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ELISA - Houyoku no Prophecia

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terametis
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2011年11月5日 at 12:47:05

Artist: ELISA
Title: Houyoku no Prophecia
BPM: 140
Filesize: 2557kb
Play Time: 01:55
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.19 stars, 74 notes)
  2. Hard (4.86 stars, 330 notes)
  3. Insane (4.99 stars, 406 notes)
  4. Normal (4 stars, 88 notes)
Download: ELISA - Houyoku no Prophecia
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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my 2nd map.
[Easy]  100%
[Normal] 100%
[Hard]  30%
[Insane] 30%


02/07/2011 Some norts of all difficulties changed.
03/07/2011 gina91189's mod thank you~~
08/07/2011 KuraiPettan's mod thank you~~
23/07/2011 PSPDS Eddie's mod thank you~~
28/07/2011 EEeee's mod thank you~~
28/07/2011 Aleks719's mod thank you~~
01/08/2011 rui's mod thank you~~
cacipan
hello :)

全部の難易度に Set Current Position as Preview Point を追加してください(ファイルメニューのTimingにあります)
Beatmap ListingやCreator's Word'sにある画像をクリックしたときに流れる曲の開始する場所を決めることができます
今はSet Current Position as Preview Pointがないので曲がプレビューできません
Topic Starter
terametis

cacipan wrote:

hello :)

全部の難易度に Set Current Position as Preview Point を追加してください(ファイルメニューのTimingにあります)
Beatmap ListingやCreator's Word'sにある画像をクリックしたときに流れる曲の開始する場所を決めることができます
今はSet Current Position as Preview Pointがないので曲がプレビューできません

修正しました!
ご指摘ありがとうございます
Muya
:) :) :)
sennheiser_old
2ch kara wwwww
romchan67
:)
rui
:D
Topic Starter
terametis
Muya , sennheiser ,romchan67 ,rui
thank you for star~~ :)
Rigeru_old
8-)
Topic Starter
terametis
Rigeru
thank you for star~~ :)
GiNa
Hi, from my queue ;3

My Mod
[General]
-You have lots of straight sliders (just like me), change some of them.
-You can find awesome sliders here: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=37194
-BG needs to be 1024x768 or 800x600

[Normal]
-SV 1.6 for Normal … too fast, lower down ;<
-Volumes are too loud, lower down them.
00:35:958 (1) – make this start at 00:36:387, but still end at 00:38:101.
00:58:672 (1,2) – end these two at white tick (which are 00:59:529 and 01:01:244)
01:02:101 (4,5) - ^ (01:02:958 and 01:04:672)
01:15:815 – start kiai here.
01:56:958 – move the last timing section (01:57:065) on here.

[Normal+]
-Why don’t you just make [Normal] easier, so it can be an [Easy], and change this from [Normal+] to [Normal].
-Same thing with volumes
01:15:815 – start kiai here
01:57:065 – move this timing section on 01:56:958

[Hard]
-Volumes
00:34:672 (1) – too close to the previous note
00:36:387 (1) - ^
00:45:815 (5) - ^
-Lots of spacing problems, recheck you map
01:15:815 – kiai here
01:57:065 – move this timing section on 01:56:958

[Insane]
-[Hard]’s SV is 1.8 already, speed up this one or lower down [Hard]’s
-Volumes
-Spacinga again, but don’t change all of them, keep some.
01:15:815 – kiai here, makes more sense.
01:57:065 – move this timing section on 01:56:958

Nice song, I think your pattern could be improve more (well … my own map sucks too, lol).
Good luck and have a star.
Topic Starter
terametis

gina91189 wrote:

Hi, from my queue ;3

My Mod
[General]
-You have lots of straight sliders (just like me), change some of them.
-You can find awesome sliders here: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=37194
-BG needs to be 1024x768 or 800x600 Fixed

[Normal] Fixed
-SV 1.6 for Normal … too fast, lower down ;< changed SV0.8
-Volumes are too loud, lower down them.
00:35:958 (1) – make this start at 00:36:387, but still end at 00:38:101.
00:58:672 (1,2) – end these two at white tick (which are 00:59:529 and 01:01:244)
01:02:101 (4,5) - ^ (01:02:958 and 01:04:672)
01:15:815 – start kiai here.
01:56:958 – move the last timing section (01:57:065) on here.

