Kobaryo - Dotabata Animation [feat. t+pazolite] [OsuMania]

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Topic Starter
Sandalphon
thank u kfc
Maxus
Sorry i forgot this orz gbf is love

[Easy]
00:39:231 (39231|0) - Think it's better to be at col 3 to make a complete stair for more intuitive flow.
01:38:770 - the pattern here is harder than normal diff, is this intentional?
01:57:231 - I think it's better if you add note for finish here, since you usually consistent with it. in that case, put it into col 1 and move 01:57:462 (117462|0) - to col 2.
02:34:962 (154962|3) - Since col 3 is more rarely used, move this note to col 3 will make it more balance.

[Normal]
01:38:770 - Will suggest to make this part more denser like what you did in easy diff.
02:18:346 (138346|2) - better move this to col 1 to make your pattern be more consistent with 00:23:539 (23539|3,23885|3) - , since it seemed your pattern revolving some sort of col 1 / col 4 jack.

[Soul's Hyper]
Disclaimer: Since this song is repeating, if i suggest to fix something and you agree, make sure to fix on the second part as well.

00:05:885 (5885|0,6000|3) - Prefer if you Ctrl+H rotate these notes so it will give more natural flow.
00:09:577 (9577|3,9808|2,9923|1,10039|0) - Try having 3-4-1-2 instead, it will form mini trill which emphasize the consistent drum better.
00:19:846 - Add note for clap here? since you seemed to be consistent with the approach double for clap except this part didn't get it.
00:24:808 (24808|0) - better if you continue the LN...
00:53:193 (53193|1,53308|0,53423|1) - Kinda felt this pattern to be anti-flow. 1-2-1 actually connect the pattern with stair LN at 00:53:654 - more intuitively.
01:40:500 (100500|1) - I now this is still part of long stream, but its actually nice place to give break cause the drum actually suddenly dissapear. and continue the stream with that music "break" doesn't express it properly.
02:04:154 - Same suggestion as 00:09:577 -

[Hard]
02:59:308 - I felt the chord is a bit too much (2 notes + 1 LN) here given the synth emphasis isn't actually that strong especially in hard diff, so i will suggest to reduce one note for each of the chordnote.

[Insane]
01:41:539 - think you can emphasize the burst with LN a bit better by https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9120378

[Wonki's Extra]
00:09:346 (9346|1,9462|2) - Better if you switch column here, making jack between 00:09:462 - and 00:09:577 - is better as they are the same drum sound. it'd be more consistent with your overall placement after this too as you sought for more jack there.
00:10:846 - Not sure if col 4 stacks are your intention / not, but if not it's better for you to Ctrl+H between 00:10:846 (10846|3,10962|0,11077|3) -
00:31:616 (31616|1,31731|2,31846|3,31962|2) - Make this 4-3-2-4? it will follow pitch more accurately.
01:43:308 (103308|3) - are you sure this is 1/6? i know what sound you try to follow, i just wanna make sure.

[Speedcore!!]
00:38:308 (38308|0) - Better in col 3 imo, its the same drum that you made jack at 00:39:000 (39000|2,39000|1,39116|2,39116|1) -
01:11:885 - I think this part can be interpreted the pitch more accurately like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9120317
01:31:154 - Double note here coz same vocal as 01:30:923 - ?

Nice one, call me back if you already done!
Wonki

Maxus wrote:

Sorry i forgot this orz gbf is love

[Wonki's Extra]
00:09:346 (9346|1,9462|2) - Better if you switch column here, making jack between 00:09:462 - and 00:09:577 - is better as they are the same drum sound. it'd be more consistent with your overall placement after this too as you sought for more jack there.
00:10:846 - Not sure if col 4 stacks are your intention / not, but if not it's better for you to Ctrl+H between 00:10:846 (10846|3,10962|0,11077|3) -
00:31:616 (31616|1,31731|2,31846|3,31962|2) - Make this 4-3-2-4? it will follow pitch more accurately.
01:43:308 (103308|3) - are you sure this is 1/6? i know what sound you try to follow, i just wanna make sure. // I think it's 1/8. 01:43:298 (103298|3,103529|3) - ,01:46:991 (106991|0,107221|0) -


Nice one, call me back if you already done!
All fixed
Wonki
About snap

01:43:298 - 01:43:529 - 01:46:991 - 01:47:221 - 01:50:683 - 01:50:914 - 01:54:375 - 01:54:606 -

I think 1/8 is correct
Topic Starter
Sandalphon

Maxus wrote:

Sorry i forgot this orz gbf is love

[Easy]
00:39:231 (39231|0) - Think it's better to be at col 3 to make a complete stair for more intuitive flow.
01:38:770 - the pattern here is harder than normal diff, is this intentional?
01:57:231 - I think it's better if you add note for finish here, since you usually consistent with it. in that case, put it into col 1 and move 01:57:462 (117462|0) - to col 2.
02:34:962 (154962|3) - Since col 3 is more rarely used, move this note to col 3 will make it more balance.

[Normal]
01:38:770 - Will suggest to make this part more denser like what you did in easy diff.
02:18:346 (138346|2) - better move this to col 1 to make your pattern be more consistent with 00:23:539 (23539|3,23885|3) - , since it seemed your pattern revolving some sort of col 1 / col 4 jack.


[Hard]
02:59:308 - I felt the chord is a bit too much (2 notes + 1 LN) here given the synth emphasis isn't actually that strong especially in hard diff, so i will suggest to reduce one note for each of the chordnote.

[Insane]
01:41:539 - think you can emphasize the burst with LN a bit better by https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9120378


[Speedcore!!]
00:38:308 (38308|0) - Better in col 3 imo, its the same drum that you made jack at 00:39:000 (39000|2,39000|1,39116|2,39116|1) - //jack 1 note is enough imo, unlike the second one has cymbal in it so i use double jacks
01:11:885 - I think this part can be interpreted the pitch more accurately like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9120317 //kinda weird to jack this note 00:38:308 (38308|0) - and i want to keep the overall intensity low since its the clam part of the song, one jack should be fine
01:31:154 - Double note here coz same vocal as 01:30:923 - ?

