1. Reverberation (6,81 stars, 2345 notes)

「彷徨える屍の中　苦しみと悲しみと怒りを抱いて
痛みと共に生ける同胞に告ぐ――。」

「私は再び　此の幕を開けよう――。」

人は天空へ　愛は彼方　不確かに
あの暁が燃えて　雫は泡と散る

「蒔かれた種が芽吹き　我らの意思は流転する」

人は虚空へ　哀と濡れて　凍える花のように
あの言葉さえも　貴女の叫びと

“大地に爪を立てた怪物　緑眼が照らす死界は醜く
這いずり回るのは己が欲望か　力への渇望か”

愛すべきモノを裂かれたならば　もう此処に何も残らないから
定められた歪んだ思想は　抗わぬモノを喰らい肥えてゆく

桜が散るのは　また花を咲かす為　茜色に手を染めた　心に灯った焔

皇国の燈を享け　さあ立ち上がれ　愛す者達を　守る翼よ
緋く染まった誓いの灯を　さあ我が身が朽ち果てるまで
貴方の想いを――。

「死神が手招きしている　大いなる世界の前で
矮小な我々は容易く飲まれてしまう。」

「わかりあえぬ者共の　悲しき繰り返し――。」

「水が低きに流れるように　人もまた低きに流れていく。」

「慟哭が形を成して此処へ辿り着く――。」

災厄が…悪意が…絶望が……！

遥か彼方　生まれた　まだ見ぬ同胞の謳
私の希望は其処に
いずれ逢うだろう君へ……

“大地に爪を立てた怪物　緑眼が照らす死界は醜く
這いずり回るのは己が欲望か　力への渇望か”

愛すべきモノを絶たれたならば　もう其処に精は残らないから
宿命られた爛れた呪いは　贖わぬモノを　喰らい殺した

桜が散るのは　また花を咲かす為　茜色に手を染めた　心に灯った

皇国の燈を享け　さあ立ち上がれ　愛す者達を　守る翼よ
緋く染まった誓いの灯を　さあ我が身が朽ち果てるまで

相剋黄泉を見ず　死に物狂いで　愛す者達を　守り抜くため
赫く染まった誓いの明を　さあ此の手で掴み取るため
私の想いを――。

「嗚呼　嘲るように世界が哂っても
消えることのない意図を紡いでこの物語は続いていく
そう　これから再び此の世界が語られていく
散華の果てに　貴方達が見るものとは――。」

第三の退廃の幕が開ける――。

[ Sharuresu ] wrote:

changed some patern on discord vocal chat

irc

2017-02-19 17:04 [ Sharuresu ]: 00:01:870 (5) - 
2017-02-19 17:05 [ Sharuresu ]: 00:08:279 (4,5,6) - 
2017-02-19 17:06 [ Sharuresu ]: 00:29:756 (2) - 
2017-02-19 17:06 [ Sharuresu ]: 00:30:574 (1) - 
2017-02-19 17:12 Ponoyoshi: 02:07:665 (1) -
2017-02-19 17:12 [ Sharuresu ]: 02:08:074 (4) - 
2017-02-19 17:13 [ Sharuresu ]: 02:08:074 (4) - 
2017-02-19 17:13 [ Sharuresu ]: 02:08:620 (1) - 
2017-02-19 17:13 [ Sharuresu ]: 02:08:074 (4) - 
2017-02-19 17:14 [ Sharuresu ]: 02:08:620 (1) - 
2017-02-19 17:14 [ Sharuresu ]: 02:24:097 (1) - 
2017-02-19 17:15 Ponoyoshi: 06:00:301 (2) -
2017-02-19 17:15 Ponoyoshi: 06:08:892 (1) -
2017-02-19 17:16 Ponoyoshi: 02:42:029 (1) -
2017-02-19 17:17 [ Sharuresu ]: 02:42:029 - 
2017-02-19 17:17 [ Sharuresu ]: 02:42:301 - 
2017-02-19 17:17 [ Sharuresu ]: 03:03:301 (1,2) - 
2017-02-19 17:19 [ Sharuresu ]: 03:04:392 (1,2,3,4) - 
2017-02-19 17:20 [ Sharuresu ]: 03:05:142 - 03:04:938 (2) - 
2017-02-19 17:20 [ Sharuresu ]: 03:04:938 (2) - 
2017-02-19 17:21 Ponoyoshi: 04:26:210 (1) -
2017-02-19 17:22 [ Sharuresu ]: 04:27:301 (1) - 

