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box=easy


00:30:242 (3,2) i know you are trying to keep distance spacing even, but theres gotta be something you can do about this blanketing

01:52:019 (3) move it out just a little more to keep it even with 1? i know its breaking DS but its a couple pixels i dont think players will have that hard a time with it

/box

box=insane


00:02:834 (2,1) 1 doesnt look like it lines up right with 2, move it to the right a little?

00:39:131 (1) why red anchor? i think you can make it nicer with just one regular anchor

01:31:575 (1,2,3,4) the triplet (number 4) is a lot farther away from the slider than the previous ones, move it closer to keep consistency

/box


other than that...


seriously though sorry for a short mod, this mapset is basically perfect (i didnt check the other insane but its prob good).
feel free to decline your side of the m4m if this mod wasnt enough (if you dont, my map is ready to be modded)

good luck ranking!
Topic Starter
walter85

fufu- wrote:

m4m mod

Easy


00:30:242 (3,2) i know you are trying to keep distance spacing even, but theres gotta be something you can do about this blanketing nah don't want to blanket it

01:52:019 (3) move it out just a little more to keep it even with 1? i know its breaking DS but its a couple pixels i dont think players will have that hard a time with it I thought i copypasted it lol, fixed

Insane


00:02:834 (2,1) 1 doesnt look like it lines up right with 2, move it to the right a little? k

00:39:131 (1) why red anchor? i think you can make it nicer with just one regular anchor nah i like it this way

01:31:575 (1,2,3,4) the triplet (number 4) is a lot farther away from the slider than the previous ones, move it closer to keep consistency done


other than that...


seriously though sorry for a short mod, this mapset is basically perfect (i didnt check the other insane but its prob good).
feel free to decline your side of the m4m if this mod wasnt enough (if you dont, my map is ready to be modded)
don't worry i'll mod anyway, but not today, maybe tomorrow

good luck ranking! Thank you!
YukiZura-
hi :) .. m4m mod

Insane

00:02:686 (1,2) - swap NC
00:03:131 (2) - remove nc
00:10:242 (1) - remove nc?
00:17:649 (2,3) - maybe you should blanket this
00:28:019 - remove nc
00:39:131 (1) - lol this slider is funny .. just curve it like normal
00:43:575 (3,3) - blanket this
00:56:464 (1) - remove nc
01:39:131 - remove nc
01:53:797 - distance this more further ... (just suggestion)

Hard

01:05:353 (1) - i think this slider is a bit late with the sound ..? or it just me :?
01:12:464 (1) - this one also lol
01:17:352 (1,2) - swap nc
01:24:464 (1,2) - ^
01:28:908 (1) - remove nc .. too much nc lol
01:53:797 (1) - maybe distance this one a bit :o .. dont distance it too far just little

that all hope some of this help you :)
Topic Starter
walter85

YukiZura- wrote:

hi :) .. m4m mod

Insane

00:02:686 (1,2) - swap NC no
00:03:131 (2) - remove nc ^
00:10:242 (1) - remove nc? ^
00:17:649 (2,3) - maybe you should blanket this doesn't make a difference, it's unnoticeable
00:28:019 - remove nc no
00:39:131 (1) - lol this slider is funny .. just curve it like normal ^
00:43:575 (3,3) - blanket this again, unnoticeable
00:56:464 (1) - remove nc no
01:39:131 - remove nc ^
01:53:797 - distance this more further ... (just suggestion) done

Hard

01:05:353 (1) - i think this slider is a bit late with the sound ..? or it just me :?just you
01:12:464 (1) - this one also lol ^
01:17:352 (1,2) - swap nc ^
01:24:464 (1,2) - ^ ^
01:28:908 (1) - remove nc .. too much nc lol did you even see the colorhaxing
01:53:797 (1) - maybe distance this one a bit :o .. dont distance it too far just little it's fine like this

