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Snowy Heat
Hi~ Your request from topic p/5787990

General:

Better to make the volume of hitsoulds a bit lower at the beggining of the map.

Map:

01:23:882 (406) - according to the song this should be k (suggesting switching it to k ofc) so i'd rather switch 01:23:796 (405) to d.
01:26:196 (429) - for me d here sounds really strange, feels like the pattern doesn't fit here at all. I'd rather switch to d.
01:34:853 (522) - just again d sounds strange here, better switch to k and 01:34:767 (521) to d if you want.
01:36:139 - maybe add a note? Because feels empty in here.
01:59:198 (94) - k maybe.
02:20:541 - add a note (?), tune is just begging me to add a not here D:
02:24:741 (132,133) - switching these two to opposite will sound better.
02:26:712 - this one also seems like it has to have k in here.
02:32:626 (215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223) - it seems to me that this part should be in 1/6 according to melody.
02:38:112 (269,270,271,272) - kdkd will be better here.
03:01:255 (463) - d according to the music. And my finger kinda wants to press d instead of k.
03:02:626 (470) - ^
03:06:741 (492) - ^
04:09:826 (229) - same as 01:23:882 (406) that i wrote the first.
04:20:798 (350) - ^

Don't know what else to say, just wish you good luck~
Topic Starter
iloveyou4ever

Hitsu wrote:

Hi~ Your request from topic p/5787990

General:

Better to make the volume of hitsoulds a bit lower at the beggining of the map.
change to soft 60%

Map:

01:23:882 (406) - according to the song this should be k (suggesting switching it to k ofc) so i'd rather switch 01:23:796 (405) to d.
will think about it...the drum here is k but the sound effect is low pitch here,that's d...
will think about your point :thinking:

01:26:196 (429) - for me d here sounds really strange, feels like the pattern doesn't fit here at all. I'd rather switch to d.
From here,I change the whole thing to kkdkdkkdkk...
01:34:853 (522) - just again d sounds strange here, better switch to k and 01:34:767 (521) to d if you want.
same as 01:23:882 (406) -
01:36:139 - maybe add a note? Because feels empty in here.
I want here to be consistent with 01:25:167 - ,no change.
01:59:198 (94) - k maybe.
map it background sound effect here,not the piano,so I would keep this as kkd
02:20:541 - add a note (?), tune is just begging me to add a not here D:
I want to give a break here(no super long stream here XDD),so no change
02:24:741 (132,133) - switching these two to opposite will sound better.
changed :D
02:26:712 - this one also seems like it has to have k in here.
same reason as 02:20:541
02:32:626 (215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223) - it seems to me that this part should be in 1/6 according to melody.
No I think?The sound effect remains 1/4...
02:38:112 (269,270,271,272) - kdkd will be better here.
Will think about it...questionable
03:01:255 (463) - d according to the music. And my finger kinda wants to press d instead of k.
03:02:626 (470) - ^
03:06:741 (492) - ^
I see your points,but explained in previous mod
The piano pitch is quite hard in this section
I know changing to d here can reflects the pitch change
but the d hitsound doesn't fit the music at all,so no change :l

04:09:826 (229) - same as 01:23:882 (406) that i wrote the first.
04:20:798 (350) - ^
same as 01:23:882 (406) -

Don't know what else to say, just wish you good luck~
Thanks for modding :)
-[ ix Ishida xi ]-
In game mod ~
22:00 iloveyou4ever: 還有想問一下有一個位置
22:00 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 好的 w
22:00 iloveyou4ever: 01:59:879 - 02:05:365 - ,這裡我跟sound effect會不會比較好
22:01 iloveyou4ever: 01:54:394 ~ 01:59:879 -我是跟sound effect的,所以map成kkd k d k d kkd...等等
22:01 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 我覺得現在這樣很好耶
22:01 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 同時都有跟到
22:02 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 我反而覺得前面那個 kkd k d kkd 有點太死板
22:02 iloveyou4ever: 那我改一改ww
22:04 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 我覺得 01:56:279- 和 01:58:765- 可以拿掉試試看
22:05 iloveyou4ever: 01:56:279 - 我不想這裡突然斷一斷
22:05 iloveyou4ever: 好像會影響結構
22:05 iloveyou4ever: 01:58那個我拿掉了:D
22:06 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 那拿掉 01:56:708 如何 (?
22:06 iloveyou4ever: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7242746
22:06 iloveyou4ever: 我改成這樣可以嗎?
22:06 iloveyou4ever: 好的
22:07 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 再加上把 01:56:194 補上去,好像不錯 XD
22:08 iloveyou4ever: 補上去了w
22:08 iloveyou4ever: 01:56:108 - 這個轉k會不會較好(突出琴聲)
22:10 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7242783
22:10 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 那我可能會改成這樣
22:11 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 然後第二段變成 http://puu.sh/tPrmv/01ff1fe6ed.jpg
22:11 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 可是這樣我怕改動你原本的結構太多
22:12 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 不希望中間斷掉的話或許也可以考慮 http://puu.sh/tPrqv/9f1c1508cf.jpg
22:12 iloveyou4ever: em...
22:13 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 這樣我覺得節奏會稍微活躍一點,不過你不喜歡的話也不要緊 xD
22:14 iloveyou4ever: 我照你的提議再改動了一些
22:14 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 嗯嗯
22:17 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 02:18:565- 考不考慮把 71 改成 d,然後把 72 remove 掉呢 (?
22:18 iloveyou4ever: 02:18:737 - 這個beat很重,我不想無視他
22:19 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 噢,你同時也有跟鼓聲
22:19 iloveyou4ever: 對,我不想offbeat
22:20 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 那把 71 72 改成 dk 怎麼樣
22:21 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 因為旋律在那裏有種嘎然而止的感覺,相對而言雖然 beat 很重,卻沒有旋律那麼清晰,而且比較起來感覺比較高 (?
22:21 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 哇我怎麼連用兩個比較 xD
22:21 iloveyou4ever: ww
22:21 iloveyou4ever: emm...也可以:D
22:21 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: ><
22:22 iloveyou4ever: 效果挺好:o
22:22 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: Yay xD
22:23 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 除此之外我好像就沒有找到什麼可以改的部分了
22:23 iloveyou4ever: 02:22:508 - 這7連音會不會有較好的組合?
22:23 iloveyou4ever: o.o是嗎w
22:23 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 我的話可能會用 kkddkkd
22:24 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 有一種階段式往下掉的感覺
22:24 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 也比較呼應前面的 k k d k k d
22:24 iloveyou4ever: 哇想得很周全w
22:24 iloveyou4ever: 好的改了
22:24 iloveyou4ever: 02:50:108 -
22:25 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: kkkdkkd 或 kkddkkd 看你覺得哪個聽起來比較順耳 XD
22:25 iloveyou4ever: 還有這個位置
22:25 iloveyou4ever: kkddkkd比較好w
22:25 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 好 XD
22:25 iloveyou4ever: 我聽到02:50:279 - 這裡其實還是1/6
22:26 iloveyou4ever: 會不會轉1/6比較好?
22:26 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 的確
22:26 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 如果想要簡化的話我會用 http://puu.sh/tPsmZ/b643b7f9a8.jpg
22:27 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 轉 1/6 的話大概 http://puu.sh/tPsrF/ed0c342002.jpg
22:27 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 不過我覺得轉 1/6 對玩家來說辨識度反而低
22:28 iloveyou4ever: 對...
22:28 iloveyou4ever: 但是音樂是1/6 T.T
22:29 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 那就看你要怎麼取捨了 (?
22:29 iloveyou4ever: http://puu.sh/tPsCA.jpg
22:29 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: (dkkd)kd d 會變成前半是跟旋律,後半是跟鼓的感覺
22:30 iloveyou4ever: 還是選擇1/6+1/4吧...
22:30 iloveyou4ever: 02:50:537 - 我覺得加一個音比較好,因為旋律還在的
22:30 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 也行 XD
22:31 iloveyou4ever: 應該沒其他問題了w
22:31 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 好 XD
22:31 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 要把昨天 Mod 的部分補上嗎
22:31 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 我應該還記得一些
22:32 iloveyou4ever: 好的:D
22:33 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 01:18:392- 這邊把斷點改掉,350 往前挪一個 1/4,同 01:29:363- 和另一段 kiai 的同樣部分
22:34 iloveyou4ever: 01:18:478 - 即是remove這個音?
22:35 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 350 原本在 01:18:563- 不是嗎,昨天的時候 (?
22:35 iloveyou4ever: 01:18:478 - 可是這裡有旋律o.o
22:35 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 然後被我往前挪到 01:18:478-
22:35 iloveyou4ever: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7242986
22:35 iloveyou4ever: 現在是這樣o.o
22:36 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 啊,我是說昨天 mod 的部分 O:
22:36 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 如果你需要留作紀錄的話 :O
22:36 iloveyou4ever: 不是昨天吧w
22:36 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 還是前天 ? XD
22:36 iloveyou4ever: 啊原來你是說留紀錄...
22:37 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 是的 ww
22:37 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 當時應該還修改了 03:20:794 這段
22:37 iloveyou4ever: 對 :D
22:37 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 以及 03:33:737 的短串
22:38 iloveyou4ever: 你是要寫下https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7243006
22:38 iloveyou4ever: 啊我都不知打了什麼w
22:38 iloveyou4ever: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7243006
22:38 iloveyou4ever: 我改成這樣 :D
22:39 iloveyou4ever: 03:33:994 - 這裡你原本是提議dkdk,但我覺得dkkd比較好
22:39 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 嗯嗯 xD
22:39 iloveyou4ever: 轉成dkkd可是呼應03:28:508 - 這些位置
22:39 iloveyou4ever: *可以
22:39 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 的確
22:40 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 然後當時還改了甚麼 XD 不記得了
22:40 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: 大概就這樣吧 (?
22:40 iloveyou4ever: 應該就這樣ww
22:40 -[ ix Ishida xi ]-: Ok xD
22:40 iloveyou4ever: 嗯嗯,我印象差不多了XD
22:40 iloveyou4ever: 你savelog再post吧w
Surono
the power of IN-TREE-NUTS!
dont cat cat dont cat cat dont
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)و
17:13 iloveyou4ever: I can't play it too ww
17:13 Surono: oh you can.......
17:13 iloveyou4ever: Thanks for playing anyways~~ :D
17:13 iloveyou4ever: no I can't...
17:13 Surono: 04:04:679 (175,178) - every this
17:14 Surono: you can make this as don :^ I think that sound not higher like 04:04:765 (176,179) -
17:15 Surono: just that and similar others. okey the other part are dkkdkkd confirmed leeeeellllllll
17:15 iloveyou4ever: 04:01:937 - I want to consistent with this note
17:16 iloveyou4ever: yes I know your point,but I think keeping dkkdkkd...sth like this can make the whole structure better
17:17 iloveyou4ever: but I would try to add some variation for the kiai times maybe :D but not her
17:17 iloveyou4ever: *here
17:17 Surono: `_L` dem
17:18 Surono: 04:13:079 (262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287,288,289) - ,,,,,,,,,, this spam and I think there have different sound
17:18 Surono: 04:13:079 (262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276) - and 04:14:279 (276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287,288,289) -
17:19 Surono: 04:18:222 (320,321,322,323,324,325,326,327,328,329,330,331,332,333,334,335,336,337,338,339,340,341,342,343,344,345,346,347,348,349,350) - and actually this good. and okey just this `_L` can I get kudos *PLAK*
17:19 Surono: jk lool
17:21 iloveyou4ever: testing~
17:28 iloveyou4ever: emm...
17:29 Surono: a
17:30 iloveyou4ever: changed some of them :D
17:30 iloveyou4ever: but SR decrease to 6* ww
17:30 Surono: `_L` dem sr
17:30 Surono: 6 = sick, 9 = nein (germany "no") rip not sick map.. now is sick map
17:30 Surono: demm memes
17:32 iloveyou4ever: osu! needs no meme w
17:32 Surono: wwwwwwwwwww
Raphalge
this'll probably be a pretty shit mod cause I can't really mod stream maps and this already has 4 pages of mods.

