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Kobaryo - Dotabata Animation [feat. t+pazolite] [OsuMania]

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Wonki

OscarRickyH02 wrote:

yay finally more great kobaryo song :D

Extra
00:18:231 (18231|3,18231|1,18346|3,18346|1) - unecessary minijack
00:40:385 (40385|3,40500|0,40731|2,40846|0) - this is unecessary as well
00:43:154 (43154|1,43212|0,43270|3,43327|2,43385|3,43385|1,43385|0) - i think short trills is ok in extra diff
00:48:693 (48693|3,48693|2,48750|1,48808|3,48808|0,48866|2) - ^
00:50:366 (50366|2,50423|0,50423|3,50481|1,50539|2,50539|3) - ^
00:50:596 (50596|0,50654|1,50712|2) - make them doubles, but different pattern with ^
01:25:846 - exactly no long jumptrill on this diff, you can make it jumpstream then short trill instead
01:27:750 (87750|2,87808|1) - short trill, apply to other pattern
01:39:866 (99866|1,100096|1) - delete, hand balance
01:41:770 (101770|1,101827|0,101885|2,101943|1,102000|0) - you can replace them to ln in first col
01:43:270 (103270|3) - 1/6 early
01:49:846 - replace this boring pattern with earlier pattern, you can add doubles for kicks too but, not just kicks its boring
song repeats
02:57:808 (177808|2,177866|2) - rip ss, replace


i think thats all, fun song, fun map
Thanks some are fixed
Topic Starter
Sandalphon

OscarRickyH02 wrote:

yay finally more great kobaryo song :D
mod without requested for more star priority and kudosu obviously

DISCLAIMER

  1. I really like hard song, i just dont like its too underrated (map is too hard for that star rating) so most of the time i will nerfing that map (too much unnecessary minijack, bad ln, etc)
  2. since I only play harder song, i will only check harder diff (above 4*, special req exception)
  3. I am new from mapping so i guess i dont always do a good mod
  4. I always assuming the map I'll mod is going to rank so I'll do my best
  5. As always, no kudosu if this mod is pointless
Speedcore
00:04:385 (4385|2) - i dont think it should be ln here, instead 00:03:808 (3808|0) - you can put 1/2 ln here
00:10:385 (10385|0,10500|2,10616|3) - (optional) you can put another 1/2 ln here like 00:10:846 (10846|0,10962|3) -
00:31:385 (31385|0) - (not recommended optional) idk is this rankable but can you change all these notes into 1/2 ln? LN is for the main sound
00:31:385 (31385|0) - is it just my ear or this is ghost? hihat
00:26:885 (26885|2) - i think you should delete this because its sounds like the one in 00:27:116 -
check all part that sounds like last 2 of ^ different sound
00:33:231 (33231|2) - what is this for?
00:35:077 (35077|1) - ^ hihat just like i did in the previous part
and every first beat on that part
00:40:962 (40962|0,40962|1) - 1 note is enough double to emphasize the main sound
00:42:808 (42808|1,42808|0) - ^
00:43:212 (43212|3,43270|2,43327|1) - i prefer trill because all of them is strong kicks and i prefer single stair
00:46:616 (46616|3,46616|0,46673|1,46731|2,46789|3) - ^
00:52:673 (52673|0,52904|0) - delete and 00:52:731 (52731|3,52731|2,52789|1,52789|0,52846|2,52846|3) - ctrl+h for playability stupid pp pattern no
00:54:231 (54231|2) - double for kick
00:54:462 (54462|2,54462|3) - i think you better change these into usual note since that part sounds "add sounds" than " change chord"
01:12:000 (72000|0,72000|1) - single note and 01:12:116 (72116|2,72116|3) - triple (consistency)
01:14:539 (74539|2,74539|1) - i think this is single
01:14:770 (74770|1,74770|0,75231|2,75693|3) - i think its better if you make it releasing ln than adding ln for slowdown sound, or else you can add slowdown sv
01:20:308 - i think you should follow the kicks since its much louder, and these kicks sounds always the same to me, i think you should make it always-double-pattern rather than triple-single-pattern or else you can change those singles into doubles, but this is too overkill
01:21:923 (81923|0,81923|3) - probably delete one of them or both since there are no kick
01:23:539 (83539|3,83539|0,83539|1) - ^
01:23:770 (83770|1,83770|0,83770|3) - ^
01:27:693 (87693|3,87693|2,87693|0,87750|1,87808|2,87808|3) - trill for good feeling to the kick
01:28:270 - add 1/8 stairs here (shredder) 01:28:385 (88385|2,88385|3,88443|1,88500|0,88500|3,88500|2) - trill 01:28:500 - another 1/8 stairs https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8240116
repeat for other part
01:36:693 (96693|3,96693|0,96808|2,96808|1) - single note or ln is better
01:39:808 (99808|0,99808|1,99866|3) - 1/8 stair (shredder)
01:40:039 - uhh, there are shredder again but hard to explain so osu.ppy.sh/ss/8240137
01:40:385 (100385|3,100385|2,100500|2,100500|1) - change both to single ln
01:41:077 - until 01:41:423 - should be 1/8
01:41:770 (101770|0,101798|1,101827|2,101856|3,101885|0,101914|1,101943|2,101971|3) - you can replace them to double ln for diversion, but nvm
01:43:270 (103270|1) - 1/6 too early
01:50:693 (110693|1) - ^
song repeats
outro part A-OK


insane
00:40:731 (40731|0) - double
00:46:616 (46616|1,46616|0,46731|2,46731|3) - make 1/4 stair
00:51:577 (51577|1,51577|0,51693|2,51693|3) - change to double ln
00:51:923 (51923|3,51923|2,52039|2,52039|3) - 1/4 stair
00:52:385 (52385|0,52385|1,52500|1,52500|0) - ^
00:52:731 (52731|2,52731|3) - ctrl+h, 00:52:789 - add note col 3
00:52:962 - ^
01:12:116 (72116|0) - double
01:12:808 (72808|2) - ^
01:21:923 (81923|0,81923|1) - single
01:25:846 - change to 1/4 stairs
01:27:750 - add note
01:28:443 - ^
01:28:789 - ^
01:29:135 - ^
01:29:596 - ^
01:30:289 - ^
01:30:635 - ^
01:43:270 (103270|2) - 1/6 early
song repeats