that all hope some of this help you :)Thanks
Mir
11:36 walter85: hi :)
11:36 Mir: hi (:
11:37 walter85: do you have time for a quick check? not mod
11:44 Mir: i guess so
11:45 *walter85 is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1330566 F-777 - Deadlocked]
11:45 walter85: thank you!
11:46 *Mir is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1330566 F-777 - Deadlocked [Insane]]
11:47 Mir: 00:19:575 (1,2,1,2,1) - these could all be circles cuz the sound gets more intense
11:47 Mir: happens pretty much every time you map this sound it doesn't stand out too much
11:48 Mir: 00:20:464 (1) - not this one sorry
11:48 walter85: hmm
11:49 walter85: i'll do something about it
11:49 Mir: 00:24:464 (1,2) - maybe 1/6 sliders here?
11:49 Mir: cuz noticeably more intense sound too
11:49 Mir: and it's mapped the same as the other sounds
11:50 Mir: just a small sv increase doesn't show it off to its full potential imo
11:51 walter85: true
11:53 walter85: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8482112 something like this?]
11:53 Mir: yeah that works
11:53 Mir: for all instances of that ofc
11:54 walter85: yeah
11:54 Mir: well moving on: 01:05:205 (1,2,3,4) - 01:06:982 (1,2,3,4) - are mapped the same way almost but the former is higher intensity
11:54 Mir: again just a spacing increase doesn't really show it off :x
11:55 Mir: well i may be lying, a spacing increase that small doesn't show it off
11:56 walter85: hmm, i don't know i think i'll leave it as it is, it happens only one time anyway, maybe i'll reduce spacing more
11:57 Mir: that's fine, i just think it could use more contrast
11:57 walter85: yeah, right now it's 2.0x and 1.5x
11:57 Mir: 01:07:575 (1,2,3) - this 1 looks really weird in context
11:58 Mir: mmm
11:58 Mir: visual spacing between 2,1 and 3,1 is a bit off
11:58 walter85: what do you mean by weird?
11:58 Mir: might be why
11:58 walter85: oh, oops :P
11:58 Mir: yeah thats why
11:58 Mir: xD
11:59 Mir: 01:09:353 (1,2,3) - a little here too
11:59 Mir: 01:10:538 (1,3) - what do you think about making this 1/6 sliders?
11:59 Mir: cuz the sounds feel very rushed imo
12:01 walter85: hmm i don't really like 1/6 sliders there
12:01 Mir: that's fine
12:01 walter85: btw [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8482141 is this better]?
12:01 Mir: since the part after basically repeats itself i don't really have to look into that i think
12:01 Mir: yeah that's better
12:01 walter85: the part after has some additional sounds
12:02 Mir: does it o.O
12:02 walter85: yeah, some 1/2 somewhere
12:02 walter85: with weird "pyoom" sounds idk how to describe xD
12:03 Mir: oh yeah i saw those already xD
12:03 Mir: those are fine i meant like
12:03 Mir: 01:25:353 -
12:03 walter85: oh, didn't understand
12:03 walter85: lol sorry :P
12:03 Mir: oh come to think of it maybe an sv decrease on 01:28:168 (2) - and similar notes throughout the map would be cool
12:03 Mir: cuz the sound feels like it's dampened a bit
12:04 walter85: yeah true
12:04 Mir: would also make 01:28:464 (1,2) - stand out more
12:05 walter85: if i'll make those 1/6 sliders there would be even more contrast right?
12:05 Mir: ye
12:06 walter85: is 1.00 -> 1.50 sv okay? like, slower for 01:28:019 (1,2) - and then suddenly faster
12:06 walter85: and then it's normal
12:06 Mir: yeah that should be fine
12:07 walter85: nice
12:07 walter85: btw this is basically a mod, post the chat in the forum afterwards plz :P
12:07 Mir: yeah i suppose so
12:08 Mir: i quite like the map actually, i might go for the rest of the diffs later

I'll be back.
PandaHero
Hi! M4m from my queue.

Oh, you have a star :o

[General]
1. Hm, just a my opinion, but it will be more suitable to name a top diff as "Another" or find some custom diffname.
2. Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
soft-hitfinish.wav
3. Try to put spinner somewhere in all your diffs.

[Easy]
Why you didn't map the beginning, it looks so lazy. You can put at least one spinner here.
00:31:575 (4,1) - not very comfortable movement here, I recommend you to move slider a bit down.
00:40:464 (2) - this note overlap a default hp bar, move it a bit down.
01:35:131 (5) - ^
01:14:242 (6) - you can add 1/2 slider instead of this note, for emphasizing the same sound as you follow here 01:17:353 (5).
01:21:353 (6) - ^
01:53:797 (1) - oh, you can add spinner after this note.

