Doyak wrote:

[Inner Oni]
* 00:30:963 - 00:31:063 - Imo there should be notes here. As you did on 00:38:963 (86,87,88) - 00:43:763 (115,116,117) - 00:50:163 (155,156,157) - you filled out these gaps when there are more vocals present. That felt just a bit of inconsistent because 00:30:963 - was the only missing vocal beat.
mapping to the sound effect here,and decide the note(k/d)by the vocal here,and I want to keep the pattern simple as n n n nnn n n here in order to keep the consistency
* 01:04:113 (244,245,246,247,248,249,250) - I'd use kdkkddk here, mainly because 01:04:659 (250,251) - felt way different from each other, and 01:04:659 - is a very shrieking sound so imo k fits better.
yep,changed
* 01:08:536 - 01:14:022 - I doubt if putting notes here was a good choice. The drums are not like that but you made it seem like it's the case, and it's just same as 01:05:793 - 01:07:164 - etc. so I don't see why only these to be different. Same for the last part too.
I see your point...but I think if I take out these notes,the pattern will be so boring and lack of continuity...but yes there's no drum sound here,I will decide it later
* 01:15:736 - Might add a k here, because it's more intense than 01:09:993 (285,286,287,288) - so I think it needs more emphasis.
change to d kkd K...
* 01:20:107 - would use a pattern with k here, as it has the highest pitch around it.
emphasis the outstanding drum sound here,no change
* 01:29:450 (465,466) - Sudden offbeat pattern? You didn't do this on any other places.
I did it on 01:18:479 - 04:04:423 - and 04:15:395 - too XD
* 01:51:395 - It's quite a clear piano sound so filling it out seems better than just using same don 1/2s when they're clearly different.
I think these two piano sounds 01:51:480 (49,50) - are too obvious and I put d d so to emphasis them
* 02:50:109 (387,388,389,390,391,392,393,394) - They should all be in 1/6. 1/4s here don't fit with anything.
yes these are 1/6 sounds,but I think putting 1/6 in a calm section,especially after a long kiai time is not suitable :l
The beatmap strain(note density)should be higher when comes the kiai time and lower when comes the calm section.
Hope you understand that the map should not judt mapped to the music elements,but we also need to consider about the whole flow and note density...
* 02:56:982 (441,442,443) - 03:01:089 (463,464,465) - 03:02:466 (470,471,472) - 03:06:574 (492,493,494) - 03:18:909 (528,529,530) - 03:19:595 (533,534,535) - 03:23:023 (561,562,563) - 03:24:395 (568,569,570) - 03:25:081 (573,574,575) - 03:28:509 (598,599,600) - 03:29:881 (605,606,607) - 03:35:366 (650,651,652) - Should be 1/6s too. I don't think 1/4s can work as a simplification of obvious 1/6 sounds. It's also inconsistent with things like 02:45:995 (352,353,354,355) - 02:46:680 (358,359,360,361) - 03:33:995 (642,643,644,645) - where you actually used 1/6s for same sounds.
Explained,and I think for this part,though the music become a little bit more intense here,but still I don't put 1/6 here because the sound effect is not so obvious.I choose to put 1/6 for the part 03:39:995 - as it is the most intense part among these three parts.
* 03:23:881 - 03:23:966 - 03:34:852 - 03:34:938 - Any reason to not map this and leave a big empty space?
Because there is no sound effect here lol
* 03:26:281 - From here there are much more clear 1/4 beats but I don't see any density change from the previous part. Repeating same pattern 03:26:109 (581,582,583) - 03:26:452 (584,585,586) - over a different part doesn't make sense as well. Imo you should just fill all obvious 1/4s out here.
I see your point,but the 1/2 sound effect is more obvious for 03:25:595 - 03:25:766 - 03:25:938 - these parts,so I decide to divide them into triplets in order to emphasis the 1/2 sound.Also I want to prevent boring because the pattern will be the same as 03:20:109 -
* 04:01:766 (145) - You could remove this note to show that the music actually has a stop there unlike 01:15:822 - . The current pattern feels too plain.
Nice suggestion,changed

I can see how the notes for the streams on the first/last kiai are constructed but they looked a bit messy for me. Mainly because there are almost no 3 or more consecutive notes with same colors, the trains looked like more of a mix of random dons and kats rather than actually creating a solid pattern that focuses on specific sounds. Also the spots you disconnected the streams are so random that it makes me wonder how you're perceiving the music and where you wanted to emphasize more than others.
Well I tried different versions,but there are different modders say I disconnect the streams so randomly...
I try to focus on both the sound effect but as well as the drum sound qwq
If you think it's so random,can you give some better suggestion?I'll be appreciate if you do that Thanks ><

That's my 2 cents, good luck~

1. -.

