1. Collab (4,88 stars, 583 notes)
2. Doomsday (4,77 stars, 560 notes)
3. Easy (2,27 stars, 291 notes)
4. Normal (3,38 stars, 378 notes)

jericho2442 wrote:

aaand here is some rocking hitsounds and a small .osu showing a good way to use them, enjoy

[attachment=0:a43df]rockstar! sounds!.zip[/attachment:a43df]

Bittersweet wrote:

Coisas que se descobrem vendo profile alheio: avatar sexy, mapa ta andando e bat namorando o3o atooorum nao ter o que fazer na frente do note.

Anyways. I, I... tá planejando balancear as difs, não? o3o

Doomsday wrote:

Darn, really sorry for being late (as usual)

Anyway, hitsounds!
[attachment=0:14462]Nickelback - Rockstar (Wiinter) [Doomsday].osu[/attachment:14462]

Roddie wrote:

Oi. hi x3

General

1. Add Doomsday93 in the tags. That was Doomsday's previous username. i actually thought of doing that, but eh. ok, added
2. Keep the slider tick rate consistent for all difficulties. It's a suggestion but I recommend you do that. i'll talk to the other mappers to see if we'll keep tick 1 or 2 (:
3. No kiai time on Easy and Collab? ): Care to explain why? that was actually because i didn't think the kiai fit the song ._. i'll consider it though
4. It's probably best to remove the letterbox the black bar on the bottom covering "Nickelback" doesn't look good. :/ indeed, removed

Easy

1. 02:17:567 (1)-Move this one grid to the right. so nazi u-u changed XD

Doomsday

Nothing to point out.

Collab

Looks pretty good to me

Very nice job. Here's a kudosu star for all your hard work~

hoLysoup wrote:

SORRY wiinter took so long
:< exam is gay its k

[Collab]
00:46:733 (7) - how about ctrl+r here? makes the flow feel better hmm.. ok
00:52:775 (4) - outter curve like this? http://puu.sh/b875 nah i prefer it like this :v

!

Dusty wrote:

[Easy]
00:50:483 (4,5) - ugly overlap indeed, fixed
01:24:650 (1,2,3,4) - ^ i just didn't want (3) to be out of the grid D: but ok, fixed
01:36:733 (3,4) - ^, kinda fixed
01:43:817 (3) - awkwardly shaped slider. Maybe try moving the middle sliderpoint down and to the left a little so nazi Dx changed, hope it's better now
02:23:400 (3) - ^, except down and to the right k, fixed i guess
02:39:650 (5) - ^, down and to the left, maybe? ^


[Collab]
nice collab! thanks
nice abuse of spacing, BD. it's actually pretty cool and I didn't combobreak on it even though I suck

deserves a star, I guess. [Easy] was kind of boring, though. i actually agree. trying to find some way not to make a easy diff that isn't boring though :T

Kite wrote:

[General]
-Nazi- Set audioleadin to 2000ms in the .osu at all diffs k, done all except Doomsday (waiting for him)

[Easy]
I think it would be nice to include kiai
Hm the hitsounds in the beginning seem okay, but I wonder why you didn't put claps on the beats where there are in the music (for example 00:28:817 (3)) ok, fixed i guess
00:59:233 (1) - You should start the spinner here 00:58:400 and end it 01:00:483 with a 5% volume section mmk
01:00:900 (1) - Remove if you done the above
^ Those 2 changes let the player have more time, and the notes wont appear already while spinning (not as extreme at least)

[Collab]
I think it would be nice to include kiai
Wiinter
03:13:608 (11) - Remove this slider and add a normal beat instead, start a spinner immidiately after it and silence its end at 03:15:067 sounds way better, thanks

About the kiai, I don't think it fits the song x_x but if more people complain about it i'll probably add

Nice mapset, good job

hoLysoup wrote:

00:09:858 (7) - um NC? I think (13) combo is too long Each combo goes on for roughly 8 measures, which is what I was going for in that bit
02:19:650 (1) - remove NC? I don't see why specifically NC this. it's not changing slider velocity :O I did a new combo every 4 measures of the song. that one new combo is just how it went, I think it's alright
02:55:067 (1) - ^ ^
That's all.. nothing to say, really good difficulty :> <3

Dusty wrote:

03:56:108 (3,4) - these aren't snapped to the end of (2) Fixed

Kite wrote:

01:24:650 (1,2,1) - haha nice catface pattern :3 I was trying to go for a bunny (With the "Playboy Bunny" line), but it kinda failed. Oh well, catface is good too!

