Maaya Sakamoto - Million Clouds · forum

Mir

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Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-07-01T17:12:11+00:00

As Skylish so kindly suggested I recheck the timing along with you guys, I shall.

It's fine now.

Waiting for the reply on the Normal and I'll give a recheck.

depzdai

152 posts

Joined July 2015

depzdai 2017-07-01T17:19:08+00:00

Mir wrote:
oh yeah before i forget

firstly get a timing check, the beginning is off by a lot x.x

[depzdai's Normal]
- 00:08:387 (1) - would remove these types of ncs since density is really low // 00:14:261 (1) - Also I will make it 2 beats/combo at the intro then for consistency.
- 00:29:995 (3,4) - making these relate better would be cool, maybe straight sliders? Ok.
- 00:31:044 (1,2,3,4) - Too many clicks in succession for such a calm part if you ask me, maybe make 00:31:044 (1,2) - a slider cuz vocals are held here I'll change it to a reverse slider as the pattern that I had built from 00:26:010 - to 00:39:436 - . In case you haven't realized yet, in that part I did follow the instruments but the vocal, since I want to build a progressive tune for the diff like how the song developed. However, the vocal seemed too rhythm-thick to follow at the very soon of the whole build-up from 00:26:010 - to 00:51:185 - , so I separated the it to two small periods: From 00:26:010 - to 00:39:436 - I would follow the instruments (since they were not as dynamic as the vocal) and from 00:39:436 - to 00:51:185 - I would follow the vocal (because I supposed it was about time I did so). As what I have interpreted, actually I want this combo to have some pattern different because I felt that the keys didn't went the same melody as others, but it was too excessive for the calm tune as you said. So yea, I'll change it like what I've said above.
- 00:35:660 (3) - could work as just a circle imo, since it might give you more room to play with 00:35:030 (2,1) - this slider-end overlap that's unadvisable in lower diffs. i did this http://i.imgur.com/7ueitZS.jpg but you can change it however you want As what I've said above, I will change the pattern without that overlap but also keep the note 00:35:870 - since I don't think that piano key should be missed, according to what I followed.
- 00:41:097 (1,2,3) - maybe try this http://i.imgur.com/rD16QTl.png might look nicer Changed, but not like your one.
- 00:42:775 (1) - mm i don't know about these circle sliders, they stand out a lot now since a lot of the sliders are fairly straightforward Yeah, I changed the rhythm as LMT's advice beneath.
- 00:52:845 (1) - i would actually keep this un-nc'd lol looks better that way Fixed.
- 00:58:509 (3,4,5) - turn stacking on if you have it off and fix the blanket here? // 01:08:579 (2,3,4) - Yeah, I will fix 00:58:509 (3,4,5) - , but 01:08:579 (2,3,4) - since the slider standing below the stack then it would be better if I get 01:08:597 (2,4) - for blanket (no fix, or yes since 01:08:597 (2,4) - are a little off, if it's your idea :d).
- 00:59:558 (1,2) - these patterns don't really seem to fit much imo since a lot of the stuff so far in the map hasn't been symmetrical, i would try to make these more straightforward (i would also make these two the same slider or something) try: http://i.imgur.com/nFI1AvO.png maybe? or something along those lines Changed like yours. Thanks for the pattern.
- 01:01:237 (1,2,3,4) - even more so, 120 degree patterns seem out of place for this difficulty considering what you've already mapped Changed.
- 01:04:174 (3,1) - avoidable overlap Moved it away a little using distance snap.
- 01:06:901 (2,1) - centering this overlap would be cool like http://i.imgur.com/xLbSEAt.png Done. Didn't think about it xd, though I wonder a bit whether which one is better, stacked with the sliderend or something like yours.
- 01:11:726 (2,3) - hmm particularly uncomfortable flow compared to the rest of the kiai. The flow will be easier to play now.
- 01:23:055 (1,2) - maybe reverse slider here instead? Yeah.
- 01:29:768 (1) - would remove one reverse and put a circle on 01:30:398 - instead since as i mentioned before, multi-reverses aren't really ideal Fixed.

just some extra stuff for the normal (yes i used the update) don't kds this Thank you so much for your extra stuff (: . Sorry for such a long interpretation above, but it's my idea to map the normal diff of this song unlike the other diffs.
also so i don't just have a post with a star that looks kinda bad

