveille: metadata is finwe
2018-01-27 04:03 Asherz007: aras is still in the tags lol
2018-01-27 04:03 Raveille: oh shit LMAO
2018-01-27 04:03 Asherz007: nice one
2018-01-27 04:03 Raveille: ok removed
2018-01-27 04:03 Raveille: *wew*
2018-01-27 04:04 Asherz007: idk I don't have anything else to check
2018-01-27 04:04 Raveille: do i update now?
2018-01-27 04:04 Asherz007: seems like it
2018-01-27 04:04 Asherz007: hs are hopefully all good
2018-01-27 04:04 Raveille: mhm
2018-01-27 04:04 Asherz007: cus I don't think I can spot the issue if there is one
2018-01-27 04:05 Raveille: updating
2018-01-27 04:05 Raveille: o shit
2018-01-27 04:05 Asherz007: what
2018-01-27 04:05 Raveille: i accidentally replaced the description to
2018-01-27 04:05 Raveille: "updating"
2018-01-27 04:05 Raveille: LOL
2018-01-27 04:05 Asherz007: lmfao
2018-01-27 04:05 Raveille: its all good
2018-01-27 04:05 Raveille: ffffffff stuck at 11% again
2018-01-27 04:05 Raveille: reeeeeeeeeee
2018-01-27 04:05 Asherz007: lul
2018-01-27 04:06 Raveille: ok its updating again woo
2018-01-27 04:06 Raveille: updated
2018-01-27 04:06 Asherz007: so uh
2018-01-27 04:07 Asherz007: what kinda icon you want :^)
2018-01-27 04:07 Raveille: o
2018-01-27 04:07 Asherz007: nuke? :^^^^^^^)
2018-01-27 04:07 Raveille: i want a icon that will make my heart go doki doki
2018-01-27 04:07 Raveille: NOT IN TAHHT WAUY
2018-01-27 04:07 Raveille: >C;l,dskmj
2018-01-27 04:07 Asherz007: o3o
2018-01-27 04:07 Raveille: o_o
2018-01-27 04:07 Asherz007: all set?
2018-01-27 04:07 Raveille: mmm
2018-01-27 04:08 Asherz007: do I nuke you for having the word "the" in the tags twice xdddddddddddd
2018-01-27 04:08 Raveille: wut
2018-01-27 04:08 Asherz007: o
2018-01-27 04:08 Asherz007: 3 times
2018-01-27 04:09 Raveille: OH LOL
2018-01-27 04:09 Raveille: must i remove them D:
2018-01-27 04:09 Raveille: it will be like
2018-01-27 04:09 Raveille: kyoukai no kanata movie sky i wanted to meet
2018-01-27 04:09 Asherz007: beats me tbh but I guess it would help
2018-01-27 04:09 Raveille: alright i guess
2018-01-27 04:09 Asherz007: tbh people searching the title can still search like that
2018-01-27 04:10 Raveille: true
2018-01-27 04:10 Asherz007: just make sure the is there once lol
2018-01-27 04:10 Raveille: ok updatud
2018-01-27 04:12 Asherz007: ok
2018-01-27 04:12 Asherz007: so
2018-01-27 04:12 Asherz007: nuke?
2018-01-27 04:12 Raveille: >:C
2018-01-27 04:12 Raveille: no nuk
2018-01-27 04:12 Asherz007: fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine
2018-01-27 04:12 Raveille: i know you are eager to nuke smth but
2018-01-27 04:12 Raveille: not me plz qwq

I'll save the nuking for another time then, I guess.
Topic Starter
Raveille
use nuke on someone else plz thx
riunosk

Raveille wrote:

use nuke on someone else plz thx
nook
Maxus
Hello, congrats for the qualify.
but there's a problem about the timing at the end.

05:06:654 - 05:11:395 - why there isn't any additional red lines for the piano here? It makes the ending downbeat doesn't synchronize with the timing BPM here, and it's kinda awkward that all the other piano sounds have been timed properly except the part that i mentioned earlier.
Protastic101
04:56:244 (296244|0) - P sure this is a ghost note lul, there's only the vocal but no piano.
04:59:823 (299823|0) - ^

05:06:560 (306560|2,306654|1) - Concerning what Maxus said, I don't think you need a new red line for these notes but their snap is off. The difference between using a red line and just snapping it to the screenshot here is pretty negligible https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10154119

Last thing regarding hitsounds actually, your hitnormal is at too low of a volume to be considered audible. Additionally, in the kiai sections where there are only keysounds, it's difficult to hear them over the music, but they're still present. This would be ok if it were not for the fact that the hitnormal cannot be heard and there are little to no actual percussion based hitsounding which has been done in previous sections such as 00:43:105 - , so I would highly suggest you add those to provide some sort of feed back to the player, but it's not required so long as the hitnormal's volume is fixed.