1. 00:45:963 (131) - change d?
2. 01:04:840 (251) - i would remove this note note for break since confuse sound when come a velocity 175bpm also for el finish imo
3. 01:23:879 (405) - change k? you map rhythm 1/1 k
4. 01:43:764 (3) - feel better k here
5. 01:47:000 (17) - d?
6. 02:01:680 - missing note? like 01:50:709 -
7. 02:10:395 (163) - change d?
8. 02:20:280 (89) - change d and 02:20:366 (90,91) - control + g? sound combine better this pattern imo
9. 02:23:452 (118) - delete and 02:23:366 (117) - cymbal strong there also
10. 02:28:338 (172) - change k?
11. 02:38:623 (275,276) - change d is sound similar in 02:38:795 (277,278) - imo
12. 02:59:349 - feel missing note here
13. 02:59:692 (456) - k? piano is low
14. 03:00:392 - same missing
15. 03:02:466 (470,471,472) - change d maybe for variation
16. 04:45:566 - add note? hear sound drums 1/4 there

Etsu wrote:

Hi o/

Taiko mod request from my queue (NM)

[General]
Circle:
d = don - D = big don
k = kat - K = big kat

1. -.

[Inner Oni]

1. 00:45:963 (131) - change d?
2. 01:04:840 (251) - i would remove this note note for break since confuse sound when come a velocity 175bpm also for el finish imo
3. 01:23:879 (405) - change k? you map rhythm 1/1 k
   I think it's better to put d here XD
4. 01:43:764 (3) - feel better k here
   I want to emphasis the high pitch piano at 01:43:936 -
5. 01:47:000 (17) - d?
   01:46:828 (16,17,18) - I think these piano sounds are similar,so I put them all k
6. 02:01:600 - missing note? like 01:50:709 -
   map by both piano and sound fx for this part,and I think putting long notes will then focus on piano more than sfx,which leads to the mapping not balance
7. 02:10:395 (163) - change d?
   I think kdkkdk is more consistent and structual here
8. 02:20:280 (89) - change d and 02:20:366 (90,91) - control + g? sound combine better this pattern imo
   02:20:109 (87,88,89,90,91) - change to kkddd
9. 02:23:452 (118) - delete and 02:23:366 (117) - cymbal strong there also
   02:23:452 - not removing this
10. 02:28:338 (172) - change k?
    02:28:338 (172,173,174) - these three notes have obvious pitch like ddk...I think changing 02:28:338 (172) to k is not good
11. 02:38:623 (275,276) - change d is sound similar in 02:38:795 (277,278) - imo
    02:38:452 (273,274,275,276) - these four notes have similar pitch ;w;
12. 02:59:349 - feel missing note here
    As the section is calm here,I want to lower the note density,and I don't want to put too much note here...just focusing on main piano sound
13. 02:59:692 (456) - k? piano is low
    already k?
14. 03:00:392 - same missing
    explained
15. 03:02:466 (470,471,472) - change d maybe for variation
    want to be consistent
16. 04:45:566 - add note? hear sound drums 1/4 there
    add k here

1. 02:38:452 (273,274,275,276) - i wanna divide them into (273,274) and (275,276) because of pitch change of the melody. i think changing 02:38:538 (274) - to d would work.
2. 02:47:880 (369,370,371,372) - according the song, 1/3 rhythm begins 02:47:880 - . therefore, 1/3 patter should be began there.
   
   image

   
3. 02:54:223 (424,425,426) - here is where the kick is spamming. why don't you use d like 02:55:423 (433,434,435,436,437) - ? i would use kdd if i were you.
4. 03:32:452 (629,630,631,632,633,634) - on this pattern, the most important point is 03:32:795 (633,634) - i feel. change 03:32:709 (632) - to d, and we can recognize that.
5. 04:01:595 (144) - clearly high sound rings here. why don't you use k at this point?
   my suggestion here. use this as refference.
   