[eplis]
01:08:279 (273,274,275,276) - dk kd?
01:13:764 (310,311,312,313) - ^
01:18:650 (351) - move to 01:18:564 - ? Feels weird ending streams on blue ticks.
01:29:622 (465) - ^ but move to 01:29:622 (465) -
01:51:652 (50) - k maybe?
01:59:709 (98) - ^
02:09:823 (159) - ^
02:32:452 (214) - ^
02:49:823 (384) - d for consistency with the dkkd after it?
03:09:480 (500) - delete?
03:12:223 (508) - ^
03:14:966 (515) - ^ the section feels unnecessarily long otherwise
03:41:595 (695) - d? dkdk 1/6's feel really odd :?
03:47:080 (19) - ^
03:58:052 (115) - ^
04:04:595 (174) - suggest moving to 04:04:509 -
04:27:138 (402,403,404,405) - dk kd?
04:32:623 (439,440,441,442) - ^
04:38:109 (477,478,479,480) - ^

sorry for so many ^ and I hope atleast something will be helpful :o
Topic Starter
iloveyou4ever

Raphalge wrote:

this'll probably be a pretty shit mod cause I can't really mod stream maps and this already has 4 pages of mods.
The first two pages are full of meme...

[eplis]
01:08:279 (273,274,275,276) - dk kd?
change to kd dk instead
01:13:764 (310,311,312,313) - ^
^
01:18:650 (351) - move to 01:18:564 - ? Feels weird ending streams on blue ticks.
it's how the sound effect performs :l,but yes this is hard to play...I will consider this
01:29:622 (465) - ^ but move to 01:29:622 (465) -
^
01:51:652 (50) - k maybe?
this has lower pitch compared to 01:51:995 - ,so no change
01:59:709 (98) - ^
this has lower pitch compared to 01:59:538 - ,no change :l
02:09:823 (159) - ^
The pitch for these piano sounds(02:09:566 - to 02:10:080 -)are the same,I think changing to k is not suitable
02:32:452 (214) - ^
Instead I change the one for 02:32:338 -
02:49:823 (384) - d for consistency with the dkkd after it?
I want to emphasis the high pitch melody here,so I put k here as to reflect the outstanding pitch for the sound effect here.
03:09:480 (500) - delete?
follow the background sound effect here,I think no need to delete
03:12:223 (508) - ^
^
03:14:966 (515) - ^ the section feels unnecessarily long otherwise
I think it's fine :o(idk how to explain the reason...my english is bad)
03:41:595 (695) - d? dkdk 1/6's feel really odd :?
here 03:41:595 - has the higher pitch compared to last note,I think it's fine
03:47:080 (19) - ^
same as above
03:58:052 (115) - ^
^
04:04:595 (174) - suggest moving to 04:04:509 -
reason explained at the third point
04:27:138 (402,403,404,405) - dk kd?
04:32:623 (439,440,441,442) - ^
04:38:109 (477,478,479,480) - ^
^change all to kd dk

sorry for so many ^ and I hope atleast something will be helpful :o
Thanks for modding :)
Stefan
[ΕΛΠΙΣ]
01:25:336 (420) - kkdkk feels a bit random if you compare the previous and coming pattern and usage of kat. try using kddkk instead.
02:31:766 (208,209,210,211,212,213,214) - I don't find the k usage here very well, 02:32:223 (212,213) - should be d for sure, optional you can make 02:31:880 (209) - as d too since it's slightly deeper than 02:31:423 (205,206) - .
02:43:766 (334,335,336,337,338) - since the music builds up to be lighter I don't find to repeat kdkkd works well. Use kkddk instead.
03:47:622 (25) - k at this spot is extremely strange, d sounds and works by far better.

Quite a solid map, it's something different to see parts like the first and last kiai not being continously mapped - I'd expect a big ass stream but it's something nice and interesting you didn't and split them into small combos instead, that's cool.

The flow is pretty good, although I couldn't play the longer streams properly, the "own" rhythm you add works good. You also asked for the consistency which felt good, also by checking the difficulty in the editor I barely found stuff (basically everything I've pointed above was an issue due consistency). I just had the feeling you tried to map several sounds with one specific note sound, mostly k. But that might be just me.

Hopefully you can use anything of the said things above, good luck!
Topic Starter
iloveyou4ever

Stefan wrote:

[ΕΛΠΙΣ]
01:25:336 (420) - kkdkk feels a bit random if you compare the previous and coming pattern and usage of kat. try using kddkk instead.
I map by the sound effect pitch here.
Since I use 01:25:079 - for d as it's low pitch,and I want to emphasis the high pitch sound effect at 01:25:593 -,therefore I put kkdkk here

02:31:766 (208,209,210,211,212,213,214) - I don't find the k usage here very well, 02:32:223 (212,213) - should be d for sure, optional you can make 02:31:880 (209) - as d too since it's slightly deeper than 02:31:423 (205,206) - .
Yes I see your point,changed 02:32:223 (212,213) - to d,but I don't change 02:31:880 (209) - to d as I think k hitsound fits the music more
02:43:766 (334,335,336,337,338) - since the music builds up to be lighter I don't find to repeat kdkkd works well. Use kkddk instead.
Yes kkddk is much better :D
03:47:622 (25) - k at this spot is extremely strange, d sounds and works by far better.
Ok changed as well