Nice one, call me back if you already done!
no reply means fix

Wonki wrote:

About snap

01:43:298 - 01:43:529 - 01:46:991 - 01:47:221 - 01:50:683 - 01:50:914 - 01:54:375 - 01:54:606 -

I think 1/8 is correct
about the snap, I will say the correct snap is 1/8, but i will keep 1/2 for my diff
They are not 1/2 for sure (which is the current snap of all my diff), anyone can notice that from editor, but the reason why i'm keeping the "wrong snap" is for the playability, since its only 1/8 earlier, its hard to tell the difference only thru playing.


And yea, updated my and Wonki's diff, thank you for checking
Soul Evans

Maxus wrote:

[Soul's Hyper]
Disclaimer: Since this song is repeating, if i suggest to fix something and you agree, make sure to fix on the second part as well.

00:05:885 (5885|0,6000|3) - Prefer if you Ctrl+H rotate these notes so it will give more natural flow.want to keep this because of the pitch and i want to keep it consistent for the chart
00:09:577 (9577|3,9808|2,9923|1,10039|0) - Try having 3-4-1-2 instead, it will form mini trill which emphasize the consistent drum better.oh that's pretty good of a suggestion you did there, ok
00:19:846 - Add note for clap here? since you seemed to be consistent with the approach double for clap except this part didn't get it. must have missed it
00:24:808 (24808|0) - better if you continue the LN...understandable, although i don't remember doing it, however it's been long since i made this diff
00:53:193 (53193|1,53308|0,53423|1) - Kinda felt this pattern to be anti-flow. 1-2-1 actually connect the pattern with stair LN at 00:53:654 - more intuitively.ok
01:40:500 (100500|1) - I now this is still part of long stream, but its actually nice place to give break cause the drum actually suddenly dissapear. and continue the stream with that music "break" doesn't express it properly.removed it
02:04:154 - Same suggestion as 00:09:577 - did that
Thank you for the mod!

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192,192,161539,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,161654,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,161770,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,161885,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,162000,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,162116,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,162231,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,162346,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,162693,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,162808,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,162923,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,163154,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,163385,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,163385,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,163500,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,163616,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,163731,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,163846,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,163962,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,164077,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,164193,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,164423,128,2,164539:0:0:0:0:
448,192,164423,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,164539,128,2,164654:0:0:0:0:
64,192,164654,128,2,164770:0:0:0:0:
320,192,164770,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,164770,128,0,165000:0:0:0:0:
64,192,165000,128,2,165231:0:0:0:0:
192,192,165000,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,165231,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,165231,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,165346,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,165462,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,165577,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,165693,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,165693,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,165808,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,165923,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,166039,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,166154,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,166154,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,166270,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,166385,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,166500,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,166616,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,166616,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,166731,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,166846,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,166962,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,167077,128,8,167308:0:0:0:0:
448,192,167077,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,167077,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,167308,128,8,167539:0:0:0:0:
320,192,167308,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,167539,128,8,167885:0:0:0:0:
320,192,167654,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,167770,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,167885,1,4,0:0:0:0:
320,192,167885,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,168116,128,0,168231:0:0:0:0:
320,192,168231,128,0,168346:0:0:0:0:
448,192,168346,128,0,168462:0:0:0:0:
64,192,168462,128,0,168577:0:0:0:0:
192,192,168577,128,0,168693:0:0:0:0:
320,192,168693,128,0,168808:0:0:0:0:
448,192,168808,128,0,168923:0:0:0:0:
64,192,168923,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,168923,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,169154,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,169270,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,169385,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,169616,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,169731,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,169846,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,169962,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,170193,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,170308,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,170308,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,170539,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,170654,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,170770,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,171000,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,171116,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,171231,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,171462,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,171577,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,171693,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,171808,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,172039,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,172154,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,172154,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,172385,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,172500,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,172616,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,172846,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,172962,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,173077,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,173308,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,173423,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,173539,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,173654,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,173885,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,174000,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,174000,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,174231,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,174346,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,174462,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,174693,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,174808,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,174923,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,175154,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,175385,128,0,175846:0:0:0:0:
64,192,175846,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,175846,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,176308,128,2,176539:0:0:0:0:
192,192,176308,1,4,0:0:0:0:
320,192,176539,128,0,176770:0:0:0:0:
192,192,176770,128,0,177000:0:0:0:0:
448,192,177000,128,0,177231:0:0:0:0:
64,192,177231,128,0,177462:0:0:0:0:
320,192,177462,128,0,177693:0:0:0:0:
448,192,177693,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,177808,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,177866,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,177923,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,178154,128,4,178385:0:0:0:0:
192,192,178154,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,178385,128,0,178616:0:0:0:0:
192,192,178616,128,0,178846:0:0:0:0:
448,192,178846,128,0,179077:0:0:0:0:
64,192,179077,128,0,179308:0:0:0:0:
448,192,179308,128,0,179423:0:0:0:0:
192,192,179539,128,0,179654:0:0:0:0:
320,192,179770,128,0,179885:0:0:0:0:
448,192,180000,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,180000,128,4,180231:0:0:0:0:
320,192,180231,128,0,180462:0:0:0:0:
192,192,180462,128,0,180693:0:0:0:0:
448,192,180693,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,180923,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,180923,128,4,181154:0:0:0:0:
448,192,181154,128,0,181385:0:0:0:0:
192,192,181385,128,0,181616:0:0:0:0:
320,192,181616,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,181846,128,2,182077:0:0:0:0:
448,192,181846,1,4,0:0:0:0:
320,192,182077,128,0,182308:0:0:0:0:
192,192,182308,128,2,182539:0:0:0:0:
64,192,182308,1,4,0:0:0:0:
448,192,182539,128,0,182770:0:0:0:0:
320,192,182770,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,182885,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,183000,128,0,183231:0:0:0:0:
448,192,183231,128,0,183462:0:0:0:0:
64,192,183462,1,4,0:0:0:0:
320,192,183462,128,0,183923:0:0:0:0:
Topic Starter
Sandalphon
Updated (also fixed few missing HS
Fresh Chicken
Rebub, good luck!
Topic Starter
Sandalphon
Thank u again
(fixed the snap in Insane Extra and SPEEDCORE!!
Maxus
everything's now fine, good luck!
Melt3dCheeze
[Speedcore!!]
01:20:308 (80308|3) -
Needs more chord jacks if that makes sense. The song intensity starts to pick up and it needs to be different from the lighter sections of the song, so that might warrant for increased difficulty.