LMT wrote:
gonna mod Normal in english so Mir could actually see what would be discussed
00:42:775 (1,2) - kinda hard to recognise the rhythm with the way you present this pattern. Also looks like you're stuck with how things after this is laid out so no easy fix for you. A solution would be to forego the vocals on the 3/2 slider and change it to something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8481776 . Thanks for your pattern. It should be easier to follow now.
00:46:132 (1,2,3,1) - of course, fix this as well if you choose to fix that, even though this is how the previous pattern should have been presented. Yea, of course.
01:16:342 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1) - the climax of the kiai is ironically the most simplistic, which is against what the music is doing. I've realized your idea. But, I will change it in my way then.
- https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8481788 could try to follow the plucked violin since it has 1/2 rhythm while emphasising the prolonged violin with the 1/1 at the downbeat. From 01:16:359 - to 01:19:716 - It much focuses the violin and the orchestral keys so I don't want to map some plucked violin here, but add some notes between these 1/1 sliders to not reduce the flame.
- 01:19:698 (1,2,3,4) - make this part denser rhythmically so the player is aware of the climax. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8481805 I will turn your circle 2,3 into a slider since from here the plucked violin went loud enough to be noticed and also I shouldn't raise the flame too hastily because of above.
Both the intro and the outro are rhythmically denser than the kiai is the main issue, it's not even hard to cut it down. You can forego the instruments so the vocals stand out more in those sections, I don't think they are denser. I followed vocal in the intro and outro, with some more notes in the outro that I've written my reason below. There are many breaks, both long and short ones, and the number of long sliders (>1 beat) are quite fair in these periods in my opinion.
- for example: 01:23:265 (2,3) - you could just delete this. These things are the only things which make the outro different from the intro. Since the outro are more atmospheric and dynamic than the intro (there are more background keys and the instruments is not only the piano), I will also follow the guitar in order not to make some stress there.
- could even simplify vocals like 01:24:314 (4,1,2,3) - could be as simple as https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8481828 and still make sense. In the outro, being suddenly calm like this may cause misreading. Also, I think it's not a good idea to connect them with 01:28:108 (1,2) - after. And these and others, there are reasons for what I did these (though I don't think there are any 'others'). After all, I don't think they are too heated or too calm at all.
01:29:768 (1) - this is written in the guideline for normal that it should be avoided as the second arrow is visible for a very short period of time (in this case it's only visible for 210ms, which is like reading AR11!) Fixed.
Thank you very much for your useful mod. :3

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Mir

osu! Alumni

2,151 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-07-01T17:45:00+00:00

Rechecking

[Easy]

SPOILER

19:30 Mir: hi bakari
19:30 Mir: are you busy atm

19:30 Bakari: hey
19:30 Bakari: not really, just trying to realise what's happening
19:30 Bakari: came back after a short break :p
19:30 Mir: oh i see xD
19:31 Mir: erm, i need an opinion on something, is it okay if you can take a look?
19:31 Mir: it's not kpop or english unfortunately

19:32 Bakari: i guess i could give it a try, why not
19:32 *Mir is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1321437 Sakamoto Maaya - Million Clouds (TV Size) [Easy]]
19:33 Mir: the stacking of objects 00:02:513 (1,2) -
19:33 Mir: do you think this is sufficient time for a new player to realize the object is under it?
19:33 Mir: and to not click it preemptively
19:34 Bakari: yeah, why not
19:34 Bakari: besides, it's literally the very first pattern
19:34 Mir: yeah come to think of it
19:34 Bakari: players can just retry it anyway
19:34 Mir: alright
19:34 Mir: that should be fine then, thanks bakari~

It's fine I suppose.~

[Normal]
- 00:32:723 (1) - DS

- 00:35:031 - whistle here is really loud and other diffs don't have it, i suggest removing it

yeah it's fine now, nice~

[Kocari]
- 00:46:150 (1,2,3,1,2) - now the rhythm is weird asdasdasdasd i think it was better before cuz it followed the guitar on 00:46:779 - better like http://i.imgur.com/gmhHBEy.png

@Yamicchi pm me ingame after these things are addressed
fuck that whistle made me edit this post like 3 times

Winnie

1,343 posts

Joined November 2013

Winnie 2017-07-02T03:19:57+00:00

Ok enough trolling the new BN this is the best I'll make it. I'm not changing after this I have my reasons