• Add letterbox during breaks in the easy and Doomsday diff
  Add the same kiai times of the doomsday's diff on the easy and collab maps, or simply use this timing points in each diff:
  
  SPOILER

  [TimingPoints]
  1317,416.666666666667,4,2,0,60,1,0
  14650,-100,4,1,1,50,0,0
  57879,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0
  61212,-100,4,1,1,65,0,0
  61317,-100,4,1,1,65,0,1
  94546,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0
  94650,-100,4,2,1,50,0,0
  101212,-100,4,1,1,50,0,0
  131212,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0
  134546,-100,4,1,1,65,0,0
  134650,-100,4,1,1,65,0,1
  181317,-100,4,1,1,65,0,0
  196212,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0
  209546,-100,4,1,1,65,0,0
  209650,-100,4,1,1,65,0,1
  242879,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0

  Set audio Lead-In 2000 like the doomsday's diff in the easy and collab please (Atm is 1996, open each map with notepad and fix it)

1. 00:04:233 (1) - This slider with new combo isn't good because you should to set new combo on the white long tick (00:04:650) when the new vocal sound starts. So fix it in this way, it fits much better the song:
   
   or in an easier way (So you have got 4 combos like the previous part):
   
2. 00:07:150 (1,2) - Exchange new combo
3. 00:10:067 (1) - Remove new combo, it's unnecessary since the sound is the same.
4. 00:14:650 (2) - Add finish, and I would exchange new combo setting it here and removing from (1)
5. 00:15:900 (1) - Remove new combo...
6. 00:47:566 - This fits the song so bad. Make in this way setting new combo at 00:47:983:
   
7. 00:52:150 (1) - This slider has to follow the vocal "So how you gonna do it?" and so, move it on the red tick when the sentence starts (00:51:942 to 00:53:192)
8. 00:55:066 (3) - What the hell this beat D: Where you placed it lol, move to x208 y136 so you don't need to fix the space with the next circle?
9. 01:01:316 (1) - Start it with a finish
10. 01:04:233 (1,2) - Exchange new combo :\ Or it would be better if you don't set new combo here, because on the next part with the same sound you didn't do it (I mean 01:09:650 (3) and 01:12:983 (3))
11. 01:17:983 (4) - New combo
12. 01:20:900 (1,2) - Exchange new combo
13. 01:41:317 (2) - I would set new combo here
14. 01:53:400 (4) - Overlap with the previous (2)
15. 01:57:567 (1,2) - Again, exchange new combo
16. 02:07:567 (1,2) - ^
17. 02:25:067 (2) - 1 grid right, give him the same "x" of (1) x252 y176
18. 02:25:483 (3) - ^ 1 grid left
19. 02:26:733 (4) - Overlap with 02:25:067 (2)
20. 02:27:150 (5) - Move to x252 y256
21. 02:37:566 (1,2) - Exchange new combo
22. 02:40:900 (1,2) - ^
23. 02:39:650 (4,1,2) - This part is so bad imho ç_ç Improve it in this way, it's perfect:
    
    SPOILER

    
24. 02:47:566 (1,2) - Omg again... exchange new combo
25. 02:50:900 (1,2) - ^ ç____ç You should to follow the music for set new comboes D:
26. 03:10:900 (1,2) - ^ :\
27. 03:13:400 (5) - Instead to use this slider where the final sound of it is so bad with the music, I would use a spinner from 03:13:400 to 03:15:067. It sounds much better but please, end it with a soft sound :\
28. 03:19:233 (1) - This slider doesn't fit the song because on the white tick should be a beat/slider with new combo. So make it in this way:
    
29. 03:29:233 This hole ruins the rhythm between map/song. Just make an 1/2 slider (03:29:233 to 03:29:650)
30. 03:56:316 (1,2) - Exchange new combo