01:38:770 (98770|3) - to 01:41:366 (101366|3) -
The whole section needs to be remapped, you're not listening to the music. It's not straight 1/4 jumpstream it's a lot more intricate than that. Patterning shouldn't be kept in overlapping rolls, add some trills or something. It's a build up to that section so you're expecting it to be harder.

01:42:462 (102462|0,102462|3,102462|0,102462|1) -
This section is void, LN + rice would suffice. Yet again being omissive to the music.

Good luck
-mint-
oh yeah and on top of what melted cheese said, some of the layering is weird too
also, if you are going to make a pp map, you cant justify it by making the "easier" patterns uncomfortable, that's not very fair imo
please consider these changes

00:26:770 (26770|1,26770|0,26770|3) - and 00:30:462 (30462|1,30462|0,30462|3) - should be doubles, theres no reason as to why they should be layered more heavily than 00:25:731 or the same as 00:28:616 (which has a unique sound)
00:31:846 (31846|1,31846|0,31962|3,31962|2,32077|3,32077|2,32193|0,32193|1) - this doesnt really make sense, the layering is fine but the positioning doesnt fit the music, would suggest changing up a few note positions - the fastest way would be to move 00:32:077 (32077|3) - to the second column seeing as the notes in the synth go B - E - G# - B (to allow the notes corresponding to B to be the same columns and E and G# having different columns)
00:33:462 (33462|3,33462|0) - 00:35:308 (35308|2,35308|3) - why not triple?

based on from what i see in the first kiai i assume that cymbal = quad, kick drum = jump or hand when emphasized, seems familiar (galaxy collapse) - 00:40:962 (40962|0,40962|1) - and 00:44:654 (44654|1,44654|2) - and 00:46:500 (46500|2,46500|1) - and 00:42:808 (42808|0,42808|1) - have no kick drum, consider reducing to single
00:43:212 (43212|3,43270|2) - and 00:46:673 (46673|1,46731|2,46789|3) - change to doubles (because you have patterns like 00:48:693 (48693|3,48693|0,48750|1,48750|2,48808|0,48808|3,48866|1,48866|2,48923|0,48923|3) - that are basically the same sound)

00:48:116 (48116|2,48116|3,48231|3,48346|3,48462|3,48462|2,48577|2,48693|3,48750|2,48808|3,48866|2,48923|3) - extremely uncomfortable for the right hand. 00:48:231 (48231|0,48231|3,48231|1,48346|3,48346|1,48346|0) - these two chords dont even have the same pitch in the melody, and 00:48:693 (48693|3,48693|0,48750|1,48750|2,48808|0,48808|3,48866|1,48866|2,48923|0,48923|3) - this would normally be fine (galaxy collapse) but because of the surrounding patterns, it is slightly uncomfortable (unless i'm just bad) - consider switching to regular jumptrill

00:50:077 (50077|3,50077|2,50077|0,50193|2,50193|0,50193|3) - dont even have the same pitch in the melody

00:50:712 (50712|3,50770|3) - remove one of these notes

00:52:673 (52673|0,52904|0) - there isnt even any sound here. remove these and 00:52:731 (52731|3,52731|2,52789|1,52789|0,52846|2,52846|3) - Ctrl+H this

01:08:193 (68193|0,68308|0) - why stack here? change; 01:04:500 (64500|3,64616|3) - this one is fine because the mallet perc. (xylophone?) has the same sound

also, there are sounds at 01:02:308 and 01:03:231 etc. throughout the section

01:17:539 (77539|0,77539|3,77539|2) - no reason for this to be triple, change to double
01:19:385 (79385|1,79385|0,79385|3) - ^

01:20:077 (80077|2,80077|1) - the "up" in "shut up" comes a bit before this, just remove these notes

01:20:308 - more chords/doubles (see post above)

01:21:923 (81923|3,81923|2,81923|0) - and 01:23:539 (83539|1,83539|0,83539|3,83770|3,83770|1,83770|0) - no strong kick drum, change to double
note at 01:23:885 not mapped

01:27:173 (87173|0,87231|0) - minijack at this speed? no thanks

01:38:770 - the music here is a lot more complicated than a planet shaper jumpstream, consider mapping the sharp speedcore sounds with 1/8 snap

01:42:462 - really boring, consider mapping the other sounds

02:21:231 (141231|1,141231|0,141231|3) - and 02:24:923 (144923|3,144923|1,144923|0) - same problem as before, should be double
02:26:308 (146308|3,146308|2,146423|0,146423|1,146539|1,146539|0,146654|2,146654|3) - same problem as before

for second kiai refer to first kiai mod
02:45:231 - just maintain the jumptrill until the 1/8

02:47:135 (167135|3,167366|3,167596|3) - no sound, delete and 02:47:193 (167193|1,167193|0,167250|2,167250|3,167308|1,167308|0,167654|1,167654|0,167712|2,167712|3,167770|0,167770|1) - Ctrl+H this pattern
02:48:462 (168462|3,168462|2) - should be single (nothing unique about this)
Raveille
A really good example of ghost note mapping in this map is the section Melt3dCheeze pointed out.

01:38:770 (98770|3) - to 01:41:366 (101366|3) -
The whole section needs to be remapped, you're not listening to the music. It's not straight 1/4 jumpstream it's a lot more intricate than that. Patterning shouldn't be kept in overlapping rolls, add some trills or something. It's a build up to that section so you're expecting it to be harder.
This is your current pattern at 01:39:693 - to 01:40:385 - :


This is my fixed pattern at the same timestamps:


Listen to the portions at 25% and you can tell the difference.