Quite a solid map, it's something different to see parts like the first and last kiai not being continously mapped - I'd expect a big ass stream but it's something nice and interesting you didn't and split them into small combos instead, that's cool.
I tried to put long stream at the last kiai time,but I think it doesn't fit the music at all...so I cut them into shorter streams,which is easier and gives a better emphasising on the music.
The flow is pretty good, although I couldn't play the longer streams properly, the "own" rhythm you add works good.
Thanks ><
You also asked for the consistency which felt good, also by checking the difficulty in the editor I barely found stuff (basically everything I've pointed above was an issue due consistency). I just had the feeling you tried to map several sounds with one specific note sound, mostly k. But that might be just me.
>I just had the feeling you tried to map several sounds with one specific note sound, mostly k.
Rip my english :< I can't understand it...but I hope the consistency is fine to other players as well :D


Hopefully you can use anything of the said things above, good luck!
Thanks for modding :)
Asagi Mutsuki
From the WWMTMBWDRWMTMSWHTOSRTOAHOMCF Taiko Queue, sorry for not being Jerry :P

Inner Oni
  1. 00:05:362 - This sound much, much better as a don tbh, having this as a kat hurts the emphasis of the high pitched backup vocals at 00:05:762 and the next kat
  2. 00:27:562 - Maybe change this to a big kat? Feels more natural to play
  3. 00:36:962 - eh for the previous pattern you had dk for no melody (for example 00:30:562 and 00:32:162) while having kk (for example 00:35:362 and 00:28:962), and there's a sharp note here so why not have k owo
  4. 01:06:907 (264,265) - I'd rather have this as dk to maintain consistency with 01:05:536 (255,256) (or just change the latter to kd since every other similar is a kd too but imo this as dk sounds better)
  5. 01:11:022 (292,293) - ^
  6. 04:25:765 (393,394) - ^
  7. 04:28:508 (412,413) - ^
  8. 04:31:251 (430,431) - ^
  9. 04:36:737 (468,469) - ^
  10. 04:42:222 (504,505) - ^
  11. 01:18:650 - Move this to 01:18:564 ? The way you have it now kinda reduces the impact at 01:18:736 which is at a strong beat and 01:18:564 has a lower pitch than this point too
  12. 01:29:622 - ^
  13. 01:33:307 (505,506) - The melody here isn't the same as the 01:32:364 (494,495,496,497,498,499,500,501,502) so maybe change this to dk to bring out the slight change in the music
  14. 02:10:395 - Maybe change this to a kat to emphasize the high pitch at 02:10:509 ?
  15. 02:33:823 (228,229,230,231) - owo While I like the concept of the gradual sv change, its so small that it basically doesn't have any effect on the map lol Maybe change the increase to 0.02 ? eh its just a suggestion, its perfectly fine the way it is now lol
  16. 02:48:909 - This sound more like a don since the pitch here is pretty low
  17. 02:54:909 (430,431) - Isn't there 1/6 between these notes too? Why did you ignore it when you mapped all of the 1/6 before this lol
  18. 03:27:908 - Delete this to emphasize the 1/2 melody? Also see 03:49:594 (48,49,50,51) you had 1/2 here, might as well be more consistent :P

Well its been a long time since I've last modded, sorry for nitpicking maybe a little too much ;w; The map (especially the streams) is really fun to play! I also like the "all dons then all kats" pattern at the very end owo

Good luck !
Topic Starter
iloveyou4ever

cdhsausageboy wrote:

From the WWMTMBWDRWMTMSWHTOSRTOAHOMCF Taiko Queue, sorry for not being Jerry :P it's fine ww

Inner Oni
  1. 00:05:362 - This sound much, much better as a don tbh, having this as a kat hurts the emphasis of the high pitched backup vocals at 00:05:762 and the next kat
    Nice catch :D
  2. 00:27:562 - Maybe change this to a big kat? Feels more natural to play
    But I think K K doesn't fit the music at all :<
  3. 00:36:962 - eh for the previous pattern you had dk for no melody (for example 00:30:562 and 00:32:162) while having kk (for example 00:35:362 and 00:28:962), and there's a sharp note here so why not have k owo
    my English is bad and idk how to explain XDD,I just feel d k fits the music more better at this point
  4. 01:06:907 (264,265) - I'd rather have this as dk to maintain consistency with 01:05:536 (255,256) (or just change the latter to kd since every other similar is a kd too but imo this as dk sounds better)
  5. 01:11:022 (292,293) - ^
  6. 04:25:765 (393,394) - ^
  7. 04:28:508 (412,413) - ^
  8. 04:31:251 (430,431) - ^
  9. 04:36:737 (468,469) - ^
  10. 04:42:222 (504,505) - ^
    I am sorry,but I map by the sound effect here,01:06:907 - the sound effect is like high-low pitch,that's why I put kd here
    I think consistency is not so important here.
  11. 01:18:650 - Move this to 01:18:564 ? The way you have it now kinda reduces the impact at 01:18:736 which is at a strong beat and 01:18:564 has a lower pitch than this point too
    I see your point but I map to the sound effect here,I agree that >it now kinda reduces the impact at 01:18:736 which is at a strong beat and 01:18:564 has a lower pitch than this point too<
    I will consider it later :D
  12. 01:29:622 - ^ same as above
  13. 01:33:307 (505,506) - The melody here isn't the same as the 01:32:364 (494,495,496,497,498,499,500,501,502) so maybe change this to dk to bring out the slight change in the music
    I want to emphasis the drum sound at 01:33:307 - ,and it's like high-low pitch,that's why I map as kd here
  14. 02:10:395 - Maybe change this to a kat to emphasize the high pitch at 02:10:509 ?
    it's already kat XDD
  15. 02:33:823 (228,229,230,231) - owo While I like the concept of the gradual sv change, its so small that it basically doesn't have any effect on the map lol Maybe change the increase to 0.02 ? eh its just a suggestion, its perfectly fine the way it is now lol
    0.02 is too high I think,if I changed to 1.02 and 1.04 etc,for 02:34:166 - it will become 1.1x,which is too high to me.
  16. 02:48:909 - This sound more like a don since the pitch here is pretty low
    02:48:909 (376,377,378,379) - These four timestamps are the climax for this kiai time,and the pitch is quite high,
    Yes 02:48:909 - has a lower pitch,but I prefer emphasising the music more than mapping to pitch here.
  17. 02:54:909 (430,431) - Isn't there 1/6 between these notes too? Why did you ignore it when you mapped all of the 1/6 before this lol
    I map to the drum and bass starting from 02:54:738 - as it's more dominant and the music starts going calm for the next bar
    so I don't want to put high density 1/6 notes here
  18. 03:27:908 - Delete this to emphasize the 1/2 melody? Also see 03:49:594 (48,49,50,51) you had 1/2 here, might as well be more consistent :PNice catch :D changed

Well its been a long time since I've last modded, sorry for nitpicking maybe a little too much ;w; The map (especially the streams) is really fun to play! I also like the "all dons then all kats" pattern at the very end owo
Glad to hear that you enjoy it >3<

Good luck !
Thanks for modding :)
Skylish
我黎呃KDS :D

[Timing]

* You wanna stay the overall BPM right from 02:56 to 03:07 is 175 x0.9 =157.5 ~157.

> My timing check: https://puu.sh/ugmUy/da59d4b038.rar I have done all barline omittion and SV changes. Please also check it by yourself.

[ELPIS]

(temperately I used the old timing, remember to shift notes with the new timing!!! esp. after 03:07:084 - )

> 02:04:337 (130,131,132,133,134,135,136) - how about k kdk kkd? Those high-pitch melody falling at 02:04:337 - / 02:04:679 - / 02:05:022 - should be HLed as kat except 02:05:022 - (because you are going to emphasize the upcoming instrumental part). The flow is better now imo.

> 02:07:937 - this should be expected as k even though you want to have a repeatitive patterns at 02:07:937 (147,148,149,150) - and 02:08:679 (151,152,153,154) - . Since 02:08:108 - is a new start, 02:07:937 - is still at the previous session, kat is expected and preferred.

> From 02:08:108 - to 02:09:479 - , I think a very concrete D should be put on every on-beat al though the pitch of 02:08:108 (148,149,150) - sound like K dd. Here's the rationale behind: you follow D=on-beat before; by having 02:08:108 - mapped as D, the suggestion at 02:07:937 - becomes more reasonable; 02:09:479 (156,157,158,159,160,161) - this bunch of notes share the same pitch (don).

i.e. It is a more familiar pattern, I would say...

> From 02:56:124 - to 03:07:079 - , no 1/6 ?

> 03:25:850 - a don can put here so that a consistent 'n n nnn n n nnn ...' can be shown.

> There are some 1/6 available at this session (03:18:050 - to 03:39:993 - ), not only the one at 03:33:993 - , it feels strange. All or nothing.

> 03:39:821 - there is one more note (don) right here to fill the sfx up.

Okay leave all the modding stuff to Chrom. :D

Good luck!
Topic Starter
iloveyou4ever

Skylish wrote:

我黎呃KDS :D

[Timing]

* You wanna stay the overall BPM right from 02:56 to 03:07 is 175 x0.9 =157.5 ~157.