1. pk y'a un countdown
2. pk ton mp3 il est 128kbps et pk il sature de partout https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/UBsPsk8.png
3. 00:01:120 (1,2,3,4,5) - pk le stream alors que tous les autres beats sont dans le repeat slider et pk changer ici et pas ailleurs
4. 00:10:120 - plus perso mais les streams ici sont assez inexpressif alors que pas mal de trucs ont lieu dans le morceau, quelque chose à la The Deceit me semble cool
5. 00:40:392 - pk pas de slider ici, c'est pareil que 00:41:483 (1) -
6. 01:16:392 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - comme avant, le visuel du stream ne colle pas vraiment avec la musique
7. 02:48:029 (1,2) - suivant les vocals, il serait mieux de faire de (1) un slider repeat, et d'ailleurs pour assouplir le flow un peu chelou il faudrait plutôt que (1) soit changé avec (2), ce qui donne ça:
   
   SPOILER

   
8. 02:53:483 (1,5) - j'ai cru voir un overlap
9. 06:31:665 (1,2) - comme avant, et même le pb de flow
10. 07:05:210 (6,1) - 🤔
11. 07:05:346 (7,1,2) - c'est quoi ce blanket
12. 07:26:210 (1,2) - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Alheak wrote:

[ma liste de pk]

1. pk y'a un countdown Oups (a)
2. pk ton mp3 il est 128kbps et pk il sature de partout https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/UBsPsk8.png Changé
3. 00:01:120 (1,2,3,4,5) - pk le stream alors que tous les autres beats sont dans le repeat slider et pk changer ici et pas ailleurs J'ai décidé de faire ça pour éviter de lancer la map directement sur un stream ce qui peut être assez désagréable, et de plus j'ai terminé le reverse au moment ou le son de cloche termine.
4. 00:10:120 - plus perso mais les streams ici sont assez inexpressif alors que pas mal de trucs ont lieu dans le morceau, quelque chose à la The Deceit me semble cool Je suis carrément d'accord, je compte changer cette partie soon!
5. 00:40:392 - pk pas de slider ici, c'est pareil que 00:41:483 (1) - Parce que j'avais envi de mettre une break, plutôt un choix personnel.
6. 01:16:392 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - comme avant, le visuel du stream ne colle pas vraiment avec la musique ça sera changé élalement soon
7. 02:48:029 (1,2) - suivant les vocals, il serait mieux de faire de (1) un slider repeat, et d'ailleurs pour assouplir le flow un peu chelou il faudrait plutôt que (1) soit changé avec (2), ce qui donne ça: Je sais pas je suis pas complétement d'accord avec ce pattern, je pense que le rythme actuel est bon et le flow ne dérange pas au niveau du gameplay, je le laisse comme ça
   
   SPOILER

   
8. 02:53:483 (1,5) - j'ai cru voir un overlap Fixed je crois
9. 06:31:665 (1,2) - comme avant, et même le pb de flow La même réponse
10. 07:05:210 (6,1) - 🤔Oula oui éfféctivement xD
11. 07:05:346 (7,1,2) - c'est quoi ce blanket De la merde
12. 07:26:210 (1,2) - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Fixed si c'était le blanket

kd pls

1. 00:43:116 (5,6,7,8) - j'aurais plutôt tendance à faire l'inverse en terme de timeline. La raison, est qu'on puisse entendre clairement un snare içi 00:43:252 - (si on enlève les notes pour écouter) et qu'içi 00:43:388 - , c'est pas réellement un triplet qui est dans la musique, mais plus du feeling.
2. 00:52:661 (2,1,2,3,4,5) - le spacing plus haut de tes circles peut laisser penser que tu cherche à suivre le jolie son de guitare qui est içi 00:52:797 - . Et si tu cherche réellement à le follow, je pense que remplacer ton slider reverse 3/4 par 2 sliders 1/4 me semble mieux.
3. 01:00:297 (2) - j'ai un peu du mal à comprendre la raison d'un tel anti jump içi. Et si tu me dis que c'est pour le blanket, je te tue :c
   Par contre, içi 01:02:206 (1,2,3,4) - ; je peux comprendre vu les différentes sonorités.
4. 01:06:297 (9) - 06:00:843 (10) - t'as miss un NC ?
5. 01:23:479 (3,4) - décale légèrement afin d'augmenter la readability ? tho, ça se lit atm
6. 01:37:115 (1,2,3) - c'est peut être juste moi, mais j'ai l'impression que le jump est plus agréable, s'il l'angle pour choper le triplet est légèrement plus aigu.
7. 01:40:388 (1,2,3,4) - j'ai un peu du mal avec ce pattern et la gestion du spacing. Le pitch de la voix est ascendant sur 01:40:388 (1,2) - ; et diminue légèrement sur 01:40:934 (3) - tandis que 01:41:206 (4) - est bien plus descendant que les autres. TLDR : comme 01:40:388 (1,2) - est ascendant, je préfère un spacing plus grand sur ces 2 sliders plutôt que 01:40:934 (3,4) - qui sont descendant.
8. 01:53:752 (2,3) - j'aurais clairement vu le slider 3 un peu plus loin afin de bien marquer le vocal plutôt strong.
9. 02:12:979 (5) - TIIIIIIIIING. btw, même si t'as pas emphasis ce strong vocal avec un jump, c'est plutôt bien réussi vu qu'il est emphasis par le fait que tu break le flow içi couplé presque anti jump.
10. 03:06:570 (1,2,3,1) - j'pense qu'içi, faut un spacing descendant, peut être cool. ça peut bien représenter le ralentissement de la musique, et le fait que l'intensité baisse aussi.
11. 03:12:025 - change moi ce hit sound stp
12. 05:30:570 (1,3) - swap NC ? J'trouve que ça passe largement mieux avec la guitare.
13. 06:05:888 (2,3,4) - c'est jolie, mais je trouve que tu nique énormément l'emphasis du vocal sur 06:06:433 (4) - .
14. 07:03:297 (1,2) - j'ai horreur des coups de sifflet. Hormis ça, tu peux NC le 2 si tu veux, pour le rendre plus visible.
15. 07:26:206 (1,2) - perso, j'aime pas trop comment tu casse le flow juste pour que le circle du slider 2 soit blanket.
16. 07:34:934 (1,1) - vu les utilisations de sliders que tu as eu précédemment, ça me parrait un peu étrange le fait que tu skip volontairements ses bites : 07:35:752 - 07:37:934 -