i think thats all, fun song, fun map
Umo-
love this map
Take my star! ☆=(ゝω・)
DustMoon
Graveyard
QAQ
Aruel
2017-09-03 17:31 YaHao: dotabata when ;w;
2017-09-03 17:34 Fresh Chicken: now
2017-09-03 17:34 Fresh Chicken: now
2017-09-03 17:34 Fresh Chicken: noe
2017-09-03 17:34 Fresh Chicken: now
2017-09-03 17:34 Fresh Chicken: hahahahaha
2017-09-03 17:34 Fresh Chicken: nice timing
2017-09-03 17:35 Fresh Chicken: can u IRC now?
2017-09-03 17:35 YaHao: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1232538 Nanahira - Youkoso JAPARI PARK e]
2017-09-03 17:35 YaHao: lalala
2017-09-03 17:35 YaHao: lalala
2017-09-03 17:35 Fresh Chicken: oh no
2017-09-03 17:35 Fresh Chicken: otaku
2017-09-03 17:35 YaHao: Welcome to Japari Park
2017-09-03 17:35 YaHao: ok lets irc
2017-09-03 17:37 Fresh Chicken: yaho
2017-09-03 17:37 Fresh Chicken: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1214526 Kobaryo - Dotabata Animation [feat. t+pazolite] [SPEEDCORE!!]]
2017-09-03 17:37 YaHao: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1214526 Kobaryo - Dotabata Animation [feat. t+pazolite] [SPEEDCORE!!]]
2017-09-03 17:38 Fresh Chicken: 00:38:308 - don't need to be triple, there's no sounds like other triples
2017-09-03 17:41 YaHao: ok
2017-09-03 17:42 Fresh Chicken: 01:12:116 - you can triple here o.o
2017-09-03 17:43 Fresh Chicken: 01:27:346 (87346|1,87346|2) - 01:27:289 - is more correct snapping.
2017-09-03 17:43 YaHao: can also hear sound at 01:27:346 -
2017-09-03 17:43 Fresh Chicken: oh ya it is
2017-09-03 17:43 YaHao: move to blue line too cancer
2017-09-03 17:44 Fresh Chicken: 01:31:154 - double I guess, voice sample only parts that you used with SV has all double
2017-09-03 17:44 Fresh Chicken: 01:20:077 - like here
2017-09-03 17:45 YaHao: ok
2017-09-03 17:46 Fresh Chicken: 02:26:308 (146308|1,146308|0,146423|3,146423|2,146539|0,146539|1,146654|3,146654|2) - I can't get this part with this pattern
2017-09-03 17:46 Fresh Chicken: copy paste plzplz
2017-09-03 17:47 YaHao: isnt it same with 00:31:846 -
2017-09-03 17:47 YaHao: double for the main sound
2017-09-03 17:48 Fresh Chicken: then how about pattern like this? 12-34-12-34 is too simple i guess https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9005072
2017-09-03 17:49 YaHao: yea that work
2017-09-03 17:49 YaHao: change both
2017-09-03 17:49 Fresh Chicken: alrighty
2017-09-03 17:49 Fresh Chicken: now insane
2017-09-03 17:49 Fresh Chicken: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1214524 Kobaryo - Dotabata Animation [feat. t+pazolite] [Insane]]
2017-09-03 17:50 YaHao: you insane
2017-09-03 17:50 Fresh Chicken: why
2017-09-03 17:50 Fresh Chicken: ;_;
2017-09-03 17:50 YaHao: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1214524 Kobaryo - Dotabata Animation [feat. t+pazolite] [Insane]]
2017-09-03 17:51 YaHao: you gonna post mod for ponki's diff or....
2017-09-03 17:51 Fresh Chicken: 00:09:808 - can be double, or is there any intention
2017-09-03 17:51 Fresh Chicken: will irc with wonki I guess
2017-09-03 17:51 Fresh Chicken: Soul for posting
2017-09-03 17:52 YaHao: i think jack already good enough .-.
2017-09-03 17:53 Fresh Chicken: o ok then
2017-09-03 17:54 Fresh Chicken: 00:39:231 - I think you can LN here like speed core diff, nothing affect on playable
2017-09-03 17:55 YaHao: ok
2017-09-03 17:55 Fresh Chicken: 00:46:616 - highly recommend to use 1/4 here
2017-09-03 17:55 YaHao: sure
2017-09-03 17:59 Fresh Chicken: insane done
2017-09-03 17:59 Fresh Chicken: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1214523 Kobaryo - Dotabata Animation [feat. t+pazolite] [Hard]]
2017-09-03 17:59 Fresh Chicken: pretty clean map toh
2017-09-03 18:00 YaHao: ok_hand
2017-09-03 18:02 Fresh Chicken: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1214525 Kobaryo - Dotabata Animation [feat. t+pazolite] [Normal]]
2017-09-03 18:02 Fresh Chicken: damn clean
2017-09-03 18:02 YaHao: ez copy paste
2017-09-03 18:02 Fresh Chicken: lol
2017-09-03 18:04 Fresh Chicken: easy and normal both fine
2017-09-03 18:04 Fresh Chicken: but one thing
2017-09-03 18:04 Fresh Chicken: normal HS is too small toh
2017-09-03 18:05 YaHao: you mean the overall volume or the sample
2017-09-03 18:06 Fresh Chicken: sample
2017-09-03 18:06 Fresh Chicken: maybe 70%
2017-09-03 18:07 YaHao: ok done
2017-09-03 18:07 Fresh Chicken: yaho
2017-09-03 18:07 Fresh Chicken: where's goddamn wonki
2017-09-03 18:08 YaHao: ponki
2017-09-03 18:08 Fresh Chicken: ponyki
2017-09-03 18:08 Fresh Chicken: aniki
Aruel
I'm really sorry for late

[Wonki's Extra]

00:20:423 (20423|1,20539|2,20654|1) - 신스가 더블을 사용하겠다는것을 의도했을터인데 더블이 아닌 이유 서술 부탁,
00:17:770 - 00:21:462 - 마찬가지.

00:52:962 (52962|3,52962|1,53020|2,53020|0,53077|3,53077|1,53193|1,53193|3,53308|1,53308|3) - 밸런스에 있어서 약간의 문제가 되는 패턴, 차라리 00:53:423 (53423|1) - 이것만 4로 옮겨도 충분히 커버가 될거라는 의견

01:43:308 (103308|3) - 는 01:46:962 (106962|0) - 참조

01:49:846 - 01:57:231 - ㅎㅇ
Wonki

Fresh Chicken wrote:

I'm really sorry for late

[Wonki's Extra]

00:20:423 (20423|1,20539|2,20654|1) - 신스가 더블을 사용하겠다는것을 의도했을터인데 더블이 아닌 이유 서술 부탁, // 일부러 쉽게하려고 1놋만넣었음 그렇다고 롱놋을 넣자니 00:23:885 - 여기랑 비교되고 00:20:539 - 여기다 1놋추가하는걸로 쇼부보도록하지
00:17:770 - 00:21:462 - 마찬가지. // 요기는 추가했다

00:52:962 (52962|3,52962|1,53020|2,53020|0,53077|3,53077|1,53193|1,53193|3,53308|1,53308|3) - 밸런스에 있어서 약간의 문제가 되는 패턴, 차라리 00:53:423 (53423|1) - 이것만 4로 옮겨도 충분히 커버가 될거라는 의견 // OK

01:43:308 (103308|3) - 는 01:46:962 (106962|0) - 참조 //ㅇㅇ

01:49:846 - 01:57:231 - ㅎㅇ // ㅎㅇ ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Topic Starter
Sandalphon
Updated
Aruel
bubbled. Good luck!
Topic Starter
Sandalphon
thank u kfc
Maxus
Sorry i forgot this orz gbf is love

[Easy]
00:39:231 (39231|0) - Think it's better to be at col 3 to make a complete stair for more intuitive flow.
01:38:770 - the pattern here is harder than normal diff, is this intentional?
01:57:231 - I think it's better if you add note for finish here, since you usually consistent with it. in that case, put it into col 1 and move 01:57:462 (117462|0) - to col 2.
02:34:962 (154962|3) - Since col 3 is more rarely used, move this note to col 3 will make it more balance.

[Normal]
01:38:770 - Will suggest to make this part more denser like what you did in easy diff.
02:18:346 (138346|2) - better move this to col 1 to make your pattern be more consistent with 00:23:539 (23539|3,23885|3) - , since it seemed your pattern revolving some sort of col 1 / col 4 jack.

[Soul's Hyper]
Disclaimer: Since this song is repeating, if i suggest to fix something and you agree, make sure to fix on the second part as well.

00:05:885 (5885|0,6000|3) - Prefer if you Ctrl+H rotate these notes so it will give more natural flow.
00:09:577 (9577|3,9808|2,9923|1,10039|0) - Try having 3-4-1-2 instead, it will form mini trill which emphasize the consistent drum better.
00:19:846 - Add note for clap here? since you seemed to be consistent with the approach double for clap except this part didn't get it.
00:24:808 (24808|0) - better if you continue the LN...
00:53:193 (53193|1,53308|0,53423|1) - Kinda felt this pattern to be anti-flow. 1-2-1 actually connect the pattern with stair LN at 00:53:654 - more intuitively.
01:40:500 (100500|1) - I now this is still part of long stream, but its actually nice place to give break cause the drum actually suddenly dissapear. and continue the stream with that music "break" doesn't express it properly.
02:04:154 - Same suggestion as 00:09:577 -

[Hard]
02:59:308 - I felt the chord is a bit too much (2 notes + 1 LN) here given the synth emphasis isn't actually that strong especially in hard diff, so i will suggest to reduce one note for each of the chordnote.

[Insane]
01:41:539 - think you can emphasize the burst with LN a bit better by https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9120378

[Wonki's Extra]
00:09:346 (9346|1,9462|2) - Better if you switch column here, making jack between 00:09:462 - and 00:09:577 - is better as they are the same drum sound. it'd be more consistent with your overall placement after this too as you sought for more jack there.
00:10:846 - Not sure if col 4 stacks are your intention / not, but if not it's better for you to Ctrl+H between 00:10:846 (10846|3,10962|0,11077|3) -
00:31:616 (31616|1,31731|2,31846|3,31962|2) - Make this 4-3-2-4? it will follow pitch more accurately.
01:43:308 (103308|3) - are you sure this is 1/6? i know what sound you try to follow, i just wanna make sure.

[Speedcore!!]
00:38:308 (38308|0) - Better in col 3 imo, its the same drum that you made jack at 00:39:000 (39000|2,39000|1,39116|2,39116|1) -
01:11:885 - I think this part can be interpreted the pitch more accurately like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9120317
01:31:154 - Double note here coz same vocal as 01:30:923 - ?

Nice one, call me back if you already done!
Wonki

Maxus wrote:

Sorry i forgot this orz gbf is love

[Wonki's Extra]
00:09:346 (9346|1,9462|2) - Better if you switch column here, making jack between 00:09:462 - and 00:09:577 - is better as they are the same drum sound. it'd be more consistent with your overall placement after this too as you sought for more jack there.
00:10:846 - Not sure if col 4 stacks are your intention / not, but if not it's better for you to Ctrl+H between 00:10:846 (10846|3,10962|0,11077|3) -
00:31:616 (31616|1,31731|2,31846|3,31962|2) - Make this 4-3-2-4? it will follow pitch more accurately.
01:43:308 (103308|3) - are you sure this is 1/6? i know what sound you try to follow, i just wanna make sure. // I think it's 1/8. 01:43:298 (103298|3,103529|3) - ,01:46:991 (106991|0,107221|0) -


Nice one, call me back if you already done!
All fixed
Wonki
About snap

01:43:298 - 01:43:529 - 01:46:991 - 01:47:221 - 01:50:683 - 01:50:914 - 01:54:375 - 01:54:606 -

I think 1/8 is correct
Topic Starter
Sandalphon

Maxus wrote:

Sorry i forgot this orz gbf is love

[Easy]
00:39:231 (39231|0) - Think it's better to be at col 3 to make a complete stair for more intuitive flow.
01:38:770 - the pattern here is harder than normal diff, is this intentional?
01:57:231 - I think it's better if you add note for finish here, since you usually consistent with it. in that case, put it into col 1 and move 01:57:462 (117462|0) - to col 2.
02:34:962 (154962|3) - Since col 3 is more rarely used, move this note to col 3 will make it more balance.