> My timing check: https://puu.sh/ugmUy/da59d4b038.rar I have done all barline omittion and SV changes. Please also check it by yourself.
adopted

[ELPIS]

(temperately I used the old timing, remember to shift notes with the new timing!!! esp. after 03:07:084 - )

> 02:04:337 (130,131,132,133,134,135,136) - how about k kdk kkd? Those high-pitch melody falling at 02:04:337 - / 02:04:679 - / 02:05:022 - should be HLed as kat except 02:05:022 - (because you are going to emphasize the upcoming instrumental part). The flow is better now imo.
Nice changed!!

> 02:07:937 - this should be expected as k even though you want to have a repeatitive patterns at 02:07:937 (147,148,149,150) - and 02:08:679 (151,152,153,154) - . Since 02:08:108 - is a new start, 02:07:937 - is still at the previous session, kat is expected and preferred.

> From 02:08:108 - to 02:09:479 - , I think a very concrete D should be put on every on-beat al though the pitch of 02:08:108 (148,149,150) - sound like K dd. Here's the rationale behind: you follow D=on-beat before; by having 02:08:108 - mapped as D, the suggestion at 02:07:937 - becomes more reasonable; 02:09:479 (156,157,158,159,160,161) - this bunch of notes share the same pitch (don).
Accept the above all^
The new section is starting from 02:07:937 - lol,and I think K suits 02:08:108 - more,as a result I am not going to change here :<

i.e. It is a more familiar pattern, I would say...

> From 02:56:124 - to 03:07:079 - , no 1/6 ?
The music is going calm here and it's not suitable to put 1/6(high density)notes here,therefore I put 1/4 instead

> 03:25:850 - a don can put here so that a consistent 'n n nnn n n nnn ...' can be shown.
Also add one at 03:26:194 -

> There are some 1/6 available at this session (03:18:050 - to 03:39:993 - ), not only the one at 03:33:993 - , it feels strange. All or nothing.
This section is not the most climax section in the song,so I put only few 1/6 patterns,as to emphasis the climax part(starting from 03:39:994 - onwards)by using 1/6

> 03:39:821 - there is one more note (don) right here to fill the sfx up.
sorry I think there's no sfx here :<

Okay leave all the modding stuff to Chrom. :D

Good luck!
Thanks for timing and modding :D
KamizonoShinobu
Good luck on this mapset :^)
Topic Starter
iloveyou4ever

Chocola_2287 wrote:

Good luck on this mapset :^)
Thanks my lover :D
Q____X
Hi ʕ/ ·ᴥ·ʔ/ from my modding queue.

There's a lot of mods, so i gave you just a few suggestions

[Inner Oni]
01:15:736 - 01:15:907 - Maybe put notes in that spaces? i can hear a sound here, you can put like this or this
03:18:909 (528,529,530) - For me it's better kkd, fits more in my opinion, if you change that, you need to change 03:24:395 (568,569,570) - 03:29:881 (605,606,607) - 03:35:366 (650,651,652) -
03:31:852 (624) - k?
03:32:709 (632) - d?
04:49:081 (542,543) - ctrl + g?

Sorry for the short mod, the map it's really good and i can't find problems.

Good luck with rank :)
Topic Starter
iloveyou4ever

Q____X wrote:

Hi ʕ/ ·ᴥ·ʔ/ from my modding queue.

There's a lot of mods, so i gave you just a few suggestions

[Inner Oni]
01:15:736 - 01:15:907 - Maybe put notes in that spaces? i can hear a sound here, you can put like this or this
01:15:907 -not putting it because there is a finisher after this...and 175bpm 1/4 finisher is not good
01:15:736 -not putting it because I want 01:15:907 - this note to emphasis the finisher

03:18:909 (528,529,530) - For me it's better kkd, fits more in my opinion, if you change that, you need to change 03:24:395 (568,569,570) - 03:29:881 (605,606,607) - 03:35:366 (650,651,652) -
Nice!!also change note like in 03:18:909 - to k
03:31:852 (624) - k?
03:32:709 (632) - d?
03:31:766 (623,624,625,626,627,628) - these five notes have lower pitch than 03:32:452 (629,630,631,632,633,634) - these
so I put less k in the former and more for the latter

04:49:081 (542,543) - ctrl + g?
will consider about it...

Sorry for the short mod, the map it's really good and i can't find problems.

Good luck with rank :)
Thanks for modding :)
Doyak
[Inner Oni]
* 00:30:963 - 00:31:063 - Imo there should be notes here. As you did on 00:38:963 (86,87,88) - 00:43:763 (115,116,117) - 00:50:163 (155,156,157) - you filled out these gaps when there are more vocals present. That felt just a bit of inconsistent because 00:30:963 - was the only missing vocal beat.
* 01:04:113 (244,245,246,247,248,249,250) - I'd use kdkkddk here, mainly because 01:04:659 (250,251) - felt way different from each other, and 01:04:659 - is a very shrieking sound so imo k fits better.
* 01:08:536 - 01:14:022 - I doubt if putting notes here was a good choice. The drums are not like that but you made it seem like it's the case, and it's just same as 01:05:793 - 01:07:164 - etc. so I don't see why only these to be different. Same for the last part too.
* 01:15:736 - Might add a k here, because it's more intense than 01:09:993 (285,286,287,288) - so I think it needs more emphasis.
* 01:20:107 - would use a pattern with k here, as it has the highest pitch around it.
* 01:29:450 (465,466) - Sudden offbeat pattern? You didn't do this on any other places.
* 01:51:395 - It's quite a clear piano sound so filling it out seems better than just using same don 1/2s when they're clearly different.
* 02:50:109 (387,388,389,390,391,392,393,394) - They should all be in 1/6. 1/4s here don't fit with anything.
* 02:56:982 (441,442,443) - 03:01:089 (463,464,465) - 03:02:466 (470,471,472) - 03:06:574 (492,493,494) - 03:18:909 (528,529,530) - 03:19:595 (533,534,535) - 03:23:023 (561,562,563) - 03:24:395 (568,569,570) - 03:25:081 (573,574,575) - 03:28:509 (598,599,600) - 03:29:881 (605,606,607) - 03:35:366 (650,651,652) - Should be 1/6s too. I don't think 1/4s can work as a simplification of obvious 1/6 sounds. It's also inconsistent with things like 02:45:995 (352,353,354,355) - 02:46:680 (358,359,360,361) - 03:33:995 (642,643,644,645) - where you actually used 1/6s for same sounds.
* 03:23:881 - 03:23:966 - 03:34:852 - 03:34:938 - Any reason to not map this and leave a big empty space?
* 03:26:281 - From here there are much more clear 1/4 beats but I don't see any density change from the previous part. Repeating same pattern 03:26:109 (581,582,583) - 03:26:452 (584,585,586) - over a different part doesn't make sense as well. Imo you should just fill all obvious 1/4s out here.
* 04:01:766 (145) - You could remove this note to show that the music actually has a stop there unlike 01:15:822 - . The current pattern feels too plain.

I can see how the notes for the streams on the first/last kiai are constructed but they looked a bit messy for me. Mainly because there are almost no 3 or more consecutive notes with same colors, the trains looked like more of a mix of random dons and kats rather than actually creating a solid pattern that focuses on specific sounds. Also the spots you disconnected the streams are so random that it makes me wonder how you're perceiving the music and where you wanted to emphasize more than others.

That's my 2 cents, good luck~
Topic Starter
iloveyou4ever

Doyak wrote:

[Inner Oni]
* 00:30:963 - 00:31:063 - Imo there should be notes here. As you did on 00:38:963 (86,87,88) - 00:43:763 (115,116,117) - 00:50:163 (155,156,157) - you filled out these gaps when there are more vocals present. That felt just a bit of inconsistent because 00:30:963 - was the only missing vocal beat.
mapping to the sound effect here,and decide the note(k/d)by the vocal here,and I want to keep the pattern simple as n n n nnn n n here in order to keep the consistency
* 01:04:113 (244,245,246,247,248,249,250) - I'd use kdkkddk here, mainly because 01:04:659 (250,251) - felt way different from each other, and 01:04:659 - is a very shrieking sound so imo k fits better.
yep,changed :D
* 01:08:536 - 01:14:022 - I doubt if putting notes here was a good choice. The drums are not like that but you made it seem like it's the case, and it's just same as 01:05:793 - 01:07:164 - etc. so I don't see why only these to be different. Same for the last part too.
I see your point...but I think if I take out these notes,the pattern will be so boring and lack of continuity...but yes there's no drum sound here,I will decide it later
* 01:15:736 - Might add a k here, because it's more intense than 01:09:993 (285,286,287,288) - so I think it needs more emphasis.
change to d kkd K...
* 01:20:107 - would use a pattern with k here, as it has the highest pitch around it.
emphasis the outstanding drum sound here,no change
* 01:29:450 (465,466) - Sudden offbeat pattern? You didn't do this on any other places.
I did it on 01:18:479 - 04:04:423 - and 04:15:395 - too XD
* 01:51:395 - It's quite a clear piano sound so filling it out seems better than just using same don 1/2s when they're clearly different.
I think these two piano sounds 01:51:480 (49,50) - are too obvious and I put d d so to emphasis them
* 02:50:109 (387,388,389,390,391,392,393,394) - They should all be in 1/6. 1/4s here don't fit with anything.
yes these are 1/6 sounds,but I think putting 1/6 in a calm section,especially after a long kiai time is not suitable :l
The beatmap strain(note density)should be higher when comes the kiai time and lower when comes the calm section.
Hope you understand that the map should not judt mapped to the music elements,but we also need to consider about the whole flow and note density...