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Yamicchi

1,175 posts

Joined May 2015

Topic Starter

Yamicchi 2017-07-02T03:27:05+00:00

All updated with metadata changed. Source in description, let's go~

Mir

osu! Alumni

2,151 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-07-02T07:40:40+00:00

A million clouds.~

SPOILER

09:26 Yamicchi: yo
09:26 Mir: aloha
09:26 Yamicchi: everything is ready
09:27 Mir: o did you change some tags or something
09:27 Yamicchi: I changed the metadata after asking Delis
09:27 Mir: ah okay that's why
09:27 Yamicchi: removed TV Size and changed to Maaya Sakamoto instead xd
09:27 Yamicchi: the link are all in the description tho
09:29 Mir: okay metadata looks good
09:29 Mir: easy: 00:31:045 (2) -
09:29 Mir: this is so close to offscreen you might as well move it up a bit
09:30 Yamicchi: ok lemme updated it
09:30 Mir: just a sec
09:30 Mir: im going through it another time
09:30 Yamicchi: ok
09:31 Mir: 00:39:419 - eeee timing line isn't snapped here
09:31 Mir: if you can do snap it please xD
09:31 Yamicchi: a ok
09:32 Mir: looks like we have some general issues to take care of first
09:32 Mir: kocari and LMT's diff don't have video?
09:32 Yamicchi: woa is that so?
09:32 Mir: http://i.imgur.com/yEIPyYZ.png
09:33 Yamicchi: lemme add in real quick
09:33 Mir: seems your custom hitfinish isn't used either
09:33 Mir: the normal one
09:34 Mir: if it is do tell me where, since MA can be wrong sometimes
09:34 Yamicchi: oh that must be the old hitsound I tried out
09:34 Yamicchi: removed
09:35 Mir: cool because that triggered the delay warning too lol
09:35 Yamicchi: lol
09:35 Mir: 01:33:982 (1) - in kocari's diff
09:35 Mir: the spinner ends a bit earlier on the sound
09:35 Yamicchi: 01:36:394 - ?
09:36 Mir: it's kinda tilting me that it's inconsistent so, maybe do that for the other diffs?
09:36 Mir: 01:36:185 - it ends here
09:36 Yamicchi: should I change on Kocari's diff?
09:36 Mir: you can
09:37 Mir: 01:37:338 - rest of the diffs end it here
09:37 Yamicchi: ok made it end on 01:37:338 - as the others
09:37 Mir: okay
09:37 Mir: updateo~~
09:37 Yamicchi: updated
09:39 Mir: alright looking good

Set is looking good, let's give this a shot. Bubbled.

Good luck!

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,844 posts

Joined August 2013

Kibbleru 2017-07-02T08:43:16+00:00

easy
00:51:185 (1,1) - spinner recovery time too short
00:02:513 (1,2) - im not too sure about these stacks here.. maybe AR3 will help a bit

normal
spread kinda sucks lol,, theres a huge gap from easy to normal and then normal advanced hard is like.. sorta linear
this normal seems basically like an advanced if it were on higher bpm
00:18:448 (6,7,8,1) - this stop and go flow is not suitable for this diff
00:55:171 (3,4,5,1) - ^
00:58:527 (3,4,5,1) - etc..
00:38:597 (2,1) - cant u make this overlap look.. nicer?

how i see it you basically have an easy, 2 advance diffs, hard and insane.. do something about that pls

advanced
01:10:485 (3,1) - the overlapping here looks really bad

hard
00:02:513 (1) - 00:05:869 (1,2,3) - why is the rhythm different here lol

winnie
01:37:338 - dude 5% this please lol

pop was mainly for spread and the spinner recovery issue, please redo the normal and make something more suitable
(the overlapped 1/2 cs 3 style)

once u do that go poke mir for a rebubble

Winnie

1,343 posts

Joined November 2013

Winnie 2017-07-02T09:08:36+00:00

HEHE XD

osu file format v14

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Mir

osu! Alumni

2,151 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-07-02T09:11:37+00:00

Ehhh I thought spinner was okay for this BPM but apparently not.

As Kibble said, PM me in-game for a recheck, and what may actually be better is just get another mod or two on the Normal (maybe by the other members of the set?) before doing so to be 100% safe.