[Normal+] Fixed
-Why don’t you just make [Normal] easier, so it can be an [Easy], and change this from [Normal+] to [Normal].
-Same thing with volumes
01:15:815 – start kiai here
01:57:065 – move this timing section on 01:56:958

[Hard] Fixed
-Volumes
00:34:672 (1) – too close to the previous note
00:36:387 (1) - ^
00:45:815 (5) - ^
-Lots of spacing problems, recheck you map
01:15:815 – kiai here
01:57:065 – move this timing section on 01:56:958

[Insane]
-[Hard]’s SV is 1.8 already, speed up this one or lower down [Hard]’s changed [Hard]'s SV 1.6
-Volumes Fixed
-Spacinga again, but don’t change all of them, keep some. ok,but time is necessary
01:15:815 – kiai here, makes more sense. Fixed
01:57:065 – move this timing section on 01:56:958 Fixed


Nice song, I think your pattern could be improve more (well … my own map sucks too, lol).
Good luck and have a star.

Thanks for the mod :)
Raging Bull
Hi

General:
You could probably crop mp3 since you aren't using 60% of it. But it's up to you.

Easy:
01:12:387 (1,1) - I don't like how theres a note after a spinner on easy. Maybe remove spinner and map using sliders?
01:41:958 (1,1) - ^
01:48:815 (1,1) - ^

Normal:
HP+1
OD+1?
Seems okay to me.

Hard:
Okay to me

Insane:
01:32:637 (10) - Tricky spacing here. Maybe move it so it doesn't stack on 8?

No kudos.
mooai
good map☆彡

fight~ :)
Topic Starter
terametis

Raging Bull wrote:

Hi

General:
You could probably crop mp3 since you aren't using 60% of it. But it's up to you. Fixed
Easy:Fixed
01:12:387 (1,1) - I don't like how theres a note after a spinner on easy. Maybe remove spinner and map using sliders?
01:41:958 (1,1) - ^
01:48:815 (1,1) - ^

Normal:Fixed
HP+1
OD+1?
Seems okay to me.

Hard:
Okay to me

Insane:Fixed
01:32:637 (10) - Tricky spacing here. Maybe move it so it doesn't stack on 8?

No kudos.
Thanks for the mod :)
Kurai
See your map in #modreqs~

General
  1. The sliderslide sound sounds noisy. Mute it would be a good idea. (If you are willing to mute it, put this normal-sliderslide.wav and normal-sliderslide2.wav in your map folder and fullsubmit.)
    Download: sliderslide.rar
  2. I see that you have cut the .ogg at the end, but it would be nicer if you make a fade out instead of cuting the music suddenly. It would be more agreable.
  3. Your mapsets are too square/linear, don't forget that you can make curvilinear slider as you have made in your insane difficulty or an infinite number of different pattern to make your map original and fun and not only squared and linear patterns :/
Easy
  1. 01:05:529 (1) - This is too close from the end of the previous slider. While someone play the map, He may think that this is circle set earlier than it is. In conclusion it is confusing for the player, Even more for new players as this difficulty has been made for them.
  2. 01:28:672 (5,6,7) - Even if this pattern follow the music. I don't recommend you to use it in this kind of difficulty as this kind of pattern are more for normal difficulties. I would recommend you to make it a slider. This advice count also for the same patterns in the rest of the map.
Normal
  1. 00:44:958 (1) - This circle is too close from the previous one.
  2. 01:09:387 (2) - Extand this slider by 1/2. It will follow the vocal so it will be more intuitive.
Hard
  1. Set AR8, it will make your map very more readable
  2. 00:35:958 (4) - If you want to stack it with the end of the previous slider, do it correctly, disable the distance snap and the grid snap and stack it correctly.
  3. 00:41:744 (2,3) - These circles are hidden by 00:40:672 (3). They have to be visible if you want to ensure the playability of your map. And hidden objects are unrankable except in Insane difficulties.
  4. 01:05:529 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This pattern is completely unreadable. All circles are grouped in the same area at the point that they hide each other and it makes this part very confuse. You have to do something else here.
  5. 01:23:958 (7) - This circle is hide by (2) and (3)
  6. 01:31:244 (1,4) - These circle are hide by the slider
  7. 01:37:244 (6) - This slider is hide by (2) and (1)
  8. 01:50:101 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This part is very confuse, the spacing is fine but objects are to close to each other, look, 01:51:387 (8) and 01:51:815 (1) are close ; 01:52:029 (2) and 01:52:672 (5,6,7) too ; etc... That make the part really hard to read even if the spacing is respected.
Insane
  1. 00:36:601 (2) - There is nothing in the music that suggest this slider to end on a blue tick. This slider has to end 1/4 earlier
  2. 00:38:315 (4) - Same for this one.
  3. 00:50:744 (4) - You wanted to make this pattern symmetric, but you can't with the distance snap enabled. In this case, you can disable he distance snap and move this circle 1 grid left to get the pattern you wanted.
  4. 01:52:351 (3) - This spacing between this circle and (2) and the spacing between this circle and (4) is not the same. Make the same spacing if you want this triple to be fine.
  5. 01:53:208 (3) - Same for this one
The map is good and there's not a lot of error, but it's ruined by square/linear aspect of the map. You have to work on this if you want to make an awesome map.