[Normal]
01:38:770 - Will suggest to make this part more denser like what you did in easy diff.
02:18:346 (138346|2) - better move this to col 1 to make your pattern be more consistent with 00:23:539 (23539|3,23885|3) - , since it seemed your pattern revolving some sort of col 1 / col 4 jack.


[Hard]
02:59:308 - I felt the chord is a bit too much (2 notes + 1 LN) here given the synth emphasis isn't actually that strong especially in hard diff, so i will suggest to reduce one note for each of the chordnote.

[Insane]
01:41:539 - think you can emphasize the burst with LN a bit better by https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9120378


[Speedcore!!]
00:38:308 (38308|0) - Better in col 3 imo, its the same drum that you made jack at 00:39:000 (39000|2,39000|1,39116|2,39116|1) - //jack 1 note is enough imo, unlike the second one has cymbal in it so i use double jacks
01:11:885 - I think this part can be interpreted the pitch more accurately like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9120317 //kinda weird to jack this note 00:38:308 (38308|0) - and i want to keep the overall intensity low since its the clam part of the song, one jack should be fine
01:31:154 - Double note here coz same vocal as 01:30:923 - ?

Nice one, call me back if you already done!
no reply means fix

Wonki wrote:

About snap

01:43:298 - 01:43:529 - 01:46:991 - 01:47:221 - 01:50:683 - 01:50:914 - 01:54:375 - 01:54:606 -

I think 1/8 is correct
about the snap, I will say the correct snap is 1/8, but i will keep 1/2 for my diff
They are not 1/2 for sure (which is the current snap of all my diff), anyone can notice that from editor, but the reason why i'm keeping the "wrong snap" is for the playability, since its only 1/8 earlier, its hard to tell the difference only thru playing.


And yea, updated my and Wonki's diff, thank you for checking
Soul Evans

Maxus wrote:

[Soul's Hyper]
Disclaimer: Since this song is repeating, if i suggest to fix something and you agree, make sure to fix on the second part as well.

00:05:885 (5885|0,6000|3) - Prefer if you Ctrl+H rotate these notes so it will give more natural flow.want to keep this because of the pitch and i want to keep it consistent for the chart
00:09:577 (9577|3,9808|2,9923|1,10039|0) - Try having 3-4-1-2 instead, it will form mini trill which emphasize the consistent drum better.oh that's pretty good of a suggestion you did there, ok
00:19:846 - Add note for clap here? since you seemed to be consistent with the approach double for clap except this part didn't get it. must have missed it
00:24:808 (24808|0) - better if you continue the LN...understandable, although i don't remember doing it, however it's been long since i made this diff
00:53:193 (53193|1,53308|0,53423|1) - Kinda felt this pattern to be anti-flow. 1-2-1 actually connect the pattern with stair LN at 00:53:654 - more intuitively.ok
01:40:500 (100500|1) - I now this is still part of long stream, but its actually nice place to give break cause the drum actually suddenly dissapear. and continue the stream with that music "break" doesn't express it properly.removed it
02:04:154 - Same suggestion as 00:09:577 - did that
Thank you for the mod!

Update
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192,192,181385,128,0,181616:0:0:0:0:
320,192,181616,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,181846,128,2,182077:0:0:0:0:
448,192,181846,1,4,0:0:0:0:
320,192,182077,128,0,182308:0:0:0:0:
192,192,182308,128,2,182539:0:0:0:0:
64,192,182308,1,4,0:0:0:0:
448,192,182539,128,0,182770:0:0:0:0:
320,192,182770,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,182885,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,183000,128,0,183231:0:0:0:0:
448,192,183231,128,0,183462:0:0:0:0:
64,192,183462,1,4,0:0:0:0:
320,192,183462,128,0,183923:0:0:0:0:
Topic Starter
Sandalphon
Updated (also fixed few missing HS
Aruel
Rebub, good luck!
Topic Starter
Sandalphon
Thank u again
(fixed the snap in Insane Extra and SPEEDCORE!!
Maxus
everything's now fine, good luck!
Melt3dCheeze
[Speedcore!!]
01:20:308 (80308|3) -
Needs more chord jacks if that makes sense. The song intensity starts to pick up and it needs to be different from the lighter sections of the song, so that might warrant for increased difficulty.

01:38:770 (98770|3) - to 01:41:366 (101366|3) -
The whole section needs to be remapped, you're not listening to the music. It's not straight 1/4 jumpstream it's a lot more intricate than that. Patterning shouldn't be kept in overlapping rolls, add some trills or something. It's a build up to that section so you're expecting it to be harder.

01:42:462 (102462|0,102462|3,102462|0,102462|1) -
This section is void, LN + rice would suffice. Yet again being omissive to the music.

Good luck
-mint-
oh yeah and on top of what melted cheese said, some of the layering is weird too
also, if you are going to make a pp map, you cant justify it by making the "easier" patterns uncomfortable, that's not very fair imo
please consider these changes

a box
00:26:770 (26770|1,26770|0,26770|3) - and 00:30:462 (30462|1,30462|0,30462|3) - should be doubles, theres no reason as to why they should be layered more heavily than 00:25:731 or the same as 00:28:616 (which has a unique sound)
00:31:846 (31846|1,31846|0,31962|3,31962|2,32077|3,32077|2,32193|0,32193|1) - this doesnt really make sense, the layering is fine but the positioning doesnt fit the music, would suggest changing up a few note positions - the fastest way would be to move 00:32:077 (32077|3) - to the second column seeing as the notes in the synth go B - E - G# - B (to allow the notes corresponding to B to be the same columns and E and G# having different columns)
00:33:462 (33462|3,33462|0) - 00:35:308 (35308|2,35308|3) - why not triple?

based on from what i see in the first kiai i assume that cymbal = quad, kick drum = jump or hand when emphasized, seems familiar (galaxy collapse) - 00:40:962 (40962|0,40962|1) - and 00:44:654 (44654|1,44654|2) - and 00:46:500 (46500|2,46500|1) - and 00:42:808 (42808|0,42808|1) - have no kick drum, consider reducing to single
00:43:212 (43212|3,43270|2) - and 00:46:673 (46673|1,46731|2,46789|3) - change to doubles (because you have patterns like 00:48:693 (48693|3,48693|0,48750|1,48750|2,48808|0,48808|3,48866|1,48866|2,48923|0,48923|3) - that are basically the same sound)

00:48:116 (48116|2,48116|3,48231|3,48346|3,48462|3,48462|2,48577|2,48693|3,48750|2,48808|3,48866|2,48923|3) - extremely uncomfortable for the right hand. 00:48:231 (48231|0,48231|3,48231|1,48346|3,48346|1,48346|0) - these two chords dont even have the same pitch in the melody, and 00:48:693 (48693|3,48693|0,48750|1,48750|2,48808|0,48808|3,48866|1,48866|2,48923|0,48923|3) - this would normally be fine (galaxy collapse) but because of the surrounding patterns, it is slightly uncomfortable (unless i'm just bad) - consider switching to regular jumptrill

00:50:077 (50077|3,50077|2,50077|0,50193|2,50193|0,50193|3) - dont even have the same pitch in the melody

00:50:712 (50712|3,50770|3) - remove one of these notes

00:52:673 (52673|0,52904|0) - there isnt even any sound here. remove these and 00:52:731 (52731|3,52731|2,52789|1,52789|0,52846|2,52846|3) - Ctrl+H this

01:08:193 (68193|0,68308|0) - why stack here? change; 01:04:500 (64500|3,64616|3) - this one is fine because the mallet perc. (xylophone?) has the same sound

also, there are sounds at 01:02:308 and 01:03:231 etc. throughout the section

01:17:539 (77539|0,77539|3,77539|2) - no reason for this to be triple, change to double
01:19:385 (79385|1,79385|0,79385|3) - ^

01:20:077 (80077|2,80077|1) - the "up" in "shut up" comes a bit before this, just remove these notes

01:20:308 - more chords/doubles (see post above)

01:21:923 (81923|3,81923|2,81923|0) - and 01:23:539 (83539|1,83539|0,83539|3,83770|3,83770|1,83770|0) - no strong kick drum, change to double
note at 01:23:885 not mapped

01:27:173 (87173|0,87231|0) - minijack at this speed? no thanks

01:38:770 - the music here is a lot more complicated than a planet shaper jumpstream, consider mapping the sharp speedcore sounds with 1/8 snap

01:42:462 - really boring, consider mapping the other sounds

02:21:231 (141231|1,141231|0,141231|3) - and 02:24:923 (144923|3,144923|1,144923|0) - same problem as before, should be double
02:26:308 (146308|3,146308|2,146423|0,146423|1,146539|1,146539|0,146654|2,146654|3) - same problem as before

for second kiai refer to first kiai mod
02:45:231 - just maintain the jumptrill until the 1/8

02:47:135 (167135|3,167366|3,167596|3) - no sound, delete and 02:47:193 (167193|1,167193|0,167250|2,167250|3,167308|1,167308|0,167654|1,167654|0,167712|2,167712|3,167770|0,167770|1) - Ctrl+H this pattern
02:48:462 (168462|3,168462|2) - should be single (nothing unique about this)
Raveille
A really good example of ghost note mapping in this map is the section Melt3dCheeze pointed out.