1. 00:46:108 (1) - I think new combo is useless here
2. 01:56:525 (2) - This slider almost touches HP bar :\ I can suggest you to move it to x240 y200 so overlap the 01:57:567 (3) with 01:56:317 (1) and move 01:57:775 (4) to x376 y272. Much better.
3. 01:59:858 (2) - Make the same thing or just flip horizontally the previous part
4. 02:02:150 (5) - Aww also this slider touches the hp bar >.< Move it D:

1. 00:17:775 (2) - Improve the blanket moving this beat to x132 y276
2. 00:48:296 (3) - The sound of this beat is bad :S Remove it?
3. 00:56:942 (9) - HP bar D: Move it a bit down?
4. 01:42:983 (2) - Improve the blanket with the previous slider:
   
   SPOILER

   
5. 01:46:525 (8) - Ok this is nazi xD Fix this slider in this way, more orderly:
   
6. 01:47:150 (1) - Remove NC and use it on 01:47:983 (3)
7. 02:14:650 (2) - Start it with a finish
8. 02:19:233 (1) - Fix the shape of this slider :\
9. 02:30:692 (1) - Remove NC and use it on 02:31:317 (3)
10. 03:00:900 (7) - Move it to x380 y168, the triangle is better. (But I prefer you do in this way: http://puu.sh/cqNk but it's ok anyways)

Chewin wrote:

Hai, from my queue ~

General

• Add letterbox during breaks in the easy and Doomsday diff why? o-o it's unabled in all diffs
  Add the same kiai times of the doomsday's diff on the easy and collab maps, or simply use this timing points in each diff: as i said before.. not addind kiai time in the other diffs, i don't think it fits the song
  
  SPOILER

  [TimingPoints]
  1317,416.666666666667,4,2,0,60,1,0
  14650,-100,4,1,1,50,0,0
  57879,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0
  61212,-100,4,1,1,65,0,0
  61317,-100,4,1,1,65,0,1
  94546,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0
  94650,-100,4,2,1,50,0,0
  101212,-100,4,1,1,50,0,0
  131212,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0
  134546,-100,4,1,1,65,0,0
  134650,-100,4,1,1,65,0,1
  181317,-100,4,1,1,65,0,0
  196212,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0
  209546,-100,4,1,1,65,0,0
  209650,-100,4,1,1,65,0,1
  242879,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0

  Set audio Lead-In 2000 like the doomsday's diff in the easy and collab please (Atm is 1996, open each map with notepad and fix it) huh. forgot to submit when i first changed this x_x

Easy

1. 00:04:233 (1) - This slider with new combo isn't good because you should to set new combo on the white long tick (00:04:650) when the new vocal sound starts. So fix it in this way, it fits much better the song: uh, i think it's fine like this
   
   or in an easier way (So you have got 4 combos like the previous part):
   
2. 00:07:150 (1,2) - Exchange new combo mmk
3. 00:10:067 (1) - Remove new combo, it's unnecessary since the sound is the same. i prefer keeping low combos on easy diffs, but ok
4. 00:14:650 (2) - Add finish, and I would exchange new combo setting it here and removing from (1) added finish, kept combo
5. 00:15:900 (1) - Remove new combo... uh, i think it's fine
6. 00:47:566 - This fits the song so bad. Make in this way setting new combo at 00:47:983: uh, changed the slider, but kept new combo where it was
   