Yamicchi

1,175 posts

Joined May 2015

Topic Starter

Yamicchi 2017-07-02T09:13:39+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
easy
00:51:185 (1,1) - spinner recovery time too short fixed
00:02:513 (1,2) - im not too sure about these stacks here.. maybe AR3 will help a bit as Mir asked a few about this, and so do I, I think this will be fine. but ya buff the diff to CS3 AR3 is ok too imo

normal
spread kinda sucks lol,, theres a huge gap from easy to normal and then normal advanced hard is like.. sorta linear
this normal seems basically like an advanced if it were on higher bpm
00:18:448 (6,7,8,1) - this stop and go flow is not suitable for this diff
00:55:171 (3,4,5,1) - ^
00:58:527 (3,4,5,1) - etc..
00:38:597 (2,1) - cant u make this overlap look.. nicer?

how i see it you basically have an easy, 2 advance diffs, hard and insane.. do something about that pls I agree the spacing of normal is quite big but overall 0.7* and 0.5* is not actually a big problem tho

advanced
01:10:485 (3,1) - the overlapping here looks really bad fixed

hard
00:02:513 (1) - 00:05:869 (1,2,3) - why is the rhythm different here lol lmt asked me to fix, done

winnie
01:37:338 - dude 5% this please lol talked to Kocari, fixed

pop was mainly for spread and the spinner recovery issue, please redo the normal and make something more suitable
(the overlapped 1/2 cs 3 style)

once u do that go poke mir for a rebubble

Here we go again *sigh*

Edit: Advanced was the diff I added after all the others were finished due to the giant gap between normal and hard. As in my opinion objects gap between normal and advanced are acceptable, as advanced has 1/4 slider in kiai, other section might not be counted in because the rhythm can't be overmapped as anything harder. Easy - normal is also not that bad, we see that kind of gap in most of the set like this. I hope this is still acceptable since the GDer worked really hard on the diff recently I don't wanna cause him in some sort of remap or what I've seen him struggling enough

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,844 posts

Joined August 2013

Kibbleru 2017-07-02T09:49:59+00:00

its just really unbalanced. because u have like 2 advanced diffs.

Yamicchi

1,175 posts

Joined May 2015

Topic Starter

Yamicchi 2017-07-02T09:58:00+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
its just really unbalanced. because u have like 2 advanced diffs.

Yes I talked to a few people about this, lemme try to talk to the GDer when he's online

LMT

535 posts

Joined October 2015

LMT 2017-07-02T10:05:16+00:00

Wasn't happy with how dense 1/2 in the intro and outro still, 4 1/2 clicks with 1/2 sliders afterwards is very dense for a Normal, it is even denser than the kiai where the climax should be. You could always simplify the vocal rhythm in calm part and follow it closely in the kiai to make a better contrast and more reflective of the song, at the same time meeting spread requirements.

LMT

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Joined October 2015

LMT 2017-07-03T16:03:20+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
hard
00:02:513 (1) - 00:05:869 (1,2,3) - why is the rhythm different here lol actually reverting this change since the first one stress the downbeat while the second occurance has more emphasis on (3) than (1)

laptop was ded for a day ;(

thanks for the mod!

Mir

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Mir 2017-07-04T00:46:37+00:00

Triples in the advanced are not mapped in the Hard, so holding off on the rebubble till that's addressed, also LMT's diff is missing a video again.

Courtesy of Yuii-'s impromptu check.~

I'll leave this metadata here as well just so I don't forget it exists.

SPOILER

http://i.imgur.com/c4aMjRL.png

Mir

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Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-07-05T16:17:04+00:00

A million and.. one.. clouds?

It looks okay now, the spread issue seems fixed and other misc stuff has been addressed. depzdai and I have talked over his diff a couple of times and made some more changes.

SPOILER

17:57 Mir: as for you
17:57 *Mir is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1321476 Maaya Sakamoto - Million Clouds [Advanced]]
17:57 Mir: 01:11:954 (2,3) - i just noticed this visual flow is a bit weird
17:58 Mir: i was wondering if you might consider something similar to this http://i.imgur.com/CWVGV2z.jpg
17:59 Mir: 01:24:751 (1) - also this slider i'm still not 100% sure is okay because the border in the middle isn't visible
17:59 Mir: something like [http://i.imgur.com/o5d4I7t.png this] would be okay though
18:01 Mir: 01:27:898 (3,1,2) - the 1 has awkward visual flow implications so how about flipping it like [http://i.imgur.com/0vIAzIH.jpg this]
18:03 Yamicchi: k all fixed
18:04 Mir: alright upd00t
18:04 Yamicchi: aright waiting for my boi to send me the update :3
18:05 Mir: okiee
18:12 Yamicchi: updated
18:14 Mir: okay looks good
18:14 Yamicchi: okaii