This diff is nice, only one thing that I disagree with is 00:16:908 (5) - this kind of sliders, that ignore strong sound on the big white tick. Will be better if you remove the reverse arrow and put note on it.

[Normal]
Same thoughts about beginning as in easy diff.
00:15:575 (3,4) - too hard for normal diff, because slider starts from violet tick, it may confuse non-experienced players. You can make "slider+note" instead of "note+slider", that rhythmically better than your variant, or make it as a reverse slider.
Also I prefer to see difference between kiai and non kiai parts, but I can't see it in this diff, try to make non-kiai parts easier.
Same about the spinner in the end.

[Hard]
Aaaand again, the beginning.
Cs 3.8 instead of cs 4? ;w;
00:18:242 (1) - curved sliders looks not very nice on electronic songs, maybe it will be better with red anchors or just straight?
01:17:352 (1) - you missed sound on the end of this slider, I would recommend to make a two notes isntead of slider.
01:24:464 (1) - ^

[Riki's Insane]
00:19:575 (1,2) - this sounds axactly the same as 00:20:019 (3) - , maybe will be better to make a reverse slider here?
00:20:464 (4) - it so strange that you did this loong slider and missed some sounds on 00:20:908, 00:21:057 and 00:21:205.
00:36:019 (1,2,3) - looks a bit random, will be better, if you make it with same curve and degreese. For example - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8500563
00:41:797 (2) - I think if you ctrl+h this slider, it will be works better.
00:48:908 (1) - this long slider is also strange as a previous.
00:56:908 (1,2) - these sliders looks so lazy, you can make a lot of 1/1 sliders instead of it.
01:21:353 (1) - what is wrong with this slider? o.o I guess tt should be the same form as here - 01:14:242 (1).
01:30:686 (1,2,3) - I think it will be rhythmically better as a stream because of strong sounds on the slider's ends.
01:37:797 (1,2,3) - ^
01:07:279 (2) - this note overlap with score %
01:50:242 (1) - slider's end overlap a bit with score %

[Insane]
00:03:131 (1) - I would like to make it as a three note, because os strong sound on the slider's end.
00:12:464 (1,2,1,2) - I can't understand why you still overlap these notes in more intensive part that was before - 00:05:353 (1,2,1,2).
00:15:131 (3) - maybe add nc here to remove the ugly followpoints?

Cool map, good luck with this set.
Topic Starter
walter85

PandaHero wrote:

Hi! M4m from my queue.

Oh, you have a star :o

[General]
1. Hm, just a my opinion, but it will be more suitable to name a top diff as "Another" or find some custom diffname. Maybe changing to "Demon" cuz geometry dash
2. Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
soft-hitfinish.wav Audacity says it's fine
3. Try to put spinner somewhere in all your diffs.

[Easy]
Why you didn't map the beginning, it looks so lazy. You can put at least one spinner here. nah
00:31:575 (4,1) - not very comfortable movement here, I recommend you to move slider a bit down. There are a lot of movements like that,
and they're all fine

00:40:464 (2) - this note overlap a default hp bar, move it a bit down. fixed
01:35:131 (5) - ^ fixed
01:14:242 (6) - you can add 1/2 slider instead of this note, for emphasizing the same sound as you follow here 01:17:353 (5). wat, that wouldn't be correctly snapped. 01:17:353 (5) has a different sound
01:21:353 (6) - ^ ^
01:53:797 (1) - oh, you can add spinner after this note. no spinners

This diff is nice, only one thing that I disagree with is 00:16:908 (5) - this kind of sliders, that ignore strong sound on the big white tick. Will be better if you remove the reverse arrow and put note on it. It's fine imo

[Normal]
Same thoughts about beginning as in easy diff. same response
00:15:575 (3,4) - too hard for normal diff, because slider starts from violet tick, it may confuse non-experienced players. You can make "slider+note" instead of "note+slider", that rhythmically better than your variant, or make it as a reverse slider. I had a friend to playtest it. He was 350k at the time and he said it's fine
Also I prefer to see difference between kiai and non kiai parts, but I can't see it in this diff, try to make non-kiai parts easier. I was planning to remap it
Same about the spinner in the end. same