* 02:56:982 (441,442,443) - 03:01:089 (463,464,465) - 03:02:466 (470,471,472) - 03:06:574 (492,493,494) - 03:18:909 (528,529,530) - 03:19:595 (533,534,535) - 03:23:023 (561,562,563) - 03:24:395 (568,569,570) - 03:25:081 (573,574,575) - 03:28:509 (598,599,600) - 03:29:881 (605,606,607) - 03:35:366 (650,651,652) - Should be 1/6s too. I don't think 1/4s can work as a simplification of obvious 1/6 sounds. It's also inconsistent with things like 02:45:995 (352,353,354,355) - 02:46:680 (358,359,360,361) - 03:33:995 (642,643,644,645) - where you actually used 1/6s for same sounds.
Explained,and I think for this part,though the music become a little bit more intense here,but still I don't put 1/6 here because the sound effect is not so obvious.I choose to put 1/6 for the part 03:39:995 - as it is the most intense part among these three parts.
* 03:23:881 - 03:23:966 - 03:34:852 - 03:34:938 - Any reason to not map this and leave a big empty space?
Because there is no sound effect here lol
* 03:26:281 - From here there are much more clear 1/4 beats but I don't see any density change from the previous part. Repeating same pattern 03:26:109 (581,582,583) - 03:26:452 (584,585,586) - over a different part doesn't make sense as well. Imo you should just fill all obvious 1/4s out here.
I see your point,but the 1/2 sound effect is more obvious for 03:25:595 - 03:25:766 - 03:25:938 - these parts,so I decide to divide them into triplets in order to emphasis the 1/2 sound.Also I want to prevent boring because the pattern will be the same as 03:20:109 -
* 04:01:766 (145) - You could remove this note to show that the music actually has a stop there unlike 01:15:822 - . The current pattern feels too plain.
Nice suggestion,changed :D

I can see how the notes for the streams on the first/last kiai are constructed but they looked a bit messy for me. Mainly because there are almost no 3 or more consecutive notes with same colors, the trains looked like more of a mix of random dons and kats rather than actually creating a solid pattern that focuses on specific sounds. Also the spots you disconnected the streams are so random that it makes me wonder how you're perceiving the music and where you wanted to emphasize more than others.
Well I tried different versions,but there are different modders say I disconnect the streams so randomly...
I try to focus on both the sound effect but as well as the drum sound qwq
If you think it's so random,can you give some better suggestion?I'll be appreciate if you do that :D Thanks ><


That's my 2 cents, good luck~
Thanks for modding :)
Etsu
Hi o/

Taiko mod request from my queue (NM)

[General]
Circle:
d = don - D = big don
k = kat - K = big kat

  1. -.
[Inner Oni]
  1. 00:45:963 (131) - change d?
  2. 01:04:840 (251) - i would remove this note note for break since confuse sound when come a velocity 175bpm also for el finish imo
  3. 01:23:879 (405) - change k? you map rhythm 1/1 k
  4. 01:43:764 (3) - feel better k here
  5. 01:47:000 (17) - d?
  6. 02:01:680 - missing note? like 01:50:709 -
  7. 02:10:395 (163) - change d?
  8. 02:20:280 (89) - change d and 02:20:366 (90,91) - control + g? sound combine better this pattern imo
  9. 02:23:452 (118) - delete and 02:23:366 (117) - cymbal strong there also
  10. 02:28:338 (172) - change k?
  11. 02:38:623 (275,276) - change d is sound similar in 02:38:795 (277,278) - imo
  12. 02:59:349 - feel missing note here
  13. 02:59:692 (456) - k? piano is low
  14. 03:00:392 - same missing
  15. 03:02:466 (470,471,472) - change d maybe for variation
  16. 04:45:566 - add note? hear sound drums 1/4 there
Topic Starter
iloveyou4ever

Etsu wrote:

Hi o/

Taiko mod request from my queue (NM)

[General]
Circle:
d = don - D = big don
k = kat - K = big kat

  1. -.
[Inner Oni]
  1. 00:45:963 (131) - change d?
  2. 01:04:840 (251) - i would remove this note note for break since confuse sound when come a velocity 175bpm also for el finish imo
  3. 01:23:879 (405) - change k? you map rhythm 1/1 k
    I think it's better to put d here XD
  4. 01:43:764 (3) - feel better k here
    I want to emphasis the high pitch piano at 01:43:936 -
  5. 01:47:000 (17) - d?
    01:46:828 (16,17,18) - I think these piano sounds are similar,so I put them all k
  6. 02:01:600 - missing note? like 01:50:709 -
    map by both piano and sound fx for this part,and I think putting long notes will then focus on piano more than sfx,which leads to the mapping not balance
  7. 02:10:395 (163) - change d?
    I think kdkkdk is more consistent and structual here
  8. 02:20:280 (89) - change d and 02:20:366 (90,91) - control + g? sound combine better this pattern imo
    02:20:109 (87,88,89,90,91) - change to kkddd
  9. 02:23:452 (118) - delete and 02:23:366 (117) - cymbal strong there also
    02:23:452 - not removing this
  10. 02:28:338 (172) - change k?
    02:28:338 (172,173,174) - these three notes have obvious pitch like ddk...I think changing 02:28:338 (172) to k is not good
  11. 02:38:623 (275,276) - change d is sound similar in 02:38:795 (277,278) - imo
    02:38:452 (273,274,275,276) - these four notes have similar pitch ;w;
  12. 02:59:349 - feel missing note here
    As the section is calm here,I want to lower the note density,and I don't want to put too much note here...just focusing on main piano sound
  13. 02:59:692 (456) - k? piano is low
    already k?
  14. 03:00:392 - same missing
    explained
  15. 03:02:466 (470,471,472) - change d maybe for variation
    want to be consistent
  16. 04:45:566 - add note? hear sound drums 1/4 there
    add k here
No reply=Fixed
Thanks for modding :)
thzz
hi! from my queue
very sry for terrible late ;_;
i've considered what i can write as mod for a long orz

[Inner Oni]
  1. 02:38:452 (273,274,275,276) - i wanna divide them into (273,274) and (275,276) because of pitch change of the melody. i think changing 02:38:538 (274) - to d would work.
  2. 02:47:880 (369,370,371,372) - according the song, 1/3 rhythm begins 02:47:880 - . therefore, 1/3 patter should be began there.
  3. 02:54:223 (424,425,426) - here is where the kick is spamming. why don't you use d like 02:55:423 (433,434,435,436,437) - ? i would use kdd if i were you.
  4. 03:32:452 (629,630,631,632,633,634) - on this pattern, the most important point is 03:32:795 (633,634) - i feel. change 03:32:709 (632) - to d, and we can recognize that.
  5. 04:01:595 (144) - clearly high sound rings here. why don't you use k at this point?
    my suggestion here. use this as refference.
that's it
good luck o/~
Topic Starter
iloveyou4ever

thzz wrote:

hi! from my queue
very sry for terrible late ;_;
i've considered what i can write as mod for a long orz

[Inner Oni]
  1. 02:38:452 (273,274,275,276) - i wanna divide them into (273,274) and (275,276) because of pitch change of the melody. i think changing 02:38:538 (274) - to d would work.
    02:38:452 (273,274,275,276) - these four notes have similar pitch,that's why I put all k for them
  2. 02:47:880 (369,370,371,372) - according the song, 1/3 rhythm begins 02:47:880 - . therefore, 1/3 patter should be began there.
    I think it's 1/2(but I map as 1/4 for variation),I would listen to that again
  3. 02:54:223 (424,425,426) - here is where the kick is spamming. why don't you use d like 02:55:423 (433,434,435,436,437) - ? i would use kdd if i were you.
    02:54:223 (424,425,426,427,428) - these five notes have higher pitch compare to 02:55:423 (433,434,435,436,437) - these notes,that's why I put k for the former
  4. 03:32:452 (629,630,631,632,633,634) - on this pattern, the most important point is 03:32:795 (633,634) - i feel. change 03:32:709 (632) - to d, and we can recognize that.
    Nice!
  5. 04:01:595 (144) - clearly high sound rings here. why don't you use k at this point?
    my suggestion here. use this as refference.
    image

    want to emphasis the finisher at 04:01:938 - ,but I see your point...
    I will consider about it later
that's it
good luck o/~
Thanks for modding :)
Ozu
( ´ ▽ ` )ノツ hi~
nm from my queue~


[ General ]

d = don
k = kat
D = Big don
K = Bog kat



[ Inner Oni ]

01:45:764 (12) - fit of sound, but don't know this is right for rank. i think many of modder tells to move to 01:45:822, and i also too xD

02:32:709 (216) - delete. no sound is here, and this is the connecting part from 1/6 to 1/4, so for make little less hard.