   image

   

thzz wrote:

hi! from my queue
very sry for terrible late ;_;
i've considered what i can write as mod for a long orz

[Inner Oni]

1. 02:38:452 (273,274,275,276) - i wanna divide them into (273,274) and (275,276) because of pitch change of the melody. i think changing 02:38:538 (274) - to d would work.
   02:38:452 (273,274,275,276) - these four notes have similar pitch,that's why I put all k for them
2. 02:47:880 (369,370,371,372) - according the song, 1/3 rhythm begins 02:47:880 - . therefore, 1/3 patter should be began there.
   
   image

   
   I think it's 1/2(but I map as 1/4 for variation),I would listen to that again
3. 02:54:223 (424,425,426) - here is where the kick is spamming. why don't you use d like 02:55:423 (433,434,435,436,437) - ? i would use kdd if i were you.
   02:54:223 (424,425,426,427,428) - these five notes have higher pitch compare to 02:55:423 (433,434,435,436,437) - these notes,that's why I put k for the former
4. 03:32:452 (629,630,631,632,633,634) - on this pattern, the most important point is 03:32:795 (633,634) - i feel. change 03:32:709 (632) - to d, and we can recognize that.
   Nice!
5. 04:01:595 (144) - clearly high sound rings here. why don't you use k at this point?
   my suggestion here. use this as refference.
   
   image

   
   want to emphasis the finisher at 04:01:938 - ,but I see your point...
   I will consider about it later

that's it
good luck o/~

404 AccNotFound wrote:

( ´ ▽ ` )ﾉツ hi~
nm from my queue~


[ General ]

d = don
k = kat
D = Big don
K = Bog kat



[ Inner Oni ]

01:45:764 (12) - fit of sound, but don't know this is right for rank. i think many of modder tells to move to 01:45:822, and i also too xD
I think it's lie on 01:45:779 - (the 1/8),but nvm just change it XD
02:32:709 (216) - delete. no sound is here, and this is the connecting part from 1/6 to 1/4, so for make little less hard.
nice find ,removed
02:49:509 (381) - delete? also mo sound, and little rest time before start 1/6.
I think it's climax here,I think I won't delete it but I will change to k to emphasis high pitch
02:49:766 (383,384,385,386) - kkkd to follow synth.
I think kkdk suits the music better
02:50:366 (391,392) - ctrl g? not to follow pitch of synth sound, matched drum snare.
map by melody here,and I think dkddk fits better XDD
pitch imo -> 02:50:280 (390) > 02:50:366 (391). i can't tell my 100% thought with English, sorry ww



that's all for me
go rank hurry !

Arrival wrote:

eeeee

01:15:394 - dk seems necessary here considering the sound of 01:15:480 (321) - and the fact that this is a build up.
ok
01:15:994 - What I dislike in the kiai time is the omnipresence of offbeat patterning that actually flow pretty poorly. Deleting notes such as 01:17:108 (334) - 01:19:851 (361) - would make it a bit better playability wise
removed ,will also consider the structure of this part too
01:47:881 (20) - Very weird, I feel like this note is offbeat by a few ms.
will confirm this part with Skylish
Ok tbh this WHOLE part feels completely offbeat, 01:46:144 (12) - after this offset, every note feels late, try giving it -5ms.
^
ok so the song is actually recorded with the ass so you'll need a really precise timing check, that I can't provide. Although I'll try to find a solution, you should look for some other mp3 files
BLAMEDJTAKA XDD,I will check the timing with Skylish soon
01:59:539 (96,97) - kkk triplet here fore some kind of emphsasis would fit well
ok
02:09:824 (159) - k here is crucial for a good flow of the 1/3 tbh
want to emphasis the strong beat of 02:09:596 (159,160,161,162,163) - these,by using d.
And also they have same pitch too
02:21:396 (99) - Move this note to 02:21:739 (102) - for a better flow and a better representation of the song
I think 1/4+1/3+1/4 is not good ;w;
02:33:396 - Why isn't it a full stream ? There is clealy a sound here and since you have a 1/1 break at 02:34:167 - this would definetly be more suitable
ok changed
02:38:624 (274) - d here for stream flow and musical fitting since its a downbeat
emm temporarily accepted,will seek for skylish's opinion
02:55:424 (432,433,434,435) - how about dk kd ?
don't fit the music at all
03:41:796 - I would add a note here and this one 03:41:967 (699) -
but not to me sorry...
04:27:396 (400) - I'd delete this note and make this part 04:28:339 - / 04:29:367 - like this
instead I apply this at 04:39:996 - ,I think it comes to the near end of the music part,that's why I put kkk D to emphasis the music here
04:41:710 (498) - Why is it a K although the same sound here 04:40:339 (490) - is a D ? I'd change it to a D and put a kkk triplet before to keep consistency and adding emphasis.
didn't fit at all :<