Dqed for now.
Topic Starter
Raveille

Protastic101 wrote:

04:56:244 (296244|0) - P sure this is a ghost note lul, there's only the vocal but no piano.
04:59:823 (299823|0) - ^

05:06:560 (306560|2,306654|1) - Concerning what Maxus said, I don't think you need a new red line for these notes but their snap is off. The difference between using a red line and just snapping it to the screenshot here is pretty negligible https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10154119

Last thing regarding hitsounds actually, your hitnormal is at too low of a volume to be considered audible. Additionally, in the kiai sections where there are only keysounds, it's difficult to hear them over the music, but they're still present. This would be ok if it were not for the fact that the hitnormal cannot be heard and there are little to no actual percussion based hitsounding which has been done in previous sections such as 00:43:105 - , so I would highly suggest you add those to provide some sort of feed back to the player, but it's not required so long as the hitnormal's volume is fixed.

Dqed for now.
neato burrito all done and checked xd
Maxus
So, i made the new red line for the ending piano, it should be like:



Or you can directly copy paste it here:
Timing code
1095,375,4,2,1,50,1,0
25093,375,4,2,1,50,1,0
43105,375,4,2,1,50,1,0
82090,375,4,2,1,50,1,0
83795,375,4,2,1,15,1,0
85105,375,4,2,1,50,1,0
124105,-100,4,2,1,75,0,1
148105,-100,4,2,1,50,0,0
156354,375,4,2,1,50,1,0
156611,375,4,2,1,50,1,0
156704,375,4,2,1,50,1,0
156775,375,4,2,1,50,1,0
158605,375,4,2,1,50,1,0
236605,-100,4,2,1,75,0,1
260605,-100,4,2,1,50,0,0
295147,365.853658536585,4,2,1,50,1,0
295147,-103.092783505155,4,2,1,50,0,0
296606,377.358490566038,4,2,1,50,1,0
296606,-99.009900990099,4,2,1,50,0,0
297361,352.941176470588,4,2,1,50,1,0
297361,-106.382978723404,4,2,1,50,0,0
298122,422.535211267606,4,2,1,50,1,0
298122,-85.4700854700855,4,2,1,50,0,0
298462,526.315789473684,4,2,1,50,1,0
298462,-76.9230769230769,4,2,1,50,0,0
298858,389.61038961039,4,2,1,50,1,0
298858,-96.1538461538461,4,2,1,50,0,0
299635,377.358490566038,4,2,1,50,1,0
299635,-99.009900990099,4,2,1,50,0,0
301148,387.096774193548,4,2,1,50,1,0
301148,-97.0873786407767,4,2,1,50,0,0
302309,434.782608695652,4,2,1,50,1,0
302309,-80,4,2,1,50,0,0
302787,571.428571428571,4,2,1,50,1,0
302787,-66.6666666666667,4,2,1,50,0,0
303339,645.161290322581,4,2,1,50,1,0
303339,-59.5238095238095,4,2,1,50,0,0
304017,857.142857142857,4,2,1,50,1,0
304017,-46.2962962962963,4,2,1,50,0,0
304938,1384.0830449827,4,2,1,50,1,0
304938,-33.3333333333333,4,2,1,50,0,0
306513,566.037735849057,4,2,1,50,1,0
306513,-86.9565217391304,4,2,1,50,0,0
306619,495.867768595041,4,2,1,50,1,0
307114,468.75,4,2,1,50,1,0
307348,405.405405405405,4,2,1,50,1,0
307550,441.176470588235,4,2,1,50,1,0
307770,384.615384615385,4,2,1,50,1,0
307962,500,4,2,1,50,1,0
308212,571.428571428571,4,2,1,50,1,0
308497,612.244897959184,4,2,1,50,1,0
308803,882.352941176471,4,2,1,50,1,0
309244,1333.33333333333,4,2,1,50,1,0
311394,1500,4,2,1,50,1,0
311394,-66.6666666666667,4,2,1,50,0,0

Don't forget to resnap couple notes and normalize the red line there.
Good luck!
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