01:38:770 (98770|3) - to 01:41:366 (101366|3) -
The whole section needs to be remapped, you're not listening to the music. It's not straight 1/4 jumpstream it's a lot more intricate than that. Patterning shouldn't be kept in overlapping rolls, add some trills or something. It's a build up to that section so you're expecting it to be harder.
This is your current pattern at 01:39:693 - to 01:40:385 - :


This is my fixed pattern at the same timestamps:


Listen to the portions at 25% and you can tell the difference.

Another point is that 01:40:500 - should be a single note because it isn't a drum
Topic Starter
Sandalphon

Melt3dCheeze wrote:

[Speedcore!!]
01:20:308 (80308|3) -
Needs more chord jacks if that makes sense. The song intensity starts to pick up and it needs to be different from the lighter sections of the song, so that might warrant for increased difficulty. //prefer to keep the current pattern as overall intensity is already high enough

01:38:770 (98770|3) - to 01:41:366 (101366|3) -
The whole section needs to be remapped, you're not listening to the music. It's not straight 1/4 jumpstream it's a lot more intricate than that. Patterning shouldn't be kept in overlapping rolls, add some trills or something. It's a build up to that section so you're expecting it to be harder.//just because i didnt map the 1/8 doesnt mean i'm not listening to the music

01:42:462 (102462|0,102462|3,102462|0,102462|1) -
This section is void, LN + rice would suffice. Yet again being omissive to the music. // idont see how this could be a problem, if you want to do LN pattern then go ahead and do it when you map your own map but i would like to keep my current

Good luck i dont need that

qqqant wrote:

oh yeah and on top of what melted cheese said, some of the layering is weird too
also, if you are going to make a pp map, you cant justify it by making the "easier" patterns uncomfortable, that's not very fair imo
please consider these changes //where you get this idea of me want to do pp map

a box
00:26:770 (26770|1,26770|0,26770|3) - and 00:30:462 (30462|1,30462|0,30462|3) - should be doubles, theres no reason as to why they should be layered more heavily than 00:25:731 or the same as 00:28:616 (which has a unique sound)
// there is a reason, its the first sound of the main sound as i want to give more impact by using triple
00:31:846 (31846|1,31846|0,31962|3,31962|2,32077|3,32077|2,32193|0,32193|1) - this doesnt really make sense, the layering is fine but the positioning doesnt fit the music, would suggest changing up a few note positions - the fastest way would be to move
//using double jack because i want to build up the intensity as the rhythm goes up. i dont see how moving one note will make a huge different
00:32:077 (32077|3) - to the second column seeing as the notes in the synth go B - E - G# - B (to allow the notes corresponding to B to be the same columns and E and G# having different columns)
00:33:462 (33462|3,33462|0) - 00:35:308 (35308|2,35308|3) - why not triple? // because i decided not to, only the last cymbal is using triple

based on from what i see in the first kiai i assume that cymbal = quad, kick drum = jump or hand when emphasized, seems familiar (galaxy collapse) //wrong in the first place lmao
- 00:40:962 (40962|0,40962|1) - and 00:44:654 (44654|1,44654|2) - and 00:46:500 (46500|2,46500|1) - and 00:42:808 (42808|0,42808|1) - have no kick drum, consider reducing to single //main sound thank you
00:43:212 (43212|3,43270|2) - and 00:46:673 (46673|1,46731|2,46789|3) - change to doubles (because you have patterns like 00:48:693 (48693|3,48693|0,48750|1,48750|2,48808|0,48808|3,48866|1,48866|2,48923|0,48923|3) - that are basically the same sound) //so have you consider the intensity of each section? the first one is not trills because the intensity is different

00:48:116 (48116|2,48116|3,48231|3,48346|3,48462|3,48462|2,48577|2,48693|3,48750|2,48808|3,48866|2,48923|3) - extremely uncomfortable for the right hand.// left hand 11notes, right hand 12 notes, what can i say
00:48:231 (48231|0,48231|3,48231|1,48346|3,48346|1,48346|0) - these two chords dont even have the same pitch in the melody,
//using same column because the different pitch at 00:48:346 (48346|1,48346|0,48346|3,48462|3,48462|2,48462|0) - is much more noticeable
and 00:48:693 (48693|3,48693|0,48750|1,48750|2,48808|0,48808|3,48866|1,48866|2,48923|0,48923|3) - this would normally be fine (galaxy collapse) but because of the surrounding patterns, it is slightly uncomfortable (unless i'm just bad) - consider switching to regular jumptrill //so are you saying (12)(34) is the only trill we can do now?

00:50:077 (50077|3,50077|2,50077|0,50193|2,50193|0,50193|3) - dont even have the same pitch in the melody //like my previous explanation

00:50:712 (50712|3,50770|3) - remove one of these notes if you cant give a reason why should i even fix it

00:52:673 (52673|0,52904|0) - there isnt even any sound here. remove these and 00:52:731 (52731|3,52731|2,52789|1,52789|0,52846|2,52846|3) - Ctrl+H this //hihat

01:08:193 (68193|0,68308|0) - why stack here? change; 01:04:500 (64500|3,64616|3) - this one is fine because the mallet perc. (xylophone?) has the same sound//to show the rhythm is changing

also, there are sounds at 01:02:308 and 01:03:231 etc. throughout the section //because i'm focusing on the main sound (which is the LN) isnt that obvious

01:17:539 (77539|0,77539|3,77539|2) - no reason for this to be triple, change to double
01:19:385 (79385|1,79385|0,79385|3) - ^ first sound of the main sound

01:20:077 (80077|2,80077|1) - the "up" in "shut up" comes a bit before this, just remove these notes "a bit before" you cant even tell the snap, plus its vocal, move it few ms earlier wouldnt effect anything

01:20:308 - more chords/doubles (see post above)

01:21:923 (81923|3,81923|2,81923|0) - and 01:23:539 (83539|1,83539|0,83539|3,83770|3,83770|1,83770|0) - no strong kick drum, change to double //pls stop assuming that i'm using triple for kick drum like i cant tell the difference, i'm using it for the main sound
note at 01:23:885 not mapped //leave this part empty so i can emphasize the cymbal sound 01:24:000 - more

01:27:173 (87173|0,87231|0) - minijack at this speed? no thanks//if you cant play doesnt mean other cant. a lots of BPM higher than 250 also used this kinda of jack

01:38:770 - the music here is a lot more complicated than a planet shaper jumpstream, consider mapping the sharp speedcore sounds with 1/8 snap //i cant do 260 jack but i can do 260 jumpstream which mixed with 1/8. Nice logic

01:42:462 - really boring, consider mapping the other sounds //not boring, consider go map your own version of this song

02:21:231 (141231|1,141231|0,141231|3) - and 02:24:923 (144923|3,144923|1,144923|0) - same problem as before, should be double same explantion as before, not gonna fix
02:26:308 (146308|3,146308|2,146423|0,146423|1,146539|1,146539|0,146654|2,146654|3) - same problem as before //^

for second kiai refer to first kiai mod
02:45:231 - just maintain the jumptrill until the 1/8 //why should i, better give a reason next time if you want to convince someone

02:47:135 (167135|3,167366|3,167596|3) - no sound, delete and 02:47:193 (167193|1,167193|0,167250|2,167250|3,167308|1,167308|0,167654|1,167654|0,167712|2,167712|3,167770|0,167770|1) - Ctrl+H this pattern // hihat like my previous explanation
02:48:462 (168462|3,168462|2) - should be single (nothing unique about this) //last sound of the main sound

Raveille wrote:

A really good example of ghost note mapping in this map is the section Melt3dCheeze pointed out.