Kin wrote:

olala

t'as 2 combo color qui sont bien trop proche. j'ai parfois du mal à voir certain NC tant qu'il n'y a pas le chiffre (ça peut être embêtant pour certain SV change)

1. 00:43:116 (5,6,7,8) - j'aurais plutôt tendance à faire l'inverse en terme de timeline. La raison, est qu'on puisse entendre clairement un snare içi 00:43:252 - (si on enlève les notes pour écouter) et qu'içi 00:43:388 - , c'est pas réellement un triplet qui est dans la musique, mais plus du feeling. Fixed
2. 00:52:661 (2,1,2,3,4,5) - le spacing plus haut de tes circles peut laisser penser que tu cherche à suivre le jolie son de guitare qui est içi 00:52:797 - . Et si tu cherche réellement à le follow, je pense que remplacer ton slider reverse 3/4 par 2 sliders 1/4 me semble mieux. Fixed
3. 01:00:297 (2) - j'ai un peu du mal à comprendre la raison d'un tel anti jump içi. Et si tu me dis que c'est pour le blanket, je te tue :c j'était dans le coin du playfield j'avais vraiment pas d'idée autre.
   Par contre, içi 01:02:206 (1,2,3,4) - ; je peux comprendre vu les différentes sonorités.
4. 01:06:297 (9) - 06:00:843 (10) - t'as miss un NC ? éfféctivement
5. 01:23:479 (3,4) - décale légèrement afin d'augmenter la readability ? tho, ça se lit atm 00:17:479 (1) - J'ai fais la même chose ici, je pense pas que ça gène en soit vu que beaucoup de patterns de la map sont basés sur le stack et le reading, mais je change si y'a trop de soucis à ce propos
6. 01:37:115 (1,2,3) - c'est peut être juste moi, mais j'ai l'impression que le jump est plus agréable, s'il l'angle pour choper le triplet est légèrement plus aigu. J'ai pas ressenti de problèmes particulier, le changement de l'angle à était fait par rapport à la vocal.
7. 01:40:388 (1,2,3,4) - j'ai un peu du mal avec ce pattern et la gestion du spacing. Le pitch de la voix est ascendant sur 01:40:388 (1,2) - ; et diminue légèrement sur 01:40:934 (3) - tandis que 01:41:206 (4) - est bien plus descendant que les autres. TLDR : comme 01:40:388 (1,2) - est ascendant, je préfère un spacing plus grand sur ces 2 sliders plutôt que 01:40:934 (3,4) - qui sont descendant. J'ai modifié le pattern, de toute manière il n'était pas bon.
8. 01:53:752 (2,3) - j'aurais clairement vu le slider 3 un peu plus loin afin de bien marquer le vocal plutôt strong. Pas faux, j'aime.
9. 02:12:979 (5) - TIIIIIIIIING. btw, même si t'as pas emphasis ce strong vocal avec un jump, c'est plutôt bien réussi vu qu'il est emphasis par le fait que tu break le flow içi couplé presque anti jump.
10. 03:06:570 (1,2,3,1) - j'pense qu'içi, faut un spacing descendant, peut être cool. ça peut bien représenter le ralentissement de la musique, et le fait que l'intensité baisse aussi. J'ai changé le rythme du pattern qui était assez out pour le coup
11. 03:12:025 - change moi ce hit sound stp Oups
12. 05:30:570 (1,3) - swap NC ? J'trouve que ça passe largement mieux avec la guitare. Tout à fait
13. 06:05:888 (2,3,4) - c'est jolie, mais je trouve que tu nique énormément l'emphasis du vocal sur 06:06:433 (4) - . On va dire que jolie sera le bon argument, j'aime beaucoup le pattern ^^
14. 07:03:297 (1,2) - j'ai horreur des coups de sifflet. Hormis ça, tu peux NC le 2 si tu veux, pour le rendre plus visible. C'était un fail, merci
15. 07:26:206 (1,2) - perso, j'aime pas trop comment tu casse le flow juste pour que le circle du slider 2 soit blanket. Changé
16. 07:34:934 (1,1) - vu les utilisations de sliders que tu as eu précédemment, ça me parrait un peu étrange le fait que tu skip volontairements ses bites : 07:35:752 - 07:37:934 - Fixed