Another point is that 01:40:500 - should be a single note because it isn't a drum
Topic Starter
Sandalphon

Melt3dCheeze wrote:

[Speedcore!!]
01:20:308 (80308|3) -
Needs more chord jacks if that makes sense. The song intensity starts to pick up and it needs to be different from the lighter sections of the song, so that might warrant for increased difficulty. //prefer to keep the current pattern as overall intensity is already high enough

01:38:770 (98770|3) - to 01:41:366 (101366|3) -
The whole section needs to be remapped, you're not listening to the music. It's not straight 1/4 jumpstream it's a lot more intricate than that. Patterning shouldn't be kept in overlapping rolls, add some trills or something. It's a build up to that section so you're expecting it to be harder.//just because i didnt map the 1/8 doesnt mean i'm not listening to the music

01:42:462 (102462|0,102462|3,102462|0,102462|1) -
This section is void, LN + rice would suffice. Yet again being omissive to the music. // idont see how this could be a problem, if you want to do LN pattern then go ahead and do it when you map your own map but i would like to keep my current

Good luck i dont need that

qqqant wrote:

oh yeah and on top of what melted cheese said, some of the layering is weird too
also, if you are going to make a pp map, you cant justify it by making the "easier" patterns uncomfortable, that's not very fair imo
please consider these changes //where you get this idea of me want to do pp map

00:26:770 (26770|1,26770|0,26770|3) - and 00:30:462 (30462|1,30462|0,30462|3) - should be doubles, theres no reason as to why they should be layered more heavily than 00:25:731 or the same as 00:28:616 (which has a unique sound)
// there is a reason, its the first sound of the main sound as i want to give more impact by using triple
00:31:846 (31846|1,31846|0,31962|3,31962|2,32077|3,32077|2,32193|0,32193|1) - this doesnt really make sense, the layering is fine but the positioning doesnt fit the music, would suggest changing up a few note positions - the fastest way would be to move
//using double jack because i want to build up the intensity as the rhythm goes up. i dont see how moving one note will make a huge different
00:32:077 (32077|3) - to the second column seeing as the notes in the synth go B - E - G# - B (to allow the notes corresponding to B to be the same columns and E and G# having different columns)
00:33:462 (33462|3,33462|0) - 00:35:308 (35308|2,35308|3) - why not triple? // because i decided not to, only the last cymbal is using triple

based on from what i see in the first kiai i assume that cymbal = quad, kick drum = jump or hand when emphasized, seems familiar (galaxy collapse) //wrong in the first place lmao
- 00:40:962 (40962|0,40962|1) - and 00:44:654 (44654|1,44654|2) - and 00:46:500 (46500|2,46500|1) - and 00:42:808 (42808|0,42808|1) - have no kick drum, consider reducing to single //main sound thank you
00:43:212 (43212|3,43270|2) - and 00:46:673 (46673|1,46731|2,46789|3) - change to doubles (because you have patterns like 00:48:693 (48693|3,48693|0,48750|1,48750|2,48808|0,48808|3,48866|1,48866|2,48923|0,48923|3) - that are basically the same sound) //so have you consider the intensity of each section? the first one is not trills because the intensity is different

00:48:116 (48116|2,48116|3,48231|3,48346|3,48462|3,48462|2,48577|2,48693|3,48750|2,48808|3,48866|2,48923|3) - extremely uncomfortable for the right hand.// left hand 11notes, right hand 12 notes, what can i say
00:48:231 (48231|0,48231|3,48231|1,48346|3,48346|1,48346|0) - these two chords dont even have the same pitch in the melody,
//using same column because the different pitch at 00:48:346 (48346|1,48346|0,48346|3,48462|3,48462|2,48462|0) - is much more noticeable
and 00:48:693 (48693|3,48693|0,48750|1,48750|2,48808|0,48808|3,48866|1,48866|2,48923|0,48923|3) - this would normally be fine (galaxy collapse) but because of the surrounding patterns, it is slightly uncomfortable (unless i'm just bad) - consider switching to regular jumptrill //so are you saying (12)(34) is the only trill we can do now?

00:50:077 (50077|3,50077|2,50077|0,50193|2,50193|0,50193|3) - dont even have the same pitch in the melody //like my previous explanation

00:50:712 (50712|3,50770|3) - remove one of these notes if you cant give a reason why should i even fix it

00:52:673 (52673|0,52904|0) - there isnt even any sound here. remove these and 00:52:731 (52731|3,52731|2,52789|1,52789|0,52846|2,52846|3) - Ctrl+H this //hihat

01:08:193 (68193|0,68308|0) - why stack here? change; 01:04:500 (64500|3,64616|3) - this one is fine because the mallet perc. (xylophone?) has the same sound//to show the rhythm is changing

also, there are sounds at 01:02:308 and 01:03:231 etc. throughout the section //because i'm focusing on the main sound (which is the LN) isnt that obvious

01:17:539 (77539|0,77539|3,77539|2) - no reason for this to be triple, change to double
01:19:385 (79385|1,79385|0,79385|3) - ^ first sound of the main sound

01:20:077 (80077|2,80077|1) - the "up" in "shut up" comes a bit before this, just remove these notes "a bit before" you cant even tell the snap, plus its vocal, move it few ms earlier wouldnt effect anything

01:20:308 - more chords/doubles (see post above)

01:21:923 (81923|3,81923|2,81923|0) - and 01:23:539 (83539|1,83539|0,83539|3,83770|3,83770|1,83770|0) - no strong kick drum, change to double //pls stop assuming that i'm using triple for kick drum like i cant tell the difference, i'm using it for the main sound
note at 01:23:885 not mapped //leave this part empty so i can emphasize the cymbal sound 01:24:000 - more

01:27:173 (87173|0,87231|0) - minijack at this speed? no thanks//if you cant play doesnt mean other cant. a lots of BPM higher than 250 also used this kinda of jack

01:38:770 - the music here is a lot more complicated than a planet shaper jumpstream, consider mapping the sharp speedcore sounds with 1/8 snap //i cant do 260 jack but i can do 260 jumpstream which mixed with 1/8. Nice logic

01:42:462 - really boring, consider mapping the other sounds //not boring, consider go map your own version of this song

02:21:231 (141231|1,141231|0,141231|3) - and 02:24:923 (144923|3,144923|1,144923|0) - same problem as before, should be double same explantion as before, not gonna fix
02:26:308 (146308|3,146308|2,146423|0,146423|1,146539|1,146539|0,146654|2,146654|3) - same problem as before //^

for second kiai refer to first kiai mod
02:45:231 - just maintain the jumptrill until the 1/8 //why should i, better give a reason next time if you want to convince someone

02:47:135 (167135|3,167366|3,167596|3) - no sound, delete and 02:47:193 (167193|1,167193|0,167250|2,167250|3,167308|1,167308|0,167654|1,167654|0,167712|2,167712|3,167770|0,167770|1) - Ctrl+H this pattern // hihat like my previous explanation
02:48:462 (168462|3,168462|2) - should be single (nothing unique about this) //last sound of the main sound

Raveille wrote:

A really good example of ghost note mapping in this map is the section Melt3dCheeze pointed out.