02:49:509 (381) - delete? also mo sound, and little rest time before start 1/6.

02:49:766 (383,384,385,386) - kkkd to follow synth.

02:50:366 (391,392) - ctrl g? not to follow pitch of synth sound, matched drum snare.
pitch imo -> 02:50:280 (390) > 02:50:366 (391). i can't tell my 100% thought with English, sorry ww



that's all for me :D
go rank hurry !
Topic Starter
iloveyou4ever

404 AccNotFound wrote:

( ´ ▽ ` )ノツ hi~
nm from my queue~


[ General ]

d = don
k = kat
D = Big don
K = Bog kat



[ Inner Oni ]

01:45:764 (12) - fit of sound, but don't know this is right for rank. i think many of modder tells to move to 01:45:822, and i also too xD
I think it's lie on 01:45:779 - (the 1/8),but nvm just change it XD
02:32:709 (216) - delete. no sound is here, and this is the connecting part from 1/6 to 1/4, so for make little less hard.
nice find :D,removed
02:49:509 (381) - delete? also mo sound, and little rest time before start 1/6.
I think it's climax here,I think I won't delete it but I will change to k to emphasis high pitch
02:49:766 (383,384,385,386) - kkkd to follow synth.
I think kkdk suits the music better
02:50:366 (391,392) - ctrl g? not to follow pitch of synth sound, matched drum snare.
map by melody here,and I think dkddk fits better XDD
pitch imo -> 02:50:280 (390) > 02:50:366 (391). i can't tell my 100% thought with English, sorry ww



that's all for me :D
go rank hurry !
Thanks for modding :)
Will rank soon maybe XDD
Arrival
eeeee

01:15:394 - dk seems necessary here considering the sound of 01:15:480 (321) - and the fact that this is a build up.

01:15:994 - What I dislike in the kiai time is the omnipresence of offbeat patterning that actually flow pretty poorly. Deleting notes such as 01:17:108 (334) - 01:19:851 (361) - would make it a bit better playability wise

01:47:881 (20) - Very weird, I feel like this note is offbeat by a few ms.

Ok tbh this WHOLE part feels completely offbeat, 01:46:144 (12) - after this offset, every note feels late, try giving it -5ms.

ok so the song is actually recorded with the ass so you'll need a really precise timing check, that I can't provide. Although I'll try to find a solution, you should look for some other mp3 files

01:59:539 (96,97) - kkk triplet here fore some kind of emphsasis would fit well

02:09:824 (159) - k here is crucial for a good flow of the 1/3 tbh

02:21:396 (99) - Move this note to 02:21:739 (102) - for a better flow and a better representation of the song

02:33:396 - Why isn't it a full stream ? There is clealy a sound here and since you have a 1/1 break at 02:34:167 - this would definetly be more suitable

02:38:624 (274) - d here for stream flow and musical fitting since its a downbeat

02:55:424 (432,433,434,435) - how about dk kd ?

03:41:796 - I would add a note here and this one 03:41:967 (699) -

04:27:396 (400) - I'd delete this note and make this part 04:28:339 - / 04:29:367 - like this

04:41:710 (498) - Why is it a K although the same sound here 04:40:339 (490) - is a D ? I'd change it to a D and put a kkk triplet before to keep consistency and adding emphasis.

That's all for now
Topic Starter
iloveyou4ever

Arrival wrote:

eeeee

01:15:394 - dk seems necessary here considering the sound of 01:15:480 (321) - and the fact that this is a build up.
ok
01:15:994 - What I dislike in the kiai time is the omnipresence of offbeat patterning that actually flow pretty poorly. Deleting notes such as 01:17:108 (334) - 01:19:851 (361) - would make it a bit better playability wise
removed :D,will also consider the structure of this part too
01:47:881 (20) - Very weird, I feel like this note is offbeat by a few ms.
will confirm this part with Skylish
Ok tbh this WHOLE part feels completely offbeat, 01:46:144 (12) - after this offset, every note feels late, try giving it -5ms.
^
ok so the song is actually recorded with the ass so you'll need a really precise timing check, that I can't provide. Although I'll try to find a solution, you should look for some other mp3 files
BLAMEDJTAKA XDD,I will check the timing with Skylish soon :D
01:59:539 (96,97) - kkk triplet here fore some kind of emphsasis would fit well
ok
02:09:824 (159) - k here is crucial for a good flow of the 1/3 tbh
want to emphasis the strong beat of 02:09:596 (159,160,161,162,163) - these,by using d.
And also they have same pitch too

02:21:396 (99) - Move this note to 02:21:739 (102) - for a better flow and a better representation of the song
I think 1/4+1/3+1/4 is not good ;w;
02:33:396 - Why isn't it a full stream ? There is clealy a sound here and since you have a 1/1 break at 02:34:167 - this would definetly be more suitable
ok changed
02:38:624 (274) - d here for stream flow and musical fitting since its a downbeat
emm temporarily accepted,will seek for skylish's opinion
02:55:424 (432,433,434,435) - how about dk kd ?
don't fit the music at all
03:41:796 - I would add a note here and this one 03:41:967 (699) -
but not to me sorry...
04:27:396 (400) - I'd delete this note and make this part 04:28:339 - / 04:29:367 - like this
instead I apply this at 04:39:996 - ,I think it comes to the near end of the music part,that's why I put kkk D to emphasis the music here
04:41:710 (498) - Why is it a K although the same sound here 04:40:339 (490) - is a D ? I'd change it to a D and put a kkk triplet before to keep consistency and adding emphasis.
didn't fit at all :<

That's all for now
Thanks for modding :)
Skylish
As requested for timing check, NO KDS

[General]

* Refer to what you tagged me only

> 02:38:624 - I agree that a d here can improve the flow, but it is irrelevant with the down-beat (as it is the 2nd beat of a bar, which belongs to a weak beat, not even an on beat of course)

[Timing]

! 01:45:780 - this note is wrongly snapped in 1/8, it should be more accurate in 1/12 at 01:45:794 - (<--- IT IS STILL INCORRECT). When you notice that you need to shift beat snapper, you should figure out there are BPM shifting.

! You are following 175X0.95= 166.25 BPM from 01:43:423 - to 01:54:396 -


* You MUST check un-snapped objects and SV(green timing points) by yourself. I figured a lot of them when I had finished the latest timing.*

ALL Additional timing points you need from 01:43:423 - to 01:54:395 - (there's already 1 ms shifting) as below, including SV fixes and omittion of first barlines:

103423,-105.263157894737,4,1,0,70,0,0
104108,348.837209302326,4,1,0,70,1,8
104108,-103.092783505155,4,1,0,70,0,0
104456,337.078651685393,4,1,0,70,1,8
104456,-107.52688172043,4,1,0,70,0,0
104793,337.078651685393,4,1,0,70,1,0
104793,-107.52688172043,4,1,0,70,0,0
105467,340.909090909091,4,1,0,70,1,8
105467,-105.263157894737,4,1,0,70,0,0
105807,342.857142857143,4,1,0,70,1,8
105807,-105.263157894737,4,1,0,70,0,0
106149,340.909090909091,4,1,0,70,1,0
106149,-105.263157894737,4,1,0,70,0,0
106489,361.44578313253,4,1,0,70,1,8
106669,337.078651685393,4,1,0,70,1,8
106669,-107.52688172043,4,1,0,70,0,0
106837,365.853658536585,4,1,0,70,1,8
106837,-99.009900990099,4,1,0,70,0,0
107019,359.281437125748,4,1,0,70,1,8
107198,344.827586206897,4,1,0,70,1,8
107198,-104.166666666667,4,1,0,70,0,0
107370,326.086956521739,4,1,0,70,1,8
107370,-111.111111111111,4,1,0,70,0,0
107535,361.44578313253,4,1,0,70,1,0
107896,329.67032967033,4,1,0,70,1,8
107896,-109.89010989011,4,1,0,70,0,0
108225,342.857142857143,4,1,0,70,1,8
108225,-105.263157894737,4,1,0,70,0,0
108910,342.857142857143,4,1,0,70,1,0
108910,-105.263157894737,4,1,0,70,0,0
114395,-100,4,1,0,80,0,8

Preview of timing:



Skylish's Timing: https://puu.sh/vGvkW/788a7eba90.rar

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If you've still got timing problems, feel free to find me :D
Topic Starter
iloveyou4ever

Skylish wrote:

As requested for timing check, NO KDS

[General]

* Refer to what you tagged me only

> 02:38:624 - I agree that a d here can improve the flow, but it is irrelevant with the down-beat (as it is the 2nd beat of a bar, which belongs to a weak beat, not even an on beat of course)

[Timing]

! 01:45:780 - this note is wrongly snapped in 1/8, it should be more accurate in 1/12 at 01:45:794 - (<--- IT IS STILL INCORRECT). When you notice that you need to shift beat snapper, you should figure out there are BPM shifting.