voila, j'pense que c'est tout
jtm bb Moi aussi tkt merci

DTM9 Nowa wrote:

I'm rusty. Let's do this anyway

inb4 alot of small stuff and opinion based suggestions

[notice
For every suggestions on this part i'll take it but not yet, i'll rework the whole section
]00:15:843 (3) - Small suggestion. You could try to keep up the similiar style with the two sliders 00:15:297 (1,2) - before it. Not necessary but it would make it little bit more connected to the other sliders Example https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7376940

00:20:752 (1,2,3) - If you want to you could try doing something to this kind of sliders/patterns. I'm kinda worried that having 2 reverses on the slider while having the next object on the completely opposite side where the slider ends makes the transition to the stream harder

00:23:411 (8,1,2) - Instead of drastically changing the stream direction here where are no significant beats you could do it on this cymbal hit 00:22:934 -

00:30:434 (7,2,4) - This spot kinda gets repetitive imo. I would personally mirror the 4 with these 00:30:843 (2,3) - thus making the pattern look more interesing while removing the repetitiveness but keeping up the structure. Example https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7375761

00:45:843 (1,1) - Don't you really want to map anything else besides these two in this beat? I can clearly hear multiple drum hits besides those two like these three 00:46:525 - 00:46:593 - 00:46:661 -
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01:19:047 (8,1,2) - Umm how do you justify the major change in the spacing here? I'm just curious since it doesn't really make sense to me Yep i'll rework this part a bit too

01:25:116 (1) - Since the pattern which is leading to this slider is this kind of 4 notes|4 notes|4 notes back and forth movement so wouldn't it be logical to have the next slider placed like the 5 is placed here 01:24:502 (4,5) - when compared to the 4 since the slider is technically the 5th note in this pattern 01:24:843 (9,10,11,12,1) - . You have done a similar choice here 01:27:025 (9,10,11,12,1) - for example and it looks great Same for this one

02:27:297 (1,1) - Minor, imo unnecessary overlap I've just keep on the last pattern, dunno why it's bad, also moved a bit the long slider after

02:33:570 (5) - Well this is theoretically mapped on a drum roll but you want to follow the vocals which is somewhat weird since you have mapped drumrolls multiple times (well pretty much on every other occasion prior to this slider) over vocals so why is this different when compared to any other vocal? 02:49:116 (1,2) - Here this kind of rapid changing of the prioritization is more visible. 02:49:115 - to 02:49:297 - has vocals but you have decided to focus on the drums over them but right after the slider ends you prioritize the vocals over the drums with this slider 02:49:661 (2) - Its just overmapped, my bad, fixed

03:28:388 (1,2) - Since the spacing between slidertail1|2 is so large when compared to the space in the timeline the 2 could be NCd so the players get some kind of alert Fixed

03:39:297 (2) - The S shape is kinda lacking here (first curve is much more emphasized than the second one) Idk, looks good for me for this one

04:33:025 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - You could consider moving the stream little bit further away from these 04:32:752 (1,2) - two since they are really (maybe even too) close to each other (alternatively you can move the two hitcircles little bit further away if you want to keep the structure here 04:34:388 (1,2,1,2,4) - )oké

04:51:979 - Here is a syhtesizer beat so it would be possible to place a hitcircle or a 1/4 slider there to represent it. On top of that the ending of the part would feel imo stronger than just with one 1/4 slider Hmmm... no.. I définitly not like that, its kinda weird to play and not very previsible

05:07:661 (1) - Sure you can keep this NCd but i don't think it's necessary why not

05:40:525 (2,3) - Is this sudden stop in the movement needed here? Imo the music doesn't really support it but if it has some kind of meaning then go ahead and use it true

05:48:297 (3,4,5) - These could be mapped as a 5 note burst Yes, true but I don't want to kill my player, also I prefer choose a rest than a free hard pattern

06:54:388 (6,1) - Minor overlap What ?