01:38:770 (98770|3) - to 01:41:366 (101366|3) -
The whole section needs to be remapped, you're not listening to the music. It's not straight 1/4 jumpstream it's a lot more intricate than that. Patterning shouldn't be kept in overlapping rolls, add some trills or something. It's a build up to that section so you're expecting it to be harder.
This is your current pattern at 01:39:693 - to 01:40:385 - :


This is my fixed pattern at the same timestamps:


Listen to the portions at 25% and you can tell the difference.
//i simply just make the 1/8 into 1/4, how is that become a ghost note. If i add notes at 01:40:443 - 01:40:558 - that will be ghost notes

Another point is that 01:40:500 - should be a single note because it isn't a drum //i double it for the main sound. Got rule says that only drum can use double?
"Drum can only be double and Kick drum can only be triple"
and you guys say i'm the one who's doing boring map
And if the SR/PP system is broken, how is that even my fault ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Abraxos
a case against this map:


how completely disgusting of you to say such a thing to someone who's trying to help.


you're ignoring his point about the patterns neglecting the song as it is; if you believe that your current pattern is fine then stand up to the point and make a case for yourself instead of asking, again, someone who's trying to help you improve your map to "make a map themselves to their liking". i'm sorry but we all share the ranked section so whether you like it or not you will have to stand up for yourself and take responsibility for your own things

before you argue that "you're the one who's being attacked here" stop yourself for a minute and think whether or not these people care enough about you to attack you or care about the quality of the rank section


i think this shows not only me but everyone else how victimized you believe you are. of all the things and people and systems in the world to blame and you never thought to take a look at yourself and what you've actually done.

i can only hope you wake up from it and actually start taking responsibility for your own map.

i apologize if this comes off as aggressive but i do not like it and will never stand for it when people shirk themselves in a corner when criticism arrives and point to the "oppressor" and scream how they're being "unreasonably being attacked".

edit: i'm not continuing this mod, i don't see a reason to when the mapper is this entrenched in his own victim complexes

speedcore

[PATTERNING]
00:12:693 (12693|3,12808|2) - no attempt at differentiation even though there's bass beats?
00:13:500 (13500|2,13616|0) - similarly, i won't repeat myself

00:19:385 (19385|3,19385|0,19616|3,19616|0) - different pitches?

i'm not sure if you noticed but
00:19:616 (19616|0,19731|1,19846|0,19962|1,20077|0) - 1
00:21:577 (21577|1,21693|0,21808|1,21923|0) - 2
00:23:308 (23308|0,23423|1,23539|0,23654|1,23770|0) - 3
why do all of them center on the same hand?
i would understand if 1 & 3 utilized the same patterning cause the song repeats but 2 is eehh

00:26:193 (26193|0,26308|2,26308|0) - i get what you're trying to do here but sorry it's not doing what you think it does
00:28:039 (28039|0,28154|1,28154|0) - if you take a closer listen the one above is completely different in pitch and tone, yet both are represented in the same column

00:31:962 (31962|3,31962|2,32077|2,32077|3) - are they the same pitch? if not why are they in the same column then $$

00:32:539 (32539|2,32539|1,32770|0,32770|3) - funnily enough, these are the same pitches - yet they lack the representation as shown above
you copy pasted didn't you

reference $$ and %% for this point
00:34:385 (34385|2,34385|1,34616|3,34616|0) - you hear those wobs in the song? yeah you could've used those to your advantage by differentiating your doubles here but alas $$ and this are the same so nope this whole section has completely no nuance. add on %% and i think you should be able to see why people are complaining about how plain this map is

00:50:077 (50077|0,50193|0,50308|0,50423|0) - this is horrendous to play as a starting burst
00:50:712 (50712|3,50770|3) - this one is pretty bad, 260 jumptrills and then a minijack? it's not that there's anything wrong layering-wise, i just take issue with how sudden this one is, which is kinda the music's fault but then again it's not like you didn't have the freedom to make it less awkward

let's talk patterning now

00:50:308 (50308|1,50308|0,50366|2,50366|3,50423|0,50423|1,50481|3,50481|2) - i'm pretty darn sure this is a different bass beat than
00:50:539 (50539|0,50539|1,50596|2,50596|3,50654|1,50654|0,50712|2,50712|3) - so i don't understand why they're all bunched up in this jumptrill

01:08:770 (68770|1,68770|3,69000|1,69000|3) - different pitches, same column

01:11:885 (71885|0,71885|3,72000|2,72000|3) - these are the notes that have the same pitches, yes?
01:12:000 (72000|3,72000|2,72116|2,72116|3) - if yes to above, then why are these then the same columns?

01:16:846 (76846|2,76846|3,77077|2,77077|1,77308|0,77308|1) -
01:18:693 (78693|2,78693|3,78923|0,78923|1,79154|2,79154|3) -
we agree that these are the same pitches of notes, yes?
then why are they patterned differently? fundamentally one has chords layered over each other but one doesn't so your "variety" explanation doesn't hold up cause of how differently they actually play.

01:21:693 (81693|3,81693|0,81693|2,81808|1) - you couldn't keep the jacking up here?
01:22:154 (82154|3,82154|0,82270|1) - here too?
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9283807 - i dont see why you wouldn't want to keep the difficulty here at least somewhat consistent

01:27:173 (87173|0,87231|0) - this has no justification layering-wise so i'm putting it here - why end this part on a jack?

pay attention to which hand all the notes i highlight land on
01:27:693 (87693|3,87693|2,87808|2,87808|3) -
01:28:039 (88039|2,88039|3,88154|3,88270|2,88270|3,88385|2,88385|3,88500|3,88500|2) -
01:28:731 (88731|2,88731|3,88846|3,88846|2) -
01:29:077 (89077|2,89077|3,89193|3,89193|2) -
01:29:539 (89539|2,89539|3,89654|3,89654|2) -
01:29:885 (89885|3,90000|3,90116|3) -
01:31:385 (91385|3,91500|2,91500|3,91616|3,91616|2) -
01:31:846 (91846|2,91846|3,91962|3,92077|2,92077|3,92193|2,92193|3) -
01:32:423 (92423|3,92423|2,92539|2,92539|3) -
01:32:770 (92770|3,92770|2,92885|3,92885|2,93000|3) -

can you see anything wrong with how the whole section is layering? do you think (at least for the beginning of the section) the section is a bit heavy on the right?
and before you bring up the "this section is right then left" 01:29:539 - and 01:30:231 - disqualifies it
not that it has any merit to begin with, why would you want to make the section alternatingly right-left biased

this song is horrible to chart, 01:27:693 - i perfectly understand how you didn't want to overload this section and it's really not that much your fault than it is the song (kobaryo is generally pretty meh anyway)

01:30:923 (90923|0,90923|3,91154|0,91154|3) - could've emphasized these more

again,
01:35:193 (95193|3,95193|2,95308|0,95308|1,95423|3,95423|2) -
01:37:039 (97039|3,97039|2,97154|1,97154|0,97270|2,97270|1) -
same beats but different representation

01:36:462 (96462|1,96462|0,96577|2,96577|3) - i don't get why the bass beats don't get the jack but 01:36:577 (96577|2,96577|3,96693|3,96693|0) - the bass-woob ones do, it just misplaces your emphasis on the bass here and makes everything seem messy and convoluted

01:37:500 (97500|1,97500|0,97616|1,97616|0,97731|0) - i don't understand this one




[LAYERING]
complete mess

00:17:193 - there's a bass beat here
00:19:270 - hihat

00:20:885 - bass beat, don't skimp on the double just because it's after muh triple there's still emphasis there

00:26:423 - 00:30:116 - hihat

00:30:462 (30462|1,30462|0,30462|3) - why are these notes emphasized to such an extreme? i don't hear any crashes

00:37:154 - not sure why you ignored the 1/4s here, it's not like you couldn't have done a normal 1/4 stream just for this part because hey there's actually differentiation in this song that you can use to make your map less copy pasted maybe %%
00:37:962 (37962|2,38077|3,38077|0,38193|1) - same as above, you could've done some sort of jack progression but nope nothing %%

00:51:000 (51000|0,51116|0,51231|0) - quirky layering
00:51:000 (51000|2,51000|0,51000|3,51231|2,51231|0,51231|3) - because these are the same triples - why are they the same

let's talk hypocrisy

00:52:212 (52212|3,52327|0) - these can very readily be argued as ghost notes, but for the sake of patterning and my argument let's say these are allowed
then 00:53:135 - 00:53:250 - 00:53:366 - are all inconsistent and fucked by that because they all have that same "note echo"
not only that, 00:52:616 - the patterning itself becomes really right-heavy
in summary, i don't see why you shouldn't remove those "note echo" notes because they're a) messing up the patterning and b) structurally inconsistent

00:53:770 - to 00:54:462 - there are 1/4 snares here you skipped over

01:02:308 - this snare is so blatantly missed
even if you make the argument "hey i'm only following the synths" it just seems lazy to me that you could not have tried to incorporate them into your patterning somehow? because they're part of the song you're trying to chart here and shouldn't we as charters be striving to represent the song as well as possible?