Good luck~
Topic Starter
terametis

KuraiPettan wrote:

See your map in #modreqs~

General
  1. The sliderslide sound sounds noisy. Mute it would be a good idea. (If you are willing to mute it, put this normal-sliderslide.wav and normal-sliderslide2.wav in your map folder and fullsubmit.) Thanks!!! very nice idea!
    [attachment=0:c6bac]sliderslide.rar[/attachment:c6bac]
  2. I see that you have cut the .ogg at the end, but it would be nicer if you make a fade out instead of cuting the music suddenly. It would be more agreable. Fixed
  3. Your mapsets are too square/linear, don't forget that you can make curvilinear slider as you have made in your insane difficulty or an infinite number of different pattern to make your map original and fun and not only squared and linear patterns :/
OK,change some notes

EasyAll fixed
  1. 01:05:529 (1) - This is too close from the end of the previous slider. While someone play the map, He may think that this is circle set earlier than it is. In conclusion it is confusing for the player, Even more for new players as this difficulty has been made for them.
  2. 01:28:672 (5,6,7) - Even if this pattern follow the music. I don't recommend you to use it in this kind of difficulty as this kind of pattern are more for normal difficulties. I would recommend you to make it a slider. This advice count also for the same patterns in the rest of the map.
Normal All fixed
  1. 00:44:958 (1) - This circle is too close from the previous one.
  2. 01:09:387 (2) - Extand this slider by 1/2. It will follow the vocal so it will be more intuitive.
Hard All Fixed
  1. Set AR8, it will make your map very more readable
  2. 00:35:958 (4) - If you want to stack it with the end of the previous slider, do it correctly, disable the distance snap and the grid snap and stack it correctly.
  3. 00:41:744 (2,3) - These circles are hidden by 00:40:672 (3). They have to be visible if you want to ensure the playability of your map. And hidden objects are unrankable except in Insane difficulties.
  4. 01:05:529 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This pattern is completely unreadable. All circles are grouped in the same area at the point that they hide each other and it makes this part very confuse. You have to do something else here.
  5. 01:23:958 (7) - This circle is hide by (2) and (3)
  6. 01:31:244 (1,4) - These circle are hide by the slider
  7. 01:37:244 (6) - This slider is hide by (2) and (1)
  8. 01:50:101 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This part is very confuse, the spacing is fine but objects are to close to each other, look, 01:51:387 (8) and 01:51:815 (1) are close ; 01:52:029 (2) and 01:52:672 (5,6,7) too ; etc... That make the part really hard to read even if the spacing is respected.
Insane All fixed
  1. 00:36:601 (2) - There is nothing in the music that suggest this slider to end on a blue tick. This slider has to end 1/4 earlier
  2. 00:38:315 (4) - Same for this one.
  3. 00:50:744 (4) - You wanted to make this pattern symmetric, but you can't with the distance snap enabled. In this case, you can disable he distance snap and move this circle 1 grid left to get the pattern you wanted.
  4. 01:52:351 (3) - This spacing between this circle and (2) and the spacing between this circle and (4) is not the same. Make the same spacing if you want this triple to be fine.
  5. 01:53:208 (3) - Same for this one
The map is good and there's not a lot of error, but it's ruined by square/linear aspect of the map. You have to work on this if you want to make an awesome map.