01:38:770 (98770|3) - to 01:41:366 (101366|3) -
The whole section needs to be remapped, you're not listening to the music. It's not straight 1/4 jumpstream it's a lot more intricate than that. Patterning shouldn't be kept in overlapping rolls, add some trills or something. It's a build up to that section so you're expecting it to be harder.
This is your current pattern at 01:39:693 - to 01:40:385 - :


This is my fixed pattern at the same timestamps:


Listen to the portions at 25% and you can tell the difference.
//i simply just make the 1/8 into 1/4, how is that become a ghost note. If i add notes at 01:40:443 - 01:40:558 - that will be ghost notes

Another point is that 01:40:500 - should be a single note because it isn't a drum //i double it for the main sound. Got rule says that only drum can use double?
"Drum can only be double and Kick drum can only be triple"
and you guys say i'm the one who's doing boring map
And if the SR/PP system is broken, how is that even my fault ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Abraxos
a case against this map:


how completely disgusting of you to say such a thing to someone who's trying to help.


you're ignoring his point about the patterns neglecting the song as it is; if you believe that your current pattern is fine then stand up to the point and make a case for yourself instead of asking, again, someone who's trying to help you improve your map to "make a map themselves to their liking". i'm sorry but we all share the ranked section so whether you like it or not you will have to stand up for yourself and take responsibility for your own things

before you argue that "you're the one who's being attacked here" stop yourself for a minute and think whether or not these people care enough about you to attack you or care about the quality of the rank section


i think this shows not only me but everyone else how victimized you believe you are. of all the things and people and systems in the world to blame and you never thought to take a look at yourself and what you've actually done.

i can only hope you wake up from it and actually start taking responsibility for your own map.

i apologize if this comes off as aggressive but i do not like it and will never stand for it when people shirk themselves in a corner when criticism arrives and point to the "oppressor" and scream how they're being "unreasonably being attacked".

edit: i'm not continuing this mod, i don't see a reason to when the mapper is this entrenched in his own victim complexes

speedcore


[PATTERNING]
00:12:693 (12693|3,12808|2) - no attempt at differentiation even though there's bass beats?
00:13:500 (13500|2,13616|0) - similarly, i won't repeat myself

00:19:385 (19385|3,19385|0,19616|3,19616|0) - different pitches?

i'm not sure if you noticed but
00:19:616 (19616|0,19731|1,19846|0,19962|1,20077|0) - 1
00:21:577 (21577|1,21693|0,21808|1,21923|0) - 2
00:23:308 (23308|0,23423|1,23539|0,23654|1,23770|0) - 3
why do all of them center on the same hand?
i would understand if 1 & 3 utilized the same patterning cause the song repeats but 2 is eehh

00:26:193 (26193|0,26308|2,26308|0) - i get what you're trying to do here but sorry it's not doing what you think it does
00:28:039 (28039|0,28154|1,28154|0) - if you take a closer listen the one above is completely different in pitch and tone, yet both are represented in the same column

00:31:962 (31962|3,31962|2,32077|2,32077|3) - are they the same pitch? if not why are they in the same column then $$

00:32:539 (32539|2,32539|1,32770|0,32770|3) - funnily enough, these are the same pitches - yet they lack the representation as shown above
you copy pasted didn't you

reference $$ and %% for this point
00:34:385 (34385|2,34385|1,34616|3,34616|0) - you hear those wobs in the song? yeah you could've used those to your advantage by differentiating your doubles here but alas $$ and this are the same so nope this whole section has completely no nuance. add on %% and i think you should be able to see why people are complaining about how plain this map is

00:50:077 (50077|0,50193|0,50308|0,50423|0) - this is horrendous to play as a starting burst
00:50:712 (50712|3,50770|3) - this one is pretty bad, 260 jumptrills and then a minijack? it's not that there's anything wrong layering-wise, i just take issue with how sudden this one is, which is kinda the music's fault but then again it's not like you didn't have the freedom to make it less awkward

let's talk patterning now

00:50:308 (50308|1,50308|0,50366|2,50366|3,50423|0,50423|1,50481|3,50481|2) - i'm pretty darn sure this is a different bass beat than
00:50:539 (50539|0,50539|1,50596|2,50596|3,50654|1,50654|0,50712|2,50712|3) - so i don't understand why they're all bunched up in this jumptrill

01:08:770 (68770|1,68770|3,69000|1,69000|3) - different pitches, same column

01:11:885 (71885|0,71885|3,72000|2,72000|3) - these are the notes that have the same pitches, yes?
01:12:000 (72000|3,72000|2,72116|2,72116|3) - if yes to above, then why are these then the same columns?

01:16:846 (76846|2,76846|3,77077|2,77077|1,77308|0,77308|1) -
01:18:693 (78693|2,78693|3,78923|0,78923|1,79154|2,79154|3) -
we agree that these are the same pitches of notes, yes?
then why are they patterned differently? fundamentally one has chords layered over each other but one doesn't so your "variety" explanation doesn't hold up cause of how differently they actually play.

01:21:693 (81693|3,81693|0,81693|2,81808|1) - you couldn't keep the jacking up here?
01:22:154 (82154|3,82154|0,82270|1) - here too?
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9283807 - i dont see why you wouldn't want to keep the difficulty here at least somewhat consistent

01:27:173 (87173|0,87231|0) - this has no justification layering-wise so i'm putting it here - why end this part on a jack?

pay attention to which hand all the notes i highlight land on
01:27:693 (87693|3,87693|2,87808|2,87808|3) -
01:28:039 (88039|2,88039|3,88154|3,88270|2,88270|3,88385|2,88385|3,88500|3,88500|2) -
01:28:731 (88731|2,88731|3,88846|3,88846|2) -
01:29:077 (89077|2,89077|3,89193|3,89193|2) -
01:29:539 (89539|2,89539|3,89654|3,89654|2) -
01:29:885 (89885|3,90000|3,90116|3) -
01:31:385 (91385|3,91500|2,91500|3,91616|3,91616|2) -
01:31:846 (91846|2,91846|3,91962|3,92077|2,92077|3,92193|2,92193|3) -
01:32:423 (92423|3,92423|2,92539|2,92539|3) -
01:32:770 (92770|3,92770|2,92885|3,92885|2,93000|3) -

can you see anything wrong with how the whole section is layering? do you think (at least for the beginning of the section) the section is a bit heavy on the right?
and before you bring up the "this section is right then left" 01:29:539 - and 01:30:231 - disqualifies it
not that it has any merit to begin with, why would you want to make the section alternatingly right-left biased

this song is horrible to chart, 01:27:693 - i perfectly understand how you didn't want to overload this section and it's really not that much your fault than it is the song (kobaryo is generally pretty meh anyway)