07:06:025 (2,3) - compared to 07:07:115 (2) - . I guess this goes under that i don't understand why are you changing whatever you are focusing like this. Here 07:06:025 (2,3) - instead of going for a 6/4 that would represent the vocals you go for the drums but right after that 07:07:115 (2) - you switch the focus to the vocals from the drums even though there are drums you clearly could follow woops, my bad

07:34:661 (2) - You could try manually "stacking" this one under the 1 because it looks kinda weird that the objects do a small back and forth movement over the slidertail3|1|2. If you want to do this moving the 2 to 227|y212 roughly makes it look like it's stacked with the other objects fixed

08:03:296 (1,1) - Ending the map like this is fine but it could be possible to map some nice streams and stuff over these two spinners and put one ending spinner from here 08:05:478 - to where ever you want to end it yes i'll make this, just working on the SB actually, will fix this later[/notice]

Well that's about it :> GL

Monarch wrote:

nm

00:03:297 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - not sure why this changes from the pattern originally used here 00:01:115 (1,2,3,4,5) - when 00:01:115 (1,2,3,4,5) - arguably fits the notes more Because I used a reverse on the first one to help the player to became more accurate and not be violenced by a starting 220bpm stream

00:05:479 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - same for this, 00:01:115 (1,2,3,4,5) - is much better imo Why should I change it, its a simple rythme change to have more differences between other patterns, cause this part is terribly repetiting

00:07:115 (2,1,2) - looks ugly, just so you know ???

00:08:206 (4,5) - not sure why theres a jump here A jump ?

00:08:752 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - dont understand why the ds is so high here, I would ideally half it True, gonna rework that part anyway.

00:09:843 (1) - dont know why this slider is slowed, for a more intense note should it not have a bigger ds and be faster? Why not ? I don't know the problem, the sliders can be slow or fast, simple pref for me

00:09:570 (5,1) - you shouldn't need to start this stream under the slider fade, just looks ugly

00:21:775 (10,1) - dont see a reason for this jump] 00:21:843 (1) - Jump ?????

00:22:456 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - how does this intensity vairy to 00:18:570 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - in a way that it deserves higher ds? if anything, it should be the oppositei'll remap the whole begin of the map soon that will be changed

00:42:297 (2,3,4,5,1) - dont know why this goes into the slider like this, makes it look ugly, would be perfectly fine with no jump and going the opposite way, not into the slider Agreed.

01:06:570 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - these jumps are very nice, 01:00:025 (1,2) - why have you chose to make this jump like this, doesn't look nice at all and the spacing is unjustified Fixed

01:01:388 (2,4) - space these so that 2 doesnt fade into the slider This is the approach circle, not the object and this is not causing trouble for gameplay imo

01:02:479 (4) - surly larger intensity deserves big jump? Focused on guitar not vocals

01:03:025 (8,1) - fade cross looks ugly ????

01:03:297 (1,3) - space out more for intensity Moved a bit

01:10:934 (1) - larger intensity more to x228y282 and use the intensity to change up the jump pattern? Why larger intensity ? the vocals are not changing lol

01:13:661 (4,5) - should be slightly higher reletive to 01:13:934 (6) - like 01:13:116 (1,2,3) - is Changed something.

01:15:297 (1) - intensity, spacing?

01:16:388 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - shouldn't really be using a gimick luike this since you havent done it in other places that deserve it like 00:10:116 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - which is also much earlier in the song which could allow you to do this gimick, however sincwe its such small spacing i can understand why you'd just keep it as it is


01:19:116 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - no reason for sudden massive spacing, intensity doesnt change at all

01:31:661 (1,2,3,4) - this spacing could be larger
Gonna rework this later ^^^^^^^^
01:33:297 (3,4,5) - weird flow tbh ???? no ?

01:34:934 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - spacing should be sacrificed for a little perfection if it doesnt suit the part of the song (which is more intense) Intense ? this is not even more intense than the last pattern

01:37:661 (5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5) - intense but low spacing Increased the spacing a bit

01:40:388 (1,2) - this is just absurdly small spacing mhmmm changed.

01:41:615 (2) - this is jujst absurdly large since the note isnt even intense at all k

01:42:979 (3,4,5,6,1) - this doesnt work here like it does here 01:43:934 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - because here 01:43:934 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - the jumps are fliped whereas here 01:42:570 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the jumps are in the same direction which makes the back and forward weird to play because theres no contrast like in the second set of jumps, maybe ctrl+h 01:43:388 (5,6,1) - Idk, looks good for me, don't have problems to play it

01:45:434 (4,5,6,1) - no idea why this jump is like this since theres nothing in the music to suggest this pattern is wanted Maybe vocals ? no ?

01:47:479 (3,4) - space this outttt Dude what the f.. with your spacing, the vocal just decreasing, you must listen to the song closer lmao..