Good luck~
Thanks for the mod :)
PSPDS Eddie
この曲好きだー
効果音もいい感じですね
mod reqに貼っていたので、軽いmod
赤以外はただの提案

Normal
01:05:958 (3) - スライダーEndが青線なのは態と?01:07:672 (3) - をみる感じミスだと思う
01:12:387 (1) - 1:15:387を終点(音Finish)にして同時間の(1)を消してもいいと思う
01:30:815 (6) - こういうちょっとずれるときの小ネタ。
Shift押しながら配置するとグリッド無視してぴったり水平にしてくれます。ですがここは直しても直さなくてもいいかと

Hard
01:10:244 (7,8,9) - スペーシング

Insane
00:41:101 (7) - DSをx0にして、GridSnap無効にして合わせるとぴったりになります
00:41:958 (4) - 連打の間隔を連打の間は合わせてください
01:00:172 (7,1) - などにも↑を試してみてください
Topic Starter
terametis

PSPDS Eddie wrote:

この曲好きだー
効果音もいい感じですね
mod reqに貼っていたので、軽いmod
赤以外はただの提案

Normal
01:05:958 (3) - スライダーEndが青線なのは態と?01:07:672 (3) - をみる感じミスだと思う -- 修正
01:12:387 (1) - 1:15:387を終点(音Finish)にして同時間の(1)を消してもいいと思う -- 修正
01:30:815 (6) - こういうちょっとずれるときの小ネタ。
Shift押しながら配置するとグリッド無視してぴったり水平にしてくれます。ですがここは直しても直さなくてもいいかと  

初めて知りました・・・ ありがとうございます!

Hard
01:10:244 (7,8,9) - スペーシング -- 修正

Insane
00:41:101 (7) - DSをx0にして、GridSnap無効にして合わせるとぴったりになります -- 修正
00:41:958 (4) - 連打の間隔を連打の間は合わせてください -- 修正
01:00:172 (7,1) - などにも↑を試してみてください

mod+starありがとうございます!!




mooaiさん
starありがとうごさいます!
Patchouli
そんな時もありました
EEeee
Easy
00:53:530 (3) - new combo?
01:12:387 (3) - ^

Normal
Looks good :)

Hard
01:10:351 (8,9,1) - make sure spacing is correct here, 8 isn't spaced properly, i think u wanna make it symmetrical to 01:11:101 (2,3,4) basically move 8, 9, then 1 up a bit :)

Insane
hahaha awesome

*star
Nice mapset going dude
Topic Starter
terametis

EEeee wrote:

Easy
00:53:530 (3) - new combo? Fixed
01:12:387 (3) - ^ Fixed

Normal
Looks good :)

Hard
01:10:351 (8,9,1) - make sure spacing is correct here, 8 isn't spaced properly, i think u wanna make it symmetrical to 01:11:101 (2,3,4) basically move 8, 9, then 1 up a bit :) Fixed

Insane
hahaha awesome

*star
Nice mapset going dude
thanks mod & star :)


Patchouli
thanks star :)
Aleks719
General
You are using ~ only 2/3 of song time. Some MATs can suggest you to crop audiofile. I'm not sure in this, so, it's warning from me.
What about custom combo colors?

Insane
00:55:030 (x) - add note? 2 triples are easier to play than triple+double
00:55:780 (5) - replace to 00:55:780 for ^ reason.