01:30:923 (90923|0,90923|3,91154|0,91154|3) - could've emphasized these more

again,
01:35:193 (95193|3,95193|2,95308|0,95308|1,95423|3,95423|2) -
01:37:039 (97039|3,97039|2,97154|1,97154|0,97270|2,97270|1) -
same beats but different representation

01:36:462 (96462|1,96462|0,96577|2,96577|3) - i don't get why the bass beats don't get the jack but 01:36:577 (96577|2,96577|3,96693|3,96693|0) - the bass-woob ones do, it just misplaces your emphasis on the bass here and makes everything seem messy and convoluted

01:37:500 (97500|1,97500|0,97616|1,97616|0,97731|0) - i don't understand this one




[LAYERING]
complete mess

00:17:193 - there's a bass beat here
00:19:270 - hihat

00:20:885 - bass beat, don't skimp on the double just because it's after muh triple there's still emphasis there

00:26:423 - 00:30:116 - hihat

00:30:462 (30462|1,30462|0,30462|3) - why are these notes emphasized to such an extreme? i don't hear any crashes

00:37:154 - not sure why you ignored the 1/4s here, it's not like you couldn't have done a normal 1/4 stream just for this part because hey there's actually differentiation in this song that you can use to make your map less copy pasted maybe %%
00:37:962 (37962|2,38077|3,38077|0,38193|1) - same as above, you could've done some sort of jack progression but nope nothing %%

00:51:000 (51000|0,51116|0,51231|0) - quirky layering
00:51:000 (51000|2,51000|0,51000|3,51231|2,51231|0,51231|3) - because these are the same triples - why are they the same

let's talk hypocrisy

00:52:212 (52212|3,52327|0) - these can very readily be argued as ghost notes, but for the sake of patterning and my argument let's say these are allowed
then 00:53:135 - 00:53:250 - 00:53:366 - are all inconsistent and fucked by that because they all have that same "note echo"
not only that, 00:52:616 - the patterning itself becomes really right-heavy
in summary, i don't see why you shouldn't remove those "note echo" notes because they're a) messing up the patterning and b) structurally inconsistent

00:53:770 - to 00:54:462 - there are 1/4 snares here you skipped over

01:02:308 - this snare is so blatantly missed
even if you make the argument "hey i'm only following the synths" it just seems lazy to me that you could not have tried to incorporate them into your patterning somehow? because they're part of the song you're trying to chart here and shouldn't we as charters be striving to represent the song as well as possible?

01:08:193 (68193|0,68308|0,68308|1) - either
a) you make them not stack because they're not the same pitches or
b) 01:08:193 - you make this a double

01:10:962 - snare
before you argue that you're mostly following the synths here 01:09:923 (69923|0) - 01:11:770 (71770|1) - you might want to consider that these notes lead players into thinking that percussion is actually being followed too. if you so want to make it such that you don't have to place a note at 01:10:962 - then you better make sure that the synth sections are actually distinct from each other in this section

01:16:154 - a bit weird how there's no notes here just LN releases

01:23:539 - you can most definitely have LNs here
01:21:923 - 01:23:770 - these are the same wubs actually
01:25:385 - NOW this one is inexcusable because there's no wub sound anywhere; besides the fact that this shows some measurable form of incompetency in basic layering understanding i think it shows that you're copy-pasting too

01:25:616 - wub here btw but it's fine if you ignore this one

01:25:846 - i guess you hands are bound layering-wise but i still wouldn't regard this as optimal, you could've very well done a jumpstream which emphasizes more on the synths in the music
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9283841 - something like this might even work fine, even though it's a bit crude as of now

01:35:885 (95885|1,95885|0,95885|3,96116|0,96116|1,96116|3) - same triple but different pitch?
01:35:885 (95885|3,96000|3,96116|3) - it's also why you get these things

01:42:000 - not sure why this is doubled really, there's no strong sound except for a yawn which seems pretty soft to me
-Rem-
Okay, so I'm actually kinda looking forward to the modding discussion and feel like I'll say a word about this one.
First, I actually played the 2 hardest diffs on this map, and I can completely say this is legit pp giveaway. Given that this map isn't hard to play mainly because of the absurd spamming trills, you're not supposed to do that in the similar fashion to the genre has in this song. Sure, it's a really upbeat speedcore, but that doesn't mean your pattern is justifiable and can go on like "oh, this map has lots of tricky rhythmical structure, probably I should go with the hard stuffs and repetitive things on and on". Do not even try to get this one in a ranked state even with a situation like this.
Second and lastly, you are even trying to ignore what the modders will give out better solutions for you. Not even anyone could chart maps perfectly in just a single try. Yours are too. You're completely impolite to just bang those aside and drop it like it's not even a regular feedback for you. Look all of those ranting feedbacks in Disqus if you do need those reviews. So keep that in mind.

In either today or tomorrow, I'll be trying to look over on this stuff and will give out my personal opinion on my revision to this.
Raveille

RemFangirl wrote:

Okay, so I'm actually kinda looking forward to the modding discussion and feel like I'll say a word about this one.
First, I actually played the 2 hardest diffs on this map, and I can completely say this is legit pp giveaway. Given that this map isn't hard to play mainly because of the absurd spamming trills, you're not supposed to do that in the similar fashion to the genre has in this song. Sure, it's a really upbeat speedcore, but that doesn't mean your pattern is justifiable and can go on like "oh, this map has lots of tricky rhythmical structure, probably I should go with the hard stuffs and repetitive things on and on". Do not even try to get this one in a ranked state even with a situation like this.
Second and lastly, you are even trying to ignore what the modders will give out better solutions for you. Not even anyone could chart maps perfectly in just a single try. Yours are too. You're completely impolite to just bang those aside and drop it like it's not even a regular feedback for you. Look all of those ranting feedbacks in Disqus if you do need those reviews. So keep that in mind.