[Hard]
Aaaand again, the beginning.
Cs 3.8 instead of cs 4? ;w; cs4 is fine
00:18:242 (1) - curved sliders looks not very nice on electronic songs, maybe it will be better with red anchors or just straight? i use red anchors for other sounds
01:17:352 (1) - you missed sound on the end of this slider, I would recommend to make a two notes isntead of slider. I'm prioritizing the "pyoom" sound, skipping some unimportant beats is fine
01:24:464 (1) - ^ ^

[Insane]
00:03:131 (1) - I would like to make it as a three note, because os strong sound on the slider's end. I wanted to distinguish the initial section from the rest of the map
00:12:464 (1,2,1,2) - I can't understand why you still overlap these notes in more intensive part that was before - 00:05:353 (1,2,1,2). it's for consistency, we're still in the hype-building part overall
00:15:131 (3) - maybe add nc here to remove the ugly followpoints? it would be inconsistent with the comboing of the map, and also followpoints aren't important

Cool map, good luck with this set.
LwL
hey, from my q

  1. 00:06:242 (1) - The sound on the sliderend here stands out a lot, you're changing up the placement after the slider, but that doesn't really do this particular sound justice imo. Just making the slider two circles while keeping low spacing (or maybe stacking them since you did that with a similar synth sound at 00:09:945 (2) - ) would make it stand out nicely. The sudden rather large spacing change while keeping the same slider shape and direction could also throw players off otherwise.
  2. 00:12:908 (1,2) - similar situation, feels like the sounds on the sliderend and (2) should stand out a bit.
  3. 00:29:797 (1,2) - This seems very low spaced compared to all the other instances of this pattern, the difference in spacing from (1) to (2) and (2) to (3) is also very little as a result.
  4. 00:34:242 (1,2,3,4) - I think this group of sounds should stand out, for one the pitch rises a lot and it feels much stronger as a result, and also the synth melody gets really quiet on (3) to the point where it's barely audible, it feels special compared to 00:30:686 (1,2,3,4) - and the others. (this happens twice per kiai)
  5. 00:43:575 (3,4) - Why are these 1.0 spaced when they were 0.9 in the section past the intro where the music is basically identical? It's a noticeable visual change so it should be consistent imo. It also changes back to 0.9 later in this section, and then back to 1.0 even later at 01:25:797 (1,2) - , and I can't really see the reason behind it.
  6. 01:10:538 (1,2,3) - Maybe use ~2.0 DS since it's the same pitch as 01:08:760 (1,2,3,4) - ?

    Really solid diff, almost only subjective stuff.
  1. 00:15:131 (1,2) - Why suddenly change up the rhythm here? Could just start doing it in the next pattern and it'd feel less random since it's seperated by a change in music
  2. 00:17:945 - I don't think you should skip over this
  3. 00:20:686 - same, the very low pitch also actually starts here rather than on 00:20:464 - , so starting the slider here would seem more fitting anyway. Both this and the previous one repeat in this section, the one after the kiai, and the one before the final kiai.
  4. 00:30:686 (1,2,3) - has identical pitch to 00:32:464 (1,2,1,2,1) - , but the patterns are different, and then when the pitch does change (and the song imo is more intense) at 00:34:242 (1,2) - you go back to the previous pattern. The pitch does change at the last group of notes for each pattern compared to the first two, you could do something with that as well (you did at 00:35:131 (1) - , but not before). Applies throughout this kiai and partially to the second one.

    00:32:464 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - The pattern seems to assign equal importants to the white ticks as to the 2/3 ticks (the one the circles are on, idk how else to say it), which I don't hear in the song.
  5. 00:39:575 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ^
  6. 01:04:908 (3) - The sound on the sliderend stands out, making the slider shorter and making 01:05:205 part of the jump pattern seems like a better fit.
  1. 00:16:019 (1,2,1) - 00:24:464 (1,2,1) - 00:36:908 (1,2,1) - all of these and many others could be executed a little cleaner, being perfect triangles. In some cases it's more obvious than others, but they all seem to have been done freehand instead of with the rotation or create polygon tool.
  1. 00:26:242 (3,4,5) - This doesn't follow time-distance equality because of the stack, might be a problem.
  2. Also not sure if the amount of 1/3 gaps you have is ok for a normal, it might be too dense considering the RC says to use "mostly 1/1, occasional 1/2 rhythms" (for a 180 bpm map, 1/3 on this map is equivalent to ~200 bpm 1/2)
  • 00:37:353 (3,4,1) - Muh perfect triangle. If it's because of spacing constraints you could just change the angle leading to (3) a bit. If you generally did this freehand might want to check through all diffs to see if it's obvious anywhere (other than the hard, where it's definitely obvious in a few places).