01:08:193 (68193|0,68308|0,68308|1) - either
a) you make them not stack because they're not the same pitches or
b) 01:08:193 - you make this a double

01:10:962 - snare
before you argue that you're mostly following the synths here 01:09:923 (69923|0) - 01:11:770 (71770|1) - you might want to consider that these notes lead players into thinking that percussion is actually being followed too. if you so want to make it such that you don't have to place a note at 01:10:962 - then you better make sure that the synth sections are actually distinct from each other in this section

01:16:154 - a bit weird how there's no notes here just LN releases

01:23:539 - you can most definitely have LNs here
01:21:923 - 01:23:770 - these are the same wubs actually
01:25:385 - NOW this one is inexcusable because there's no wub sound anywhere; besides the fact that this shows some measurable form of incompetency in basic layering understanding i think it shows that you're copy-pasting too

01:25:616 - wub here btw but it's fine if you ignore this one

01:25:846 - i guess you hands are bound layering-wise but i still wouldn't regard this as optimal, you could've very well done a jumpstream which emphasizes more on the synths in the music
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9283841 - something like this might even work fine, even though it's a bit crude as of now

01:35:885 (95885|1,95885|0,95885|3,96116|0,96116|1,96116|3) - same triple but different pitch?
01:35:885 (95885|3,96000|3,96116|3) - it's also why you get these things

01:42:000 - not sure why this is doubled really, there's no strong sound except for a yawn which seems pretty soft to me
Mipha-
Okay, so I'm actually kinda looking forward to the modding discussion and feel like I'll say a word about this one.
First, I actually played the 2 hardest diffs on this map, and I can completely say this is legit pp giveaway. Given that this map isn't hard to play mainly because of the absurd spamming trills, you're not supposed to do that in the similar fashion to the genre has in this song. Sure, it's a really upbeat speedcore, but that doesn't mean your pattern is justifiable and can go on like "oh, this map has lots of tricky rhythmical structure, probably I should go with the hard stuffs and repetitive things on and on". Do not even try to get this one in a ranked state even with a situation like this.
Second and lastly, you are even trying to ignore what the modders will give out better solutions for you. Not even anyone could chart maps perfectly in just a single try. Yours are too. You're completely impolite to just bang those aside and drop it like it's not even a regular feedback for you. Look all of those ranting feedbacks in Disqus if you do need those reviews. So keep that in mind.

In either today or tomorrow, I'll be trying to look over on this stuff and will give out my personal opinion on my revision to this.
Raveille

RemFangirl wrote:

Okay, so I'm actually kinda looking forward to the modding discussion and feel like I'll say a word about this one.
First, I actually played the 2 hardest diffs on this map, and I can completely say this is legit pp giveaway. Given that this map isn't hard to play mainly because of the absurd spamming trills, you're not supposed to do that in the similar fashion to the genre has in this song. Sure, it's a really upbeat speedcore, but that doesn't mean your pattern is justifiable and can go on like "oh, this map has lots of tricky rhythmical structure, probably I should go with the hard stuffs and repetitive things on and on". Do not even try to get this one in a ranked state even with a situation like this.
Second and lastly, you are even trying to ignore what the modders will give out better solutions for you. Not even anyone could chart maps perfectly in just a single try. Yours are too. You're completely impolite to just bang those aside and drop it like it's not even a regular feedback for you. Look all of those ranting feedbacks in Disqus if you do need those reviews. So keep that in mind.

In either today or tomorrow, I'll be trying to look over on this stuff and will give out my personal opinion on my revision to this.
My additional 2 cents is how can you be this unprofessional in replying to mods that aren't even that aggressive. Modders are there because they want to help make the map better and address issues that players have brought up too but if this is the way you want to handle things then we should let the QAT handle this instead.
-mint-
wanting to make a pp map is basically implied in your p//s jumpstream section to which what is mapped in that section is completely different to what is in the song.

also, just wanted to say something about the difficulty name... it's even worse than naming your diff "POP MUSIC!!" in a kpop song, as evening put it

Topic Starter
Sandalphon

Abraxos wrote:

a case against this map:


how completely disgusting of you to say such a thing to someone who's trying to help.
I dont need "luck" to rank my map, any thing wrong with that?

you're ignoring his point about the patterns neglecting the song as it is; if you believe that your current pattern is fine then stand up to the point and make a case for yourself instead of asking, again, someone who's trying to help you improve your map to "make a map themselves to their liking". i'm sorry but we all share the ranked section so whether you like it or not you will have to stand up for yourself and take responsibility for your own things
His think his pattern is better and I think mine is better, just different mapping choice between different mapper, why should i explain more. If you want more explanation, "i think my pattern fits the music more" simple as that. As you said we all share the ranked section, then people should try to accept different mapping idea instead of focusing someone to accept their mod

before you argue that "you're the one who's being attacked here" stop yourself for a minute and think whether or not these people care enough about you to attack you or care about the quality of the rank section
its the wording, using words like "your map is a mess" "should remap this whole section", and still call it a help? no thank you


i think this shows not only me but everyone else how victimized you believe you are. of all the things and people and systems in the world to blame and you never thought to take a look at yourself and what you've actually done.
I would like to know what you mean by "what i've done".

i can only hope you wake up from it and actually start taking responsibility for your own map.

i apologize if this comes off as aggressive but i do not like it and will never stand for it when people shirk themselves in a corner when criticism arrives and point to the "oppressor" and scream how they're being "unreasonably being attacked".
err... pls dont try to guess my thought here

edit: i'm not continuing this mod, i don't see a reason to when the mapper is this entrenched in his own victim complexes

speedcore

[PATTERNING]
00:12:693 (12693|3,12808|2) - no attempt at differentiation even though there's bass beats?
00:13:500 (13500|2,13616|0) - similarly, i won't repeat myself

00:19:385 (19385|3,19385|0,19616|3,19616|0) - different pitches?

i'm not sure if you noticed but
00:19:616 (19616|0,19731|1,19846|0,19962|1,20077|0) - 1
00:21:577 (21577|1,21693|0,21808|1,21923|0) - 2
00:23:308 (23308|0,23423|1,23539|0,23654|1,23770|0) - 3
why do all of them center on the same hand?
i would understand if 1 & 3 utilized the same patterning cause the song repeats but 2 is eehh

00:26:193 (26193|0,26308|2,26308|0) - i get what you're trying to do here but sorry it's not doing what you think it does
00:28:039 (28039|0,28154|1,28154|0) - if you take a closer listen the one above is completely different in pitch and tone, yet both are represented in the same column

00:31:962 (31962|3,31962|2,32077|2,32077|3) - are they the same pitch? if not why are they in the same column then $$

00:32:539 (32539|2,32539|1,32770|0,32770|3) - funnily enough, these are the same pitches - yet they lack the representation as shown above
you copy pasted didn't you

reference $$ and %% for this point
00:34:385 (34385|2,34385|1,34616|3,34616|0) - you hear those wobs in the song? yeah you could've used those to your advantage by differentiating your doubles here but alas $$ and this are the same so nope this whole section has completely no nuance. add on %% and i think you should be able to see why people are complaining about how plain this map is

00:50:077 (50077|0,50193|0,50308|0,50423|0) - this is horrendous to play as a starting burst
00:50:712 (50712|3,50770|3) - this one is pretty bad, 260 jumptrills and then a minijack? it's not that there's anything wrong layering-wise, i just take issue with how sudden this one is, which is kinda the music's fault but then again it's not like you didn't have the freedom to make it less awkward

let's talk patterning now

00:50:308 (50308|1,50308|0,50366|2,50366|3,50423|0,50423|1,50481|3,50481|2) - i'm pretty darn sure this is a different bass beat than
00:50:539 (50539|0,50539|1,50596|2,50596|3,50654|1,50654|0,50712|2,50712|3) - so i don't understand why they're all bunched up in this jumptrill

01:08:770 (68770|1,68770|3,69000|1,69000|3) - different pitches, same column

01:11:885 (71885|0,71885|3,72000|2,72000|3) - these are the notes that have the same pitches, yes?
01:12:000 (72000|3,72000|2,72116|2,72116|3) - if yes to above, then why are these then the same columns?

01:16:846 (76846|2,76846|3,77077|2,77077|1,77308|0,77308|1) -
01:18:693 (78693|2,78693|3,78923|0,78923|1,79154|2,79154|3) -
we agree that these are the same pitches of notes, yes?
then why are they patterned differently?

01:21:693 (81693|3,81693|0,81693|2,81808|1) - you couldn't keep the jacking up here?
01:22:154 (82154|3,82154|0,82270|1) - here too?
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9283807 - i dont see why you wouldn't want to keep the difficulty here at least somewhat consistent

01:27:173 (87173|0,87231|0) - this has no justification layering-wise so i'm putting it here - why end this part on a jack?

pay attention to which hand all the notes i highlight land on
01:27:693 (87693|3,87693|2,87808|2,87808|3) -
01:28:039 (88039|2,88039|3,88154|3,88270|2,88270|3,88385|2,88385|3,88500|3,88500|2) -
01:28:731 (88731|2,88731|3,88846|3,88846|2) -
01:29:077 (89077|2,89077|3,89193|3,89193|2) -
01:29:539 (89539|2,89539|3,89654|3,89654|2) -
01:29:885 (89885|3,90000|3,90116|3) -
01:31:385 (91385|3,91500|2,91500|3,91616|3,91616|2) -
01:31:846 (91846|2,91846|3,91962|3,92077|2,92077|3,92193|2,92193|3) -
01:32:423 (92423|3,92423|2,92539|2,92539|3) -
01:32:770 (92770|3,92770|2,92885|3,92885|2,93000|3) -

can you see anything wrong with how the whole section is layering? do you think (at least for the beginning of the section) the section is a bit heavy on the right?
and before you bring up the "this section is right then left" 01:29:539 - and 01:30:231 - disqualifies it
not that it has any merit to begin with, why would you want to make the section alternatingly right-left biased

this song is horrible to chart, 01:27:693 - i perfectly understand how you didn't want to overload this section and it's really not that much your fault than it is the song (kobaryo is generally pretty meh anyway)