In either today or tomorrow, I'll be trying to look over on this stuff and will give out my personal opinion on my revision to this.
My additional 2 cents is how can you be this unprofessional in replying to mods that aren't even that aggressive. Modders are there because they want to help make the map better and address issues that players have brought up too but if this is the way you want to handle things then we should let the QAT handle this instead.
-mint-
wanting to make a pp map is basically implied in your p//s jumpstream section to which what is mapped in that section is completely different to what is in the song.

also, just wanted to say something about the difficulty name... it's even worse than naming your diff "POP MUSIC!!" in a kpop song, as evening put it

Topic Starter
Sandalphon

Abraxos wrote:

a case against this map:


how completely disgusting of you to say such a thing to someone who's trying to help.
I dont need "luck" to rank my map, any thing wrong with that?

you're ignoring his point about the patterns neglecting the song as it is; if you believe that your current pattern is fine then stand up to the point and make a case for yourself instead of asking, again, someone who's trying to help you improve your map to "make a map themselves to their liking". i'm sorry but we all share the ranked section so whether you like it or not you will have to stand up for yourself and take responsibility for your own things
His think his pattern is better and I think mine is better, just different mapping choice between different mapper, why should i explain more. If you want more explanation, "i think my pattern fits the music more" simple as that. As you said we all share the ranked section, then people should try to accept different mapping idea instead of focusing someone to accept their mod

before you argue that "you're the one who's being attacked here" stop yourself for a minute and think whether or not these people care enough about you to attack you or care about the quality of the rank section
its the wording, using words like "your map is a mess" "should remap this whole section", and still call it a help? no thank you


i think this shows not only me but everyone else how victimized you believe you are. of all the things and people and systems in the world to blame and you never thought to take a look at yourself and what you've actually done.
I would like to know what you mean by "what i've done".

i can only hope you wake up from it and actually start taking responsibility for your own map.

i apologize if this comes off as aggressive but i do not like it and will never stand for it when people shirk themselves in a corner when criticism arrives and point to the "oppressor" and scream how they're being "unreasonably being attacked".
err... pls dont try to guess my thought here

edit: i'm not continuing this mod, i don't see a reason to when the mapper is this entrenched in his own victim complexes

speedcore


[PATTERNING]
00:12:693 (12693|3,12808|2) - no attempt at differentiation even though there's bass beats?
00:13:500 (13500|2,13616|0) - similarly, i won't repeat myself

00:19:385 (19385|3,19385|0,19616|3,19616|0) - different pitches?

i'm not sure if you noticed but
00:19:616 (19616|0,19731|1,19846|0,19962|1,20077|0) - 1
00:21:577 (21577|1,21693|0,21808|1,21923|0) - 2
00:23:308 (23308|0,23423|1,23539|0,23654|1,23770|0) - 3
why do all of them center on the same hand?
i would understand if 1 & 3 utilized the same patterning cause the song repeats but 2 is eehh

00:26:193 (26193|0,26308|2,26308|0) - i get what you're trying to do here but sorry it's not doing what you think it does
00:28:039 (28039|0,28154|1,28154|0) - if you take a closer listen the one above is completely different in pitch and tone, yet both are represented in the same column

00:31:962 (31962|3,31962|2,32077|2,32077|3) - are they the same pitch? if not why are they in the same column then $$

00:32:539 (32539|2,32539|1,32770|0,32770|3) - funnily enough, these are the same pitches - yet they lack the representation as shown above
you copy pasted didn't you

reference $$ and %% for this point
00:34:385 (34385|2,34385|1,34616|3,34616|0) - you hear those wobs in the song? yeah you could've used those to your advantage by differentiating your doubles here but alas $$ and this are the same so nope this whole section has completely no nuance. add on %% and i think you should be able to see why people are complaining about how plain this map is

00:50:077 (50077|0,50193|0,50308|0,50423|0) - this is horrendous to play as a starting burst
00:50:712 (50712|3,50770|3) - this one is pretty bad, 260 jumptrills and then a minijack? it's not that there's anything wrong layering-wise, i just take issue with how sudden this one is, which is kinda the music's fault but then again it's not like you didn't have the freedom to make it less awkward

let's talk patterning now

00:50:308 (50308|1,50308|0,50366|2,50366|3,50423|0,50423|1,50481|3,50481|2) - i'm pretty darn sure this is a different bass beat than
00:50:539 (50539|0,50539|1,50596|2,50596|3,50654|1,50654|0,50712|2,50712|3) - so i don't understand why they're all bunched up in this jumptrill

01:08:770 (68770|1,68770|3,69000|1,69000|3) - different pitches, same column

01:11:885 (71885|0,71885|3,72000|2,72000|3) - these are the notes that have the same pitches, yes?
01:12:000 (72000|3,72000|2,72116|2,72116|3) - if yes to above, then why are these then the same columns?

01:16:846 (76846|2,76846|3,77077|2,77077|1,77308|0,77308|1) -
01:18:693 (78693|2,78693|3,78923|0,78923|1,79154|2,79154|3) -
we agree that these are the same pitches of notes, yes?
then why are they patterned differently?

01:21:693 (81693|3,81693|0,81693|2,81808|1) - you couldn't keep the jacking up here?
01:22:154 (82154|3,82154|0,82270|1) - here too?
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9283807 - i dont see why you wouldn't want to keep the difficulty here at least somewhat consistent

01:27:173 (87173|0,87231|0) - this has no justification layering-wise so i'm putting it here - why end this part on a jack?