Good Luck! :)
Topic Starter
walter85

LwL wrote:

hey, from my q

  1. 00:06:242 (1) - The sound on the sliderend here stands out a lot, you're changing up the placement after the slider, but that doesn't really do this particular sound justice imo. Just making the slider two circles while keeping low spacing (or maybe stacking them since you did that with a similar synth sound at 00:09:945 (2) - ) would make it stand out nicely. The sudden rather large spacing change while keeping the same slider shape and direction could also throw players off otherwise. Nice suggestion but to me it doesn't seem like that sound stands out in the song, so I'm gonna keep it this way. Btw there's no sudden spacing change,those 3 slider are copypasted and rotated by 30°, and ds is around 3.15x for all of them
  2. 00:12:908 (1,2) - similar situation, feels like the sounds on the sliderend and (2) should stand out a bit. similar response
  3. 00:29:797 (1,2) - This seems very low spaced compared to all the other instances of this pattern, the difference in spacing from (1) to (2) and (2) to (3) is also very little as a result. uh didn't notice, fixed
  4. 00:34:242 (1,2,3,4) - I think this group of sounds should stand out, for one the pitch rises a lot and it feels much stronger as a result, and also the synth melody gets really quiet on (3) to the point where it's barely audible, it feels special compared to 00:30:686 (1,2,3,4) - and the others. (this happens twice per kiai) I'll probably change it in the future, I can't think of a way right now
  5. 00:43:575 (3,4) - Why are these 1.0 spaced when they were 0.9 in the section past the intro where the music is basically identical? It's a noticeable visual change so it should be consistent imo. It also changes back to 0.9 later in this section, and then back to 1.0 even later at 01:25:797 (1,2) - , and I can't really see the reason behind it. oh fuck lol, fixing them all
  6. 01:10:538 (1,2,3) - Maybe use ~2.0 DS since it's the same pitch as 01:08:760 (1,2,3,4) - ? I really like the movement there, I think it reflects the music very well, also (2) isn't nearly as strong as the other sounds since the pitch is lower

    Really solid diff, almost only subjective stuff.
  1. 00:16:019 (1,2,1) - 00:24:464 (1,2,1) - 00:36:908 (1,2,1) - all of these and many others could be executed a little cleaner, being perfect triangles. In some cases it's more obvious than others, but they all seem to have been done freehand instead of with the rotation or create polygon tool. They are, fixing some of them
  1. 00:26:242 (3,4,5) - This doesn't follow time-distance equality because of the stack, might be a problem. uh, it was off by 1 plxel i think
  2. Also not sure if the amount of 1/3 gaps you have is ok for a normal, it might be too dense considering the RC says to use "mostly 1/1, occasional 1/2 rhythms" (for a 180 bpm map, 1/3 on this map is equivalent to ~200 bpm 1/2) I think it's fine
  • 00:37:353 (3,4,1) - Muh perfect triangle. If it's because of spacing constraints you could just change the angle leading to (3) a bit. If you generally did this freehand might want to check through all diffs to see if it's obvious anywhere (other than the hard, where it's definitely obvious in a few places). That was because of spacing constrain, thanks for the tip, fixed

Good Luck! :)Thank you!
RikiH_

[Nemesis] wrote:

Riki's Insane

00:14:686 (2) - that's an undermap, I know that it's supposed to be an easier insane but it's an Insane regardless, I feel like this sound just cannot be ignored (00:14:834 - )
00:18:390 - and again, I'm not gonna mention it anymore, just reconsider your rhythm choices in these moments. Yeah this might be took into consideration, I will wait for more opinions
00:32:464 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - why would you suddenly change your patterns from repeating sliders to slider-circle? don't talk about variety, you use this pattern only once while all the others look the same 00:39:575 - (1) This is the same, I did it intentionally for variety
00:56:908 (1,2) - feels like a really lazy pattern, why don't you just put a break there instead lol because it's something different
01:21:353 (1) - cool slider
01:53:797 (1) - cool slider vol. 2 Thanks for those!
Thank you!