That's all for now

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108910,-105.263157894737,4,1,0,70,0,0
114395,-100,4,1,0,80,0,8

Skylish wrote:

As requested for timing check, NO KDS

[General]

* Refer to what you tagged me only

> 02:38:624 - I agree that a d here can improve the flow, but it is irrelevant with the down-beat (as it is the 2nd beat of a bar, which belongs to a weak beat, not even an on beat of course)

[Timing]

! 01:45:780 - this note is wrongly snapped in 1/8, it should be more accurate in 1/12 at 01:45:794 - (<--- IT IS STILL INCORRECT). When you notice that you need to shift beat snapper, you should figure out there are BPM shifting.

! You are following 175X0.95= 166.25 BPM from 01:43:423 - to 01:54:396 -


* You MUST check un-snapped objects and SV(green timing points) by yourself. I figured a lot of them when I had finished the latest timing.*

ALL Additional timing points you need from 01:43:423 - to 01:54:395 - (there's already 1 ms shifting) as below, including SV fixes and omittion of first barlines:

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108910,-105.263157894737,4,1,0,70,0,0
114395,-100,4,1,0,80,0,8

Preview of timing:



Skylish's Timing: https://puu.sh/vGvkW/788a7eba90.rar

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If you've still got timing problems, feel free to find me

Skylish wrote:

quick check b4 Arrival re-bubble, NO KDS

[ELPIS]

> 02:26:539 (152,153) - ctrl+G (d k)to have a consistant k flow at 02:25:938 - / 02:26:195 - / 02:26:452 - and 02:26:624 - / 02:26:881 - / 02:27:138 - ? 3/2 kat pattern is expected.
want to express the pitch here rather than following consistency
> 02:32:452 - another consistent k
^same as above,k doesn't fit the music well
> 02:55:767 - consider change it to k for a variated pattern? 02:55:424 (433,434,435,436) - dd dd seems a bit bored and does not show the presence of melody pitch at 02:55:767 - , while you did it well at 02:54:739 (429,430,431,432) - .
I map by drum for 02:54:739 (429,430,431,432,433,434,435,436,437,438) - these notes,which I think dd dk don't suit the drum sound at all
> 03:25:596 - the strucutre here should be similar to 03:20:110 - . A stream is forseen, considering consistency. Same stream used would be fine imo because you have enough variation尸 for the other triplets.
it'd be repetitive :<
> 04:04:424 - how about shifting it 1/4 forward to 04:04:510 - ? Having a weak beat ending is strange and inconsistent with your mapping style.
emm...at the beginning I thought following the sound effect would be better,but yes I should follow the mapping style more consistently,changed
> 04:15:396 - ^ same as above, this time is 04:15:482 - . No wonder when I try to testplay te stream, I feel the breaking point is strange.
ok
> 04:09:739 (222,223) - ctrl+G to promote a constant k for drum kick in this first half of this Kiai section.
ctrl+G doesn't fit the music pitch at all,and it need not to be constant for all the time lul
> 04:10:167 - another constant k for every '5-plet' at 04:10:167 - / 04:10:682 - / 04:11:196 -
want to develop the melody by putting more k at the high pitch places
> 04:21:139 - ^ same advice
same as above
> 04:45:824 - the strong base drum here has a lower dynamic comparing with the previous 85% section. Consider to put a 70% right here?

> 04:45:910 - similar case as above, it sounds too strong and the contrast of volume between 04:45:910 - and 04:51:396 - are unnecessarily huge. Try using 60% at 04:45:910 - .
accepted the above two
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Currently that's all, reply my little mod and find Arrival.

Arrival wrote:

Okay timing seems fine and the diff looks ready. Good luck !

#1

Surono wrote:

donkatkatdonkatkatdon(repeating) intensifies
really love the drum emphasis of this map and someth-
nvm, i lazy to continue say it ww
#2