pay attention to which hand all the notes i highlight land on
01:27:693 (87693|3,87693|2,87808|2,87808|3) -
01:28:039 (88039|2,88039|3,88154|3,88270|2,88270|3,88385|2,88385|3,88500|3,88500|2) -
01:28:731 (88731|2,88731|3,88846|3,88846|2) -
01:29:077 (89077|2,89077|3,89193|3,89193|2) -
01:29:539 (89539|2,89539|3,89654|3,89654|2) -
01:29:885 (89885|3,90000|3,90116|3) -
01:31:385 (91385|3,91500|2,91500|3,91616|3,91616|2) -
01:31:846 (91846|2,91846|3,91962|3,92077|2,92077|3,92193|2,92193|3) -
01:32:423 (92423|3,92423|2,92539|2,92539|3) -
01:32:770 (92770|3,92770|2,92885|3,92885|2,93000|3) -

can you see anything wrong with how the whole section is layering? do you think (at least for the beginning of the section) the section is a bit heavy on the right?
and before you bring up the "this section is right then left" 01:29:539 - and 01:30:231 - disqualifies it
not that it has any merit to begin with, why would you want to make the section alternatingly right-left biased

this song is horrible to chart, 01:27:693 - i perfectly understand how you didn't want to overload this section and it's really not that much your fault than it is the song (kobaryo is generally pretty meh anyway)

01:30:923 (90923|0,90923|3,91154|0,91154|3) - could've emphasized these more

again,
01:35:193 (95193|3,95193|2,95308|0,95308|1,95423|3,95423|2) -
01:37:039 (97039|3,97039|2,97154|1,97154|0,97270|2,97270|1) -
same beats but different representation

01:36:462 (96462|1,96462|0,96577|2,96577|3) - i don't get why the bass beats don't get the jack but 01:36:577 (96577|2,96577|3,96693|3,96693|0) - the bass-woob ones do, it just misplaces your emphasis on the bass here and makes everything seem messy and convoluted

01:37:500 (97500|1,97500|0,97616|1,97616|0,97731|0) - i don't understand this one




[LAYERING]
complete mess

00:17:193 - there's a bass beat here
00:19:270 - hihat

00:20:885 - bass beat, don't skimp on the double just because it's after muh triple there's still emphasis there

00:26:423 - 00:30:116 - hihat

00:30:462 (30462|1,30462|0,30462|3) - why are these notes emphasized to such an extreme? i don't hear any crashes

00:37:154 - not sure why you ignored the 1/4s here, it's not like you couldn't have done a normal 1/4 stream just for this part because hey there's actually differentiation in this song that you can use to make your map less copy pasted maybe %%
00:37:962 (37962|2,38077|3,38077|0,38193|1) - same as above, you could've done some sort of jack progression but nope nothing %%

00:51:000 (51000|0,51116|0,51231|0) - quirky layering
00:51:000 (51000|2,51000|0,51000|3,51231|2,51231|0,51231|3) - because these are the same triples - why are they the same

let's talk hypocrisy

00:52:212 (52212|3,52327|0) - these can very readily be argued as ghost notes, but for the sake of patterning and my argument let's say these are allowed
then 00:53:135 - 00:53:250 - 00:53:366 - are all inconsistent and fucked by that because they all have that same "note echo"
not only that, 00:52:616 - the patterning itself becomes really right-heavy
in summary, i don't see why you shouldn't remove those "note echo" notes because they're a) messing up the patterning and b) structurally inconsistent

00:53:770 - to 00:54:462 - there are 1/4 snares here you skipped over

01:02:308 - this snare is so blatantly missed
even if you make the argument "hey i'm only following the synths" it just seems lazy to me that you could not have tried to incorporate them into your patterning somehow? because they're part of the song you're trying to chart here and shouldn't we as charters be striving to represent the song as well as possible?

01:08:193 (68193|0,68308|0,68308|1) - either
a) you make them not stack because they're not the same pitches or
b) 01:08:193 - you make this a double

01:10:962 - snare
before you argue that you're mostly following the synths here 01:09:923 (69923|0) - 01:11:770 (71770|1) - you might want to consider that these notes lead players into thinking that percussion is actually being followed too. if you so want to make it such that you don't have to place a note at 01:10:962 - then you better make sure that the synth sections are actually distinct from each other in this section

01:16:154 - a bit weird how there's no notes here just LN releases

01:23:539 - you can most definitely have LNs here
01:21:923 - 01:23:770 - these are the same wubs actually
01:25:385 - NOW this one is inexcusable because there's no wub sound anywhere; besides the fact that this shows some measurable form of incompetency in basic layering understanding i think it shows that you're copy-pasting too

01:25:616 - wub here btw but it's fine if you ignore this one

01:25:846 - i guess you hands are bound layering-wise but i still wouldn't regard this as optimal, you could've very well done a jumpstream which emphasizes more on the synths in the music
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9283841 - something like this might even work fine, even though it's a bit crude as of now

01:35:885 (95885|1,95885|0,95885|3,96116|0,96116|1,96116|3) - same triple but different pitch?
01:35:885 (95885|3,96000|3,96116|3) - it's also why you get these things

01:42:000 - not sure why this is doubled really, there's no strong sound except for a yawn which seems pretty soft to me

RemFangirl wrote:

Okay, so I'm actually kinda looking forward to the modding discussion and feel like I'll say a word about this one.
First, I actually played the 2 hardest diffs on this map, and I can completely say this is legit pp giveaway. Given that this map isn't hard to play mainly because of the absurd spamming trills, you're not supposed to do that in the similar fashion to the genre has in this song. Sure, it's a really upbeat speedcore, but that doesn't mean your pattern is justifiable and can go on like "oh, this map has lots of tricky rhythmical structure, probably I should go with the hard stuffs and repetitive things on and on". Do not even try to get this one in a ranked state even with a situation like this.
Not like i'm the one who set the high SR, i map what i think its correct, if you dont agree then you are welcome to point out, but i wouldnt accept things like "because this is easy pp so you should make the pattern structure harder" no
Second and lastly, you are even trying to ignore what the modders will give out better solutions for you.
I reply each mod with my reason, i cant agree with the modder =/= i ignore their mod. Think again
Not even anyone could chart maps perfectly in just a single try. Yours are too. since when i say my map is perfect
You're completely impolite to just bang those aside and drop it like it's not even a regular feedback for you. Look all of those ranting feedbacks in Disqus if you do need those reviews. So keep that in mind. if you want people to take your post seriously, then you shouldnt do it on disqus, that section is for meme

In either today or tomorrow, I'll be trying to look over on this stuff and will give out my personal opinion on my revision to this.
Will check the mod tonight
-mint-

YaHao wrote:

if you want people to take your post seriously, then you shouldnt do it on disqus, that section is for meme
some of the posts on there are actually serious though. i must admit, most of them are jokes, but saying this just comes to show that you didnt really read the comments section through.
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