PandaHero wrote:

[Riki's Insane]
00:19:575 (1,2) - this sounds axactly the same as 00:20:019 (3) - , maybe will be better to make a reverse slider here? I need to think about this pattern, I think I'll edit it later
00:20:464 (4) - it so strange that you did this loong slider and missed some sounds on 00:20:908, 00:21:057 and 00:21:205. Nothing is missed. The slider clearly follows every single sound here, since there's a wobble on it
00:36:019 (1,2,3) - looks a bit random, will be better, if you make it with same curve and degreese. For example - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8500563 Agree with that, fixed!
00:41:797 (2) - I think if you ctrl+h this slider, it will be works better. Yes, fixed
00:48:908 (1) - this long slider is also strange as a previous.
00:56:908 (1,2) - these sliders looks so lazy, you can make a lot of 1/1 sliders instead of it. The intention is to use repetitive sliders, since the sound is itself repetitive
01:21:353 (1) - what is wrong with this slider? o.o I guess tt should be the same form as here - 01:14:242 (1). Nope sorry, I hate copy-pasting
01:30:686 (1,2,3) - I think it will be rhythmically better as a stream because of strong sounds on the slider's ends. A 12 note stream on my diff would be an unnecessary difficulty spike, since there isn't any such stream in the other insane
01:37:797 (1,2,3) - ^
01:07:279 (2) - this note overlap with score % Fixed!
01:50:242 (1) - slider's end overlap a bit with score % Fixed as well
Thanks for the mod :D

LwL wrote:

  1. 00:15:131 (1,2) - Why suddenly change up the rhythm here? Could just start doing it in the next pattern and it'd feel less random since it's seperated by a change in music I think that the 1/3 sound is slightly more intense here, so that's why I separated it
  2. 00:17:945 - I don't think you should skip over this Same reason here. 1/3 is slightly less audible
  3. 00:20:686 - same, the very low pitch also actually starts here rather than on 00:20:464 - , so starting the slider here would seem more fitting anyway. Both this and the previous one repeat in this section, the one after the kiai, and the one before the final kiai. I'm following the synth, mainly
  4. 00:30:686 (1,2,3) - has identical pitch to 00:32:464 (1,2,1,2,1) - , but the patterns are different, and then when the pitch does change (and the song imo is more intense) at 00:34:242 (1,2) - you go back to the previous pattern. The pitch does change at the last group of notes for each pattern compared to the first two, you could do something with that as well (you did at 00:35:131 (1) - , but not before). Applies throughout this kiai and partially to the second one.
    I'm not coming back to the previous pattern at all, this is the pattern I used:
    repeat slider - repeat slider - repeat slider
    repeat slider - repeat slider - repeat slider
    1/3 + note - 1/3 + note - 1/3 + note
    repeat slider - repeat slider - 3 notes
    The very last 3 notes are more intense to click, compared with the rest of the patterns, and that intensifies the rhythm. By the way I can consider replacing those sliders with 1/3 + note again, if it doesn't cause playability issues and make the map too hard


    00:32:464 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - The pattern seems to assign equal importants to the white ticks as to the 2/3 ticks (the one the circles are on, idk how else to say it), which I don't hear in the song. It's all 1/3. Every single beat is equally important, so
  5. 00:39:575 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ^
  6. 01:04:908 (3) - The sound on the sliderend stands out, making the slider shorter and making 01:05:205 part of the jump pattern seems like a better fit. This does not fully convince me, honestly, but I can try it
Mir:

Fixed stuff lol

Ready!