01:50:616 (4,6) - 01:50:206 (1,3) - dont let fades cross just makes the playing field cluttered, its an extra you should be able to increase the spacing to give yourself space Idc about this "fades" tbh, thats just a maniac visual render useless and just limitating the editing possibilities

01:52:388 (1) - why is this spacing so low when its so intense vs other notes ???? I don't know

01:54:025 (3,4) - why is this so massive when its not intense 01:54:297 (4,5,6,7,1) - this should be small ds into 01:54:569 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - which because of the lyrics is more intense so has more ds I just changed the spacing by my feeling and it's not a problem to play, cause the music changing

02:14:888 (5,6,1) - wird flow choice Sorry ?

02:21:161 (2,4) - 02:22:116 (5) - why so low ds from previous note when its intense Cause vocals

02:24:161 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - pace it so that they dont overlap uglily Fixed

02:29:206 (7,1,2,3,1,2,3) - ok so this is for aestetics but it makes no sense since the lyrics are more intense and should be spaced more Why that should be more spaced

02:32:206 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - could do small stream jump I don't like stream jumps

02:33:843 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - i just dont think the lyrics should have such low ds when its the main part here, you've given them such small jumps when they are the notes the slider follows That was a personnal thing, And I like this pattern, I will not change it

02:40:388 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - dunno why you chose this pattern, could just be normal star jumps Why that could be a star pattern lol ?

02:42:570 (1) - could be better if this flowed up off the slider towards the top (feel more epic to play) Hmmm, why not but the flow will be horrible tbh

03:03:706 (2,3,4,5,6) - dont think a slow down section needs this big jumps Big ... it's not even big

03:53:479 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - why suddenly such massive spacing Fixed, mb

04:02:752 (1) - no sound really suggest this sould turn, really should be more like 04:00:025 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - which doesnt turn because the sound doesnt suggest a turn as it remains constant There must be a sound to change the direction of a stream ? I don't know that

04:10:934 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ds should fade into the largest ds across this streams since the instrument graduallu intensifies like this 04:21:297 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - but more gradually Its true, but thats work too, and I don't really like the gradual things

04:13:388 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - weird jump flow I don't see the problem... flow looks good for me there is no bad angles

04:15:706 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - weird small jumps when intensity is smae as in previous jumps Once again, thats subjective, I don't see a problem on that spacing..
04:26:479 (2,3,4) - since this is a triplet oput it in a triangle asnd then put 04:27:297 (1) - outside like this Fixed, thanks for the idea

04:30:843 (2,3,4,1) - ^

04:32:752 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6) - overlap is ugly Fixed

04:38:479 (2,3,5) - ^

04:43:252 (2,4) - notes shouldn't be hidden and ds should be larger for intensity

04:49:116 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - if ur gonna do this high spacing here that you need to adjust spacing in opther parts of the map off of how intense this part is, if a part is less intense but has the same spacing as here then it doesnt make sense I want to make a EPIC end of the part just before the epicness next part

05:32:752 (1,2) - rly pls be careful cus u have such small spacing here in one of the most intense parts opf the map Fxided

05:40:661 (3,4,5,1) - same here arleady fixed

05:44:070 (4,5,6,7,1) - very weird flow fixed

05:46:797 (1,2) - move away, overlasp not needed I don't want to change that, cause the reste of the patterns stacked on it will be broken

05:48:025 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - please space jumps out to avoid overlaps, its so intense and its so centred for some reason Increased a bit

06:07:933 (1,4) - ugly overlap ITS A STACK

06:07:115 (6,7,8) - ugly jumps that could be sapced out much better 06:07:661 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - same here this deserves big spaced jumps not return ing jumps Subjective ?

06:31:661 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - really doesnt need to be connected like this, space it out so that they dont touch Can't it will be out of screen and this is not even a problem

07:04:661 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - just...ugly but idk how you could do it much betetr without increasing spacing. tbh i would stack jumps like this Subjective #2

1/3 sections are best parts of the map imo, others could use some work Thanks but I have to tell about your mod, most of suggestions are really subjectif and not really justified... I'm not really happy about that mod, I prefer less and well justified with a proposition of solving than a big wall of strange things, sorry.

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Linada wrote:

04:49:116 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
fils de pute

Ryuusei Aika wrote:

from queue

Reverberation
00:39:570 (5) - change this into another 1/4 stream would be better Used A 1/2 here to rest the player a bit, I don't think a stream can be really ergonomic to play imo
03:02:206 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - a little weird here, put 6 on the line of 1~5 would be better Fixed
04:27:297 (1,2,3) - how about just make some still single tap like 04:29:479 (1,2,3) - ? the sound here is nearly the same and now those 3 note seems not form any pattern Changed a bit
04:31:661 (1,2,3) - ^
04:40:116 (4) - ctrl+g would be cool and also it can make them with 04:39:297 (1,2) - become an ensemble True
04:49:116 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this increasing ds is not quite well, i supposed to reduce them just near 2.2~2.4 cuz here is not like 05:14:206 I just want to make something harder than the rest cause it's a final before a break(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - , here has almost no tune and drum beat change Explain I don't know
06:33:843 (1,2,3,4,5) - compared with other parts, those sliders looks quite messy... maybe you can try to rearrange them Its look good for me, simply suggestive.
06:36:025 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
07:20:070 (2,3) - blanket? This is not a blanket ^^