SPOILER

17:27 Mir: hellooooo~
17:27 depzdai: Hi Mir.
17:27 Mir: do you have a moment to talk about your map
17:27 Mir: i noticed a small thingy that i'd like an explanation on
17:27 *Mir is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1321436 Maaya Sakamoto - Million Clouds [depzdai's Normal]]
17:27 depzdai: Ok.
17:28 depzdai: I'm ready.
17:28 Mir: 00:44:262 (1) - so this slider has a really strong note on the end, how do you feel about making 00:44:471 - a normal circle instead?
17:29 depzdai: I see. But I think it's too sudden so I changed it for gameplay.
17:29 Mir: the 1/2 slider?
17:31 depzdai: Oh.
17:31 depzdai: Oh yeah.
17:31 Mir: so you changed it just now or you're keeping it?
17:32 depzdai: I think I'll change it if it makes my map better.
17:32 depzdai: Something like this? https://puu.sh/wCfWI/bc5114159f.jpg
17:32 Mir: I was thinking just this http://i.imgur.com/O1b5xYm.png
17:33 Mir: so you don't have to move so much
17:33 Mir: you could even [http://i.imgur.com/cTgHkbW.png arrange it the same]
17:34 depzdai: But I guess I should also map 00:44:262 (3) - since I follow the vocal this part.
17:34 Mir: 00:44:262 - ?
17:34 Mir: hmm but
17:34 Mir: i think in being a normal difficulty you can be a tad selective on what vocals to follow
17:34 Mir: 00:44:471 - is a lot stronger so it is-
17:34 Mir: o
17:35 depzdai: Sorry.
17:35 Mir: noproblem
17:35 Mir: erm, as i was saying i think 00:44:471 - is a lot stronger so skipping the vocal before it still makes sense
17:37 depzdai: I think the vocal is the one that players hear and follow that time.
17:38 Mir: okay how about this instead one se
17:38 Mir: sec
17:38 depzdai: Also the spacing with the previous slider is 1 beat.
17:38 depzdai: So ez to follow.
17:39 Mir: how about this rhythm http://i.imgur.com/HRSbgPu.jpg ?
17:39 Mir: 00:42:793 - starting here
17:41 depzdai: But why don't we should start at the vocal?
17:41 Mir: 00:44:471 - because the downbeat is a lot easier for players to follow
17:41 Mir: new players play 4/4 rhythm a lot, so starting on a red tick is awkard
17:42 Mir: awkward*
17:43 depzdai: Your whole pattern is the compound of guitar and vocal.
17:43 Mir: isn't yours too?
17:44 depzdai: No, but I mean between 2 1-beat breaks.
17:44 Mir: well i don't really have a massive issue with it but what i do have a problem with is if you're going to do it so obviously removing the whistle at 00:44:471 - would give a smaller impression that it's stronger so both beats feel more equal
17:45 Mir: atm the whistle is making 00:44:471 - stand out but it isn't clickable, that's kinda the issue
17:45 depzdai: Oh.
17:45 depzdai: I got it.
17:45 Mir: the thing is that'd be kinda inconsistent with the rest of the difficulties which is why instead of changing hitsounding i'd rather just make it clickable
17:48 depzdai: So it's the case, I'll use the first pattern you've advised.
17:48 depzdai: Is it ok?
17:48 Mir: the one where you just change it to a circle should be fine
17:48 Mir: the only thing you should skip is 00:44:262 -
17:49 depzdai: And since I do it, I'll also change 00:47:618 (1) - then.
17:49 Mir: mhm
17:50 depzdai: Oh, is there anything else?
17:50 Mir: nope that's all
17:52 depzdai: Skipping vocal like this doesn't affect what I mapped at 00:40:905 (1,2,3) - , do you think?
17:52 Mir: nah i don't think so
17:52 Mir: that seems to be fine since vocals are a lot longer
17:53 depzdai: Thanks for your small notice. I'll pm Yami to update my map then.
17:53 Mir: Sounds good~~
17:54 Mir: hm
17:54 Mir: wait
17:54 Mir: eh nvm
17:54 Mir: don't wait lol

Metadata is in the post above, kwanfirmed.