https://puu.sh/wBE06/54bdf9c131.osu
-kevincela-
Quick check, just a few aesthetic and consistency changes have been done:
22:52 walter85: hey o/
23:30 -kevincela-: ops, eccomi
23:30 -kevincela-: ammi pure la mappa
23:30 -kevincela-: *dammi
23:30 walter85: si ecco
23:31 *walter85 is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1330566 F-777 - Deadlocked]
23:31 walter85: RikiH_ ci ha fatto pure una gd :3
23:36 -kevincela-: ammazza, niente male
23:36 -kevincela-: sei già meglio di diversi ranked mapper lol
23:37 -kevincela-: 00:08:464 (1,2,3) - magari li potresti spaziare un pochino di più per rendere l'intensficarsi degli strumenti
23:38 walter85: oddio grazie!
23:39 walter85: spe che apro l'editor
23:39 -kevincela-: 00:20:908 (4) - forse una new combo ci sta, però è molto soggettivo quindi puoi anche non farlo
23:40 -kevincela-: 00:38:242 (3,4) - giusto per fare il nazi, mettendoli su x:248 y:306 dovrebbe complementare visualmente il precedente pattern un pochino meglio
23:40 walter85: 00:08:464 (1,2,3) - qui volevo fare una cosa graduale, mi sembra vada bene così
23:40 walter85: 00:20:908 (4) - qui preferisco lasciarla così
23:41 -kevincela-: np, sono tutte cose piccole lol
23:41 walter85: l'ultima sistemata
23:41 walter85: ho già una stella da un bn però non so se dovrei risentirlo così presto
23:44 -kevincela-: 01:41:205 (3) - vedendo i pattern del primo kiai potresti muoverlo su x:400 y:176 per mantenere la consistenza
23:44 -kevincela-: (piccola cosa xd)
23:45 walter85: fatto
23:45 -kevincela-: 01:45:797 (3,4) - anche qui direi x:298 y:360
23:46 -kevincela-: per il resto direi che è pronta per me ahah
23:46 walter85: fatto anche quello
23:47 walter85: poi posta nel forum che ti do il kudosu
23:48 -kevincela-: oki
sakebi
easy, normal, hard had no problems

[Riki's Insane]
- 00:36:464 (2,3,4) - spacing on this is too small and doesn't fit the music, would be better if had similar spacing to this pattern: 00:26:242 (1,2,3) -
- 00:41:797 (2,3,4) - ^^
- 00:48:019 (1,2,3) - pattern doesn't really fit, instead of like 123456 its 123456. so instead of three sliders it should be two sliders each w one reverse, if that makes sense. or it could just be 6 circles. same goes for other patterns / rhythms like this
- 00:48:908 (1) - slider makes no sense, no note held here so it should just be the same rhythm.
- generally it feels like the sliders are too slow for this kind of music, typically these songs have a lot of varied slider velocity (like in this set's Demon difficulty) and it kinda feels boring without that present. since this is an insane, faster sliders wouldn't be too hard. tl;dr: sliders feel too slow

[Demon]
- no problems i could see. good map
Kuro Fuyusaki
I don't even know what am i supposed to mod, so i'll give star instead.

Well, tho I wish HP setting for Riki's Insane and Demon could be increased because there's too much NC and the HP recovers easily (even with HR). Not that i'm complaining.

Oh, i forgot. there's one thing, but you could ignore it. At Demon diff, this pattern 00:28:908 (1,2) - and similarly, i hope you could put the DS a bit far, something like 1.15x ...fairly like this 00:29:797 (1,2,3) - <--- I use DS 1.1x and 1.2x and it doesn't seem to fit....so i conclude it was 1.15x , kek

Hope this get ranked soon
Topic Starter
walter85

lilligantEX wrote:

easy, normal, hard had no problems

I'm gonna respond to some of these for RikiH_ since I already know what he thinks of it
[Riki's Insane]
- 00:36:464 (2,3,4) - spacing on this is too small and doesn't fit the music, would be better if had similar spacing to this pattern: 00:26:242 (1,2,3) -
- 00:41:797 (2,3,4) - ^^ This is probably to emphasize 00:36:908 (1,2,3) - since there are stronger sounds there
- 00:48:019 (1,2,3) - pattern doesn't really fit, instead of like 123456 its 123456. so instead of three sliders it should be two sliders each w one reverse, if that makes sense. or it could just be 6 circles. same goes for other patterns / rhythms like this Here he decided to follow the synth instead of drums. It's up to the mapped to decide what instrument to follow if they've the same importance. He decided to follow the synth and he's consistent with it
- 00:48:908 (1) - slider makes no sense, no note held here so it should just be the same rhythm. It's here to indicate the drums' stop. It also follows the music with its curvature
- generally it feels like the sliders are too slow for this kind of music, typically these songs have a lot of varied slider velocity (like in this set's Demon difficulty) and it kinda feels boring without that present. since this is an insane, faster sliders wouldn't be too hard. tl;dr: sliders feel too slow I'll leave this to him

[Demon]
- no problems i could see. good map Thank you

Kuro Fuyusaki wrote:

I don't even know what am i supposed to mod, so i'll give star instead. Oh, thanks!