mmm...... for me the first part of 1/6 is good, but the second one seems a little messy. try to make sliders more regular like what you do in the first 1/6 part would be better. 2 ways differents, for me the both are good

gl

TequilaWolf wrote:

mod

Reverberation-

offset is +10ms to me

00:41:206 (2,3) - consider changing to two 1/4 sliders instead oké
00:44:479 (7,8,9,10,1) - use same spacing as 00:43:661 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:54:297 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - consider tiny spacing for initial 4->7 stream Changed with a reverse
01:58:184 (2,3,4,5) - can throw people off thinking it's 1/3 Why ? there's no way to see a 1/3 there, even the song never use 1/3 before 02:45:843 (1) - also its not a problem imo
02:16:388 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - should go from small->big not the other way round Changed the pattern
02:45:843 (1) - onwards, consider 0.75x SV to make the sliders and repeaters look better I like this SV :/ i'll not change this
03:54:025 (6,7) - a little confusing to read, try stacking 7 on 6 or moving 7 further away than 5->6 Moved the 7
04:11:956 (16,1) - unnecessary 1/4 jump, your turning in stream is enough for emphasis Nah this stream is the best of the map, its not really a jump just a buff of spacing caused of the highest point of the guitar, also I'll not change this one cause its totally playable and fitting with the song.
04:27:297 (1) - would just stack with 2 and 3 like what you did 04:29:479 (1,2,3) - Changed the whole section
04:32:070 (2,3) - would stack these on 1 This is used to prevent the player of changing next patterns
05:13:661 (1) - follow what you did here? 05:12:570 (1,2) - use two instead Basically it was 2 but its so easy to sliderbreak and confusing with rythm and also this reverse is used to recovery
07:43:864 (2) - would ctrl+g for consistency ok !

nothing real, clean map.

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Codyy wrote:

For the start, i think instead of a reverse slider, it should be a burst into a reverse slider. The reason I've used a repeat slider here is to help the player to be more accurate with the next streams, because I think start the map directly on a stream can be difficult to accurate correctly.

I also think the spacing should be a little bit more after the scream section and there be a variety of 3-5bursts into reverse sliders. This should be better with timestamp D:, to link a timestamp just go into editor, copy the object you want to timestamp and paste it in a textbox (forum, pm etc...)

There's not much i can say for the rest of the map because it all seems great so far to me

Sorry im a garbage modder and i dont know how to timestamp lol. Suggestions might help a bit (i think).

Broly wrote:

04:51:570 (2) - I would make this into a 1/2 slider imo, felt a little awkward when I played it, maybe it's just me. I'm not specially fine to place a 1/2 here, could be too long, I prefer that one who's more direct
05:07:661 (11) - Shouldn't this be NC'ed? I don't like to NC streams end ^^'
08:02:682 (9) - ^ Maybe here too? Ok for that one

I'm not really a good modder so feel free to object to any of these these but this map is pretty good.

pkk wrote:

Offset should be 55 (+30) if you're still working on this

DominiGG wrote:

04:52:418 (1) - the best part
04:52:418 (1,2) - not better to stack it?
(sorry for that i didnt edit my lastest answer im dumb)

Xantaria wrote:

I feel like the section starting at 4:18 should definitely be a stream, stamina is completely fine at this part my hands are actually begging to stream there

Ponoyoshi wrote:

Xantaria wrote:

I feel like the section starting at 4:18 should definitely be a stream, stamina is completely fine at this part my hands are actually begging to stream there

Why not, but I don't really want to make this tbh ^^' it's just adding free difficulty for no real reason imo

Monstrata wrote:

Reverberation

00:05:509 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - I feel like this should be a 1/4 repeat trill, its the same as 00:01:145 (1) - . Keep the mapping consistent? It feels a bit overmapped as streams anyways since the 1/4's kind of cut out halfway and gradually fade back in. Changed
00:18:055 (3,4) - These repeats aren't visible. Not rankable imo. Fixed
00:33:873 (1,2,3,4,5) - This rhythm just doesn't fit imo. I can't hear 3/2 rhythm emphasis asnywhere xP. Changed
00:51:191 (1,2) - I would do a kickslider instead. Helps lead into the stream better. Changed the part added more kicksliders
01:06:191 (8) - Should be stacked i think? Fixed
01:23:509 (3,4) - Same as earlier about the repeats. Fixed
01:46:964 (1,2) - Blanket pls cuz 3+4 is blanketted Fixed
01:57:736 (1,2) - Don't do this pls xP start the stream on the white tick, especially if you're going to space them this far apart. Ok ok
04:10:964 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - Nice Thanks !
04:27:327 (1,2,3) - Felt really undermapped imo. 04:29:918 (2,3) - etc... Like the second iteration is higher pitched and more stressed. I feel using simpler patterns is the wrong approach. I really have no idea how to make this less undermapped... If you have any idea to propose, feel free
04:43:418 (3,4) - There's a distinct 5-plet here if you wanna map it instead. It's different from the two circles earlier. Changed
05:01:145 - The drums double here so imo the rhythm choice here is too simple xP. I would consider mapping more circle jumps. You shouldn't simplfy rhythm here too to map the vocals, though you could use jumps instead to emphasize vocals while maintaining a denser rhythm. Changed
05:18:600 - Actually, i think these are 1/3's? lol. Guitar anyways. Fixed for the whole part
05:57:736 (5) - NC Ye
06:02:100 (5,1) - Swap NC's Ye
06:06:463 (4) - NC Ye
06:55:691 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is a real mess xP. Fixed lol
08:01:076 (1,2) - Doesn't reflect the song well cuz the drum ro0ll comes on 08:01:485 - . Changed, I don't know if its fine x.x

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Depending on what you fix, I can potentially push this forward. Call me back when you're ready and we'll see.

Okinami wrote:

a quick little mod because i really want to see this map ranked

feel free to deny

[Reverberation]
00:03:873 (1) - maybe no NC here? seems kinda pointless yep
00:20:236 (3,3) - possibly NC these, for consistency (these types of repeat sliders were their own combos) true
00:25:691 (6) - perhaps map this as a triple, leave the other repeat be It was a triple, but I just choose to remove this one cause finger control is really hard after that triple 00:25:282 (2,3,4) -
00:27:327 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hmm, i think this grid needs some work. maybe tweaking the ratios a little? This is not a grid this is a star into a triangle
00:36:055 - i really like this stream Thanks (>v<)/ !!
00:39:327 (1,2,3,4) - this is a nice idea but its a little much, maybe inch it a bit closer to the slider Why not
00:48:055 (1) - a bit of a sharp turn. if you really cant make it look any fatter, disregard Mhmmm, thats look pretty ok for me, maybe if more ppl want to change that i'll do, but seems ok for me
00:52:964 (4,5,6,7,8) - this is a pretty big snap... Reduced a bit
01:37:827 (7) - overmapped? Slider end is overmapped, but thats not a big problem for playing, also I put that one for emphasis the vocals and imo it's fair
01:47:781 (4) - this spacing is pretty inconsistent, its kinda contradictory with the hype you were building with the previous sliders Totally true, but I like the visuals x.x cause I placed the same pattern here 01:46:964 (1,2) - just symetrics :p
01:52:282 (5) - ctrl+g for flow? Changed the pattern !
02:13:009 (5,1) - looks like 1/4th spacing imo Added more spacing
03:04:964 (2,3) - should be a pair of jumps aswell, feels undermapped I'm not totally agreed for that, cause the song just fading out the intensity and for me its better to make sliders here instead of jumps, like this part 07:04:691 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - I putted jumps cause this is not before a break and the intensity isn't the same at all
03:44:373 - undermapped a red tick here, i feel as though it can be mapped Fixed
04:03:327 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - i like Thank you ♥
04:21:327 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - this feels like it escalates really quickly, should be more gradual, dunno I like it, idk
04:21:941 (1) - have this end on the red tick? its just uncool to have a circle that quickly at such a bpm Why not
04:49:146 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - feels kinda boring, inconsistent with the other jumps Already nerfed and explain that choice, this is volontary a diff spike to emphasis the next part of the song, like a reward for the player who fc that jump
05:10:964 (1,2) - these are both different sliders, copy paste instead They're the sames
05:13:691 (9) - really fast, looks weird since stream was low spacing Reduced sv
05:27:055 (9) - ^ ok
06:00:873 (1) - pointless NC? i can see the thought behind it though I prefer change the color for that low sv slider
06:41:327 (6) - would look better imo if you ctrl+g and ctrl+h it, but keep in the same place Spacing will be too large
08:01:895 (8) - really difficult to read, but i guess that doesnt matter because its a slider True but its okay I think, can't really make it better :/
08:04:894 (1,2) - switch NC, remove it on the last note? oki !

amazing map, dude. cant wait to see it be your second ranked Thanks bro !

AyanokoRin wrote:

05:13:145 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - isn't that 1/3

Yes, this is 1/3 guitar, but like I said... it was intentional cause switching a lot 1/3 to 1/4th etc etc can be really hard to read and play and I prefer choose a easier way to map this cause the drums are 1/2 so I think this is possible !




[color=#0000FF]And thanks for the other ones for the support ! /

Monstrata wrote:

Bubbled!

HighTec wrote:

petition to change bg on the map cuz it's not related to touhou!

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HighTec wrote:

petition to change bg on the map cuz it's not related to touhou!

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