! You are following 175X0.95= 166.25 BPM from 01:43:423 - to 01:54:396 -


* You MUST check un-snapped objects and SV(green timing points) by yourself. I figured a lot of them when I had finished the latest timing.*

ALL Additional timing points you need from 01:43:423 - to 01:54:395 - (there's already 1 ms shifting) as below, including SV fixes and omittion of first barlines:

103423,-105.263157894737,4,1,0,70,0,0
104108,348.837209302326,4,1,0,70,1,8
104108,-103.092783505155,4,1,0,70,0,0
104456,337.078651685393,4,1,0,70,1,8
104456,-107.52688172043,4,1,0,70,0,0
104793,337.078651685393,4,1,0,70,1,0
104793,-107.52688172043,4,1,0,70,0,0
105467,340.909090909091,4,1,0,70,1,8
105467,-105.263157894737,4,1,0,70,0,0
105807,342.857142857143,4,1,0,70,1,8
105807,-105.263157894737,4,1,0,70,0,0
106149,340.909090909091,4,1,0,70,1,0
106149,-105.263157894737,4,1,0,70,0,0
106489,361.44578313253,4,1,0,70,1,8
106669,337.078651685393,4,1,0,70,1,8
106669,-107.52688172043,4,1,0,70,0,0
106837,365.853658536585,4,1,0,70,1,8
106837,-99.009900990099,4,1,0,70,0,0
107019,359.281437125748,4,1,0,70,1,8
107198,344.827586206897,4,1,0,70,1,8
107198,-104.166666666667,4,1,0,70,0,0
107370,326.086956521739,4,1,0,70,1,8
107370,-111.111111111111,4,1,0,70,0,0
107535,361.44578313253,4,1,0,70,1,0
107896,329.67032967033,4,1,0,70,1,8
107896,-109.89010989011,4,1,0,70,0,0
108225,342.857142857143,4,1,0,70,1,8
108225,-105.263157894737,4,1,0,70,0,0
108910,342.857142857143,4,1,0,70,1,0
108910,-105.263157894737,4,1,0,70,0,0
114395,-100,4,1,0,80,0,8

Preview of timing:



Skylish's Timing: https://puu.sh/vGvkW/788a7eba90.rar

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If you've still got timing problems, feel free to find me :D
Thanks so muchhhhhhhh :D,all applied
Skylish
quick check b4 Arrival re-bubble, NO KDS

[ELPIS]

> 02:26:539 (152,153) - ctrl+G (d k)to have a consistant k flow at 02:25:938 - / 02:26:195 - / 02:26:452 - and 02:26:624 - / 02:26:881 - / 02:27:138 - ? 3/2 kat pattern is expected.

> 02:32:452 - another consistent k

> 02:55:767 - consider change it to k for a variated pattern? 02:55:424 (433,434,435,436) - dd dd seems a bit bored and does not show the presence of melody pitch at 02:55:767 - , while you did it well at 02:54:739 (429,430,431,432) - .

> 03:25:596 - the strucutre here should be similar to 03:20:110 - . A stream is forseen, considering consistency. Same stream used would be fine imo because you have enough variations for the other triplets.

> 04:04:424 - how about shifting it 1/4 forward to 04:04:510 - ? Having a weak beat ending is strange and inconsistent with your mapping style.

> 04:15:396 - ^ same as above, this time is 04:15:482 - . No wonder when I try to testplay te stream, I feel the breaking point is strange.

> 04:09:739 (222,223) - ctrl+G to promote a constant k for drum kick in this first half of this Kiai section.

> 04:10:167 - another constant k for every '5-plet' at 04:10:167 - / 04:10:682 - / 04:11:196 -

> 04:21:139 - ^ same advice

> 04:45:824 - the strong base drum here has a lower dynamic comparing with the previous 85% section. Consider to put a 70% right here?

> 04:45:910 - similar case as above, it sounds too strong and the contrast of volume between 04:45:910 - and 04:51:396 - are unnecessarily huge. Try using 60% at 04:45:910 - .

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Topic Starter
iloveyou4ever

Skylish wrote:

quick check b4 Arrival re-bubble, NO KDS

[ELPIS]

> 02:26:539 (152,153) - ctrl+G (d k)to have a consistant k flow at 02:25:938 - / 02:26:195 - / 02:26:452 - and 02:26:624 - / 02:26:881 - / 02:27:138 - ? 3/2 kat pattern is expected.
want to express the pitch here rather than following consistency
> 02:32:452 - another consistent k
^same as above,k doesn't fit the music well
> 02:55:767 - consider change it to k for a variated pattern? 02:55:424 (433,434,435,436) - dd dd seems a bit bored and does not show the presence of melody pitch at 02:55:767 - , while you did it well at 02:54:739 (429,430,431,432) - .
I map by drum for 02:54:739 (429,430,431,432,433,434,435,436,437,438) - these notes,which I think dd dk don't suit the drum sound at all
> 03:25:596 - the strucutre here should be similar to 03:20:110 - . A stream is forseen, considering consistency. Same stream used would be fine imo because you have enough variation尸 for the other triplets.
it'd be repetitive :<
> 04:04:424 - how about shifting it 1/4 forward to 04:04:510 - ? Having a weak beat ending is strange and inconsistent with your mapping style.
emm...at the beginning I thought following the sound effect would be better,but yes I should follow the mapping style more consistently,changed :D
> 04:15:396 - ^ same as above, this time is 04:15:482 - . No wonder when I try to testplay te stream, I feel the breaking point is strange.
ok
> 04:09:739 (222,223) - ctrl+G to promote a constant k for drum kick in this first half of this Kiai section.
ctrl+G doesn't fit the music pitch at all,and it need not to be constant for all the time lul
> 04:10:167 - another constant k for every '5-plet' at 04:10:167 - / 04:10:682 - / 04:11:196 -
want to develop the melody by putting more k at the high pitch places
> 04:21:139 - ^ same advice
same as above
> 04:45:824 - the strong base drum here has a lower dynamic comparing with the previous 85% section. Consider to put a 70% right here?

> 04:45:910 - similar case as above, it sounds too strong and the contrast of volume between 04:45:910 - and 04:51:396 - are unnecessarily huge. Try using 60% at 04:45:910 - .
accepted the above two
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Thanks for modding again :)
Arrival
Okay timing seems fine and the diff looks ready. Good luck !

#1
Surono
donkatkatdonkatkatdon(repeating) intensifies
really love the drum emphasis of this map and someth-
nvm, i lazy to continue say it ww
#2
Topic Starter
iloveyou4ever

Arrival wrote:

Okay timing seems fine and the diff looks ready. Good luck !

#1

Surono wrote:

donkatkatdonkatkatdon(repeating) intensifies
really love the drum emphasis of this map and someth-
nvm, i lazy to continue say it ww
#2
Thanks both of you >_<
Skylish
I swear to God, 1 ms bug is a huge pain for mapper and modder.

Bubble reset, #1

Re-check before qualification bubble:

> 01:42:051 - unused green timing point, you may remove it.

> 02:22:938 - you may change it to k to fit more 'kkd' tendency in 1/3 or 1/4 beats at 02:21:824 - .

> 03:36:224 - how about kkddk in 1/4 to fill up those gaps? I feel like these 1/1 notes have a too unexpectingly low density in this section.

> 03:45:482 - / 03:56:453 - Kat? They are in NC beats and state a new start (Mapper thought it is not worthy to use Finishers here and there)

> 03:59:453 - maybe adding a kat here can emphasize the melody which you mapped with kat at 03:59:196 - / 03:59:539 -