Well, tho I wish HP setting for Riki's Insane and Demon could be increased because there's too much NC and the HP recovers easily (even with HR). Not that i'm complaining. HP is already hell in demon diff, with all those NC and few 1/1 gaps, it feels almost like HP9. I'd increase it in insane diff,
but that's mainly for mapset balance (4,5->5,5->6,3)


Oh, i forgot. there's one thing, but you could ignore it. At Demon diff, this pattern 00:28:908 (1,2) - and similarly, i hope you could put the DS a bit far, something like 1.15x ...fairly like this 00:29:797 (1,2,3) - <--- I use DS 1.1x and 1.2x and it doesn't seem to fit....so i conclude it was 1.15x , kek Doesn't change much tbh

Hope this get ranked soon Thank you! I hope so
Rakuen
(◕ᴗ◕✿) Rakuen Diva Trap Modding Queue [osu!standard]

Default = Normal mods
Blue = Strongly recommended
Red = Unrankable issue

Easy

  1. 01:41:353 (3,4,1) - I wouldn't place stacks like this, at least for Easy wanna make everything transparent

Hard

  1. The first part here 00:32:019 (1) - has 1.1x spacing and 00:33:797 (1) - has only 1.0x...dem my OCD

Riki's Insane

  1. 01:32:019 (3) - This part is not consistent with the other 3 parts you did 00:20:464 (4) - 00:27:575 (1) - 01:38:686 (1) - which they have longer sliders (nothing wrong just reminding :p)

Hmm...this map is just good for me, or am I shit, cant find anything to mod :c

A star for you ★

Good luck!
~(=^・ω・^)/。・:*:・゚★,。・:*:・゚☆
Topic Starter
walter85

Rakuen wrote:

(◕ᴗ◕✿) Rakuen Diva Trap Modding Queue [osu!standard]

Default = Normal mods
Blue = Strongly recommended
Red = Unrankable issue

Easy

  1. 01:41:353 (3,4,1) - I wouldn't place stacks like this, at least for Easy wanna make everything transparent You mean the overlap? it's not that bad imo

Hard

  1. The first part here 00:32:019 (1) - has 1.1x spacing and 00:33:797 (1) - has only 1.0x...dem my OCD o fuk, fixed

Riki's Insane

  1. 01:32:019 (3) - This part is not consistent with the other 3 parts you did 00:20:464 (4) - 00:27:575 (1) - 01:38:686 (1) - which they have longer sliders (nothing wrong just reminding :p) He's remapping the diff, should've said that sorry

Hmm...this map is just good for me, or am I shit, cant find anything to mod :c

A star for you ★ Thank you!

Good luck! Thanks!
~(=^・ω・^)/。・:*:・゚★,。・:*:・゚☆
saggi
this mapset is perfect wtf
Seijiro
o.o

Magari lascia Riki rispondere a lilligantEX, siccome ora come ora quel post non vale nessun kudosu vista la risposta :P
Topic Starter
walter85

MrSergio wrote:

o.o

Magari lascia Riki rispondere a lilligantEX, siccome ora come ora quel post non vale nessun kudosu vista la risposta :P
Mah comunque sta rimappando la sua diff, e poi era roba di cui avevamo già parlato quindi per fare prima ho risposto direttamente io :P se non va bene lo lascio a lui
Mirash
Riki's Insane
00:20:908 (1) - you dont use ncs on such sounds later ( 00:49:353 (5) - 01:32:019 (5) - )
01:10:168 (4) - not really a fan of such overlaps, could just stack on slider or something like http://i.imgur.com/pkapPaj.png
01:39:130 (5) - this could use a soft whistle on slider body
01:42:686 (1,2,3) - flows not that well, i'd do something like http://i.imgur.com/jloh567.png instead
01:44:464 (1,2,3) - same, kinda bad flow in my eyes, maybe just a straight line will work better http://i.imgur.com/7HPBf6F.png
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