7. 00:52:150 (1) - This slider has to follow the vocal "So how you gonna do it?" and so, move it on the red tick when the sentence starts (00:51:942 to 00:53:192) i'm not using red ticks, so not keeping it how it is
8. 00:55:066 (3) - What the hell this beat D: Where you placed it lol, move to x208 y136 so you don't need to fix the space with the next circle? the fuck happened there. fixed
9. 01:01:316 (1) - Start it with a finish ok
10. 01:04:233 (1,2) - Exchange new combo :\ Or it would be better if you don't set new combo here, because on the next part with the same sound you didn't do it (I mean 01:09:650 (3) and 01:12:983 (3)) fixed
11. 01:17:983 (4) - New combo added
12. 01:20:900 (1,2) - Exchange new combo i prefer to keep it like this
13. 01:41:317 (2) - I would set new combo here nah ><
14. 01:53:400 (4) - Overlap with the previous (2) fixed
15. 01:57:567 (1,2) - Again, exchange new combo not fixed
16. 02:07:567 (1,2) - ^ ^
17. 02:25:067 (2) - 1 grid right, give him the same "x" of (1) x252 y176 it's supposed to be like this
18. 02:25:483 (3) - ^ 1 grid left fixed
19. 02:26:733 (4) - Overlap with 02:25:067 (2) fixed
20. 02:27:150 (5) - Move to x252 y256 it's supposed to be like this
21. 02:37:566 (1,2) - Exchange new combo nah ><
22. 02:40:900 (1,2) - ^ ^
23. 02:39:650 (4,1,2) - This part is so bad imho ç_ç Improve it in this way, it's perfect: that doesn't even follow distance snap D:
    
    SPOILER

    
24. 02:47:566 (1,2) - Omg again... exchange new combo not fixed
25. 02:50:900 (1,2) - ^ ç____ç You should to follow the music for set new comboes D: ^
26. 03:10:900 (1,2) - ^ :\ ^
27. 03:13:400 (5) - Instead to use this slider where the final sound of it is so bad with the music, I would use a spinner from 03:13:400 to 03:15:067. It sounds much better but please, end it with a soft sound :\ changed
28. 03:19:233 (1) - This slider doesn't fit the song because on the white tick should be a beat/slider with new combo. So make it in this way: fixed
    
29. 03:29:233 This hole ruins the rhythm between map/song. Just make an 1/2 slider (03:29:233 to 03:29:650) fixed
30. 03:56:316 (1,2) - Exchange new combo i think it's fine like this

Uhn, about the new combo exchanges.. mappers have a different view when placing new combos. I have mine, you have yours, and some other mapper probably has some different one. It's not only because it's not in the way you'd place them that they're wrong, or that the mapper added them following something that isn't the music. At least in my opinion, the most important guide for modders is to respect the mapper's style. But maybe that's just me~


Collab

1. 00:48:296 (3) - The sound of this beat is bad :S Remove it? nah, i like it there
2. 01:42:983 (2) - Improve the blanket with the previous slider: uh, not changed
   
   SPOILER

   
3. 01:46:525 (8) - Ok this is nazi xD Fix this slider in this way, more orderly: fixed
   
4. 01:47:150 (1) - Remove NC and use it on 01:47:983 (3) nah
5. 02:14:650 (2) - Start it with a finish fixed
6. 02:19:233 (1) - Fix the shape of this slider :\ it's fine like this
7. 02:30:692 (1) - Remove NC and use it on 02:31:317 (3) nah
8. 03:00:900 (7) - Move it to x380 y168, the triangle is better. (But I prefer you do in this way: http://puu.sh/cqNk but it's ok anyways) fixed

OMG. I mod it for more than an hour (especially for the easy D:)
Good luck \:D/

Chewin wrote:

[*]00:56:942 (9) - HP bar D: Move it a bit down?

Meh, doesn't seem to affect much.

Wiinter wrote:

Chewin wrote:

Hai, from my queue ~

General
[list]Add letterbox during breaks in the easy and Doomsday diff why? o-o it's unabled in all diffs

Chewin wrote:

Because in the doomsday's and easy map there are breaks while in the collab there aren't.
So you should to enable it

Chewin wrote:

Doomsday

1. 00:46:108 (1) - I think new combo is useless here I add a new combo every 4 measures (well, as close as I can get it). This looks alright to me
2. 01:56:525 (2) - This slider almost touches HP bar :\ I can suggest you to move it to x240 y200 so overlap the 01:57:567 (3) with 01:56:317 (1) and move 01:57:775 (4) to x376 y272. Much better. Even though little things like that can bug me, in this case, It doesn't. I can't come up with a better way to position it anyway without ruining the symmetry (your fix isn't symmetrical though:()
3. 01:59:858 (2) - Make the same thing or just flip horizontally the previous part ^
4. 02:02:150 (5) - Aww also this slider touches the hp bar >.< Move it D:Like the last one, it doesn't bug me that much in this case. However, fixing this one while keeping the symmetry is easy, so fixed!