Hard
AR 8 like in Insane, don't like it =\
00:31:030 (1,2,3,4) - wrong. rhythm must be :
00:36:387 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - wrong. rhythm must be :
00:38:101 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
00:44:529 (4,5,1,2) - triple not on his place again. Make it in music please. try this :
00:55:887 (x) - add note
00:58:029 (6,1) - imo, will be better:
00:59:315 (3,4,5,6) - not in music again.
I won't write about tpirles. Just recheck them all.
01:17:315 (x) - add note
01:28:458 (x) - ^
01:56:958 [T]- turn off 1.50x speed here.

There are a LOT of triples. Try to make 1/4 sliders with reverse instead of some triples.

Normal
01:26:101 (6) - add nc
01:29:529 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - too much objects 1/2 are not recommended in Normals. Use sliders + sliders with reverse?
01:31:244 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
01:34:672 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^
etc

Easy
AR 4 like in Normal , I suggest to make AR -1 here
00:36:387 (1) - finish instead of clap
00:43:244 (1) - ^ add finish
00:58:672 (1) - finish instead of clap

Ok, star~
Topic Starter
terametis

Aleks719 wrote:

General
You are using ~ only 2/3 of song time. Some MATs can suggest you to crop audiofile. I'm not sure in this, so, it's warning from me.OK,it prepares
What about custom combo colors? I do not like custom color so much

Insane
00:55:030 (x) - add note? 2 triples are easier to play than triple+double Fixed
00:55:780 (5) - replace to 00:55:780 for ^ reason. Not Fixed


Hard
AR 8 like in Insane, don't like it =\ Because it became difficult to see,I think it is good with Ar8. Fixed
00:31:030 (1,2,3,4) - wrong. rhythm must be :Not Fixed
00:36:387 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - wrong. rhythm must be :Not Fixed
00:38:101 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^ Not Fixed
00:44:529 (4,5,1,2) - triple not on his place again. Make it in music please. try this :Not Fixed
00:55:887 (x) - add note Fixed
00:58:029 (6,1) - imo, will be better:Not fixed
00:59:315 (3,4,5,6) - not in music again.Not Fixed
I won't write about tpirles. Just recheck them all.
01:17:315 (x) - add note Fixed
01:28:458 (x) - ^  Not Fixed
01:56:958 [T]- turn off 1.50x speed here. Fixed

There are a LOT of triples. Try to make 1/4 sliders with reverse instead of some triples.

Normal
01:26:101 (6) - add nc Fixed
01:29:529 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - too much objects 1/2 are not recommended in Normals. Use sliders + sliders with reverse?
I do not want to use two or more sliders turned with normal,Not Fixed
01:31:244 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
01:34:672 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^
etc

Easy
AR 4 like in Normal , I suggest to make AR -1 here Fixed
00:36:387 (1) - finish instead of clap Not fixed
00:43:244 (1) - ^ add finish Not fixed
00:58:672 (1) - finish instead of clap Fixed

Ok, star~

thanks for mod & star :)
Selee
Timing is fine, but I prefer to set the offset at 2108 (+7ms)

no need for kds
Topic Starter
terametis

Selee wrote:

Timing is fine, but I prefer to set the offset at 2108 (+7ms)

no need for kds

thanks for checking :)
kanpakyin

Selee wrote:

Timing is fine, but I prefer to set the offset at 2108 (+7ms)

no need for kds
Sorry,I don't agree with this.
Personally I prefer 2098.
Just fit it in drum sound.
phonic
Hard

HP+1 AR-1

00:41:537 ~ 0043:251 までスピンをオススメします ;)

Good map

Star :)
Topic Starter
terametis

Elize wrote:

Hard

HP+1 AR-1 Not FixedFixed

00:41:537 ~ 0043:251 までスピンをオススメします ;) Fixed

Good map

Star :)
thank you for mod & star~~~ :)
Suzully
ふぁいとー :)                  
rui
Modしていただいたので私も簡単ですがmodを 気に入らない所は無視してください。

