You clearly don't see the point here Raiden. This is not an excuse, I don't even map Taiko so this doesn't affect me at all. To not work like everyone with a ranked map has done before? You think the people who complains about the system are lazy people? Ok xd. And the thing here is not that if offends ME, but offends the community. I'm not thinking in my own personal favor, so please try to avoid statements like that.
Raiden wrote:Nowhere does it say that we are obligated to icon anything we do not desire to. Nowhere does it say that we are morally obligated to not rank other BN maps because that's "disrespectful" to other mappers; in fact, that statement itself is a load of bollocks, simply a petty excuse for you not to work your way up like everyone with a ranked map has done before. We are not obligated to adjust to your safe space by not ranking a friend's or another BN's map just because that'd offend you and whatnot.
Again, please try to avoid statements like that. You look like a kid that say everything the comes to your mind.
Raiden wrote:... and we CERTAINLY worked our asses off to get it, not only by mapping and modding extremely actively, but also socializing, which seems a dead cause in here.
Again, please try to avoid statements like that. So as you say, the reason why we see the system is being abused is because we are not proactive members of this community and just because we are complaining? Seriously? C'mon Raiden, find better arguments.
Raiden wrote:The system is not being abused, but you guys are simply not being part of it by complaining instead of being proactive members of this community, and doing something about your own situation. That's what I did, that's what you all can do.
Raiden wrote:"well sucks to be you then"
I don't think so, actually what you said makes more sense imo. I won't quote everything you mentioned, but it was accurately to say that for experienced mappers, sometimes "normal mods" are not necessary. Totally agree. Specially if the map is very simplistic, as Okorin said. This is just one case that went to the extreme, 3 posts, less than 2 days and ranked.
Chromoxx wrote:Basically what Raiden said hits the spot perfectly.
Just one thing that triggered me Chromoxx was the fact that you said that we're complaining about BN's getting maps ranked faster than normal mappers because BN's have the ability that some normal mappers don't have. Actually BN's, as far as I know, aren't good mappers, but good modders. Obviously there're a lot of BN's that are already good mappers. But then, why did Raiden said that by acting he meant becoming BN so that we can rank our stuff faster? Huh? We become better mappers when we get the Beatmap Nominator tag?
Well, I didn't come here because of the actual speedrank, but of the lack of arguments that Raiden provided, and then I just said some things that came to my mind.