SapphireGhost wrote:

Most of this mod is just general overlap / blanketing / prettiness suggestions, as an advance warning.

[General]
- Tick Rate 2 on [Collab] and [Doomsday] would be great here, the sliders are rather empty at the moment and ticks provide HP recovery. (Not on [Normal] because the ticks would disappear and it would be noisy.) mmk.. on doomsday's diff it was already tick 2, but i ended up changing it to 1 to be the same in other diffs. changed it back and did it on [Hard] as well (BD, jeri.. if you have some problem with this, just lemme know)
- Yeah, the difficulty gap between [Doomsday] and [Normal] is sort of large. Not sure if it's worth making another difficulty, but it definitely could be seen as an issue, so... maybe. checking this

[Collab]
- There are several HP Bar / score number overlaps in this difficulty. It would probably look better to fix those, but it's a small issue. In general, though, the map felt a bit "messy" at times, such as notes overlapping or covering slider tracks. I've pointed out some of the more noticeable aesthetics issues, nothing too big.
00:28:817 (3,4,5) - (3) and (5) are touching here just a bit, if you could space them out a bit more to prevent that. omg nazi. ok, done
00:36:317 (1,2,3,4,5) - (1,2,3,4) should be spaced more evenly. Also, (4) and (5) could blanket more nicely. fixed the first thing, the second.. i'm not sure
00:47:775 (2,3,4) - Hm, is the 1/4 here following anything? Maybe remove (3). i liked that 1/4, but you're not the first one complaining about it, soo removed (3)
01:41:317 (1,2,3) - I don't think the song justifies an anti-jump here, so this is likely to just be confusing. askdjh i like that antijump D: his voice goes on a slower rhythm on that part (i guess o-o) are you sure i can't keep it? :c

[Normal]
- I could nazimod this difficulty if you wanted me to but it'd take a really long time, I'd just be pointing out overlaps / blankets.
01:37:983 - Hm, not sure about this. Yes, the break is good for consistency, but at this Approach Rate it also ends up being really short. You could remove the break on all difficulties, or maybe remove 01:40:483 (1) - on this difficulty, or anything else you can think of. fucking consistency Dx removed (1), even though i think it sounds a bit weird like this
02:39:650 (5,6) - For a more significant overlap, change this pattern so (6) isn't being covered by the track of (5) to avoid confusion. mmk, fixed
03:00:483 - This break seemed to be in a portion of the song that could be easily mapped, if you'd like to have a break maybe put it in the soft section that comes a bit after this? so.. if i put on that section, the break will be too small ._." since this is a long song, i thought having a break that isn't so small would be helpful for newbies D: if you still think it's better to map this part and leave the shorter break, just lemme know

Anyway, forum PM me after fixes and stuff so I can re-check this.
rawr

SapphireGhost wrote:

[Collab]
02:52:983 (7,1,2,3,4) - The notes here touch a bit, if you could readjust them slightly to avoid that. tiny tiny tiny but fixed
03:26:317 (2,3,4,5,6) - (2) and (6) would look nicer if the start and end did not overlap. no

giO- wrote:

Easy

AR +1
OD +1

00:30:067 (5) - NC?
00:50:483 (5) - ^
01:05:066 (6) - ^
01:40:275 - remove this timing section, you have already previous http://puu.sh/fav4
02:09:233 (5) - do something like this http://puu.sh/fawp adding new combo at (6) beat http://puu.sh/fawA
02:19:650 (5) - NC
make this 03:00:692 - break start from 03:01:317 -
03:31:316 (2,3,4) - move them like this http://puu.sh/fayN (1.1x distance snap)
03:40:900 (5) - NC
add spinner to 04:06:733 - from 04:08:400 -



Collab
00:52:775 (4) - spacing and curve it like this http://puu.sh/faGu , points: x:432 y:232 , x:396 y:276 , x:420 y:348


Nice mapset

BG