01:30:923 (90923|0,90923|3,91154|0,91154|3) - could've emphasized these more

again,
01:35:193 (95193|3,95193|2,95308|0,95308|1,95423|3,95423|2) -
01:37:039 (97039|3,97039|2,97154|1,97154|0,97270|2,97270|1) -
same beats but different representation

01:36:462 (96462|1,96462|0,96577|2,96577|3) - i don't get why the bass beats don't get the jack but 01:36:577 (96577|2,96577|3,96693|3,96693|0) - the bass-woob ones do, it just misplaces your emphasis on the bass here and makes everything seem messy and convoluted

01:37:500 (97500|1,97500|0,97616|1,97616|0,97731|0) - i don't understand this one




[LAYERING]
complete mess

00:17:193 - there's a bass beat here
00:19:270 - hihat

00:20:885 - bass beat, don't skimp on the double just because it's after muh triple there's still emphasis there

00:26:423 - 00:30:116 - hihat

00:30:462 (30462|1,30462|0,30462|3) - why are these notes emphasized to such an extreme? i don't hear any crashes

00:37:154 - not sure why you ignored the 1/4s here, it's not like you couldn't have done a normal 1/4 stream just for this part because hey there's actually differentiation in this song that you can use to make your map less copy pasted maybe %%
00:37:962 (37962|2,38077|3,38077|0,38193|1) - same as above, you could've done some sort of jack progression but nope nothing %%

00:51:000 (51000|0,51116|0,51231|0) - quirky layering
00:51:000 (51000|2,51000|0,51000|3,51231|2,51231|0,51231|3) - because these are the same triples - why are they the same

let's talk hypocrisy

00:52:212 (52212|3,52327|0) - these can very readily be argued as ghost notes, but for the sake of patterning and my argument let's say these are allowed
then 00:53:135 - 00:53:250 - 00:53:366 - are all inconsistent and fucked by that because they all have that same "note echo"
not only that, 00:52:616 - the patterning itself becomes really right-heavy
in summary, i don't see why you shouldn't remove those "note echo" notes because they're a) messing up the patterning and b) structurally inconsistent

00:53:770 - to 00:54:462 - there are 1/4 snares here you skipped over

01:02:308 - this snare is so blatantly missed
even if you make the argument "hey i'm only following the synths" it just seems lazy to me that you could not have tried to incorporate them into your patterning somehow? because they're part of the song you're trying to chart here and shouldn't we as charters be striving to represent the song as well as possible?

01:08:193 (68193|0,68308|0,68308|1) - either
a) you make them not stack because they're not the same pitches or
b) 01:08:193 - you make this a double

01:10:962 - snare
before you argue that you're mostly following the synths here 01:09:923 (69923|0) - 01:11:770 (71770|1) - you might want to consider that these notes lead players into thinking that percussion is actually being followed too. if you so want to make it such that you don't have to place a note at 01:10:962 - then you better make sure that the synth sections are actually distinct from each other in this section

01:16:154 - a bit weird how there's no notes here just LN releases

01:23:539 - you can most definitely have LNs here
01:21:923 - 01:23:770 - these are the same wubs actually
01:25:385 - NOW this one is inexcusable because there's no wub sound anywhere; besides the fact that this shows some measurable form of incompetency in basic layering understanding i think it shows that you're copy-pasting too

01:25:616 - wub here btw but it's fine if you ignore this one

01:25:846 - i guess you hands are bound layering-wise but i still wouldn't regard this as optimal, you could've very well done a jumpstream which emphasizes more on the synths in the music
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9283841 - something like this might even work fine, even though it's a bit crude as of now

01:35:885 (95885|1,95885|0,95885|3,96116|0,96116|1,96116|3) - same triple but different pitch?
01:35:885 (95885|3,96000|3,96116|3) - it's also why you get these things

01:42:000 - not sure why this is doubled really, there's no strong sound except for a yawn which seems pretty soft to me

RemFangirl wrote:

Okay, so I'm actually kinda looking forward to the modding discussion and feel like I'll say a word about this one.
First, I actually played the 2 hardest diffs on this map, and I can completely say this is legit pp giveaway. Given that this map isn't hard to play mainly because of the absurd spamming trills, you're not supposed to do that in the similar fashion to the genre has in this song. Sure, it's a really upbeat speedcore, but that doesn't mean your pattern is justifiable and can go on like "oh, this map has lots of tricky rhythmical structure, probably I should go with the hard stuffs and repetitive things on and on". Do not even try to get this one in a ranked state even with a situation like this.
Not like i'm the one who set the high SR, i map what i think its correct, if you dont agree then you are welcome to point out, but i wouldnt accept things like "because this is easy pp so you should make the pattern structure harder" no
Second and lastly, you are even trying to ignore what the modders will give out better solutions for you.
I reply each mod with my reason, i cant agree with the modder =/= i ignore their mod. Think again
Not even anyone could chart maps perfectly in just a single try. Yours are too. since when i say my map is perfect
You're completely impolite to just bang those aside and drop it like it's not even a regular feedback for you. Look all of those ranting feedbacks in Disqus if you do need those reviews. So keep that in mind. if you want people to take your post seriously, then you shouldnt do it on disqus, that section is for meme

In either today or tomorrow, I'll be trying to look over on this stuff and will give out my personal opinion on my revision to this.
Will check the mod tonight
-mint-

YaHao wrote:

if you want people to take your post seriously, then you shouldnt do it on disqus, that section is for meme
some of the posts on there are actually serious though. i must admit, most of them are jokes, but saying this just comes to show that you didnt really read the comments section through.
Topic Starter
Sandalphon

qqqant wrote:

YaHao wrote:

if you want people to take your post seriously, then you shouldnt do it on disqus, that section is for meme
some of the posts on there are actually serious though. i must admit, most of them are jokes, but saying this just comes to show that you didnt really read the comments section through.
post it here if you want my reply/thought, in case you dont know, thats how modding work

qqqant wrote:

wanting to make a pp map is basically implied in your p//s jumpstream section to which what is mapped in that section is completely different to what is in the song.

also, just wanted to say something about the difficulty name... it's even worse than naming your diff "POP MUSIC!!" in a kpop song, as evening put it

00:52:673 (52673|0,52904|0) - there isnt even any sound here. remove these and 00:52:731 (52731|3,52731|2,52789|1,52789|0,52846|2,52846|3) - Ctrl+H this //hihat
Because i didnt remove the notes as its for hihat, so the Ctrl+H will also be rejected. Do i really need to explain this much?
Its not wrong to use diff name like this,not against any RC. if you dont like it, then too bad
-mint-

YaHao wrote:

post it here if you want my reply/thought, in case you dont know, thats how modding work
I know - but people usually still post in the Disqus for feedback (although not often, it does happen). As the mapper you should be checking the Disqus to see if there are really any problems that people addressed in there. Even a reply saying "go to forum if you want to get your opinion heard" is fine because that means you read it, man

YaHao wrote:

qqqant wrote:

wanting to make a pp map is basically implied in your p//s jumpstream section to which what is mapped in that section is completely different to what is in the song.

also, just wanted to say something about the difficulty name... it's even worse than naming your diff "POP MUSIC!!" in a kpop song, as evening put it

00:52:673 (52673|0,52904|0) - there isnt even any sound here. remove these and 00:52:731 (52731|3,52731|2,52789|1,52789|0,52846|2,52846|3) - Ctrl+H this //hihat
Because i didnt remove the notes as its for hihat, so the Ctrl+H will also be rejected. Do i really need to explain this much?
Ok that makes sense. So you're not going to reply to my first two statements? Ok

EDIT: ok so it seems you either edited your reply or i missed the last line sorry bout that
Raveille
ill remove this since abraxos already came with a response.
Abraxos
i'm not letting this rest this easy

YaHao wrote:

Abraxos wrote:

a case against this map:


you're ignoring his point about the patterns neglecting the song as it is; if you believe that your current pattern is fine then stand up to the point and make a case for yourself instead of asking, again, someone who's trying to help you improve your map to "make a map themselves to their liking". i'm sorry but we all share the ranked section so whether you like it or not you will have to stand up for yourself and take responsibility for your own things
His think his pattern is better and I think mine is better, just different mapping choice between different mapper, why should i explain more. If you want more explanation, "i think my pattern fits the music more" simple as that. As you said we all share the ranked section, then people should try to accept different mapping idea instead of focusing someone to accept their mod

you're missing the point again, can you explain why you chose these patterns that neglect the song at that point in time or are you going to resort to meta-critical analysis of "different" mapping choices and preferences? you're right to say that we should accept different ideas but then you lose that critical filter for quality and suddenly all kinds of garbage are now acceptable because "hey, we should accept different ideas right?"

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

before you argue that "you're the one who's being attacked here" stop yourself for a minute and think whether or not these people care enough about you to attack you or care about the quality of the rank section
its the wording, using words like "your map is a mess" "should remap this whole section", and still call it a help? no thank you

i'm sorry but nowhere in this thread does it say "kindergarten". you're in the real world, learn to deal with harsh criticism and learn to filter out the points that are actually useful for you rather than getting hurt because of wording and shutting down discussion

since you DID bring up wording as an issue let me produce a gallery of when your wording is inappropriate too:


how completely disgusting of you to say such a thing to someone who's trying to help.
I dont need "luck" to rank my map, any thing wrong with that?

oh, so people wishing you well is grounds for you to be condescending towards them then?



calling the other modder incompetent? is that fine by you too?