[Easy]
Timeing→Resnap All Notesで譜面のずれを直してください。現時点ではオフセットより前に最初のNoteが置かれています。
EasyでAR4は高すぎると思います。2にしてはどうでしょう。少なくともNormalと同じARはまずいです。
00:42:394 (1) clapを消してfinish追加
01:55:679 (1) Easyでこのスピンはきついです。こんな感じではどうでしょう?http://puu.sh/3RnE。

[Normal]
Timeing→Resnap All Notesで譜面のずれを直してください。
00:41:537 (1) finishの追加

[Hard]
Timeing→Resnap All Notesで譜面のずれを直してください。
HP,OD共に6にしてみてはどうでしょう?
Insaneと同じARは良くないと思います。7がいいと思います。
00:41:537 (1) finishの追加
01:10:38 (8) スペーシング

[Insane]
View→Grid levelで4にしてもう一度配置しなおしてみてください。現時点だとスペーシングにズレが生じています。(全部消すというわけではなく全てのNoteをクリックして確認すると言うこと)
00:32:537のように微妙にズレているのはピッタリ全て重ねた方がいいです。スライダーの始点終点にある程度Noteを近づけるとピッタリ重なってくれるのでこれを利用して配置しなおすといいと思います。
00:55:251(1,10) リズムにあってない気がします。このような配置はどうでしょう?http://puu.sh/3Rr8(画像では1は跡しか残ってないですがスライダーです)
00:58:037 (10) リズムにあってないと思います。終わりを00:58114にして00:58:251から00:58:572までスライダー このスライダーにNew combo 00:58:679のNew comboをはずす。こんな感じです http://puu.sh/3RpM
01:53:965 ここにNote追加
01:54:822 ^

p(´∇`)q ファイトォ~♪
Topic Starter
terametis

rui wrote:

Modしていただいたので私も簡単ですがmodを 気に入らない所は無視してください。

[Easy]
Timeing→Resnap All Notesで譜面のずれを直してください。現時点ではオフセットより前に最初のNoteが置かれています。offdet変えたの忘れてました・・・
EasyでAR4は高すぎると思います。2にしてはどうでしょう。少なくともNormalと同じARはまずいです。Fixed
00:42:394 (1) clapを消してfinish追加 Fixed
01:55:679 (1) Easyでこのスピンはきついです。こんな感じではどうでしょう?http://puu.sh/3RnE。Not fixed

[Normal]
Timeing→Resnap All Notesで譜面のずれを直してください。Fixed
00:41:537 (1) finishの追加Not fixed

[Hard]
Timeing→Resnap All Notesで譜面のずれを直してください。
HP,OD共に6にしてみてはどうでしょう?
Insaneと同じARは良くないと思います。7がいいと思います。 AR7,OD6,HP5にしました
00:41:537 (1) finishの追加Not Fixed
01:10:38 (8) スペーシングFixed

[Insane]
View→Grid levelで4にしてもう一度配置しなおしてみてください。現時点だとスペーシングにズレが生じています。(全部消すというわけではなく全てのNoteをクリックして確認すると言うこと)変えられる部分を修正しておきました
00:32:537のように微妙にズレているのはピッタリ全て重ねた方がいいです。スライダーの始点終点にある程度Noteを近づけるとピッタリ重なってくれるのでこれを利用して配置しなおすといいと思います。Fixed
00:55:251(1,10) リズムにあってない気がします。このような配置はどうでしょう?http://puu.sh/3Rr8(画像では1は跡しか残ってないですがスライダーです)偶数連打を多く入れたいと思っているのでこのままで
00:58:037 (10) リズムにあってないと思います。終わりを00:58114にして00:58:251から00:58:572までスライダー このスライダーにNew combo 00:58:679のNew comboをはずす。こんな感じです http://puu.sh/3RpM 同上
01:53:965 ここにNote追加 Not fixed
01:54:822 ^ Not fixed

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thank you mod &star~~ :)
Topic Starter
terametis
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Folder:
All good here.

I can't really mod maps that are offtime like this.
Your offset is 22 early.
Subtract 22 offset.
Topic Starter
terametis
oh...
Offset2086 ,2098 ,2108
i can't find the exact offset..

Set offset2098
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