IRC check with ily4
2017-05-13 23:24 iloveyou4ever: hi free?
2017-05-13 23:24 iloveyou4ever: spirit
2017-05-13 23:28 Skylish: hi back
2017-05-13 23:29 Skylish: check this first: https://puu.sh/vOAuC/b00e8752eb.txt
2017-05-13 23:30 iloveyou4ever: pro...
2017-05-13 23:30 Skylish: you reply them one by one here
2017-05-13 23:31 iloveyou4ever: 01:42:051- the volume is going down
2017-05-13 23:31 iloveyou4ever: 75->60->45
2017-05-13 23:32 Skylish: no note there
2017-05-13 23:32 Skylish: not in effect, hence, delete it
2017-05-13 23:32 iloveyou4ever: I have 1ms error shit
2017-05-13 23:32 Skylish: wt?
2017-05-13 23:33 iloveyou4ever: oh I know what you mean,deleted
2017-05-13 23:34 iloveyou4ever: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8077183
2017-05-13 23:34 iloveyou4ever: notes are repeated...
2017-05-13 23:35 Skylish: repeated?
2017-05-13 23:35 Skylish: I can't see it wo
2017-05-13 23:35 Skylish: 02:22:938 -
2017-05-13 23:35 iloveyou4ever: 814 and 815
2017-05-13 23:35 Skylish: https://puu.sh/vOLkr/194e4100c7.jpg
2017-05-13 23:36 iloveyou4ever: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8077196
2017-05-13 23:36 iloveyou4ever: my timing panel is :938
2017-05-13 23:36 iloveyou4ever: but the note is placed on :939
2017-05-13 23:36 iloveyou4ever: you can check the notepad
2017-05-13 23:36 Skylish: 我之前叫你fix timing 果時
2017-05-13 23:36 Skylish: 就係叫你fix 埋1ms shit
2017-05-13 23:36 Skylish: damn
2017-05-13 23:36 Skylish: Bubbles 要reset
2017-05-13 23:37 iloveyou4ever: :(
2017-05-13 23:37 Skylish: 唉真係弱智,report ppy
2017-05-13 23:37 Skylish: nvm, reply my mod sin
2017-05-13 23:38 iloveyou4ever: 02:22:938 applied anyways
2017-05-13 23:39 Skylish: okay
2017-05-13 23:39 iloveyou4ever: resnapped左1/12
2017-05-13 23:39 iloveyou4ever: all notes are placed on time now
2017-05-13 23:39 Skylish: re-snap 1/12 唔會炒咩? 中間堆紅線冇事?
2017-05-13 23:41 Skylish: 你逐粒shift比較實際,雖然好花時間
2017-05-13 23:42 iloveyou4ever: ok啦
2017-05-13 23:42 Skylish: wow pro
2017-05-13 23:42 iloveyou4ever: 我陣間puush比你
2017-05-13 23:42 Skylish: good
2017-05-13 23:42 Skylish: continue to reply
2017-05-13 23:43 iloveyou4ever: 03:36:224- no music...
2017-05-13 23:44 Skylish: 03:36:224 - 有個好低音sfx
2017-05-13 23:45 Skylish: 慢慢高音左上去
2017-05-13 23:45 Skylish: 其實主要係density issue
2017-05-13 23:45 Skylish: 突然1/1 好怪
2017-05-13 23:46 iloveyou4ever: emm...
2017-05-13 23:48 iloveyou4ever: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8077317
2017-05-13 23:48 iloveyou4ever: like this?
2017-05-13 23:48 iloveyou4ever: 03:45:482 - 轉K I think not suitable...
2017-05-13 23:49 iloveyou4ever: no obvious strong sound fx
2017-05-13 23:50 Skylish: 03:36:224 (656) -
2017-05-13 23:50 Skylish: 03:36:224 (656) -
2017-05-13 23:50 Skylish: 03:36:224 (656) -
2017-05-13 23:50 Skylish: ...
2017-05-13 23:50 Skylish: https://puu.sh/vOLYS/bfa2e049a9.jpg
2017-05-13 23:50 iloveyou4ever: 咪kkddk lo...
2017-05-13 23:50 Skylish: kkddk in 1/4 lmao
2017-05-13 23:50 iloveyou4ever: wtf
2017-05-13 23:50 Skylish: LMAO
2017-05-13 23:51 iloveyou4ever: wtf
2017-05-13 23:51 iloveyou4ever: is that even suitable
2017-05-13 23:51 Skylish: yes
2017-05-13 23:51 iloveyou4ever: ghost notes...
2017-05-13 23:52 Skylish: 03:36:224 - there's a very low pitch sfx, and the main issue is density problem again
2017-05-13 23:52 Skylish: your previous 1/1 style is unexpected
2017-05-13 23:52 Skylish: comparing with 03:30:910 -
2017-05-13 23:52 Skylish: 03:30:910 (613,614,615,616,617) - kkddk
2017-05-13 23:52 Skylish: 03:36:224 (656,657,658,659,660) - kkddk as well
2017-05-13 23:53 iloveyou4ever: emm ok valid reason
2017-05-13 23:53 iloveyou4ever: changed :D
2017-05-13 23:53 iloveyou4ever: 03:59:453 - and added note here too
2017-05-13 23:53 Skylish: don/kat ^ ?
2017-05-13 23:53 iloveyou4ever: k
2017-05-13 23:54 Skylish: good
2017-05-13 23:54 iloveyou4ever: 03:59:539 - pitch here is high
2017-05-13 23:54 Skylish: yes I noticed that
2017-05-13 23:54 iloveyou4ever: want to bring up it
2017-05-13 23:54 Skylish: just now
2017-05-13 23:54 Skylish: do you have anything want to change despite 1 ms shit ?
2017-05-13 23:54 iloveyou4ever: 01:59:538 -
2017-05-13 23:54 iloveyou4ever: idk is it suitable
2017-05-13 23:55 Skylish: I think it suits very well
2017-05-13 23:55 Skylish: kkk represent the instrumental part nicely
2017-05-13 23:56 iloveyou4ever: ok :D
2017-05-13 23:56 iloveyou4ever: do you have any part to suggest as well>
2017-05-13 23:56 iloveyou4ever: ?
2017-05-13 23:56 Skylish: any other problems/ issues you wanna raised out?
2017-05-13 23:56 Skylish: umm, lemme think...
2017-05-13 23:56 iloveyou4ever: to me it's good...
2017-05-13 23:57 Skylish: 我諗緊果時你fix 著 1ms bug 先
2017-05-13 23:59 iloveyou4ever: https://puu.sh/vOMox.osz
2017-05-13 23:59 iloveyou4ever: fixed
2017-05-13 23:59 Skylish: No. of objects= 2040?
2017-05-14 00:00 iloveyou4ever: yes
2017-05-14 00:00 Skylish: okay lemme check
2017-05-14 00:02 Skylish: 01:42:051 -
2017-05-14 00:02 Skylish: remove green timing point?
2017-05-14 00:03 iloveyou4ever: oops idk why I haven't removed it...
2017-05-14 00:03 Skylish: lol maybe you forgot to press 'OK'
2017-05-14 00:05 Skylish: 02:55:939 -
2017-05-14 00:05 iloveyou4ever: yes
2017-05-14 00:05 Skylish: I am not sure if it is redundant for : https://puu.sh/vOMHn/a7604bcff5.png
2017-05-14 00:06 iloveyou4ever: what you mean by redundant?
2017-05-14 00:07 Skylish: red and green timing points both have Kiai
2017-05-14 00:07 Skylish: I am not sure if it's okay or not
2017-05-14 00:07 Skylish: but red= no kiai, green= Kiai --> 100% no problem
2017-05-14 00:08 Skylish: 02:55:938 (437) - and this fucking note is unsnapped to 02:55:939 -
2017-05-14 00:08 Skylish: you have to scroll your mouse wheel after 02:55:939 - , then go back to 02:55:939 -
2017-05-14 00:08 Skylish: so on9
2017-05-14 00:09 iloveyou4ever: that means I disable kiai time for red line,and keep it for green line?
2017-05-14 00:09 iloveyou4ever: resnapped :D
2017-05-14 00:09 Skylish: yes
2017-05-14 00:09 Skylish: I think that's 100% fine
2017-05-14 00:09 iloveyou4ever: 100% fine means the map>
2017-05-14 00:10 iloveyou4ever: ?
2017-05-14 00:10 Skylish: arh, no 100% fine for disable Kiai for Red, able Kiai for Green
2017-05-14 00:10 Skylish: I am still checking
2017-05-14 00:10 Skylish: I dont want to pop and bubble repeatedly
2017-05-14 00:10 iloveyou4ever: oh ok
2017-05-14 00:10 Skylish: that's annoying for you and BNs
2017-05-14 00:10 Skylish: blame ppy please
2017-05-14 00:11 iloveyou4ever: I think after I resnapped it's fine?
2017-05-14 00:11 Skylish: That part is fine
2017-05-14 00:12 Skylish: I am checking 03:18:567 (526) - onwards
2017-05-14 00:12 Skylish: be patient
2017-05-14 00:14 Skylish: The whole map should be fine now, please update it
2017-05-14 00:14 Skylish: I will bubble it after your updates
2017-05-14 00:15 iloveyou4ever: ok update now
2017-05-14 00:15 iloveyou4ever: can't you just directly fire it after 2 hrs...?
2017-05-14 00:15 iloveyou4ever: after bubble pop
2017-05-14 00:15 Skylish: no
2017-05-14 00:15 Skylish: There's unsnapped objects
2017-05-14 00:15 Skylish: These shits are counted as unrankable issues
2017-05-14 00:16 iloveyou4ever: updated anyways
2017-05-14 00:16 Skylish: Unrankalbe issues mean all bubbles have to be reset
2017-05-14 00:16 Skylish: i.e. my bubble is bubble #1
2017-05-14 00:16 Skylish: you have to wait again
2017-05-14 00:16 Skylish: 點都好過qua 完之後DQ
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