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________


i think this shows not only me but everyone else how victimized you believe you are. of all the things and people and systems in the world to blame and you never thought to take a look at yourself and what you've actually done.
I would like to know what you mean by "what i've done".

the map? you made this map? you did the mapping for this thing? you're accountable for the map aren't you?

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

i apologize if this comes off as aggressive but i do not like it and will never stand for it when people shirk themselves in a corner when criticism arrives and point to the "oppressor" and scream how they're being "unreasonably being attacked".
err... pls dont try to guess my thought here

then tell me what you actually think then, because so far you've only showed how wilfully ignorant you are being

if you want further elaboration on that i'll give you some



so feedback in the discus = useless then?



so feedback HAS to be in the thread or else your point is useless then?



oh, so wanting drums to be a double and a kick be a triple is "boring"?
calling other people's maps boring? without even doing what they did with your chart - mod them? is this fine too?



so when other people explicitly tell you that a section is boring you as a mapper decide that it's better to just straight up say that it isn't boring rather than explain the mechanics behind the section and stand up to the chart to at least try to help players understand why it isn't boring in your eyes; to facilitate discussion

Spartan-
i will not be happy until this map has difficult patterning for a 6 star,
or it isn't a 6 star anymore
Topic Starter
Sandalphon
Pls stop manipulating my words.

Abraxos wrote:

a case against this map:


you're ignoring his point about the patterns neglecting the song as it is; if you believe that your current pattern is fine then stand up to the point and make a case for yourself instead of asking, again, someone who's trying to help you improve your map to "make a map themselves to their liking". i'm sorry but we all share the ranked section so whether you like it or not you will have to stand up for yourself and take responsibility for your own things
His think his pattern is better and I think mine is better, just different mapping choice between different mapper, why should i explain more. If you want more explanation, "i think my pattern fits the music more" simple as that. As you said we all share the ranked section, then people should try to accept different mapping idea instead of focusing someone to accept their mod
I dont think LN is necessary as that section is clam, no need to add more intensity
you're missing the point again, can you explain why you chose these patterns that neglect the song at that point in time or are you going to resort to meta-critical analysis of "different" mapping choices and preferences? you're right to say that we should accept different ideas but then you lose that critical filter for quality and suddenly all kinds of garbage are now acceptable because "hey, we should accept different ideas right?"
you may think its garbage, but other people might have different thought, important thing is to find a agreement that satisfy both side
before you argue that "you're the one who's being attacked here" stop yourself for a minute and think whether or not these people care enough about you to attack you or care about the quality of the rank section
its the wording, using words like "your map is a mess" "should remap this whole section", and still call it a help? no thank you

i'm sorry but nowhere in this thread does it say "kindergarten". you're in the real world, learn to deal with harsh criticism and learn to filter out the points that are actually useful for you rather than getting hurt because of wording and shutting down discussion
how is this become "shutting down discussion", i reply every mod and if anyone want to continues i'm happy to do so
since you DID bring up wording as an issue let me produce a gallery of when your wording is inappropriate too:


how completely disgusting of you to say such a thing to someone who's trying to help.
I dont need "luck" to rank my map, any thing wrong with that?

oh, so wishing people well is grounds for you to be condescending towards them then?



calling the other modder incompetent? is that fine by you too?
again, where is this "calling the other modder incompetent" come from. If he cant even explain himself well, how can i understand his mod??


i think this shows not only me but everyone else how victimized you believe you are. of all the things and people and systems in the world to blame and you never thought to take a look at yourself and what you've actually done.
I would like to know what you mean by "what i've done".

the map? you made this map? you did the mapping for this thing? you're accountable for the map aren't you?

i apologize if this comes off as aggressive but i do not like it and will never stand for it when people shirk themselves in a corner when criticism arrives and point to the "oppressor" and scream how they're being "unreasonably being attacked".
err... pls dont try to guess my thought here

then tell me what you actually think then, because so far you've only showed how wilfully ignorant you are being

if you want further elaboration on that i'll give you some



so feedback in the discus = useless then?



so feedback HAS to be in the thread or else your point is useless then?
//I dont have the time to check thru the whole disqus and tell which one is being serious which is not, if they dont even bother to post it here, then why should i care. And i never say such thing like all of them are useless, they might have value point but if they want to voice it, post it here



oh, so wanting drums to be a double and a kick be a triple is "boring"?
//mapping is not just about stick to one single rule



so when other people explicitly tell you that a section is boring you as a mapper decide that it's better to just straight up say that it isn't boring rather than explain the mechanics behind the section and stand up to the chart to at least try to help players understand why it isn't boring in your eyes; to facilitate discussion
Seiryuu
"I don't think LN is necessary as that section is clam, no need to add more intensity"

Fair enough, at least you explained why this time.



"you may think its garbage, but other people might have different thought, important thing is to find a agreement that satisfy both side"

Obviously, this does NOT satisfy both sides, your eyes can do the job for you.




"again, where is this "calling the other modder incompetent" come from. If he cant even explain himself well, how can i understand his mod??"

He is explaining himself well, it's better to make the notes as ACCURATE as possible.




"//I dont have the time to check thru the whole disqus and tell which one is being serious which is not, if they dont even bother to post it here, then why should i care. And i never say such thing like all of them are useless, they might have value point but if they want to voice it, post it here"

Looking through Discus isn't a difficult thing. When my chart got ranked, I also looked at Discus daily for feedback. The thread isn't that long my dude, don't be lazy. Also, you can easily take out which posts are serious or not unless you have no understanding whatsoever of the English Language.



"//mapping is not just about stick to one single rule"

Yes it's not about sticking to one single rule, and you don't have to follow that, no one ever said so.


Also, stop cherry picking what you want to reply to, it's just making you look bad.
You also made yourself look like a hypocrite from your replies btw, they're the exact opposite of your previous replies to the other mods.
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Sandalphon
If that doesnt satisfy both side, then let QAT to decide which should be the best solution
Well, i think 1/2 is the snap that suit the vocal and maximize the playability
Everyone's voice matter, but again, post it here. Its not hard for me to go there and check and its also not a bit deal for them to just copy what they said and post it here. If you want your opinion to be seem
I didnt reply fully because some of the point are pointless to argue and it does no good for the map

nice editing
Melt3dCheeze

YaHao wrote:

//just because i didnt map the 1/8 doesnt mean i'm not listening to the music
There's your problem, you've stayed consistent throughout the entire map and that one section you just put iceing on the cake and some pretty sparkles to cover up the hollowness. There's a reason why 2 other people pointed out that section riddled with ghost notes. It's pretty big issue if more than one person points it out, similar to the way how ranking maps is structured.

If you really think in this day and age we're all scared over note division of 1/8 and used that as a justification tool then :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:. The ending of that section uses 1/8 OH GOOLY WE GOT PRANKED XD!! In a musical context no one gives a damn about note division it's only a representation of note value, and without context it's just a number.

YaHao wrote:

His think his pattern is better and I think mine is better, just different mapping choice between different mapper, why should i explain more. If you want more explanation, "i think my pattern fits the music more" simple as that.


What world are you from? I came fresh out of Uranus because this is a poop assumption.
Even though you want that section to be nice and easy, what's so hard about LN + Rice? I feel like you copy pasta'd some Love Live Normal Diff map to the song and called it a day.

YaHao wrote:

As you said we all share the ranked section, then people should try to accept different mapping idea instead of focusing someone to accept their mod

I'm sitting here with two kudosu, TWO KUDOSU. Do you think I give a damn about accepting mods, I'm here to question your mapping choice.
Seiryuu
I have officially given up, it's been a very long time ever since I've seen someone this dense. This is the last post I'll make here if it doesn't convince you, so be it, you can live your life without any criticism or improvement to your charts then.


"Everyone's voice matter, but again, post it here. Its not hard for me to go there and check and its also not a bit deal for them to just copy what they said and post it here."

This is by far the worst excuse anyone could have given, it just shows that you don't care at all. YOU should be the one finding errors in the chart, trying to improve it the best you can with the help of the community. Not everyone wants to post on a forum only to get shut down by someone who rejects all of their suggestions.
Never forget that you're not just charting for yourself, but for the community. The audience matters a lot more than you think.


"I didnt reply fully because some of the point are pointless to argue and it does no good for the map"

Changing your attitude DOES matter to the map. Staying ignorant and stubborn forever doesn't help with anything other than making you look bad.


These posts aren't here just because we love bugging and annoying you, they're here because we want you to change for the good of yourself and the community.
But, if you're gonna take it as a personal attack and think that your chart is perfect, so be it.
-mint-
guys i wouldnt lose hope so easily. wait for QAT and hopefully that will convince

if that doesnt then this map wont be ranked unless QAT says its fine i guess, whats the big deal?
also i think this can be a good learning experience for all of us
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