Let's give it another go. Bubbled.

Yamicchi

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Joined May 2015

Topic Starter

Yamicchi 2017-07-05T16:19:18+00:00

Thanks Mir, and wow what a long talk xd

Winnie

1,343 posts

Joined November 2013

Winnie 2017-07-08T01:56:44+00:00

Yuii Came

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Winnie

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Joined November 2013

Winnie 2017-07-08T02:02:28+00:00

Chatlog if Yuii hasn't posted yet

18:34 *Yuii- is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1321438 Maaya Sakamoto - Million Clouds [Kocari's Journey]]
18:34 Yuii-: this one
18:34 *Kocari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1321438 Maaya Sakamoto - Million Clouds [Kocari's Journey]]
18:34 Yuii-: just consistency
18:34 Yuii-: it's like 3/4 things
18:34 Kocari: aight
18:34 Yuii-: 00:05:450 (2,3) - vs every other pattern in the intro makes it weird
18:35 Yuii-: unstack works better
18:35 Yuii-: such as https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/AmjBa5n.jpg
18:35 Yuii-: for emphasis
18:36 Kocari: aight
18:36 Kocari: seems good
18:37 Yuii-: aight aight
18:37 Yuii-: 00:09:226 (1) - u sure about this n c
18:38 Kocari: I think that'd be more ok
18:38 Kocari: than for say
18:38 Kocari: 00:10:695 (1) - 
18:39 Yuii-: i'm ok with the nc on 00:10:695 (1) -
18:39 Yuii-: but the one on 00:09:226 (1) - looks weird
18:39 Kocari: alright I'll NC it then'
18:39 Yuii-: or instead, you could try to nc both 00:02:513 (3) - and 00:05:869 (4) -
18:41 Kocari: yeah
18:41 Kocari: I did all them
18:41 Kocari: it makes more sense that way for me
18:41 Yuii-: nice
18:41 Yuii-: mhm, agree
18:42 Yuii-: 00:15:515 - can i click this or nah?
18:42 Yuii-: you know, new beat, new vocal
18:43 Kocari: I took that into consideration when I made the slider, it blends in quite well 
18:44 Yuii-: so aesthetics basically?
18:44 Kocari: yeah
18:44 Kocari: otherwise if we're speaking on that level then I would do the same to 00:31:045 (1) - 
18:44 Kocari: since it would only make sense that way
18:45 Yuii-: yeah i supposed it
18:45 Yuii-: 00:15:934 (3) -  nc
18:45 Kocari: yeah I did that
18:45 Yuii-: 00:21:488 - 20% maybe?
18:45 Yuii-: or 10%?
18:45 Kocari: yeah
18:45 Yuii-: same for 00:25:066 -
18:45 Kocari: that'll work for sure
18:46 Yuii-: and last thing is that
18:46 Yuii-: 00:36:919 (4,5) - looks quite
18:46 Yuii-: t h i c
18:46 Yuii-: c
18:46 Yuii-: oh and that you could ctlr+g 00:40:695 (5) - because pressure is put into this note instead of 00:41:115 (1) - and that kinda sounds ew
18:47 Kocari: yeah
18:47 Kocari: that shit was a huge outlier 
18:47 Kocari: lol
18:48 Yuii-: hah yea
18:48 Kocari: fucking mir
18:48 Kocari: told me to ctrl+g that garbage area
18:48 Kocari: at 00:40:695 (5) - 
18:48 Kocari: now you tell to change back
18:48 Kocari: lel
18:48 Kocari: fucking mir
18:48 Yuii-: why would he  l o l
18:49 Kocari: to have more spacing with 00:41:115 (1) - 
18:49 Kocari: otherwise it'd be too close
18:50 Yuii-: but slider leniency
18:50 Yuii-: makes 5 have more emphasis than 1
18:50 Kocari: its just the way it flowed together was what I didnt like about it
18:50 Kocari: but I ctrl+g it back and moved them around a bit to fit 
18:51 Kocari: should be ok http://puu.sh/wEhQq/6dcec8f69d.jpg
18:51 Kocari: and at 00:36:919 (4,5) - 
18:51 Kocari: http://puu.sh/wEhR2/383dd402a5.jpg
18:52 Yuii-: both are great
18:52 Yuii-: send the code to yamicchi
18:56 Kocari: aight